That adapter is impressive! I tried adapting canon EF lenses to olympus, it was a lousy experience. Appreciate your thorough tests👍👍 Congrats on winning the print.
@@WILDALASKA Thanks, mate! I may be in a similar boat - waiting and waiting on the R1, and in the meantime, I'm missing out. The Z9 as an in-between body is now a viable alternative. Thanks for showing us that adapter, that was all I needed to see to go shopping 😊
Being a former Canon Shooter a quick tip to jump forward or going back to old shots on the camera. The two dials (front and read) can be programmed also to flick though images slowly and quickly mimicking the function of the Canon wheel on the back of the camera when reviewing images. I thought this might be helpful...
@@WILDALASKA yeah I pointed it out to those who might be new to the Nikon system. Indeed there are quite a few tricks on the Nikon that make your life easier like turning the image so that you can see a portrait image in full rather than a mini version of it. Mind you this will affect the way it will upload into lightroom (i.e. all the images will be 'laying down' so to speak)...
Great video and the z9 seems like a winner with either lens system. Can’t see myself switching “again” back to Nikon, but who knows? It’s nice to know it can be a companion without the hassle of “switching”. Just picked up the R7 and about to try and get used to mirrorless technique. I shoot mainly sports, so it’ll be interesting to see how it works right along side my 1DX’s in real world. Went through your camera setup/customization vid last night. So far, after playing around with static subject last night, it’s fun. Lol Thanks for your vids. I really enjoy them.
Thanks. Ya the R7 is a fun camera and it suits that crop niche quite well. And the Z9 sensor is what I was after for just pushing the images I take and just using Nikon in general was a want for a while just to see what else is out there etc.
Just so you know I also have for many years, used both Canon and Nikon. I've switched to Canon from Nikon and back a few times, but mostly I shoot Nikon. However I still have access to Canon gear, as I'm a photojournalist and my news agency has both for pool equipment. The Canon 500mm f/4L IS II is a great lens, but the Nikon 500mm f/4E VR FL is both lighter and sharper than the Canon. It also autofocuses extremely quickly on the Z9 or Z7 II. I personally use the D6 as my main camera's but I also now have added the Z7 II and FTZ II. The Nikon 500mm f/4E VR FL is quite rare, I'm the only guy I've ever seen with one, I own one and it's a phenomenal lens. It's even sharper than the new Nikon 400mm f2.8 S VR 1.4x TC lens and it's on par or even better than the $15,000 Nikon 600mm f/4 S 1.4x TC. I've had the pleasure of using both of them and the two new Nikon lenses with built in TC are phenomenal in how they work and how the TC is a game-changer. However I sold my 400FL to buy the 500FL for weight savings and I honestly didn't expect to love the 500FL as much as I do. Nikon has no plans whatsoever to replace the 500FL and why should they? Read the review on Photographylife.com and you'll see the 500FL is one of the sharpest lenses ever made. It is noticeably sharper than the Canon 500mm f/4L IS II. I've used both extensively. So you may want to keep an eye out for a USA used copy of the Nikon 500FL. The TH-camr and wildlife photographer named, Trond Westby has the 500FL and he too loves it. It's truly a phenomenal lens! They go for about $7,000 so not too much more than your Canon is worth. Maybe $2k? That would be worth it to me personally, because I know just how good the 500FL from Nikon is. Just have a look at the MTF or WTF chart, two straight lines across the top! It does not get any better!
Great vid, and it's super that you disprove this whole "adapted lenses must be slower" myth, at least on the Z9 using EF lenses. It seems like Nikon Z is now the universal body platform, autofocusing everything from Sony FE, Nikon SLR, Canon EF, and even pre-war Leica glass using the wild Techart autofocus Leica M adapter.
Great video, thanks for. I have switched systems a couple times over the years. Also have tried my hand in a couple other systems. I have settled on the Z system. I left Canon when i was shooting AMA Superbike racing and the Canon 1dmk3 came out. I bought 2 of them and my 600 4 and 400 2.8 lens. My sharp keeper rates on my 1dmk2 N bodies way out performed the new mk3 bodies. Sent both bodies ot Canon they said no issues. I knew there was an issue. About that timer Nikon announced the D3. After 6 months of fighting the mk3 bodies i tried the d3 and was blown away by the performance compared the mk3. I moved over to Nikon then. Through the years after that I have tried my hand in all the major brands again. I am now on z system and love my z9 and 800mm pf.
I have had the Fringer about a year now and there were a few small bugs when using my EF135 f2L in the earlier firmwares but otherwise my yearly conclusions mimic yours! I agree with you about the power that the Z9 has, definitely quickens up older lenses because I have an old original EF 300 f2.8L (1987) that has never worked so hard on any of my Canon bodies, I am actually worried that the Z9 might finally kill the motors!😂 I have now invested in five Zs lenses so far and they are superb (especially for me as a hybrid shooter ) where Nikon have recently updated all my lenses with linear focusing and adjustable lens throw! The main difference in using the Z native glass is not the speed but the next to silent nature when those motors are working full throttle plus on the video side being able to use the control ring for zooming or step-less aperture!👍🏾🙏🏾
Great video. I’ve been shooting with a Canon 600mm F4 ( the first one) and my Nikon Z6II for a while. I rented the Z9 and it has been a fantastic experience. I still have another week to go on the Z9 rental using it every day. What is leaning me towards the Z9 is that I also use Sony lenses on it. The Canon adapter works best, the Sony lenses work well on the Z9 as long as I don’t use a teleconverter for Sony. I’ve done, landscape, birds, macro, portraits. So I will make my final decision in about a week. I must say that I’ve captured some beautiful images with the Z6II but the focusing mechanism is no where near the Z9 and that has given me lots of great opportunities to capture more images in focus.
The good stuff about Nikon is the flange distance (it's the shortest of the three i.e. Sony Canon and Nikon). This allows you to adapt all type of glass out there to the Nikon. I shoot Nikon and I do know that currently Canon and Sony have better AF (definitely more stable ones for that matter). But the quality the Nikon's sensor is delivering (made by Sony but on Nikon's specs and design) is second to none!
