Absolutely loved it tonight! No structure and no plan - bit like United yesterday....but a great show full of free flowing chat and opinion! Well done everyone❤ MG
@@anthonygachoki9262 Just go back to his first press conference.He was asked about meeting RR and said he just spoke on the phone.The dude had a whole dossier on the players,but Hag thought he knew better.
I feel bad for the next manager, they are also doomed, so much work for Ineos to do behind the scenes for next 2-3years before any manager can succeed here. Man Utd have far more pressure compared to Arsenal and Liverpool, who gave Klopp and Arteta far more time; this is why Ineos are so key as the continuity at a club like Man Utd
Other than Dalot, the entire team against Spurs is ETH's. They're all players that he signed or brought up through the youth academy. Other than Dalot, Rashford and Bruno are Ten Hag's prefered starters and Bruno is ETH's captain. Mark keeps going on about how the team has a weak mentality, but willfully ignores that this is ETH's team.
It was nothing about a weak mentality.. it was more not doing what you’re meant to.. if they were weak they would have sat back and they wouldn’t have carried on attacking throughout them game.
I think to sum it up ETH is just stubborn to play a style that these players cant. So we are left with either sack him and get a manager who can figure out what system some of these players can play or give him time till he clears out the whole team with his own players
If you think there’s no way back for him then why on Earth would you keep him? Why do you want to drag out what you are literally saying is a 100% chance of failure?
@@fatbroccoli8 cop out answer he just doesn't want to admit he was wrong about 10hag, obv a new manager would make a huge difference. You need to keep going through managers until you get it right.
Mark i wish i had a pound for every time you have said “ i don’t want to see him get sacked: But” if you do carry on talking if you dont why mention it,
Kind of a long comment. I think Mark was just so fed up with the manager sacking cycle that he really wanted to believe in Ten Hag and back him, unfortunately this clouded his judgement. He had 2 seasons under horrible structure with the Glazers and there were a few mitigating circumstances. Injuries, off field drama and issues, the sale of the club, despite that, ETH won 2 cups. However, it was glaringly obvious that there was no obvious style of play, no consistency in starting line ups, new signings having to win their place, too many times we got battered and embarrassed, poor in game management, fall outs and bust ups with too many different players. I said it in a different comment, Ange is what Ten Hag was supposed to be. On the balance of things, did EtH deserve a season under a proper infrastructure? Some would say yes, some would say no, but it was a fair question. INEOS clearly weren't confident in EtH as they were looking for other managers. The FA Cup Final performance along with no suitable replacement being found, saved him. I also said a while ago that Ratcliffe's vision for the club is to have an English/British Manager. In the end EtH remained. But now, into the new season, I think it's clear that EtH just won't be the guy to take us back to challenging for and winning the biggest trophies. He's spent over 600 million on players he wants. That performance yesterday was indicative of a team with no confidence and direction, and ultimately that comes from trust in the manager. Ten Hag in is no longer a tenable position in my opinion. It's time to let go.
Cracking comment. The only bit I slightly disagree with is the part about consistency with his lineups. You can't have a consistent lineup when you have so many injuries. The defence was decimated last season, and we had midfielders playing there.
@@iloveukgarage6314I should've elaborated a bit more, I meant how he would keep certain players in the team after a good performance even if they weren't part of the future plans etc. But yeah I agree, injuries were a big issue last season
@@faizkirsten2977 Ten Hag did not gave them the new contracts. ratting stabbing cliff gave it to them. They have no motivation to play, so they should never be deemed as key players in their contracts.
Long comment just to have the wrong viewpoint unfortunately. The rotten apples in the squad need to go, not eth. Rashford, Bruno, and the players that have been here the longest need to go. And the Glazers won't let that happen, ergo they needed to go aswell. If you gave this squad to pep, he wouldn't be able to fix it either. These players need to go. Changing the manager hasn't worked so many times. You have to notice the consistencies over the years. Who's been there the longest? That's the issue. Unfortunately so many fans are blinded by hate and want easy fixes the hay won't work. It's a scary situation United is in.
Bruno, Garnacho and Rashford cannot play ball in a small space, they want counter football. De defemce is selected to play high press. So a divided team, not mentally but in their capacities
I disagree Bruno is clearly capable of playing more disciplined, look at him for Portugal. Surely it’s a coaching problem with Bruno because why is he so good with Portugal and horrid with United??
Dalot not tracking back, every single player misplacing passes, panicking under pressure, poor dribbles, I don't think Ten Haag instructed them to do that. Tactically and the way we play is on Ten Haag but the players need to show up during these big games.
He is just accepting that United is a history club... Lets be real.. if they put their standaeds high who would sign? Why would Mbapppe go to United why would any world class played join United now with no CL football?? Srsly the standards are low. Because the club is shait and finished
We’ve been poor since Ferguson. There’s no sense of any improvement. I’d like to see us throw in the youngsters and stick by them. We’ve nothing to lose
Not fair on the youngsters to throw them into the fire like that. It could be detrimental to their careers. Seasons barely started, ETH’s style clearly isn’t working so unless we want to throw away another season we need to get rid
As a NUFC fan, I believe Howe would do a very good job at Utd, he is a level or two above EtH. He has done wonders with the squad of players he has had over the years here including crazy injury problems over the past 12 months. The issue at Utd is whether the board and INEOS are going to empower the manager to do what is necessary irrespective of who the manager may want rid of, much like the support Arteta was given. Also he and Ashworth had a strained relationship due to who was number one. I suspect INEOS want a puppet manager/coach. This would be why Southgate would be someone they would love to have in place.
@@charliesunley4825 no I didn't loool yesterday the title wasn't this or near this . This channel like many others is go with the popular . Nothing wrong with admitting channels do that and I'm sure I'm not the only one who sees it. But I can't choose what you decide to see . Everyone has an opinion. Eth for me isn't it and it's been evident
@@amt1293 I’m not convinced he does. But even if he did I still enjoy the content. But also do you expect him to never change his opinion even tho he might know he’s wrong ?
Why on earth would eddie howe join united. The arrogance to think you can just take a manager from a lesser team, when your own fans have claimed ten hag is better btw. Im sure howe would much rather be part of a newcastle project than flush his career down the toilet.
And to think all of this is happening because of a horse. Has anyone considered for all of Sir Alex’s triumph and glory as the originator of the United we know, he’s also to blame due to the Rock of Gibraltar mess which opened the door for The Glazers? I don’t think United fans have ever come to terms with that contradiction of our recent history. I mean even now Sir Alex never criticizes The Glazers at all, for the money they take out, for letting Old Trafford rot, for them being horrible owners. He never says anything. If you built something would you let someone come in and destroy it without saying something? Our problems are deeply embedded within the core and heart of the club - American greed!
