By the way guys, I know it sucks that a lot of the things I use are old school and not available anymore like the Knight & Hale bag I use, but there are bags on the market that make similar sounds or you can make a rattle bag from some lightweight mesh material and purchasing a long hardwood 1" dowel and cutting 5 or 6 - 10 inch lengths out of it. Make sure to cut 2 or 3 of them not quite in half (lengthwise) so that they will make a bit more noise when rolled in the bag. Also make sure the bag is somewhat loose so if you do need a higher volume you can separate the stick in the bag and clash them together. Very easy to make a rattle bag if you have a mom, wife or girlfriend that sews. John
I have no issue with this at all. I often make or modify my gear to meet my needs. More folks need to be confident to try making their gear fit them. You are sharing concepts not gear reviews. Way more valuable.
@@Hunter30394 Thanks Richard, once I have something that works I keep it so I don't keep up on the newer brands or models. My thought is that people like yourself will visually see or hear (calls coming out soon) what I'm talking about and try to find something that works similarly. John
I use a monster bucks rattle box it caught my attention about 20 years ago after I heard my first real buck fight. I went through everything on the market to find just the right sound. If you wear gloves its exactly like the real thing
Just to be able to have the knowledge you have sir is priceless. No worries we can't expect you to do it all for us we do have to create our own swag 🤣 Btw way thanks for making me a better hunter.
You all probably dont give a damn but does any of you know of a method to log back into an Instagram account?? I somehow forgot the password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me.
Had extremely good luck rattling during early season. Done it since the late 70's. I do more sparring than hard rattling though during early season. John
This man talks I’m listening! Third season of hunting deer in Michigan, I have not shot and recovered a buck yet. Second season I rattled hard I know that a mistake now!
Rattled in Montana and Michigan. Small antlers in Michigan large in Montana. Works way better in Montana. Fewer deer. Larger deer. Always started very lightly. Tickling. John is right on. Great advice.
I remember looking up to the TV guys, hunting 12 feet high, wearing a baseball cap, rattling in & missing giant bucks, but the buck comes back and gives them another shot. If you can replicate killing mature bucks in pressured states, every season or every third season, you already know more than 99.9%, making you the .001% , these video's are great, please keep them coming.
Mr. Eberhart, I read your book on hunting pressured whitetails years ago and it changed the way I hunt. That same year - 2015 - I took my first book buck out of a saddle in an overlooked spot on top of a scrape.
Hunting early season last year adjacent to bedding. Waited til 40 min. before legal light and tickled the antlers I'd cut up for my bag. Two sequences. Light sparring. 35 min. later two deer got up out of the bedding. 2 yo 8 pt came right to the base of the tree I was in. Larger 3 yo buck skirted the area in a low gut where he could collect wind. Can't wait to try that tactic again at that location this October, but adjust my position so I can shoot down into that gut leading out of bedding.
I’ve only killed one buck that I rattled in. I’ve rattled in many. Usually not deer I wanted to shoot. But after several years of trial and error John is spot on..... and I learned the same way he mentioned . Getting to watch young bucks spar. It works.
I consider myself a beginner but did some bow hunting in my teens and actually had alt of success rattling here in Western PA but it seems like it's always little scrub bucks and they would never commit and come into bow range. They would stop 40 or 50 yards away and turn around and go back the direction they came from. I wouldn't have shot any of those scrubs anyways, but I did rattle in a really nice one before, probably around 130 inches and he came charging in and stopped on a dime at like 40 yards , Might have smelt me. Then he looked right up at me and tried to do a loop around me and kept stopping and looking up at me and then finally he just turned and walked away the same way he came in. But that is one heck of a rush when they come charging in like that, But anyway I been out of the game sense my teens and am just getting back into it this year at 32 and it's guys like u and the hunting public and Dan infalt that got my fire going again,so thank u for that.
I have that same old rattle bag somewhere in a tote. Guess I need to dig out this year. I usually don’t like anything that alerts other people to my locations.
Can’t wait to try your tactics in the woods of eastern PA on some nice traveling corridors in between AG and housing developments. Great content and always looking forward to seeing what’s new to me and put it to use in the hunting world! I had a very interesting question about color of antlers that my local taxidermist brought up to me and how daylight affects the color, just wondering if that’s something you knew anything about and could share some information on?
