Ah, such memories! My grandfather John (Jack) Prentice was head of locomotive engineering for the NSW Government Railways, located at Eveleigh near Redfern. Prior to that last job, he was located at Bathurst, and occasionally visied his engineering facility, marvelling at the heavy machinery (eg steam powered saws). When we visited him from Sydney he would bring out a 3-wheeled powered vehicle that would take us along the tracks to a picnic area - that was a great memory. Travelling from Bathurst to Sydney usually saw us in the middle of the night getting into cold carriages with a metal container on the floor with some warm material that helped with the cold. Well, my grandparents have gone, his daughter (my mother) has gone, and I'm about to turn 78. Like those steam engines, it's time to move on.
Thanks I appreciate that, my favourite section was 3801 in black, because the footage is so rare, the Newcastle speed run is phenomenal, pity that only 3801 survived out of the streamliners
Stephen Miller When approached by preservation groups the NSWGR agreed to preserving one of the 30 locos but if they wanted a streamlined it would $1.00. Extra. should have preserved more of the class in general
Yes but 4 out of 30 is pretty good even if my favourite 3813 is dismantled (curse you Philip Shirley) and in the hands of hoarder Keith Jones at Dorrigo. When he carks or is bankrupted perhaps the only surviving Cardiff built locomotive will come back.
Great videos, those of us who were there can still smell the steam, oil and coal smoke. Cabbed 38s from Sydney Central to Campbeltown occasionally, good times!
MY GOSH!! All the videos are registered in colour!! And at that times there were available electric services too!! My father was a porter in long distance service for more than 30 years in Argentina and I was a railwayman too when I was 19/20, I worked for some times like assistant to an engine driver in diesel locos!! Regards from Buenos Aires!!
She does look a little bit "sinister" in black,but, delightfully so. Even with a filthy coating on her green she is still wonderful. She needs to come back one day. Some of the early footage is priceless. Well done .
Brings back memories of my father. Early WW2 years as a Fireman on 38 class between Coffs Harbour and Casino and the last couple of years before becoming a 'Sparky' based at Hornsby and driving 32 class on the Cowan Bank.
Also might have the locomotive classes mixed for the line between Coffs and Casino, I don’t think the 38 class operated that far north in NSW. Keep in mind the 38’s were intended for express passenger services, so they’d be wasted on small towns like Coffs and Casino, especially as they were brand new locomotives in the 1940’s. Might have been a different class?
Loco crews often find working with one engine different from another. Let's see what the engines convey to us in what the images and matching sounds tell us: 3801 - an engine that settled well into the opportunity to show its paces, settling comfortably into a stride once on the roll. Literally a 'beauty queen' to quote its signature song, and a lot more, knowing too that it lasted into preservation and carries on an ongoing legacy as, arguably, THE icon of Australian steam. 3802 - ran smoothly without being coaxed, but was noticeably stolid when faced with a tough climb. 3803 - did whatever was given to it and showed them well, responding nicely to any climb and any gruelling task. Was given a fitting send-off with 3801 as the last of her streamlined siblings to face their demise. 3804 - clearly took time to settle into a stride, but ran well when it did. 3805 - contently did what it was asked to. Regards, Samuel Farris.
@@davidmason7765 Born well after the end of steam here in England. It's just that, aside from being very interested in trains, I also took a student course in psychology, and, in matter of intrigue, I translated what I picked up from the latter in relation to the signs of what I was seeing. Regards, Samuel.
Loving your videos, plenty around my old home at Lisarow. Particularly like seeing Arthur Birch’s name up bring the cameraman. I worked for Arthur at the Reptile Park at North Gosford in the late 60’s. I would have seen you guys out videoing plenty of times. Are you living on the Coast?
That's a very good point, John. Either the date on the film canister was wrong or this isn't Glenfield. The lady's outfit certainly looks older than 1968. Did 3803 run on the south after withdrawal from the north?
Tis a pity that out of 30 locomotives one is in a scrap yard in Dorrigo and three more are just museum pieces. Could have kept one example of top line mainline steam operational. but beaurocy killed the dream
3813 is in pieces rusting away at Dorrigo and will never likely be reassembled. 3830 is complete and owned by The Powerhouse museum and currently awaiting a decision on boiler repairs. Currently not considered financially practical. 3820 is static display at NSW rail transport museum Thirlmere. Could possibly, at great expense, be returned to running condition. 3801 is now back to full running condition following major overhaul.
A great little video I remember working with 03 on the flyer at high speed much better loco than 01.
Ah, such memories! My grandfather John (Jack) Prentice was head of locomotive engineering for the NSW Government Railways, located at Eveleigh near Redfern. Prior to that last job, he was located at Bathurst, and occasionally visied his engineering facility, marvelling at the heavy machinery (eg steam powered saws). When we visited him from Sydney he would bring out a 3-wheeled powered vehicle that would take us along the tracks to a picnic area - that was a great memory. Travelling from Bathurst to Sydney usually saw us in the middle of the night getting into cold carriages with a metal container on the floor with some warm material that helped with the cold. Well, my grandparents have gone, his daughter (my mother) has gone, and I'm about to turn 78. Like those steam engines, it's time to move on.
Awesome footage! Looking forward to the next instalment.
Thanks Bevan
For a young bloke, this is fantastic. Keep it up BelbinVideo!
