J-20 Mighty Dragon Vs F-15E Strike Eagle | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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5:00 lmfao😂🤣
Ww2 content? Jap vs American power in the sky
my friend you made a typo on the title
J-20 Mighty Dragon Vs F-15E Strike Eagle | Digital Combat SImulator | DCS |
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just pointing it out if you havent realised it yet the Simulator word's i is a capital letter instead of a non capital one
@@Error-33 lol he often does this, which is why I always make sure to ask for em to fly planes on the left of my request to avoid confusion ;)
The F-15E's air-to-ground radar picked up camels wandering through the Iraqi desert, so yeah, it's a very powerful radar.
Those camels got cancer, too
@@karabenomar😭🙏 poor bluds
@@karabenomar GS in another video: "Tomcat radar bro, I should at least be able to give him cancer once i get a lock".
The camels sprayed brown chaff from their rear ends when they realised they were being tracked...
@@jpaulc441throw off heat seeker.
At this point I’m convinced GS can find a way to defeat any aircraft in any other aircraft
The Wright Flyer vs a Colonial Viper Mk VII, GS loads the Blunderbuss...
tmrw we are fighting the aliens from Independence Day with a Sopwith Camel.
He actually beat an F-16 in a spitfire from ww2
Except that one F-22 that snuck up behind him☠ timeless classic
@@GrowlingSidewinder sop em up like a biscuit.
Aerospace Engineer here. Canards by themselves are not the determining factor when it comes to stealth. The shape of them, how well they are integrated into the airframe, the angles and deformations made in their rotation, and the surface materials are all going to play a part in how it reflects, scatters, and absorbs radar waves. Therefore, it is not that canards are or are not inherently stealthy, it is how they are constructed and integrated with the rest of the airplane that will determine it.
Yeah makes no sense coz they don't seem too much different from vertical stabilisers or wing leading edges in ways they may contribute to radar return.
Everything else being equal however, they certainly can't make an aircraft _more_ stealthy.
IOW, a stealthy canard may be... a _canard?_
Makes sense cause the gripens RCS is pretty good and it has canards
@@chadwarden593 is the same surface of an horizontal stabilizer, placed in another place
You confirmed my opinion. Always thought that the sentence: "canards prevents stealth" was nonsense.
I get the feeling the J-20 died because they ran out of missiles. It's easy to talk about the F-15EX and F-15E being obsolete but it really does seem like a very powerful radar, big engines and many more missiles than the opponent has its advantages.
How is the EX obsolete when its first flight was in 2021
@@ThatOneBoomer_Hehe I believe the thought behind that is because the first f-15 was a 1969 concept. The EX may be newly built craft, but the thinking is that non stealth minded aircraft may struggle in peer/near-pear conflicts.
@kylelantan9220 all u need is a f35 marking targets and f15 EXs lob AMRAMs in from a safe distance
The F-15 is just pure American Muscle.
7:59 Your radar actually picked him up. He was further than 20 miles. The triangle at the top of the radar indicates a radar contact seen off screen.
I was literally shouting that at my screen 😂
Funny thing is, had he actually realised that he may not have won the fight. By missing the chance to shoot a couple of times he had amraams to spare when pushing at the end.
No
Man really pulled a “it’s not about the plane, it’s the pilot.”
It's not the barrel, it's the roll.
@@rcslyman8929 DO A BARREL ROLL!
A conveniently placed island wouldn't help either.
He's really improved from when I started watching a few years ago. At this rate he could get a gig teaching some foreign airforce.
Imagine being an islander out mowing the grass and here comes a fighter jet using your home as a sponge for stray missiles. 🤣🤣🤣
Guy loading missiles on F15E: How many AMRAAMs would you like?
GS: All the AMRAMMs you have please.
Loader: Sir, that’s not possib…
GS: I SAID ALL OF THEM, DID I STUTTER?
GS: More AMRAAMS please, I might need to do some air-to ground later.
Toward the end there I was wondering how many he had left.
I want all the AMRAAM's you have.
wait, wait wait. I'm afraid what you heard me say is "I want a lot of AMRAAM's." What I said was, "I want ALL. The AMRAAM's you have."
Engineer 1:"Hmmm the F22 is better than the F15 in every way in its intended role, what are we going to do with our stockpile of them?"
Engineer 2:"Well, the F22 can only carry a few missiles without compromising the stealth...."
Engineer 1:".....I have an idea"
Ron Swanson : Just give me all the AMRAAMs you have.
Them: You got it!
