HOBBY NIGHTMARES! ARMY DESTROYED BY TOXIC OPPONENT (Extra North Rage Warning)
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Had something similar happen in a Star Wars Legion game I took part in. The dude was constantly mismeasuring, arguing with rules, and gloating whenever he scored a hit. I had a Rebel Army with a Luke that I put a lot of work into, to include an LED lightsaber. This idiot, when he was able to knock Luke out, FLICKED him off the table. This broke the lightsaber off and somehow detached one of the LED wires from the conductive undercoat. The organizer just stared at him before saying, "Get out and if you ever come back to this store, you'll be trespassed." He ended up putting a formal complaint on the guy through Fantast Flight Games that prevented him from entering registered tournaments for two years.
sorry that happened to you and thats fookin insane! if someone ever did that to my stuff, Im throwing hands!
Did you manage to fix it?
@@brookpederson738sorry big man
I'm glad justice was served. What a sore winner.
had this sort of thing happen while delivering an army to a customer that i had just finished painting for. he was a regular at the LGS, and i guess he had a reputation as having tough armies. as i was walking in, he had just finished a game and his opponent was already red in the face. as i called out to my customer and told him i had his new army ready, his opponent came over and smacked the box out of my hand, sending it into the wall nearby. now... i do a lot of custom work, including special bases, a bit of kitbashing, and some personal touches as requested. so hearing all that smash and break as this guy (and he's like 50) loses his cool and targetted the guy's new army. needless to say, guy was banned from every game shop within the area, was banned from any gaming conventions, and the cops were called. he was arrested and the guy took him to court to get restitution for the damage (about $5000 of minis were wrecked), and i redid the whole thing, but he was cool enough to pay me a bit extra for having to do it all a second time.
total asshole move by that guy
This is heartcrushing to read. I have deep respect for all this work in the minis and destroying such things especially unique things (in a way all minis are unique) is like destroying a part of their creators.
You should have been paid in full on that jerk's dime.
@@bladerdj3503”destroying part of their creators”🤣🤣
I see a lot of adults throwing tantrums like this these days, it’s like people are regressing into children as they grow older.
Man, at the cost of a Mastodon, I think you could very well have called the cops and pressed charges for destruction of property. It's likely a misdemeanor, but putting him through getting arrested, making bail and showing up for court would have been pretty sweet revenge. It's no more than he deserved. He's lucky the community is what it is.
It's not just destruction of property, it's flat-out vandalism. Sure, he'd likely just get a fine and have to pay for a new one, but still.
I'll say it: It is naked terrorism.
Paying hundreds of dollars for a plastic model is absurd. It makes me care so much less about shit like this.
Mini worth goes up when a mini has a good paintjob, so it could have taken it into felony territory in the US.
not a lot of experience with cops huh? they wont do shit over 'toys' (their words) and will likely try and hem you up when you leave.
Just found this video, wanted to share a quick story.
I was playing in a 40K tournament at MEGACON in Orlando Florida. As I recall there were about 50-ish players there, I was playing Orks back in the day and had a fairly fun and solid list that included a "Sniffer Squig" the rule for this was that no Callidus could polymorph into any Ork as long as they were within 18" of the Squig. I also took a teleport scrambler which caused deep strikers to double their scatter distance. I made it to the final table against a Space wolves player that had all deep strikers save one squad and a Callidus assassin. After I set up I explained that he couldn't use his polymorphine and had to deploy normally, which would obviously be bad for the assassin. He pitched a fit and called the tournament organizer over who verified my rules as being correct. After this he won first turn so I reminded him about the teleport scrambler, which I had mentioned after setting up. Needless to say he attempted to teleport all his terminators down right in front of my lines at various locations. One squad landed on a mob and was auto destroyed as they could not deploy, another had double 6s for scatter which sent them off the board and his final two squads scattered out of range of his guns. This further infuriated him as I just rolled forward with 50ish Orks and various vehicles etc and proceeded to kill all but 2 of the 10 terminators. at which point he was chucking his models (nicely painted I might add) into a box breaking arms and legs and weapons galore. To his credit he did concede after that. To top it off I had a battle wagon that I used to put the helmets/heads of interesting armies I had beaten in tournaments and fun campaigns. At one point folks were just painting up helmets to put on my battle wagon's banner as it was well known in central florida. I probably shouldn't have, but I asked if he would paint a Space Wolf helmet for my Battle Wagon's banner, he looked at me, picked up one of his basic marines and bit the head off and spit it on the table. I had a couple friends who were with me, so I picked up the helmet and grabbed my glue and put it on the battle wagon right then and there, which drew a ton of laughter from most of the folks who had witnessed his poor sportsmanship.
