@@nathanmoore3866 not if you got a Tahoe PPV that boy going all the way up. Flying brick. If you don't know that's the police model no top end limiter or drastically increased. I had mine at 130 and had to start backing down it's scary being that much of a brick at that speed.
@@nathanmoore3866 the whole video was about LS. Your off the map son. Not to mention the original message on the thread was talking about LS. Like you can't bring the conversation back around to the original topic man you must of been top of your class.
I put a truck noris cam in my ls2 GTO and picked up 100 HP and 125 foot pounds. They are great cams. I used the stock yellow gm springs. Rev it to 6500 and it's been in for about 2 years without and spring problems. Just so anyone is considering
Take it with a grain of salt. Dudes full of shit most of the time. The fact he thinks you can build an NA 5.3 with factory bore and make 500hp should tell you all you need to know.
he dont know either he just reads articles and rip off other youtube videos.. all this info been out last 80yrs if ur a real car guy you already know.... and if ur not a kid....... this guy never shows his car lol never but does all this talking bout cars
You can run flat tops and deck the heads to get a bit of compression. I had a 351C SBF that was pushing 12:1 compression. I had to run premium plus two bottles of octane booster when I couldn't get race gas. I don't suggest going over 10.5:1 in a street car. You can get the power, rather easily with a good top end and cam. You also need to address the rotating weight at the dampener and flywheel if you want a motor that revs and drops rpms quickly so you can get fast shifts. It's more important to have an engine that's built right regarding good seal at the piston and valves. Beyond that it comes to flow and a complete burn You will have to deal with the computer to achieve any timing changes on an LS engine. You can't just turn it up or down at the distributor or with an MSD kit because there is no distributor at all. Programming can help these engines out a lot.
I’ve never been interested in car motors or trying to understand all the different types of shit involving a motor!!! But my boy @TBCG makes this stuff sound pretty interesting!!🤟🏽
@@captainprice6465 if it's a suv or truck then yes. Have a suburban that was supercharged to 400 something HP and the trans kept getting destroyed. Now I'm running a built up 4l60e that cost a sh** ton but going to eventually swap in a 4l80e because it's actually stronger. The reason the trans gets destroyed in the larger vehicles are due to the weight of the vehicles.
Even tho the 4l60e is supposed to hold up 450-500 hp it doesn't upgrade the sunshell especially and get a reprogram kit and grab a 2500 stall torque converter as well!...I upgraded my rear end on my 03 yukon to a Detroit Truetrac worm gear posi twirling to the tune of 3:73 for towing and cruising so far so good and don't forget to get a tune!...and yes it's kinda expensive!
I did vortec swap on a 95 dakota, easy peasy, 5 grand all in with the truck that I bought for 700 just changed in a cam, gmc canyon ar5 trans and a 8.8 rear end out of a explorer with 4.10 gears..omg this thing rocks
Damn that sounds badassddd did you need adapter plates for that rear end or was it just a full bolt on ? Also why did you choose the canyons trans ? Jus curious
The 243 ls6 heads are the same as the 799 castings that came on some 5.3Ls like the L33 which is a rare aluminum block 5.3L with flat top pistons from the factory. So an L33 is basically a flat top piston, aluminum block, with ls6 heads. So just add a cam and swap on an LS6 intake. Which is exactly what I've done. The literal only difference between the 799 heads from a 5.3 and the LS6 243 heads is the exhaust valves on the 243s were sodium filled. I'm now contemplating adding a turbo to this engine because I love massive power and it's in a 4000lbs 2000 ZR2 S10 4x4. You could do a mild cam and ls6 intake on a stick L33 and put it in a little light weight car and it would scare the hell out of most anyone. An rx7 would be a great car for the "baby LS6"
Had an 06 GranPrix gxp that had the aluminum LS. Had a cam, rockers, throttle body, ram air, stock heads, aftermarket coils, headers and full exhaust, resonator delete, and a dyno tuned flash. The factory bottom end was fine. The stock heads were fine. It ran low 12s and ate transmissions. Front wheel drive car, though. Torque steer was a bitch, and that stupid cylinder shutoff had to be deleted. Was fun to smoke C5 vettes on the highway in my 4 door Pontiac, but it was 470 ish hp at the wheels. Decent torque but that POS GTP transmission was the weak point. Warranty covered 5 of them lol.
@@jameskirk3 I bet it did eat transmission.Thats the reason I didn't do any power adding mods.i got a borla exhaust and dod turned off.Four cylinder mode was shaking my steering wheel and burning oil.I hate dod so much.
Also the 6.0 is great if you can find one. A sloppy stage 2 cam package and long tube headers and you can hit 500hp that route as well without touching the bottom end
Umm. At the lower levels he's talking, take the aluminum block ALL day over the iron block.....you can make over the 1k mark before you even come close to worrying about block materials.
The 243 heads don't really make any more power over the 862/706 on the small bore. Also a cheap alternative to the dome pistons you can use the 4.8 pistons.
Stock 4.8 pistons are not an alternative to a domed piston. All 4.8's had a true flat top piston, also you have to remember PtV when considering a longer duration cam with any domed piston. 243/799's are cathedral port heads but just stock aren't going to get you 500hp. 862/706's are good too but you Must put a good port in these heads, larger intake valve and a good valve job. Then the cathedral port heads Really make power especially the 243/799's with that nice short turn radius they have that the 706/862's don't really have... however they'll still get destroyed by a good CNC'd rec port head🤷🏻♂️. Have fun👍
Just got a Ram 1500 sport with the 8spd auto and love this truck. Definitely thinking about 392 swap.. Appreciate these videos brother...Merry Christmas 🎄🎄
Just 500 horsepower na? With the amount of money you'd be dumping into just getting a good 392 you can dump into the 5.7 and make like 500 wheel on e85
@@W96NZ yeah man. The 5.7s are slept on. An hrt stage 2 cam, 85mm throttle body, long tube headers, some milled heads to bump the cr with an e85 tune to take advantage of that should set you about there. I mean people gain like 100 horse at the tire just by doing long tubes and a mild cam. They're some really slept on engines. The 2003-2008 heads flow better than the ls1 and the 2009+ heads flow better than 03-08
@@jerodwolford2743 so my 2015 heads are good to go? This is my first truck and first hemi. I just want to have fun, nothing to crazy yet. Once I'm done paying it off then I'll open her up more..
