Yeah was thinking the same. The guy was since a certain point least useful one there. WS spam is some vanilla ass old strat... not even using webway to capitalize on all of that mobility
Angel absolutely ran that game, they performed absolutely spectacularly. Really impressive to watch how one player can set the course of a game. Big shoutout to Big Mathis for a great performance too.
i remenber the last time angel played a farseer they completely dominated using her. they are a really good eldar player allways love seeing them in replays
Death come once more for the Eldars. As a massive fleet of Tyranid bio ships make their way through imperial space, Aeldari warriors frantically evacuate all outposts and exodite worlds in it's path, preferring to let the Humans deal with the threat. However, as their fleet was getting ready to depart the sector, a strange signal is discovered on a world long thought dead. No one, not even the mighty seers of Ulthwé can make sense of the call. That is, until a large force of Warp-Spiders assemble, asking others to help them reach the strange signal. For it is not a message or a call for help, but a cry of war and death. It is the cry of their Phoenix Lord, Lhykosidae.
Peroncho : go top noob Also Peroncho : being pretty much dead weight most of the game. Couldn't help deal with top when the warlock clearly needed a little help on top
That was insanely high level and a fun game. I am not sure about triple Fire Prism against the Nid though (but I guess it work out in the end), would like to see Haywire into Eldritc with that many Spiders around but guess that's already enough for them in the end
@IndridCasts Levitation Field do ability knockback, which affects big bois like the Chaos Lord, Brother Captain, Hive Tyrant, Terminators, etc BTW Great cast, as always.
Tyranid team should had taken this. Orks and the Tyranids are the only 2 factions where there's literally numbers and hard punching units to counter every other factions. Eldar team had very good team micro and utilization of teamwork. Guy who spammed Warp Spider definitely knew how to lure the nid away from mid. The Eldar playing Warlock hero utilizing 3 Fire Prism at the end also sealed the deal for Nids. Nid going with 3 Hive Tyrant seems to be their downfall. When battling Eldar; you need more than just numbers since Eldar got too much unit perks. 1 Nid going with Lictor Alpha definitely could had changed the entire battle since Lictor Alpha could go behind the lines to sabotage and strike down Eldar vital units.
We all saw Peroncho was the main noob in this game. Teleport in, get overrun, retreat. That was his game. Well played Angel for gameplay and ignoring that sore loser so well.
the two things that suprise me the most is how you a) you consistantly get 1000% more views then the player base and b) you remember all the names you give hive tyrants
As someone new to Elite Mod and how it works (but enjoying the casts), is it just me or do Fire Prisms seem to be very... lacking? Perhaps someone with experience with Elite mod can tell me how, where, and why they'd be good but from what I see here they are severely underwhelming.
They are good for denying melee and ranged units that can be knocked back especially melee. Usually, you zone out vehicles that threaten your units by anti vehicle set up teams. However, this can't be done against fire prism due to its super long range. Thus, FP has to be countered by shoving in fast or durable anti vehicle unit that cannot be knocked back whether it be a vehicle or an infantry or a hero so that FP cannot make use of its range to kite. When in a situation this is not possible, FP is extremely powerful denying all forms of infantry from even approaching. The problem here is that FP does not provide any value vs Tyranids. Their T3 mainly consist of monster units that cannot be knocked back. FP does have anti vehicle beam mode but it is lacking compared to other tanks. You don't really want to buy FP to counter enemy T3 tank in general except vs Orks. Also, need to consider that this is a faction war. In a normal 3v3, 3 eldar vs 3 nidz never happen as it is not optimal to choose 3 factions of the same race. Think of FP behind a wall of Terminators. It will be extremely annoying to deal with.
that mathis, what a player, almost singlehandedly brought it back. side note, maybe it's just me, but this feels like a horrible matchup for the niddies, especially T2
Used to be Tyranids often rolled Eldar in faction wars. They still might; don't know. But if they arrive in T3 on equal footing, it's a bit of an uphill battle for the Eldar.