lmao my friggin sides are in orbit sir.
That's fucking brilliant man .... I am standing in my forge literally roaring laughter....
LOL, Incredible
Best war gaming mic drop Ive heard to date
Bruh the disrespect to his own models is unbelievable
He tries to destroy a £400 tank because you handed him some models gently.
I would never touch anyone's models without asking first.
Play with my money you play with your .. health
The real criminal here is the guy who made a plastic tank 400 bucks
@@Glyff3083 I thought it was Resin?
@@Glyff3083
1) the Mastodon is a resin casted tank
2) It's a $610 or 610 bucks PRE TAX, the guy paid (After taxes) 400 euros, british pounds, not USD!
If they were to make the Mastodon into plastic, it would probably be around $250-300 bucks or 175 Euros
Source: A guy who owns an Astraeus ($443.34 after tax in my area, USD), has had banter with Horus Heresy enjoyers, and would've happily argued with the TO and held the man captive in a hold until we fished out his wallet, and charged him ~$700 USD for a new Mastodon.
Hell, I would've called the police and argued that because the model is assembled and painted (it took me about 8 hours of effort to get the Astraeus assembled properly, resin you have to shave away, heat up, mold into place, etc) even if you charged the man minimum wage, the tank's value would likely be at or above $1,000, which is $500 more than you need for a Class a Misdemeanor for property damage, but if you can get the cop to agree with you that the man likely spent 30-100 hours on the tank, all you need to do is convince the officer that the value of the model is $1500.01 or more, and it's a felony. (numbers may vary from state to state)
Class A misdemeanor = up to 1 year jail time and up to $1000 fine.
Felony is OOF = 18 months - 24 months jail time (no less) and up to $10,000 fine.
Being a father of four with a single income means getting new models is an especially rare event for me especially a big centerpiece model. I'm protective of my stuff to put it mildly. It's not much of a comparison to his model but the closest I have is a landraider. If that happened to me I'd be out for blood, and I'm one of the most laid back people you'll ever meet
I am starting to see that maybe this guy had the patience of a saint, it was painful to read though.
Same here pal it takes a lot for me to see red but if that player did that to my miniatures he would be in the hospital on a life support machine
With the way GW are bumping their prices constantly, im in a similar situation, struggle financially so looking into 3d printing, intial cost is high to get started, but after that its cheap as hell!
If you have big of a family perhaps you should find a cheaper hobby instead of pissing away your money on stupid little models
How the author didn't demand police be called for vandalism or something is amazing.
@KanashiiFX Then I would have demanded the idiot pay in full for the new model, or hand over his army, in compensation. Having someone else fix a model that idiot broke, even for free, doesn't sit right at all.
They would have had to call the police on me because there is no way I would have contained my anger. Beat down incoming.
@KanashiiFX there's a dollar value threshold at least in the states where just 'destroying a little toy' is actually a felony, which if you decide to press charges, can nicely f-up someone's life
Well i mean destroying a toy is still destruction of property, it is a material item that belongs to someone, therefore is a possession/property. You can claim a £15 wing mirror cover on someone’s insurance if they break it, wouldn’t change for a £400 plastic model
@@Monsu1erq That $400 only covers the model iteself. Painting it would add considerably more, perhaps even equel to the model's original cost.
Personally I don't really care if I win or lose in fact more often than not if I find out if my opponent has a titan or something equally as OP I try to challenge them in a match that is clearly ridiculously rigged against me.