@@W96NZ so you got an eagle hemi. Again I would personally bump the compression because you're sitting at 10:1 which isn't bad at all but the reason why you see 392s gain 50 wheel with just an e85 tune is because they're running 10.9:1 compression. The 5.7s are extremely restricted engines. Take a look at your exhuast manifolds once and you'll understand what I mean. They're very very capable but nobody every really does a whole build on them. Pretty sure it was motortrend who got their hands on a 5.7 when they first came out and filed the ring gaps and threw as much boost at as they could until it grenaded. Turns out it made over 1k horsepower on stock internals.
I would argue the only glaring restriction that came with these truck motors is the laughably weak cams that came in them. The cylinder heads are proven to be pretty damn good depending on casting and at most would require a milling and porting job to be fine for street use. The truck intake manifolds outflow the LS1 and 6 manifolds, and is only really topped by the TBSS intake if you’re only looking at factory manifolds. That being said, a H/C/I Vortec is still a nasty combo for just about any vehicle you could drop it in.
The heads are fine the truck Norris will be the best . Intake use the tbss unless it’s in a car then the hood won’t fit . Other than that your going to be extremely close to 500 mark add headers and cutouts and you will easy make 500 . You don’t need the valve springs but it’s a nice addition . Also you don’t need to touch the block at all and if it’s a gen 4 block cast iron your golden . And again the head are fine
If you leave your 5.3 vortec stock, you'll get 500,000 miles out of it with proper maintenence. One of the best engines I've ever owned! But yes, if you want to upgrade horse power, this man is correct. Either way, treat your 5.3 good, it'll do the same to you.
Exactly I’ve got an 08 Grand Prix GXP with 5.3 just hit 200000 changed valve cover gaskets and when I pulled them off damn I thought it was a brand new engine clean as hell even under the valve covers runs like brand new to no problem
@@treecutter116my Honda Civic SI just hit 200k , I've done a starter, plugs and coil packs, cv axles , and reg maintenance, had the same clutch for 100k mi, the car is insanely reliable.
@@dioad1739awesome! My 97 had 298 on it when I sold it. Ordered my 15 LTZ 5.3 now has 148k ☹️ runsike new... I put a k&n intake on it day 1, love hearing it breathe. I did just get er towed to the dealership (I work at a Chevy dealership) my buddy had it for an hour and called & says "you're ready"..... Bent push rod and broken valve spring. That and collapsed lifter on non afm side a year ago. Trans at 103k 🤨 but to me it's still a new truck. Looks like it too, and I drive the hell out of it. I am not a slow & terrified driver. I like to be moving. Kills me anymore it's like NO ONE under 25 understands what the left lane is. LET'S GO! But yeah the GM 5.3L is bulletproof. For the most part. The 6.2l is a monster and I do sometimes regret not ordering it. It's the only new vehicle ever purchased. 🙏🇺🇲🙏🇺🇲🙏🇺🇲🙏🇺🇲🇺🇲🙏🇺🇲🙏🇺🇲🙏🇺🇲
Actually it's been proven by Richard Holdner that the stock 706 heads make more power on these engines while staying N/A because they have the smallest combustion chamber than 243 or 799. They bump up compression, just mill them down .30 or .40 thousands
@@badassbees3680. The LS1, & LM4 have the weakest factory flow numbers, LS6 are very good intakes. Aldo, you want to pick the correct intake manifold based on your cam, & the rpm you plan on running.
All I need is 381 horse power, like my Toyota Tundra. Gasoline is to high for 500hp. I'm just going to Walmart, Family Dollars, Church and Churches Chicken.
@Tenasedeinc I had a truck norris cam kit with springs, 243 heads and flat top pistons installed on a fresh built 5.3 and it ran me about $4500. That was pre covid so I'm sure it's higher now. It's a fun motor and runs like a striped ape
@kingsupra5023 To get 500 at the crank my build above but with milled heads or domed pistons for higher compression might get you close but for over 450hp at the crank I'd be strongly considering a supercharger or turbo kit. I'd consider upgrading from the stock transmission and rear end after that build if you haven't already
Honestly tho. People need to start trying it themselves. Yes. Engines are a little complex. But all it is, is some bolts after all. Do yourself a favour and do a crap ton of research. Get a proper click type torque wrench and look up the torque spec for every bolt. There’s countless videos on TH-cam for just about every part on every vehicle. Learn some stuff and have fun. And when it all comes together at the end, knowing you did it yourself makes it fell a thousand times more rewarding.
@@matthewcurrie5963 i like the encouragement to do it themselves but if I may add to what you said & argue that it’s not just some bolts its a machine that must be comprehended in it’s entirety in order to learn properly what I mean by that is don’t just add mods because you researched what mods make your car faster understand and look deeper into why it is that kid made it faster. In the end you’ll realize it’s just fire. The more you can get the engine to produce without it blowing up the faster it’ll be. But theory can get you really far, so yes work on your motor but also read
@@iborincon yeah. I’ve always thought that way too. “Car guys” will say just turbo charge it or super charge it to go faster. But most of them don’t actually know anything about it other then one whines and one whistles. They don’t know about the mechanics behind it. What the failure points are. And and all the inner workings
I love these videos bro ima broke ass running a 100hp grocery get-er I been working on moding lmao. but if I ever get out this broke life these videos will have helped me decide what vehicle and engine will be my next project
I have a 2002 GMC sierra 1500 pick up truck with a 5.3 Vortec V8. But in the manual book online says somewhere between 285 to 325 hp and I think the V6 one is at 285 hp and I think my truck is rated at 305 hp
@@weimaraners4822 that's awesome. Is it a drop top? That sounds like a cool ride. I've seen a guy with a jag and one with a Volvo station wagon. Both with 5.3 swaps. Station wagon was a donut machine.