Ron Swanson: Wait, wait. I'm worried what you just heard was, "Give me a lot of 120s" What I said was, "Give me all the AMRAAMs you have." Do you understand?
If you're not cheating, you're not trying. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics have failed.
Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is one you lose.
I believe in a fair fight. It is only fair that I use any and every underhanded tactic to win the fight. Pocket sand plus nut shot then run cause I called for a JDAM.
"If you find yourself in a fair fight, one of you fucked up."
Someone i played against said that exact thing to me in a golf match today... 😆 funny I was not aware of this rule, and then proceeded to roll some bombs on him 4 holes in a row to close him out
Modern world lore
Am I crazy for thinking the E is one of the only jets that actually looks even better with a twin seat cockpit/canopy?
Twin seat Super Hornets look very good too and better than the single seater Super Hornet imo
The SU30 as well. There's just something about twin engine fighter aircraft in general that really works well with the 2 seater arrangement.
The conformal tanks give it a nice chunky look to balance out the extra nose.
Tomcat too, try looking at the single seat concepts for it
Flankers look better with the second cockpit. Single-seat Flankers look kinda hump-backed
Day 89 of asking for AH-64 Apache versus Su-57 Felon
It'll happen eventually, keep trucking
Very fair match, I’d think the Apache would win because all it would need to do is do a cobra and use it’s gun, pretty easy mashup
Don't give up son
Keep going bro
Ayo🤨
Wondering when GS is gonna do some F-35 Lightning II flying. 🤔
GS: What F35?
When there's a decent F-35 model. That Fat Amy version does the real thing no favors.
This video reminds me of an old Chinese flights sim video from 20 years ago where a J-8II with a hilariously beefy radar uses terrain and spams a F-22 to death with pl-12.
The resemblance is almost uncanny.
J20: Stelf
F15E: I can see into the future, pal...
"-And I just happen to have a conveniently placed island."
Another advantage of the Strike Eagle over the J-20 (apart from greater armament capacity) is that it actually has a gun. So if everyone runs out of missiles before the fight is over, you can get up close for an easy gun kill. ;)
A lot Today's F15E have upgraded to AGN-82 radar so I'm better range, etc and can carry Lighting pods to shoot Meteor and of course AIM 260 Missiles. F15EX can take that fool out from a distance.
@@jorgecgonzalez9976 The capabilities of the current radars on F-15s blow me away.
@@jorgecgonzalez9976 You mean Litening Pod?
@@jorgecgonzalez9976yeah but the F-15EX is the upgraded version of the F-15C. It's a true air superiority fighter that's made to take out other aircraft, so that goes without saying.
@@jorgecgonzalez9976 The F-15E (or C, SA, EX, etc.) cannot fire the Meteor. There were some export customers interested and talks were held with MBDA, but it did not go anywhere. The F-15E's next air-to-air loadout will likely include the AIM-260 and whatever the LREW program produces (and AIM-9X obviously). The only American plane that will carry a Meteor will be the F-35 in some countries' "bespoke" variants.
One day this man's videos will be the basic combat doctrine for the US Air Force / Navy's Air Force. The spectacular skills in these situations is just too good.
In real world you can't over-g like that all the time. Especially a rolling over-g. It gets dismissed as kind of an "oh well, sorry crew chief" but in my experience in T-37s, T-38s, and especially C-17s it is really a no go. I have talked to people (as I didn't fly fighters but have friends that did and do) that said you do what you have to do within structural limits in combat though.
AF 1990-2024, C-17 and MQ-9
LOL
An f-15 with meteors/aim-260 would/will be horrifying to fight
Great vid as always GS. If you somehow read this, you mentioned doing P-51 vs F-22 and the Eurofighter vs the Spitfire and Bf-109, so perhaps we could see the I-16 fight the Su-57
Exaaaactlyyyyyy!
P-51, Spitfire, and Bf-109 were top line fighters. I-16 wasn't. Should really be a Yak-9 or La-7 vs Su-57.
Any day GS uploads 2 videos: he's feeling chipper
Any day GS uploads only 1 video: he is horribly sick
Any day GS doesn't upload: he is probably dead
Would love to see F-22 vs YF-23...
Ahh yes the old Dale Gribble pocket sand technique. Very formidable indeed.
The J-20 looks like a Wish version of the F-22
the J20 always looked like a someone went "Mom, can we have an F22." "No, we have F22 at home." The F22 at home: J20.
Obviously nothing looks as good as and F-22 but honestly I personally think the J20 looks slick as hell, its a bit long in the fuselage otherwise its a very pretty jet. Unlike the SU-57, that ugly pig.