For example if you have a thunderhawk gunship and a super heavily armored formation (and have a good bit of background lore) then I will happily play as a target dummy with a simple squad or two knowing that I'm clearly going to lose.
I find that people don't usually need a excuse to bring out the big guns and I like to happily be that excuse.
Do you see why I play lamenters ?
👑 you dropped this king
For those we cherish ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
@@yourfriendlyneighborhoodla2091 we die in glory !
You're a credit to the hobby. May your games be fun and your battles be glorious 😊👍
Ah a fellow Lamenter. For those we cherish brother.
Stories like this is why I don't play out in my local stores. I have my group I play with at our homes and I'm perfectly content with that.
Lucky for you my man. I hope I can find friends to play with beside toxic local store players.
If that happened to me, my gaming group buddies would have been on top of that guy and beat him to a pulp in seconds.
Yup. And held his models hostage until he paid restitution for selfish act.
Calm down tough guy you're not doing anything
A lot of thought, effort and time goes into getting a model the way you want it and by christ i cannot imagine a situation where I could remain calm is someone was to do that to my portion of the hobby. Frankie is lucky he can still walk.
should have just commented "Seems gravity did what your army couldnt" and then clocked him
what franky did is criminal damage! and he should have been sued for that then banned
It's not the price of the model it's the fact that somebody is upset at getting schooled in a game of Warhammer, it's bad sportsmanship it's low character and it's a really negative character trait to destroy somebody else's property because you're upset at them and that's that's what part of the story that floored me the most, I'm so sorry that your time building that tank was destroyed, but northern lately you have really been helping me get some frustration out so thank you for your stories my man the only bad part about listening to all you awesome dudes on TH-cam is the fact that I don't ever get to play Warhammer against some of my favorite people, have a great day my friend
Stories like this were the deciding factor when I was considering playing the tabletop game. I can put up with the high price, the work of painting and the complex rules. But I don’t want to deal with people like this on any level though and I don’t need the stress either.
Players were the reason I stopped 40k
Display models versus playable models is half the reason I’ve returned to battletech and put 40k on the shelf for now. Tired of breaking bits off of belasarius or my orinthropter. They break bits if you so much as breath on them wrong…..if someone threw one or intentionally dropped one……you’d see just how dago I am.
Plot twist: the mastodon was already broken and Frankie helped the guy get a free repair job
How that guy wasn't banned from every FLGS in a 250 mile radius I'll never understand.
If somebody intentionally went out to damage my models at the table, I think I would beat them to death with my dice bag, no joke
To people who ask what the background game was: A commenter said it was a Warhammer game, "Chaos Gate."
I am extremely new to the WH40K game and I have only ever played two games. This isn't much a nightmare, it's just a inconvenience that has swayed me away from playing any game since. My first game was a very nice very friendly learning curve as I was playing Nids for the 10th edition and the guy teaching me was playing necron. He was extremely kind and I wouldn't mind playing him again once I have an army Im happy with. So I managed to take out half his army in one turn. Then watched the entire Army rebuild itself except two units. Mean while my army lost a ¼th of its fighting force in turn one. That game ended on a good not around turn 3 and i am happy about it. Next game is what killed me. We have a kid who plays tournaments and professional games. I was playing SM for the first time and he played Imperial Fist. He immediately whent to work setting things up helping me get everything set up and telling me good setups and bad set ups. Then as I'm trying to learn how to play he is telling me exactly what my troops can do and starts rolling dice for his units ans mine resloving things faster than I can recall the name of my unit to find the info and learn it myself. By the end of turn two I have killed 6 units and he already took my entire army off the board. Not one troop remained standing. I decided to just collect and build models and haven't played since. I want to learn and find the right army before I try again. My heart is leaning on Nids and Chaos Knights.
If someone intensionally broke my model, like chucked it across the room, i would probably punch them.
my heart dropped the moment hearing the mastodon hitting the floor
No amount of TOs would be able to pry me off of him. I'd be apoplectic.
"Cut Anfield away from Liverpool, shove it into the arctic..." hahaha, that's heavy that la. I'd have to go the long way around to get to the 24hr Asda
16:33 "Why isn't he banned from the store for all time?" It's simple, really, his money fits in the till just like anyone else's.
