Great video! My mom is deaf so these topics have all come up before. 1. We usually keep eye contact with strangers or somebody we are in an intense discussion with because we do have to read body language in those situations. But idle chit chat between friends and family doesn't have to be visual at all. There are so many nuances we pick up in the speech of people we know that visual language stops mattering. 2. This is the hardest for my mom to grasp, but we can selectively hear. The same way we can listen to a single person in a large crowd, we can also dim noises we don't care about (peeing) by thinking about other stuff or focusing on the task at hand. Just because a noise is being made around us doesn't mean we are listening to it. 3. So this is the same thing! We automatically tune out so much noise and eavesdropping has to be intentional. Anyhow, loved the video.
I have something to add! Even though I am trying to learn ASL, I watched this video with the sound on and ended up looking at AND READING something else while listening to you speak instead of just watching you sign. My mom plays games on her computer while listening to tv shows in the background. We multi task our senses instead of using them all to focus on and immerse ourselves in one activity we use vision for one thing, hearing for another. It's not just communication.
about eavesdropping i don't think it's really our fault because if people talk loud enough for us to hear un a public space, then the conversation is not so private, and sometimes you can't just distract yourself and do another thing, it's involuntary... of course we can choose wether or not to pay attention to it but still it's hard xD
But the thing is Francisca if a hearing person has a convo in front of us (say a group of 3 friends and the 3rd is deaf) and we say Pardon? they often tell you Don't Worry.... as if we were strangers not meant to hear the conversation. So even though granted it may not be your fault that you hear other things it's rude when hearing people turn around and say things like that to us and make us feel guilty as if we were eavesdropping or left out.
As a HOH person, I get that a lot too, basically dismissed because I couldn't keep up. Now I'm left out and keeping quiet cause I don't know what the conversation is about.
This is so true! I may not do a lot of them (mainly because my autism and that fact that my Brain works differently) but I have a large family and J can say from experience that this is so true, especially the one about talking over each other.
Not every hearing person is like what you're explaining! :) I look at the people I talk with. And eavesdropping, where we ate lunch today,, three deaf people were at a table. I kept looking over at them. I teach a sign class and my bf is deaf, but like you, talks! :) great video!
I have autism, so I can’t possibly block out the world. Conversations are the loudest thing in my ear to me, and I can’t block them out even if I want to, so all I can do is dissociate.
(Hearing for 20 years then HoH and signing for several now) Some people you can't NOT hear. If you don't want other people to hear a conversation, save the conversation for somewhere where other people can't hear. Sometimes you just can't tune stuff out. You just... hear it.
A lot of these like listening in on people going to the bathroom or listening in on a conversation isn't intentional, you can just hear them in the background.
1. I rarely eavesdrop unless I can't avoid it. I just focus on something else. 2. We can easily use the tone of our voice to express how we feel, we don't always need body language to cue us. If it's a serious subject, though, we do look at each other. 3. I never pay attention to anyone next to me in a stall unless they're being REALLY loud. Usually only when there's a little kid making noise. 4. I do dance all the time. But there are situtions where people would stare at me if I were to dance out when I'm shopping, so I tend to sing to myself more than dance. My daughter is a dancer and she goes all out if she enjoys the song. My husband doesn't enjoy music so he blocks it out. 5. I would say most people talk over each other if they are arguing. But it's individual. Some people constantly do and I can't stand it.
its really interesting to hear your perspective of things we don't notice or take for granted. I really like your videos I enjoy watching you sign its so cool
Hey Amanda! Love your videos! One thing I noticed was how you Simcom, (simultaneously communicating). The reason I mentioned this is because when you speak in English but you sign, you aren’t using true ASL it gets broken and you use English word order. Still able to follow, it’s just a little difficult. Anyway, keep up the great work!
I've never understood the bathroom thing either!! It is even weirder when someone is listening through the door at your house and then comments on what they heard. I don't dance to music everywhere, usually because it sucks. The neighbor's cat just came in, by the way, and I would not be able to let him in if I could not hear him scratching at the door. He is a mind control cat who gets what he wants because he is so friendly :-)
I'm sure this has been said already. You say we listen to other relieve themselves as if we (hearing ppls) actively seek out the sounds of someone relieving themselves. But as a hearing person I'd like to clarify (probably again) that the only time we hear it is if it's a public restroom, and at that point it's basically like thunder. Or being in public and hearing cars. Were not necessarily TRYING to hear it. But we cant control it. If it makes alot noise and were in close proximity. Its inevitable
This made me laugh! The talking over each other I complain about and I'm hearing. Although as I'm getting older, I might fall into the hard of hearing catagory. Thank you!
Think about it like your sight. You rely on your sight like we do on our hearing. If you were looking out your window waiting for the mailman and your eyes catch the neighbor in their window doing something. You couldn't help but see it and it's really no your fault. So hearing some one pee isn't something we can control. And talking over each other is like looking at a screen of lights. It's hard to see all of them but some are brighter or more colorful than others. So when we are talking over each other we can pick up specific sounds coming from the specific persons voice. Relying on sound allows us to pick up on various noice coming from different places. But these noises can overwhelm us. Make it impossible for the simplest communication. But after losing some hearing a few years ago I do find my self actively looking at people faces while talking and getting frustrated when the turn or move to do something else. And as for music... not all music is for dancing and not all music is suited for our interest. Just like art. Some art you go to a gallery to look at others you got to a park to sit on.
What u said in this video it’s true cause I was born hearing but now I’m deaf and it’ scary to me cause I don’t know any deaf friends and I love to dance and sing too ni do appreciate music I was raised learning music so it’ is scary and I’m also shy but I’m trying to learn sign language on my own and I wish I had someone to sign with love your videos thank you very much
hey this is years late but this is some of my personal answers. (sorry for the long comment!) 1) Sometimes instead of body language I use the way that someone's voice sounds to know the context of what they are saying. Like if their voice sounds high and fast they might be upset or exited so by using those cues it decreases they need to look directly at them especially since some hearing people get uncomfortable if you stare at them hard. 2&3)Unfortunately we can not stop our self from hearing specific things. if we could not hear each other in the bathroom we wouldn't. Think of hearing like a giant net thrown in a river. it picks up everything from fish to trash regardless of what you want. so even if we do not know someone we will still hear their conversation if they do not whisper quietly. It is why some people get mad when people talk loudly in the movie theater. the person talking's voice can out talk the movie. 4)It's not that we are not appreciating the music. some music is specifically for relaxation and other times the music is just supposed to be background noise. some hearing people find complete silence unnerving so the background music is just there as white noise. 5) 5 is related to 2&3 since we can not control what we hear we have to get used to processing lots of sounds at once. So as long as no one is yelling too loudly everyone talking should be able to be heard. But sometimes it can be hard depending on the circumstances.