I’ve had this adapter with my Z50 from back in the early Z50 days, and find it absolutely fantastic. I had an opportunity to buy a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 EF mount lens for a great price which is what got me wanting EF lens options. This has allowed me to get my 50 1.8, Tokina 11-16 f2.8 and Canon 17-55 f2.8 to make my complete set at a reasonable price for an amateur like me. Only issue I’ve had is it can be battery hungry (may also be the IS in the 17-55 sapping power). Otherwise it works really well. Fringer are great at keeping the firmware up to date and the Nikon autofocus firmware upgrades have worked with it the whole time. Fantastic video Wild Alaska!
@Cristianblu You sure do. The adapter is basically just a metal ring with both mount rings on each end. So you don’t notice it specifically on the Z50 unless you were comparing a full frame lens side by side with a full frame camera and the Z50
Ill make a how I have my settings video In January im sure. But basically I have it set to either 3D or All Area and animal tracking. And I just hot button to change either 3D or All area on need.
it's not always easy - using Canon EF glass on Sony mirrorless is doable, but the AF performance takes a bigger hit than it seems EF glass on the Z9 does...
Is that slower EF->Sony using the Sigma MC-11? I didn't know it was slower, but it's good to know @@davepastern , maybe I'll try another brand if I use Sony again.
I'm impressed! Now someone needs to make an adapter that can do Nikon F to Canon R and have functional autofocus. On the subject of 200-500 focus speed, I can tell you that on a non-flagship Nikon F mount body, it racks focus noticeably slower than my Nikon 500 f/4G VR or my 70-200 f/2.8G VR II does. This slightly slower speed never bothered me but it was enough of a difference to be observable.
Ya the bigger battery and power delivery on the R3 actually drive the 2 motors in the big whites while the r5 and lower only spin one. I could really see the difference in power delivery to the motors on all the lenses. And im assuming it does the same on the Nikon system and testing seemed to show that.
@@WILDALASKA I have read the same, but there seems to be limitations from what I can see. A mark 1 500mm f4 (which is the lens that I own) will be slower than the mark II on a RF body simply cos Canon has programmed the AF to be slower it seems...Gordon Laing seems to think otherwise (that the motors are slower in the mark 1 version, which is why the lens is slower) but I call BS. mark 1 and mark II lens are near identical on a 1Dx Mark III in terms of AF speed and overall performance. The sooner people start hacking the Canon camera internal software, the sooner we'll start to see the proof that Canon is deliberately slowing down older lenses to encourage upselling to RF glass that is overpriced and lacks any 3rd party compettiion. If governments are truly interested in protecting consumer rights, they'd be asking Canon for the source code etc and going over it with a fine tooth comb. I'm committed to Canon cos of glass (I don't have big enough balls to switch to a Z9 lol!). My honest take of Canon is that they are seriously struggling to keep up with sensor tech and falling behind Nikon and Sony. I mean, a R1 out 2-3 years after the A1/Z9 and it'll probably only just be keeping on par with those models and by that time, Nikon and Sony will probably be laughing and release mark II versions that blow the R1 out of the water. I guess time will tell if I'm right.
@@davepastern The motors are much slower in the mk 1 vs the mk 2. just a fact. the mk1 won't also full use the AF of the new RF also. and having used the Nikon and canon. canon is WAY ahead.
@@WILDALASKA I've heard a fraction slower, not much slower. I know the mark 1 won't use the full AF area on RF - I think the USM II motors in the mark II are more power efficient and there's 2 of them, vs a single 1 in the mark 1 from memory. Correct me if I'm wrong. I also believe that the mark II is optically superior, but again, only by a small amount, nothing earth shattering. If I could have afforded a used 500mm f4 II, I'd have done so. Are you referring to the Nikon 200-500 vs the Canon RF 100-500, with the Canon being way ahead? To be fair to the 200-500, it's a 10 year old lens design and a lot has changed since then. The Nikon 500mm f5.6 pf is by all accounts, a very nice lens, and quite reasonably priced, but still epensive for the average person I guess.
I read on a B&H review that the latest Z8 Firmware (2.0) causes issues with the Fringer EF-Z adapter. Have you seen any such issues? You can see the review in question under the EF-Zii adapter reviews. There are only 6 for this latest version of the adapter. I shot Canon for 20 years before switching to Nikon and have a ton of EF glass, so this adapter has been great. I've had very few issues with my adapter since buying it in June 2020. I did have problems with my Tamron G2 150-600, but those were resolved on the Fringer about a year ago. I was considering renting a Z8 and either an R5 or an R8 to compare to the focusing systems now that I've read Z8 2.0 has tampered some of the focus acquisition issues (focusing on background). In your experience how do the two AF systems compare? I feel Nikon's Achilles heel has so far been focus acquisition. Once it finds a subject it focuses fast but it sometimes hunts around after the fact as well.
I haven't had any issues with the z8 or z9 and my fringer adapter. Now im exclusively using the new version 2 fringer adapter as its now weather sealed. if you are worried just update to the new adapter. I haven't had much issue with the AF on my Z9 personally. Im just as comfortable with its AF as I am my canon bodies now. Just personal experience
Great tool there, IBIS and lens IS cannot work in conjuntion but one at the time only , in case of 70-200 is would you keep Ibis or is lens activated in video ?
I did have some bird in flight but I cut it out due to time. I may do that later as a comparison. but the overall was the same. No real difference on the adapted canon lens vs the f to z mount
I was one of the early Z9 users who got the camera on the first wave. Also used the Fringer from day one. It works great and AF is solid. It's not as fast as a dedicated Z lens, but it is definitely snappy. Know this from cover Big10 basketball and football with adapted Canon telephoto lenses. Here's the gotcha with the Fringer - if you stop down F8 or more for strobe work (mostly wide angles for me), the adapted lens will miss stopping down all the way properly here and there, leading to overexposure. Wide open, Fringer is flawless. Stopped down, an adapted EOS lens on a Fringer is going to going to miss frames here and there as the diaphragm blades don't close.
Haven't seen any of that in probably 50k or more shots taken, but I also outdoors all the time. With the big white canon vs the z 400 pf the speed of focus and motors is almost identical from my testing. ran that 400 pf pretty hard in testing.
