Volkswagen Engine Mount Replacement - New Vs Old Bad Mount Symptoms - Say Goodbye to Vibrations
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Few Parts Numbers (As Per VW ETKA, procured by VIN on 12th October 2020 :-
1. 1.5 TDI Engine Codes (CLNA, CWXA, CWXB, CWXC)
Engine Mounting :- 6RF 199 262 R
Transmission Side :- 6RF 199 555 J
Dog-Bone :- 6RF 199 851 C
Rear Axle Frame Inserts :- 6R0 501 541 A
2. 1.2 TSI (CBZB) - GT TSI
Transmission Side :- 6RF 199 555 J
Engine Side :- 6RF 199 262 Q (CBZB, CLPA, CLSA)
Dog-Bone :- 6RF 199 851 C
So guys thanks to my friend Sushant Walki's smart diagnosis, I ended up changing all 5 engine mounts in my car and would like to share my entire experience and findings about the engine mounts present in our cars!
Check out these videos for Polo Mount Replacement :-
1. • TRANSMISSION MOUNT REP... : Transmission Mount
2. • VOLKSWAGEN DOG BONE EN... : Dog Bone Mount Replacement
The process and experience is similar in Polo and Vento and the Rapid but a little easier on the wallet since those are meant to be VAG Mass Market cars! Big thanks to the folks at The Mechanix for the help , love and support!
Queries are welcome!
Do check out Sushant and Anirudh's garage on Instagram : themechanixautomotive
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A video simple meant to spread awareness about the nature and role of engine mounts in your car. Not all cars have the same type or same style of engine mounts. Polo and Vento do not have front subframe mounts. They only have an Engine Side, Transmission Side and a Dogbone Mount. Part numbers of a few engine codes are given in the description. For more help about parts, please leave a comment I'll try and get back to you!
What was the labour time for all 3?
@@JH-sc7cs 2 hours or so, including time taken to go to a pressing shop and have the subframe bushing pressed
@@SujoyShivde sweet thanks for the reply. 2 hours is pretty damn quick with subframe removal also
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Actually, the Vento Petrol and Diesel have different mount types too, as such it differs by engine type as well.
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Thanks for this video.
I am using a 17 yrs old skoda Octavia. And I just ordered for the engine mounts .
I observed vibrations followed by inspection of the mounts .
Last year , .my car did pull to one side under heavy acceleration , it's as a result of worn out suspension arm bushing., Which I changed immediately. Thanks for this lovely presentation
Glad you found it useful. It should make your car feel a lot like it was when new.
I had my VW Vento Petrol(2013) mount replaced yesterday, and the results are quite amazing, the car's power and pickup seem to have rejuvenated and vibrations are virtually disappeared.
Most underrated channel
Very informative. Thank you for posting. Even in my car the mounts are on the verge of damage.
Glad you liked it
Sometimes depends on the engine or car but when you put new engine mounts maybe you can feel a bit more vibrations at idle cause they are new and need some period time for "adapt", that happens to me in a seat ibiza 1.9 tdi 90cv from 1999 when changed all 3 engine mounts and now in a golf 4 tdi 2002 with only the dogbone changed (this one doesnt support the weight of the engine but it prevents the engine the back and fort motion) in the golf you can do hard accelerations and you dont feel any vibration now, before the car do some "jumps" at certain speeds when accelerating hard
I totally recommend original engine mounts or at least good brands like lemforder or febi bilstein, dont buy cheap things cause maybe they can break easily or last less time, have more vibrations etc
Yes good advice.
100th viewer🤘🏼😎very nice video..just love how technical you are about the car! Keep up the good work!☺️😇
Glad you liked it!
I had this issue in my ameo. Typical symptom was sound from engine bay when going over uneven roads especially during when the engine is cold. The sound used to go away when the engine heats up. I had to go to atleast two vw service stations for the correct diagnosis.
Thanks a lot for sharing sir. Glad your issue was finally resolved!
@vinodreddi I'm also facing a similar issue with 1.2 mpi polo clocked 70k, during cold start a lot of vibration and clattering from the engine bay. When the engine heats up the sound is minimal. Have you changed engine mounts, how much does it cost ?
🔥🔥 And congrats on 4k subs 😂
Now I have come to know that my car had an engine mount issue. Thanks for the video
Glad you found it useful
nice video! a lower control arm faulty bush is what i think is giving me rattling sounds on bad road patches, your friend's garage seems like a good one... can you share details? im from mumbai too and its tough to find good garages who know what theyre doing (2011 VW Polo TDI 1.2)
You can lookup The Mechanix Automotive, Baner. But I'm sure there are quite a few FNGs in Mumbai who can do a great job as well
Congrats for 4k! Keep making amazing videos😇
Thanks buddy! You are one of the reasons I started on this quest of learning and taking care of my VW! You were the catalyst in this journey! Thanks!
