When I watch videos, I will sometimes pause after each sentence and say it outloud, trying to imitate the native speaker as much as possible. It's almost like practicing a music instrument. It's not enough to simply play the notes on the page, but you also have to get the pitch, articulation and dynamics correct as well. Eventually after a while, you no longer need to memorize the tones, etc. It just "sounds right" when you speak.
being a graduate in English philology (and also an amateur musician), I can say that imitating sounds of a language you're going to speak really helps, but many people find it ridiculous and confusing. In my university, we've even had an exercise to speak our native language (Russian) with English accent. This really was funny but helped a lot, though almost all of my groupmates found it disgusting and embarrassing.
@@KnightOfEternity13i think you have to see it as a separate practice. Theres listening practice and then theres pronunciation where you don’t need to necessarily understand everything. This could help a lot with cognitive load so you don’t feel frustrated by multitasking. But still your choice obviously, this us just one way.
You really have a point..bc from my own experience I learnt English for 2 years but still couldn't understand when people talk in English..Coincidentally, I saw a famous show called WWE..I used to just watch without paying attetion..I literally didn't understand a single thing..but with repetition and opening my ears I learnt English and I achieved an advanced level without paying either money of a great effort..
Thanks! Very similar to what I am working on with my students who are learning English - listen to videos of real speaking, learn about "thought groups" (where/how English-speakers tend to pause within a sentence), imitate rhythm and intonation.
There is a TH-cam channel that I use exactly for that. It's called Mandarin Corner and there are lots of interviews with people in the streets and stuff like that. (dunno if I should say this here though since she might be your competition! 😅)
I'm not studying Chinese at the moment, but the overall tip of the video is spot-on. In order to sound like natives, you must imitate them and exagerating. When I was a begginer in Arabic I would listen to Arabic-language radio constantly, as if it were music, and it helped be a lot to "normalize" the language sounds to my brain and internalize the way they speak.
I think you're right that actors in movies don't sound as natural as the "real speech", but like listening news it could be a first step in learning, because they speak more clear than those in reality shows and it's easier to understand them.
Thankyou for this video. I appreciate the tips and resources. It's interesting you mentioned that shows and movies tend to sound less authentic than normal daily dialogue. The tip to watch reality shows, talk shows, etc. is awesome! I'm also interested in checking out those mini podcasts you mentioned. I'm glad I found your channel!
Well, I have been following your videos for a while, and I like them very much, so after this one I decided to subscribe to your channel...Thank you all your efforts you put in these vids and thank you for the good and interesting contents and wish you to keep up for us. Greetings from Hungary ❤️ A NEW SUBSCRIBER IS HERE 😊
My current go-to for listening to regular people speak Mandarin is Street Dance China. They seem to speak a little slower than usual as well, perhaps because they are all people from different parts of the world/with different accents. I can almost pretend to understand it fully XD
It can be annoying because laptops / phones can really vary how high they go so when someone inevitably pops in and says "oh, just turn up your volume" for these situations that doesn't necessarily work. I happened to be okay with headphones but they were at max
他站在门口。 他在门口站着。 I think that the above two sentences mean the same thing. But, for the sake of rhythm, I think that 着 would be added in the second, but not the first sentence. For single-syllable words, I think that another syllable is sometimes added, for the sake of rhythm. Beyond this attempt to make a rule, it's probably impossible to make rules about good rhythm.
Can you recommend any podcasts on 小宇宙? I just downloaded it but there are so many choices! Don't know where to start! You could probably do an entire video on this APP🤣
I wish someone would inform duolingo. The worst part of the app is that the audio is broken up by the individual words instead of full sentences. It makes sentences I would otherwise understand unintelligible.
❤Thank you for this shuoshuo I just realized I've been going about the imitation technique incorrectly I Would watch dramas or interviews with some of my favorite Chinese actors & try to find one with a deepness in there voice similar to mines for example nie yuan is someone I try to copy his way of speaking but now I know to watch more reality/variety shows so thanks again shuo this really helped a lot & it gives me more motivation as well as something different to add to my routine😃 #shuosavesthedayonceagain❤
@@ShuoshuoChinese 😄I'm glad you like it! I wouldn't have said it if it wasn't true & feel free to steal it if you ever wanna use it😆 I'll just come up with a different hashtag that'll be even better than that one #Thehashtaggerofhashtagging
Just to nitpick this (since I know there are a lot of English learners in here too!) it's pro-nun-see-AY-shun, with one 's' sound in the middle. The first vowel is an 'o' ('pro') but because it's unstressed it's common to use a schwa, which makes it closer to pruh-nun-see-AY-shun. It's not 'pre', which would make it sound like a different word - there's no confusion with another word in this case, but for e.g. proscribe/prescribe the meaning changes if you use the wrong sound. That's my number one tip for natural-sounding English - learn the schwa (the most common vowel sound in the language!) and get used to using it in unstressed syllables. It doesn't work ~everywhere~, but like Shuo's saying here, you'll pick up the patterns by listening and imitating!