@@MrEzmodebroi honestly prefer the looks of the j20 over things like the f35 even
@@ini_tials Yeah the F-35 looks good but it looks like F-22s fat little brother.
@@MrEzmodebromatter of objectivity. I personally think the Felon looks so good it's only 2nd to the Raptor.
Okay 3rd. The Flanker looks better than the Felon.
@@thekaorucat I love the look of Flankers, the carrier based su-33 looks so good imo. Its essentially the same jet as the su-27 just with canards and is a naval plane. But my favorite 4th gen is the F-16 viper. God that thing is glorious. F-22 - F-16 - J20 - su-33/27 is my top list. :D I feel like the J20 is like if the F-35 had a baby with the Eurofighter and the J20 was the result.
Your flying and situational awareness is amazing. Very fun to watch. Keep up the content.
Rocking the Seymour Johnson AFB tale code and the 4th Fighter Wing, 334th Fighter Squadron Eagles, (Blue Fin Flash), former fliers like Yeager and Grissom came through there. Nicely done ! ! !
I personally genuinely like the J-20s design, it's funky and different, I like it.
Looks cool, and that’s half the battle lol
Funky and different gets you killed lol
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J-20 is just a 5th Gen Fighter of American F-4 Phantom, bruh. No Guns but Maneuverable
"I'm not like other girls-"
Those cinematic camera angles are awesome! Keep those up!!!
I find I'm always moving my head, trying to look around when I watch your videos. Damn trackir!
One of your finest! That China bird was tough!
what’s even more impressive is how he managed to fly this jet the way he did given that it’s SJ’s eagle. Those things are sh*boxes with with wings
Especially being that it’s a 334th training squadron F-15 as well xD
@@maskedcarnage640that is part of the fourth fighter wing so it could be from the rocketeers, chiefs, or the eagle squadron. Chiefs are the leading mig killers in the world
Glad to see the channel grow this stuff kicks butt
The f15's radar gives the saying 'I see you' a whole new dimension
Hey would love to see you fly the j20 always seen you fly the aircraft against it.
Don't think he ever flown any Chinese Air craft lol
@@cj41079 JF17/FC1
@@cj41079He’s flown a few of the Russian modifications.
@@cj41079 hes flown the j11
That J-20 put up quite the fight considering it had nowhere to hide.
Awesome fight. Loved how you used the terrain for tactical advantage! 🦅🦅🦅
Great episode and already 2k subs in two days keep up the great work
The fight of the missile trucks
It’d be fun to try see what it’d be like if the F-15E had Phoenix missiles.
pheonix missiles are junk. The aim 120 is sooooooo much better.
Had an old model of an f15 came with 6 Pheonix missles. Max loadout without drop tanks I'm pretty sure
Nice seeing a F-15 Strike Eagle out of Seymour Johnson AFB Goldsboro NC
In the end F-15E is not a dogfighter but it's not just a bomber too cause it is good fighter in BVR, so a truely fighter-bomber jet 😮
At 10:00, since you had visual, after "ripple firing" two AMRAAMs, you could have waited to see his defensive turn and positioned yourself on his six and then took him out with an AIM-9 (assuming you had those in your inventory).
Great video.
GS, contrary to his name, almost never takes AIM-9's to BVR fights.
"Hello, I'm GS and today I'm going to make an attempt at destroying an F-22 with a B-52."
**wins in said B-52**
Anything can be a fighter. If you're brave enough
Thank you for dropping tanks GS, I am proud of you
That was a nice job, GS! I was expecting the J-20 to handily win here.
@5:00 Absolutely. The objective is not to "play fair". It's to WIN the fight, whatever it takes!
The second explosion was the real secret behind chinese stealth tech. Now you see it, now you don't.
The flammable plastic… it all makes sense now
Another great video GS! Congrats to Bane in the J20 for dodging so many missiles from the F 15E.
I remember as a kid I was in Idaho, a B52 , escorted by a Phantom, doing a low level training mission, and they were so low my truck shook.
For some reason this video gave me an idea. If someone developed a special device that mimicked the radar from a Fox3 and placed it on some sort of dummy missile that loitered in the battle space and just stayed locked on the enemy aircraft for a long period of time. The idea would be to just make his RWR scream at him the entire time so he wouldn't know when a real Fox3 got fired. Has this been done and would it work?