I drive a stock 01 Suburban. 5.3L might not be the beefiest LS engine but it's powerful and the most reliable engine of the fuel injected era. Love this thing!
@@yogiballa I have an 02 Yukon xl as well and it’s been to multiple mechanics including myself and I can’t figure out what’s wrong with it! Runs rough and goes through way too much gas. Changed injectors plugs wires fixed exhaust leaks. I know it’s a solid motor but I’m just stumped 🤦♂️
@@devyngulick5373 did you check the o2 sensors? Also these years of trucks are known for problems with electric grounding, maybe there is something there.
True. Nearly the whole drive-train on my '03 has been replaced besides the engine. That's because I drive it hard, but it's almost at 200k now. Gas mileage is a fucking nightmare though
Congratulation. You're the first guy who's ever talked about 5.3 and how to increase horsepower. What does it do to the rear end? Especially if you have tow haul mode and the rear end towing package?
Im workin on my 2000 Burban right now..... So far it's got dual exhaust with K&N cold air induction and I polished the throttle body.... So far....... I've got an LQ9 6 liter with flat top Pistons I plan to swap into it too.
@@Rellderrick7774.8 engines had flat top pistons factory. 5.3 had small dish in the top of the pistons. 4.8 and 5.3 have the exact same bore size. increase compression half a point.
Lol I got one of those sitting in the driveway in a 2002 regular cab Silverado. Runs great as a Chevy of that era should but boy is it a casualty of rust. Sat for 6 years in a field but didn’t take much to get it started.
I have been in magazines and have numerous trophies on my builds and have car coming out in lowrider magazine this Jan. This guy isn't a builder and anyone that knows about cars can clearly tell but when you have limited intellignce on a subject anyone can spit some regurgitated B's and you will think he is a genius. Let's see him talk about bearing clearances and or balancing and blueprinting a motor. Everything he says is just basic stuff google will give you when you do a quick search
@BlackandWhiteCustoms instead of being so butthurt that someone is putting out creative content, why don't you put out something better and show us all up.
@@dustinmcdermont699 I might one day but have more important matters to focus on. Eventually I will expand my training program to be online but for now I will stick to talk sh*t to people who pretend to know
If your corvette came with an LS1 5.7L (97+ models) then you can run the 799 heads off a 5.3L which are the same heads as 243s from an ls6. Then get the ls6 intake from an 01-02 LS1 camaro or firebird and add a better cam. No need to mess with you pistons other than to make sure your valves wont hit the pistons at full lift.
I just scored a small Chevy Bus, I just wanted to make a camper, well the fella said it was a 5.7, turns out it's a 6.0...so now I'm gonna have to swap out motors, that 6.0 is getting rebuilt and new top end as soon as I get to it and line up the help and throw $$ at it, it's either going in a 89 GMC Cheyenne 4x4 3/4 ton running gear or it's going into 87 Monte Carlo and a TH350 from Cooks Racing outta SC....it's got 80k miles on it. I paid $3,000 for it due to a broken rear leaf pack, and rear end housing is cracked and leaks....(I got a rear end out of a wrecked flatbed that's identical) and I'd say the axle is bent.
He's 100% correct I have a stock 5.3 in my gmc sierra 1500 and I personally know of a few people that built the up and the crank van hold something like a 1000hp but the top end is where its all restricted!
Yessir. Most people overlook compression. I’m old school. I grew up building engines. Nowadays everyone wants to slap a supercharger or turbo on. I know it’s cheap. But it’s just not the same as building your power. But if you build that engine right and then throw a turbo or supercharger on it you’re really gonna make some power.
I just got a random 04 chevy avalanche because i needed a truck for moving stuff around and i was surprised when i saw the 5.3 vortec 😂 nice 🔥 ima have to do this
@@Dr.Westside l33 has the better heads, aluminum block and a better factory cam that pulls hard to redline. When dynoed 270 rwhp was common and the thought was Chevy underrated that a bit as it most likely had 320-325hp vs the advertised 310z
Sorry if these are dumb questions, is your LS iron block truck engine, or aluminum block for car engine? Does it matter aluminum vs iron block? Thanks.
@@ctdope I have both but they are the same one is just iron one is aluminum the fuds will say only the aluminum ones are ls engines but cast iron or aluminum they are same block different material
This motor is equivalent to the chevy 327liter... short stroke crank for alot of torc from this engine... not just truck motor, it's in the tahoes also!!! You can always tell without popping the hood by looking at the VIN number and if there is a " Z " as the 7th number/letter, you have a 5.3 Vortec engine!!! Chevy installs these engines in the police packaged vehicles!!!
Keep the stock piston and add boost! Probably should replace the rings and beatings though. And new oil pump. I just came into ownership of a 1980 chevy g20 with a vortex 350. I'm getting 400hp with really simple upgrades and it's really stable.
I had 1 of these in a gmc Sierra. Which was a 03 model it had 498,000 miles on it when i sold it . The guy thought the motor had been changed . I put 1/2 of these miles on it in 5 years . Hell of a good motor and truck
Put a mild cam in a 5.3 and opened up the exhaust. Dynod 333 hp and 360 lbft at the wheels. The torque is just amazing, prduced 360 from 1300-6k rpm all the way through..
The 243 heads had smaller combustion chamber causing the compression ratio to go up, factory pistons are domed, if you put flat top pistons in they'll burn better, and the truck cam is still solid for lower end torque which goes against the pistons and heads, go with a racing style cam, nitrous, supercharged and turbo cams are all different, the racing cam with 243 heads would pump out 500 fo sho
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Shiiiiii I ran a stage 2 btr cam, 92 mm intake, jegs maf sensor and cold air intake, with a tune. Shit was nastier than porta-potty on hot summer day!
