They're designed for Drafting and 3D Modeling software users, which is why they're in business-aimed small footprint OptiPlex models. I think my old PC at work had this GPU, and I loved how well it handled hard workloads.
@@MrEdioss or new retail cards. Like how the RX 460, RX 6600 XT, RTX 3050 and RTX 4060 Ti have 8 lanes and the GT 1030 and RX 6500 XT have only 4 lanes. Meanwhile a stinky HD 6450 or GT 210 come with full 16 lanes.
I have always felt doing this was a low point in my IT career. far more convenient than removing the bracket entirely and having it flop about in the slot! - I mean, what else can you do?
@@Anthrocarbon Glad my test-junk-case (InWin 303) doesn't have any of those to start with lol. if you remove all the blank slot covers it's just a giant gaping hole, intended to make installing a vertical mount easier... (which I always found dumb because that then blocks ALL other slots, vs the IMHO better option of dedicated vertical slots in the case)
I still have my R7 250X here, originally supposed to be for me secondary system, but that got my old 660 Ti once I grabbed a 1060 Still a fine card. Good old AMD Finewine. Got mine from the default 1000 MHz GPU 1100 MHz/4500 MT memory to 1100 MHz GPU 1337 MHz/5348 MT memory. The memory would go a bit higher, but I found it much funnier to be able to say my chips run at 1337 MHz.
Nice cards🙂. I even have my old MSi HD 3650 with 512MByte GDDR2 and MSi Cyclone HD6850 1GByte GDDR5 on my shelf as decorations. I only find out where the bios switch on my Cyclone was after I upgraded it 😅
Odd coincidence, I am building an ultra budget system with this today. Snagged this card, supermicro motherboard, X3460 Xeon, beat up case, Dell 200W PSU, and 16GB of DDR3 from a scrap pile. Add $15 for a 256GB SSD and it's a perfectly usable light gaming PC.
Dude, you can get a E3 1240 V3 with a motherboard for less than $30 used in most cases. Pair them with your memory, PSU and ram and you have a very respectful budget build.
The GTX 750 Ti also hold's its value because it's not actually a 700 series card. It's a 900 series card wearing a funny hat and a trench coat. Which means that its still supported by the latest nvidia 560 drivers on windows and linux. Where as most of the 700 series lost support a few years ago.
I'd recommend looking at the Quardo versions, the K620 sips power, the K1200 is a great SFF card, and the K2200 is basically a full 750Ti with 4GB, and they're all dirt-cheap because it was the base option for workstations.
I have one of those sat in its box waiting for a power supply . Used it as my main for about 7 years (don't play new games) and still works as good as the day i brought it.
If you get one for $5, this is fabulous. The lowest price I can see is like $20 for a 2gb full height OEMmodel, though - I'd step up the budget to 30-40 and get an RX 550 instead, the OEM version of that is basically an iteration on this card - 512 shaders, 4GB GDDR5 VRAM, but GCN 4.0. It's about 33% more price for 33% more performance, basically.
A FirePro W5100 can be had for around $30, has 4GB GDDR5 and 768 GCN 2.0 cores. It is roughly equivalent to the Xbox One iGPU in performance so it should run pretty much anything that runs on an Xbox One. The real price for an R7 450 4GB in the US is $30 or more. The W5100 is 50% more powerful and about 3% behind a GT1030. The W5100 supports feature level 12.0, whereas the R7 450 only supports 11.1
I scored an old OEM RX 550 4GB low profile card off a junked Dell next to a dumpster. That's right, a friggin' DUMPSTER. It outperforms an Nvidia GT 1030 2GB low profile card while only maxing out at only 50W. I've kept it around as a backup for budget builds.
I got a dell next to a dumpster too😂😂😂😂 but the video card was removed, and the cpu is an intel core i3-4130. The pc is ok for basic web stuff but not gaming due to not having a dedicated GPU.
It's annoying what people will throw away. I found a perfectly functional Playstation 3 sitting next to a dumpster. Then a month later, I found a third party Playstation controller next to a trash can. I even found some games somebody was throwing out, unfortunately, those were for PS4.
Reminds me of the ATI Radeon HD 5450, sorry i mean the HD 6290, oh my bad it's actually the 7350...oh no wait, the 8350...actually wait, the R5 220 Also, the legendary Nvidia ION...wait, it's actually an 8400...or is it the 9300....or the well known 210 !!...wait it's more of a 310...or maybe even a 405! NO, the 505!! Could probably list many more, but the list is too long hehe
@@darthwiiziusbratan it was just a joke, its all fun and games. It's a fun card, but many have a history as such, reuaed. The damb 210 wa sold till like 2020, of not more. Then the 710 took over, which is basically a 210 ofnits ewra
Remember that there were 3 versions of the 8400 GS One with a G86 chip and decent budget performance One with a G98 chip and half the performance And one with a GT218 chip and again reduced performance and cut down memory bus. The 9300 GS is the one identical to the second 8400 GS The 205 is identical to the third 8400 GS (the 210 and 310 are closer to the first 8400 GS, but on GT218) But my favorite example is the GT 730, because that is a card still seen in some "gaming" rigs on the used market today. Three models: One with a GK208 and 64-bit DDR3 One with GK208 and 64-bit GDDR5 (if for whatever reason you'd want one, this is the one to get) And one with GF108 and 128-bit DDR3 (don't get fooled by the 128-bit interface, it's still slower than the 64-bit GDDR5 on the second model, plus the GPU is about 60% slower) GK208 is also used in the GT 630, 635 and 640, the latter of which was even a decent performing midrange budget card. But GF108 was originally used in the GT 440, then reused as GT 530, then GT 630 and finally GT 730 But the card I totally want to get is a GT 420. I'd pair it with an Athlon II X3 420e and a 120 GB SSD and 300 GB HDD for 420 GB total storage. Won't be able to give it 4.2 GB RAM, but could get as close as I can get. And if that doesn't tell what the purpose is, let's just say I want to build a meme machine with a specific theme.
9400 gt I have two. I really have good feelings in two and keep those two for battle field...? I also have 8400 gs low profile ... I don't know I keep it and love it after he said dodgy graphics card
I also own a similar OEM R7 250 2GB I bought used on ebay for about $20 about 2 years ago. I put it in an Ivy Bridge SFF computer I found on the sidewalk and use it in my HTPC for couch co-op games. With appropriate settings I could play Mordor: Shadow of War at 30 fps. And my card is tier below the one featured here. Weirdly my R7 250 overclocks significantly and the benchmarks show a nice ~15% GPU uplift.
@@sajanator3 It runs Overcooked 2 at 60 fps @ 1080p, no problem. Though in the US, a AMD WX4100 4GB might be a better choice if you have $50 to spend on a SFF HTPC setup. As that card is basically a RX 560!
My most interesting 5$ gpu find was 9500 GT Mac Edition (esentially 9500 for mac computers), works so well it would run War Thunder in 720p at 25fps. Final drivers on 9000 series are something.
