This 11K Mile 1993 Pontiac Grand Prix is Loaded with 90s Tech But Looks More Exciting Than It Is

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  • TV commercials for the (then) new Grand Prix:
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    Vehicle is for sale at Autohaus of Naples, on the web at www.AutohausNap... , or by phone at (239) 263-8500.
    There is a soft spot in my heart for these cars, because I was a fairly young man when they came out, and there were a few in my life. I also worked at a Pontiac dealership in 1993, so I was around them when they were new - it's one of the cars of my youth.
    But to appraise the situation honestly, I can readily admit that underneath all the whiz-bang tech and gadgetry, the car just wasn't all that exciting. It was a front-drive coupe with odd proportions that had reasonable performance, but far from earth-shattering. They made for good transportation, and were interesting to look at, but they were also fairly expensive at the time, and well outside my budget.
    Having this nearly new example now brings back a lot of memories, and I am thoroughly enjoying having it around. It drives very well, looks like nothing else on the road today, and gets a lot of appreciative attention from people who knew them and people who didn't - the look of this car seems to have aged very well.
    The gadgets inside are great fun - the bizarre switchgear, the funky door handles, the heads-up display, the combination lock glovebox - all very outside the box and cool. Also the stereo sounds great. And I secretly love the NASCAR them the prior owner cultivated, included Rusty Wallace's signature (and Kenny's) on the back of the passenger sun visor, as well as the yellow-letter Goodyear NASCAR radials.
    All in all, this car makes a great entry level collectible and fun cruiser - it looks sharp, is ridiculously easy to maintain, and brings back fond memories of my youth - what more could I really ask of it?

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  • @swaggernaut
    @swaggernaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +415

    Even by modern standards, it looks gorgeous!

    • @curiouscars9282
      @curiouscars9282  3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      I was surprised by how attractive I found it now that I haven't seen any on the road in a decade.

    • @swaggernaut
      @swaggernaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@curiouscars9282 I think it’s because the spoilers and the rims make the car looking cooler than the standard models.

    • @a.s.4914
      @a.s.4914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@swaggernaut the narrow headlight openings make the front end look really good. Could you imagine it with pop up headlights? 🤢 I'd love to be driving this car.

    • @rogerspacebucks450
      @rogerspacebucks450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Pontiac styling has aged better than other GM models.

    • @Njderig
      @Njderig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Especially by modern standards it looks good because modern cars are extremely hideous

  • @TheHelado36
    @TheHelado36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    In my opinion one of the most beautiful design from GM

    • @tpsyturvy6987
      @tpsyturvy6987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah it is especially those headlights.

    • @fortheloveofnoise
      @fortheloveofnoise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Best GM design of the 90s.

    • @hakeemsd70m
      @hakeemsd70m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fortheloveofnoise Agreed, alongside the C5 Corvette. I absolutely love the GM10 Grand Prix. I hate the seat belts on the doors, however. Love the recessed headlights on this model.

    • @joshuawellwerts2078
      @joshuawellwerts2078 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought they looked great. The turbo grand prix was beautiful looking

  • @Ravaniscool
    @Ravaniscool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    My very first car I bought on my own was a 1993 Grand Am GT V-6 and I absolutely loved it. This Grand Prix is beautiful inside/out.

  • @OnTheRocks71
    @OnTheRocks71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    The 24v 3.4 was a very interesting motor, quite powerful too. They held their own against my 1993 Taurus SHO. Cars like these are a sad reminder that we live in a world of crossover SUV's with turbo 4 cylinders that the engineers have managed to remove all character from.

    • @zackjay71
      @zackjay71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did you not know how to shift? Unless yours was auto. You’d smoke these. That Sho always gave me a hard time in my 94 mustang gt. Id win out after 45mph. And a roll. Id smoke them. But those shos were fast. I used to race dozens of cars a night on the weekends out on Gratiot ave. Back in the 90’s. These Grand Prix’s never stood a chance.

    • @Brian-fp3mh
      @Brian-fp3mh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My buddy had a 1996 Monte Carlo SS with the 3.4 engine and it was in the shop 4-6 times a year for misfires bad plugs wires injectors…. Pretty much a POS

    • @thebigwhitehorse6228
      @thebigwhitehorse6228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zackjay71 ...yeah....I acquired a 90 Grand Prix and they were not designed for racing...but the steering and suspension was designed for curves......

    • @FordPickUPRed
      @FordPickUPRed ปีที่แล้ว +2

      3.4L Was a horrible motor. I would destroy these cars with my SHO. Grand prix's 8.3 seconds to 60 and a 16 second quarter mile was nothing to brag about. 3.8L Series 2 was superior imo.