@@WILDALASKA Oh yeah, I agree. Performance is flawless when your lens is set to wide open or close to wide open. When I stop down and then fire some pics rapidly, I've had major issues with the lens not stopping down consistently, leading to blown out exposures here and there. I've had it happen with both longer lenses and wide angle lenses. (why would I stop down with a longer lens? Don't do it often, but to get sun star effect.)
Thank you. This was really interesting. Canon shooter myself with zero plans to go Nikon but I still watched. I had no idea a Canon lens could be adapted to a Nikon camera. I think the $299 cost of the adapter is so negligible when one considers the thousands that would be lost selling off EF prime lenses to switch to another system environment. I'm glad I watched just in case a friend might be considering the change. I can share your video. Happy Holidays!
Thank you for the nice video that helped me decide on adaptor Canon to Nikon Z8. I did get the fringer adaptor which works very well on my Z8. I have a question though please. The histogram that I see through the View finder does not correspond with the final outcome of pictures........Captures come out much darker, not as shown in the histogram........Am I doing something wrong? Kindly advise me.......I had Auto ISO on.......As of the quality of Captures, They were NOT as on shooting my 5DIV canon Camera an SP Tamron 15-30 G2 .
@@WILDALASKA The retail shop took the lens off after some attempts and we informed Nikon about it. We are waiting for an answer. Camera and lens works ok now. I have adopted the Fridger adaptor for Canon lenses to Nikon Z8 and is working very nice. Thanks for reply
I bought a Fringer adapter awhile back to use my Canon glass on a z6ii. Focus worked fine but the image stabilization, whether on the lens or via the IBIS, didn’t seem to work. At fast shutter speeds needed to free action it delivered sharp images. But at slower hand held landscape shots i felt i couldn’t get lens or body to provide their IS. I’d welcome others experiences on this issue.
Very interesting video. Opened up possibilities to use Z9 with my EF lenses. How do you find Z9 only having one back button to assign for AF? Also does the adapter has weather sealing rubber gasket?
No weather sealing on the adapter itself. I talked with fringer and the next version will have weather sealing. It will inherit weather sealing some from the body and lens if they have it
@@WILDALASKA I used to use Sony A9 with sigma adapter on canon EF lenses. Worked well but I shoot in rainy environments and it always worry me water getting into the connection. I ended using canon R system now.
Ciao, Did the adaptor engaged correctly the stabilization too? Or work partially? I say this because on my Z9 with the sony adaptor, and the sony 200-600 I didn't feel the VR was working correctly. Sorry if I missed this and you mentioned already, but I went through the comments and I couldn't read about it, and English isn't my first language, so maybe I missed in the video. Cheers Simone
In your video you also mentioned that you are using the Z9 in the interim until the R1 comes out. Any particular reason not to use the R5 ( something I was considering) and stay with Canon all the way? The one thing that comes to mind is rolling shutter for certain situations. What else has guided your decision? Thanks for your time.
I have. whole video discussing the reasons :) You can watch it here th-cam.com/video/J6x7Ijirsxk/w-d-xo.html The main reasons for short version was trade-in values, pro line sensor, sound on shutter at high fps. Mainly a pro body vs middle line body. love the r5 but time to move up
Interesting video and good FYI even though I don't shoot Canon or Nikon. The fox photographs are exceptional and she seems very comfortable with your presence. Can you tell us more about your relationship with that subject?
There are a ton of trails all over the Anchorage area and the area is wild. Bears, moose, fox, raptors etc. We see bears and moose walk right through downtime at times. So there are several places along the trail with groups of fox. This area is a frequent of mine for 2 different groups. One female is more tolerant of people but they are still fleeting encounters. There's some lucky times where they will stop and watch us goofy 2 legged animals. And fox do get curious. I have a video coming up this month of some fox adventures and if you scroll back in my videos there's a video with this female fox from earlier in the year (last winter)
I have been shooting the Nikon 200-500mm f5.6 with the D850 "with the battery grip" for two years plus a few months, and the D500 "which I no longer have, killed it in a freak mishap" for over four years. The lens is fast and tack sharp "considering the price it sells for" with both bodies. I have also been shooting the Sigma 500mm f4 sports for a bit over three years now, which is one excellent piece of glass. The Sigma 500mm f4 sports prime AF is noticeably faster than the Nikon 200-500mm f5.6 with both the D850 and the D500. Now to the Z9, I have been shooting the Z9 with both lenses for close to a year now. They don't behave any different than they did with the D850 and the D500. The only difference is the fps advantage the Z9 has over the D850 and the D500. I only shoot in RAW. The D500 gave me 10 fps with a pretty much limitless buffer, the D850 with the battery grip gave me 9 fps with a buffer of 5-7 second bursts depending on the situation before it slowed to a crawl, the D850's small buffer "remember that it is pushing 45 megapixel Raw files uncompressed" actually improved my BIF technique. I still own the D850 and not planning to sell it anytime soon. The images the D850 produces are still fantastic today. The main reason I bought the Z9 was for video and the increase in buffer size and FPS. You can tell the difference between 9 fps and 15-20 fps. The Z9 is pretty much a D850 on steroids. In regards to the Nikon 200-500mm f5.6, it's sharp wide open, but it's sweet spot "for my copy at least" is f/7.1-f/8.
Hi Scott, i come across your channel, since i am having the same idea of moving canon to nikon z9! but my L lens wont worth much selling (because they are dusted / scratched...etc) So i am thinking to get one of those mount like you! I will keep my R5 and get just the Z9 body~ May i know, after 2-3 month u have switched from R5 to Z9 now, How is the experience in terms of prof. work~ shooting, retouching...etc... heard that the colour and sharpness from raw already a hugh different !! Thanks for sharing your thought! Gether
Thanks for watching the channel :) I am working up a 3 Month review as a canon user review of the Z9 now. Hopefully in a few days ill have it out. The image the comes out of the camera is very good.
Hi Scott, it's been 8month now, may I know how's your experience using Z8 with ef lens? Any disadvantage using the ef lens? I am a full time photographer and I am considering the same like u in this video...switch the body system! Thanks and hope u can give me some advise..