The answers to your questions are: Sound travels, comes in from every direction (you can't face away and not hear it) and we don't posses "earlids". If somebody is discussing something loudly we hear it. If somebody is peeing and the sound travels we hear it. Sounds are all different. Most people have unique voices. In a noisy place it can be quite possible to distinguish the person you are talking to from people in the background and the music playing. Usually that is.. Think of it this way: Explain to a blind person how you can look at a busy street and only see the big red truck that says "Joe's Plumbing" on the side or look at a forest and only see the Robin on a tree branch.. Being surrounded by sounds since birth we learn to separate them and ignore the ones that are not of interest. Right now I can hear the TV downstairs, the Thunderstorm outside, my buddy talking, this TH-cam video and the cat meowing. All three have very different sounds and are easy to separate. All I care about is your video so the rest is just ignored.
amanda....ur one of the most beautiful girls alive and i know this may sound weird...but the fact that u struggle with hearing loss just makes you that much more beautiful to me
Ahaha, I eavesdrop like that, people on the next table, people on the bus. Although I dance all the time I hear music, and sing along. But I'm a musician. :)
All the answer from this questions is becasue we can hear lmao. we dont look at eachother because we have hear the tone of voice. we talk over eachother because we want them to listen to us we can still hear them it just we need them to hear us aswell or we believe we have somthng better to say. listening to someone pee is like putting a hole in a water bottle and letting it fall doesnt sound different i dont personally listen to people pee but... we listen to others because we hear what they say and its juicy lmao its their business and its crazy sometimes. we dont appeciate music because we hear it 24/7 its no longer something we are amazed over its like a color blind person asking "why dont seeing people appreciate colors, they wear black and white and paint neutral colors. If i could see color i would use them all over"
1. I can skip. We should pay more attention 2. Trust me. I wish I didn’t have to listen to others in the restroom. That one you can’t control 3. Eavesdropping is fun. There are so many different layers we’d have to talk in person 4. I would love to constantly dance to the music around me but as a hearing person, I don’t hear it unless I’m really bored in the store and it’s loud enough 5. We don’t. That’s the thing. We try to talk over one another but we can’t. 7/8 of the time I talk over someone it’s to make them shut up. The other 1/8 is to finish my thought since I can never keep my words in order while trying to understand the other person.
About eavesdropping: I get it a lot, people STARING at me while I have conversations. I look up and voice, "Can I help you?" They smile uncomfortable, "No, I was just watching." Seriously, I want to go up to two hearing people and stare them down in conversation and use the same excuse. Will it be rude? Yes! So why is it okay one way but not the other??
I love signing and the deaf community but most of these things are incorrect. We can't stop ourselves from listening to each other use the bathroom or eavesdropping.
We don't dance to all the music we hear because it is usually in locations that dancing is somewhat inappropriate to do. I get easily overwhelmed with excessive sounds in a building or crowd. Going shopping can actually be hard for a hearing person, especially a mom, because you are juggling kids, your grocery list, hearing others talking, music playing, beeping from the check out lines, and sometimes managers paging someone. It honestly gets to be WAY too much!
I am hard of hearing and I love it when they play music everywhere, BUT there is a time and place to dance. I can't start dancing at a restuarant because the music playing or doctor's office where the music is meant to calm the atmosphere. Again, don't get me wrong, hey I even dance at the supermarket aisles cause it makes food shopping more fun and people generally join in and smile, hehehe. It's just the time and place because music is universal language that we all human beings understand that puts us on the same page in a lot areas, events, stores, community etc.....
I'm hearing and I think it's weird as well when people don't dance to music whenever they hear it. I'm at the very least head-bopping or tapping my foot to whatever is playing. I can't help it, I don't know how others can!
#1 is so true it's not only weird but RUDE. I am of course guilty of this but it is true. And was it #2 hearing others go to the bathroom. I hate that so much! I wish there was a way to not hear even myself let alone others lol
I totally eavesdrop, usually on purpose. I like to know everything that's going on around me and generally that information comes in handy at some point later (not usually malicious!) Otherwise Cool thing about having the ability to hear your whole life, your brain can actually turn off some sounds. Kind of like your brain can turn off smells that you've been around for a long time. There are a lot of electronics and appliances and other things in a house that buzz or let off a quiet high pitched whine and honestly our brain will just shut it off. We literally won't be able to hear it unless you point it out and then we're like "OH! I didn't notice...". I know that people who are able to have their hearing given to them later in life go a little crazy for the first several weeks because their brain is new to hearing and does not have that shut-off system for a while and so the newly hearing person hears EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME and it's a little much for them. :) Just thought that was something neat to share.
I like the video, Im hearing, and took Deaf studies for 3 years in Frederick, MD. So.... I wanted to comment/ explain about some of them. 2. We cant help listening to others pee in a stall, so I guess we are just stuck listening to them pee. 3. We do eavesdrop a lot, I will admit that. I think the hearing culture is just nosey by nature. 4. We don't dance in public, well, some people do, but It is kind of embarrassing, or viewed as a bit low class. It is kind of a negative thing. I remember when i was growing up, my mom would tap, or pop me when i would do something like that, she would say "you aren't going to embarrass me in public!" So It is not viewed as something positive, unless you are on summer break, and partying in vegas, or something. 5. Yes, we do talk over one another, it is a bad trait that we have. Some people feel the need to be heard, some feel their point is more important than yours, and some just don't realize they are doing it.
They jump from topic to topic so fast it's like they never end a conversation before starting a new one and when asking questions they don't Wait for an answer before asking another question
I couldn't imagine being deaf and autistic. The very thing that is so important when you are deaf, things like body language and facial expressions are so hard for a lot of autistic people. But At the same time, it just another form of communication, so I imagine it prob wouldn't be any easier or harder either way. I am still trying to teach myself ASL, not because I know anyone who is deaf, cause I don't, I just want to know sign language.
yea the thing about eavesdropping is sometimes people are loud or you do it on purpose just to make sure people aren't talking about you or your listening to others so you can jump in and saying something so you feel apart of the conversation(I get ignored-no one asked me about anything at Thanksgiving). Also I hate when ppl tell me i'm too loud or my mom says not so loud. A lot of times HOH people talk loud cause they can't hear themselves or when they talk it sounds distorted so there brain tells them to talk louder. My mom never wants to talk in public(bus) because she's afraid ppl are going to listen.
