The problem is that our wins against Aus meant no points on the rankings because Aus were so low. Had we received points for those wins, different story
@@matthewcullislive633 it wouldn’t be a different story, Ireland beat you in the World Cup got no points they France Scotland twice wales Italy also got no points.
@@davidwalker2402Ireland held the number one ranking for 60 weeks Sa held it for 55 weeks from 2021 to 2022 and now again for 40 weeks .Plus we have held the world cup from 2019 to 2024 and will actually hold that title till 2027 .How can you even compare .
@@CraigMinnie Ireland held for 65 weeks 17 games SA 2021 40 weeks not 55 that BS and this last time 5 games. Something wrong with you mate when you have to make sh1t up.
@davidwalker2402 I made a typo with the dates should say sa held the number one spot for 14 months between 2019 and 2022 and another 10 months since the 2023 world cup win. You like to conviently leave out history and world cups .Both Nz and sa have great overall rugby records. Nz definitely the best team ever in the world and Sa second. Go look at the stats nz is the only team in the world that has a winning record over Sa .Sa has winning records over all the Northern hemisphere teams since they played each other , even a winning record over the British and Irish lions .And winning records against Argentina and Australia. Ireland have losing records to England, Wales, France , Australia, Nz and as far as six nations wins they sit 4th and triple crowns 3rd that's in a competition with 6 teams .As for world cups I will spare you that horrendous record of those 10 tournaments. Stats and facts don't lie .And you can sceam and moan and perform but your stats don't make you a great rugby nation.
@@CraigMinnie more SA arrogance and ignorance , no one disputes who’s the best team nor have I or anyone else disputed that, it’s the insecure SAs that have a problem with tiny nations beating the crap out of them so much so they think they somehow own rugby but while you have a great record in rugby you have an appalling record for drugs in rugby enhancing drugs the drugs of cheats. Many countries including NZ are much less trusting of SA this last year alone 11 schools players banned for taking drugs and two internationals banned for 4 years and these are only the ones that have gotten caught . No other country in the rugby world has a problem so big yet SA ignores this and where the last nation to sign up for WADAs newest regulations only because they were heavily threatened by WR at last years QF of the WC. That’s where SA rugby stands today .
World Rugby should award Ireland the Imaginary Rugby World Champions Cup. Or maybe the Consolation Cup for Quarter Final Faders. Or the Blarney Leprechaun Cup for Big Talkers
I think there is amazing jealousy in SA , I seem to remember the same when NZ were the most consistent team in the world and SA world champions. It’s simple win more consistently and you stay at number 1 .
@@leoncolwin8645 you may not be jealous but you are 100% racist and considering the sacrifices made by 1000s all over the world to support SA during apartheid it seems you learned nothing.
If you cannot be consistent then you don’t deserve to be number 1. You won a competition last November it’s over in order to be number 1 team now you prove it by not losing to teams ranked 5 places below you. World rankings are a record of how teams are playing in the present.
@@davidwalker2402England couldn’t beat NZ in NZ but Argentina did. Argentina just don’t get the credit they deserve sometimes, they are FAR better than their rankings suggest.
@@lf4416 you make no sense , England beat Argentina twice in the WC. It seems SAs can never remember losing 🤣 but world rankings are all about consistency and beating teams above you while not losing to teams below you. I’ll note to a man almost every SA commenting previous to this week described SA as the number 1 team in the world. It seems that ongoing title only matters when you’re number 1.
Funny how the world rankings only matter when you are no. 1. SA have been the best World Cup knock-out team since the last two RWC and Ireland have been the most consistent. We should both be proud but also humble as neither has been able to emulate the NZ team in the last decade by being both RWC winners and consistently the best team between world cups.
@@sancojoseph4939 Its because if a team is truly no.1, surely that would reflect at the highest level of this sport (World Cups). If a team ranked no.1 has never proven that they can at least be good enough to get a world cup bronze medal or at least make it past the quarters then they can never be no.1 . If you play in the 6N and play teams like England, France, Italy, Wales and Scotland...it is obviously easy to be consistent. If you we to play NZ, SA, AUS and ARG each twice in a row back to back and travel to three continents in doing so, Ireland would probably lose at least every second test, minimum. Not to mention.\, having your national team play for the same club and country all year around, puts Ireland at a competitive advantage...and still, no world cup quater-final to be seen and needing an Aussie to scrape the bok team that didn't play since October by a point.