George Best, Best ever 7 or favourite anyway for me, Cantona brought the young players through, Robson carried us at times, Becks and Ronaldo amazing but George Best, On those pitches, beating 3 or 4 players who could studs up nails in boots two foot you and not get sent off, He did things with the ball that no one could touch. When Pele says you’re the best, you’re cooking. If he was English, he’d be sung about at every match, Unreal, even playing for Fulham, tackling his own player, playing with putting one boot on, Asking players to tackle him and leaving them all on their @rses, Legendary, that goal against Spurs when he lobbed everyone almost parallel with the goal, The us goal at the end of his career, I think he beat 6 players in their box. Messi would have thought that was amazing if he’d done it
its werid ire remember back in the day when teams made a good few signings, it would be a constant talking point how the players would take time to learn each others game and to bed in, to gel. no one is talking about this... shows how silly this generation has become, wanting everything now, and condemning people as failures after a game or two, we have 5 new guys in our darn team!!! lets talk about it like we used to, logically.
Exactly. It's almost funny how everytime a manager gets sacked, you will have people saying stuff like "we need a rebuild from top to bottom, long term project, at least 4 or 5 years before we can start thinking about challenging for titles". And then these same people will ask for the managers head, 5 games into his 3rd season, as soon as we lose to Liverpool or Tottenham smh.
What a load of rubbish. We have had 4 managers before Ten Hag, and all of them were either past it Jose, Van Gaal, or not good enough anyway Moyes and Ole. Ten Hag is also not good enough, he built his reputation on a good champions league run that ended with Tottenham knocking him out, remember? Its not the players. We haven't had an (at the time not past it) world-class manager appointed since SAF left, and that is a fact. Which of our sacked managers did well elsewhere? No one, facts.. Stop defending ETH he should have been sacked months ago. We keep on appointing crap managers and giving them way too much time. That is the problem and nothing else
@@faizkirsten2977tactically inept or not managing to get these players to carry out his tactics consistently. He did beat Pep and city in the FA cup final with his tactics.
I can GUARANTEE you Ruud is NOT the long term answer. Erik maybe the manager, no1 in charge BUT, Ruud is the assistant head coach along with Rene. They’re the right hand man on Erik, giving their opinions, helping Erik do his job. So to put it simply, if Erik is sacked, the whole lot should go too. Secondly Ruud is the attacking coach, and we’ve seen how many chances these lot can’t finish. Lastly, Ruud definitely took the job on in hopes of taking over EtH reign. But he simply isn’t the answer to Utd future.
Ruud is a lightweight. Didn't do a great job at psv and got a lot of critism from the fans and the staff who didn't fully trust him. Imagine this at a massive club as United. If he get appointed as the new manager it is because of his name rather than his actual manager qualities.
Tbf on Ruud it’s not as simple as our attackers can’t finish = his fault. He’s barely been here a few months and he’s not the only coach. Not saying he should get the full time job though.
Hearing the words "Luke Shaw" and "First team" in the same sentence in October 2024 is why this club has fallen so low. If we were a serious club we would've binned him off ages ago. Another huge issue in this team is the fact that Rashford is the face of the club, he's the wrong sort of character to be pinning all the hopes of the club on
The difference that arsenal got right & man utd didn't Arsenal sold- ozil & aubameyang Man utd gave contracts to Rashford & bruno This might actually be the difference
Ten Hag should just play a 3-5-2. This prevents the midfield from getting overrun. Holjund/ Mason / Zirkzee/ Bruno upfront. Mainoo Ugarte Case eriksen rotating in the midfield.
Zirkzee linking up with Ramus would be so good suit both players issue is they are the only strikers in the club this would be a great plan b if a plan A was in place managers always have different ways to play when need, Hag rarely if not has no plan b
Does someone else realise Carlo Ancelotti is out of contract in the summer and Madrid will most likely replace him with Xabi Alonso who is also out of contract in the summer. Does it not make sense for Man U to go for Ancelotti? Personally i would love him and he seems to be the best option for us and the man management needed for our players
Ineos will probably stick with ETH. Sir Jim Ratcliffe said in the summer it wouldn’t be a disaster if we didn’t finish top 4 this season. It’s natural for fans to make OTT judgements after every match but it’s more important to take a long term view. Even if United played well this season, it’s no guarantee of a top 4 anyway. Until we are good enough to challenge for the title, finishing second, third, fourth or eighth doesn’t bother me. Just chill and be patient until we can challenge. We were never going to be title contenders this season, have a bit of perspective.
There is so little to cling to, the players aren’t firing on all cylinders, the manager is under massive pressure & has made mistakes. He appears unable to bring everything together & we need him to. We all desperately want this to work but Christ it’s hard to stay positive about how this gets fixed
Ten Hag under-estimated the job when he bring on Martinez Anthony Onana Ericksen. Until these 4 are implicated in his plans i cant see how we can be a drivin force!
Prior to the FA Cup final fans began to turn on the players and backed the manager wholeheartedly. All of a sudden players began to actually play for the manager and all of a sudden out of no where produced a performance for the FA Cup final because the fanbase were United in holding the players accounatable. Fast foward... the pressure returned for the new season and it wasn't on the players but ETH, players sensed this and the fanbase was split again, all of a sudden they aren't running again. Rewind to when fans boo'd when Rashford wasn't subbed. All of a sudden Rashford was doing training videos, running again and he was back again. The minute the fanbase gave him a break and all the pressure was back on ETH they smelt it and all of them down tools. It may be true that none of them truly buy into his tactics but there is a clear correlation between when the fanbase is blaming the players and the effort they give after and when the fanbase is blaming ETH and how the players use this as an excuse to pretty much down tools. The evidence is right there and its crazy!! Yes as a fanbase we need to realise we are not the United of old and to allow these players to actually play without a mountain of pressure. Imagine all these TH-cam channels burried the hatchet and actually put United first and held the Glazers to account, focused on the owners, focused on holding the club to account and easing the pressure of what it means to play for this club. Instead we are in fighting and arguing about what someone said a year ago, who is the real fan, who doesn't go to games, like the millions and millions of fans who support United have all been to Old Trafford. The Glazers ran this club to the ground, milked millions and millions and allowed a national instituion to rot and yet we fight among ourselves whilst they get away with it. These players are not blind to what is going on, you see Garnocho's brother online. Get rid of ETH yes but the fanbase need to be United in backing the players but also holding them to account. They cannot get away with that performance against Spurs. If Bruno, Rashford and co all of a sudden begin running, scoring, giving their all with the new manager, I will know everything I need to know that is wrong with this club and its not all on ETH. The new manager cannot be beholden to playing Rashford, Bruno, giving Maguire minutes etc. We need a team truly picked on talent, effort and merit otherwise there is no point in any changes.