    • @derrickodyes1934
      @derrickodyes1934 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3.4 went ok tho were maintenance headaches with oil leaks, timing belt and idlers. 3800 beat a 3.4 everywhere. And the sho? Lol who wants to drive a pos ferd

  • @charger19691
    @charger19691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    The front end of these GP’s remind me of a 77 Trans Am. Very nice Grand Prix indeed! Looks mint!

    • @ed9492
      @ed9492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I doubt that's a coincidence.

  • @TheJeffcurran
    @TheJeffcurran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This car in many ways reminds me of my 94 Sunbird SE 3.1. Same color interior. Same interior switchgear. It was actually the ultimate urban assault vehicle. In a city like Chicago, the distance between stoplights is short. I killed a ton of Mustang GTs. If I had seen this video back in April 2021 I probably would have driven over to Naples to buy this.
    Cool car.
    I special ordered my Sunbird. Being in Chicago I didn't need A/C. So i checked off the A/C delete box. I also checked off the power window delete box. Bright Red, WS6 suspension, 15" alloy wheels. It was a blast to drive. I kept it for 8 years. I also had an '89 Formula 350 at the time. I kind of liked Pontiacs back in this era even though I was a mechanic at a Corvette specialty shop.

  • @BEGGARWOOD1
    @BEGGARWOOD1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Look forward to my Bill fix every week . Never fails to cheer me up .

  • @a.s.4914
    @a.s.4914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    When cars had a light under the hood..... good times. That should of never stopped. Nice car. Good work Bill.👍

    • @maddmavic
      @maddmavic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's topped because they want shops to work on shit. Money trail

  • @e.f.clarke2041
    @e.f.clarke2041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Somehow, I miss Bill’s complaints and ranting every day. Sorely needed video! Thanks, Bill!

    • @curiouscars9282
      @curiouscars9282  3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Very welcome - I did complain a bit on this one for sure.

    • @funguy4utube
      @funguy4utube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am glad we don't have California weather here in Florida or Bill would have less to complain about !

  • @Hrogan24
    @Hrogan24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I am addicted to Bill and his great car reviews!!

  • @James-sir
    @James-sir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The Pontiac brand was always great

    • @shutdown8947
      @shutdown8947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They need to bring it back

  • @thunderbird66613
    @thunderbird66613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow. The car looks better today then it did back in 93.

  • @joemorris3617
    @joemorris3617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Bill's gun storage tips on modern classic cars are very informative. Carryon, Bill.

  • @9rows
    @9rows 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    8:40 - bill just dropped a "give it a tug and up it comes" on us without even skipping a beat.

  • @Kirix
    @Kirix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had this car in Colorado. The recessed headlights would collect snow and you would have to pull over and dig snow out of the headlight space to be able to see at night

  • @bobbylee9000
    @bobbylee9000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    16:10 Look at that rabbit, He's staring me down. Classic, Thank you Bill.

  • @MrKormmodity
    @MrKormmodity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Bill I know it’s hard to find cars but you’ve got us hooked on two videos a week lol

    • @curiouscars9282
      @curiouscars9282  3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Believe me I'm working on it.

    • @robertvance1873
      @robertvance1873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@curiouscars9282 I love your humor 😂 it makes My day

  • @ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary
    @ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I'm by nature a Foreign Car Guy but this is one of the American cars that I really wanted but never got a chance to own... I always loved the looks of these!!

    • @maryrafuse3851
      @maryrafuse3851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looks like it is a foreign car, Canadian!

  • @israelballew4155
    @israelballew4155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Doug Demuro would love to get his hands on this.

    • @ttuggle31
      @ttuggle31 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yesssss he’s also a funny guy

  • @mattcaser6581
    @mattcaser6581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Bill, your delivery and comments about the goats, birds, cats, toddlers, drugs, guns and rabbits crack me up. Another well done vid.
    Hopefully someone buys that car and keeps it as a nice example of the era.

  • @OsoBlanco17
    @OsoBlanco17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    My friend had one of those while I was still driving a clapped out 1980 Z28. Going from the technology of my car to his 1993 it felt like I was sitting in a space shuttle 🤣

    • @FLINTmitten810
      @FLINTmitten810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’d still take the 1980 z28 any day. They were extremely slow but still had great styling, excellent handling, rear wheel drive, easy to wrench on, and easy to turn into a hot rod.

    • @OsoBlanco17
      @OsoBlanco17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FLINTmitten810 absolutely. As much as I like to joke on it, I wish I still had that car. The air induction hood, the breathers on the fenders and torque made an underpowered 350 a blast to drive…especially when your 17.