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If I ever see you in traffic I’m go the speed limit I know my cam e85 SRT8 want stand a Chance.😂😂😂
@@yrntmoney3745 stop that them Cummings deisel boys be sending yall srt guys home wit all that deisel smoke💨💨💨😂
@@nathanmoore3866 not if you got a Tahoe PPV that boy going all the way up. Flying brick. If you don't know that's the police model no top end limiter or drastically increased. I had mine at 130 and had to start backing down it's scary being that much of a brick at that speed.
@@nathanmoore3866 the whole video was about LS. Your off the map son. Not to mention the original message on the thread was talking about LS. Like you can't bring the conversation back around to the original topic man you must of been top of your class.
I put a truck noris cam in my ls2 GTO and picked up 100 HP and 125 foot pounds. They are great cams. I used the stock yellow gm springs. Rev it to 6500 and it's been in for about 2 years without and spring problems. Just so anyone is considering
I highly recommend changing those springs soon. Your valvetrain will thank you.
You should consider swapping to Ls7 lifters, they’re overall better if you wanna rev higher
You will get valve lash with those yellow springs
Maaan I don’t know bout engines but you some how manage to make me listen , keep it up 👍🏽
@@Popcorx there's no reason to be so rude
@@lamplight1636 it was a compliment Gangsta
Take it with a grain of salt. Dudes full of shit most of the time. The fact he thinks you can build an NA 5.3 with factory bore and make 500hp should tell you all you need to know.
he dont know either he just reads articles and rip off other youtube videos.. all this info been out last 80yrs if ur a real car guy you already know.... and if ur not a kid....... this guy never shows his car lol never but does all this talking bout cars
@@RTb0y954 goofy 💀
FINALLY someone giving credit to compression
Agreed, it's huge in motorcycles because engine swaps are such a pain in the ass. High comp pistons for the win 🤝
Yeah and as you raise it the higher octane you need as in racing fuel the best is to add a power adder like a turbo
@BLEACH500 as long as you can keep the cylinders cool you don't need high octane
@@gbeving3167 yes you do it wont run for shit and blow blue smoke
@BLEACH500 lol, lmao even, octane just manages temp, has nothing to do with fuel quality or energy.
You can run flat tops and deck the heads to get a bit of compression. I had a 351C SBF that was pushing 12:1 compression. I had to run premium plus two bottles of octane booster when I couldn't get race gas. I don't suggest going over 10.5:1 in a street car. You can get the power, rather easily with a good top end and cam. You also need to address the rotating weight at the dampener and flywheel if you want a motor that revs and drops rpms quickly so you can get fast shifts. It's more important to have an engine that's built right regarding good seal at the piston and valves. Beyond that it comes to flow and a complete burn
You will have to deal with the computer to achieve any timing changes on an LS engine. You can't just turn it up or down at the distributor or with an MSD kit because there is no distributor at all. Programming can help these engines out a lot.
Chuck Norris so strong he's got mechanical parts named after him
Truck Norris 😂 awesome name
Well I mean, when he entered a push-up contest, he ended up doing all of the push-ups so I'm not surprised 😂
Strong is not the intent, he's so bad not so strong
Chuck Norris sh!ts strong mechanical parts before breakfast.
Salute
But he hides from Bruce Lee 🥷🏼
we need more brothers like you
I’ve never been interested in car motors or trying to understand all the different types of shit involving a motor!!! But my boy @TBCG makes this stuff sound pretty interesting!!🤟🏽
Let me just say the knowledge you hold on LS motors is so impressive to me. Bro keep making great content
MAKE SURE YOU GET A TUNE AS WELL PEOPLE. THATS A VERY IMPORTANT PART WITH BIG CAMS.
Will this fuck up my trans
@@captainprice6465 if it's a suv or truck then yes. Have a suburban that was supercharged to 400 something HP and the trans kept getting destroyed. Now I'm running a built up 4l60e that cost a sh** ton but going to eventually swap in a 4l80e because it's actually stronger. The reason the trans gets destroyed in the larger vehicles are due to the weight of the vehicles.
Even tho the 4l60e is supposed to hold up 450-500 hp it doesn't upgrade the sunshell especially and get a reprogram kit and grab a 2500 stall torque converter as well!...I upgraded my rear end on my 03 yukon to a Detroit Truetrac worm gear posi twirling to the tune of 3:73 for towing and cruising so far so good and don't forget to get a tune!...and yes it's kinda expensive!
@@captainprice6465 Yes it will if you get down on it pretty hard, you'll eventually have to upgrade your trans👍
Need a stall converter as well or I would get a good street/strip converter TCI preferably
Boy speaking straight Spanish to me 😂😂😂 gone make me blow some sh!t up 😂
MANE WHAT??!?💀
😂😂😂me too yo I just love racing so I'm listening 😂
I did vortec swap on a 95 dakota, easy peasy, 5 grand all in with the truck that I bought for 700 just changed in a cam, gmc canyon ar5 trans and a 8.8 rear end out of a explorer with 4.10 gears..omg this thing rocks
Damn that sounds badassddd did you need adapter plates for that rear end or was it just a full bolt on ?
Also why did you choose the canyons trans ?
Jus curious
The 243 ls6 heads are the same as the 799 castings that came on some 5.3Ls like the L33 which is a rare aluminum block 5.3L with flat top pistons from the factory. So an L33 is basically a flat top piston, aluminum block, with ls6 heads. So just add a cam and swap on an LS6 intake. Which is exactly what I've done. The literal only difference between the 799 heads from a 5.3 and the LS6 243 heads is the exhaust valves on the 243s were sodium filled. I'm now contemplating adding a turbo to this engine because I love massive power and it's in a 4000lbs 2000 ZR2 S10 4x4. You could do a mild cam and ls6 intake on a stick L33 and put it in a little light weight car and it would scare the hell out of most anyone. An rx7 would be a great car for the "baby LS6"
I got a pair of 243's laying around from a tapping misfiring LS4 impala I replaced a engine in
Had an 06 GranPrix gxp that had the aluminum LS. Had a cam, rockers, throttle body, ram air, stock heads, aftermarket coils, headers and full exhaust, resonator delete, and a dyno tuned flash. The factory bottom end was fine. The stock heads were fine. It ran low 12s and ate transmissions.