AMD did all that whacky stuff with renames, and rereleases, and rebadges back in the day. Selling a GCN 1 card after 2 and 3 and Polaris were all out is just super AMD of that era. I miss the days when AMD was releasing whacky old stuff renamed all of the time. Now the most interesting thing in the stack was that they are still technically selling small amount of Polaris cards to chinese ecafes and because of it you can still buy brand new 580's to this day.
nVidia did the same. They both kept reusing the same cards again and again, especially in the lowend. Just look through the use of Fermi and even Tesla cards in their Kepler generations.
This is the LATAM/SEA special. This and a second/third gen i5 (or even a modded 775 xeon) you can get a turbo budget gaming PC for less than $40 perfect for your little cousin's first gaming experience.
I still have a modded LGA771 Xeon here. In fact, I'm writing this on the very machine. And for a long time it had the big brother of the HD 7750/R7 450 in it, a HD 7770/R7 250X And my main rig is indeed an i5-3570K, because I haven't encountered anything so far that I want to play that it can't run. Well except for a 2013 MMO that is insanely CPU intensive.
Speaking of those outlandish 2 slot coolers for the 7750, it'd be interesting to see if you can push the card further with a different cooler - I'd imagine the screw holes on the PCB have changed with the beefier GDDR RAM arrangement, but maybe not?
I'm an experienced overclocker, lower temperatures don't increase overclocking headroom on older GPUs, because it only lowers the tdp of the card and doesn't affect the voltage level, which affects maximum clocks. Quite contrary with higher temperatures I had more stability at negligibly higher clocks. Modern cards are quite limited by tdp nowadays, so lower temps means higher voltage, same tdp. Unless it has some voltage control, which most of the cards that need overclock to be relevant don't have, it's just a longevity investment against chip desoldering itself and loosing contact or simple clock degradation.
I had a faulty gt 640 of which I took the heatsink to use in a r5 240, the screws were the same distance so I was able to push to the max with the Radeon Bios Editor, from 800/1075 to 1350/1400 with +100mv. Also tested 1425 core with +175mv but it wasnt really stable
Quite a lot of LP GPUs have the same Cooler Mount Screw Spacing plus comon with their Full hieght version even between AMD & nVIDIA, the difference if any is usually PCB Layout causing a problem with either varying distance from Core to the I/O or SMD Clearance
@@MrEdioss I remember when changing voltage was as easy ad flashing a modded bios. Got my 7300 GT from 400 MHz to 640 MHz that way. Ran absolutely stable and could rival a 7600 GS. And lowend cards tend to not run into big TDP issues. they often just go for 50 or 75W and call it a day. And even that is something that could be changed on earlier cards. I threw 1.21v and 170W on my 660 Ti and got it to run stable at 1242 MHz instead of it's stock 980 Mhz. But obviously they have to lock everything down nowadays. At least tinkering with the current sense resistors is still possible.
That´s the point. The upgrade cycles are coming too fast for me and I left this train a decade ago. My three machines are all 10+ years old, but they are doing their job. Indeed my treshold is 1080p but I don´t need more. That´s why I love videos with testing old hardware and budget builds! 🤗 send from a Lenovo Core 2 Quad 9550 with Radeon 7770 - the daily machine.
Same thing here, except I had a newer system and switched back to an older one. I usually just run win 7 or XP and linux as I am not a fan of win 11, but with mods it would be usable. I love core 2 duos and quads they are the best CPUs intel ever made, and pre 2008 boards have no intel me! Socket 775 and socket AM2/AM3/FM1 are definitely the best platforms ever made!
The upgrade cycles have already slowed down a lot. I remember when your 6 month old CPU was already too slow for the newest games and your 9 months old graphics card had already a full successor generation out. Nowadays you can run fine with a 3+ year old CPU and GPU cycles are closer to 18 months.
always love seeing a new one of your videos! many people post a "budget pc" video but its over 500 quid! so seeing your sub £1 builds and bargain and hidden finds like this is always a loverly watch!
Basically sold to OEM:s as the "Hey it's better than an I-GPU" option.. Honestly, an impressive display of getting rid of excess stock on AMD:s part, if you ask me.
These runs of respun cards are well past trying to get rid of old inventory. At this point, they have had to make additional runs of the GPU ASICs, or someone has. I wouldn't be surprised if they had licensed their older GPU cores to a third party to have them get wafers made instead.
@@GGigabiteM It is built on an old fabrication process. It wasn't very expensive to have TSMC crank out a few of these with the 28 nm fab when everyone wanted the newer 16 and 14 nm cards.
As a more hardcore method, use windows' file permissions. Disable permission inheritance and remove all its inherited permisisons (don't convert them), add a new permission entry user named "everyone" and only give it permission to read the file, nothing else. Even if a game runs as administrator (which they should never do), it can't change anything about the file, just read it. Hell.. *you yourself* can't change the file afterwards either, not even with administrator rights. You need to manually change the permissions back to allow the file to be modified. It truly is "read only" in this state. The basic "read only" checkmark in the file properties is more of a suggestion than something that is enforced, unlike the permissions
Being 8 days after this video posted, you cannot buy these cards off of eBay for less than $40 with shipping. Even the prices shown in his video are not $5, and you have to pay for shipping. It's still an interesting card. Once you are at the $40/50 price, you can buy a used RX 480 off of Marketplace which is MUCH better
I remember my OEM R9 255 from the prebuilt my parents bought me. I bought an r9 370 for super cheap a few months after getting it, which lasted me until like 2016 actually.
One of those weird upper-lowend to lower-midrange cards that run surprisingly well. Other cards that could punch much above their weight were the Geforce 4 Ti 4200, Radeon 9600 Pro, Geforce 7300 GT, Radeon HD 5770, Geforce GTX 750 Ti, Radeon RX 470, and to a degree the 8800 GT (but that was a highend card for a midrange price. I'd totally buy a RTX 4075 that beats a 4080 Super for 500€ today)
Welp. If I ever have all my GPUs die for some random reason and I don't have a backup GPU or all my setups die. I think I now know what to get now. This definitely came as a surprise and it's great to know about it cause I use Linux mainly and any AMD card from HD 7000 series to at least RX 5000 series work for all my applications and different distros. Great to know these are such a low cost and will now be something to get in at least my budget XD. Thanks for the videos as always. It has been making my week every week you post a video. Plus I rewatch your videos alot and these recent ones have been awesome to rewatch. Thank you for that man.
I enjoyed this episode so much, had a 7790 that was quite powerful like a 7850, got it for dirt cheap, quite close to base PS4 gpu, got rebranded and became the R9, 260, 265, R7 365 I think, and they just kept on selling it
3:07 that rebranding history of the cards is mind boggling 😅😆 Fair play for doing that research fella. Respect to you because that's extensive! Cool card, especially considering its small form factor. I got a similar card, the R5 340X which isn't bad either. Uses even less power and it can run some games which I never thought would even load on it. Like Crach N Sane Trilogy, only you have to put the resolution to that of the original xbox 576p 🤣
I had a 7750 in a secondary PC back in the day. Great little card even with only 1 GB GDDR5. Makes sense that it saw revision after revision being the fastest original GCN chip that didn't require external power making it an apt for high production, easy upgrade for basic desktop PCs. First gen GCN was so awesome for it's time, not to mention long lasting. Probably my favorite Radeon architecture.