Hi Scott, you mentioned that the video was shot on the Canon R7 with the RF 35mm 1.4. I was trying to find the RF35 1.4 on Canon Canada, and I cannot find it. Was this lens just released by Canon?
Hi Scott, your fox is such an adorable pet !! We have to agree the Z9 seems to focus perfectly, even with enemy-lenses ;-) Maybe a next time you can check whether it's the same in case of foxes (and birds) in flight ?? Also interesting would be an AF comparison between Z9 and R5 (if still possible) given they have about the same mpix. Still wondering whether the sealing of the Fringer is strong enough to survive Katmai and Kodiak when the salmons are back, and whether you'll miss the 100-500 on the Z9 ;-)
So, theres a lot of foxes around the trail systems of anchorage. There is one female that's more agreeable luckily. I had an eagle burst with the 500mm and z9 but I cut it due to time and the video was still very long. And this time of year its hard to get BIF here in AK besides ravens and be able to switch lenses and get a comparable shot. Maybe come spring the. the seagulls etc are back. And I can tell you right now the r5 AF will kill the Z9. The systems are totally different in how they operate also. the fringer doesn't have weather sealing. I did. talk to a fringer rep and the next version will have weather sealing, but you get some weather sealing from the body and les if they are weather sealed. But il have a rain coat on it if its in heavy rain or sand conditions for nay camera I use lol
@@WILDALASKA I just picked up the R3 from B&H. It came down to a better EVF and a lighter body(compared to the Z9). The autofocus on the Z9 was pretty good and sticky(from playing with it in the store)
I shoot Sony but i'm interested in the Z9 - I know there is an adapter for Sony lenses on Z mount [Megadap EZT-21] my question is does yours have weather sealing?
@@WILDALASKA Well I did see a difference between my Z 100-400 and my Z 400 f4.5 which my 400 f4.5 was quicker at focusing. But both are fantastic lenses, Just that the 400 prime is excellent;)
Not sure if you'll see this comment, but have you tested it with the EF 500 f/4 II and 1.4x TC III extender. If the Fringer works just as well with the lens as a 700 f/5.6 I'm 100% sold.
I see a killing combination here guys... the amazing Canon glass with the top notch sensor quality that Nikon has to offer (the AF is another story though)
@@WILDALASKA for reasons I won't go into right now, I think this affair of the AF is going to be like the stock market (ups&downs). It's always handy to have the previous version at hand's reach just in case, just in case...
I have to laugh at Canon - Nikon 200-500 f5.6 price in Australia ~ AUD $1600. Canon RF 100-500 - AUD $5k...Sony's 200-600 is ~2k AUD too. So, are Nikon and Sony underpriced or is Canon overpriced? If I didn't hate the Nikon UI, I'd be tempted to switch to a Z9... Not only is Canon blocking 3rd party lens manufacturers from the RF mount deliberately, they are price gouging their customers on RF lenses...ALL of them. Even the humbe nifty 50 - $100 more for the RF version than the EF version in Australia...for what is probably identical optics.
The Nikon 200-500 is f mount. The closest equivalent in Z glass will be the 200-600 that's not released and it will probably be 2.5K if it holds in line with the Sony as its based on that lens. Also your paying more for d drastic weight reduction on the rf 100-500 as that Sony 200-600 is a brick. Theres a lot into pricing and features. Prices are pretty much the same. The PF range is the same as canons old DO range with same pricing. But pick whatever floats your boat
@@WILDALASKA I've hand held a D3 and 200-500 years ago and wasn't too bad. I've never hand held the Sony 200-600 but yeah, it's beast of a lens, but not super heavy at 2kg, although yeah, 700g heavier than the Canon RF 100-500, agreed.
That adapter is impressive! I tried adapting canon EF lenses to olympus, it was a lousy experience. Appreciate your thorough tests👍👍
Congrats on winning the print.
Thanks for watching!
I use that adapter for my EF to X Mount Fuji x-t5 and it works fantastic! The Z9 or Z8 will be my next purchase. Appreciate the videos 🤘
Very cool. I love my fringer adapter :)
Thank you, I've been waiting for this. Now I have some shopping to do... 😁
lol. it was a fun and eye opening test. Now the Z9 may give better results than the z6 or z7 as the AF and power delivery are different
@@WILDALASKA Thanks, mate! I may be in a similar boat - waiting and waiting on the R1, and in the meantime, I'm missing out. The Z9 as an in-between body is now a viable alternative. Thanks for showing us that adapter, that was all I needed to see to go shopping 😊
The way you talk makes it very clear to me..... very honest review, God Bless....
thx
Being a former Canon Shooter a quick tip to jump forward or going back to old shots on the camera. The two dials (front and read) can be programmed also to flick though images slowly and quickly mimicking the function of the Canon wheel on the back of the camera when reviewing images. I thought this might be helpful...
yes I found that and it is very helpful
@@WILDALASKA yeah I pointed it out to those who might be new to the Nikon system. Indeed there are quite a few tricks on the Nikon that make your life easier like turning the image so that you can see a portrait image in full rather than a mini version of it. Mind you this will affect the way it will upload into lightroom (i.e. all the images will be 'laying down' so to speak)...
Great video and the z9 seems like a winner with either lens system. Can’t see myself switching “again” back to Nikon, but who knows? It’s nice to know it can be a companion without the hassle of “switching”.
Just picked up the R7 and about to try and get used to mirrorless technique. I shoot mainly sports, so it’ll be interesting to see how it works right along side my 1DX’s in real world. Went through your camera setup/customization vid last night.
So far, after playing around with static subject last night, it’s fun. Lol
Thanks for your vids. I really enjoy them.
Thanks.
Ya the R7 is a fun camera and it suits that crop niche quite well.
And the Z9 sensor is what I was after for just pushing the images I take and just using Nikon in general was a want for a while just to see what else is out there etc.