Banning a purchaser of Games Workshop products is a serious financial decision, considering the price of their products. The auto-disqualification from tournaments for causing trouble is as far as the shop would want to go, as that gives this Big Spender (and if you play Games Workshop, you know how much you have to spend just to keep up with the continual rule changes and the new models to replace the 'obsoleted' ones due to the new rules) Yet Another Chance to change his ways and be a good sport, WITHOUT depriving the store of his continued purchases, as banning would do.
I had a time, this was a few years ago during Horus Heresy 1.0. I'm a long time 40k player, so I've seen a few things, but this short little thing still gets me. It was the start of a tournament, 3k a head. No real stakes, this was just a fun end of summer thing. Just a few nice competitive matches before we got into fall and started some narrative stuff.
My Death Guard vs Night Lords. Lets call the other player Brian.
Already from the start as we drew lots to decide our matches, Brian rolls his eyes and very loudly starts complaining. His Legion is all about Fear and the Death Guard are immune to Fear. So his main trick isn't going to work on my army.
But we start our set up and deployment. It was just a total war mission, just fight until the end. Most of Brian's Night Lords are mounted in drop pods or in deepstrike as terminators or assault marines. I turtle my army up, getting into cover, using tanks to max out my area of denial and make sure he can't get a sneaky drop pod in my lines. I measure it out and even have him confirm my measurements. He's a little annoyed, and Im purposefully doing it because his attitude was shitty.
Top of turn 1. He brings in a Vet Squad with combi-meltas right in front of my Sicaran. He rolls to scatter and scatters a full 12" back, now outside of Melta range. He screams "FUCK!" and starts using a bunch of homophobic slurs.
I tell him its not a big deal and if he calms down, I'll let him re-roll the scatter. I really didn't care, I'm a pretty laidback player. House rules of fun over anything else. But I tell him he gets one re-roll per drop pod if he wants, but he has to keep the second roll, no keeping the first.
He agrees and rolls to scatter. 12", this time directly off table. He screams "Fuck this shit!" and smashes his own drop pod on the ground. Calls me a cheating homophobic slur and said it was gay of me to measure out all my deployments so he can't get drop pods close. He said I could go fuck myself and starts packing up.
I don't say anything and he awkwardly packs up his whole army and leaves, mumbling slurs under his breath. He leaves behind the broken drop pod, that to this day has been repainted and used as terrain in the store. I dont know if he was banned, but I haven't seen him in the store since.
Hahahahaha, just as planed, Hahahaha
' ...rules of fun over anything else.' Yes, you're my kind of player. Respect.
I have a good friend who sadly, has raged about my null deployment tactics.. there are people who get personally offended at being outplayed. Warhammer is toy soldier hilarity, it's supposed to be fun!
That's the best story behind an LGS terrain piece I've ever heard
wasn't honestly going to subscribe do to having too many hobbytubers right now, but than you started talking about boosting smaller creators and stuff like that, that earns a lot of respect on my end good on you for being such an awesome person
Didn't happen to me, but to a friend some years back. MTG tourney at our local gaming shop. My pal has his chosen decks in hand, inside playing the tourney. Unbeknowsnt to him, someone else who had seen or knew that he had the balance of his massive MTG collection outside in his car, decided to get sticky fingers. Well, perp acquires card collection, immediately heads across town to the other hobby store in town, and tries to sell some of those cards. In the original, labelled, identifiable dekboxes they were stored in. Owner of second shop recognized the cases and knew exactly who they belonged to. So, as he is stalling the thief, he has his staff call both the police and my friend. My pal does end up getting ALL of his cards back (which were insured due to the value of his collcetion) and the perp catches some serious misdemeanor charges, class B as I recall, because that collection was worth tens of thousands back in the late 90s. Don't mess with the local gaming community...we stick together.
I keep forgetting there is an actual game connected to painting mini armies! 😂
Oh wow! Great choice for thumbnail, I have so much love for the Manchester store!