Definitely worth checking out the RX 640 if you want to see what OEM cut down Polaris can do. The Polaris 23 XT performs fairly well enough and they're dropping in price. Oddly enough it's launch date overlaps the EOL for the R7 450 so there was a strange time where you could probably order up a configuration with either card. The 640 has 7-11 driver support as well and 10/11 drivers are still getting updates for it.
Great little card! 8 hours after uploading, I immediately went to see if the prices were really that low...and I can't find them for under 30-40 euros. What gives? Everyone started buying them up right after your video? Damn...
At this moment, I have three of this card on my shelf (full height versions only) and a light gaming build with a Xeon E3-1225v2 (i5-3470) and 16gb of RAM. Makes a really nice light gaming build that doesn't need a PCI-e power connection. One of my absolute favorite budget gaming cards.
The temperature is a clear result from clocking it so high (and thus throwing in lots of voltage) and pairing it with a tiny cooler. I had a passive 7300 GT way back in the day and could get a massive 60% overclock and 15°C lower temps by tying an 80mm case fan to it and using plastic shims to increase the mounting pressure. I also had a 8800 GT, and that thing it 103°C in games. Can thank the single slot blower cooler for that. And again case fans came to rescue. This time two fans and they dropped temps by about 30°C For the R7 450 going either for a second slot or full height, or both should do a lot. Perhaps even just replacing the small fan with a bigger one or having one blast at the card from the side.
2012 when I built my first actual budget gaming pc I got HD7770 1GB paired with FX-4170 and 2x4GB RAM. Man that setup with clean windows install could play BF3 Ultra back in the day, tho I settled on High settings for smoother 60fps :P
Isn't that the same cooler they threw on the OEM RX 550's? Lord those things would get HHHot!! The AIB's version of the RX 550, never even broke a sweat.
I had the 2 GB HP version (R9 M360) during the COVID/mining pandemic. I got it for ~$40 since nobody knew what it was, and it was able to run everything I wanted to play then, which were mostly older games and turn-based RPGs ported from consoles. It was a time when GTX 750 and R9 370 were going for well over $100, and anything Polaris and newer (mining-capable) was $300+, so $40 for this thing was an amazing bargain in comparison.
Great video as always, Budget! You inspired me to sort out my cable management and switching fans inside the case lol But seriously, no other channel relaxes me more in times of anxiety Much love from Poland ❤️ Martha
I bought some of these a couple months ago, when I saw those specs at that price point I realized that I stumbled on a hidden gem! Nice to see it getting some more attention.
I have one of these as my backup test card. It’s very confusing though, there’s like a million variants of this thing and it’s been rebranded a million times. Mine reads as an m360 as well. Paste was dry as a bone so I replaced it which helped. Mine is the full height one from hp. Branded as a 340x or something
great job cex, you saw this video, ran out of stock and bumped the price up by £10 and ebay is going nuts i wish people and businesses didnt react this way to this kind of information
No one will buy them and the price will collapse as the greedy sellers desperately try to cut their losses. Newer, faster cards sell for the same price now, the only selling point of these were "it's cheap".
yeah, i hope that comes sooner rather than later, it sucks when people do it thinking they're gonna make a bargain reselling them at values higher than what they're actually worth
Could be an interesting card on a main linux system as the desktop GPU, and then a modern one for gaming with GPU passthrough for a windows virtual machine... Since a 5800X3D has no integrated GPU, it can be a real option for cheap without requiring additionnal power from the power supply. I'll entertain that thought for some time.
Nvidia did a similar thing with GF108 from the Fermi architecture. GF108 was a entry-middle level Fermi GPU manufactured with TSMC's 40 nm process and sold under GeForce 400 series. Then, GF108 was used as an entry level offering at GeForce 500, 600 and 700 series. With GeForce 700 and 800 series, GF108 has undergone a die shrink from TSMC 40 nm to TSMC 28 nm and was renamed to GF117. GF117 was available under GeForce 700 and 800 series. GF108 and GF117 cards only differentiated in core clocks, TDP, manufacturing process and amount of VRAM. GF108 was on sale between 2010-2016 and GF117 was on sale between 2012-2016.
I actually have 2 of these from when i worked in IT. Systems were getting retired so i grabbedd em (was allowed to). Was super suprised when i saw the 4gb of ram and ran some games with them. Honestly a pretty cool little card for the price
These cards are pretty neat. I remember seeing them offered by dell working for a school at the time. We were doing the bottom end Quadros.. which were actually pretty ass at the lowest end.. this thing actually would have been a decent upgrade.. at least for gaming.
oooh, ok, so, it seems there's no R7 450 available for shipping to Brazil atm, (except for one which's selling for R$289, whichs too much and above the budget) but I'll keep not just one, but my both eyes on it and see if I can find one for a friend of mine (he's on a 3rd gen i3 with no dedicated GPU, and wanna upgrade it with an i5 or i7 + GPU), just wow. Nice video and holy crap, that's some really great performance, and yeah, the 750TI do is one of the options being considered, hah
@@HappyBeezerStudios yeah tbh we've been looking mostly at benchmarks with actual tests on games for reference, because they're more important than technicalities, and this R7 450 actually performed kinda similarly to a GTX 550TI on that regard. Also, old AMD cards are pretty rare here in Brazil, 2006~2010 cards are rare and usually expensive, ebay isn't usable and aliexpress is suffering from a taxing of 97% at $50+ purchases. Aliexpress stuff are still more affordable than local, used parts. The R7 450 specifically was something I didn't know about until now. People in here nowadays try to sell old Pentium and Celerons (with motherboards) for R$300~800, NDS and PS2's for R$600+ despite the ps2 being the best selling console, not only in the entire world, but also here in Brazil, so some rules are kinda twisted around here. It's cheaper to buy a 3rd gen i5 on aliexpress than to buy an used Core2Quad here on my city. São Paulo is less worse in that regard, but yeah... That sucks
The R9 270 usies the Pitcarin XT chip, which was indeed used in the HD 7870, but also in the HD 8870 The 370 also uses Pitcairn, but in the Pro version. The 370X uses the XT So the R7 370 and OEM-only R9 370 are the same as the R7 265 and HD 7850, they skipped the 8000 series on that one for some reason.
I've had a few R7 450's and also an R5 430 which is a cut down version. They actually do well for what they are. I think I paid around $30 each 2 years ago or so when I got mine
For the 60watts of power with the DX 11_1 feature set. Its probably better to spend the money on the very rare Dell RX640 and atleast get DX12 feature set
Considering API support is all over the place, this card can indeed do DirectX12. But if we're talking about DirectX12 with actual Direct3D12 features, which is supported since GCN2, a R7 260/360, RX 455, RX 540, GTX 945A, or GT 1010 should do the trick. The problem is indeed that the RX 640 is rare. And rare means expensive. I just checked and there was only one for 53€ plus 20€ international shipping. I could get a RX 560 for the price and have enough left for a nice dinner. Even seen a couple RX 570 for under 60 and GTX 1660 for under 70.