    • @FLINTmitten810
      @FLINTmitten810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OsoBlanco17 oh I bet lol. It’d be cool to have one done up properly and restored with like a 400hp/400tq engine in it and have some real fun. Any more power you wanna add on you can dream on but one of those cars with even 400 hp would be such a blast to have.

    • @yeethers
      @yeethers ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FLINTmitten810 I want one so bad. Gotta have t-tops for me though.

  • @rdl4530
    @rdl4530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Back in the day crossed shopped the SHO and 4 door GP.
    Ended up with the Yamaha v-6 ‘91 SHO w/ 5 speed manual.

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good choice

    • @lancemannion4113
      @lancemannion4113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You definitely made the right choice

  • @labornurse
    @labornurse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My sis bought a new 95 GTP in black on black leather, when she graduated college. It was a sweet ride. Cd players in cars were an exciting option then. It was a reliable GM product as well.

  • @johnnowaczyk1346
    @johnnowaczyk1346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I found a 1989 Grand Marquis on Facebook Marketplace with 79k miles and thought of you. They want 5,000. Super clean and no rust.

    • @firstnamelastname6171
      @firstnamelastname6171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He should do a review on that particular body style...1988-1991. Same goes for the Colony Park station wagon.

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could fit a good amount of narcotics inside of those, especially under the seats.

    • @johnnowaczyk1346
      @johnnowaczyk1346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@firstnamelastname6171 I wish he would. Would love to hear his comments.

  • @cardo1111
    @cardo1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The honeycomb retro alloys and tons of cladding, brings me back to the summer of '88 when guidettes would drive these in white, here in the NY Metro burbs 👍🏽

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahahaha. Mmm those guidettes fiery creatures.

    • @tpsyturvy6987
      @tpsyturvy6987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those are BBS wheels.

  • @ercsan
    @ercsan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Remember, the Chevy Beretta also had the "funky" door handles like the G body cars.

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Beretta was a good looking car. They were built in Delaware by drunkards (have a funny story about that) alongside its cousin the Olds Acheiva.

    • @jessieharbinjr.6589
      @jessieharbinjr.6589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t remember the G body is having those doorhandles. The 1st Gen W body however, and the L body’s did. They discontinued the body on frame G body in 1988 for the unibody front wheel drive GM10 w-body cars.

    • @ercsan
      @ercsan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessieharbinjr.6589 Meant the body the came in 1988 (W body?) . Rear wheel drive G bodies from 1978 to 1987 had traditional door handles.

    • @jessieharbinjr.6589
      @jessieharbinjr.6589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ercsan That would be the W body, correct! Those handles used to snap off whenever it would get cold outside people would tug on them, when they were iced over. Causing them to break overtime.

    • @jessieharbinjr.6589
      @jessieharbinjr.6589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember the dashboard on the 1988 to 1994 cutlass supreme warped really bad too. Especially around the defrost register. Instrument panel cluster was also vacuum fluorescent on the cutlass, and it would go out as well. Not the best in quality control. That’s why there’s not too many on the road anymore. Plus any of them with white paint would peel off in sheets! We had to repaint so many of them and the GM C/K trucks that were painted white.

  • @marcodarko6941
    @marcodarko6941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's a sharp looking car, reminds me of the black '93 Cutlass coupe my Mom had all those years ago. It is very nice to see one so clean and well preserved.
    The other day I spotted a white GTP oncoming, crossing a bridge. They do tend to catch your eye on the road. It was sagging in the rear and as it hit the bridge the front end bounced up and down. I gotta say it was only slightly amusing watching it in my mirror bouncing like a basketball down the road with the a s s end just a few inches off the ground.

  • @irishuwould5185
    @irishuwould5185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Beautiful car! The interior is just too cool. I remember seeing these all the time when I was a kid and always wanted one. Closest I got was a 95 Grand Am all back with the quad 4

  • @Paulthealien44
    @Paulthealien44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a beautiful car I didn't know they even existed until last night , I also just found this page and I love it ! Your giving Doug a run for his money ❤️

  • @dphitch
    @dphitch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jesus, the comedic element of your videos never get old, I'm crying over here.

  • @paulie-Gualtieri.
    @paulie-Gualtieri. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    How's it been hanging Bill? Great timing for a video, just finished dinner over here, had lamb chops I guess goat tastes the same with mint sauce.

    • @curiouscars9282
      @curiouscars9282  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Going well, Paulie. Lamb does sound nice for dinner.