Some HOH people talk loud... (I think you'll find this might be more often the case if they aren't or can't wear hearing aids/cochlear implants) but some talk soft.... My mum tells me I talk soft or mumble (I can actually speak clearly) I usually start off normal and trail off... but I THINK in my case I'm so used to someone running (talking) over me my whole life (my sister) that I trail off because I'm used to people losing interest in what I have to say. My older half-brother is also HOH although in his case he doesn't wear hearing aids (he REALLY should by now though his hearing has declined substantially) and he's a VERY soft talker. I believe also my dad was guilty of the same thing. (Hearing loss is genetic in my family)
I find this hilarious with the exaggerations but i do have a few things i wanna "clear up" for lack of better words,Hearing people (like myself), can selectively hear like in the bathroom we try to focus okkn the task at hand or think of other things to block out the other noises, we don't WANT to hear others do their business, it's just kinda the way it is, we do eavesdrop, we are most but we don't eavesdrop on every conversation we can, a lot of times, more often than not we block out conversations that aren't ours... with the whole dance thing, personally as a Tap Dancer I dance everywhere but I know that's not true for everyone obviously and I do think we should dance more often and appreciate accessibility to music, but hearing people don't dance for three reasons. One it's normal to hear music in the background for us, because it's everywhere, Two other hearing people find it weird that you are dancing and give you funny looks, wispers to their companion, etc., and three it distracts most from their task at hand.With talking over one another yep we can hear each other just not EVERYTHING that is being said
They hardly ever say what they mean, too. So in the Deaf community, everyone depends on direct and clear communication of needs, wants, thoughts. That way, no one has to guess the meaning of any particular statement. They rarely directly state these things in the hearing community, and it's even considered rude to do so.
I'm only a beginner at sign language (I'm HoH) and I'm following her signing pretty well, but the syntax seems to be more Signed English rather than ASL. Is that accurate? I don't get a lot of practice outside of my online lessons, so I struggle to see the difference.
Miles Max Davis-Matthews it's difficult to talk and sign at the same time. When you're doing both, one language always suffers and in this case, the ASL suffers. It's definitely more signed English than ASL.
ASL also changes depending on where someone's from in the US and how old their ASL is. For instance some of my signs are ARCHAIC (I guess, according to my friend Chris... who is substantially older than me.). but I do notice that with the OP some of her signs are different than the ones me and my friend use. That and Chris has told me that some of his friends from other states use vastly different signs than he uses/learned here.
This is also very true.It is incredibly varied. I live in Vancouver and some of the signs I use are entirely different from my friend in Tacoma. And she's been an interpreter for over a decade all over the states and has never seen some of them!
#1 for me would have to be how they don't look both ways before crossing roads. "Oh, I don't hear a car so it must be safe to jaywalk!" Then I have to swerve to avoid hitting them because I'm riding a bike. Gah!
Here's another big one: Hearing people don't like reading signs and insist om getting their information verbally. Whenever I have travelled with a hearing person they usually end up running off to ask someone for directions and when they get back to me to tell me what they learned from some random stranger I'd be like, "Yeah, it's that way. See this sign...?!" And in the store where I work, "Where's the restroom?" I'm always tempted to point to the sign rather than in the direction of the restroom.
OMGGGG YES!!! Fair point! I've NEVER thought to put that down to hearing vs non-hearing. I worked in a video store and one situation with a customer hiring a xbox360 game went down like this (although I will say this lady already had her knickers in a knot lol) - Me: That's $3.25. Lady: ^hands me $3^ Me: Um, sorry, it's $3.*25*. Her: *insert rant* You said $3 blah blah blah. Me: No I didn't I said $3.25. Why would I say $3 when I know it's $3.25 and all the signs in the store say it's $3.25? *indicates to all the signs around us*
Also I realise the saying goes the customer is always right but she had already been a brat about the dumbest thing moments earlier and she was in fact dead wrong anyways and I had like 20 signs in the store to back me up on the costs lmao!!!
i just started doing an online class for american sign language a few signs and would like feed back and no one will help me, i am hearing i just want feed back on a 30 second video telling other about my name and would like to know if i am doing right do you know of anyone who or website that would help.
A lot of the listening stuff just happens. It's not on purpose. Also, I hate dancing. It makes me uncomfortable. I enjoy singing. I will bob my head to the music. I love music, just not dancing
hey some of these I never thought about, the peeing one. I know I have always been nosy and I easedrop even with ASL convos. (rude I'm sorry, I'm working on it) also since I have been involved in d/Deaf community I have to look at people while talking.
As a hearing person who is interested in sign language but knows very little, I have a question. I know that ASL is its own language and has its own grammatical structure, however it seems as though whenever I am watching someone both signing and speaking they are using the grammatical structure of the spoken language. Why is this?
Cameron Caldwell short answer is that it's easier to sign what you are saying than to say what you are signing. It's sort of like trying to speak in English while writing in french I guess, although that's not a perfect analogy. It's just sort of hard for your brain to think in two languages at once so one language tends to out compete the other.
We do eavesdrop and talk over one another, and while we break eye contact it should only be brief or it is generally a sign of insecurity. Is it rude to eavesdrop on signed conversations?
Hearing culture is pretty weird, actually. The not looking at people when you talk to them and shouting from another room or talk to people while you are hidden by stuff is so frustrating to those who rely on seeing your face clearly in order to understand what you're saying. And we have to remind you several times a minute to face us and not do the hearing culture thing... *You, in this instance, is just an imagined hearing person. A general you.