This R7 450 is what all modern graphic cards should be. Small, single slotted, no external power source. Unfortunately, nVidia is increasing size of their cards in each next generation.
I have an R7 250 with 2Gigs of DDR3, and I consider it a decent little card that I bought for less than 7 dollars. What I mostly see here is how 4Gigs of ram and boosted clocks could really give low end cards a new life.
Reminds me of the kind of card that was in my first prebuilt, except actually good! Maybe one day I'll get one of these to build a small form factor box out of an optiplex... to replace my full size box made out of an optiplex.
I just bought the portless R5 330 and Radeon 520 to mess around with. They are so small and cute. I'm going to pair them with my S3/VIA/Zhaoxin boards.
16:57 There is a nice trick if you writeprotect the config file, and you start the game, the game will not gonna be able to rewrite it so the shadows may gonna work, i had the same thing at some other games at the old times, when my card wasnt really new.
I picked one up to use in 2019 in a compact HTPC build I was making using... junk. 20 year old Antec Sonata small form factor case, Aliexpress motherboard and 4th gen Xeon CPU. It's run great. Never stuttered on decoding video 5 years later it IS getting a bit long in the tooth though and I'm afraid I won't be able to replace it with something for the $75 I spent to build it.
Here in Venezuela they are quite the popular option, usually selling for about 30-50$ (third world inflation) but hey they are still a great option and their only competition in that price point is the quadro k620 from nvidia which only has 2gb of gddr3 vram
Edit, yep they get hot. Force fan to 100% with MSI afterburner. Haha called it! Have the full height version which is also only 2GB... Curious to see if yours also thinks it's a mobile GPU (r9 380m or something like that)
@@HappyBeezerStudios i have the same gpu (tho less memory) and it doesn't. I just set to 100% in MSI Afterburner, or maybe 85 if noise is an issue. I've upgraded to a Biostar RX 560D 4GB but keep my 450 as a spare. Eh either way my OEM Gateway Motherboard power limits them both, 40w for the 450 and 48w for my current card. A bit frustrating since both GPUs keep down clocking under load due to power limit which limits game performance
Anermine drivers should get more out of this oddball card. A thin copper shim with thermal paste on both sides, added between the GPU and cooler, might assist with cooling.
I still have my own HD SFF 7750. Its a Visiontek model that is running a single Gb of GDDR3. Absolutely atrocious amount of vram maybe, but i run it in my PC as a secondary GPU when i feel like living my early pc gaming nostalgia
Would you consider trying these same tests under a Linux distro like bazzite? That might alleviate some of the driver related weirdness and improve how some of those games run. Just a thought I had
regarding the temps... kind of tempting to watercool it. A basic generic GPU block from the usual CN platforms or heck.. even a chipset watercooling block could probably be made to fit this thing 🤔
I have an R7 250 I extracted from the Dell it was originally installed in, and it has a very weighty slab of copper sitting on the CPU chip -- so it seems odd that your 450 didn't.
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AMD's budget cards are always bizarre. I swear the designers make them after waking up from a fever dream.
At least they have all pcie lanes compared to new OEM cards?
perhaps 'during' it?
They're designed for Drafting and 3D Modeling software users, which is why they're in business-aimed small footprint OptiPlex models. I think my old PC at work had this GPU, and I loved how well it handled hard workloads.
Fr, i have an R7 240 with 4gb vram, why??
@@MrEdioss or new retail cards. Like how the RX 460, RX 6600 XT, RTX 3050 and RTX 4060 Ti have 8 lanes and the GT 1030 and RX 6500 XT have only 4 lanes.
Meanwhile a stinky HD 6450 or GT 210 come with full 16 lanes.
Potential £30 PC build?!
You gotta give the £100 gaming pc challenge a shot in 2024.
Rx 480 or gtx 1070 for that price now a days
I got a r9 in 2020 for 50€. But from the prices he often get we are extremely expensive here
@@Nordlicht05 R9 what? That isn't saying anything.
@@csorrowshe got a ryzen 9 of course!!! Lol
Got a rx580 for $50 on Fb marketplace for a budget build matched it with a Ryzen 5 5500
*casually twists the bracket straight to fit it into regular case*
Classic.
I have always felt doing this was a low point in my IT career. far more convenient than removing the bracket entirely and having it flop about in the slot! - I mean, what else can you do?
@@ChishanFipz not use it
@@ChishanFipz forbidden jitsu, Dremel a slit into the case PCI rung.
@@Anthrocarbon Glad my test-junk-case (InWin 303) doesn't have any of those to start with lol. if you remove all the blank slot covers it's just a giant gaping hole, intended to make installing a vertical mount easier... (which I always found dumb because that then blocks ALL other slots, vs the IMHO better option of dedicated vertical slots in the case)
I didn't appreciate it, LOL
I had a HD 7770 before upgrading to a GTX 1650. Nice to see older hardware still being able to shine in modern day.
I've got 2 of those ready to go inside a retro PC for some windows XP gaming hahaha
I still have my R7 250X here, originally supposed to be for me secondary system, but that got my old 660 Ti once I grabbed a 1060
Still a fine card. Good old AMD Finewine.
Got mine from the default 1000 MHz GPU 1100 MHz/4500 MT memory to 1100 MHz GPU 1337 MHz/5348 MT memory. The memory would go a bit higher, but I found it much funnier to be able to say my chips run at 1337 MHz.
@@davelowe I have two hd7770 now. Once I had 3. Hd 7770 2gb I used recently in my one of win10 pcs. The other one is in the box
Nice cards🙂. I even have my old MSi HD 3650 with 512MByte GDDR2 and MSi Cyclone HD6850 1GByte GDDR5 on my shelf as decorations. I only find out where the bios switch on my Cyclone was after I upgraded it 😅
Odd coincidence, I am building an ultra budget system with this today. Snagged this card, supermicro motherboard, X3460 Xeon, beat up case, Dell 200W PSU, and 16GB of DDR3 from a scrap pile. Add $15 for a 256GB SSD and it's a perfectly usable light gaming PC.
775 xeon with 200w PSU is a disaster
@@MrEdioss Its socket 1156
Can I ask what games you even play
Dude, you can get a E3 1240 V3 with a motherboard for less than $30 used in most cases. Pair them with your memory, PSU and ram and you have a very respectful budget build.
@@HardWhereHeroI mean, maybe they don't have $30 atm, here in Brazil, $30 = (a bit more than) R$150... Not everyone will have that much to spare.
The GTX 750 Ti also hold's its value because it's not actually a 700 series card. It's a 900 series card wearing a funny hat and a trench coat. Which means that its still supported by the latest nvidia 560 drivers on windows and linux. Where as most of the 700 series lost support a few years ago.