    • @paulie-Gualtieri.
      @paulie-Gualtieri. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@curiouscars9282
      It was very good Bill grass fed plenty of rain here makes all the difference to the meat.

  • @bezalelkosofsky7286
    @bezalelkosofsky7286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also remember electronic sliding shoulder belts in the front seat where the shoulder belt buckles automatically when you turn on the motor and close the door and automatically unbuckles when you open the door but you still need to buckle and unbuckle the lap belt manually. When I asked Google why the electronic sliding shoulder belts were discontinued, it said that they were discontinued after air bags became mandatory in 1995.

  • @DangerousDevilOfficial
    @DangerousDevilOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It even has the narcotics box in the middle.... I am sold Bill! Wrap this baby up, it’s mine!

  • @danielesbordone1871
    @danielesbordone1871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    For some reason Pontiac went nuts with all the cheap and bulky plastic buttons. It was way over the top.

  • @OLDS98
    @OLDS98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you again for the GM / Pontiac video. You can see how they tried to carry some of the Grand Prix design features from generation to generation. I look forward to your Bonneville video. I hope you get more Oldsmobiles as you said.

  • @g.c.brooks7214
    @g.c.brooks7214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's amazing to see one of these in such clean condition. It's such a time capsule to where GM design was back in the late 1980s/early 90s.

  • @spinb
    @spinb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The only thing missing on that steering wheel are all the levers for the stereo equalizer.

    • @roninkraut6873
      @roninkraut6873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This made me laugh way too hard. 👍

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Easily one of the goofiest steering wheels ever conceived. They used it on several models too. For several years. A buddy of mine had a 89 Formula that was well equipped, and it had that steering wheel. Tho his buttons were either faded or missing. Which made it a guessing game.

  • @hailtothe_rooster1572
    @hailtothe_rooster1572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Brings back some memories. Had a white one that got stolen while I was inside a bar still hanging on to the 80s vibe. Someone had more fun in it than I ever did.

  • @chrismarasco2008
    @chrismarasco2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the memories, Bill. One of my best buds drove this around in high school in the late 90’s. The five of us used to run down to the Jersey Shore in it in 90 degree weather and no A/C. Good times.

  • @LynxStarAuto
    @LynxStarAuto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The 3.4 was a headache to service. It liked to eat timing belts too. The general rule of thumb is you do not want GM making OHC engines lol.

    • @HoyaSaxaSD
      @HoyaSaxaSD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true. Lol. Volleyball shorts and hair gel.

    • @jamesstephenson2346
      @jamesstephenson2346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya its a junk motor

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HoyaSaxaSD GM? Cam in the block and call'er good 😂

    • @mikeslomski7063
      @mikeslomski7063 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yes. Monte Carlo and Lumina Z34 had the same engine. I work at a Chevy dealer in the parts department, we sold a lot of timing belts and idlers for that engine in the day. I bought a 96 Z34 brand new, and while it was a snappy fun car I was always worried about the timing belt. I kept it 3 years and traded it in on a new silverado.

    • @michaelmike11
      @michaelmike11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not true. I’ve got a 91. It’s a great engine and is easy to work on when needed.

  • @erinfreize4717
    @erinfreize4717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My buddy K Dogg had a lovely dark green one. He was a character, and his car way always immaculate. God I miss the nineties

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      K Dogg, what a title.

  • @firstnamelastname6171
    @firstnamelastname6171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That instrument cluster sure reminds me of the Pontiac Transport dustbuster minivan.

    • @paulparoma
      @paulparoma 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of the switches, their shape and placement are very logical, except for the A/C controls. I think Pontiac may have gotten the idea from the Citroen CX.

  • @randolfo1265
    @randolfo1265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those vertically narrow headlights were ahead of their time and help to make this model ten times nicer than the base model!
    I have not seen one of these in a long time, this must be the nicest example surviving anywhere. Wow . . .

  • @quad5186
    @quad5186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Get on your pole and spin !” 😂
    I could hear the Pontiac commercials for that - yikes I’m old !!!

  • @jesuschristpose896
    @jesuschristpose896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Biggest mistake GM ever made was getting rid of Pontiac

    • @MrDvsuton
      @MrDvsuton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wasn’t GM that got rid of Pontiac. A bunch of import loving politicians killed Pontiac

    • @jesuschristpose896
      @jesuschristpose896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrDvsuton there was nothing political about that decision, GM mismanaged their money and had to make cuts, Pontiac was cutting into Chevy performance cars dollar's so GM cut Pontiac, try to get educated on a subject first before you comment, you will not look so stupied that way.