Thanks and yes I do know something about the color of antlers and there are 3 things that affect their color. 1. How much time they spend moving or bedded during daylight with or without shade from overhanging tree or brush canopy. Bucks out west tend to be in more open areas because they don't have swamps and big timber so it's very common for the sun to bleach out their antlers to a more whitish color. Bucks that bed under a canopy of any kind, maintain their antler color. It's always been interesting to me that almost every buck I've seen that came from the Upper Peninsula where there are miles and miles of cedar swamps and very heavy tree canopy, had very dark mahogony colored antlers. Later in the season (December on) once all the foliage is down and their antlers get more direct sunlight, their antlers will lighten up. Ever notice how sheds found in open areas are always white, the sun bleaches them out. 2. What types of trees (bark color) bucks rub on has a lot to do with their color. Bucks that primarily rub on light bark colored trees like poplars, beech, ash, and certain types of conifers will typically have lighter colored antlers whereas bucks that rub on dark barked trees will have darker antlers. 3. This one is just a guess, but I think genetics has something to do with their initial color once rubbed out no matter the trees they rubbed out on. But they will still bleach out if in direct sunlight a lot. John
It is a great feeling, and when I say that it puts more emphasis on the fact that the tactic or whatever, worked. If I said I did something and it brought in a 4 point that I took, it wouldn't mean as much to a hunter trying to kill a mature buck. John
One more time. How many of your book bucks did you rattle and they way they come in is this why you use fingers instead of release. Thank you for being maybe the only real one left. Much respect.
Thanks and I've rattled in maybe 100 or so bucks in my lifetime and of course most were 1 1/2 and 2 1/2 and in Michigan some were 3 1/2 but they still weren't big enough due to inferior antler growth here (I shot a 5 1/2 year old with a 105 inch rack and have shot many 3 1/2 year olds in my past that never made 100 inches. Of my bucks that make book, I can think of 7 and 4 of them were from cold sparring or rattling. I mentioned 3 during the early season that I sparred in because I heard them or saw them. John
I have a couple questions Would you ever rattle in Michigan early season blindly in the morning if you are in bedding? Secondly do bucks in Michigan come down wind of a rattle sequence?
Thanks and great questions. Yes I would make sparring sequences blind in a bedding area during early season and rut phases and no they do not come in from downwind, they come in directly from wherever they are. John
So say you know a buck is bedding on a island. The island is maybe 50 yards by 40 yards. You hunt on the island waiting for his return or hunt where you bielieve he crosses at to main land below a beaver dam?
I live in Ohio, and we own property in Coshocton county...and I have seen some VERY aggressive, hard core buck fights, with BIG, mature bucks....and NONE of them sounded like the idiots on video who non stop slam and crack the antlers together....it is mostly pushing, and trying to roll the other buck on his side or back....when they are not pushing each other around...it cracks me up seeing some of these guys rattle on video....NO buck fight sounds like what these guys are doing. I agree with you, but even when there ARE several large, mature bucks...they don’t sound anything like the idiots who go full ham on their rattling horns....EVER.
"Hunting in a zoo"..... hahahaha, I've literally said the exact same thing...it's not even enjoyable watching these TV guys hunt their farmed deer....it's like shooting cows
By the way guys, I know it sucks that a lot of the things I use are old school and not available anymore like the Knight & Hale bag I use, but there are bags on the market that make similar sounds or you can make a rattle bag from some lightweight mesh material and purchasing a long hardwood 1" dowel and cutting 5 or 6 - 10 inch lengths out of it. Make sure to cut 2 or 3 of them not quite in half (lengthwise) so that they will make a bit more noise when rolled in the bag. Also make sure the bag is somewhat loose so if you do need a higher volume you can separate the stick in the bag and clash them together. Very easy to make a rattle bag if you have a mom, wife or girlfriend that sews. John
I have no issue with this at all. I often make or modify my gear to meet my needs. More folks need to be confident to try making their gear fit them. You are sharing concepts not gear reviews. Way more valuable.