3v3 faction war are really not balanced at all. So it is really possible that some factions have more difficulties than other. But Angel is also an amazing player
@@danielbwest Elite mod is balanced around 1v1 matches. So this match up in a 1v1, say Eldar spam Warp Spiders, 'nids could respond with say genestealers to eat them up in melee, or Eldar could diversify their force meaning nids could try to break them down piece meal with a carnifex going after guardians and vemon broods going for a fire prism, or whatever. Just some rough examples. There's counter play and everyone's limited by pop and resources, and you have to try and cover the whole map alone as well. In 3v3, one player can specialise in one thing, like Warp Spider spam, and don't have to worry about the lack of hard AT or lack of melee engagement because the other two players can cover those roles, while also focusing on covering their smaller parts of the map until they're needed for the big team fights. You can also lose your whole army and reasonably comeback from it because your teammates can cover for you for a while. If someone counterplays you in a 1v1 because you over specialised or they're just better or whatever, that normally spells the end of the game. 3v3, an opponent has gone heavy into anti-infantry, lets say, and wiped your early tier force. Well you can respond with tanks in a 3v3, that opponent now has a chunk of their army that has to change out and deal with that tech change, or has to lane swap and roam or whatver. In a 1v1, you've probably lost or deseperately trying to regain map presence. That's before considering units like the Land Raider, which is solid option in 1v1 (if expensive) that gives you a mobile gun platform that can reinforce people. In a 3v3 that's 3 armies having a supporting gun platform that does a bit of everything, can reinforce in the field during big team fights, they can protect the Land Raider etc etc. Also Buffs that are only meant to support in faction really, like the Force Commander's Banner buff, being applied to Orks for example; along side their own buffs, suddenly turns even your basic Slugga Boyz into a pretty scary unit, rather than allowing Tactical Marines to punch above their weight is another example. Not to say it's 'unbalanced'; 'nids do have options (I think they mostly just got outplayed), but a good Eldar Player can be a complete menace anyway, Angel for example in the video. Then they have the 'safety net' of their allies in a 3v3, means they can dominate. The same can be said in reserve though, so it's really not as bad as it's made out to be sometimes. Just the mod team isn't overly concerned with how 3v3's playout, they're more focused on the competitive aspect of 1v1s. Ultimately this means in the Faction War though, a faction that is largely about early steamrolling, like 'nids, has a tougher time closing games if they aren't able to completely capitalise on that early game advantage, which is harder to do in a 3v3.
Public service reminder. 1. All faction strength, weakness, unit abilities, stats are designed to work in 1v1 settings. 2. All modes of game share same unit stats and technically cannot be made to have different stats. When changing one, it affects all others. Only one mode can be balanced as a result. 3. Elite Mod is a 1v1 balance mod. Team games are not considered when patching. 4. In a teamgame, each faction is a tool, a part of a combination as a team. There is an OP/UP combination but not an OP/UP faction. 3 same faction teams are always easily countered.
![WH40k: Dawn of War 2 - 3v3 | Nightmare + eM7 + uphighdow3 [vs] Slime + Dark Riku + TyranidTerror](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IPo1nv3LoDo/mqdefault.jpg)
![Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War 2 - 3v3 | tanksniper + CrAzY + Schmus [vs] Derwisch + Lokyo + Bojygos](/img/n.gif)
Angel absolute MVP, congratulations.
Peroncho devaluador, you've no right to call anyone a noob LMAO 25:56
My thoughts exactly
No respect for anyone who can't be nice.
Yeah was thinking the same. The guy was since a certain point least useful one there. WS spam is some vanilla ass old strat... not even using webway to capitalize on all of that mobility
after work, it's very cool to see a good faction war
tyranids: NOOO YOU CANT KEEP USING LEVITATION WE CANT SHRED YOU INTO A THOUSAND PIECES
angel the farseer: haha levitation go swoosh
Angel absolutely ran that game, they performed absolutely spectacularly. Really impressive to watch how one player can set the course of a game. Big shoutout to Big Mathis for a great performance too.
Dead game enjoyer made it very easy for Angel by melee blobbing against the farseer with gravity blade.