I'd recommend looking at the Quardo versions, the K620 sips power, the K1200 is a great SFF card, and the K2200 is basically a full 750Ti with 4GB, and they're all dirt-cheap because it was the base option for workstations.
There is maxwell 2.0 gtx 750 somewhere around syllicon belly I assume
I have one of those sat in its box waiting for a power supply . Used it as my main for about 7 years (don't play new games) and still works as good as the day i brought it.
There are also like 5 Trillion versions of the GT 730.
@@Fay7666 no no you want the p620 not the k that stands for kepler
I love these cards. I currently have the overclocked world record in 3Dmark Fire strike for the R5 240 OEM card.
The R5 240 is a lovely GPU, I bought 2 of them for 40 bucks back in 2019 and have been shoving them in every low end PC I have
This screams for a budget SFF build. Preferably just pick up an old Optiplex SFF and chuck this in + more RAM
If you get one for $5, this is fabulous. The lowest price I can see is like $20 for a 2gb full height OEMmodel, though - I'd step up the budget to 30-40 and get an RX 550 instead, the OEM version of that is basically an iteration on this card - 512 shaders, 4GB GDDR5 VRAM, but GCN 4.0. It's about 33% more price for 33% more performance, basically.
A FirePro W5100 can be had for around $30, has 4GB GDDR5 and 768 GCN 2.0 cores. It is roughly equivalent to the Xbox One iGPU in performance so it should run pretty much anything that runs on an Xbox One. The real price for an R7 450 4GB in the US is $30 or more. The W5100 is 50% more powerful and about 3% behind a GT1030. The W5100 supports feature level 12.0, whereas the R7 450 only supports 11.1
@@Lurch-Botwill the w5100 fit sff? Looks like a big card
I loved that 3D turntable with vertex snapping PSX like!
I scored an old OEM RX 550 4GB low profile card off a junked Dell next to a dumpster. That's right, a friggin' DUMPSTER. It outperforms an Nvidia GT 1030 2GB low profile card while only maxing out at only 50W. I've kept it around as a backup for budget builds.
I got a dell next to a dumpster too😂😂😂😂 but the video card was removed, and the cpu is an intel core i3-4130. The pc is ok for basic web stuff but not gaming due to not having a dedicated GPU.
It's annoying what people will throw away. I found a perfectly functional Playstation 3 sitting next to a dumpster. Then a month later, I found a third party Playstation controller next to a trash can. I even found some games somebody was throwing out, unfortunately, those were for PS4.
Reminds me of the ATI Radeon HD 5450, sorry i mean the HD 6290, oh my bad it's actually the 7350...oh no wait, the 8350...actually wait, the R5 220
Also, the legendary Nvidia ION...wait, it's actually an 8400...or is it the 9300....or the well known 210 !!...wait it's more of a 310...or maybe even a 405! NO, the 505!!
Could probably list many more, but the list is too long hehe
No point making it complicated..
@@darthwiiziusbratan it was just a joke, its all fun and games. It's a fun card, but many have a history as such, reuaed. The damb 210 wa sold till like 2020, of not more. Then the 710 took over, which is basically a 210 ofnits ewra
@@NecroFlex
I know mate, I may have been being somewhat sarcastic..
Remember that there were 3 versions of the 8400 GS
One with a G86 chip and decent budget performance
One with a G98 chip and half the performance
And one with a GT218 chip and again reduced performance and cut down memory bus.
The 9300 GS is the one identical to the second 8400 GS
The 205 is identical to the third 8400 GS (the 210 and 310 are closer to the first 8400 GS, but on GT218)
But my favorite example is the GT 730, because that is a card still seen in some "gaming" rigs on the used market today.
Three models:
One with a GK208 and 64-bit DDR3
One with GK208 and 64-bit GDDR5 (if for whatever reason you'd want one, this is the one to get)
And one with GF108 and 128-bit DDR3 (don't get fooled by the 128-bit interface, it's still slower than the 64-bit GDDR5 on the second model, plus the GPU is about 60% slower)
GK208 is also used in the GT 630, 635 and 640, the latter of which was even a decent performing midrange budget card.
But GF108 was originally used in the GT 440, then reused as GT 530, then GT 630 and finally GT 730
But the card I totally want to get is a GT 420.
I'd pair it with an Athlon II X3 420e and a 120 GB SSD and 300 GB HDD for 420 GB total storage. Won't be able to give it 4.2 GB RAM, but could get as close as I can get.
And if that doesn't tell what the purpose is, let's just say I want to build a meme machine with a specific theme.
9400 gt I have two. I really have good feelings in two and keep those two for battle field...? I also have 8400 gs low profile ... I don't know I keep it and love it after he said dodgy graphics card
For some reason, here in the states, these sell for the same price as the Rx 550 at ~$30
Yeah, I checked eBay and they are running between $25 to $30.
@@mattelder1971 if I could get my hands on this gpu for $5-10 I'd keep a stockpile for any and every office PC I randomly procured
You can also get a secondhand RX570 for about that price too which is crazy. I see $40 regularly.
@@tacticalmattress Yup, even 4gb 580 can be in this price range, for 8gb version they usually want more though.
@@testtest8399 I still have one because it just isn't worth it to sell. Keep it for troubleshooting or i guess incase any of my newer GPU's die
I also own a similar OEM R7 250 2GB I bought used on ebay for about $20 about 2 years ago. I put it in an Ivy Bridge SFF computer I found on the sidewalk and use it in my HTPC for couch co-op games. With appropriate settings I could play Mordor: Shadow of War at 30 fps. And my card is tier below the one featured here. Weirdly my R7 250 overclocks significantly and the benchmarks show a nice ~15% GPU uplift.
What are some couch coop games you play?
I'm currently trying to set up a pc for that purpose.
The R7 250 is good but quite a bit behind the GT 1030… but the 1030 goes for a much higher price
@@sajanator3 It runs Overcooked 2 at 60 fps @ 1080p, no problem. Though in the US, a AMD WX4100 4GB might be a better choice if you have $50 to spend on a SFF HTPC setup. As that card is basically a RX 560!
@@Bboyman1150 ya a AMD WX 4100 4GB is a better option at that price point if you want 1030 performance or more.
i used a 250 for server gpu output for a while
My most interesting 5$ gpu find was 9500 GT Mac Edition (esentially 9500 for mac computers), works so well it would run War Thunder in 720p at 25fps. Final drivers on 9000 series are something.
AMD did all that whacky stuff with renames, and rereleases, and rebadges back in the day. Selling a GCN 1 card after 2 and 3 and Polaris were all out is just super AMD of that era. I miss the days when AMD was releasing whacky old stuff renamed all of the time. Now the most interesting thing in the stack was that they are still technically selling small amount of Polaris cards to chinese ecafes and because of it you can still buy brand new 580's to this day.
nVidia did the same. They both kept reusing the same cards again and again, especially in the lowend. Just look through the use of Fermi and even Tesla cards in their Kepler generations.