  • @diesel3187
    @diesel3187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a throwback. My first car was a 93 Grand Prix SE just like this one in red. It was loaded and I absolutely loved it. Thanks for this video!

  • @SS-wh4fs
    @SS-wh4fs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I could never tell if that car was coming or going .

  • @checksandbalences
    @checksandbalences 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    90s cars guys, it's hip again if you can find 'em. What's old is new again.

    • @henrystowe6217
      @henrystowe6217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have disintegrated

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henrystowe6217 not entirely they seem to have held up much better than 80s FWD unibody models, at least from my experience they seem to.

    • @henrystowe6217
      @henrystowe6217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigWheel. Yes, but the 80s models are 10 years older.

    • @checksandbalences
      @checksandbalences 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henrystowe6217 lol

  • @Mikeofindy
    @Mikeofindy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a freshman in high school when this 93 came out. I loved it and still do. My first car was a 1998 Pontiac grand am green in black like this. I loved that car

  • @chadnevels246
    @chadnevels246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Takes me back to my '92 Lumina Z34...

    • @verothacamaro
      @verothacamaro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always had a soft spot for the Z34, but never had a chance to drive any car with the 3.4. I’ve read that it was rather potent!

    • @jamesruiz4005
      @jamesruiz4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 3.4 camaro for 1993-1995 was anemic with 160hp

    • @verothacamaro
      @verothacamaro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamesruiz4005 the LQ1 was only used on FWD W bodies if I’m not mistaken

    • @chadnevels246
      @chadnevels246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@verothacamaro For a front wheel drive car, of it's size and weight (heavy car), it would hold it's own against a stock V6 Camaro. Now the Z34 Heartbeat edition with the 5 speed, that was a fun car. The Z34 just had that "stock car, Nascar" body and look to it straight off the lot vs the Pontiac. I occasionally miss my Z34, but I don't miss trying to keep front brakes on it. That was a challenge 20+ years ago.

    • @kuahmelallah
      @kuahmelallah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamesruiz4005 that's the pushrod version. These had the DOHC "twin dual cam" heads, rated at 210 horses, which could scoot by early 90s standards coming back from sleepy Malaise Era engines.

  • @tcib
    @tcib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bill, you are an absolute treasure. Your knowledge and commentary make this Canadian quite chipper.

  • @kippaseo8027
    @kippaseo8027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don't usually like all Cheap GM exterior plastics That seemed to cover every Pontiac offerings in the 1990s But I really think this is one of the few exceptions. The has gathered I did love the others its twin cousins The Buick Regal and all's mobio Cutlass Supreme. If you found one of these with the bulletproof 3800 V6 engine you had a pretty good If you had one of the other engines you basically had a typical rental car. However it didn't matter how many options or what the trim package was all 3 of these models were still plagued with cheap And poorly designed interiors. They really were great examples of the GM bean counters And the UAW having too much power. As much time and effort GM put in to the power train in the exterior of this car almost everything in the interior looked and felt like an after thought. I had a customer a few years ago who had retired from GM after 40 years. He actually worked in the factory that made the cutlass and the regal. When he told me that he was a "chief Foreman" Of quality control. He explained to me that it was his job to inspect the newly built cars as they rolled off the assembly line. So now and he told me that it was not uncommon for these brand new cars to roll off the line with mismatched parts. It was common for a Pontiac to roll off the assembly line with a Buick steering wheel Or Sometimes The color of the seats Didn't even match the interior color of the rest of the car. He laughed and told me that the only things he ever got Reprimanded for flagging too many cars ( Usually by the head of the UAW). It wasn't rear for him to Flag 47 out of 50 cars for Defects. GM however seemed to pay more attention to the Buick line Over the others Because the Buick competed with a much pickier demographic. The most common phrase used by almost every Factory supervisor was " Get him on the truck in let the dealers deal with them later ". He used to joke with me and tell me that GM was the reason why his wife always drove a maxima.

  • @macmclaurin2525
    @macmclaurin2525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My parents had one, and I was born in 93. I can confirm a toddler can infact escape the netting of the trunk and get into the cab. My older brother shoved me in once…

  • @waynemangan9925
    @waynemangan9925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was young, I thougtht these cars looked like the coolest coupe or sedan model on the road back then after they gained this nose, sans the Z-34/Euro Luminas. That cladding as usual weathered, warped, and peeled back pretty quick though.

    • @LynxStarAuto
      @LynxStarAuto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were cool looking, but didn't last.