1. We dont look at each other while talking because we can hear, we don't need to read lips, sign, or do any type of deaf communication while talking to each other because we can hear no problem and continue doing what were doing. Also, not making eye contact someones is considered rude but, unless I'm talking to someone who can't hear, I usually just don't look at them, I don't know why, I just don't like making eye contact or even looking at peoples faces. Not everyone does this. Just a few. 2. Listen to each other pee?... What? I'm not following this one, what do you mean? Do you mean being in the bathroom talking to someone while they're using the bathroom, or do you mean intentionally trying to listen to someone pee? I know 0 people who do the latter. So, I don't know what you're talking about. 3. I saw a video, I think it was yours? That said even deaf people sometimes wish to know what someone else is talking about but lip reading isn't exactly good for that. We can hear, we can listen to someone talk from many feet away without having to depend on lip reading or signing so yeah. Sometimes, we eavesdrop. You would if you could to. Most of the time I eavesdrop I hear what the person is saying and go "oh, cool... " then forget it 5 seconds later to talk about what I want to talk about to my friends. 4. Not dancing to music just because it's playing. Being able to hear you take some things for granted, such as being able to hear music. So why not dance? Well, because it's embarrassing to dance in public, it's not socially acceptable to just break out in dance because some elevator music is playing (Lol, I know you don't mean elevator music but still) just because music is playing doesn't mean we HAVE to dance, yet, some people still do, cause they don't care. I mean, I've seen people listening to music on their phone singing along to it and dancing to it. You think everyone wasn't laughing? He couldn't hear us anyway, he had headphones in. 5. Talking over one another is considered rude, you come from an Italian family so I mean... that's not surprising that you see it a lot. Lmao. "How can you even understand each other??" You can't. If 2 people are talking at the same time, they're not listening to a single thing the other is saying and couldn't, even if they tried repeat what they said. Usually when multiple people are talking and it is pertaining to a single situation, I hear the first word of each person's sentence, then the last and base my opinion / sentence off of those 2 because most of the time it will be correct. Still infuriates me when someone talks over me though, if someone else is talking I won't talk because it's just plain out bad manners. I know this video is supposed to be humorous so I'm not taking it seriously, I'm just inputting my opinion for if others who are deaf think the same thing, even as a joke, and want a tad bit of insight into why people do this, or at least someones opinion on it.
slowfire2 Not as much as you might think. I see other signers and pay attention for a second, enough to catch a couple words of ASL as opposed to natural gestures, and will relay, "Hey, they sign!" to my husband, but that's as far as it normally goes. I try not to pay attention after that.
Number 4 is kind of a personal thing... would you just start dancing on the street?? About that one with peeing should we put our fingers in our ears while being on the toilet??It may all be weird to you but we really can't help it...
but also in the same line of thought I've seen deaf people who are signing, sign at the same time. wouldn't that be the equivalent of talking over each other?
Another weird thing is they mumble or don't not enuciate their words clearly. As a D/HH person, I cannot understand what they are saying. You'd think they would want people to understand what they are saying?
All i see on these comments is a bunch of hearing people trying to justify themselves on a video that's not suppose to be taken that seriously in the first place😂
Stefanie Feltman Stefanie Feltman It seems very judgmental, she is all about expression and I understand that but we do not listen to eachother pee and not all of us stops looking at eachother in a conversation or talks over each other, it's stereotyping hearing people to seem rude and that's why hearing people feel the need to justify themselves, I know that I always look at someone during a conversation unless I look off for a millisecond to think about what I am going to say, I also have enough manners to let the other person speak and for gods sake I do not listen to others pee, I don't even like listening to myself pee, I shove tissue down public toilets to mute my urine..
Stefanie Feltman Two wrongs don't make a right, don't try and get the final say if you don't enjoy arguing online. I don't stereotype deaf people, to be honest, I don't care, I'm not saying that to hurt any deaf people, it's generally none of my business and I'm not going to give pity knowing that a lot of people with disadvantages hate that, therefore I won't involve myself, but I have been stereotyped and offended and I have the right to defend myself.
I don't agree with most of these things tho. it's not our fault we hear others pee so how is that weird? we don't intentionally go to the bathroom to hear others pee. also about the dance, won't it be weird if everywhere we go to we dance? it'd be as if we are mad and we won't even be able to accomplish our purpose for being there in the first place.. it's not weird it's just normal
To hear and to listen are two different concepts. That is obvious. There used to be different signs for them in ASL, but alas the sign for 'listen' has pushed away the sign for 'hear' and became predominant in usage. For deaf people, it appears they think hearing people are listening to every sound.
Sorry if you've talked about this before (I just found your channel), but how are you able to talk to perfectly if you're deaf? I don't know much about what it's like to be deaf but I would imagine it's hard to learn how to talk correctly if you can't hear yourself/compare how you speak to others.
Depends when she went Deaf. How much speech therapy she has had. How much residual Hearing she has. In an earlier video she mentions she' has no natural hearing but she sometimes wears a cochlear implant to hear, she grew up Hard of Hearing with her hearing deteriorating. So speaking orally was her first language(or languages I don't know if she knows any other languages beside English and ASL)
These are generalizations of hearing people. You use the terms "ALWAYS", "EVERYtime". I found all 5 of these to be untrue. I don't know what kind of hearing people you are hanging out with...but this is not true of ALL hearing people. Maybe they are new to deaf culture and are ignorant as to how we communicate. Honestly this video is kinda offensive.
Emily Quinones offensive? are you joking? have you ever been discriminated against because you can hear?? the damn video is obviously exaggerated for comedic purposes.
@@keeleybella9257 , it' a satire video. She's being funny. Like" Hearing People are weird because they all know there's a Thunderstorm outside without even looking. Hearing People are weird because they converse in the dark". Get it? :)
Great video! My mom is deaf so these topics have all come up before.
1. We usually keep eye contact with strangers or somebody we are in an intense discussion with because we do have to read body language in those situations. But idle chit chat between friends and family doesn't have to be visual at all. There are so many nuances we pick up in the speech of people we know that visual language stops mattering.
2. This is the hardest for my mom to grasp, but we can selectively hear. The same way we can listen to a single person in a large crowd, we can also dim noises we don't care about (peeing) by thinking about other stuff or focusing on the task at hand. Just because a noise is being made around us doesn't mean we are listening to it.
3. So this is the same thing! We automatically tune out so much noise and eavesdropping has to be intentional.
Anyhow, loved the video.
I have something to add! Even though I am trying to learn ASL, I watched this video with the sound on and ended up looking at AND READING something else while listening to you speak instead of just watching you sign.
My mom plays games on her computer while listening to tv shows in the background.
We multi task our senses instead of using them all to focus on and immerse ourselves in one activity we use vision for one thing, hearing for another. It's not just communication.
