I think she is unknown equivalent to what Margaret is...a support that can double as a dps or a dps that can double as a support, both sets are good for her
The only thing being that Margaret is not as good as echidna as a dps and Echidna is not as good as Margaret when it comes to supporting. Still a cracked unit tho
I've built my Unknown team for a while now and it is honestly crazy to me how consistent the team is because of how often it gets new units. Emelia, Fest Merlin, Summer Merlin, Fest Gowther (and now his relic), Rimuru, and now Echidna (with Ram always being that backline god for the stats). Arguably on Ban's team has had more consistent support and updates to keep it relevant, but even then it's so weird that *unknown* gets so much support when demons seem to only come into the meta for a month or so at a time.
the reason why demons were shafted was because they got the last beast battle so they get their relic late most demons do not have their relic yet, meanwhile unknown have the advantage that a lot of collab units are unknown and they get their relics on release. The problem with a character that get a relic on release is that often they will get powercreeped faster. Honestly gods are the ones who need help right now not even demons, liz will need a great relic to make gods any good.
23:13 Nag: "yea just awful, you need to get max buffs" *he says while destroying the whole team* Well I sure am sad that I got this awful character in 90 gems.
Wish they did that for some other units. Like Rimuru melting into a slime puddle or The One quietly sputtering out in flames before dissolving to cinders.
I think Zeldris isn’t hitting as hard as Rimuru, Echidna and even Loli Merlin with his Aoe because Rimuru’s Relic and passive gives him pierce, Loli Merlin’s relic increase her attack when the ennemies are debuffed and Echidna’s relic gives her extra damage on debuffed ennemies and her passive gives her attack increase. Zeldris doesn’t have any of that so that’s why I guess
I think we should start taking into account how many total hits a character does in a a attack because her and zeldris having the same infect card and them having non comparable damage
She isn't the best unit in the game not even in pvp let alone overall in fact the unit beside her that came is much better then her what have u been smoking g
So Om Zel has for the most part has better stats than Echidna, nothing huge, but noticeable in some places. So riddle me this, why is a HP/DEF Echidna's damage like 2X of what ATK/Crit ON Zel can do w/ Encroachment? I might just be dumb & miss some obvious thing, but I'm still convinced he's bugged somehow. B/c even the older Zel's do more or similar damage.
I got a question. Can I have more than one Grace equipped in the association slot and all of them activate? I know more than one commandment cant activate but can more than one Grace activate?
Yes, the only thing is you can't have two of the same grace activate. So, if you have an association for Ludociel, Sariel, and Tarmiel they will all work. If you have Ludociel, Margaret (Ludociel), and Sariel, only the left-most grace for Ludociel will activate.
Okay I got a question I used to be able to buy in game like skins and Damond’s and stuff but the iOS store saying security code is invaild your payment method is not valid in this store please enter a new payment method can someone tell me what I’m doing wrong like I switched my iOS store to Japan store and it saying my card is not valid what am I supposed to do plzzzzz help
Did you change to the Japanese App Store before you made the purchase or did you make a few purchases before and then changed to the jp one and it didnt work after? Because on IOS, you can’t make purchases from a country’s App Store that you don’t have a card for. So if you wanted to use the Japanese App Store, then you’d need a Japanese credit/debit card.
Yall i managed to get 2/6 echidna 1/6 rein (didnt use guaranteed box and have 3 coins too) Whats better 2/6 echi 3/6 rein OR 4/6 echi 1/6 rein (Have rem 1/6 ram 1/6 emili 2/6) The 3 coins i said is 1 coin for each above
nag or anyone can you tell me which character is better i can trade 3 coins for one lol ( got a beatrice one and had her before, other free rem and ram coins i have both of them also )
His ult basically triggers his passive again but depending on your ult lvl it increases how many times it triggers so at 6/6 he gets every buff in his passive for 1 turn
her infect card does more damage than Zel because for one she has BUFFS lol & secondly her card hits more time than Zel , his only hit 3 & hers hit like 4-5 times lol why nag so surprised
Thats literally just the wasei eigo or Japanese pronunciation of English words to fit into the Japanese language character system. The actual correct pronunciation is “ek-hid-na.” For one example, the name “Gilgamesh” in Japanese is pronounced as “Gi-ru-ga-me-shu. You wouldn’t say Girugameshu in English, you would just pronounce it as Gilgamesh. Another example would be the word “tart” as in the pastry. It’s pronounced “ta-ru-to” in Japanese, but you wouldn’t say taruto in English you would just say tart. Edit: autocorrect Edit 2: the term is actually Gairaigo, NOT wasei eigo. It’s basically just English loan words/names that have extra syllables in their pronunciation to better fit with the japanese syllable structure.