Very in depth insight. Thank you for this video
Wo just two days ago changed my Engine mount on My Vw Jetta TDI aslo changed my Dsg Transmission oil & coolant
That's nice, where did you get the job done? And which coolant did you use?
@@SujoyShivde G13 Vw specified
work done by local mechanic who a friend of mine
Great video bro ❤
Costs please?
Great video thankyou!!!⚡
Very nice and helpful video. Thank you !
Thank you sir
I’m getting my mount replaced today! I’ve been feeling a vibration throughout my steering wheel when going over 80 mph, I hope this’ll help it out
That could also be something due to bad wheel balancing, if it only vibrates harder after 80 mph.
@@SujoyShivde I thought that as well, going to get the alignment off better help, it’s most likely that, there wasn’t so much of a difference, thank you!!
One observation. I saw the mechanic using grease while mounting the rubber suspension component. How he uses silicone based lubes
I think you are referring to the silicone oil/grease being used during the lower arm bushing installation. I believe this is a standard practice in the pressing shop to allow smooth fitment of the bushing and subframe mounts. No other lubes were used during the installation of the 3 main engine mounts, as the service repair manual doesn't prescribe any.
Thnx bro for sharing your experience. gr from Holland
what a great video Sujoy. I think this is the issue my Golf 6 1.2 TSI has at the moment (with 157k kms in total). You can hear a "clunk" noise after shifting from 1st to 2nd gear. There's also the vibration at idle as you mentioned. And some rattle sound sometimes (but rarely) when shifting from 3rd to 4th after 2.5 or 3k RPM)... Sounds like I need to get them replaced right? the question is which one should be done first? or do them all at once?
For a car that mileage, there's a chance all of them have gotten old and damaged. Usually, engine mounts are changed in pairs. So I'd get all 5 of them replaced at once. It will definitely make your car feel quite new. I was super impressed when I got mine changed. The clunk might get reduced, unless it's a gearbox specific issue. This will definitely reduce the vibrations on the dash
makes sense! many thanks for your reply ;) do you know the gearbox issue? is it a typical thing? critical or can be used like this (I haven't repair anything since I own it, 10 months already...)?@@SujoyShivde
It's quite typical for higher mileage DSG gearboxes to clunk. I'd suggest driving it. One day it'll either just break down with flashing P R N D S or have stuck gears. In those cases, you'll need to inspect the mechatronic and the clutchpacks. Till then, just enjoy it
It's not DSG, it's manual!@@SujoyShivde
Aah! Yes, I'd still have a mechanic atleast inspect the mounts for play especially the dogbone mounts.
My 05 Jetta has some vibration, but it has been kicking or clunking from 1st to 2nd gear and also when I slow down clunking when it gets to that gear also. It doesn’t always do it. I thought it was my transmission but when I looked at the engine and had someone put it in reverse I saw the engine fall back toward the windshield, and fall forward when it was put in park. So I think my dogbone mount is bad. It’s not moving from side to side.
Yes it could very well be a case of bad mountings.
I have volkswagen 2013 passat. Between 75 miles to 80 miles in high way (freeway) my car shacking and bounce. What do you think bad engine mount or shock up isuues
In usa we have miles.
Can be a bunch of things. First guess would be tyres. Try getting them balanced at a tyre shop. Engine mount issues cause a pull, not a bounce. Could also be weaker struts depending on your car mileage, but better to go systematically
Mast Video ... Very Informative as your all videos... ☺️☺️
Glad you liked it
thank you!!! superb video
I get crazy viabration when revving as low as 1300 rpm and when I turn the car on the engine jumps abs makes car jump… I’ve put brand new engine mount not replaced dogbone or transmission mount my question is how much viabration does the lower rubber mounts the dog bone go into cause? As put a decent second hand transmission mount hardly any play and car still driving like straight engine to frame… 1.6 fsi 2004 with 120000 on clock thanks again!
Haha! Good question. The dogbone and transmission mount are equally important, but not sure how much vibration they'd cause. Have the mounts visually inspected. Depending on your car, the subframe mounts might also be on the verge of replacement
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My engine shakes pretty bad on start up. It only does it when I start the car, other than that the car drives fine. Could the mounts be the cause?
Try some heavy acceleration on a straight line and see if the car sways or leans to one side. That is a common symptom. Check for stray vibrations on the dashboard, wheel when the engine is idling.