For your mother, television is no longer a visual medium. It has become a teleblahblah. The TV-Program she chose must be BAD, not worth to be WATCHed.
about eavesdropping i don't think it's really our fault because if people talk loud enough for us to hear un a public space, then the conversation is not so private, and sometimes you can't just distract yourself and do another thing, it's involuntary... of course we can choose wether or not to pay attention to it but still it's hard xD
But the thing is Francisca if a hearing person has a convo in front of us (say a group of 3 friends and the 3rd is deaf) and we say Pardon? they often tell you Don't Worry.... as if we were strangers not meant to hear the conversation. So even though granted it may not be your fault that you hear other things it's rude when hearing people turn around and say things like that to us and make us feel guilty as if we were eavesdropping or left out.
As a HOH person, I get that a lot too, basically dismissed because I couldn't keep up. Now I'm left out and keeping quiet cause I don't know what the conversation is about.
This is so true! I may not do a lot of them (mainly because my autism and that fact that my Brain works differently) but I have a large family and J can say from experience that this is so true, especially the one about talking over each other.
Not every hearing person is like what you're explaining! :) I look at the people I talk with. And eavesdropping, where we ate lunch today,, three deaf people were at a table. I kept looking over at them. I teach a sign class and my bf is deaf, but like you, talks! :) great video!
Thanks, Amanda.
Beautiful video Amanda. Very informative. Watching from London.
I have autism, so I can’t possibly block out the world. Conversations are the loudest thing in my ear to me, and I can’t block them out even if I want to, so all I can do is dissociate.
(Hearing for 20 years then HoH and signing for several now) Some people you can't NOT hear. If you don't want other people to hear a conversation, save the conversation for somewhere where other people can't hear. Sometimes you just can't tune stuff out. You just... hear it.
You made me laugh an lot because you're so right on.!
Lots of this stuff you say is true but most of the things we do are kinda natural
I think that's the point of the video. The things come off natural or normal to me and you, but she is saying her opinion as a deaf person...
A lot of these like listening in on people going to the bathroom or listening in on a conversation isn't intentional, you can just hear them in the background.
1. I rarely eavesdrop unless I can't avoid it. I just focus on something else.
2. We can easily use the tone of our voice to express how we feel, we don't always need body language to cue us. If it's a serious subject, though, we do look at each other.
3. I never pay attention to anyone next to me in a stall unless they're being REALLY loud. Usually only when there's a little kid making noise.
4. I do dance all the time. But there are situtions where people would stare at me if I were to dance out when I'm shopping, so I tend to sing to myself more than dance. My daughter is a dancer and she goes all out if she enjoys the song. My husband doesn't enjoy music so he blocks it out.
5. I would say most people talk over each other if they are arguing. But it's individual. Some people constantly do and I can't stand it.
This is all very true. Number 1 being the saddest😢! As always, Thank You for sharing!
its really interesting to hear your perspective of things we don't notice or take for granted. I really like your videos I enjoy watching you sign its so cool
Hey Amanda! Love your videos! One thing I noticed was how you Simcom, (simultaneously communicating). The reason I mentioned this is because when you speak in English but you sign, you aren’t using true ASL it gets broken and you use English word order. Still able to follow, it’s just a little difficult. Anyway, keep up the great work!
I've never understood the bathroom thing either!! It is even weirder when someone is listening through the door at your house and then comments on what they heard.
I don't dance to music everywhere, usually because it sucks.
The neighbor's cat just came in, by the way, and I would not be able to let him in if I could not hear him scratching at the door. He is a mind control cat who gets what he wants because he is so friendly :-)
I'm sure this has been said already.
You say we listen to other relieve themselves as if we (hearing ppls) actively seek out the sounds of someone relieving themselves.
But as a hearing person I'd like to clarify (probably again) that the only time we hear it is if it's a public restroom, and at that point it's basically like thunder. Or being in public and hearing cars. Were not necessarily TRYING to hear it. But we cant control it. If it makes alot noise and were in close proximity. Its inevitable
This made me laugh! The talking over each other I complain about and I'm hearing. Although as I'm getting older, I might fall into the hard of hearing catagory. Thank you!
Think about it like your sight. You rely on your sight like we do on our hearing. If you were looking out your window waiting for the mailman and your eyes catch the neighbor in their window doing something. You couldn't help but see it and it's really no your fault. So hearing some one pee isn't something we can control. And talking over each other is like looking at a screen of lights. It's hard to see all of them but some are brighter or more colorful than others. So when we are talking over each other we can pick up specific sounds coming from the specific persons voice. Relying on sound allows us to pick up on various noice coming from different places. But these noises can overwhelm us. Make it impossible for the simplest communication. But after losing some hearing a few years ago I do find my self actively looking at people faces while talking and getting frustrated when the turn or move to do something else. And as for music... not all music is for dancing and not all music is suited for our interest. Just like art. Some art you go to a gallery to look at others you got to a park to sit on.
What u said in this video it’s true cause I was born hearing but now I’m deaf and it’ scary to me cause I don’t know any deaf friends and I love to dance and sing too ni do appreciate music I was raised learning music so it’ is scary and I’m also shy but I’m trying to learn sign language on my own and I wish I had someone to sign with love your videos thank you very much
hey this is years late but this is some of my personal answers. (sorry for the long comment!)
1) Sometimes instead of body language I use the way that someone's voice sounds to know the context of what they are saying. Like if their voice sounds high and fast they might be upset or exited so by using those cues it decreases they need to look directly at them especially since some hearing people get uncomfortable if you stare at them hard.
2&3)Unfortunately we can not stop our self from hearing specific things. if we could not hear each other in the bathroom we wouldn't. Think of hearing like a giant net thrown in a river. it picks up everything from fish to trash regardless of what you want. so even if we do not know someone we will still hear their conversation if they do not whisper quietly. It is why some people get mad when people talk loudly in the movie theater. the person talking's voice can out talk the movie.
4)It's not that we are not appreciating the music. some music is specifically for relaxation and other times the music is just supposed to be background noise. some hearing people find complete silence unnerving so the background music is just there as white noise.
5) 5 is related to 2&3 since we can not control what we hear we have to get used to processing lots of sounds at once. So as long as no one is yelling too loudly everyone talking should be able to be heard. But sometimes it can be hard depending on the circumstances.
The answers to your questions are: Sound travels, comes in from every direction (you can't face away and not hear it) and we don't posses "earlids". If somebody is discussing something loudly we hear it. If somebody is peeing and the sound travels we hear it.