The answer is simple we're not a football club! We're a commercial club like Van Gaal said! Certain players are untouchable because of the work they do off the pitch! Rangnick tried to break the cycle and got sacked for it! Eric done the opposite and backed certain players that we should've moved on years ago when Jose warned us! Eric just another yes man simple as that, that's why he got the job and lasted this long.
@@Alexander07882 The biggest red flag was when ETH came in and he said he vowed to get the best out of Rashford. This is the biggest issue at the club, managers are brought in and forced to play Rashford, Bruno, Maguire etc as part of their remit. You can see it in ETH selections, he is constantly trying to make Rashford and Bruno work. This isn’t in the team’s best interest. The fans can see it, what more other players? Other coaches, what does it do to the overall morale? Not only do we need to realise we are not the United of old, we also need to rid ourselves of all these players who have been here far far too long. As players they need a fresh start and so does United. We cannot continue in a cycle of managers trying to get the best out of players who have proven not to be good enough, no other club would do this.
These players have showed this level for years. No matter who's in charge some of these players won't bother putting the effort it. I completely agree with that David king message well said!!
The most important point is the fact that the players have totally lost faith and belief on ETH. In addition , his selection of starting eleven is also confusing. Frequent substitution of players never allowed players to combine. As a result players failed to understand each other's style of play. Thank you ETH for making UTD once again a mid-table Club. Under you we dont deserve more than this. Meanwhile , we need a Manager who has a strong personality with experience. Choose between Zidane , Mourhino and Nagglesman. Last choice should be Howe and Southgate.
If you have to go English what about giving Kieran McKenna and Michael Carrick a go. They might lack experience but we have gone for experience and it didn't work, so lets go for people that are United. For me its not just that we are crap in terms of results, we are also crap in terms of style. What is the cost to United keeping Ten Hag? Reputation is value and ETH doesn't have the personality or flare that United and the media crave ETH nice guy or not has to go because he doesn't have the man management skill to become a success at a super club like United.
£17 million to sack ETH vs the cost of delaying the process to Manchester United.. Aa club (business) if we fail to qualify for the Champions League or otherwise, we will lose more than £17m! Basic business strategy.
Absolutely no chance of qualifying for UCL if we carry on playing like this- utter shite! It's obvious they couldn't get the manager they wanted in the summer, so a case of "better the devil, you know." They still might not have clear sight (or access) to the person they ultimately want in that position, so this may turn out to be a very long and tiring season, boys!
I don't care what anyone says if we lose to villa and the 4 teams below us get a result we are in 16th place, then we have West Ham away who are just below us, he will need to go if we lose these games.
Before the season started i gave my prediction on here that united would finish 10th this season.I'm usually accurate with my predictions but i think we might finish lower than 10th at the end of the season.
I predicted 10th as well, but I am now on a bottle of toxic positivity, and I think we will beat Porto and Villa. Get a two week break and then go on a run amd finish 6th...I hope. It is the hope that kills ya'
In the new structure, the manager is a less important cog in the machine, it shouldn't matter if we change the coach every 6 months, because the playing philosophy and squad purchase is done by the football structure above. Times have changed, this is not the structure of the past. A big name is no longer important. A good coach with clear tactics that suit the playing squad is what is required. A good coach that can motivate and communicate clearly is what is required. Stop looking at mistakes of the past and embrace the reality of the new way forward under the new structure
ETH needs more time, he has and will make mistakes in picking his team but the lack of effort from some players has to question their commitment to this club.
Don't jump on players,,the responsibility lies with ten hag,he chooses who to play,he picks the team,you can't hear that nonsense from Chelsea fans,they had lamp and,and their last manager who finished sixth and was sacked
United will finish in 14th place this season this season as long as ETH stays as manager. His squad is full of inexperienced players with weak mentality and without any fight in them. This is the ETH’s creation. You need strong characters at the club and United has none left.
H Tenhag was a centre back during his playing times. He built a successful team at ajax with centre back as captain and spear head. He is good in picking good talents at back. I don't think he understands the other positions exactly. He don't seem to have a clear plan in building a game.
I support Eric ten hag there should be a show of strength between all the ex players and the fans and everyone of us should be getting behind the club team and manager mebe they would have less pressure and more willingness to win
We, as a United Fans have been thorough so many rebuilds and so many different managers that it just don’t make sense to sack him. I feel like he should stay until the end of the season, regardless of how low of how high we go. If they sack him right, the players will start playing good again for 6 months. But if he stays, these players will feel like a child who crying for attention but is not getting it - they just will just suck it in and perform. It is a tug of war where structure above is stronger then the players. We might get upset every other weekend, but just have to believe- otherwise ,nothing before now mattered.
Interesting what you said that message said about the crowd. It saying they were wrong, but I saw someone else at the game say that if you didn’t see the score you’d think Utd was winning 3-0 because the crowd was so loud.
Mark personally I'd like for Rashford, Bruno and Shaw all to be sold. Truth be told I feel they're holding us back honestly. Sad part of it is we know that they won't go any time soon.
The sad thing is that Rashford is the darling of the club because he came from the youth and is "one of our own" so it's hard for fans and the club to just give up on him. But in my opinion he's proven to us time and time again that he's not got what it takes to be the main man at this club. He's not got the mental strength, the nerve or even the quality to be the main man at one of the biggest clubs in the world. Rashford is just a role player, a part of the supporting cast.
I'm tired of MR10 & BF8. Why can we never drop them? No ways man. This is utter bs. They Have been piss for eons & get rewarded with guaranteed starts. Help me make sense of this.
Its funny how Mark always bring up Ben Foster and the other guy when he talks about goalkepping, but as soon as some other players trashes his favorite players its all about ”they dont know more than us fans” 😂
Im fuming with some of these players, ten hag literally risking his job by protecting Rashford because of his prescription pain med addiction….im sick to the back teeth with lazy players…. The fact that Martinez got 4 shots off shows that nobody else was pushing except 1 or 2….
@@EgoCityGamingUK i thought that Malacia would have been addicted to that since being out for so long.Anyway u might be right about Rashford as he does seem off.I am mysef on pain meds for 3yrs now
Definition of insanity - doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results. Why do all our managers make exactly the same mistakes over and over again? I really dont think this is on Ten Hag. I would prefer they offer him a new contract to show the players they need to listen to him.
No matter who replaces ETH if he gets sacked will be able to miraculously turn things around. There are senior players meant to support the leadership with the wrong mindset. Tenure and salary don't make a player a leader. In any organization, skill is trainable while attitude is not. Some of these senior players are not fulfilling their leadership roles. If this was corporate, they would be terminated for non-performance.