Knowing the USA, this was probably tested out in like 1972, went 3 billion over budget, and then was never thought of again
You would need to be as fast as the missile though. You would need to make an entire plane sized decoy for that
I'd like to see you use the "enemy" aircrafts some times, it seems you win a lot of the time with all the tehnical explanations real time, wich is great! How would you do in these other aircrafts?
Yes in j20, Rafale, mirage 2000, Su54 etc
In regards to the calls for fairness:
My trainer during military training loved to say ""If you find yourself in a fair fight, one of you fucked up.""
4:55 GS throwing sand in the enemy’s face before the fight. Man this guy is savage!!
All things being equal, canards are less stealthy than traditional horizontal stabilizers, at least in front aspect. This is because they are your primary maneuvering surface and are constantly changing aspect WRT the radar lighting them up. Traditional horizontal stabs are shadowed by the wings and so there is more radar energy scattered prior to hitting the big stabilizer plate. But with a canard, the whole thing is face on to the radar without the wing helping to mask it.
I JUST REALIZED that J-20 looks somewhat alike to European powers fighters with those (almost) delta wings and canards.
That's also about the only thing it has in common with euro aircraft tbf
Chinese love stealing ideas
@@jaystengel7511 Y'know, sounds better than morbid American habit of invading independent countries on every damn continent and sponsoring military coups in thirld-world countries.
@@jaystengel7511and westerners love stealing resources
@@jaystengel7511you ever obviously never heard of the J-9V
"We've seen how well f15s radar picks up little things with very low cross sections in the past"
He means camals
According to a study from ICAS "canards can potentially have poor stealth characteristics due to their large and angular surfaces that tend to reflect radar signals forwards."
canards are no different to all moving surface tailplanes. the position they're placed makes no difference to RCS.
@@hughmungus2760 I guess you should let ICAS know that then.
@@hughmungus2760absolutely and utterly false and untrue.
explain why there are a slew of VLO prototypes with canards? @@ObiWanShinobi917
@@hughmungus2760 oh? so tailplanes are mounted in forward section of the fuselage at the thinnest part of close together 180 degrees from each other ?
or they are mouned backwards with mounting points obscured by the front fuselage perpindicular to each other
its like saying prop plane is the same thing as a helicopter because both use rotating blades ...
I'm a little confused as to why the stealth J-20 never got a lock on him long before he got a lock on it.
Because in reality it's a piece of junk.
It is DCS so
@@Electricalphilu have no proof to back your claims
Because the director does not allow it, this video is meaningless and completely obscene
I have to say the Strike Eagle is such a studd a clear badass love the vids with the Eagle keep em coming Sidewinder
Been asking for this one!
Can you fly the J20 in DCS? If so it would be good to see you fly this match-up in reverse
Yeah, I'd like these videos to go another round with the roles reversed. I'm sure GS would win most matches anyway.
In a real situation, the J20 will lock the F15 before it was discovered by radar. J20 is designed to combat beyond visual range, it will never get this close to F15E.
How is bro not at 1m subs yet- content is fire.
Damn, GS with another dub. That was a great vid. The j-20 seems like a super F-15E with stealth characteristics. I’d love to see this same scenario with a SU-33 v J-20. Keep up the great vids🤙🏽
given the number of shots taken by the J20 Im leaning on the idea that the J20 pilot went for a 'beast mode' loadout which compromised its stealth, otherwise it shouldn't have been detectable at 60miles.
@@hughmungus2760In real life, the J-20 has been detected deep inside China by Indian SU-30 Flankers, and I am quite sure the DCS version of it is overpowered compared to the real deal.
@@ricsim78 Not really, many stealth aircraft are often fitted with something called the Luneburg lens, which increase the aircraft's visibility on radar, when not in active combat. Even the F-35 sometimes haves these installed. They do this either deceive enemies of the stealth aircraft's actual stealth capabilities or to make tracking it easier during combat exercises. As you stated, since the J-20s were detected deep inside China, so they probably had these luneburg lens fitting on them. That's my two senses at least.
Hard fought. Thanks for sharing.
Another day at the office for GS! Had to work a little for that one
Day 1 of asking:
Can the F-117 Nighthawk dogfight?
Ha ha ha ha
no
It has no offensive weapons other than internally stored JDAMS(2)
No, for a plethora of reasons. Two main: 1) it has poor flight performances, no afterburner, no capability to sustain hard turns, no supersonic capabilities. 2) it has no gun. Also, I don't think that the payload bays are equipped to embark AA missiles, and in any case it could embark only Sidewinders, lacking a radar.