Sounds are all different. Most people have unique voices. In a noisy place it can be quite possible to distinguish the person you are talking to from people in the background and the music playing. Usually that is.. Think of it this way: Explain to a blind person how you can look at a busy street and only see the big red truck that says "Joe's Plumbing" on the side or look at a forest and only see the Robin on a tree branch..
Being surrounded by sounds since birth we learn to separate them and ignore the ones that are not of interest. Right now I can hear the TV downstairs, the Thunderstorm outside, my buddy talking, this TH-cam video and the cat meowing. All three have very different sounds and are easy to separate. All I care about is your video so the rest is just ignored.
amanda....ur one of the most beautiful girls alive and i know this may sound weird...but the fact that u struggle with hearing loss just makes you that much more beautiful to me
Ahaha, I eavesdrop like that, people on the next table, people on the bus. Although I dance all the time I hear music, and sing along. But I'm a musician. :)
All the answer from this questions is becasue we can hear lmao. we dont look at eachother because we have hear the tone of voice. we talk over eachother because we want them to listen to us we can still hear them it just we need them to hear us aswell or we believe we have somthng better to say. listening to someone pee is like putting a hole in a water bottle and letting it fall doesnt sound different i dont personally listen to people pee but... we listen to others because we hear what they say and its juicy lmao its their business and its crazy sometimes. we dont appeciate music because we hear it 24/7 its no longer something we are amazed over its like a color blind person asking "why dont seeing people appreciate colors, they wear black and white and paint neutral colors. If i could see color i would use them all over"
1. I can skip. We should pay more attention
2. Trust me. I wish I didn’t have to listen to others in the restroom. That one you can’t control
3. Eavesdropping is fun. There are so many different layers we’d have to talk in person
4. I would love to constantly dance to the music around me but as a hearing person, I don’t hear it unless I’m really bored in the store and it’s loud enough
5. We don’t. That’s the thing. We try to talk over one another but we can’t. 7/8 of the time I talk over someone it’s to make them shut up. The other 1/8 is to finish my thought since I can never keep my words in order while trying to understand the other person.
About eavesdropping:
I get it a lot, people STARING at me while I have conversations. I look up and voice, "Can I help you?" They smile uncomfortable, "No, I was just watching."
Seriously, I want to go up to two hearing people and stare them down in conversation and use the same excuse. Will it be rude? Yes! So why is it okay one way but not the other??
we don't loot at each other? lol love u
I love signing and the deaf community but most of these things are incorrect. We can't stop ourselves from listening to each other use the bathroom or eavesdropping.
We don't dance to all the music we hear because it is usually in locations that dancing is somewhat inappropriate to do. I get easily overwhelmed with excessive sounds in a building or crowd. Going shopping can actually be hard for a hearing person, especially a mom, because you are juggling kids, your grocery list, hearing others talking, music playing, beeping from the check out lines, and sometimes managers paging someone. It honestly gets to be WAY too much!
I am hard of hearing and I love it when they play music everywhere, BUT there is a time and place to dance. I can't start dancing at a restuarant because the music playing or doctor's office where the music is meant to calm the atmosphere. Again, don't get me wrong, hey I even dance at the supermarket aisles cause it makes food shopping more fun and people generally join in and smile, hehehe. It's just the time and place because music is universal language that we all human beings understand that puts us on the same page in a lot areas, events, stores, community etc.....
I'm hearing and I think it's weird as well when people don't dance to music whenever they hear it. I'm at the very least head-bopping or tapping my foot to whatever is playing. I can't help it, I don't know how others can!
#1 is so true it's not only weird but RUDE. I am of course guilty of this but it is true. And was it #2 hearing others go to the bathroom. I hate that so much! I wish there was a way to not hear even myself let alone others lol
No wonder, there is always a queue in front of the entrance to ladies' room.
I totally eavesdrop, usually on purpose. I like to know everything that's going on around me and generally that information comes in handy at some point later (not usually malicious!) Otherwise Cool thing about having the ability to hear your whole life, your brain can actually turn off some sounds. Kind of like your brain can turn off smells that you've been around for a long time. There are a lot of electronics and appliances and other things in a house that buzz or let off a quiet high pitched whine and honestly our brain will just shut it off. We literally won't be able to hear it unless you point it out and then we're like "OH! I didn't notice...". I know that people who are able to have their hearing given to them later in life go a little crazy for the first several weeks because their brain is new to hearing and does not have that shut-off system for a while and so the newly hearing person hears EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME and it's a little much for them. :) Just thought that was something neat to share.
I like the video, Im hearing, and took Deaf studies for 3 years in Frederick, MD. So.... I wanted to comment/ explain about some of them.
2. We cant help listening to others pee in a stall, so I guess we are just stuck listening to them pee.
3. We do eavesdrop a lot, I will admit that. I think the hearing culture is just nosey by nature.
4. We don't dance in public, well, some people do, but It is kind of embarrassing, or viewed as a bit low class. It is kind of a negative thing. I remember when i was growing up, my mom would tap, or pop me when i would do something like that, she would say "you aren't going to embarrass me in public!" So It is not viewed as something positive, unless you are on summer break, and partying in vegas, or something.
5. Yes, we do talk over one another, it is a bad trait that we have. Some people feel the need to be heard, some feel their point is more important than yours, and some just don't realize they are doing it.
They jump from topic to topic so fast it's like they never end a conversation before starting a new one and when asking questions they don't Wait for an answer before asking another question
#2 is the worst 🤢that’s why I rarely use public restrooms...
I enjoy music on the inside 😂
Who listens to other people pee?? Who told you that? I think they were just teasing you.
I couldn't imagine being deaf and autistic. The very thing that is so important when you are deaf, things like body language and facial expressions are so hard for a lot of autistic people. But At the same time, it just another form of communication, so I imagine it prob wouldn't be any easier or harder either way. I am still trying to teach myself ASL, not because I know anyone who is deaf, cause I don't, I just want to know sign language.
yea the thing about eavesdropping is sometimes people are loud or you do it on purpose just to make sure people aren't talking about you or your listening to others so you can jump in and saying something so you feel apart of the conversation(I get ignored-no one asked me about anything at Thanksgiving). Also I hate when ppl tell me i'm too loud or my mom says not so loud. A lot of times HOH people talk loud cause they can't hear themselves or when they talk it sounds distorted so there brain tells them to talk louder. My mom never wants to talk in public(bus) because she's afraid ppl are going to listen.