Head Coaches aren't puppets - unless that's what the owners want - they work in tandem with the recruitment team, which FYI is how it works at Liverpool with Hughes and Slot
The problem with not fixing something that's broke is eventually driving on a flat tyre costs more than the flat tyre it costs the wheel alignment, suspension and finally something or worse the life of someone else! Eric Ten Hag is killing the club and the team and the players!
You know what, other than Ruud, there is one more potential future manager that the board could insist is having no clear out, no bumper transfer kitty. Gareth Southgate...
Seeing the candidates for the job, i can’t see one who would build something special that will see us lift the big trophies. We as fans and belivers need to see That we are in a start Of a process. It’s clear that Ten Hag will not succeed here, but we must not let the panic choose the future manager.!
Hard to believe only 6 games of new EPL season, with all the spending to remove so called "no the right" players, and bring in many "Missing piece" player of right ability and attitude, yet still the same old story. I don't know the point to have a manager any more, the current team is not likely to be any worse even without a manager. Interesting to see what INEOS will do next.
MANAGER SUGGESTION: Allegri is free agent. Ex-Juve, knows how to handle big players and has a slower more cookie cutter style of play with excellent defensive fundamentals. I don’t think United will be a solid attacking team with these players, they can’t or won’t press. They struggle to maintain control with high paced movement. They don’t have the pedigree (at least not yet). If you want results now, his play style suits them better and will mean minimal rebuild or costs.
On the topic of fans in the ground singing no matter what: Where has that got us? Further and further in the mud. Like it or not, the fans in the ground have the loudest voice, the club listens to them above any other, and they've done nothing.
Everyone relax. We are just 6 points off top 4 and 8 points off the top and a lot of games are left. We will recover in the league. However, I do think we will do better in the cup competitions than in the league.
I will never never go for Eddie Howe. He is a small club mentality manager. I couldn't believe his tactics at Newcastle against City over the weekend. They were playing for a draw rather than going for the win. Eddie Howe is more inexperienced compared to RvN. I would like to at least try to get Jose Mourinho back. Under a different circumstance now with a proper backroom and management, I think he deserves another chance
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Absolutely loved it tonight! No structure and no plan - bit like United yesterday....but a great show full of free flowing chat and opinion! Well done everyone❤ MG
@UnitedStand well I have one question if Rashford find his form would you sell or keep him
@UnitedStand whose with me ten hag will be here to Christmas. Let me explain whether you sack or back does anyone know how ineos works
@@N_finite-q5qthere is no indication that he will find it any time soon..
@@daze77gaming hate to break it to u bud, but even after a new manager comes, once there honeymoon period is over it'll be back to this.
Surprising no one mentioned Martinez nearly scoring goals😢 We do not have a left back.Why would our defence move forward.😢😢😢
Ragnick dropped rashford , bruno and Shaw that’s says it all
aND hAG REFUSED TO MEET WITH HIM
@@daviddeida he’s ego has caused his downfall
@@daviddeidaDid he or was he fired before they met alot of speculations out here
@@Evonutd Totally,right from the get go.
@@anthonygachoki9262 Just go back to his first press conference.He was asked about meeting RR and said he just spoke on the phone.The dude had a whole dossier on the players,but Hag thought he knew better.
If next manager doesn’t turf Rashford out the door as soon as he comes in he may as well walk straight back out and save us a couple of years
I feel bad for the next manager, they are also doomed, so much work for Ineos to do behind the scenes for next 2-3years before any manager can succeed here. Man Utd have far more pressure compared to Arsenal and Liverpool, who gave Klopp and Arteta far more time; this is why Ineos are so key as the continuity at a club like Man Utd
Who's going to take him on those ridiculous wages?
and maguire
Other than Dalot, the entire team against Spurs is ETH's. They're all players that he signed or brought up through the youth academy. Other than Dalot, Rashford and Bruno are Ten Hag's prefered starters and Bruno is ETH's captain.
Mark keeps going on about how the team has a weak mentality, but willfully ignores that this is ETH's team.
mount, casa, rasmus not. united bought them.
It was nothing about a weak mentality.. it was more not doing what you’re meant to.. if they were weak they would have sat back and they wouldn’t have carried on attacking throughout them game.
@@glenjanssen25ten hag said he wouldn’t of signed for United if he didn’t have a say in transfers for every transfer so idk what your on about 😂
@@glenjanssen25 They were bought under his watch, remember as part of his contract ETH had the final say on signings.
I think to sum it up ETH is just stubborn to play a style that these players cant. So we are left with either sack him and get a manager who can figure out what system some of these players can play or give him time till he clears out the whole team with his own players
If you think there’s no way back for him then why on Earth would you keep him? Why do you want to drag out what you are literally saying is a 100% chance of failure?
He's answered this too much already and he's been saying it since Mourinho, because nothing will change by just changing manager
You realize its not him dragging it out
@@mefninjaobviously not otherwise he wouldn’t say this stupidity
He's saying unless there's an obvious good alternative then stick with it
@@fatbroccoli8 cop out answer he just doesn't want to admit he was wrong about 10hag, obv a new manager would make a huge difference. You need to keep going through managers until you get it right.
Ironic that money made from selling Sancho will pay for ETH to be sacked.
Now that's 😂😂
Actually quite symbolic, maybe BOTH were a problem that needs removing??
@@watchnoface8770I like this
Mark i wish i had a pound for every time you have said “ i don’t want to see him get sacked: But” if you do carry on talking if you dont why mention it,
@@watchnoface8770 Rashford should've been the one to go to Chelsea so awful
Kind of a long comment. I think Mark was just so fed up with the manager sacking cycle that he really wanted to believe in Ten Hag and back him, unfortunately this clouded his judgement. He had 2 seasons under horrible structure with the Glazers and there were a few mitigating circumstances. Injuries, off field drama and issues, the sale of the club, despite that, ETH won 2 cups.
However, it was glaringly obvious that there was no obvious style of play, no consistency in starting line ups, new signings having to win their place, too many times we got battered and embarrassed, poor in game management, fall outs and bust ups with too many different players. I said it in a different comment, Ange is what Ten Hag was supposed to be.
On the balance of things, did EtH deserve a season under a proper infrastructure? Some would say yes, some would say no, but it was a fair question. INEOS clearly weren't confident in EtH as they were looking for other managers. The FA Cup Final performance along with no suitable replacement being found, saved him. I also said a while ago that Ratcliffe's vision for the club is to have an English/British Manager. In the end EtH remained.