I would have gone to jail. Period. This is why my friends and I only play at my place and we have a blast.
I felt really silly, but I had to look up just what a 'fry up and a bed to Kip on' meant. It's a full English breakfast and a bed. Now I'm hungry.
"... but all in all had a good evening"
Character of a saint.
This is a big issue in the tabletop space, it's full of nerds(no offense intended) who are very non confrontational and people like Frankie take advantage of that fact to act like a bully. FYI, I can guess the reason hes not banned from the store, the margins on owning and running a tabletop store are mighty slim and I'm betting our pal Frankie spends a lot of money there, in short- money talks. He will be allowed to continue with his behavior until you guys threaten to "boycott" the store and never give them your business until hes gone. You have to create a situation where Frankie is costing the store more than he spends and once that condition is met he will be banned immediately.
My god... A Mastodon is $900 AUD. Almost a thousand bloody dollars. If someone broke something of mine on purpose like that I know for a fact he'd be leaving in an ambulance.
nearly one grand for one (although very large) model? I wouldnt be able to keep myself composed if someone destroyed something worth that much either.
Wait what game is this? I didn’t know they had a turn base game of 40k on PC
As a fellow Dark Angels player, a tip my hat to this man.
Just started a new Blood Bowl league in Nebraska, USA this week. We tend to spring and fall leagues. Each last for about 3 months.
11:09 this is one of those “build a army, collect a faction” discussions. I think primarchs are cool, when 40k Angron comes out, I’ll buy him and that will be the first primarch I’ll have ever painted, BUT I’ll probably never take him because I’d rather have Khârn, and a Exalted Champion and Daemon Prince and as many berserkers in as many rhinos as possible.
Blood Bowl leagues are a thing here. Group of guys playing at the GW on Sundays, sometimes they go to the store managers house on his days off for games, and periodically they play at nerd bars here. I'm getting into it myself, soon. Love ya vids, Norf.
This is probably one of my biggest fears in the hobby, I struggle keeping my models together to begin with (specifically referring to my dreadnought) but knowing this is a possibility is my worst fear
As someone who’s framed/remodeled houses for the last 6 years I can tell you..
it’s not that the guy fixing the tank _couldn’t_ make the seam on the bottom unnoticeable, it’s that “Nobody’s gonna see that part anyways…”
12:50 I thought you said you were going to hear Horus’ voice from the trailer. “Let the seas boil….”
We have a Bloodbowl League starting tomorrow in our local shop after a summer of friendly matches. It's a small, awesome game
First time seeing your content! This what more than entertaining I’m happy to sub ❤🙌
The amount of Micky mouse hardmen in these comments are hilarious! 🤣
"Why is he not banned?"
Pffft "why is he not fearing for his safety any time he sets foot in the store" you mean
Well this too xD
Something similar happened at a store tourney I frequented. A camera filming the tourney caught the whole thing and the police arrested the guy, who couldn't leave because somebody had slashed his tires and put one of those long-stemmed steel cigarette containers through his side window. They also had footage of the guy who put the returning bully through the side wall of the shop into the barber shop next door... where he then bit one of the barbers and got stabbed with scissors.
Good times, man.
What's he doing today, twenty years later? Guard at a youth detention center. Makes sense. I bet he's a real peach.
Lemme guess, Florida?
I stopped running my Blood Bowl league about two years ago. We used to run the league every summer, about a dozen and a half of us. We even had a trophy. Ran for about 7 years I think.
I'm betting Frankie's had excuses made for his behaviour his entire life. I'd have watched him pack up and then followed him outside.
Note: Mastodon is a $610 pre-tax model, or ~$650-670 USD after taxes, or nearly a 400 Pound tank after taxes.
If I saw that happen to myself or one of my friends, I would've called the police and argued that because the model is assembled and painted (it took me about 8 hours of effort to get the Astraeus assembled properly, resin you have to shave away, heat up, mold into place, etc) even if you charged the man minimum wage, the tank's value would likely be at or above $1,000, which is $500 more than you need for a Class a Misdemeanor for property damage, but if you can get the cop to agree with you that the man likely spent 30-100 hours on the tank, all you need to do is convince the officer that the value of the model is $1500.01 or more, and it's a felony. (numbers may vary from state to state)
Class A misdemeanor = up to 1 year jail time and up to $1000 fine.