Is my hearing wrong, or are you pronouncing "et cetera" as "eksetera"? It's kind of a big deal, at least for a certain type of English-speakers. Don't mean to offend, it's just a type of mistake that could eclipse all your smartness and fluency. Thank you for all your work, you are really cool!
I tried to listen to the 小宇宙 podcast and It sounded interesting, but I couldn't believe how much slang, nuanced expressions, and obscure references there were. My Chinese will never be good enough to understand this. 😢
Music is never sung the way we speak. Think of your native language, how often is music the same in rhythm to normal language? Words are truncated or elongated or accented wrong to fit wth the music.
You speak better English than I do. Please Google the pronunciation of the word pronunciation. This is a common mistake. Pronounce it the way it is spelt- pro- nun- citation.
This is also the secret of how to speak phony chinese, I do it all the times, you just mix any kind of gibberish into your speaking and keep a chinese flow, it sounds perfectly right and amazing to make your chinese teammates angry.
I doubt most Chinese speak the way they spoke before. If you imitate a talk show personality you will become a talk show personality. You might not have your own talk show but you will talk like one of those people.
Greetings Shuo! Of course I appreciate you as a teacher. And i do want to learn ... Thank you for dressing so nicely for this video. 😍 You have such beautiful sexy shoulders, collar bones, ... gorgeous skin ... I can feel your warmth ❤ ..ah ok i"m not distracted too much. 🙏 I will definitely learn better, being more motivated, by you. I'm sure my increased attention will increase my learning rate.
When I watch videos, I will sometimes pause after each sentence and say it outloud, trying to imitate the native speaker as much as possible. It's almost like practicing a music instrument. It's not enough to simply play the notes on the page, but you also have to get the pitch, articulation and dynamics correct as well. Eventually after a while, you no longer need to memorize the tones, etc. It just "sounds right" when you speak.
being a graduate in English philology (and also an amateur musician), I can say that imitating sounds of a language you're going to speak really helps, but many people find it ridiculous and confusing. In my university, we've even had an exercise to speak our native language (Russian) with English accent. This really was funny but helped a lot, though almost all of my groupmates found it disgusting and embarrassing.
@@TheExterminatrix True, I hate shadowing. It just prevents me from concentrating on listening.
@@KnightOfEternity13i think you have to see it as a separate practice. Theres listening practice and then theres pronunciation where you don’t need to necessarily understand everything. This could help a lot with cognitive load so you don’t feel frustrated by multitasking. But still your choice obviously, this us just one way.
chorusing and shadowing
You speaking Chinese with the wrong tones is scaringly accurate, really impressive 🤣
Hahahaha
it's a big proof that shes a good teacher and has a big experience
Your basic thesis is valid for any language but rarely, if ever, even mentioned when teaching a language to non-native speakers. Excellent video.
You really have a point..bc from my own experience I learnt English for 2 years but still couldn't understand when people talk in English..Coincidentally, I saw a famous show called WWE..I used to just watch without paying attetion..I literally didn't understand a single thing..but with repetition and opening my ears I learnt English and I achieved an advanced level without paying either money of a great effort..
I'm proud of you 👍👏
More videos of Lily please! I want to know her progress!😆
She actually speaks perfect Chinese now, those are some old videos of her🤣
Thanks! Very similar to what I am working on with my students who are learning English - listen to videos of real speaking, learn about "thought groups" (where/how English-speakers tend to pause within a sentence), imitate rhythm and intonation.
And...one of your links under the video has Jackson ☺
There is a TH-cam channel that I use exactly for that. It's called Mandarin Corner and there are lots of interviews with people in the streets and stuff like that. (dunno if I should say this here though since she might be your competition! 😅)
Haha, it’s ok! I love her videos too!