This is the LATAM/SEA special.
This and a second/third gen i5 (or even a modded 775 xeon) you can get a turbo budget gaming PC for less than $40 perfect for your little cousin's first gaming experience.
I still have a modded LGA771 Xeon here. In fact, I'm writing this on the very machine. And for a long time it had the big brother of the HD 7750/R7 450 in it, a HD 7770/R7 250X
And my main rig is indeed an i5-3570K, because I haven't encountered anything so far that I want to play that it can't run. Well except for a 2013 MMO that is insanely CPU intensive.
That tiny little thing that's smaller than the NIC in a lot of servers uses 60 watts? Impressive.
Because its strong af for that size! It can olay rdr2 30fps,hello!
Speaking of those outlandish 2 slot coolers for the 7750, it'd be interesting to see if you can push the card further with a different cooler - I'd imagine the screw holes on the PCB have changed with the beefier GDDR RAM arrangement, but maybe not?
I'm an experienced overclocker, lower temperatures don't increase overclocking headroom on older GPUs, because it only lowers the tdp of the card and doesn't affect the voltage level, which affects maximum clocks. Quite contrary with higher temperatures I had more stability at negligibly higher clocks.
Modern cards are quite limited by tdp nowadays, so lower temps means higher voltage, same tdp.
Unless it has some voltage control, which most of the cards that need overclock to be relevant don't have, it's just a longevity investment against chip desoldering itself and loosing contact or simple clock degradation.
I had a faulty gt 640 of which I took the heatsink to use in a r5 240, the screws were the same distance so I was able to push to the max with the Radeon Bios Editor, from 800/1075 to 1350/1400 with +100mv. Also tested 1425 core with +175mv but it wasnt really stable
Quite a lot of LP GPUs have the same Cooler Mount Screw Spacing plus comon with their Full hieght version even between AMD & nVIDIA,
the difference if any is usually PCB Layout causing a problem with either varying distance from Core to the I/O or SMD Clearance
@@MrEdioss I remember when changing voltage was as easy ad flashing a modded bios. Got my 7300 GT from 400 MHz to 640 MHz that way. Ran absolutely stable and could rival a 7600 GS.
And lowend cards tend to not run into big TDP issues. they often just go for 50 or 75W and call it a day. And even that is something that could be changed on earlier cards. I threw 1.21v and 170W on my 660 Ti and got it to run stable at 1242 MHz instead of it's stock 980 Mhz.
But obviously they have to lock everything down nowadays. At least tinkering with the current sense resistors is still possible.
That´s the point. The upgrade cycles are coming too fast for me and I left this train a decade ago. My three machines are all 10+ years old, but they are doing their job. Indeed my treshold is 1080p but I don´t need more. That´s why I love videos with testing old hardware and budget builds! 🤗 send from a Lenovo Core 2 Quad 9550 with Radeon 7770 - the daily machine.
Great system that. 👍
And it runs 11 without any problems. This is really great.
Same thing here, except I had a newer system and switched back to an older one. I usually just run win 7 or XP and linux as I am not a fan of win 11, but with mods it would be usable. I love core 2 duos and quads they are the best CPUs intel ever made, and pre 2008 boards have no intel me! Socket 775 and socket AM2/AM3/FM1 are definitely the best platforms ever made!
The upgrade cycles have already slowed down a lot.
I remember when your 6 month old CPU was already too slow for the newest games and your 9 months old graphics card had already a full successor generation out. Nowadays you can run fine with a 3+ year old CPU and GPU cycles are closer to 18 months.
always love seeing a new one of your videos! many people post a "budget pc" video but its over 500 quid! so seeing your sub £1 builds and bargain and hidden finds like this is always a loverly watch!
Basically sold to OEM:s as the "Hey it's better than an I-GPU" option..
Honestly, an impressive display of getting rid of excess stock on AMD:s part, if you ask me.
These runs of respun cards are well past trying to get rid of old inventory. At this point, they have had to make additional runs of the GPU ASICs, or someone has. I wouldn't be surprised if they had licensed their older GPU cores to a third party to have them get wafers made instead.
According to a comment this was sold in systems intended to be used in rendering and 3d modeling.
@@GGigabiteM It is built on an old fabrication process. It wasn't very expensive to have TSMC crank out a few of these with the 28 nm fab when everyone wanted the newer 16 and 14 nm cards.
I am so glad I discovered this channel earlier today. Been binging your videos on my day off 😆
Hey, you can toggle "read only" in the file settings, preventing the game from changing the configuration file.
Love your videos!
As a more hardcore method, use windows' file permissions. Disable permission inheritance and remove all its inherited permisisons (don't convert them), add a new permission entry user named "everyone" and only give it permission to read the file, nothing else. Even if a game runs as administrator (which they should never do), it can't change anything about the file, just read it. Hell.. *you yourself* can't change the file afterwards either, not even with administrator rights. You need to manually change the permissions back to allow the file to be modified. It truly is "read only" in this state. The basic "read only" checkmark in the file properties is more of a suggestion than something that is enforced, unlike the permissions
Every time I see that mug, it makes me smile, and glad you still have it!
You've had it for years!!!!
Being 8 days after this video posted, you cannot buy these cards off of eBay for less than $40 with shipping. Even the prices shown in his video are not $5, and you have to pay for shipping. It's still an interesting card. Once you are at the $40/50 price, you can buy a used RX 480 off of Marketplace which is MUCH better
A follow-up video with a better cooler could be a good idea I think. Loved this one !
I remember my OEM R9 255 from the prebuilt my parents bought me. I bought an r9 370 for super cheap a few months after getting it, which lasted me until like 2016 actually.
I'd love to see you replace the cooler and test how far this can go :)
The textbook definition of a hidden gem!
One of those weird upper-lowend to lower-midrange cards that run surprisingly well.
Other cards that could punch much above their weight were the Geforce 4 Ti 4200, Radeon 9600 Pro, Geforce 7300 GT, Radeon HD 5770, Geforce GTX 750 Ti, Radeon RX 470, and to a degree the 8800 GT (but that was a highend card for a midrange price. I'd totally buy a RTX 4075 that beats a 4080 Super for 500€ today)
Welp. If I ever have all my GPUs die for some random reason and I don't have a backup GPU or all my setups die. I think I now know what to get now.
This definitely came as a surprise and it's great to know about it cause I use Linux mainly and any AMD card from HD 7000 series to at least RX 5000 series work for all my applications and different distros.
Great to know these are such a low cost and will now be something to get in at least my budget XD.
Thanks for the videos as always. It has been making my week every week you post a video. Plus I rewatch your videos alot and these recent ones have been awesome to rewatch. Thank you for that man.
R7 450 prices after this video:📈📈📈
I enjoyed this episode so much, had a 7790 that was quite powerful like a 7850, got it for dirt cheap, quite close to base PS4 gpu, got rebranded and became the R9, 260, 265, R7 365 I think, and they just kept on selling it
I felt physical pain seeing the pliers come out for the IO bracket.