Felony is OOF = 18 months - 24 months jail time (no less) and up to $10,000 fine.
We are getting this guy thrown into jail, one way or another. I'm a nice and patient guy. The store manager has dropped my painted Storm Raven, it was an accident, I get it. I fixed it up, I really don't mind.
But Franky? I would've dove for you, dragged you outside, tied you up, pinned you, and called the police, and if anybody tried to stop me, I would honestly say "It's ok, I only participate in tournaments for fun. You can give me a lifetime ban, I'm fine with it. But I'm going to make sure these types don't get away with anything ever again. I hope your tushie is ready for jail time"
Now that takes me back, like damn. I actually have a couple of those valkyries that are hanging up there, raffled them away when they changed location. Also got one of the executioner leman russes that were in the window display. Remember playing on that table too.
😮
I managed to get one of the Stormlord super heavies (plus a sentinel) in that raffle.
Yeah, the Manchester store (back in't day) was a great community. The new location is very much the polar opposite...
@rononel8046 that's because a lot of has changed. The new location is smaller but the rent is also 3x what it used to be so now it has no choice but to be more of a shop than a gaming space. The gaming during the week as well wasn't really doing all that much except being a headache for the staff with regular arguments about rules etc which is not ideal. They may do more gaming stuff now and then but it won't be anywhere near the scale it was before for quite some time.
@@hammer1349 yeah, I know all that, I talk to Paul whenever I'm in there. Didn't change the fact that I had a lot of happy memories/great friendships in the old store. Didn't change the fact that the Arndale wanting to shift GW and GW's new store policies have killed it for me. I go to Element in Stockport now, feels like the GW of old...
I would have launched myself as soon as the model had hit the floor. No way would I have been able to stay composed. The store certainly should ban that waste of skin the second it was seen what he did. They should have made him buy a new Mastodon because of his behaviour.
I would swing for him every time I saw him at the store after that if it had been my model.
The torment organizer and his buddy are true hobby heroes
I have paid that much for a miniature before it's a gargantuan Tiamat miniature this miniature would put the fear of god into any D&D player lol
I once had one of those type of people come into my FLGS and began observing the games that were going on. When he noticed my Tau; he immediately came over, began chirping endlessly on our game making my opponent visually uncomfortable and doing his best to be as obnoxious as possible towards me. Claiming that 'Tau aren't a real army, The imperium is better, you should throw those models in the trash. And pretty much overused and unoriginal Tau meme you could think of.
Having dealt with this type before (I realize it kind of comes with the territory with some people and Tau) I simply ignored him and kept my focus on my opponent and game. As we finished our game and I started to pack up my models; this guy had the nerve to reach for one of my Broadsides; saying 'Those models are such garbage, here let me toss them out for you.'
I managed to react before him and grabbed his arm by the wrist, in a firm enough grip not to hurt but enough to get the message through as I gave him a very angry stare in his eyes and a firm tone. "Do 'NOT' Touch someone's models."
Of course the guy begins screaming bloody murder, pulling his hand back; which I had let go mind you and turned around to try and paint me the villain to the store owners... Too bad the store manager was right behind him and had come to ask him to quiet down; saw the entire thing unfold and banned him from the store on the spot.
The store manager being a friend knows I used to do some martial arts before I had to stop for medical reasons; looked at me; very clearly trying to hide a smirk and said 'thanks for not hurting him.' before leaving me and my opponent be to clean up after our game.
Do NOT ever resort to violence. But no one at any point has a right to touch or damage you or your property. And if they do not experience consequences for their actions; they absolutely will keep doing it thinking they can get away with it. The guy in this video's story should have been banned on the spot from that and all future tournaments and had the people present warn and blacklist him from other nearby stores. At least until he formally apologized AND provided reimbursement for the destroyed/damaged model. Regardless of if it was repaired or not.