Just so you know I also have for many years, used both Canon and Nikon. I've switched to Canon from Nikon and back a few times, but mostly I shoot Nikon. However I still have access to Canon gear, as I'm a photojournalist and my news agency has both for pool equipment. The Canon 500mm f/4L IS II is a great lens, but the Nikon 500mm f/4E VR FL is both lighter and sharper than the Canon. It also autofocuses extremely quickly on the Z9 or Z7 II. I personally use the D6 as my main camera's but I also now have added the Z7 II and FTZ II. The Nikon 500mm f/4E VR FL is quite rare, I'm the only guy I've ever seen with one, I own one and it's a phenomenal lens. It's even sharper than the new Nikon 400mm f2.8 S VR 1.4x TC lens and it's on par or even better than the $15,000 Nikon 600mm f/4 S 1.4x TC. I've had the pleasure of using both of them and the two new Nikon lenses with built in TC are phenomenal in how they work and how the TC is a game-changer. However I sold my 400FL to buy the 500FL for weight savings and I honestly didn't expect to love the 500FL as much as I do. Nikon has no plans whatsoever to replace the 500FL and why should they? Read the review on Photographylife.com and you'll see the 500FL is one of the sharpest lenses ever made. It is noticeably sharper than the Canon 500mm f/4L IS II. I've used both extensively. So you may want to keep an eye out for a USA used copy of the Nikon 500FL. The TH-camr and wildlife photographer named, Trond Westby has the 500FL and he too loves it. It's truly a phenomenal lens! They go for about $7,000 so not too much more than your Canon is worth. Maybe $2k? That would be worth it to me personally, because I know just how good the 500FL from Nikon is. Just have a look at the MTF or WTF chart, two straight lines across the top! It does not get any better!
Great test! Great job!
Thank you!
Great vid, and it's super that you disprove this whole "adapted lenses must be slower" myth, at least on the Z9 using EF lenses. It seems like Nikon Z is now the universal body platform, autofocusing everything from Sony FE, Nikon SLR, Canon EF, and even pre-war Leica glass using the wild Techart autofocus Leica M adapter.
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Great video, thanks for. I have switched systems a couple times over the years. Also have tried my hand in a couple other systems. I have settled on the Z system. I left Canon when i was shooting AMA Superbike racing and the Canon 1dmk3 came out. I bought 2 of them and my 600 4 and 400 2.8 lens. My sharp keeper rates on my 1dmk2 N bodies way out performed the new mk3 bodies. Sent both bodies ot Canon they said no issues. I knew there was an issue. About that timer Nikon announced the D3. After 6 months of fighting the mk3 bodies i tried the d3 and was blown away by the performance compared the mk3. I moved over to Nikon then. Through the years after that I have tried my hand in all the major brands again. I am now on z system and love my z9 and 800mm pf.
All the. mirrorless systems are fantastic now. Its. great time to be a photographer !
I have had the Fringer about a year now and there were a few small bugs when using my EF135 f2L in the earlier firmwares but otherwise my yearly conclusions mimic yours! I agree with you about the power that the Z9 has, definitely quickens up older lenses because I have an old original EF 300 f2.8L (1987) that has never worked so hard on any of my Canon bodies, I am actually worried that the Z9 might finally kill the motors!😂 I have now invested in five Zs lenses so far and they are superb (especially for me as a hybrid shooter ) where Nikon have recently updated all my lenses with linear focusing and adjustable lens throw! The main difference in using the Z native glass is not the speed but the next to silent nature when those motors are working full throttle plus on the video side being able to use the control ring for zooming or step-less aperture!👍🏾🙏🏾
Yes in testing the F and z mounts they were a bit smoother.
The fringer setup works great.
Great video. I’ve been shooting with a Canon 600mm F4 ( the first one) and my Nikon Z6II for a while. I rented the Z9 and it has been a fantastic experience. I still have another week to go on the Z9 rental using it every day. What is leaning me towards the Z9 is that I also use Sony lenses on it.
The Canon adapter works best, the Sony lenses work well on the Z9 as long as I don’t use a teleconverter for Sony. I’ve done, landscape, birds, macro, portraits.
So I will make my final decision in about a week. I must say that I’ve captured some beautiful images with the Z6II but the focusing mechanism is no where near the Z9 and that has given me lots of great opportunities to capture more images in focus.
Very cool. Z9 so far has been fantastic
The good stuff about Nikon is the flange distance (it's the shortest of the three i.e. Sony Canon and Nikon). This allows you to adapt all type of glass out there to the Nikon. I shoot Nikon and I do know that currently Canon and Sony have better AF (definitely more stable ones for that matter). But the quality the Nikon's sensor is delivering (made by Sony but on Nikon's specs and design) is second to none!
I’ve had this adapter with my Z50 from back in the early Z50 days, and find it absolutely fantastic. I had an opportunity to buy a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 EF mount lens for a great price which is what got me wanting EF lens options. This has allowed me to get my 50 1.8, Tokina 11-16 f2.8 and Canon 17-55 f2.8 to make my complete set at a reasonable price for an amateur like me. Only issue I’ve had is it can be battery hungry (may also be the IS in the 17-55 sapping power). Otherwise it works really well. Fringer are great at keeping the firmware up to date and the Nikon autofocus firmware upgrades have worked with it the whole time. Fantastic video Wild Alaska!
Good info.
hey, I have a question. when you adapt your lenses to the z50, which is a crop sensor, do you get that 1.5x crop magnification?
@Cristianblu You sure do. The adapter is basically just a metal ring with both mount rings on each end. So you don’t notice it specifically on the Z50 unless you were comparing a full frame lens side by side with a full frame camera and the Z50
@@walwhite7399thank you for the info 👍👍
Amazing comparison great documentation on the adapter for canon. Can I ask are you in release / focus and release or focus priority for the settings ?
Ill make a how I have my settings video In January im sure. But basically I have it set to either 3D or All Area and animal tracking. And I just hot button to change either 3D or All area on need.
The images behind the sticks are amazing
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it's great to see that this adaptor works as if the glass was native, gives me the hope I need to not be stuck with Canon when I move on.
It's very good. the version 2 is out with weather sealing now also
Thanks for the explanation and clarifying so many questions. Nikon lenses are too expensive and are difficult to replace
Yes all the manufacturers pro lenses are very expensive, so its nice to find a great workaround for this
It's amazing how easy it is to switch between brands now days and keep your old lenses.