But now, into the new season, I think it's clear that EtH just won't be the guy to take us back to challenging for and winning the biggest trophies. He's spent over 600 million on players he wants. That performance yesterday was indicative of a team with no confidence and direction, and ultimately that comes from trust in the manager. Ten Hag in is no longer a tenable position in my opinion. It's time to let go.
Cracking comment. The only bit I slightly disagree with is the part about consistency with his lineups. You can't have a consistent lineup when you have so many injuries. The defence was decimated last season, and we had midfielders playing there.
@@iloveukgarage6314I should've elaborated a bit more, I meant how he would keep certain players in the team after a good performance even if they weren't part of the future plans etc. But yeah I agree, injuries were a big issue last season
@@faizkirsten2977 Ten Hag did not gave them the new contracts. ratting stabbing cliff gave it to them.
They have no motivation to play, so they should never be deemed as key players in their contracts.
Long comment just to have the wrong viewpoint unfortunately. The rotten apples in the squad need to go, not eth. Rashford, Bruno, and the players that have been here the longest need to go. And the Glazers won't let that happen, ergo they needed to go aswell. If you gave this squad to pep, he wouldn't be able to fix it either. These players need to go. Changing the manager hasn't worked so many times. You have to notice the consistencies over the years. Who's been there the longest? That's the issue. Unfortunately so many fans are blinded by hate and want easy fixes the hay won't work. It's a scary situation United is in.
@@faizkirsten2977very true
Just to put into perspective what Erik ten Hag has spent... you can buy Everton for for less than £600m; the sale price is around £550m.
Bruno, Garnacho and Rashford cannot play ball in a small space, they want counter football. De defemce is selected to play high press. So a divided team, not mentally but in their capacities
@@tolja111 well said. In addition Bruno is too undisciplined to play possession ball. I still think the best formation for them is a 3-5-2
I disagree Bruno is clearly capable of playing more disciplined, look at him for Portugal. Surely it’s a coaching problem with Bruno because why is he so good with Portugal and horrid with United??
@@isaaccc726this has been the case with United players for years honestly, still nobody knows. Was the same with Pogba, Fred, even Maguire
Imagine as a man utd fan you see The No 7 iCONIC NUMBER Been given to Mason Mount !!!🤣🤣🤣
It’s fucking awful
It makes no difference if you are over 13 years old. Its just a number.
@@ajnz2420It’s the icing on the cake.
@@ajnz2420lies
That's avjoke ten hag chose him as well
Dalot not tracking back, every single player misplacing passes, panicking under pressure, poor dribbles, I don't think Ten Haag instructed them to do that. Tactically and the way we play is on Ten Haag but the players need to show up during these big games.
Not players,,ten hag is paid to guide the team
@@jameswanyoike111 I do feel Ten Haag needs to go eventually but that performance was crap from both players and manager.
near 2 hour show? bloody hell
Treacherous times!
When the super chats fly in, the show never ends.
Yeah and it's throwing an advert every 6 bloody minutes. Ridiculous
There has been plenty of booing at full time in Old Trafford previously. Fans now are just exhausted 7:59
4:02 I agree with the papers. Utd fans happy clapping after that performance was shameful.
you don’t have standards mark
Because he doesn't support Man United WAKE UP PEOPLE 😂
He is just accepting that United is a history club... Lets be real.. if they put their standaeds high who would sign? Why would Mbapppe go to United why would any world class played join United now with no CL football?? Srsly the standards are low. Because the club is shait and finished
Because Forest used to be a great club. Now they're just relegation fodder so it makes sense that he has no standards.
Haha, why do you waste your time here to hate? So pathetic
@@artemd2025 zip up when your done
This guy has to be working with SEG. Only explanation that makes sense to me.
We’ve been poor since Ferguson. There’s no sense of any improvement. I’d like to see us throw in the youngsters and stick by them. We’ve nothing to lose
mate its not even october yet. of course we have something to lose. we can still easily compete for top 4
@@anmolchovatia , I like your optimism but it just feels like we need a new strategy
Not fair on the youngsters to throw them into the fire like that. It could be detrimental to their careers. Seasons barely started, ETH’s style clearly isn’t working so unless we want to throw away another season we need to get rid
@@anmolchovatia Top 4 at the bottom of the table lmao 😂
@@jorgeloredo100 we have over 30 games left
He's gone during the international break. The end.
no hes not lol
Talks are already there, leaks coming out just look for yourself
I hope
As a NUFC fan, I believe Howe would do a very good job at Utd, he is a level or two above EtH. He has done wonders with the squad of players he has had over the years here including crazy injury problems over the past 12 months. The issue at Utd is whether the board and INEOS are going to empower the manager to do what is necessary irrespective of who the manager may want rid of, much like the support Arteta was given. Also he and Ashworth had a strained relationship due to who was number one. I suspect INEOS want a puppet manager/coach. This would be why Southgate would be someone they would love to have in place.
why would u want your manager to leave your club ?
Shock Eth is losing on the polls by the fans and now the title changes lol talk about just going with the winning team 😅
Stupid
Feel like you’ve missed the spurs game mate, most peoples opinion changed after that game.
@@charliesunley4825 no I didn't loool yesterday the title wasn't this or near this . This channel like many others is go with the popular . Nothing wrong with admitting channels do that and I'm sure I'm not the only one who sees it. But I can't choose what you decide to see . Everyone has an opinion. Eth for me isn't it and it's been evident
@@amt1293 I’m not convinced he does. But even if he did I still enjoy the content. But also do you expect him to never change his opinion even tho he might know he’s wrong ?
@@charliesunley4825 mark was still Eth in and the united stand was ten hag in
Erik Ten Hag Masterclass Genius Superior Goat 🐐
Why on earth would eddie howe join united. The arrogance to think you can just take a manager from a lesser team, when your own fans have claimed ten hag is better btw. Im sure howe would much rather be part of a newcastle project than flush his career down the toilet.
What was the last thing Newcastle won?
Disagree he was flirting with England.
Its manchester united thats why...most managers wont turn it down.
He knows he can do 6 months and get a 20£ mill package on the way out
@@HashCakehow would that affect his decision… if anything surely he’d want to be the manager to finally win them something…
And to think all of this is happening because of a horse. Has anyone considered for all of Sir Alex’s triumph and glory as the originator of the United we know, he’s also to blame due to the Rock of Gibraltar mess which opened the door for The Glazers? I don’t think United fans have ever come to terms with that contradiction of our recent history. I mean even now Sir Alex never criticizes The Glazers at all, for the money they take out, for letting Old Trafford rot, for them being horrible owners. He never says anything. If you built something would you let someone come in and destroy it without saying something? Our problems are deeply embedded within the core and heart of the club - American greed!
Spot on!