I love these videos for the very real (creative writing) power fantasies they draw out in the comments.
Okay and the real story this time?
Banned from the next tournie?! He should be banned from store/club for life!
At the store I play 40K (Emperor’s Children player here), if you did what Franky did you’d be blacklisted from the store, not even barred from tourneys, you’d be banned from even shopping there
Ha ha! "I don't condone violence."
But that broken mastasdon I going up his ass!
At work giggling at this with headphones in, people wondering the f I'm doing
Opponent dropped my pewter Beetlefex with plastic Scything Talons which I had put on the lower (middle) limbs upside down, so they looked like they would sweep horizontally (in kind of a *scything* motion). Thing is, I had sodjered in those talong by heating the pewter, and the bond held as it dropped onto the curved tip of the talon, springboarding back up. I caught it on the first bounce, and everyone thought it was awesome.
To be honest. I am a hot-headed Irishman! You lasted longer than I would have! I wouldn't have put up with that from the start and an ex-squaddie. I am ft6 6 well built. (Hence the nickname BigJohn)
i just got into warhammer 40k and have noticed the sliver of sodium that exists, while only really finding good people. i like hearing these as they’re very hilarious, but also help me know how exactly not to act while someone dunks on me. also helps me identify assholes at my local games shop lmfao
I’ve had similar happen and it makes me angers that people would even consider damaging theirs or other peoples models. My nids have broken wing tips and ones lost a base from accidents which I can patch and replace in a way that’s not bad. But if one of my big boys got damaged like that I would riot. I have a very limited budget so these things get the highest of safety. I cannot believe that the store lets this guy stick around
When the guy dropped the Mastadon. I would've fukkin' dropped him! 👊
About twenty years ago had a toxic player for my first game. They back handed some of my guys off the table for losing a small game (first timer so I did a quick game trying to introduce my self to the folks as no one knew me) kept the painting hobby but went back to DnD after that night. The kid that broke my guys did get banned later on from what I hear but.; made a few good friends that night, some of them still play DnD with me to this day.
You know what's actually amazing? I've had SO MANY experiences like this, that it drove me to refuse to play in any public setting ever again. I play maybe one or two games per year against people that I consider friends. I think that there are far more toxic players out there that go unrecognized because they rarely get caught/called on their BS.
Fighting the urge to not punch a person like that needs a will of steel. It's the hours of building and painting, blood sweat and tears etc. disrespecting that and disrespecting you.
It's extreme provocation. To ban him is the way because I wait for the day that one day Warhammer bad behaviour is going to get someone killed one day.
I think a better way would have been to confront him there and then to ensure 100% that you would get compensation from him and not let him just run away without recourse. If he refused then is the time maybe to restrain him and call the cops for damage to property.
Hail from Central Florida in the US. We have a Bloodbowl League that starts up each spring and last for a few months at a time.
Someone breaks my miniatures, which all the work I put into them, they'd definitely get thrown a beating 😂
Breaking models is a quick way to find out how Italian I am
Excuse me as i have heart palpitations hearing that homeboy smashed a fucking $600 model because his opponent was allowed to play properly
As a rule of thumb, DONT EVER LET ANYONE HANDLE YOUR MODELS, spetially when they have allready exposed themselves as a toxic lil girl...
Im from the US and we have some bad hobbiest here too... i live in WV and travel the states so i visit game shops and bad gamers on many levels. i love your spot here keep it going ill have to share a few stories myself from over the pond.
I don't even play 40k but dropping a model that someone not only paid a huge amount of money for but also the time it took to paint is pure heresy.
Can anyone tell me what warhammer game he is playing in this video? Thanks!
That's $583 on US Forgeworld.
Five HUNDRED and eighty-three US dollars.
He should have taken it in cash or teef, Frankie's choice.
its about $900 Aud here, fists would definitely be thrown over it.
Only time I’ve seen a model get damaged/destroyed was Yugioh players man. They’re urchins. Guy had a Stompaa when they first came out, it was sitting behind him as he was playing a 1000 point game and a kid came up picked it up, and just dropped it on the floor.