@@BigMathis Yep, painful to watch. Didn't seem to understand how to use melee against a FS. Should probably just have gone ranged.
i remenber the last time angel played a farseer they completely dominated using her. they are a really good eldar player allways love seeing them in replays
Death come once more for the Eldars. As a massive fleet of Tyranid bio ships make their way through imperial space, Aeldari warriors frantically evacuate all outposts and exodite worlds in it's path, preferring to let the Humans deal with the threat. However, as their fleet was getting ready to depart the sector, a strange signal is discovered on a world long thought dead. No one, not even the mighty seers of Ulthwé can make sense of the call. That is, until a large force of Warp-Spiders assemble, asking others to help them reach the strange signal. For it is not a message or a call for help, but a cry of war and death. It is the cry of their Phoenix Lord, Lhykosidae.
Your setup plot blurb for all the Faction War casts are great, now I actually scroll down and look for them just before watching :D
👏
Peroncho : go top noob
Also Peroncho : being pretty much dead weight most of the game. Couldn't help deal with top when the warlock clearly needed a little help on top
Loving Indrid's Spanish Hive Tyrants as always.
I like to imagine that the Hive Tyrant charging at the end went "YABBA DABBA DOOOOO" xd
Also, Peroncho was a dick :/
Man i really love this faction wars! I hope artanis wins vs the zerg!
Awesome game guys your the man Indrid!!! Comments for the comment throne
9:49 Awesome sub support commander, passively damages nearby allies with damage resistance.
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Caught that too. But he stumbles with his words immediately afterwards so I guess he lost the trail midsentence xD
19:17 Hyper speed Autarch!
"Fleet of WTF"
Thanks for uploading so many videos lately. We love you, Indrid!
Warlock was taken out by splash damage of the tyrant guard I believe
That was insanely high level and a fun game. I am not sure about triple Fire Prism against the Nid though (but I guess it work out in the end), would like to see Haywire into Eldritc with that many Spiders around but guess that's already enough for them in the end
at 28:20 an eldrich with that wailing doom would have been a nice topper.
Oh man mass Warpspiders, my fav thing to see... cuz it can go wrong sooo easily... but when it works its just so good
"back noob" "go top noob" says the warp spider spammer who only ever teleports them all at once in a blob hahah
It really was pathetic.
Eldar are by far the hardest factionnro play so if your not skilled you get exposed big time
The worst player in the game calling people noob.
there was actually some good micro with WS but the BM imediatelly outshines any good micro.
@IndridCasts Levitation Field do ability knockback, which affects big bois like the Chaos Lord, Brother Captain, Hive Tyrant, Terminators, etc
BTW Great cast, as always.
Ricarduno, Ricardos, Ricartres
Tyranid team should had taken this. Orks and the Tyranids are the only 2 factions where there's literally numbers and hard punching units to counter every other factions. Eldar team had very good team micro and utilization of teamwork. Guy who spammed Warp Spider definitely knew how to lure the nid away from mid. The Eldar playing Warlock hero utilizing 3 Fire Prism at the end also sealed the deal for Nids. Nid going with 3 Hive Tyrant seems to be their downfall. When battling Eldar; you need more than just numbers since Eldar got too much unit perks. 1 Nid going with Lictor Alpha definitely could had changed the entire battle since Lictor Alpha could go behind the lines to sabotage and strike down Eldar vital units.
We all saw Peroncho was the main noob in this game. Teleport in, get overrun, retreat. That was his game. Well played Angel for gameplay and ignoring that sore loser so well.
Love you Indrid keep running shit
the two things that suprise me the most is how you a) you consistantly get 1000% more views then the player base and b) you remember all the names you give hive tyrants
As someone new to Elite Mod and how it works (but enjoying the casts), is it just me or do Fire Prisms seem to be very... lacking? Perhaps someone with experience with Elite mod can tell me how, where, and why they'd be good but from what I see here they are severely underwhelming.
They are good for denying melee and ranged units that can be knocked back especially melee. Usually, you zone out vehicles that threaten your units by anti vehicle set up teams. However, this can't be done against fire prism due to its super long range. Thus, FP has to be countered by shoving in fast or durable anti vehicle unit that cannot be knocked back whether it be a vehicle or an infantry or a hero so that FP cannot make use of its range to kite. When in a situation this is not possible, FP is extremely powerful denying all forms of infantry from even approaching.