Front wheel drive car, though. Torque steer was a bitch, and that stupid cylinder shutoff had to be deleted.
Was fun to smoke C5 vettes on the highway in my 4 door Pontiac, but it was 470 ish hp at the wheels. Decent torque but that POS GTP transmission was the weak point. Warranty covered 5 of them lol.
@@jameskirk3 I bet it did eat transmission.Thats the reason I didn't do any power adding mods.i got a borla exhaust and dod turned off.Four cylinder mode was shaking my steering wheel and burning oil.I hate dod so much.
I have the L33 in my 3000lb Volvo wagon.
@@barrets6226I have an l33 with a cam in my Honda s2000
Also the 6.0 is great if you can find one. A sloppy stage 2 cam package and long tube headers and you can hit 500hp that route as well without touching the bottom end
Sloppy is way better than shitnorris😂
Also if you can find a older block that's cast vs the aluminum blocks you find .. you can add more boost as well on these .
Umm. At the lower levels he's talking, take the aluminum block ALL day over the iron block.....you can make over the 1k mark before you even come close to worrying about block materials.
@bobthebuilder21247 true
@@bobthebuilder21247i have a feeling the iron block would handle more
The 243 heads don't really make any more power over the 862/706 on the small bore. Also a cheap alternative to the dome pistons you can use the 4.8 pistons.
That’s our secret, real ones know the 706 heads make better power on the 4.8/5.3s
@@blakewhite723yup 706 heads 🔥
L33 is 4.8 pistons on 5.3 rods and cranks. stock head is 243 or 706 heads. was labeled 5.3 HO for high output. block and heads are aluminum
Stock 4.8 pistons are not an alternative to a domed piston. All 4.8's had a true flat top piston, also you have to remember PtV when considering a longer duration cam with any domed piston. 243/799's are cathedral port heads but just stock aren't going to get you 500hp. 862/706's are good too but you Must put a good port in these heads, larger intake valve and a good valve job. Then the cathedral port heads Really make power especially the 243/799's with that nice short turn radius they have that the 706/862's don't really have... however they'll still get destroyed by a good CNC'd rec port head🤷🏻♂️. Have fun👍
@robertmacpeek424 this idiot meant to say "dished"
You be really giving game no cap💯💯
Did a LQ4 swapp on my 91 toyota pick up about 2 months ago. Cant wait to get it all finished.
Whats yo Instagram !
Just got a Ram 1500 sport with the 8spd auto and love this truck. Definitely thinking about 392 swap..
Appreciate these videos brother...Merry Christmas 🎄🎄
Just 500 horsepower na? With the amount of money you'd be dumping into just getting a good 392 you can dump into the 5.7 and make like 500 wheel on e85
@@jerodwolford2743 never thought about that. Definitely gonna look into it. Appreciate the info.
@@W96NZ yeah man. The 5.7s are slept on. An hrt stage 2 cam, 85mm throttle body, long tube headers, some milled heads to bump the cr with an e85 tune to take advantage of that should set you about there. I mean people gain like 100 horse at the tire just by doing long tubes and a mild cam. They're some really slept on engines. The 2003-2008 heads flow better than the ls1 and the 2009+ heads flow better than 03-08
@@jerodwolford2743 so my 2015 heads are good to go?
This is my first truck and first hemi. I just want to have fun, nothing to crazy yet. Once I'm done paying it off then I'll open her up more..
@@W96NZ so you got an eagle hemi. Again I would personally bump the compression because you're sitting at 10:1 which isn't bad at all but the reason why you see 392s gain 50 wheel with just an e85 tune is because they're running 10.9:1 compression. The 5.7s are extremely restricted engines. Take a look at your exhuast manifolds once and you'll understand what I mean. They're very very capable but nobody every really does a whole build on them. Pretty sure it was motortrend who got their hands on a 5.7 when they first came out and filed the ring gaps and threw as much boost at as they could until it grenaded. Turns out it made over 1k horsepower on stock internals.
THE VIDEO IVE BEEN PRAYING FOR!! Finna cut up in my Tahoe
You got it! Go add them horses 🐎🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Same here
"I wanna go fast" lol
Istg first thing popped in my
Head
Facts, I was thinking the same thing for my avalanche
Hey real quick, you already have an LS just need to rebuild the top end. The Z71 Tahoe 96-08 has a LS6
I would argue the only glaring restriction that came with these truck motors is the laughably weak cams that came in them. The cylinder heads are proven to be pretty damn good depending on casting and at most would require a milling and porting job to be fine for street use. The truck intake manifolds outflow the LS1 and 6 manifolds, and is only really topped by the TBSS intake if you’re only looking at factory manifolds. That being said, a H/C/I Vortec is still a nasty combo for just about any vehicle you could drop it in.
Good shit man u got the best combos!!
Thankyou brother!
Truck intakes have been proven time and time again to flow better then LS intake manifolds.
I am going add volant air intake should I get LS6 manifold
I have yukon 5.3 v8 2008
Lsxrt and tbss are definitely good intakes. Port the tbss or Dorman and you're good
The heads are fine the truck Norris will be the best . Intake use the tbss unless it’s in a car then the hood won’t fit . Other than that your going to be extremely close to 500 mark add headers and cutouts and you will easy make 500 . You don’t need the valve springs but it’s a nice addition . Also you don’t need to touch the block at all and if it’s a gen 4 block cast iron your golden . And again the head are fine
I have yukon 5.3 v8 2008
What should I get to reach 500 hp
Thanks a lot
Truck intakes actually fit under the hood of many cars just not f-body's or vette's...