In this case it has been ;)
it's not always easy - using Canon EF glass on Sony mirrorless is doable, but the AF performance takes a bigger hit than it seems EF glass on the Z9 does...
You can only adapt Canon and Sony lenses to Nikon cameras, but not the other way around. Gives Nikon users access to all lenses.
@@mlai2546 I am so glad to hear that, so that I will adapt my EF300 f/2.8 L II IS USM on my new coming Z8 camera........
Is that slower EF->Sony using the Sigma MC-11? I didn't know it was slower, but it's good to know @@davepastern , maybe I'll try another brand if I use Sony again.
the place looks amazing
its nice in the winter. animals just pop
I'm impressed! Now someone needs to make an adapter that can do Nikon F to Canon R and have functional autofocus. On the subject of 200-500 focus speed, I can tell you that on a non-flagship Nikon F mount body, it racks focus noticeably slower than my Nikon 500 f/4G VR or my 70-200 f/2.8G VR II does. This slightly slower speed never bothered me but it was enough of a difference to be observable.
Ya the bigger battery and power delivery on the R3 actually drive the 2 motors in the big whites while the r5 and lower only spin one. I could really see the difference in power delivery to the motors on all the lenses. And im assuming it does the same on the Nikon system and testing seemed to show that.
@@WILDALASKA I have read the same, but there seems to be limitations from what I can see. A mark 1 500mm f4 (which is the lens that I own) will be slower than the mark II on a RF body simply cos Canon has programmed the AF to be slower it seems...Gordon Laing seems to think otherwise (that the motors are slower in the mark 1 version, which is why the lens is slower) but I call BS. mark 1 and mark II lens are near identical on a 1Dx Mark III in terms of AF speed and overall performance. The sooner people start hacking the Canon camera internal software, the sooner we'll start to see the proof that Canon is deliberately slowing down older lenses to encourage upselling to RF glass that is overpriced and lacks any 3rd party compettiion. If governments are truly interested in protecting consumer rights, they'd be asking Canon for the source code etc and going over it with a fine tooth comb.
I'm committed to Canon cos of glass (I don't have big enough balls to switch to a Z9 lol!).
My honest take of Canon is that they are seriously struggling to keep up with sensor tech and falling behind Nikon and Sony. I mean, a R1 out 2-3 years after the A1/Z9 and it'll probably only just be keeping on par with those models and by that time, Nikon and Sony will probably be laughing and release mark II versions that blow the R1 out of the water. I guess time will tell if I'm right.
@@davepastern The motors are much slower in the mk 1 vs the mk 2. just a fact. the mk1 won't also full use the AF of the new RF also.
and having used the Nikon and canon. canon is WAY ahead.
@@WILDALASKA I've heard a fraction slower, not much slower. I know the mark 1 won't use the full AF area on RF - I think the USM II motors in the mark II are more power efficient and there's 2 of them, vs a single 1 in the mark 1 from memory. Correct me if I'm wrong. I also believe that the mark II is optically superior, but again, only by a small amount, nothing earth shattering. If I could have afforded a used 500mm f4 II, I'd have done so.
Are you referring to the Nikon 200-500 vs the Canon RF 100-500, with the Canon being way ahead? To be fair to the 200-500, it's a 10 year old lens design and a lot has changed since then. The Nikon 500mm f5.6 pf is by all accounts, a very nice lens, and quite reasonably priced, but still epensive for the average person I guess.
I read on a B&H review that the latest Z8 Firmware (2.0) causes issues with the Fringer EF-Z adapter. Have you seen any such issues?
You can see the review in question under the EF-Zii adapter reviews. There are only 6 for this latest version of the adapter.
I shot Canon for 20 years before switching to Nikon and have a ton of EF glass, so this adapter has been great.
I've had very few issues with my adapter since buying it in June 2020. I did have problems with my Tamron G2 150-600, but those were resolved on the Fringer about a year ago.
I was considering renting a Z8 and either an R5 or an R8 to compare to the focusing systems now that I've read Z8 2.0 has tampered some of the focus acquisition issues (focusing on background).
In your experience how do the two AF systems compare?
I feel Nikon's Achilles heel has so far been focus acquisition. Once it finds a subject it focuses fast but it sometimes hunts around after the fact as well.
I haven't had any issues with the z8 or z9 and my fringer adapter. Now im exclusively using the new version 2 fringer adapter as its now weather sealed. if you are worried just update to the new adapter.
I haven't had much issue with the AF on my Z9 personally. Im just as comfortable with its AF as I am my canon bodies now. Just personal experience
Great tool there, IBIS and lens IS cannot work in conjuntion but one at the time only , in case of 70-200 is would you keep Ibis or is lens activated in video ?
IBIS and IS on the lens are working at same time.
Very thorough as usual! An even better test would be birds in flight. You may see some differences there, but who knows?
I did have some bird in flight but I cut it out due to time. I may do that later as a comparison. but the overall was the same. No real difference on the adapted canon lens vs the f to z mount
@@WILDALASKA Glad to hear it worked well. Any chance an RF lens connected to the EF-RF adapter will work on this adapter? Probably asking too much!
@@hstein27 only EF. remember the adapter is body to lens direction
I was one of the early Z9 users who got the camera on the first wave. Also used the Fringer from day one. It works great and AF is solid. It's not as fast as a dedicated Z lens, but it is definitely snappy. Know this from cover Big10 basketball and football with adapted Canon telephoto lenses. Here's the gotcha with the Fringer - if you stop down F8 or more for strobe work (mostly wide angles for me), the adapted lens will miss stopping down all the way properly here and there, leading to overexposure. Wide open, Fringer is flawless. Stopped down, an adapted EOS lens on a Fringer is going to going to miss frames here and there as the diaphragm blades don't close.
Haven't seen any of that in probably 50k or more shots taken, but I also outdoors all the time. With the big white canon vs the z 400 pf the speed of focus and motors is almost identical from my testing. ran that 400 pf pretty hard in testing.
@@WILDALASKA Oh yeah, I agree. Performance is flawless when your lens is set to wide open or close to wide open. When I stop down and then fire some pics rapidly, I've had major issues with the lens not stopping down consistently, leading to blown out exposures here and there. I've had it happen with both longer lenses and wide angle lenses. (why would I stop down with a longer lens? Don't do it often, but to get sun star effect.)