The problem here is that FP does not provide any value vs Tyranids. Their T3 mainly consist of monster units that cannot be knocked back. FP does have anti vehicle beam mode but it is lacking compared to other tanks. You don't really want to buy FP to counter enemy T3 tank in general except vs Orks.
Also, need to consider that this is a faction war. In a normal 3v3, 3 eldar vs 3 nidz never happen as it is not optimal to choose 3 factions of the same race. Think of FP behind a wall of Terminators. It will be extremely annoying to deal with.
@@impregnable-retributioneli1530 Ah, I see. Thank you for the explanation.
GG
that mathis, what a player, almost singlehandedly brought it back. side note, maybe it's just me, but this feels like a horrible matchup for the niddies, especially T2
Yeah, what a player indeed 🤣
Used to be Tyranids often rolled Eldar in faction wars. They still might; don't know. But if they arrive in T3 on equal footing, it's a bit of an uphill battle for the Eldar.
gg
Man this video makes me depressed that dow 3 died and was poorly done T.T
faction warZ is da b3st!......................where da Orks!
I know nothing about DoW2 multiplayer or this mod but it seems like Tyranids always disadvantaged
3v3 faction war are really not balanced at all. So it is really possible that some factions have more difficulties than other. But Angel is also an amazing player
@@bonbatomic how's it not balanced?
@@danielbwest Elite mod is balanced around 1v1 matches. So this match up in a 1v1, say Eldar spam Warp Spiders, 'nids could respond with say genestealers to eat them up in melee, or Eldar could diversify their force meaning nids could try to break them down piece meal with a carnifex going after guardians and vemon broods going for a fire prism, or whatever. Just some rough examples. There's counter play and everyone's limited by pop and resources, and you have to try and cover the whole map alone as well.
In 3v3, one player can specialise in one thing, like Warp Spider spam, and don't have to worry about the lack of hard AT or lack of melee engagement because the other two players can cover those roles, while also focusing on covering their smaller parts of the map until they're needed for the big team fights. You can also lose your whole army and reasonably comeback from it because your teammates can cover for you for a while. If someone counterplays you in a 1v1 because you over specialised or they're just better or whatever, that normally spells the end of the game. 3v3, an opponent has gone heavy into anti-infantry, lets say, and wiped your early tier force. Well you can respond with tanks in a 3v3, that opponent now has a chunk of their army that has to change out and deal with that tech change, or has to lane swap and roam or whatver. In a 1v1, you've probably lost or deseperately trying to regain map presence.
That's before considering units like the Land Raider, which is solid option in 1v1 (if expensive) that gives you a mobile gun platform that can reinforce people. In a 3v3 that's 3 armies having a supporting gun platform that does a bit of everything, can reinforce in the field during big team fights, they can protect the Land Raider etc etc. Also Buffs that are only meant to support in faction really, like the Force Commander's Banner buff, being applied to Orks for example; along side their own buffs, suddenly turns even your basic Slugga Boyz into a pretty scary unit, rather than allowing Tactical Marines to punch above their weight is another example.
Not to say it's 'unbalanced'; 'nids do have options (I think they mostly just got outplayed), but a good Eldar Player can be a complete menace anyway, Angel for example in the video. Then they have the 'safety net' of their allies in a 3v3, means they can dominate. The same can be said in reserve though, so it's really not as bad as it's made out to be sometimes. Just the mod team isn't overly concerned with how 3v3's playout, they're more focused on the competitive aspect of 1v1s. Ultimately this means in the Faction War though, a faction that is largely about early steamrolling, like 'nids, has a tougher time closing games if they aren't able to completely capitalise on that early game advantage, which is harder to do in a 3v3.
Public service reminder.
1. All faction strength, weakness, unit abilities, stats are designed to work in 1v1 settings.
2. All modes of game share same unit stats and technically cannot be made to have different stats. When changing one, it affects all others. Only one mode can be balanced as a result.
3. Elite Mod is a 1v1 balance mod. Team games are not considered when patching.
4. In a teamgame, each faction is a tool, a part of a combination as a team. There is an OP/UP combination but not an OP/UP faction. 3 same faction teams are always easily countered.
@@impregnable-retributioneli1530 thanks for such detailed info, incredible work work such limitations. i will just enjoy the spectacle!
Best eldar game I've ever seen, GG wp to all