On Ali Express the cheapest I can find is £36 and on eBay £50. I think you were really lucky.
3:07 that rebranding history of the cards is mind boggling 😅😆
Fair play for doing that research fella. Respect to you because that's extensive!
Cool card, especially considering its small form factor. I got a similar card, the R5 340X which isn't bad either. Uses even less power and it can run some games which I never thought would even load on it. Like Crach N Sane Trilogy, only you have to put the resolution to that of the original xbox 576p 🤣
I had a 7750 in a secondary PC back in the day. Great little card even with only 1 GB GDDR5. Makes sense that it saw revision after revision being the fastest original GCN chip that didn't require external power making it an apt for high production, easy upgrade for basic desktop PCs.
First gen GCN was so awesome for it's time, not to mention long lasting. Probably my favorite Radeon architecture.
Damn that OG empire earth clip was such a throwback it gave me whiplash. Grew up playing that game
That 4gb of actual graphics memory is working wonders on that little guy
Definitely worth checking out the RX 640 if you want to see what OEM cut down Polaris can do. The Polaris 23 XT performs fairly well enough and they're dropping in price. Oddly enough it's launch date overlaps the EOL for the R7 450 so there was a strange time where you could probably order up a configuration with either card. The 640 has 7-11 driver support as well and 10/11 drivers are still getting updates for it.
Great little card! 8 hours after uploading, I immediately went to see if the prices were really that low...and I can't find them for under 30-40 euros. What gives? Everyone started buying them up right after your video? Damn...
That will always happen. Just look out for cards with interesting specs.
At this moment, I have three of this card on my shelf (full height versions only) and a light gaming build with a Xeon E3-1225v2 (i5-3470) and 16gb of RAM. Makes a really nice light gaming build that doesn't need a PCI-e power connection. One of my absolute favorite budget gaming cards.
The temperature is a clear result from clocking it so high (and thus throwing in lots of voltage) and pairing it with a tiny cooler.
I had a passive 7300 GT way back in the day and could get a massive 60% overclock and 15°C lower temps by tying an 80mm case fan to it and using plastic shims to increase the mounting pressure.
I also had a 8800 GT, and that thing it 103°C in games. Can thank the single slot blower cooler for that. And again case fans came to rescue. This time two fans and they dropped temps by about 30°C
For the R7 450 going either for a second slot or full height, or both should do a lot. Perhaps even just replacing the small fan with a bigger one or having one blast at the card from the side.
They're now £36 to £59 online!
It is so impressive what they squeezed out of it. Makes me wonder just what some other newer mainstream cards could be capable of.
2012 when I built my first actual budget gaming pc I got HD7770 1GB paired with FX-4170 and 2x4GB RAM. Man that setup with clean windows install could play BF3 Ultra back in the day, tho I settled on High settings for smoother 60fps :P
Isn't that the same cooler they threw on the OEM RX 550's? Lord those things would get HHHot!! The AIB's version of the RX 550, never even broke a sweat.
94c running Crisis is pretty crazy
I had the 2 GB HP version (R9 M360) during the COVID/mining pandemic. I got it for ~$40 since nobody knew what it was, and it was able to run everything I wanted to play then, which were mostly older games and turn-based RPGs ported from consoles.
It was a time when GTX 750 and R9 370 were going for well over $100, and anything Polaris and newer (mining-capable) was $300+, so $40 for this thing was an amazing bargain in comparison.
CeX are on the ball - i just checked for this card, and it's now £15 :D
I did the opposite, searched for cards and then end up here!
Great video as always, Budget! You inspired me to sort out my cable management and switching fans inside the case lol
But seriously, no other channel relaxes me more in times of anxiety
Much love from Poland ❤️
Martha
I bought some of these a couple months ago, when I saw those specs at that price point I realized that I stumbled on a hidden gem! Nice to see it getting some more attention.
That didn't take long. By the time I got to eBay the price was $30+
Great vodeo as always. I noticed the cards on cex are now £15 and out of stock😂
I have one of these as my backup test card. It’s very confusing though, there’s like a million variants of this thing and it’s been rebranded a million times. Mine reads as an m360 as well. Paste was dry as a bone so I replaced it which helped. Mine is the full height one from hp. Branded as a 340x or something
M360 i killed mine, when repasting it, my fault. Good hot card for the price
@@uenh8447wdym you card die? The m360?
@@codfish1776 yes
I have this exact card. The worst part about it was the lack of updated drivers. Good for an old Haswell Linux build.
Have you tried the Amernime drivers?
great job cex, you saw this video, ran out of stock and bumped the price up by £10 and ebay is going nuts
i wish people and businesses didnt react this way to this kind of information
No one will buy them and the price will collapse as the greedy sellers desperately try to cut their losses. Newer, faster cards sell for the same price now, the only selling point of these were "it's cheap".
yeah, i hope that comes sooner rather than later, it sucks when people do it thinking they're gonna make a bargain reselling them at values higher than what they're actually worth
You always find cool things to feature.
Could be an interesting card on a main linux system as the desktop GPU, and then a modern one for gaming with GPU passthrough for a windows virtual machine...
Since a 5800X3D has no integrated GPU, it can be a real option for cheap without requiring additionnal power from the power supply.
I'll entertain that thought for some time.
Nvidia did a similar thing with GF108 from the Fermi architecture. GF108 was a entry-middle level Fermi GPU manufactured with TSMC's 40 nm process and sold under GeForce 400 series. Then, GF108 was used as an entry level offering at GeForce 500, 600 and 700 series.
With GeForce 700 and 800 series, GF108 has undergone a die shrink from TSMC 40 nm to TSMC 28 nm and was renamed to GF117. GF117 was available under GeForce 700 and 800 series.
GF108 and GF117 cards only differentiated in core clocks, TDP, manufacturing process and amount of VRAM.
GF108 was on sale between 2010-2016 and GF117 was on sale between 2012-2016.
Well done, with one video you managed to inflate the price 3 times up!
Id love to see a video where you upgrade the cooling and clock it further
ahhh Rebrandeon
I'd love to see the Radeon 540 next. Its often sold as a "RX 540 1GB" despite the RX 540 being a different, equally obscure graphics card.
Oh yeah, those amd gpu temperatures, gotta love that little heater you purchase there
The Hero of the weekend is here !!!!!!! The perfect Video for the friday evening :D
Thank you for such interesting content. Please make another video where you push it to its absolute limits.
I actually have 2 of these from when i worked in IT. Systems were getting retired so i grabbedd em (was allowed to). Was super suprised when i saw the 4gb of ram and ran some games with them. Honestly a pretty cool little card for the price
Truly a worthy Rebrandon of the past.
These cards are pretty neat. I remember seeing them offered by dell working for a school at the time. We were doing the bottom end Quadros.. which were actually pretty ass at the lowest end.. this thing actually would have been a decent upgrade.. at least for gaming.