If you leave your 5.3 vortec stock, you'll get 500,000 miles out of it with proper maintenence. One of the best engines I've ever owned! But yes, if you want to upgrade horse power, this man is correct. Either way, treat your 5.3 good, it'll do the same to you.
Exactly I’ve got an 08 Grand Prix GXP with 5.3 just hit 200000 changed valve cover gaskets and when I pulled them off damn I thought it was a brand new engine clean as hell even under the valve covers runs like brand new to no problem
I had one that I did maintenance religiously on it an it lasted me 145ish something to do with the crank went bad
My 99 Silverado Z-71 5.3 has over 300,000 miles and it’s still going very strong.
@@treecutter116my Honda Civic SI just hit 200k , I've done a starter, plugs and coil packs, cv axles , and reg maintenance, had the same clutch for 100k mi, the car is insanely reliable.
@@dioad1739awesome! My 97 had 298 on it when I sold it. Ordered my 15 LTZ 5.3 now has 148k ☹️ runsike new... I put a k&n intake on it day 1, love hearing it breathe. I did just get er towed to the dealership (I work at a Chevy dealership) my buddy had it for an hour and called & says "you're ready"..... Bent push rod and broken valve spring. That and collapsed lifter on non afm side a year ago. Trans at 103k 🤨 but to me it's still a new truck. Looks like it too, and I drive the hell out of it. I am not a slow & terrified driver. I like to be moving. Kills me anymore it's like NO ONE under 25 understands what the left lane is. LET'S GO!
But yeah the GM 5.3L is bulletproof. For the most part. The 6.2l is a monster and I do sometimes regret not ordering it. It's the only new vehicle ever purchased.
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Actually it's been proven by Richard Holdner that the stock 706 heads make more power on these engines while staying N/A because they have the smallest combustion chamber than 243 or 799. They bump up compression, just mill them down .30 or .40 thousands
I was waiting on someone to say this.. 706 can get the job done.
I heard this intake robs 100hp on snidertron channel Using blower..
@@badassbees3680 just the ls6 intake itself gives it better flow,
Facts, Richard Holdener should be considered a national treasure.
RH has the videos, combos, & dyno info to give you the info for almost any combo!
@@badassbees3680. The LS1, & LM4 have the weakest factory flow numbers, LS6 are very good intakes.
Aldo, you want to pick the correct intake manifold based on your cam, & the rpm you plan on running.
Sure needed to see this video this weekend. I went back stock everything
All I need is 381 horse power, like my Toyota Tundra. Gasoline is to high for 500hp. I'm just going to Walmart, Family Dollars, Church and Churches Chicken.
The 5.7 Tundra does not have 381 horsepower lol.
Yes it does
It also gets about 12mpg lol
@@beretta8633 These are flywheel numbers and not what the truck actually produces.
@@calebniederhofer6529yea it does 🤦♂️it produces 381.. at the flywheel he didn’t say WHP. He said HP.
Hell yeah bro knows what’s up 🤘 my buddy did this exact set up and it is 🔥🔥 puts my truck to shame 😂😭
I’ve had my 03 Silverado for 18 years now. I think it’s time for something
Like this .
You can do it make that mf a beast
I got 4 of these engines. You make me wanna rip and build. You make lots of sense when you speak. Thanks bro, appreciate ya
Got that chuck Norris package whooping ass in them streets 🤣🤣🤣
How much did all that cost?
@Tenasedeinc I had a truck norris cam kit with springs, 243 heads and flat top pistons installed on a fresh built 5.3 and it ran me about $4500. That was pre covid so I'm sure it's higher now. It's a fun motor and runs like a striped ape
@@D--5 I want to put that motor in a scion and boost it
@@D--5I have yukon 5.3 v8 2008
What should I get to reach 500 hp
Thanks a lot
@kingsupra5023 To get 500 at the crank my build above but with milled heads or domed pistons for higher compression might get you close but for over 450hp at the crank I'd be strongly considering a supercharger or turbo kit. I'd consider upgrading from the stock transmission and rear end after that build if you haven't already
This man always giving ideas on the exact fucking cars and trucks we soup up
Bought all the parts . Who tf gone install them for me now 💀
Urself it’s free
Honestly tho. People need to start trying it themselves. Yes. Engines are a little complex. But all it is, is some bolts after all. Do yourself a favour and do a crap ton of research. Get a proper click type torque wrench and look up the torque spec for every bolt. There’s countless videos on TH-cam for just about every part on every vehicle. Learn some stuff and have fun. And when it all comes together at the end, knowing you did it yourself makes it fell a thousand times more rewarding.
yourself goofy.
@@matthewcurrie5963 i like the encouragement to do it themselves but if I may add to what you said & argue that it’s not just some bolts its a machine that must be comprehended in it’s entirety in order to learn properly what I mean by that is don’t just add mods because you researched what mods make your car faster understand and look deeper into why it is that kid made it faster. In the end you’ll realize it’s just fire. The more you can get the engine to produce without it blowing up the faster it’ll be. But theory can get you really far, so yes work on your motor but also read
@@iborincon yeah. I’ve always thought that way too. “Car guys” will say just turbo charge it or super charge it to go faster. But most of them don’t actually know anything about it other then one whines and one whistles. They don’t know about the mechanics behind it. What the failure points are. And and all the inner workings
Yeah bro,you’re most def doing your thing!💪🏽💯
I love these videos bro ima broke ass running a 100hp grocery get-er I been working on moding lmao. but if I ever get out this broke life these videos will have helped me decide what vehicle and engine will be my next project
*Cries in 5.5:1 Flathead compression*
You are gold... Keep the builds alive.
Saving this video for when I have money.