@@fredzwicky8363 that's good to know... have you told the Fringer team? They might be able to fix it in their firmware.
Thank you. This was really interesting. Canon shooter myself with zero plans to go Nikon but I still watched. I had no idea a Canon lens could be adapted to a Nikon camera. I think the $299 cost of the adapter is so negligible when one considers the thousands that would be lost selling off EF prime lenses to switch to another system environment. I'm glad I watched just in case a friend might be considering the change. I can share your video. Happy Holidays!
it was a great find and helped me explore the Nikon system
Thank you for the nice video that helped me decide on adaptor Canon to Nikon Z8. I did get the fringer adaptor which works very well on my Z8. I have a question though please. The histogram that I see through the View finder does not correspond with the final outcome of pictures........Captures come out much darker, not as shown in the histogram........Am I doing something wrong? Kindly advise me.......I had Auto ISO on.......As of the quality of Captures, They were NOT as on shooting my 5DIV canon Camera an SP Tamron 15-30 G2 .
I haven't had that issue. I also shoot full manual. pretty much what see in the EVF is what I get.
@@WILDALASKA The retail shop took the lens off after some attempts and we informed Nikon about it. We are waiting for an answer. Camera and lens works ok now. I have adopted the Fridger adaptor for Canon lenses to Nikon Z8 and is working very nice. Thanks for reply
I bought a Fringer adapter awhile back to use my Canon glass on a z6ii. Focus worked fine but the image stabilization, whether on the lens or via the IBIS, didn’t seem to work. At fast shutter speeds needed to free action it delivered sharp images. But at slower hand held landscape shots i felt i couldn’t get lens or body to provide their IS. I’d welcome others experiences on this issue.
I havent noticed that yet but I don't shoot much slower than 1/100th. Ill have to test it at slower speeds
Very interesting video. Opened up possibilities to use Z9 with my EF lenses. How do you find Z9 only having one back button to assign for AF? Also does the adapter has weather sealing rubber gasket?
No weather sealing on the adapter itself. I talked with fringer and the next version will have weather sealing. It will inherit weather sealing some from the body and lens if they have it
@@WILDALASKA I used to use Sony A9 with sigma adapter on canon EF lenses. Worked well but I shoot in rainy environments and it always worry me water getting into the connection. I ended using canon R system now.
I use this adapter on my Z7ll with an EF mount Sigma 180mm f2.8 macro lens.
Very nice. How is it working for you?
@@WILDALASKA Very happy with the lens as well as the adapter. I find it works as well as the Z mount lenses I use as far as speed of focus.
Ciao,
Did the adaptor engaged correctly the stabilization too? Or work partially?
I say this because on my Z9 with the sony adaptor, and the sony 200-600 I didn't feel the VR was working correctly.
Sorry if I missed this and you mentioned already, but I went through the comments and I couldn't read about it, and English isn't my first language, so maybe I missed in the video.
Cheers
Simone
IS works correctly with the fringer adapter
@@WILDALASKA that's great thanks
Good job
Thanks
I plan to shoot Canon EF on Nikon Z9 and a Hasselblad Medium Format digital camera along with my Canon 7D Mark II.
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In your video you also mentioned that you are using the Z9 in the interim until the R1 comes out. Any particular reason not to use the R5 ( something I was considering) and stay with Canon all the way? The one thing that comes to mind is rolling shutter for certain situations. What else has guided your decision? Thanks for your time.
I have. whole video discussing the reasons :) You can watch it here th-cam.com/video/J6x7Ijirsxk/w-d-xo.html
The main reasons for short version was trade-in values, pro line sensor, sound on shutter at high fps. Mainly a pro body vs middle line body. love the r5 but time to move up
@@WILDALASKA thanks that’s what I was looking for. Definitely will watch that video.
Interesting video and good FYI even though I don't shoot Canon or Nikon. The fox photographs are exceptional and she seems very comfortable with your presence. Can you tell us more about your relationship with that subject?
There are a ton of trails all over the Anchorage area and the area is wild. Bears, moose, fox, raptors etc. We see bears and moose walk right through downtime at times.
So there are several places along the trail with groups of fox. This area is a frequent of mine for 2 different groups. One female is more tolerant of people but they are still fleeting encounters.
There's some lucky times where they will stop and watch us goofy 2 legged animals.
And fox do get curious.
I have a video coming up this month of some fox adventures and if you scroll back in my videos there's a video with this female fox from earlier in the year (last winter)
Will the first version canon 500 f/4 work this was as well ??
Yes. Its going to be a touch slower and heavier, but will work.
I have been shooting the Nikon 200-500mm f5.6 with the D850 "with the battery grip" for two years plus a few months, and the D500 "which I no longer have, killed it in a freak mishap" for over four years. The lens is fast and tack sharp "considering the price it sells for" with both bodies. I have also been shooting the Sigma 500mm f4 sports for a bit over three years now, which is one excellent piece of glass. The Sigma 500mm f4 sports prime AF is noticeably faster than the Nikon 200-500mm f5.6 with both the D850 and the D500.
Now to the Z9, I have been shooting the Z9 with both lenses for close to a year now. They don't behave any different than they did with the D850 and the D500. The only difference is the fps advantage the Z9 has over the D850 and the D500. I only shoot in RAW. The D500 gave me 10 fps with a pretty much limitless buffer, the D850 with the battery grip gave me 9 fps with a buffer of 5-7 second bursts depending on the situation before it slowed to a crawl, the D850's small buffer "remember that it is pushing 45 megapixel Raw files uncompressed" actually improved my BIF technique.
I still own the D850 and not planning to sell it anytime soon. The images the D850 produces are still fantastic today.
The main reason I bought the Z9 was for video and the increase in buffer size and FPS. You can tell the difference between 9 fps and 15-20 fps.
The Z9 is pretty much a D850 on steroids.