  • @renegadeharley6454
    @renegadeharley6454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like he goes from talking about the car to "oh there's a woodpecker! oh look a killer bunny!" 😆

  • @jus22
    @jus22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I swear, after every vid, I'm searching the web for these vehicles like Im about to pick one up. lol.
    But YES. Bill's delivery and side note commentary of weather and random thoughts that spring up, is what makes this thing for me. I love this shit.

  • @ytfeverguy8367
    @ytfeverguy8367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    always like this version Grand Prix. My Uncle had one and I distinctly remember the steering wheel, the cloth buckets, the power and the black paint.

  • @kylechellino2579
    @kylechellino2579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My friend's 99 Grand Prix had the 3800 in his.

  • @scottwilliams2903
    @scottwilliams2903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really thoughtful of the designers to provide so many areas to store narcotics!

  • @tristanmoos9770
    @tristanmoos9770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the daily Naples Animal forecast brought to you by bill

  • @Bozar069
    @Bozar069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 1994 right out of highschool and loved it. I also had loads of problems with it and hated it in the end.

  • @joelyons3713
    @joelyons3713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Incredible survivor. I love it!!

  • @arthurdardalis
    @arthurdardalis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m in Europe, we never got this car of course, all I can say is that it’s drop dead gorgeous, would love one👍👍👍

  • @MrJayrock620
    @MrJayrock620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another cool/weird thing about those steering wheel controls is the volume knob turned when you adjusted the volume on the wheel

    • @jsciarri
      @jsciarri 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not on these models they didn't. The later larger designed Buick radios actually did this.

  • @mikeyveloster7615
    @mikeyveloster7615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those Wallace bros signatures will unquestionably raise the value of this Grand Prix, what a cool feature especially for a NASCAR fan. CrossCabriolet spotted at 34:30 only a matter of time before Bill finds one of those in Naples to review

  • @mLi75
    @mLi75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hello from Barbados 🇧🇧

    • @curiouscars9282
      @curiouscars9282  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hello from Florida!

    • @johna.4334
      @johna.4334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello from La-La Land!

    • @followedtodeath5850
      @followedtodeath5850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johna.4334 wheres La la land at?

    • @johna.4334
      @johna.4334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@followedtodeath5850
      Los Angeles, CA

  • @jesseccaparrella8627
    @jesseccaparrella8627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ve always been a pontiac fan, i loved my 1989 grand prix. Put a lot of miles on it and then gave to my son for his 1st car.

  • @phillanassa759
    @phillanassa759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very pretty car, I worked in the GM dealer on these when they were new. I never saw or worked on one in the wild that was this nice. Timing belts, tune ups, oil leaks, the DOHC 3400 24 valve motor was a dirt bag to work on. As you say, most of the plastic bits exploded or imploded in the wild between the hands of typical boisterous Americans. The plastic was brittle, the carpet cheap, fit and finish was so-so.
    This however is pretty car, and perfect for a weekend cruiser, but as an everyday ride, no, they didn't hold up too well if you didn't take impeccable care of them. With the addition of 3.8/3800, the driveline became bulletproof, more so than the 3.4 DOHC. Still again a very pretty car that I would like to have seen a 32 valve V-8 in but that was years away and not for these W-Bodies..
    The G-Bodies before it were far more hearty, and there are many of them on the road still today My wife had a '78 Grand Prix she paid 1 dollar for. A high school friends parents were getting rid of it in the early 90's and se got it. Lasted for years and was still running when we sold it, no rust. A V-8 car, ugly Pea soup Green exterior with an even uglier Green interior. Crushed green velvet bucket seats and a full console. Floor shift, 3 speed turbo 350 transmission, 301 4bbl, 2:73 rear gears, a malaise era menopausemobile.., but that car, and many just like it across 4 GM platforms, took a beating and survived. Many are around today, and are popular on the muscle car and resto-mod circuit. The W bodies (or GM-10 platform) didn't enjoy that same durable longevity, love, and overall heartiness of the previous generation G-Body.
    Still, all in all, if there was any W-Body I would have wanted to own, it would be the Grand Prix, and this year with it's 3400 DOHC as well as a plethora of of other options, is about the best looking and running of them all,.. at least until the 2000's platform change, when you could get a V-8 in the Bonneville and Grand Prix, along with the G-8 and GTO... which were the last gasp for Pontiac Division, I'm sad to say.
    Pontiac's always had flair and panache, and this immaculate example of the '93 grand Prix is no exception. Much more fun and exciting to experience than say the Lumina of Chevrolet or the Oldsmobile Intrigue (no I really would rather NOT have a Buick W-Body either, except maybe the Supercharged Regal GS..) This exact car with a 5 speed (which I've never seen, don't recall seeing a 3400 DOHC with the 5 speed) would have been Pontiac Driving Excitement as the advertisements used to proclaim.
    EDIT, looks like the Getrag 284 5 speed was an option on the LQ-1 3400 DOHC, and 93 was the last year.
    Thanks for bring us this survivor, Bill, a pleasure to look at and hear about the weird and wonderful, amazing cars you come across!