@@davidwalker2402 can you at least say and won 1 because it’s hard to read 🤣. Also that’s rubbish look at the test match games sa won both so obviously they haven’t only won 1 in the last 5 games 🤨
@@jake2172-p2v it’s no wonder nobody likes SA rugby fans. We can hold our heads high as No 1 team at present in the world also with the knowledge that our rugby is not riddled with suspensions and bans for drug taking. You should look within before you ridicule others 🤣
@@davidwalker2402it’s not about fans it’s about not choking in RWC,s ………..it’s called the big Irish quarter choke ! 😊🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣There is the Green machine and there is the Choker Green Team the wannabees ,the in between RWC number one’s 😂
Ireland in the November internationals are playing nz(if we win only small gain big loss if we lose), fiji we can't gain any points same for Argentina and Australia no points if we win but lose lots of points if we lose.
Honestly, who cares. The only thing that matters is winning the Rugby Championship, World Cup etc. being ranked #1 means nothing in tournaments and at the end of the day it’s about bringing back the gold
@@SteveWarlee you have the best record in world cups we bow to you, but outside that you are average continuously getting beat by teams ranked below you. There are other competions some 4 times richer in prize money than the WC and also plays a part in team’s legacy. You must also remember SA are by far the largest rugby playing nation in the world with 5/6 times pool of players bigger than Ireland New Zealand so I would expect you to win more world cups but outside that you preform way below some other teams most notably the ABs.
@@ThatGuy-sw2xe you have only one thing ever to say and its there to try denigrate much smaller rugby nations. But your record outside WC is really bad considering the size of SA rugby playing population, on the other hand a tiny nation with only approx 160 internationals to choose from are both much higher earners from winning prize money and now much more consistent. That’s the facts. Sometimes its best to give credit where its due than to continually knock smaller nations with a lot less resources.
Ireland put themselves in position to get world no.1 by beating the boks in SA, as well as continued good form in 6nations etc. i see no issue with this as both are very good teams in equal deserving of the spot.
Honest speaking these things of Workd Rankings for us in South Africa count for nothing is useless, what matters Springboks are 4times World Champion 🏆🏆🏆🏆☝️😅
So to summarise he doesn’t know what he’s saying 😂. He said sa can’t move up but the later says they can’t move up because if this game against Argentina if they win. Then he says but South Africa are going to vs England and Ireland will vs New Zealand so it might change a bit 😂 like what. You can’t say sa can’t get back to #1 if Ireland are very much likely to lose against Ireland which should lower there score otherwise it’s unfair 😂
These rankings are ridiculous and don't count for anything. Ireland will sit there as number 1 ranked, but they don't have what it takes to win World Cups.
France are very much up there with Ireland and South Africa. Ignore their Argentina tour because they didn't send a full squad. They have only lost to Ireland since that WC QF and that was with 14 men and no Dupont. If either SA or Ireland were to play France in Paris now I believe they'd lose. Luckily for SA they don't have to play them this November and luckily for Ireland they have France at home in the 6N next year.
Please slow your speech down. It sounds like you’re in a rush to certain sentences. It would be easier to listen and comprehend if your slowed down. Your content is really good otherwise, please keep it up! 😊
They can keep there rankings we got the worldcup and Rassie is going to win it for a third time wztch this space without a shadow of a doubt
The problem is that our wins against Aus meant no points on the rankings because Aus were so low. Had we received points for those wins, different story
@@matthewcullislive633 it wouldn’t be a different story, Ireland beat you in the World Cup got no points they France Scotland twice wales Italy also got no points.
@@davidwalker2402Ireland held the number one ranking for 60 weeks Sa held it for 55 weeks from 2021 to 2022 and now again for 40 weeks .Plus we have held the world cup from 2019 to 2024 and will actually hold that title till 2027 .How can you even compare .
@@CraigMinnie Ireland held for 65 weeks 17 games SA 2021 40 weeks not 55 that BS and this last time 5 games. Something wrong with you mate when you have to make sh1t up.
@davidwalker2402 I made a typo with the dates should say sa held the number one spot for 14 months between 2019 and 2022 and another 10 months since the 2023 world cup win. You like to conviently leave out history and world cups .Both Nz and sa have great overall rugby records. Nz definitely the best team ever in the world and Sa second. Go look at the stats nz is the only team in the world that has a winning record over Sa .Sa has winning records over all the Northern hemisphere teams since they played each other , even a winning record over the British and Irish lions .And winning records against Argentina and Australia. Ireland have losing records to England, Wales, France , Australia, Nz and as far as six nations wins they sit 4th and triple crowns 3rd that's in a competition with 6 teams .As for world cups I will spare you that horrendous record of those 10 tournaments. Stats and facts don't lie .And you can sceam and moan and perform but your stats don't make you a great rugby nation.