@@Hunter30394 Thanks Richard, once I have something that works I keep it so I don't keep up on the newer brands or models. My thought is that people like yourself will visually see or hear (calls coming out soon) what I'm talking about and try to find something that works similarly. John
I use a monster bucks rattle box it caught my attention about 20 years ago after I heard my first real buck fight. I went through everything on the market to find just the right sound. If you wear gloves its exactly like the real thing
Just to be able to have the knowledge you have sir is priceless. No worries we can't expect you to do it all for us we do have to create our own swag 🤣 Btw way thanks for making me a better hunter.
You all probably dont give a damn but does any of you know of a method to log back into an Instagram account??
I somehow forgot the password. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer me.
You are the first person I've ever met that agreed with me on early season rattling
Had extremely good luck rattling during early season. Done it since the late 70's. I do more sparring than hard rattling though during early season. John
This man talks I’m listening! Third season of hunting deer in Michigan, I have not shot and recovered a buck yet. Second season I rattled hard I know that a mistake now!
Rattled in Montana and Michigan. Small antlers in Michigan large in Montana. Works way better in Montana. Fewer deer. Larger deer. Always started very lightly. Tickling. John is right on. Great advice.
I remember looking up to the TV guys, hunting 12 feet high, wearing a baseball cap, rattling in & missing giant bucks, but the buck comes back and gives them another shot. If you can replicate killing mature bucks in pressured states, every season or every third season, you already know more than 99.9%, making you the .001% , these video's are great, please keep them coming.
That is one thing for sure, ANYTHING that works in a pressured area will work anywhere, the adverse is definitely not true. John
Mr. Eberhart,
I read your book on hunting pressured whitetails years ago and it changed the way I hunt. That same year - 2015 - I took my first book buck out of a saddle in an overlooked spot on top of a scrape.
Thanks Steve
Hunting early season last year adjacent to bedding. Waited til 40 min. before legal light and tickled the antlers I'd cut up for my bag. Two sequences. Light sparring. 35 min. later two deer got up out of the bedding. 2 yo 8 pt came right to the base of the tree I was in. Larger 3 yo buck skirted the area in a low gut where he could collect wind. Can't wait to try that tactic again at that location this October, but adjust my position so I can shoot down into that gut leading out of bedding.
I’ve only killed one buck that I rattled in. I’ve rattled in many. Usually not deer I wanted to shoot. But after several years of trial and error John is spot on..... and I learned the same way he mentioned . Getting to watch young bucks spar. It works.
Love this. Actual applicable hunting advice. Thanks for the free info. Excited to see future content 👍🏻
Thank you for this channel can't get enough my wife was in the kitchen and said your watching that eberhart fella aren't ya lol
I sew myself John, please don't hold it against me, LoL, good vid !!!
I'm in southeast Missouri and never had a lot of luck with rattling. But I have had a lot of success with a grunt call.
I consider myself a beginner but did some bow hunting in my teens and actually had alt of success rattling here in Western PA but it seems like it's always little scrub bucks and they would never commit and come into bow range. They would stop 40 or 50 yards away and turn around and go back the direction they came from. I wouldn't have shot any of those scrubs anyways, but I did rattle in a really nice one before, probably around 130 inches and he came charging in and stopped on a dime at like 40 yards , Might have smelt me. Then he looked right up at me and tried to do a loop around me and kept stopping and looking up at me and then finally he just turned and walked away the same way he came in. But that is one heck of a rush when they come charging in like that, But anyway I been out of the game sense my teens and am just getting back into it this year at 32 and it's guys like u and the hunting public and Dan infalt that got my fire going again,so thank u for that.
Great information. looking forward to implementing some of these tips this season. Thanks John!
I always look froward to your videos John. Keep them coming!
Jacob McReynolds
As soon as i see a video up on here I make sure to watch asap and maybe take notes literally
I have that same old rattle bag somewhere in a tote. Guess I need to dig out this year. I usually don’t like anything that alerts other people to my locations.
Can’t wait to try your tactics in the woods of eastern PA on some nice traveling corridors in between AG and housing developments. Great content and always looking forward to seeing what’s new to me and put it to use in the hunting world! I had a very interesting question about color of antlers that my local taxidermist brought up to me and how daylight affects the color, just wondering if that’s something you knew anything about and could share some information on?