Do u meen steering wheel vibration?
I do get random vibrations on the steering wheel.
So do you think I should just change the motor mounts?
But like I said before it's mainly on start up the engine shakes pretty bad. Especially if I start up on a hill.
Thanks for the help
Hi did this work please
Very well explained video ❤
Thank you!
i’m changing the drivers side mount (exactly the same as urs) and the metal but spins easily inside the rubber mount. is this normal? there’s a few mounts available and this was the cheapest
No, the rubber should feel firm, and not spin easily. Look at the video for a reference
@@SujoyShivde the rubber is fine and it feels firm like it should but the metal bit spins inside the rubber if enough force is applied
great video bro!
Thank you!
Good video. What was the name of the aftermarket brand you mentioned that supplies VW with their engine mounts please?
ZF-Lemforder are one of the few OE makers of engine mounts, but there could be many more manufacturers supplying to VW
By any chance you know any dealer in hyderabad who supplies skoda parts similar to oem quality. I drive skoda octavia 2014 model and it clocked 180000 km. I am planning to change my engine mounts.
Thank you.
You can visit Man and Machine etc
Great info. Thank you
You're welcome!
Thanks for sharing
Great video
Thank you!
Thank you Sujoy for the great video. This was very informative! 😊How are the Lemforders holding up in your remapped Tdi? Are these stiffer than stock OE mounts? I too have plans to change the mounts in my Mk6 Jetta Tdi manual transmission. Could you help me with parts number for the mounts and the bolts for 2.0 tdi CLCB engine?
They're an exact OE equivalent. Can you connect with Instagram? Will be easier to help you with parts.
Thank you! Unfortunately Im not on instagram. Is there any other way to get in touch?
@@thomast4479 can you drop an email? fluidicjoy@gmail.com we will get in touch
Video quality so high, I had to check if this is powerdrift or something
Really informative.. as always.. ! 😊
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@@SujoyShivde 😂😂
Nice..❤
Good video 👍
My car shakes when i accelerate its like i have to drive it smoothly but when i gets to 100 kilometers per hour its start to shake badly 100 kilometers per hour to 140 kilometers per hour its very bad and when it shake i also feel it on the foot rest near the clutch pedal could it be also engine mountings
If there are vibrations present even while the car is idling with engine on, it could be bad or weak engine mounts. If the issue is specifically happening at speeds of 100+, it could be an instance of wheels not balanced correctly causing a heavy vibration.
i can’t even fix the dogbone lmao where am i supposed to use a press machine
Hi Sujoy,
I’m facing some vibration or rattling sound which comes from my front dashboard. I’ve changed engine and transmission mounting. The 3rd piece i have not replaced yet (underneath). Could that be the problem? Pls advise.
Have you tried isolating the issue, by seeing when you feel if? Under regular driving, or idling, or over some particular road. If you say it's in the dash, it could be something else, like something loose either. Get the car on the lift and have the mounts inspected. Which vehicle is it?
thank u very much
Hi ... I have a skoda fabia 2004
It suffer from a mechanical problem that local mechanics haven't figured out the cause yet
The car shakes back and forth when I lift my foot off the gas pedal (the shake is at its top in first gear and weakenes in higher gears) I replaced two mounts but the shake didn't go away .. any help!
Have you inspected the clutch and flywheel?
@@SujoyShivde no I haven't inspected them yet but I will do ..
After I saw some youtube and examined my old mounts .. I know they have replaced the engine mounts but not the dogbone .. the shakes feel like literally a big bulk rocking back and forth while accelerating and decelerating (when releasing the foot off gas pedal due to engine break) .. could it be the dogbone?
Oh and my car is a manual
Great
Thank you sir
which digital torque wrench adapter do you use? how's your experience with it?
I was using a Digital Torque Wrench I procured of AliExpress. Working fine. Pretty consistent experience. Helps when the clearance is good, but not helpful in tight spaces.
Brother i try to find the company zin film , can you write the name of it ? Am grateful thanks
It's ZF. They have many brands under their group like Lemforder etc.
@@SujoyShivde thanks brother for these knowledge , may you tell me what other company there , because i just bought R36 2009 , and i don’t know what company there are ? Am grateful 🌹
Many brands like Febi, Vika etc make these parts
Could this be the reason why my mk5 r32 shakes when i switch off the engine
Check if it also happens during startup, and if other symptoms are also common.
what about the mount on the other side? did u replace that as well?
Yes, I replaced all 5 mounts on this vehicle.
Could the steering wheel shake in idle mode and when driving if the mount are done? I’ve changed suspension, inner and outer rods for steering rack… and it’s still shakes so now I think engine mount are fine?