@@CraigMinnie more SA arrogance and ignorance , no one disputes who’s the best team nor have I or anyone else disputed that, it’s the insecure SAs that have a problem with tiny nations beating the crap out of them so much so they think they somehow own rugby but while you have a great record in rugby you have an appalling record for drugs in rugby enhancing drugs the drugs of cheats. Many countries including NZ are much less trusting of SA this last year alone 11 schools players banned for taking drugs and two internationals banned for 4 years and these are only the ones that have gotten caught . No other country in the rugby world has a problem so big yet SA ignores this and where the last nation to sign up for WADAs newest regulations only because they were heavily threatened by WR at last years QF of the WC. That’s where SA rugby stands today .
World Rugby should award Ireland the Imaginary Rugby World Champions Cup. Or maybe the Consolation Cup for Quarter Final Faders. Or the Blarney Leprechaun Cup for Big Talkers
I think there is amazing jealousy in SA , I seem to remember the same when NZ were the most consistent team in the world and SA world champions. It’s simple win more consistently and you stay at number 1 .
@@davidwalker2402 I'm very jealous of all of Ireland's imaginary silverware. I wish the Boks could win the Leprechaun's Cup for Quarter Finals
@@leoncolwin8645 you may not be jealous but you are 100% racist and considering the sacrifices made by 1000s all over the world to support SA during apartheid it seems you learned nothing.
@@SteveWarlee 4 of the last 5 games played my heart bleeds for SA 😂
😂😂😂😂😂quarter final faders
Does not matter as the seeding for WC 2027 will
Only be based in the end of year 2025 rankings
WR will make a cup for ireland if they end 1st on the rankings year end
If you cannot be consistent then you don’t deserve to be number 1. You won a competition last November it’s over in order to be number 1 team now you prove it by not losing to teams ranked 5 places below you. World rankings are a record of how teams are playing in the present.
@@davidwalker2402england beat ireland
@@davidwalker2402England couldn’t beat NZ in NZ but Argentina did. Argentina just don’t get the credit they deserve sometimes, they are FAR better than their rankings suggest.
@@kingpower4631 your comment makes no sense.
@@lf4416 you make no sense , England beat Argentina twice in the WC. It seems SAs can never remember losing 🤣 but world rankings are all about consistency and beating teams above you while not losing to teams below you. I’ll note to a man almost every SA commenting previous to this week described SA as the number 1 team in the world. It seems that ongoing title only matters when you’re number 1.
Funny how the world rankings only matter when you are no. 1. SA have been the best World Cup knock-out team since the last two RWC and Ireland have been the most consistent. We should both be proud but also humble as neither has been able to emulate the NZ team in the last decade by being both RWC winners and consistently the best team between world cups.
Amen to that, noticing a lot of Bok fans simply refuse to give credit to Ireland. As if doing so would lead to certain death.
@@sancojoseph4939 Its because if a team is truly no.1, surely that would reflect at the highest level of this sport (World Cups). If a team ranked no.1 has never proven that they can at least be good enough to get a world cup bronze medal or at least make it past the quarters then they can never be no.1 .
If you play in the 6N and play teams like England, France, Italy, Wales and Scotland...it is obviously easy to be consistent. If you we to play NZ, SA, AUS and ARG each twice in a row back to back and travel to three continents in doing so, Ireland would probably lose at least every second test, minimum. Not to mention.\, having your national team play for the same club and country all year around, puts Ireland at a competitive advantage...and still, no world cup quater-final to be seen and needing an Aussie to scrape the bok team that didn't play since October by a point.
The boks beat them 2 in a row idk
@@EditMovie17 boks in the last 5 games lost 4 won 1 go figure…
@@davidwalker2402 can you at least say and won 1 because it’s hard to read 🤣. Also that’s rubbish look at the test match games sa won both so obviously they haven’t only won 1 in the last 5 games 🤨
Other rugby pundits are saying if we win by 15 points or more we are back at number one.
Please explain how the WR points system works it really doesn't make sense to me sounds like some strange mathematical mystery
That loss against Ireland hurt us
If the rakings count for anything, Ireland should have won the WC by miles.
but they didnt because they were not capable of handling BMT
@@jake2172-p2v it’s no wonder nobody likes SA rugby fans.
We can hold our heads high as No 1 team at present in the world also with the knowledge that our rugby is not riddled with suspensions and bans for drug taking. You should look within before you ridicule others 🤣
@@davidwalker2402 accuse me of exactly what you are doing...troll
@@jake2172-p2v 🤣🤣🤣
@@davidwalker2402it’s not about fans it’s about not choking in RWC,s ………..it’s called the big Irish quarter choke ! 😊🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣There is the Green machine and there is the Choker Green Team the wannabees ,the in between RWC number one’s 😂
Shem. Let the lads use their 1 spot to tend to their WC wounds. It's not a trophy, but it's something for the also rans.