  • @dianeadkins-diorio1783
    @dianeadkins-diorio1783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rusty Wallace raced for Penske from the current team's inception in 1991 until his retirement after 2005; Penske ran Pontiacs from 1991-1993, then switched to Ford in 1994, switched from Ford to Dodge in 2003, and then finally returned to Ford in 2013...

  • @cakecard
    @cakecard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My all time favorite car, a 1990 Turbo Grand Prix!

  • @DougZbikowski
    @DougZbikowski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those buttons on the steering wheel were SO high-tech back in the 90's. Had a car like that---what I found is I would end up mashing them when I needed to lay on the horn :D
    Velvet seats were a symbol of luxury back then. If your car had those soft-touch velvet seats people knew you paid extra. Now fake leather is the thing.

    • @Sparky-ww5re
      @Sparky-ww5re ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure. Lacking airbags this car is unsafe by today's standards and could never again be replicated, I really like what Pontiac did with all those buttons on the steering wheel. I was only 4 yrs old in 1993 and remember very little, but if I were to have seen this at a dealership back then I would probably have cried and begged my parents nonstop that they need this car ;)

  • @gulfstream7235
    @gulfstream7235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's very rare that the tyres make the car...

  • @426baron
    @426baron ปีที่แล้ว

    Those controls on the side of the dashboard reminds me of a Citroën BX. Love all the crazy 90s buttons and tech everywhere.

  • @henrystowe6217
    @henrystowe6217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thats probably the fastest that thing has been driven. When this car was built, the speed limit was still 65 mph on rural interstates only. Kinda of a nostalgia buzz. I can feel the plastic switchgear falling apart in my hands

    • @jdtractorman7445
      @jdtractorman7445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It still is 65 mph on interstates where I live, lol.

    • @henrystowe6217
      @henrystowe6217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jdtractorman7445 what state is that? I feel sorry for you.

    • @Sparky-ww5re
      @Sparky-ww5re ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahhhh.... the 55 mph national speed limit from the carter administration which lasted until 1995 when it was repealed and given back to the states. I believe in the late 80s is when rural interstates was raised to 65.

  • @rickdavid6758
    @rickdavid6758 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No other orator but the great Bill could gas on about weather, animals, history cars etc...and make you laugh and sigh throughout the entire video. We must protect this man at all costs. We love us some Bill time!

  • @JimmyGAR1
    @JimmyGAR1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great review as always. We had a 1980, 1987, 1994, and 2004 Grand Prix. Three different platforms. The 2004 was supercharged. We loved them for the exact reasons you say. Affordable but loaded with cool gadgets and were different and more sexy than most other cars in its class. Especially domestic. They were common but you felt like you were just a bit different.

  • @bfuller5577
    @bfuller5577 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Early memory back in my child hood...like single digit ages my grandma had an earlier model versions so 87 or 88 or 89 blue coupe.

  • @murrynathan
    @murrynathan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I forgot the combination to my glovebox and I can’t get to the sunroof instruction manual or my narcotics!

  • @WestleyWolf
    @WestleyWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandpa had the 5-Speed Manual Transmission in a 92. looks just like how he had his except for the tires, Different regular steering wheel cluster and no spoiler on the back, could be that he had the SE but other than that still a great car for the time!

  • @johnmills2134
    @johnmills2134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    " Even if it's made in Canada. " Classic, you've got budding humidity, we've got snow in the works tonight, pick your poison, my friend. ... I just put the summers on this past weekend.

  • @dessean1
    @dessean1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just recently discovered this page & I really enjoy listening to the fellow who is hosting it. The host is very knowledgeable in all things automotive & I truly enjoy when he finds & reviews older vehicles. I also really enjoy listening to the host "go off subject' periodically to deal with an issue that may be presently interfering with his broadcast, such as the woodpecker that seems to drive him insane & the visiting goats who have made cameo appearances. LOL Informative & entertaining. :)

  • @firstnamelastname6171
    @firstnamelastname6171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You think the weather sucks down there? Try the Michigan/Ohio/Indiana border... IT'S SNOWING!