@@andreabindolini7452 Yes but I want to see it anyway 😄
Maybe a "normal" mission then
Even though you beat him, I think the J-20 did quite well evading a bunch of missiles shot at decent ranges. Especially on the final approach, your radar straggled to keep a continuous lock on him, to the point where you saw him a few times before the radar got anything.
I’d love to see the tac view on that one! Great fight!
nice touch on one of general Patton's famous quotes! ♥️
there's no way the US military doesn't have a modern long range BVR missile option... I assume it just remains classified
Aim-260 in development
@@Madtrack "in development"
The AIM-260 is actually in the trial production run phase.
@@gnarrrrrrrrrrrrProduction set for late this year or next year
@@aidanwilliams9452 this is what they tell the public
There was like 4 times when i asked myself "WTF was the J-20 pilot doing meanwhile?" But is ok, you have to keep the crowd happy. Interesting content as usual...
Now if this were Toxic flying...
@@pyronuke4768 there is a reason why you dont see Toxic or any other good pilot much lately, either they got fed up with scenarios that artificially gave advantages to GS / taken advantages from them or the GS on purpose doesnt want oponents that could actually challenge him
dont know about you but im kinda getting bored with knowing no matter what video it will be he is winning with a lot of "hey lucky there is this mountainrange/island to hide behind" while his oponent is over the flats or ocean ... every ... damn ... time ...
@@Asghaadhe really only survived due to the island
Its awesome how GS grunts when he fires a fox 3 like there's a physical strain to get the missile off. I do the same thing when I hit a power-chord on my guitar.
Was he an actual pilot at some point?
This fight was crazy
You should use this island and simulate an invasion of Taiwan. One carrier fleet trying to hold off the invasion till the rest of the fleet arrives. Turn it into a series maybe? 🤔
The secondary bang was most likely his spare missiles going off. The 15 really needs the 260. Having long range kill capability will take advantage of the radar's range.
depending on the oponent all it will do is making you waste missiles shooting at target you arent going to hit
120Ds as well
Ruthless push at the end. Nice to see.
Congrats for 500k subs
I imagine canards can be as stealthy as horizontal stabilisers or wings - I dont think one can judge stealth from a plane's physical configuration, its more the whole package, and I think very few people outside aerospace experts with high clearances actually understand how it works
True. Its about how the wave bounces off.
Day 7 of asking for F-16 vs Jeff BVR
that would be interesting to watch considering the jeff is suppose to be a level above the f16
the jeffs performance is not even nearly as good as thef16s performance considering thrust to weight and top speed@@humz99
@@humz99Jeff isn't even considered 4th generation in China what are you talking about, it's a 3rd generation fighter with modern electronics.
@@lolasdm6959 even the block 3 ?
@@lolasdm6959 many sources say it’s a 4th + gen ?
Casually goes down to 10 feet @1:39, good thing the sea was calm
The second explosion was his spicy egg roll they carry as a last resort. Never surrender.
If canards are not stealthy then wings are the elephant in the room.
if having canards make you not stealthy remove the wings it's a bigger canard.
@@lolasdm6959F-104 best stealth fighter
Second and can we see f22 vs Chinese carrier
Did you recently get a bump in graphics performance? This looked particularly nice today!! (You’re the best btw - the only creator I watch EVERY DAY)
The Patton quote is one of my favorites.
can you fly the j20 please? it would be beneficial for everyone to see its capabilities.
Hey! Could you please fly an I-16 against a Raptor?
5:00
All I could think of in that moment is Dale from KotH, “Pocket sand!”
Oh, you think BVR is your ally. But you merely adopted the BVR; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the merge until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but VICTORY! - F15, probably
According to militaryembedded the j20 has a radar cross section of 1m2 to 3m2 this the size of 4 gen fighter
Probably not true.....ANY stealth or low observable aircraft brought out by any country that is NOT the USA is ALWAYS described as being "as stealthy as a 4th gen fighter" lol
makes no sense, it doesn't have 90 degree angles it would be less even without the paint.
"you got some dirt in your eye"
-bully GS Maguire
this fight was phenomenal
Bro when the j20 first comes up at 1:00 it sounded like the cartoon jetsons cars😂😂😂 im crying 😂
love this channel . . . thank ya.
4:45 One of the most basic things about any kind of combat is to never get into a fair fight. You don't stand on 11 when the dealer has a king.
Love the daily content❤️❤️❤️
"If I could throw sand in his face I would" - that was hilarious (and true)
that was action-packed
That would have been a great tac view! Can we get an extended version, please!?!? 🙏