Ireland in the November internationals are playing nz(if we win only small gain big loss if we lose), fiji we can't gain any points same for Argentina and Australia no points if we win but lose lots of points if we lose.
Honestly, who cares. The only thing that matters is winning the Rugby Championship, World Cup etc. being ranked #1 means nothing in tournaments and at the end of the day it’s about bringing back the gold
Rankings are for teams that aren’t capable of winning World Cups. 🤷♂️
@SteveWarlee shame, must be tough for you to live with that...
@@SteveWarlee Que?
@@SteveWarleeand that team still has four wins while your small-time team can’t get past a Quarter when it actually matters.
@@SteveWarlee you have the best record in world cups we bow to you, but outside that you are average continuously getting beat by teams ranked below you. There are other competions some 4 times richer in prize money than the WC and also plays a part in team’s legacy. You must also remember SA are by far the largest rugby playing nation in the world with 5/6 times pool of players bigger than Ireland New Zealand so I would expect you to win more world cups but outside that you preform way below some other teams most notably the ABs.
@@ThatGuy-sw2xe you have only one thing ever to say and its there to try denigrate much smaller rugby nations. But your record outside WC is really bad considering the size of SA rugby playing population, on the other hand a tiny nation with only approx 160 internationals to choose from are both much higher earners from winning prize money and now much more consistent. That’s the facts. Sometimes its best to give credit where its due than to continually knock smaller nations with a lot less resources.
Ireland put themselves in position to get world no.1 by beating the boks in SA, as well as continued good form in 6nations etc. i see no issue with this as both are very good teams in equal deserving of the spot.
If Ireland played in the RC, they wouldnt even be above England, lets be real here..
This is the risk you get with experimental team selections
i like how no one cares about the rankings when you're no longer no 1
You seem to know everyone on TH-cam
@@teatime6414 I do. You should see my mailing list. It's a nightmare
Ireland play NZ and Argentina in November, anything can happen…
Lost to Ireland at home
Lost to Argentina
Can't see how we can be #1
Thanks Libbok! Once again and again you have damaged the Springbok’s reputation. Drop this “player”.
Thanks
Honest speaking these things of Workd Rankings for us in South Africa count for nothing is useless, what matters Springboks are 4times World Champion 🏆🏆🏆🏆☝️😅
The only champuonship that really mater are the RWC...OF WHICH WE STAND ALONE X 4 TIMES AND BACK TO BACK
With a “player” like Libbok there won’t be a 5 Win - that is for sure. Enjoy the current WC.
We do not care. We are the World Champions for the next three and a bit years still!!!!!!!
If we beat Argentina by 15 or more points i believe we go to #1 again..
Rankings do not fit in the trophy cupboard😂
Ridiculous SA loses number 1 spot by losing 1 game Ireland do not play at all yet the pass to number 1 😱😱
But but but but l the BeSt tEaM iN dA woRLd are the iwish, pretty much world Champs now 🏆 🥇 🏅😂😂
What would happen if the boks beat the pumas 58-0,could they then get the no 1 spot again?🤔🤔👀👀👀👀👇👇👊👍💪🇬🇧🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
So to summarise he doesn’t know what he’s saying 😂. He said sa can’t move up but the later says they can’t move up because if this game against Argentina if they win. Then he says but South Africa are going to vs England and Ireland will vs New Zealand so it might change a bit 😂 like what. You can’t say sa can’t get back to #1 if Ireland are very much likely to lose against Ireland which should lower there score otherwise it’s unfair 😂
Don't give a $%$#& about rankings, as long as by team play a Gr8 ! game, that's all I want.
Wait until new Zealand beat Ireland in Ireland. Then we will see.
Barely beat australia last week, nz are currently a 60 minute team with no bench impact, lets see how they do this wknd
These rankings are ridiculous and don't count for anything. Ireland will sit there as number 1 ranked, but they don't have what it takes to win World Cups.
Ag dis als n pot kak man. Ag shame hulle is nr 1 maar het nog vokol gewen in n WB nie
France are very much up there with Ireland and South Africa. Ignore their Argentina tour because they didn't send a full squad. They have only lost to Ireland since that WC QF and that was with 14 men and no Dupont. If either SA or Ireland were to play France in Paris now I believe they'd lose. Luckily for SA they don't have to play them this November and luckily for Ireland they have France at home in the 6N next year.
Please slow your speech down. It sounds like you’re in a rush to certain sentences. It would be easier to listen and comprehend if your slowed down.
Your content is really good otherwise, please keep it up! 😊
Thanks libbok a 10 that cant kick clutch kicks
Ireland are the best
The best in RWC to choke in the quater finals.😂 Enjoy being Nr1. Being nr 1 is very much different than being world champs😁😂
no anc clowns for me long live ireland