Some HOH people talk loud... (I think you'll find this might be more often the case if they aren't or can't wear hearing aids/cochlear implants) but some talk soft.... My mum tells me I talk soft or mumble (I can actually speak clearly) I usually start off normal and trail off... but I THINK in my case I'm so used to someone running (talking) over me my whole life (my sister) that I trail off because I'm used to people losing interest in what I have to say. My older half-brother is also HOH although in his case he doesn't wear hearing aids (he REALLY should by now though his hearing has declined substantially) and he's a VERY soft talker. I believe also my dad was guilty of the same thing. (Hearing loss is genetic in my family)
I find this hilarious with the exaggerations but i do have a few things i wanna "clear up" for lack of better words,Hearing people (like myself), can selectively hear like in the bathroom we try to focus okkn the task at hand or think of other things to block out the other noises, we don't WANT to hear others do their business, it's just kinda the way it is, we do eavesdrop, we are most but we don't eavesdrop on every conversation we can, a lot of times, more often than not we block out conversations that aren't ours... with the whole dance thing, personally as a Tap Dancer I dance everywhere but I know that's not true for everyone obviously and I do think we should dance more often and appreciate accessibility to music, but hearing people don't dance for three reasons. One it's normal to hear music in the background for us, because it's everywhere, Two other hearing people find it weird that you are dancing and give you funny looks, wispers to their companion, etc., and three it distracts most from their task at hand.With talking over one another yep we can hear each other just not EVERYTHING that is being said
its because as you probably know we Italians always want to be at the center of every conversation
They hardly ever say what they mean, too. So in the Deaf community, everyone depends on direct and clear communication of needs, wants, thoughts. That way, no one has to guess the meaning of any particular statement. They rarely directly state these things in the hearing community, and it's even considered rude to do so.
I'm only a beginner at sign language (I'm HoH) and I'm following her signing pretty well, but the syntax seems to be more Signed English rather than ASL. Is that accurate? I don't get a lot of practice outside of my online lessons, so I struggle to see the difference.
Miles Max Davis-Matthews it's difficult to talk and sign at the same time. When you're doing both, one language always suffers and in this case, the ASL suffers. It's definitely more signed English than ASL.
Gotcha. Thank you!
ASL also changes depending on where someone's from in the US and how old their ASL is. For instance some of my signs are ARCHAIC (I guess, according to my friend Chris... who is substantially older than me.). but I do notice that with the OP some of her signs are different than the ones me and my friend use. That and Chris has told me that some of his friends from other states use vastly different signs than he uses/learned here.
This is also very true.It is incredibly varied. I live in Vancouver and some of the signs I use are entirely different from my friend in Tacoma. And she's been an interpreter for over a decade all over the states and has never seen some of them!
nice
Are you using PSE or ASL? I'm interested in learning sign language and was just curious as to which you were using.
There's a small typo in look vs loot in the first point
#5 I hate the most I'm totally lost.
#1 for me would have to be how they don't look both ways before crossing roads. "Oh, I don't hear a car so it must be safe to jaywalk!" Then I have to swerve to avoid hitting them because I'm riding a bike. Gah!
Here's another big one: Hearing people don't like reading signs and insist om getting their information verbally. Whenever I have travelled with a hearing person they usually end up running off to ask someone for directions and when they get back to me to tell me what they learned from some random stranger I'd be like, "Yeah, it's that way. See this sign...?!" And in the store where I work, "Where's the restroom?" I'm always tempted to point to the sign rather than in the direction of the restroom.
OMGGGG YES!!! Fair point! I've NEVER thought to put that down to hearing vs non-hearing. I worked in a video store and one situation with a customer hiring a xbox360 game went down like this (although I will say this lady already had her knickers in a knot lol) - Me: That's $3.25. Lady: ^hands me $3^ Me: Um, sorry, it's $3.*25*. Her: *insert rant* You said $3 blah blah blah. Me: No I didn't I said $3.25. Why would I say $3 when I know it's $3.25 and all the signs in the store say it's $3.25? *indicates to all the signs around us*
Also I realise the saying goes the customer is always right but she had already been a brat about the dumbest thing moments earlier and she was in fact dead wrong anyways and I had like 20 signs in the store to back me up on the costs lmao!!!
Obviously, the customer was hearing, He (genderless) just did not want to hear. He was just hearingless.
??? I always look before crossing. Although, I'm hard of hearing, so I guess I'm a lot more visual anyway?
i just started doing an online class for american sign language a few signs and would like feed back and no one will help me, i am hearing i just want feed back on a 30 second video telling other about my name and would like to know if i am doing right do you know of anyone who or website that would help.
A lot of the listening stuff just happens. It's not on purpose.
Also, I hate dancing. It makes me uncomfortable. I enjoy singing. I will bob my head to the music. I love music, just not dancing
hey some of these I never thought about, the peeing one. I know I have always been nosy and I easedrop even with ASL convos. (rude I'm sorry, I'm working on it) also since I have been involved in d/Deaf community I have to look at people while talking.
As a hearing person who is interested in sign language but knows very little, I have a question. I know that ASL is its own language and has its own grammatical structure, however it seems as though whenever I am watching someone both signing and speaking they are using the grammatical structure of the spoken language. Why is this?
Cameron Caldwell short answer is that it's easier to sign what you are saying than to say what you are signing. It's sort of like trying to speak in English while writing in french I guess, although that's not a perfect analogy. It's just sort of hard for your brain to think in two languages at once so one language tends to out compete the other.
Hearing people pee is no big deal. Listening to the sounds of defecation is what's terrible.
We do eavesdrop and talk over one another, and while we break eye contact it should only be brief or it is generally a sign of insecurity.
Is it rude to eavesdrop on signed conversations?
I hate No. 5 my family does it all the time -.-
Hearing culture is pretty weird, actually. The not looking at people when you talk to them and shouting from another room or talk to people while you are hidden by stuff is so frustrating to those who rely on seeing your face clearly in order to understand what you're saying. And we have to remind you several times a minute to face us and not do the hearing culture thing...
*You, in this instance, is just an imagined hearing person. A general you.