@@justanamygdala8562 i didnt say spell ek-hi-do-na 🙂 i said; i watch the show and Japanese ppl said ek-hi-do-na and feels weird to hear ek-hid-na 😅 and yes still weird to hear right spell after hear countless time wrong one 🤣🤣
This is why I don't really rely on GC whales anymore and what they have to say. They say EVERY new unit is broken or OP or BUSTED AF! And it doesn't give a realistic vision for those who are f2p and can probably go one or even 2 rotations if they've saved enough gems. They just whale on getting the characters 6/6 and say they're busted. Every damn time nowadays.
Unknowns haven't really been bad for ages though The only bad unknown was gowther and his relic saved him, unknown has been going steady so its safe to assume Echidna will be good for unknowns and a good unit for ages
I think she is unknown equivalent to what Margaret is...a support that can double as a dps or a dps that can double as a support, both sets are good for her
The only thing being that Margaret is not as good as echidna as a dps and Echidna is not as good as Margaret when it comes to supporting. Still a cracked unit tho
More like was
Margaret is straight up support now
her dps got outdated
Too bad Margaret got AoE Charge
If she had AoE sever she would of been so good for dps still
In high rank pvp hp def will be the go to I think, but giving her atk crit can help u farm pve and pvp at lower tiers
@@theboss1829 The problem with Margaret dps is more like the effect. Charge was a shit effect when she was released and even worse now.
She and Reinhard did both 1m from normal ranked up attacks
This is very epic
And Nag said she was support 💀
Estarossa is support because he increases basic stats and damage dealt too
Estarossa also debuffs so he must be a support
Definition of support in 7ds grand cross nowadays: unit that wips all the enemy units lmao in short a single handler unit.🗿
Imagine if she was dps🗿
He means Sub-Dps a secondary support DPS
I've built my Unknown team for a while now and it is honestly crazy to me how consistent the team is because of how often it gets new units. Emelia, Fest Merlin, Summer Merlin, Fest Gowther (and now his relic), Rimuru, and now Echidna (with Ram always being that backline god for the stats). Arguably on Ban's team has had more consistent support and updates to keep it relevant, but even then it's so weird that *unknown* gets so much support when demons seem to only come into the meta for a month or so at a time.
Demons are memes
Demons are top 2 pvp teams atm on global and should remain top 3 even after re zero
the power of Unknown is incredible
the reason why demons were shafted was because they got the last beast battle so they get their relic late most demons do not have their relic yet, meanwhile unknown have the advantage that a lot of collab units are unknown and they get their relics on release. The problem with a character that get a relic on release is that often they will get powercreeped faster. Honestly gods are the ones who need help right now not even demons, liz will need a great relic to make gods any good.
its insane how far and away Unknown is as the best class
Especially considering how long it was before it got a single DPS.
23:13
Nag: "yea just awful, you need to get max buffs" *he says while destroying the whole team*
Well I sure am sad that I got this awful character in 90 gems.
You had to spend 90 gems?! That’s a waste, I lucky I only had to spend 60 to get this trash
When you wasting all your diamond to get Estarosa banner and then they realise the new Collab .😓
Need to see that godlike Beatrice showcase. 🗿
Beatrice fr the best unit out of all them
This is what nebula zeldris should have been doing 😭
i knooow. this is so unfair
9:23 "you hear something?, ITS DEAF."
HAHAHA😂
Death*
@@AlvNiko hearing what he said differently was the point of the joke my friend, that's the purpose of my comment, a joke
The triple crit chanse card on level 1 brings me back using red sariels level 3 AoE on the Green units
7:07 that was unexpected and at the same time soo cool
Her death animation is so cool and unique. She just nopes out of the fight
Wish they did that for some other units. Like Rimuru melting into a slime puddle or The One quietly sputtering out in flames before dissolving to cinders.
Yea just saw that it’s sick af. But I have to point out that Nag literally making a/2 mistake(s) every turn
@@nikolai1847 now that would be pretty cool ngl
I think Zeldris isn’t hitting as hard as Rimuru, Echidna and even Loli Merlin with his Aoe because Rimuru’s Relic and passive gives him pierce, Loli Merlin’s relic increase her attack when the ennemies are debuffed and Echidna’s relic gives her extra damage on debuffed ennemies and her passive gives her attack increase. Zeldris doesn’t have any of that so that’s why I guess
Nagato tried his very best on stream to give him the most attack related stats as possible and he wasn't able to kill level 1 ult liz
@@theboss1829 yeah you’re right I tried to copium that he can be good but even with those nice stats his just not hitting hard weirdly
@@ilianaffoque6366 I was so sure he was bugged but he's still out here throwing pebbles
For loli her dps comes mostly out of her passive even tho her hr helps
@@dorian_cthulhu lol
I think we should start taking into account how many total hits a character does in a a attack because her and zeldris having the same infect card and them having non comparable damage
nag to cosplay echidna on stream?!?