George Best, Best ever 7 or favourite anyway for me,
Cantona brought the young players through, Robson carried us at times, Becks and Ronaldo amazing but George Best,
On those pitches, beating 3 or 4 players who could studs up nails in boots two foot you and not get sent off,
He did things with the ball that no one could touch.
When Pele says you’re the best, you’re cooking.
If he was English, he’d be sung about at every match,
Unreal, even playing for Fulham, tackling his own player, playing with putting one boot on,
Asking players to tackle him and leaving them all on their @rses,
Legendary, that goal against Spurs when he lobbed everyone almost parallel with the goal,
The us goal at the end of his career, I think he beat 6 players in their box.
Messi would have thought that was amazing if he’d done it
Back the Manager - Persevere - Break the cycle
its werid
ire remember back in the day when teams made a good few signings, it would be a constant talking point how the players would take time to learn each others game and to bed in, to gel. no one is talking about this...
shows how silly this generation has become, wanting everything now, and condemning people as failures after a game or two,
we have 5 new guys in our darn team!!!
lets talk about it like we used to, logically.
Exactly.
It's almost funny how everytime a manager gets sacked, you will have people saying stuff like "we need a rebuild from top to bottom, long term project, at least 4 or 5 years before we can start thinking about challenging for titles".
And then these same people will ask for the managers head, 5 games into his 3rd season, as soon as we lose to Liverpool or Tottenham smh.
This is the third season of ten hag,no positives,man united Will be beaten by arsenal,city , Chelsea, Aston villa,that is for sure
If the owners are serious. Implement a 50% paycut for no champions league qualification
EVERY WEEK NO WIN
“We don’t want to be like Real Madrid”
The biggest problem is the fans, not the ownership. Don’t expect to win anything with that mentality.
What a load of rubbish. We have had 4 managers before Ten Hag, and all of them were either past it Jose, Van Gaal, or not good enough anyway Moyes and Ole. Ten Hag is also not good enough, he built his reputation on a good champions league run that ended with Tottenham knocking him out, remember? Its not the players. We haven't had an (at the time not past it) world-class manager appointed since SAF left, and that is a fact. Which of our sacked managers did well elsewhere? No one, facts.. Stop defending ETH he should have been sacked months ago. We keep on appointing crap managers and giving them way too much time. That is the problem and nothing else
This is spot on and lost on a lot of people. Very good point
@@michaeltran3856 the same happened at Bayern and Barca. You keep going til you get it right.
@@alexhill7792 everyone good enough when they come then they were never good enough when they are here.
jose was good, even when he came to us. however, after us, his downfall started
@@faizkirsten2977tactically inept or not managing to get these players to carry out his tactics consistently. He did beat Pep and city in the FA cup final with his tactics.
I can GUARANTEE you Ruud is NOT the long term answer. Erik maybe the manager, no1 in charge BUT, Ruud is the assistant head coach along with Rene. They’re the right hand man on Erik, giving their opinions, helping Erik do his job. So to put it simply, if Erik is sacked, the whole lot should go too. Secondly Ruud is the attacking coach, and we’ve seen how many chances these lot can’t finish. Lastly, Ruud definitely took the job on in hopes of taking over EtH reign. But he simply isn’t the answer to Utd future.
@@Photosoflife well he clearly didn’t, he wanted Rene to be his assistant. But Ruud was appointed by INEOS, factual.
Ruud is a lightweight. Didn't do a great job at psv and got a lot of critism from the fans and the staff who didn't fully trust him. Imagine this at a massive club as United. If he get appointed as the new manager it is because of his name rather than his actual manager qualities.
@ossenaar40 that's silly repeat nonsense they do
Tbf on Ruud it’s not as simple as our attackers can’t finish = his fault. He’s barely been here a few months and he’s not the only coach. Not saying he should get the full time job though.
Hearing the words "Luke Shaw" and "First team" in the same sentence in October 2024 is why this club has fallen so low. If we were a serious club we would've binned him off ages ago. Another huge issue in this team is the fact that Rashford is the face of the club, he's the wrong sort of character to be pinning all the hopes of the club on
The difference that arsenal got right & man utd didn't
Arsenal sold- ozil & aubameyang
Man utd gave contracts to Rashford & bruno
This might actually be the difference
Besty greatest uk talent ever ❤
Ten Hag should just play a 3-5-2. This prevents the midfield from getting overrun. Holjund/ Mason / Zirkzee/ Bruno upfront. Mainoo Ugarte Case eriksen rotating in the midfield.
Zirkzee linking up with Ramus would be so good suit both players issue is they are the only strikers in the club this would be a great plan b if a plan A was in place managers always have different ways to play when need, Hag rarely if not has no plan b
Sounds a good idea … the midfield is so weak in any combination …
Does someone else realise Carlo Ancelotti is out of contract in the summer and Madrid will most likely replace him with Xabi Alonso who is also out of contract in the summer. Does it not make sense for Man U to go for Ancelotti?
Personally i would love him and he seems to be the best option for us and the man management needed for our players
Should've went for Don Carlo after SAF.
Ineos will probably stick with ETH. Sir Jim Ratcliffe said in the summer it wouldn’t be a disaster if we didn’t finish top 4 this season. It’s natural for fans to make OTT judgements after every match but it’s more important to take a long term view. Even if United played well this season, it’s no guarantee of a top 4 anyway.
Until we are good enough to challenge for the title, finishing second, third, fourth or eighth doesn’t bother me. Just chill and be patient until we can challenge. We were never going to be title contenders this season, have a bit of perspective.
But what if we continue to slide towards relegation? What if we can't stop the slide? It's looking ominous for Ten Hag.
There is so little to cling to, the players aren’t firing on all cylinders, the manager is under massive pressure & has made mistakes. He appears unable to bring everything together & we need him to. We all desperately want this to work but Christ it’s hard to stay positive about how this gets fixed
Ten Hag under-estimated the job when he bring on Martinez Anthony Onana Ericksen. Until these 4 are implicated in his plans i cant see how we can be a drivin force!
They need to play 433 without a number 10
I liked the 4141- that Spurs played. Not sure we have the players for that.
After Porto and Villa, sack him regardless of the result.
Prior to the FA Cup final fans began to turn on the players and backed the manager wholeheartedly. All of a sudden players began to actually play for the manager and all of a sudden out of no where produced a performance for the FA Cup final because the fanbase were United in holding the players accounatable. Fast foward... the pressure returned for the new season and it wasn't on the players but ETH, players sensed this and the fanbase was split again, all of a sudden they aren't running again. Rewind to when fans boo'd when Rashford wasn't subbed. All of a sudden Rashford was doing training videos, running again and he was back again. The minute the fanbase gave him a break and all the pressure was back on ETH they smelt it and all of them down tools. It may be true that none of them truly buy into his tactics but there is a clear correlation between when the fanbase is blaming the players and the effort they give after and when the fanbase is blaming ETH and how the players use this as an excuse to pretty much down tools. The evidence is right there and its crazy!!