Shaking specific to your steering could also be about your steering rack/steering column assembly. The engine mount replacement will reduce overall cabin/dash/vibrations.
any idea what is the "torque specification" of "A bracket" engine mount's M10x60 bolts on the VW polo?
Would be possible to look it up in the service manual.
@@SujoyShivde ok i got it from my friend just now, it was 40Nm + 90 degrees, thanks,
Thanks for sharing
Heyyy does Passat has these subframe mounts 2.0tdi?
Yes most VAG cars have similar set of subframe mounts
From where you purchase this lemforder mounts in Mumbai
I'm in Pune. You can find the ZF distributor from ZF India
@@SujoyShivde thanks 🙏 and what is the price of gearbox mount engine mount and dogbone mount of jetta 2015 model
Hi, can you please send details where I get LEMFORDER suspension parts in Pune?
Yeah sure, please get in touch with me on Instagram or via email @fluidicjoy@gmail.com
Bro how much does the original genuine Volkswagen polo engine mount cost ?
Bro need to check, as some mounts are VIN specific.
I asked in Volkswagen nagpur and they said that it will cost around 15k
For one part- right side
Might be a Hydraulic Mount, and highly VIN specific.
what is total cost it took for repairing brother ?
For this MK5 Jetta about 20k all inclusive.
@@SujoyShivdeThank you so much brother ! planning to change it on my rapid tdi 1.6 !
Whats the price of the mounts?
This set perhaps amounted to 16-17k
Are you in mumbai?
Nope
How about meyle brand?
Decent brand, some parts are good for specific makes. Meyle PD > Meyle HD, but overall, Meyle is not always an OEM quality replacement
How much did it cost
15-20k for all the engine mounts for MK5 Jetta 1.9 TDI
@@SujoyShivde going to get mine done tomorrow. Is this the cost quote from VW showroom?
@vineetnaik2642 no, I bought ZF Mounts. Showroom pricing will be a lot more, but it's worth it you plan to keep the car for a longer time.
Isn’t this considered a transmission mount?
There can be about 3-5 different types of engine mounts on a modern car. Engine Mount, GB Mount, Dogbone Mount, Subframe Bushes X2.
iam from chennai
own a 2010 mk5 2.0 tdi ( crdi) jetta
about 90k kms run. (manual)
may i know the entire cost of the parts
&
(service seperatly)
so that i could prepare .😀🙏
Could you send me an email on fluidicjoy@gmail.com? Will guide you there by confirming your VIN No.
But a generic answer is this :- 10-12k MAX if you go for ZF Lemfoerder Mounts ( 5 Mount Set) and about 6-8k if going for local Taiwanese Mounts. VW mounts are about 19-20k in dealership and labour extra.
@@SujoyShivde thank u very very much.
sorry for the delayed reply
iam taking a screen shot of your reply.
thank u again.
kitny km par change hota h ye part
Not meant to be a consumable item. It is replaced when the car has symptoms or problems are described in the video.
Can u tell me the vw 1.2 petrol 2011 the engine mount part no
If you can share your VIN, will share exact part no
Bataeyaa nai ?
Sir I asked for your VIN no to confirm exact part for your car.
@@SujoyShivde my car fin no isWVWB11606BT038725 AM WAITING
@@preet22able 2011 Polo. Engine Mount :- 6R0 199 167 AA. Gearbox :- 6Q0199555AS. Pendulum 6RF199851
Im having Some vibrations in D (DSG) in Idle and driving (like unbalanced wheels) but i already Bought Brand New wheels. I can feel it in Steering , Seat and body. My Engine shakes when i turn it off.
Sounds like the mounts?? Thank you
Yeah, sounds like a bad mount. But try and single it out to the mounts. Do the steering vibrations occur on braking? If yes, then it could be something to do with the front rotors. Are you experiencing any issues with shifts on your DSG? How much have you driven? DSG vibrations could also be related to the Flywheel, but it's more of a shudder than a vibration. Do check if the car sways on heavy acceleration. That's one of the indicator for bad mounts.
@@SujoyShivde no issues on the brakes. The DSG shifts are good. I run some test to hear if its the flywheel but nothing. I have 62.000km on it.
And i got some clunks when i accelerate and deaccelerate shortly. Only hearable in 1-3 gear.
@@swarly_yt the 1-3 DSG clunks are fairly characteristic to the DSG.
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Hi is it necessary to change gear Mount along with engine mount??
Usually only the defective mounting needs to be changed, but since these age in a similar fashion, when one is changed, the other might be on its way out too