I cant wait for Demon King Meliodas to get foddered by strangers thing part 2 Steve Harrington and Dustin
She is now the best unit in the game and she will never get out dated I can't see it
Yeah she will prob not lost if you can give her cc or outfits, as a f2p she will get kicked about going second
She isn't the best unit in the game not even in pvp let alone overall in fact the unit beside her that came is much better then her what have u been smoking g
@@kpkazan that's why if you are not a whale you should use avoid food
hmmm...
What’s the best gear for the new units?
If zeldris had as much impact as echidna ranked might actually be fun with demons vs unknown
Might actually be able to play the game after turn 1
Lmao when Echidna dies. She just gets snapped by Thanos
So it she better with hp def or atk def?
9:16 (you hear something it's *DEATH* hahahah funny ASF!)
Still waiting for beatrice holy relic
Nagato: she’s not a dps unit
Nagato;omg
Would have liked if her passive applied buffs to allies too, rem would've been wacky
Fr echidna would like light liz but for unknowns
Supports hit different now and days
Guys is it a glitch or something but I can’t find the outfits for the rezero characters at all, are they gone once the event is over?
I've always wondered why Dona drank her own tea. I'm sure most of us knows what that tea contains
this might be the first time I spend on a collab, I need echidna 100%
take her. replace everything unknown related and make it demon. ominous zeldris would’ve been perfect 😞
But the demons team would be way to broken
try rimuru and the echidna with fest gowther and backline green ram (basically unknown mono green i think it would be a pretty good team)
when will the collab be out on global?
So Om Zel has for the most part has better stats than Echidna, nothing huge, but noticeable in some places. So riddle me this, why is a HP/DEF Echidna's damage like 2X of what ATK/Crit ON Zel can do w/ Encroachment?
I might just be dumb & miss some obvious thing, but I'm still convinced he's bugged somehow. B/c even the older Zel's do more or similar damage.
I got a question. Can I have more than one Grace equipped in the association slot and all of them activate? I know more than one commandment cant activate but can more than one Grace activate?
Yes, the only thing is you can't have two of the same grace activate. So, if you have an association for Ludociel, Sariel, and Tarmiel they will all work. If you have Ludociel, Margaret (Ludociel), and Sariel, only the left-most grace for Ludociel will activate.
Okay I got a question I used to be able to buy in game like skins and Damond’s and stuff but the iOS store saying security code is invaild your payment method is not valid in this store please enter a new payment method can someone tell me what I’m doing wrong like I switched my iOS store to Japan store and it saying my card is not valid what am I supposed to do plzzzzz help
Did you change to the Japanese App Store before you made the purchase or did you make a few purchases before and then changed to the jp one and it didnt work after? Because on IOS, you can’t make purchases from a country’s App Store that you don’t have a card for. So if you wanted to use the Japanese App Store, then you’d need a Japanese credit/debit card.
@@justanamygdala8562 thank u
What gear should i put to echidna
ATK,DEF or ATK,CRIT
Echidna is like traitor meliodas but only works on unknown units?
So what gear is the best on her
sheeeesh 3.5 mil missing 2 crits is crazy
So far sure what kind of gear do u want on her
Nag do u think they are going to do another collaboration with AOT
How do u get her I'm not that good at the game tbh
Is she still available or was she just an event unit?
Demons are getting the catastrophe treatment
Love his reaction when the chan man shows up
Should I be running HP/CRIT on Summer Merlin or HP/DEF?
HP deff
When will the update come to global?
im sorry, but Echinda's death animation and additional sever animation is both amazing and very much troll
Honestly I have no idea why games never make Subaru a playable character he can actually fight now so why not make him a character
like they don't make little escanor as playable character
Probably because he can only fight in the novel for now, not in the anime as they haven't gotten that far. So they likely want to avoid spoilers.
I wonder how good it would be if you did this team but replace gowther or Merlin with rem while she has her holy relic.
Happy to see her do well, can’t wait for them to hit global 😩😤
Yall i managed to get 2/6 echidna 1/6 rein (didnt use guaranteed box and have 3 coins too)
Whats better 2/6 echi 3/6 rein OR 4/6 echi 1/6 rein
(Have rem 1/6 ram 1/6 emili 2/6)
The 3 coins i said is 1 coin for each above
Nag: does zeldris card do that?
Me: well she gives herself attack buffs. So of course she would look better with that card.
Plus the back buffs, that's +60% ATK & +30% Cri/CritD +30% Pierce, + the relic damage.
Rimuru, or even Merlin, would be a more equal comparison.