#5 really annoys me, especially when I'm around my hearing friends
1. We dont look at each other while talking because we can hear, we don't need to read lips, sign, or do any type of deaf communication while talking to each other because we can hear no problem and continue doing what were doing. Also, not making eye contact someones is considered rude but, unless I'm talking to someone who can't hear, I usually just don't look at them, I don't know why, I just don't like making eye contact or even looking at peoples faces. Not everyone does this. Just a few.
2. Listen to each other pee?... What? I'm not following this one, what do you mean? Do you mean being in the bathroom talking to someone while they're using the bathroom, or do you mean intentionally trying to listen to someone pee? I know 0 people who do the latter. So, I don't know what you're talking about.
3. I saw a video, I think it was yours? That said even deaf people sometimes wish to know what someone else is talking about but lip reading isn't exactly good for that. We can hear, we can listen to someone talk from many feet away without having to depend on lip reading or signing so yeah. Sometimes, we eavesdrop. You would if you could to. Most of the time I eavesdrop I hear what the person is saying and go "oh, cool... " then forget it 5 seconds later to talk about what I want to talk about to my friends.
4. Not dancing to music just because it's playing. Being able to hear you take some things for granted, such as being able to hear music. So why not dance? Well, because it's embarrassing to dance in public, it's not socially acceptable to just break out in dance because some elevator music is playing (Lol, I know you don't mean elevator music but still) just because music is playing doesn't mean we HAVE to dance, yet, some people still do, cause they don't care. I mean, I've seen people listening to music on their phone singing along to it and dancing to it. You think everyone wasn't laughing? He couldn't hear us anyway, he had headphones in.
5. Talking over one another is considered rude, you come from an Italian family so I mean... that's not surprising that you see it a lot. Lmao. "How can you even understand each other??" You can't. If 2 people are talking at the same time, they're not listening to a single thing the other is saying and couldn't, even if they tried repeat what they said. Usually when multiple people are talking and it is pertaining to a single situation, I hear the first word of each person's sentence, then the last and base my opinion / sentence off of those 2 because most of the time it will be correct. Still infuriates me when someone talks over me though, if someone else is talking I won't talk because it's just plain out bad manners.
I know this video is supposed to be humorous so I'm not taking it seriously, I'm just inputting my opinion for if others who are deaf think the same thing, even as a joke, and want a tad bit of insight into why people do this, or at least someones opinion on it.
People who speak a sign language can easily be broadcasting to a whole room. Don't deaf people look at conversations that doesn't concern them?
slowfire2 Not as much as you might think. I see other signers and pay attention for a second, enough to catch a couple words of ASL as opposed to natural gestures, and will relay, "Hey, they sign!" to my husband, but that's as far as it normally goes. I try not to pay attention after that.
Number 4 is kind of a personal thing... would you just start dancing on the street?? About that one with peeing should we put our fingers in our ears while being on the toilet??It may all be weird to you but we really can't help it...
but also in the same line of thought I've seen deaf people who are signing, sign at the same time. wouldn't that be the equivalent of talking over each other?
That would make a funny video/ I mean a group of deaf people all trying to "talk" over each other with the signing getting more and more violent.
Another weird thing is they mumble or don't not enuciate their words clearly. As a D/HH person, I cannot understand what they are saying. You'd think they would want people to understand what they are saying?
We all love you, but you have to also do 5 weird things that Deaf people do, so that we won't think you don't like us. ;)
All i see on these comments is a bunch of hearing people trying to justify themselves on a video that's not suppose to be taken that seriously in the first place😂
Stefanie Feltman Stefanie Feltman It seems very judgmental, she is all about expression and I understand that but we do not listen to eachother pee and not all of us stops looking at eachother in a conversation or talks over each other, it's stereotyping hearing people to seem rude and that's why hearing people feel the need to justify themselves, I know that I always look at someone during a conversation unless I look off for a millisecond to think about what I am going to say, I also have enough manners to let the other person speak and for gods sake I do not listen to others pee, I don't even like listening to myself pee, I shove tissue down public toilets to mute my urine..
...you're taking it too serious
Stefanie Feltman Yes I am, I do not like to be stereotyped.
Stefanie Feltman Two wrongs don't make a right, don't try and get the final say if you don't enjoy arguing online. I don't stereotype deaf people, to be honest, I don't care, I'm not saying that to hurt any deaf people, it's generally none of my business and I'm not going to give pity knowing that a lot of people with disadvantages hate that, therefore I won't involve myself, but I have been stereotyped and offended and I have the right to defend myself.
diddlesminecraft x haha okay
I don't agree with most of these things tho. it's not our fault we hear others pee so how is that weird? we don't intentionally go to the bathroom to hear others pee. also about the dance, won't it be weird if everywhere we go to we dance? it'd be as if we are mad and we won't even be able to accomplish our purpose for being there in the first place.. it's not weird it's just normal
To hear and to listen are two different concepts. That is obvious. There used to be different signs for them in ASL, but alas the sign for 'listen' has pushed away the sign for 'hear' and became predominant in usage. For deaf people, it appears they think hearing people are listening to every sound.
Sorry if you've talked about this before (I just found your channel), but how are you able to talk to perfectly if you're deaf? I don't know much about what it's like to be deaf but I would imagine it's hard to learn how to talk correctly if you can't hear yourself/compare how you speak to others.
Depends when she went Deaf. How much speech therapy she has had. How much residual Hearing she has. In an earlier video she mentions she' has no natural hearing but she sometimes wears a cochlear implant to hear, she grew up Hard of Hearing with her hearing deteriorating. So speaking orally was her first language(or languages I don't know if she knows any other languages beside English and ASL)
Jeremy Finn If she was born this way..it would be years and years of speech therapy as I had.
She wasn't born deaf
These are generalizations of hearing people. You use the terms "ALWAYS", "EVERYtime". I found all 5 of these to be untrue. I don't know what kind of hearing people you are hanging out with...but this is not true of ALL hearing people. Maybe they are new to deaf culture and are ignorant as to how we communicate. Honestly this video is kinda offensive.
Agree
Thanks or your comment Emily. It is menat to be a humorous video. Try not to take it so seriously. :)
Emily Quinones offensive? are you joking? have you ever been discriminated against because you can hear?? the damn video is obviously exaggerated for comedic purposes.
You can't seriously mean you got offended, jesus christ.
@@keeleybella9257 , it' a satire video. She's being funny. Like" Hearing People are weird because they all know there's a Thunderstorm outside without even looking. Hearing People are weird because they converse in the dark". Get it? :)