Yes as a fanbase we need to realise we are not the United of old and to allow these players to actually play without a mountain of pressure. Imagine all these TH-cam channels burried the hatchet and actually put United first and held the Glazers to account, focused on the owners, focused on holding the club to account and easing the pressure of what it means to play for this club. Instead we are in fighting and arguing about what someone said a year ago, who is the real fan, who doesn't go to games, like the millions and millions of fans who support United have all been to Old Trafford. The Glazers ran this club to the ground, milked millions and millions and allowed a national instituion to rot and yet we fight among ourselves whilst they get away with it. These players are not blind to what is going on, you see Garnocho's brother online. Get rid of ETH yes but the fanbase need to be United in backing the players but also holding them to account. They cannot get away with that performance against Spurs. If Bruno, Rashford and co all of a sudden begin running, scoring, giving their all with the new manager, I will know everything I need to know that is wrong with this club and its not all on ETH. The new manager cannot be beholden to playing Rashford, Bruno, giving Maguire minutes etc. We need a team truly picked on talent, effort and merit otherwise there is no point in any changes.
Brother one of the best written comments in years on Utd
The answer is simple we're not a football club! We're a commercial club like Van Gaal said! Certain players are untouchable because of the work they do off the pitch! Rangnick tried to break the cycle and got sacked for it! Eric done the opposite and backed certain players that we should've moved on years ago when Jose warned us! Eric just another yes man simple as that, that's why he got the job and lasted this long.
@@Alexander07882 hence why they want other yes man in who gonna play Rashford
@@Alexander07882 The biggest red flag was when ETH came in and he said he vowed to get the best out of Rashford. This is the biggest issue at the club, managers are brought in and forced to play Rashford, Bruno, Maguire etc as part of their remit. You can see it in ETH selections, he is constantly trying to make Rashford and Bruno work. This isn’t in the team’s best interest. The fans can see it, what more other players? Other coaches, what does it do to the overall morale?
Not only do we need to realise we are not the United of old, we also need to rid ourselves of all these players who have been here far far too long. As players they need a fresh start and so does United. We cannot continue in a cycle of managers trying to get the best out of players who have proven not to be good enough, no other club would do this.
@@raycarlbrown-amory3509 Thank you, much appreciated
These players have showed this level for years. No matter who's in charge some of these players won't bother putting the effort it. I completely agree with that David king message well said!!
The most important point is the fact that the players have totally lost faith and belief on ETH. In addition , his selection of starting eleven is also confusing. Frequent substitution of players never allowed players to combine. As a result players failed to understand each other's style of play. Thank you ETH for making UTD once again a mid-table Club. Under you we dont deserve more than this.
Meanwhile , we need a Manager who has a strong personality with experience. Choose between Zidane , Mourhino and Nagglesman.
Last choice should be Howe and Southgate.
I think only Ancelotti can save united now 😅
If you have to go English what about giving Kieran McKenna and Michael Carrick a go.
They might lack experience but we have gone for experience and it didn't work, so lets go for people that are United.
For me its not just that we are crap in terms of results, we are also crap in terms of style.
What is the cost to United keeping Ten Hag?
Reputation is value and ETH doesn't have the personality or flare that United and the media crave
ETH nice guy or not has to go because he doesn't have the man management skill to become a success at a super club like United.
£17 million to sack ETH vs the cost of delaying the process to Manchester United..
Aa club (business) if we fail to qualify for the Champions League or otherwise, we will lose more than £17m!
Basic business strategy.
Bro forget about UCL. No chance in hell
More staff layoffs then. Basic Ratcliffe strategy.
Absolutely no chance of qualifying for UCL if we carry on playing like this- utter shite!
It's obvious they couldn't get the manager they wanted in the summer, so a case of "better the devil, you know."
They still might not have clear sight (or access) to the person they ultimately want in that position, so this may turn out to be a very long and tiring season, boys!
I don't care what anyone says if we lose to villa and the 4 teams below us get a result we are in 16th place, then we have West Ham away who are just below us, he will need to go if we lose these games.
Before the season started i gave my prediction on here that united would finish 10th this season.I'm usually accurate with my predictions but i think we might finish lower than 10th at the end of the season.
I predicted 10th as well, but I am now on a bottle of toxic positivity, and I think we will beat Porto and Villa. Get a two week break and then go on a run amd finish 6th...I hope. It is the hope that kills ya'
The best thing about this podcast was the sick George Best 🐐 top.
In the new structure, the manager is a less important cog in the machine, it shouldn't matter if we change the coach every 6 months, because the playing philosophy and squad purchase is done by the football structure above. Times have changed, this is not the structure of the past. A big name is no longer important. A good coach with clear tactics that suit the playing squad is what is required. A good coach that can motivate and communicate clearly is what is required. Stop looking at mistakes of the past and embrace the reality of the new way forward under the new structure
ETH needs more time, he has and will make mistakes in picking his team but the lack of effort from some players has to question their commitment to this club.
Don't jump on players,,the responsibility lies with ten hag,he chooses who to play,he picks the team,you can't hear that nonsense from Chelsea fans,they had lamp and,and their last manager who finished sixth and was sacked
this was the longest show i’ve ever seen from united stand 😅
cheers mark for making some sense of today utd everywhere today in the media
1:32:53 What kind of things are you doing to your laptop mate? 😳
United will finish in 14th place this season this season as long as ETH stays as manager. His squad is full of inexperienced players with weak mentality and without any fight in them. This is the ETH’s creation. You need strong characters at the club and United has none left.
People wanting Eth to stay, Gary Neville has better managerial win ratio than him when comparing the last 28 games. That's all you needs to know.
Then don't compare just the last 28 games.
What's really damning is that as a football manager I have lost less games than ETH
What was comforting to note was after the fans cheered the players, Martinez actually apologised to the fans❤
Rasmus, Zirkzee as a 10, Amad, Garnacho, , Collyer,, Ugarte, De Ligt, Martinez, Mazrouri, a new left back & Bayndr.
"Like a bunch of fairi.. Garden gnomes"...
Well recovered Mark... 🤣
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Tenhag was a centre back during his playing times. He built a successful team at ajax with centre back as captain and spear head. He is good in picking good talents at back. I don't think he understands the other positions exactly. He don't seem to have a clear plan in building a game.
It’s not just 17m for ETH. There will have to be pay-outs for the coaching staff as any new manager will bring his own people with him.