What I said😭
My man is a wealth of car knowledge
Like the videos mayne gives prop to every single thing good God sent us like383 strokers and the LS keep it up awesome work
That’s kind of awesome you’re smart, intelligent and he’s funny and some videos that he has much love and respect brother
Good advice…spot on.
Thatll give you 500 hp to the crank, which means like 400-420 hp to the wheels
mine 412 at wheel
Get lighter wheels, it robs less power then heavy wheels, this includes big heavy rotors.
@@joselozano0528They could also look at a carbon driveshaft, or aluminum if on a budget
With a Truck Norris cam?
All he needs is 150shot, he would make 500hp with less than 500bucks.
I have that stock engine in my 1500 Chevy 2006. thanks for the idea
Stock 5.3 is
290 to 300 hp
330 to 350 ft. Lb.
Depending on the year.
I have a 2002 GMC sierra 1500 pick up truck with a 5.3 Vortec V8. But in the manual book online says somewhere between 285 to 325 hp and I think the V6 one is at 285 hp and I think my truck is rated at 305 hp
original 5.3 in 1999 was 270. but would run 350k miles.
I have a 09 saab 9-7x 5.3i and it makes 300hp and 321tq
@@weimaraners4822 that's awesome. Is it a drop top? That sounds like a cool ride. I've seen a guy with a jag and one with a Volvo station wagon. Both with 5.3 swaps. Station wagon was a donut machine.
@@sherrokinchen52534.8 make 285 5.3 made 305
I agree with you on all except the cam. There are better options that will give you a better curve and take advantage of the heads.
4.8 pistons fit the 5.3 and are flat tops. They give a good compression bump for a stock part swap. Its the cheaper option.
Broddy BEEN giving us elite tutorials
I drive a stock 01 Suburban.
5.3L might not be the beefiest LS engine but it's powerful and the most reliable engine of the fuel injected era.
Love this thing!
Same but yukon xl 2002. My favorite vehicle. So affordable and such a predictable maintenance schedule!!
@@yogiballa I have an 02 Yukon xl as well and it’s been to multiple mechanics including myself and I can’t figure out what’s wrong with it! Runs rough and goes through way too much gas. Changed injectors plugs wires fixed exhaust leaks. I know it’s a solid motor but I’m just stumped 🤦♂️
@@devyngulick5373 did you check the o2 sensors?
Also these years of trucks are known for problems with electric grounding, maybe there is something there.
True. Nearly the whole drive-train on my '03 has been replaced besides the engine. That's because I drive it hard, but it's almost at 200k now. Gas mileage is a fucking nightmare though
I have yukon 5.3 v8 2008
What should I get to reach 500 hp
Thanks a lot
Congratulation. You're the first guy who's ever talked about 5.3 and how to increase horsepower. What does it do to the rear end? Especially if you have tow haul mode and the rear end towing package?
Mane I HATE TH-cam shorts dudes. But you got some original content and actually make this format interesting instead of mindless scrolling
Im workin on my 2000 Burban right now..... So far it's got dual exhaust with K&N cold air induction and I polished the throttle body....
So far.......
I've got an LQ9 6 liter with flat top Pistons I plan to swap into it too.
I don’t know what bro be saying really 😂 but he got me wanting to learn he would make a great teacher cause you can learn and laugh.
Bro you give badass advice straight up and talking about changing the Pistons to make 500 horsepower
Bro falls for the advertisers hp numbers you need more than that to run 500hp
@@kylelaughinghouse1893I have yukon 5.3 v8 2008
What should I get to reach 500 hp
Thanks a lot
You can also take the flat tops out of a 4.8L and gen4 rods out of a 5.3L with the same set up @TBCG AND achieve the same results
?? Say that again for me it got my attention
@@Rellderrick7774.8 engines had flat top pistons factory. 5.3 had small dish in the top of the pistons. 4.8 and 5.3 have the exact same bore size. increase compression half a point.
@@bobbobby1846 99-06 4.8 trucks?
This my new favorite channel
Lol I got one of those sitting in the driveway in a 2002 regular cab Silverado. Runs great as a Chevy of that era should but boy is it a casualty of rust. Sat for 6 years in a field but didn’t take much to get it started.
This man is a genius
Lol. I take it your not a mechanic 😅
@BlackandWhiteCustoms lol I take it you have no idea wtf your talking about either... or else you would drop some specific knowledge. 🤣
I have been in magazines and have numerous trophies on my builds and have car coming out in lowrider magazine this Jan. This guy isn't a builder and anyone that knows about cars can clearly tell but when you have limited intellignce on a subject anyone can spit some regurgitated B's and you will think he is a genius. Let's see him talk about bearing clearances and or balancing and blueprinting a motor. Everything he says is just basic stuff google will give you when you do a quick search
@BlackandWhiteCustoms instead of being so butthurt that someone is putting out creative content, why don't you put out something better and show us all up.
@@dustinmcdermont699 I might one day but have more important matters to focus on. Eventually I will expand my training program to be online but for now I will stick to talk sh*t to people who pretend to know
Cam, heads, intake huge improvement. Don't forget about the tranny and tail shaft.
I have yukon 5.3 v8 2008
What should I get to reach 500 hp
Thanks a lot
Gonna do this to my 5.7 in my Corvette
Bro i got the c5 and an 08 sierra I saw this and my ears perked up like an old man who just popped a Cialis pill.
If your corvette came with an LS1 5.7L (97+ models) then you can run the 799 heads off a 5.3L which are the same heads as 243s from an ls6. Then get the ls6 intake from an 01-02 LS1 camaro or firebird and add a better cam. No need to mess with you pistons other than to make sure your valves wont hit the pistons at full lift.
@@jonathanhudson4623 sounds like a much better cheap option for my car, appreciate it stranger!