Ever sense then I try to stay on a side of the table where I can atleast keep one eye on my models. They’re more likely to be stolen especially if there is a yugioh/MTG tournament going on (in my personal experience).
The guy was upset, but not for long. The store owner was a really good guy and offered him store credit or a brand new one. So it had a happy ending
!st time watching and you just described the very reason why I stopped over a decade ago in Birmingham, with bad attitudes turning up spoiling the atmosphere it became nothing but an irritation. If any one had done that to mine I would be looking at court cases for violence. He has more patience than any guy deserved receiving and always the new players with spoilt attitudes.
If that had been my tank, I wouldn't have stopped at one punch... Had that been my store, that guy wouldn't have just been banned for life, I'd kept him there until he had bought a replacement model and I was able to convince OP to have the cops called and press charges against that guy. After all, that tank is quite expensive to begin with, and if had a decent paint job then it would be quite easy to prove the value had gone quite up a bit since purchase. That guy was more than lucky,. More like some demon was enjoying his acts and made sure he got away with it.
I'm being very dumb. Which 40k video game is that you're playing in the video?
Post match l removed my box of models from the table , which lifted my side of the table, my opponents army landed on the floor, then the terrain landed on the army then the table hit the floor at a 45 degree , bounce , and the edge of the table landed on some models who weren't being crushed by the terrain. This is my story of destroying an army.
Oh boy. I think I’d have a tough time NOT finding this fellow later on ...
another great coffee & horror hobby story. Thanks
hey North, i've got a question about Composit games do they also ship outside UK (europe)
thanks for your awnser! Love your vids!
No :( but I do ship if you win the monthly competition wherever you are. No competition this month as I literally have been swamped, October Halloween should be a doozy though!
Pardon my ignorance, but what game are you showing during the voice over? Looks like loads of fun!
Warhammer 40K: Chaos Gate - Daemonhunters
Your click bait picture is the old gw in Manchester ❤️
The price of the model is not the only factor, you have to count the primer, paint, supplies and the paint job. That puts the value of the Mastodon well over fivehundred pounds plus the paint job. Even at just five hours of work you could easily justify thirty pounds an hour, more if you are very good painter and been doing it for decades.
BTW, that was most likely a felony, I am not sure about UK law but in the states it is at that dollar amount. I know where I live they value art work based on skill/fair market OR your salary/time whichever is greater.
Mtg player here... you guys need a centralized TO system to perma-ban people like this. If someone dropped my deck (double sleeved) I'd lose my mind and the chance of my deck being damaged is really low. That is beyond the pale.
Wouldn't need to resort to any violence , Mr Frank would have paid for the damage plus the paint work which would have probably been to the tune of £1000 minimum .
I play Blood Bowl with the Geordie Blood Bowl League through Newcastle. Quite a big crowd
Lucky he wasn't in Wisconsin. That sort of thing could get you a pretty hefty fine (up to $10k) and some jail time (up to 9 months) if someone wanted to prosecute.
A similar event happened to my brother and I when we started the hobby in 2001. We were just learning and painted pretty horribly. We played 2 games in 1 day and agreed to never play again. 20 years on we build and paint the armies but still never played a game since.
I would tell the store management that if he doesn't get banned, I will spend no more money in there and never come back for any tournaments or anything else. I would also convince as many others to join me. Hit that store in the wallet and hope they do the right thing. Also I would have stomped that guy into the ground for doing that to one of my models. He would have a hard time walking after that.
Very simple, no one gets to handle anything they don't own.
there must be a pound of flesh for every dollar pound of model broken.
I run a BB League in Yeovil UK. 12 players every Tuesday. We are in our 3rd Season.
behavior like that should NEVER be excused. lifetime ban, contact the police for destruction of property.
@Northern Exile
There is an old blog called Five Geek Social Fallacies, that explains why nerd-hobbies often struggle with excluding toxic people.
Bro if someone broke my $300+ model on purpose like that, I think I’d be going to jail. I spend far too much of my time and money on these things for someone to break it in a hissy fit and not leave bloody.
Pardon my ignorance, what is the game that's on in the background?