Your Thai is so on point! 🤣
I'm not studying Chinese at the moment, but the overall tip of the video is spot-on. In order to sound like natives, you must imitate them and exagerating. When I was a begginer in Arabic I would listen to Arabic-language radio constantly, as if it were music, and it helped be a lot to "normalize" the language sounds to my brain and internalize the way they speak.
The way you speak Thai ending your sentence with “wa” really impressed me. 😂
wow, Your Thai language sounds so natural.😱
I think you're right that actors in movies don't sound as natural as the "real speech", but like listening news it could be a first step in learning, because they speak more clear than those in reality shows and it's easier to understand them.
This is what I did when learning German, decades ago. When I went on Praktikum, my host family said I spoke like on the radio.
Thank you. It’s a nice advice, especially do not imitate actor’s the way of speaking in the movies 🎥
In these recent videos, the volume was a bit low. I had to download and played with VLC with 200% of volume.
Thank you so much, you are help me improve my chinese skills in a fun soft way. Such a great job!!❤
These are very useful tips, for any language!
你很棒呀！中文，英文，泰文 都说得很好！我是泰国人，我已经学习中文两年了。很难很难。😊 但是我还喜欢学中文，有时候说错或发音不对，我中国朋友他们一直帮助我学中文，纠正我的发音也给我学习中文的好建议。 我很开心可以成为他们一个泰国朋友，帮助他们学泰语。😂 555 中泰交流。🇹🇭🇨🇳
que trabalho primoroso! sempre fico impressionado
This is really informative. I never seen such a great video on speaking a language before.
您解释的是对的! 👍
语调很重要
Thankyou for this video. I appreciate the tips and resources. It's interesting you mentioned that shows and movies tend to sound less authentic than normal daily dialogue. The tip to watch reality shows, talk shows, etc. is awesome! I'm also interested in checking out those mini podcasts you mentioned. I'm glad I found your channel!
Thank you for the coaching in this video.
Well, I have been following your videos for a while, and I like them very much, so after this one I decided to subscribe to your channel...Thank you all your efforts you put in these vids and thank you for the good and interesting contents and wish you to keep up for us. Greetings from Hungary ❤️ A NEW SUBSCRIBER IS HERE 😊
My current go-to for listening to regular people speak Mandarin is Street Dance China. They seem to speak a little slower than usual as well, perhaps because they are all people from different parts of the world/with different accents. I can almost pretend to understand it fully XD
ภาษาไทยดีมากก
A few weeks ago, I installed a Chinese radio application which helped me enormously, but is it really good?
I can't even sound natural in my own native English, lol. The chance of me sounding anything close to native in Mandarin is basically zero.
the volume is a bit low in this video. No worries, I can turn up my speakers, just wanted you to know in case there was an issue with your recording.
Thank you for letting me know!
@@ShuoshuoChinese happy to help, 老师
It can be annoying because laptops / phones can really vary how high they go so when someone inevitably pops in and says "oh, just turn up your volume" for these situations that doesn't necessarily work. I happened to be okay with headphones but they were at max
🤗Thank you!!🌸🌼
他站在门口。
他在门口站着。
I think that the above two sentences mean the same thing.
But, for the sake of rhythm, I think that 着 would be added in the second, but not the first sentence.
For single-syllable words, I think that another syllable is sometimes added, for the sake of rhythm.
Beyond this attempt to make a rule, it's probably impossible to make rules about good rhythm.
Thanks for the great video!
Can you recommend any podcasts on 小宇宙? I just downloaded it but there are so many choices! Don't know where to start! You could probably do an entire video on this APP🤣
That’s a good idea, I’ll do more research:)
I wish someone would inform duolingo. The worst part of the app is that the audio is broken up by the individual words instead of full sentences. It makes sentences I would otherwise understand unintelligible.
this why i rather learn from the news then that i perfer sounding like a robot instead reality and talk shows can be painful to look through
❤Thank you for this shuoshuo I just realized I've been going about the imitation technique incorrectly I Would watch dramas or interviews with some of my favorite Chinese actors & try to find one with a deepness in there voice similar to mines for example nie yuan is someone I try to copy his way of speaking but now I know to watch more reality/variety shows so thanks again shuo this really helped a lot & it gives me more motivation as well as something different to add to my routine😃 #shuosavesthedayonceagain❤
Lol I love this hashtag!