Wonderful Graeme. Thanks for posting this. I look forward to the, all. :--)
Thanks Terry
Thanks I appreciate that, my favourite section was 3801 in black, because the footage is so rare, the Newcastle speed run is phenomenal, pity that only 3801 survived out of the streamliners
Stephen Miller When approached by preservation groups the NSWGR agreed to preserving one of the 30 locos but if they wanted a streamlined it would $1.00. Extra. should have preserved more of the class in general
Absolutely stupendous footage of 38s in the late 60s!😃🚂🚂🚂🚂🛤️
Awesome footage. Cannot wait for the next installment. Maybe the rest of the C38 class.👍
Second instalment will be 3806-10, Geoffrey. Working on that one.
Outstanding to see that this footage has survived. :)
great upload love the 38s should have preserved a few more
Yes but 4 out of 30 is pretty good even if my favourite 3813 is dismantled (curse you Philip Shirley) and in the hands of hoarder Keith Jones at Dorrigo. When he carks or is bankrupted perhaps the only surviving Cardiff built locomotive will come back.
@@davidmason7765 3813 will come back because the good news is Philip Shirley is dead.
frigging awesome and as i was born in 58 well - vids
are just great!
Great videos, those of us who were there can still smell the steam, oil and coal smoke. Cabbed 38s from Sydney Central to Campbeltown occasionally, good times!
and i just watched it again - its GREAT!
MY GOSH!! All the videos are registered in colour!! And at that times there were available electric services too!! My father was a porter in long distance service for more than 30 years in Argentina and I was a railwayman too when I was 19/20, I worked for some times like assistant to an engine driver in diesel locos!! Regards from Buenos Aires!!
Great clip many thanks to Mr Belbin for the upload. THX
She does look a little bit "sinister" in black,but, delightfully so. Even with a filthy coating on her green she is still wonderful. She needs to come back one day. Some of the early footage is priceless. Well done .
Brings back memories of my father. Early WW2 years as a Fireman on 38 class between Coffs Harbour and Casino and the last couple of years before becoming a 'Sparky' based at Hornsby and driving 32 class on the Cowan Bank.
Alan Read Would have to be late WW2, the first C38 was built in 1943.
Also might have the locomotive classes mixed for the line between Coffs and Casino, I don’t think the 38 class operated that far north in NSW. Keep in mind the 38’s were intended for express passenger services, so they’d be wasted on small towns like Coffs and Casino, especially as they were brand new locomotives in the 1940’s. Might have been a different class?
38 class worked through to Sth Brisbane after ww2 until track damage closed the line to them ,36class and 35 clsss
Very nice video ❤️👍
Loco crews often find working with one engine different from another. Let's see what the engines convey to us in what the images and matching sounds tell us:
3801 - an engine that settled well into the opportunity to show its paces, settling comfortably into a stride once on the roll. Literally a 'beauty queen' to quote its signature song, and a lot more, knowing too that it lasted into preservation and carries on an ongoing legacy as, arguably, THE icon of Australian steam.
3802 - ran smoothly without being coaxed, but was noticeably stolid when faced with a tough climb.
3803 - did whatever was given to it and showed them well, responding nicely to any climb and any gruelling task. Was given a fitting send-off with 3801 as the last of her streamlined siblings to face their demise.
3804 - clearly took time to settle into a stride, but ran well when it did.
3805 - contently did what it was asked to. Regards, Samuel Farris.
Interesting. Samuel did you work on the 38s concerned? Would love to hear more if so.
@@davidmason7765 Born well after the end of steam here in England. It's just that, aside from being very interested in trains, I also took a student course in psychology, and, in matter of intrigue, I translated what I picked up from the latter in relation to the signs of what I was seeing. Regards, Samuel.
Outstanding!
Loving your videos, plenty around my old home at Lisarow. Particularly like seeing Arthur Birch’s name up bring the cameraman. I worked for Arthur at the Reptile Park at North Gosford in the late 60’s. I would have seen you guys out videoing plenty of times. Are you living on the Coast?
Didn’t Phil have 3803 nose cone or smoke box door in his garage at St Ives? I swore he told me it was 3803 when I was there?
I love that when you look at 3801 from the side it looks like an N&W J
Great stuff, could you please put up the remaining parts please? And also, the video "Days of Steam" and "Days of Steam 2"
Great video. Look forward to next one. But was 3813 always green??
Thanks Michael and yes it was always green.
Thank God for the Belbins!
Also in the late 50s Mid and early 60s!🛤️
Such a shame only one of these beautiful Australian made engines remain.
Is the audio original to the film, or dubbed over?
It's dubbed, GeForce. I'll take that as a compliment haha.
@@BelbinVideo yup haha, you did a pretty damn good dub over, took me a while to realize it lol
Great video. Not sure Glenfield had overhead wires in 1961? I thought electrification to Campbelltown was 1967=68?
That's a very good point, John. Either the date on the film canister was wrong or this isn't Glenfield. The lady's outfit certainly looks older than 1968. Did 3803 run on the south after withdrawal from the north?
John, seems like it might be Warwick Farm.
What a sad thing to see, 3802 pulling freight, the 38's were built for speed not hauling freight, and it should always have been that way.
The streamlined locomotives were definitely the best locomotives.
3827 was always considered to be the best of the class by crews.
Tis a pity that out of 30 locomotives one is in a scrap yard in Dorrigo and three more are just museum pieces. Could have kept one example of top line mainline steam operational. but beaurocy killed the dream
3813 is in pieces rusting away at Dorrigo and will never likely be reassembled. 3830 is complete and owned by The Powerhouse museum and currently awaiting a decision on boiler repairs. Currently not considered financially practical. 3820 is static display at NSW rail transport museum Thirlmere. Could possibly, at great expense, be returned to running condition. 3801 is now back to full running condition following major overhaul.