I know its out of the box but ill go for ange poste....
I get there isn't an easy fix but I think getting the right manager will go a long way in fixing most of the problems.
Every time ten hag has needed a win the team has come out and back him hope they can performe these next 2 games.
Shaw shouldnt be given 1min at Man United ever again
Rashford shaw and Bruno need to go take the hit it will be big but they are the last of the open heart surgery that’s required
I support Eric ten hag there should be a show of strength between all the ex players and the fans and everyone of us should be getting behind the club team and manager mebe they would have less pressure and more willingness to win
We, as a United Fans have been thorough so many rebuilds and so many different managers that it just don’t make sense to sack him. I feel like he should stay until the end of the season, regardless of how low of how high we go. If they sack him right, the players will start playing good again for 6 months. But if he stays, these players will feel like a child who crying for attention but is not getting it - they just will just suck it in and perform. It is a tug of war where structure above is stronger then the players. We might get upset every other weekend, but just have to believe- otherwise ,nothing before now mattered.
Mark on Ineos payroll for sure
I genuinely believe there is no solution, Ineos cannot afford a total re-set, only Qatar could of done that
Get a manager that was a central midfielder, they have the best chance of success. Pep, Arteta, Howe, Alonso, Howe...They get you playing football.
Mark, Ten Hag should try to use Antony as a leftback..
If the player didn’t throw his toys out the pram maybe
Interesting what you said that message said about the crowd. It saying they were wrong, but I saw someone else at the game say that if you didn’t see the score you’d think Utd was winning 3-0 because the crowd was so loud.
Mark personally I'd like for Rashford, Bruno and Shaw all to be sold. Truth be told I feel they're holding us back honestly. Sad part of it is we know that they won't go any time soon.
We are in such mess… divided, hopeless, lost. I’m supporting United since 1996, that’s the darkest time I can think of.
Has anyone seen the lack of caracter of Zirkzee when he press? That guy respects defenders too much!
The sad thing is that Rashford is the darling of the club because he came from the youth and is "one of our own" so it's hard for fans and the club to just give up on him. But in my opinion he's proven to us time and time again that he's not got what it takes to be the main man at this club. He's not got the mental strength, the nerve or even the quality to be the main man at one of the biggest clubs in the world. Rashford is just a role player, a part of the supporting cast.
I'm tired of MR10 & BF8. Why can we never drop them? No ways man. This is utter bs. They Have been piss for eons & get rewarded with guaranteed starts. Help me make sense of this.
Its funny how Mark always bring up Ben Foster and the other guy when he talks about goalkepping, but as soon as some other players trashes his favorite players its all about ”they dont know more than us fans” 😂
Im fuming with some of these players, ten hag literally risking his job by protecting Rashford because of his prescription pain med addiction….im sick to the back teeth with lazy players…. The fact that Martinez got 4 shots off shows that nobody else was pushing except 1 or 2….
How do you know that rashford has a pain med addiction?
Sorry im not dropping anyone in it but it’ll come out eventually.
@@EgoCityGamingUK???
@@EgoCityGamingUK i thought that Malacia would have been addicted to that since being out for so long.Anyway u might be right about Rashford as he does seem off.I am mysef on pain meds for 3yrs now
Ten Hag is going nowhere, we the opposition fans absolutely love him
Yes, the solution is a 7th manager in 10 years :)
It's so nice and comforting to lie to yourself. Isn't it? :)
Definition of insanity - doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results. Why do all our managers make exactly the same mistakes over and over again? I really dont think this is on Ten Hag. I would prefer they offer him a new contract to show the players they need to listen to him.
No matter who replaces ETH if he gets sacked will be able to miraculously turn things around. There are senior players meant to support the leadership with the wrong mindset. Tenure and salary don't make a player a leader. In any organization, skill is trainable while attitude is not. Some of these senior players are not fulfilling their leadership roles. If this was corporate, they would be terminated for non-performance.
Head Coaches aren't puppets - unless that's what the owners want - they work in tandem with the recruitment team, which FYI is how it works at Liverpool with Hughes and Slot
The problem with not fixing something that's broke is eventually driving on a flat tyre costs more than the flat tyre it costs the wheel alignment, suspension and finally something or worse the life of someone else! Eric Ten Hag is killing the club and the team and the players!
Eric and Ant, the chuckle brothers.
Mark, who's fault is that ? No it has nothing to do with Eric! Of course it does and he was there before SirJim and co!
You know what, other than Ruud, there is one more potential future manager that the board could insist is having no clear out, no bumper transfer kitty. Gareth Southgate...
Seeing the candidates for the job, i can’t see one who would build something special that will see us lift the big trophies. We as fans and belivers need to see That we are in a start Of a process. It’s clear that Ten Hag will not succeed here, but we must not let the panic choose the future manager.!
Players sacking another manager in my opinion. I'm so fed up with this. I truly believe that there's no manager that will sort this lot out
Hard to believe only 6 games of new EPL season, with all the spending to remove so called "no the right" players, and bring in many "Missing piece" player of right ability and attitude, yet still the same old story. I don't know the point to have a manager any more, the current team is not likely to be any worse even without a manager. Interesting to see what INEOS will do next.
Talented young players and doesn’t Mention Mainoo. Mixes Mainoo with Malacia constantly. The disrespect..
The problem now is top players and manager wont be joining this team, it’s a mess and the pressure is immense
MANAGER SUGGESTION: Allegri is free agent.
Ex-Juve, knows how to handle big players and has a slower more cookie cutter style of play with excellent defensive fundamentals.
I don’t think United will be a solid attacking team with these players, they can’t or won’t press. They struggle to maintain control with high paced movement. They don’t have the pedigree (at least not yet).
If you want results now, his play style suits them better and will mean minimal rebuild or costs.
On the topic of fans in the ground singing no matter what: Where has that got us? Further and further in the mud. Like it or not, the fans in the ground have the loudest voice, the club listens to them above any other, and they've done nothing.
Everyone relax. We are just 6 points off top 4 and 8 points off the top and a lot of games are left. We will recover in the league. However, I do think we will do better in the cup competitions than in the league.
4 points from relegation
@@daviddeida Exactly! It's too early to worry about standings
Manchester united got so many players that should have been sold But can't find anyone who wants to buy the players for the price they asking
I will never never go for Eddie Howe. He is a small club mentality manager. I couldn't believe his tactics at Newcastle against City over the weekend. They were playing for a draw rather than going for the win. Eddie Howe is more inexperienced compared to RvN. I would like to at least try to get Jose Mourinho back. Under a different circumstance now with a proper backroom and management, I think he deserves another chance
cant wait this december
Onana's been one of United's best players this season.
Bournemouth 3-0 half time