@@ShuoshuoChinese 😄I'm glad you like it! I wouldn't have said it if it wasn't true & feel free to steal it if you ever wanna use it😆 I'll just come up with a different hashtag that'll be even better than that one #Thehashtaggerofhashtagging
我是中文翻译 我看你的视频只是因为我喜欢你。你是漂亮 女
Good meam
Thank you ! I miss watching 谢谢你来了 on cctv, it was great practicing technique. Any idea of where I can find it online while being abroad?
2:07 疼了
That's exactly what I always say to my students! In European languages we call it "mimesis".
The way you learn to speak as a native is by learning by listening
Great ❤, ai ni
That's good pls I really need the link
Is it good to learn in games? I play Genshin and I’m trying to learn my tones there^ thank you!
I didn't understood how to download the app 小宇宙😢
Can you recommend a good show for a guy trying to learn
Come to teach mandarin in México.
Hello! Thanks for the ideas. But, what if my Chinese level is still very low and I won't understand what they are saying at talk shows:(, any advice?
Hi
为什么突然就没有声音呢？
我在手机上可以听到
老师， 以前你提供中文说话组人课， 但是现在看起来没有。。。以后打算再有吗？
现在还有呀，但是第十二学期已经开始了。你可以加我微信预定一个位置哦：shuoshuochinese是我的微信号
Just so you know, "pronunciation" isn't pronounced "pronounce-ciation", it is said "prenunce-ciation" . Nunce not nounce
This is also my pet peeve but I think that so many native speakers say "pronounciation" now that it's probably a valid alternative pronunciation.
Depending where you are. English has accents as well.
Just to nitpick this (since I know there are a lot of English learners in here too!) it's pro-nun-see-AY-shun, with one 's' sound in the middle. The first vowel is an 'o' ('pro') but because it's unstressed it's common to use a schwa, which makes it closer to pruh-nun-see-AY-shun. It's not 'pre', which would make it sound like a different word - there's no confusion with another word in this case, but for e.g. proscribe/prescribe the meaning changes if you use the wrong sound.
That's my number one tip for natural-sounding English - learn the schwa (the most common vowel sound in the language!) and get used to using it in unstressed syllables. It doesn't work ~everywhere~, but like Shuo's saying here, you'll pick up the patterns by listening and imitating!
声音有点小😅
Can we use 和 to connect two sentences ?!!
For example?
This video has its sound a bit low
Is my hearing wrong, or are you pronouncing "et cetera" as "eksetera"? It's kind of a big deal, at least for a certain type of English-speakers. Don't mean to offend, it's just a type of mistake that could eclipse all your smartness and fluency. Thank you for all your work, you are really cool!
I tried to listen to the 小宇宙 podcast and It sounded interesting, but I couldn't believe how much slang, nuanced expressions, and obscure references there were. My Chinese will never be good enough to understand this. 😢
How about Chinese music? Is it recommended or the way they sing it are also standardized mandarin?
Music is never sung the way we speak. Think of your native language, how often is music the same in rhythm to normal language? Words are truncated or elongated or accented wrong to fit wth the music.
ทำไมพูดไทยได้ด้วยครับ
When it comes to Chinese dramas, I get the feeling that some actors got dubbed and their Chinese sounds extremely unnatural.
You speak better English than I do. Please Google the pronunciation of the word pronunciation. This is a common mistake. Pronounce it the way it is spelt- pro- nun- citation.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
This is also the secret of how to speak phony chinese, I do it all the times, you just mix any kind of gibberish into your speaking and keep a chinese flow, it sounds perfectly right and amazing to make your chinese teammates angry.
I doubt most Chinese speak the way they spoke before. If you imitate a talk show personality you will become a talk show personality. You might not have your own talk show but you will talk like one of those people.
哦你話廣東話唔係中文喺度犯宇宙國安法
Greetings Shuo!
Of course I appreciate you as a teacher. And i do want to learn ...
Thank you for dressing so nicely for this video. 😍 You have such beautiful sexy shoulders, collar bones, ... gorgeous skin ... I can feel your warmth ❤ ..ah ok i"m not distracted too much. 🙏
I will definitely learn better, being more motivated, by you. I'm sure my increased attention will increase my learning rate.
so right.
登陆不了小宇宙app😔
咦，为什么呀
@@ShuoshuoChinese 不知道，我输入电话号码，然后按"发代码"，它发完了，但是我没收到😢