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Interesting that your references other than the tire sellers talk about the penny test as being an accurate measure and recommend replacing the tires at 2/32". The TireRack tests are the only thing I can find that recommend 4/32". I was told today that I need to immediatly replace tires with 3/32" of tread. Goodyear and Michelin officially recommend 2/32". I have read and reread and watched the TireRack stopping tests. Basically the depth and wet stopping power decreases from the time you start driving on them. So, how safe does one have to be, especially if not driving in the rain all the time. Heck, to be real safe replace those $300 tires rather than rotating them every 5k miles. Then you'd be real safe. There is a reason that tire manufacturers mold in the wear bars. There is a reason that 2/32" is the legal limit and recommended by the tire manufacturers. The manufacturers are exposed to the most liablilty, so I can't imagine they wouldn't be conservative and have based their recommendations on some testing also. As far as I can tell the 3/32" or 4/32" depth "danger points" are just a method to increase the tire dealers' revenue stream. Much like the oil changing shops recommending 3,000 between oil changes with the oils we have these days.
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The law is 1.6mm not 3mm for a good reason. Yes, the wet performance is probably 1-3 m longer braking distance but the change is so gradual, owner adjust they way the brake in wet . IN dry condition, 2mm tread is better than 8mm tread. 4mm vs 2 mm for winter tires that often 8mm tread when new means 30% of the usable live is wasted for stupid marketing.
It's not a hard rule. 2/32 is the ultimate minimum. But as per the video as you go lower than 4/32 it starts to get less safe. This is especially true when you have to drive in harsh conditions like heavy rain or snow and ice. Much less grip in those conditions as the video shows. It's up to you how low you want to go. Just drive knowing you have less and less grip in those conditions. A tire with 4/32 left will behave much better than one with 2/32 in those conditions.
@@FrakkingCreations then why not change at 5/32 or even 6/32? a tire with 10/32 thread and 60,000 mile warranty can go 15000 mile less if it changes the tire at 4/32 VS 2/32 this the old change the oil every 3000 mile trick the oil company use so if you want to be honest tell the truth about 2/32 and recommend 4/32 for more safety, even that penny test is 2/32,so does the line between the thread they are also at 2/32 you act more like used car sales man, than actual being informative, by tryin to scare an uninformed person about tire
Thanks for the feedback. I didn't realize I was scaring anyone. I actually looked into it to see what the recommendations are and why. And it is true that in less ideal situations you really do have less grip. I think what I wanted to get across is that to be safer those are the recommended numbers but it really is up to the individual to determine based on their driving conditions, driving style and situations. It's different for everyone.
@@FrakkingCreations I have Nokian Rotiiva Ht on my 2017 Cadillac XT5 & Nokian WR G4 SUV on my son's 2015 Ford Edge ....As good or better than Michelins
This is the most comprehensive video I have come across on tire maintenance. EXCELLENT VIDEO 👍🏾
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Interesting that your references other than the tire sellers talk about the penny test as being an accurate measure and recommend replacing the tires at 2/32". The TireRack tests are the only thing I can find that recommend 4/32". I was told today that I need to immediatly replace tires with 3/32" of tread. Goodyear and Michelin officially recommend 2/32". I have read and reread and watched the TireRack stopping tests. Basically the depth and wet stopping power decreases from the time you start driving on them. So, how safe does one have to be, especially if not driving in the rain all the time. Heck, to be real safe replace those $300 tires rather than rotating them every 5k miles. Then you'd be real safe. There is a reason that tire manufacturers mold in the wear bars. There is a reason that 2/32" is the legal limit and recommended by the tire manufacturers. The manufacturers are exposed to the most liablilty, so I can't imagine they wouldn't be conservative and have based their recommendations on some testing also. As far as I can tell the 3/32" or 4/32" depth "danger points" are just a method to increase the tire dealers' revenue stream. Much like the oil changing shops recommending 3,000 between oil changes with the oils we have these days.
Thank you for such informative video 👍
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Thanks for making this video bc I’m a new driver and I have no absolute knowledge about what’s sign should I look to replace tires (I’ll subscribe)
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The law is 1.6mm not 3mm for a good reason. Yes, the wet performance is probably 1-3 m longer braking distance but the change is so gradual, owner adjust they way the brake in wet . IN dry condition, 2mm tread is better than 8mm tread. 4mm vs 2 mm for winter tires that often 8mm tread when new means 30% of the usable live is wasted for stupid marketing.
there is a date stamp on the sidewall of all tyres if you can work it out !!
Yes. I mention this in the video.
why the fuck this guy only has 10k subs is beyond me
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it used to be 2/32 of thread,now it is 4/32?
if it is spring, I still go with 2/32
It's not a hard rule. 2/32 is the ultimate minimum. But as per the video as you go lower than 4/32 it starts to get less safe. This is especially true when you have to drive in harsh conditions like heavy rain or snow and ice. Much less grip in those conditions as the video shows. It's up to you how low you want to go. Just drive knowing you have less and less grip in those conditions. A tire with 4/32 left will behave much better than one with 2/32 in those conditions.
@@FrakkingCreations
then why not change at 5/32 or even 6/32?
a tire with 10/32 thread and 60,000 mile warranty can go 15000 mile less if it changes the tire at 4/32 VS 2/32
this the old change the oil every 3000 mile trick the oil company use
so if you want to be honest tell the truth about 2/32 and recommend 4/32
for more safety, even that penny test is 2/32,so does the line between the thread they are also at 2/32
you act more like used car sales man, than actual being informative, by tryin to scare an uninformed person about tire
Thanks for the feedback.
I didn't realize I was scaring anyone. I actually looked into it to see what the recommendations are and why. And it is true that in less ideal situations you really do have less grip. I think what I wanted to get across is that to be safer those are the recommended numbers but it really is up to the individual to determine based on their driving conditions, driving style and situations. It's different for everyone.
I’ve bought 4 sets of tires for my 22 tesla so age aint my issue lol
Somebody's definitely enjoying their Tesla.
16 new tires? That’s crazy!
I buy Nokian tires exclusively
Which models have you used and would recommend from Nokian?
@@FrakkingCreations I have Nokian Rotiiva Ht on my 2017 Cadillac XT5 & Nokian WR G4 SUV on my son's 2015 Ford Edge ....As good or better than Michelins
Can't see half the examples in the video bc of the stupid captions
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