+1 for playing Empire Earth. Absolutely amazing game
oooh, ok, so, it seems there's no R7 450 available for shipping to Brazil atm, (except for one which's selling for R$289, whichs too much and above the budget) but I'll keep not just one, but my both eyes on it and see if I can find one for a friend of mine (he's on a 3rd gen i3 with no dedicated GPU, and wanna upgrade it with an i5 or i7 + GPU), just wow. Nice video and holy crap, that's some really great performance, and yeah, the 750TI do is one of the options being considered, hah
Remember that it's basically just a HD 7750, so any HD 7770/R7 250X, HD 7790, HD 7800
@@HappyBeezerStudios yeah tbh we've been looking mostly at benchmarks with actual tests on games for reference, because they're more important than technicalities, and this R7 450 actually performed kinda similarly to a GTX 550TI on that regard. Also, old AMD cards are pretty rare here in Brazil, 2006~2010 cards are rare and usually expensive, ebay isn't usable and aliexpress is suffering from a taxing of 97% at $50+ purchases. Aliexpress stuff are still more affordable than local, used parts. The R7 450 specifically was something I didn't know about until now. People in here nowadays try to sell old Pentium and Celerons (with motherboards) for R$300~800, NDS and PS2's for R$600+ despite the ps2 being the best selling console, not only in the entire world, but also here in Brazil, so some rules are kinda twisted around here. It's cheaper to buy a 3rd gen i5 on aliexpress than to buy an used Core2Quad here on my city. São Paulo is less worse in that regard, but yeah... That sucks
I think you actually kinda swayed the price up. It went from 5 dollars to 6 dollars on average for a week then it fell down to 4 dollars on average. 🤑
8:53 I'll take filming a screen + decent audio over the opposite. Good audio will always make up for bad video quality
I thought the 370 was rebranded a lot from the 270 and the 7870 but this one surely takes the price of most rebrands.
almost HD 7770 🙃
The R9 270 usies the Pitcarin XT chip, which was indeed used in the HD 7870, but also in the HD 8870
The 370 also uses Pitcairn, but in the Pro version. The 370X uses the XT
So the R7 370 and OEM-only R9 370 are the same as the R7 265 and HD 7850, they skipped the 8000 series on that one for some reason.
You should check out the RX 640 OEM desktop card. It's yet another weird rebrand rabbit hole.
Amazing video. Thank you
I've had a few R7 450's and also an R5 430 which is a cut down version. They actually do well for what they are. I think I paid around $30 each 2 years ago or so when I got mine
This is, without doubt, is weirdly an instant favoriite. There is something about mid-range cards during the cryptob00m
For the 60watts of power with the DX 11_1 feature set. Its probably better to spend the money on the very rare Dell RX640 and atleast get DX12 feature set
Considering API support is all over the place, this card can indeed do DirectX12.
But if we're talking about DirectX12 with actual Direct3D12 features, which is supported since GCN2, a R7 260/360, RX 455, RX 540, GTX 945A, or GT 1010 should do the trick.
The problem is indeed that the RX 640 is rare. And rare means expensive. I just checked and there was only one for 53€ plus 20€ international shipping.
I could get a RX 560 for the price and have enough left for a nice dinner. Even seen a couple RX 570 for under 60 and GTX 1660 for under 70.
I saw 1gb for $30 to $45 2gb on AliExpress. Where is it for $5, exactly?
This R7 450 is what all modern graphic cards should be. Small, single slotted, no external power source. Unfortunately, nVidia is increasing size of their cards in each next generation.
'Fine wine' tech at its finest
I have an R7 250 with 2Gigs of DDR3, and I consider it a decent little card that I bought for less than 7 dollars.
What I mostly see here is how 4Gigs of ram and boosted clocks could really give low end cards a new life.
Reminds me of the kind of card that was in my first prebuilt, except actually good! Maybe one day I'll get one of these to build a small form factor box out of an optiplex... to replace my full size box made out of an optiplex.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS hope to see more pentium stuff i love pentium
I just bought the portless R5 330 and Radeon 520 to mess around with. They are so small and cute. I'm going to pair them with my S3/VIA/Zhaoxin boards.
Oh, I love those funky setups. Like people pairing a C3 with a Kyro II
16:57 There is a nice trick if you writeprotect the config file, and you start the game, the game will not gonna be able to rewrite it so the shadows may gonna work, i had the same thing at some other games at the old times, when my card wasnt really new.
I picked one up to use in 2019 in a compact HTPC build I was making using... junk. 20 year old Antec Sonata small form factor case, Aliexpress motherboard and 4th gen Xeon CPU. It's run great. Never stuttered on decoding video 5 years later it IS getting a bit long in the tooth though and I'm afraid I won't be able to replace it with something for the $75 I spent to build it.
Here in Venezuela they are quite the popular option, usually selling for about 30-50$ (third world inflation) but hey they are still a great option and their only competition in that price point is the quadro k620 from nvidia which only has 2gb of gddr3 vram
How about undervolt it a little bit? So it wouldn't try to set itself on fire as much
im curious, have you ever dropped something in the water where you showcase the parts?
Can you start including Paladins and or Fortnite into the benchmarks?
Would be nice to see a generic online multiplayer.
Edit, yep they get hot. Force fan to 100% with MSI afterburner.
Haha called it! Have the full height version which is also only 2GB... Curious to see if yours also thinks it's a mobile GPU (r9 380m or something like that)
Not sure how much fan control there is, but I would assume the fans are already going up when the chip runs that hot.
@@HappyBeezerStudios i have the same gpu (tho less memory) and it doesn't. I just set to 100% in MSI Afterburner, or maybe 85 if noise is an issue. I've upgraded to a Biostar RX 560D 4GB but keep my 450 as a spare. Eh either way my OEM Gateway Motherboard power limits them both, 40w for the 450 and 48w for my current card. A bit frustrating since both GPUs keep down clocking under load due to power limit which limits game performance
Oh another fun fact, the chip codename is "R2-D2"
Anermine drivers should get more out of this oddball card. A thin copper shim with thermal paste on both sides, added between the GPU and cooler, might assist with cooling.
Still using my Nvidia GTX 970 from 2014. This is the 4th rebuild I've used it in, the only hardware that I've reused so many times.
I still have my own HD SFF 7750. Its a Visiontek model that is running a single Gb of GDDR3. Absolutely atrocious amount of vram maybe, but i run it in my PC as a secondary GPU when i feel like living my early pc gaming nostalgia
I remember when they actually were ATI Radeon! Back in the K6/K62 days!
Would you consider trying these same tests under a Linux distro like bazzite? That might alleviate some of the driver related weirdness and improve how some of those games run. Just a thought I had
regarding the temps... kind of tempting to watercool it. A basic generic GPU block from the usual CN platforms or heck.. even a chipset watercooling block could probably be made to fit this thing 🤔
I have an R7 250 I extracted from the Dell it was originally installed in, and it has a very weighty slab of copper sitting on the CPU chip -- so it seems odd that your 450 didn't.