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same in Wisconsin

  • @makaveli087
    @makaveli087 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...OK...I'm gonna block out trying to wrap my head around the Goats Story & continue watching the video....LOL

  • @fordmuscleluis9710
    @fordmuscleluis9710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing paint job on this 11K mile car

  • @boldone3517
    @boldone3517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bill, I have listened and watched your videos going back to where you were behind the entrance into the shop of your store, and have enjoyed your knowledge and sense of auto history. I guess what disappoints me is the endless disdain you have for the weather of southwest Florida and the wildlife on your friends property. I live in Michigan, in the Village of Beverly Hills. I'll take Florida in the winter any day, over whether my pipes are going to freeze up when it gets super cold, and it does that days on end. Maybe frankly, south Florida is not where you should be living. I dated a lady in 1993 that bought the high end model of this Gran Prix, with a hopped up engine, the 3.4 v six turbo I believe, it was a very fun car. Keep up the great work. Lance

  • @mikek2712
    @mikek2712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "It's a nice place for a pack a cigarettes as a lot of guys who owned these were NASCAR types"... Winstons, of course.

  • @michaelsteen5896
    @michaelsteen5896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to always like these as a wee lad in the early 90’s.

  • @superx9619
    @superx9619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Man I felt so old near the end of the video he said you can take this to car shows.

    • @90scarguy
      @90scarguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I started collecting cars from the 90s when I worked as a car salesman. We would get these at $500.00 and I’d buy them. Now people tell me to take some of mine to shows. I feel like an old man.

  • @waynemangan9925
    @waynemangan9925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I also had an aunt who bought this car in metallic blue and it was back at the dealer constantly for warranty repairs. I'm pretty sure she'd had the dealer replace the trans as well. Same aunt unfortunately went on to make the same mistake again with the Alero.

  • @bratwurst886
    @bratwurst886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Finally a good video about this car

  • @firstnamelastname-fo4fq
    @firstnamelastname-fo4fq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude. Its a quiet classic. Absolutely beautiful

  • @danejohnson8361
    @danejohnson8361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a 2000 Pontiac Bonneville ssei. I wish there was cosmetic aftermarket support like there is for the GP. Granted mine has the 3.8 sc v6 and zzperformance makes loads of go fast parts. So mine the opposite. It looks slow but she scoots for a 3750 pound sedan

    • @BigWheel.
      @BigWheel. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have an SE (03) very comfortable and good looking car, I like the styling much better than the GPs of the same era.

    • @lexusformetwo7097
      @lexusformetwo7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We had the same car - it was definitely not the same quality as the Acura we traded in - we drove it a couple years - the ssei was the only one I liked, it just felt like it was not ageing well and we went back to an Acura

  • @slargo83
    @slargo83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20 years ago I had a 1989 Cutlass Supreme International Series with a 5-Speed and those same bucket seats in the back. I wish I never got rid of it. Such a unique car and I've never seen another one, then or now 😥

  • @corvettemode1556
    @corvettemode1556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I haven’t been this early since.....ah screw it, I’m just early

    • @curiouscars9282
      @curiouscars9282  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That makes two of us - haven't had one up this early in months.

  • @BigSi-xw6wv
    @BigSi-xw6wv ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased a 93 Bonneville in 2015 i test drove it before i knew the year it drove like a dream at 90 miles an hour. I didn't have one problem for 6 months until the transmission went but i loved that car

  • @killerb4202
    @killerb4202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If they would have made that Rwd and put the LT1 in it out of the Corvette that thing would have been AMAZING!!

    • @billmelcher625
      @billmelcher625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a Roadmaster sedan you might be interested in

    • @vinobeans9542
      @vinobeans9542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billmelcher625 would love see a pictures of that!

    • @strategicboss9501
      @strategicboss9501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's never too late if I had one of these I'd swap it with the ls out of the ss impala already fwd I'm sure it could be done too

    • @TWOxTONE_773
      @TWOxTONE_773 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean like the trans am?

    • @killerb4202
      @killerb4202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TWOxTONE_773 yeah just like the TA except with a usable back seat and trunk lol

  • @ronmccullock1407
    @ronmccullock1407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Welcome back Bill; sorry the weather is crap, at least the goats are leaving you alone. Wow! What a fantastic car and review.

  • @roninkraut6873
    @roninkraut6873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank God! I needed a reprieve from the nutty world we live in

  • @juliusbalagasay
    @juliusbalagasay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How you casually just said "you can't fit a baby in there, unless it's really small" is the best

  • @walterray1203
    @walterray1203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello bill Beautiful car, my grandparents had a 1995 green grand prix sedan version. Love these gm10 platforms,thanks 4 tha review.