LMFAO my man said her ult is “awful” without the buffs then proceeds to wipe the team with 400k dmg on EACH unit…
How would a rimuru echidna team look like
I’m building hp/crit for her
I’m gonna sit here and wait for echidna with the dog 👀👀
Coming the new update in global today
Wait I thought disable was only on blue affects and her ult doesn't have blue affects
Disable works on everything except stances and recovery skills
What could i use instead of Merlin if i don't have her??
you can use rimuru for full damage or Emilia for her freezing
I don't have merlin too then I will run rimuru for another damage and for his ultimate
@@คิซซิง sadly, i don't have Emilia, i'll try to get her, on the other hand, i already have rimuru.
how is she in normal pvp ?
nag or anyone can you tell me which character is better i can trade 3 coins for one lol ( got a beatrice one and had her before, other free rem and ram coins i have both of them also )
@@imbored2200 interesting because i have ban 6/6 and i think Arthur too but im confused about his ult and passive are they sorta similar?
His ult basically triggers his passive again but depending on your ult lvl it increases how many times it triggers so at 6/6 he gets every buff in his passive for 1 turn
Pink haired one is ram… not rem
Did they buff beatrice or not 😭
ok. im dying to see reinheart in geared pvp. please make a video soon.
How many free relics can we make for collabs with this event?
6 in total i think
idk whether to be sad or not. i did all the challenges to get the free best girl, used the tickets to summon and got another best girl
damn zeldris wishes he was like echidna, she literally has two aoe's, would of been perfect support for the demon team
I just got her on first multi…
I am looking for a account because my phone broke now can't get it back
her infect card does more damage than Zel because for one she has BUFFS lol & secondly her card hits more time than Zel , his only hit 3 & hers hit like 4-5 times lol why nag so surprised
oh boy this update is gonna hurt my wallet
She deals more damage than king😭
Bro she is a support, don t be scared, she can t do that much dmg
The support:
When does she come out on global so I can save my money lol
New zeldris now = 😭😭😭
Level 1 in My box for ever
bro Nag said she was a support nah bruh💀💀💀
39 sec uploaded leggo
Sheesh my echidna does not do much damage and that I put your gear
Maybe i am wrong
The new units are so broken yet the banner is trash
She gotta be 6/6
enchinda is wat zeldris shoulda been
you spell her name "ek-hid-na" japaness anime spell "ek-hi-do-na" fells weird to hear from you ek-hid-na :D
That's what i was about to say its ek-hi-do-na
Thats literally just the wasei eigo or Japanese pronunciation of English words to fit into the Japanese language character system. The actual correct pronunciation is “ek-hid-na.” For one example, the name “Gilgamesh” in Japanese is pronounced as “Gi-ru-ga-me-shu. You wouldn’t say Girugameshu in English, you would just pronounce it as Gilgamesh. Another example would be the word “tart” as in the pastry. It’s pronounced “ta-ru-to” in Japanese, but you wouldn’t say taruto in English you would just say tart.
Edit: autocorrect
Edit 2: the term is actually Gairaigo, NOT wasei eigo. It’s basically just English loan words/names that have extra syllables in their pronunciation to better fit with the japanese syllable structure.
@@justanamygdala8562 i didnt say spell ek-hi-do-na 🙂 i said; i watch the show and Japanese ppl said ek-hi-do-na and feels weird to hear ek-hid-na 😅 and yes still weird to hear right spell after hear countless time wrong one 🤣🤣
Nice
Bro, you call Rem and Ram the same name. Ram’s name is just like the first part of ramen. Like, ramen noodles.
R-aa-am
R-ay-m
@@lucynatas8458 At least it’s not ‘Millum’.
@@MrKAOSAir lmao 😂😂 men's be butchering the name but then again inghlish is herd for my boi nogoto
@@lucynatas8458 Facts facts
BEST dps
People who don't have summer merlin 🤡
(just like me)
Same here😞
Margaret 2.0 but for unknown's
nuuts
imagine if she was a demon 😂🤣 sadge
Hello
Def gonna skip thonar for this collab (not strong enough to do any beasts)
noice
ok
she is clearly a support not even hitting as hard as red lostvayne with full ur crit defense with pierce, crit defense, and lifesteal rolls
the rates are so horrid it literally motivates me to not play the game
Thank God I didn't summon for zeldris utter trash
ECHIDNUT
Every new char is OP, broken, unbeatable,... until next one is released
Then old chars are pure trash.
Except zeldris
ZELDRIS be like: 😐🖕
This is why I don't really rely on GC whales anymore and what they have to say. They say EVERY new unit is broken or OP or BUSTED AF! And it doesn't give a realistic vision for those who are f2p and can probably go one or even 2 rotations if they've saved enough gems. They just whale on getting the characters 6/6 and say they're busted. Every damn time nowadays.
@@lupus_aeterna7793 true but even a P2W Zeldris is still horrible
Unknowns haven't really been bad for ages though
The only bad unknown was gowther and his relic saved him, unknown has been going steady so its safe to assume Echidna will be good for unknowns and a good unit for ages
I don't like what I'm seeing
Edit: I'm a demon team user