This Brother hits Everytime 😜👍👍
Stock bottom end can handle 1000hp no problem
Some
Man this dude build a race car I'm putting erytang and the kitchen sink on that bet dudes a beast and come along way 1love bruh 1unitity
I just scored a small Chevy Bus, I just wanted to make a camper, well the fella said it was a 5.7, turns out it's a 6.0...so now I'm gonna have to swap out motors, that 6.0 is getting rebuilt and new top end as soon as I get to it and line up the help and throw $$ at it, it's either going in a 89 GMC Cheyenne 4x4 3/4 ton running gear or it's going into 87 Monte Carlo and a TH350 from Cooks Racing outta SC....it's got 80k miles on it. I paid $3,000 for it due to a broken rear leaf pack, and rear end housing is cracked and leaks....(I got a rear end out of a wrecked flatbed that's identical) and I'd say the axle is bent.
Me taking down these notes even tho I don’t have a license
He's 100% correct I have a stock 5.3 in my gmc sierra 1500 and I personally know of a few people that built the up and the crank van hold something like a 1000hp but the top end is where its all restricted!
I love this black car guru. He really has it going on. And if I had a black car I would definitely want him to work on it.
Yessir. Most people overlook compression. I’m old school. I grew up building engines. Nowadays everyone wants to slap a supercharger or turbo on. I know it’s cheap. But it’s just not the same as building your power. But if you build that engine right and then throw a turbo or supercharger on it you’re really gonna make some power.
Do 4th gen LS ,my 4th is about to get a 7675 put in it right now,i just got sniper efi rails for it
I just got a 31 Ford rat rod. I subscribed because I need these videos to figure out what motor I should put in it.
What happened to the rest of the video?? I was intrigued.
TH-cam realized that the 5.3 recipe he was giving out, was nastier than watching your granny give a lap dance, so they clipped it.
Pistons. Hes saying that bottom end is garbage basically... boost it!
There was nothing else to watch. BTR cam, 243 heads, dome pistons, LSXrt intake.
😂 black car guru is the man !
I just got a random 04 chevy avalanche because i needed a truck for moving stuff around and i was surprised when i saw the 5.3 vortec 😂 nice 🔥 ima have to do this
I got 465, 970 miles on my vortex now and it's still running pretty good so far. I got to freshen it up soon before it crashed on me
I'm amazed at how much this dude knows about motors .. well said sir.. dang
Can you do one on the 99-04 lightning 5.4?
Ls swap it. Only way a ford will go fast
Twin tubo it .That 5.3 with those low compression pistons are perfect for turbos.
Shit they touched 300hp back in 05 with the l33 😂
The lm7 was at 295 horsepower
@@Dr.Westside l33 has the better heads, aluminum block and a better factory cam that pulls hard to redline. When dynoed 270 rwhp was common and the thought was Chevy underrated that a bit as it most likely had 320-325hp vs the advertised 310z
Im gonna do it! 1970 Impala 4 dr. I didnt want to deal with a turbo. Thanks for the info man.
This avalanche bout to get down and dirty....
Stock 5.3 bottom with 706 head stock pistons btr ls3 stage 4 NA cam 500+hp done it already
Bs
@@zackross1320 nope my exact build was used in a Richard holdener video 3yrs ago. How much nitrous on a 5.3. I sent him my build and he used it
@@zackross1320.I agree with Xavier, check out some RH videos.
Sorry if these are dumb questions, is your LS iron block truck engine, or aluminum block for car engine? Does it matter aluminum vs iron block? Thanks.
@@ctdope I have both but they are the same one is just iron one is aluminum the fuds will say only the aluminum ones are ls engines but cast iron or aluminum they are same block different material
He spitting bar's, camshafts and headers
Thanks. Great insight and knowledge.
Have any suggestions for the 6.0 or the 8.0
Fr we need one for a 6.0
Not positive but I believe the 8.0 isn't on the ls platform but the same setup in the video should work on the 6.0 as well..
Yea, don't buy 8.0. The aftermarket sucks for them.
Thanks for this info.
500hp all motor ford edition lets hear it
I love this dude has content is so awesome keep it up
Solid advice but I didn't hear you out the stress on upgrade the trunion upgrade you gotta do to all the rockers on it, no pin bearings
In high school a s10 with a vortex’s motor was the truth or the hard body Nissan truck with the KA-24 in it. Man the good ole days of mini trucking
Such wonderful content ❤👍
This motor is equivalent to the chevy 327liter... short stroke crank for alot of torc from this engine... not just truck motor, it's in the tahoes also!!! You can always tell without popping the hood by looking at the VIN number and if there is a " Z " as the 7th number/letter, you have a 5.3 Vortec engine!!! Chevy installs these engines in the police packaged vehicles!!!
Keep the stock piston and add boost! Probably should replace the rings and beatings though. And new oil pump.
I just came into ownership of a 1980 chevy g20 with a vortex 350. I'm getting 400hp with really simple upgrades and it's really stable.
I had 1 of these in a gmc Sierra. Which was a 03 model it had 498,000 miles on it when i sold it . The guy thought the motor had been changed . I put 1/2 of these miles on it in 5 years . Hell of a good motor and truck
Thanks homie love your shit always
Good to hear a young man knows engines.
Can't find technicians to work on cars that would take it seriously for a profession.
Put a mild cam in a 5.3 and opened up the exhaust. Dynod 333 hp and 360 lbft at the wheels.
The torque is just amazing, prduced 360 from 1300-6k rpm all the way through..
The 243 heads had smaller combustion chamber causing the compression ratio to go up, factory pistons are domed, if you put flat top pistons in they'll burn better, and the truck cam is still solid for lower end torque which goes against the pistons and heads, go with a racing style cam, nitrous, supercharged and turbo cams are all different, the racing cam with 243 heads would pump out 500 fo sho
I NEED THE REST OF THIS LIST IM BUILDING A 5.3 as we speak for my new edge mustang swap
“Truck Norris cams” clever naming😩🤣
Very informative information now I'mma need you to get to Kansas City Missouri and put it in the caprice LoL