In regards to the Nikon 200-500mm f5.6, it's sharp wide open, but it's sweet spot "for my copy at least" is f/7.1-f/8.
thanks for the info
Hi Scott, i come across your channel, since i am having the same idea of moving canon to nikon z9! but my L lens wont worth much selling (because they are dusted / scratched...etc) So i am thinking to get one of those mount like you! I will keep my R5 and get just the Z9 body~
May i know, after 2-3 month u have switched from R5 to Z9 now, How is the experience in terms of prof. work~ shooting, retouching...etc... heard that the colour and sharpness from raw already a hugh different !! Thanks for sharing your thought!
Gether
Thanks for watching the channel :)
I am working up a 3 Month review as a canon user review of the Z9 now. Hopefully in a few days ill have it out.
The image the comes out of the camera is very good.
@@WILDALASKA thanks for replying! I just spotted theres the video update? Now shall take a look?!🤟🏼
Hi Scott, it's been 8month now, may I know how's your experience using Z8 with ef lens? Any disadvantage using the ef lens? I am a full time photographer and I am considering the same like u in this video...switch the body system! Thanks and hope u can give me some advise..
Hi Scott, you mentioned that the video was shot on the Canon R7 with the RF 35mm 1.4. I was trying to find the RF35 1.4 on Canon Canada, and I cannot find it. Was this lens just released by Canon?
RF 35 1.8
@@WILDALASKA Thank you for confirming. Have a wonderful evening!
I suspect the difference in AF will be more noticeable in more challenging conditions such as BIF
Nope the EF lenses work exactly the same as the F and Z lenses. BIF is no issue
Has anyone tested this adapter with a Sigma 300-800mm (canon EF mount)?
fairly unique lens
Hi Scott, your fox is such an adorable pet !!
We have to agree the Z9 seems to focus perfectly, even with enemy-lenses ;-)
Maybe a next time you can check whether it's the same in case of foxes (and birds) in flight ??
Also interesting would be an AF comparison between Z9 and R5 (if still possible) given they have about the same mpix.
Still wondering whether the sealing of the Fringer is strong enough to survive Katmai and Kodiak when the salmons are back, and whether you'll miss the 100-500 on the Z9 ;-)
So, theres a lot of foxes around the trail systems of anchorage. There is one female that's more agreeable luckily.
I had an eagle burst with the 500mm and z9 but I cut it due to time and the video was still very long. And this time of year its hard to get BIF here in AK besides ravens and be able to switch lenses and get a comparable shot. Maybe come spring the. the seagulls etc are back.
And I can tell you right now the r5 AF will kill the Z9. The systems are totally different in how they operate also.
the fringer doesn't have weather sealing. I did. talk to a fringer rep and the next version will have weather sealing, but you get some weather sealing from the body and les if they are weather sealed. But il have a rain coat on it if its in heavy rain or sand conditions for nay camera I use lol
@@WILDALASKA good to know, thanks for the extensive feedback !!
@@WILDALASKA is the AF that much better on the R5 over the Z9? (I’m looking)
@@memcrew1 R5 autofocus is faster. Z9 sensor is better.
@@WILDALASKA I just picked up the R3 from B&H. It came down to a better EVF and a lighter body(compared to the Z9). The autofocus on the Z9 was pretty good and sticky(from playing with it in the store)
Hi! Does it works with nikon z7ii? Thanks!
Not sure as I don't own that camera. :(
I shoot Sony but i'm interested in the Z9 - I know there is an adapter for Sony lenses on Z mount [Megadap EZT-21] my question is does yours have weather sealing?
No. I slaked with fringer and their next version will. You will get some weather sealing from the body and lens
Great video, Love my Z9 and Nikkor lenses;) Also the native Z lenses will work better;)
they should, but its not really noticeable in real world tests. which is nice
@@WILDALASKA Well I did see a difference between my Z 100-400 and my Z 400 f4.5 which my 400 f4.5 was quicker at focusing. But both are fantastic lenses, Just that the 400 prime is excellent;)
Not sure if you'll see this comment, but have you tested it with the EF 500 f/4 II and 1.4x TC III extender. If the Fringer works just as well with the lens as a 700 f/5.6 I'm 100% sold.
Yes I use the 1.4x MKIII a lot with the 500
How can I connect canon Rf lens to Nikon Z mirrorless cams ??
with the adapter in the video......🤷♂️
@WILDALASKA it works with canon RF lenses ??
As I planning to use my Canon 100 mm macro RF lens on the Z9
Sorry I misread your comment. RF lenses are not adaptable to anything currently@@ahmedelshall8946
Nice review for photo, but what about video? Thanks
works flawlessly
I see a killing combination here guys... the amazing Canon glass with the top notch sensor quality that Nikon has to offer (the AF is another story though)
Its gotten a touch better on the new firmware. flying small things is still a struggle. Video to come on the new firmware tests
@@WILDALASKA for reasons I won't go into right now, I think this affair of the AF is going to be like the stock market (ups&downs). It's always handy to have the previous version at hand's reach just in case, just in case...
24:33 you say it's 500mm, Lightroom says 70-200 @200 😊
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I have to laugh at Canon - Nikon 200-500 f5.6 price in Australia ~ AUD $1600. Canon RF 100-500 - AUD $5k...Sony's 200-600 is ~2k AUD too. So, are Nikon and Sony underpriced or is Canon overpriced? If I didn't hate the Nikon UI, I'd be tempted to switch to a Z9...
Not only is Canon blocking 3rd party lens manufacturers from the RF mount deliberately, they are price gouging their customers on RF lenses...ALL of them. Even the humbe nifty 50 - $100 more for the RF version than the EF version in Australia...for what is probably identical optics.
The Nikon 200-500 is f mount. The closest equivalent in Z glass will be the 200-600 that's not released and it will probably be 2.5K if it holds in line with the Sony as its based on that lens.
Also your paying more for d drastic weight reduction on the rf 100-500 as that Sony 200-600 is a brick. Theres a lot into pricing and features.
Prices are pretty much the same.
The PF range is the same as canons old DO range with same pricing.
But pick whatever floats your boat
@@WILDALASKA I've hand held a D3 and 200-500 years ago and wasn't too bad. I've never hand held the Sony 200-600 but yeah, it's beast of a lens, but not super heavy at 2kg, although yeah, 700g heavier than the Canon RF 100-500, agreed.