Thanks and yes I do know something about the color of antlers and there are 3 things that affect their color. 1. How much time they spend moving or bedded during daylight with or without shade from overhanging tree or brush canopy. Bucks out west tend to be in more open areas because they don't have swamps and big timber so it's very common for the sun to bleach out their antlers to a more whitish color. Bucks that bed under a canopy of any kind, maintain their antler color. It's always been interesting to me that almost every buck I've seen that came from the Upper Peninsula where there are miles and miles of cedar swamps and very heavy tree canopy, had very dark mahogony colored antlers. Later in the season (December on) once all the foliage is down and their antlers get more direct sunlight, their antlers will lighten up. Ever notice how sheds found in open areas are always white, the sun bleaches them out. 2. What types of trees (bark color) bucks rub on has a lot to do with their color. Bucks that primarily rub on light bark colored trees like poplars, beech, ash, and certain types of conifers will typically have lighter colored antlers whereas bucks that rub on dark barked trees will have darker antlers. 3. This one is just a guess, but I think genetics has something to do with their initial color once rubbed out no matter the trees they rubbed out on. But they will still bleach out if in direct sunlight a lot. John
That made book man must be a great feeling saying that god bless the man
It is a great feeling, and when I say that it puts more emphasis on the fact that the tactic or whatever, worked. If I said I did something and it brought in a 4 point that I took, it wouldn't mean as much to a hunter trying to kill a mature buck. John
Eberhart Outdoors John you ever hunt New York ?
Man u expliain it so easy to follow and understand, thx
Good information John, thanks for the info!
Thank you. Very useful! Just took one stick out of my bag.
Cool, bags work great and it blows ma e away at how so many companies cram sticks in their bags so you can barely move them. John
One more time. How many of your book bucks did you rattle and they way they come in is this why you use fingers instead of release. Thank you for being maybe the only real one left. Much respect.
Thanks and I've rattled in maybe 100 or so bucks in my lifetime and of course most were 1 1/2 and 2 1/2 and in Michigan some were 3 1/2 but they still weren't big enough due to inferior antler growth here (I shot a 5 1/2 year old with a 105 inch rack and have shot many 3 1/2 year olds in my past that never made 100 inches. Of my bucks that make book, I can think of 7 and 4 of them were from cold sparring or rattling. I mentioned 3 during the early season that I sparred in because I heard them or saw them. John
Awesome rattling videos
John, what kind of laundry detergent and shampoo/deodorant/spray do you recommend me buying??? Thanks for your tips. Love the videos.
Thank you for the tips!!
Hey John, what is your opinion on the Youth gun hunt that was this past weekend in Michigan?
Awkward moment you realize you do everything he says not to do lol. I'll try this oct 1. Thanks!
Its only because the TV guys told us to for so long
Great comment lol
JB's dropping dimes again boys.
Thanks for the info John
I have a couple questions
Would you ever rattle in Michigan early season blindly in the morning if you are in bedding?
Secondly do bucks in Michigan come down wind of a rattle sequence?
Thanks and great questions. Yes I would make sparring sequences blind in a bedding area during early season and rut phases and no they do not come in from downwind, they come in directly from wherever they are. John
Eberhart Outdoors thanks John great getting advice and tactics from the buck slayer himself hope you have a season to remember.
John do u ever rattle over decoys? And if so are u doing it more pre rut then rut
So say you know a buck is bedding on a island. The island is maybe 50 yards by 40 yards. You hunt on the island waiting for his return or hunt where you bielieve he crosses at to main land below a beaver dam?
Zoo love it
Well it's true.
Drink every time he says Michigan
I live in Ohio, and we own property in Coshocton county...and I have seen some VERY aggressive, hard core buck fights, with BIG, mature bucks....and NONE of them sounded like the idiots on video who non stop slam and crack the antlers together....it is mostly pushing, and trying to roll the other buck on his side or back....when they are not pushing each other around...it cracks me up seeing some of these guys rattle on video....NO buck fight sounds like what these guys are doing. I agree with you, but even when there ARE several large, mature bucks...they don’t sound anything like the idiots who go full ham on their rattling horns....EVER.
Just tickle them lol
Yo
To to you too. John
"Hunting in a zoo"..... hahahaha, I've literally said the exact same thing...it's not even enjoyable watching these TV guys hunt their farmed deer....it's like shooting cows