Frank: “Of course Cinderace and Meowscarada are busted. Libero and Protean are SO good.” Also Frank: *[Doesn’t give Greninja Protean]* *[Gives Greninja Battle Bond instead, which doesn’t work for 1v1 format]*
It honestly sucks that he kinda fucked up a lot of pokemon and that the AI couldn't use set up moves well. Kinda... ruins the ranking when pokemon don't function as intended
I love listening to Patterz do the same thing I did, which is totally forget that Fluttermane was the highest ranked Fairy and keep expecting Zacian to be in the top 5
ice has a lot of legends, a lot of strong 1 stages like jynx/lapras/cryogonal and very few early route weak unevolved forms. it's one of the strongest types per average bst so yeah, not exactly suprising same reason why water was so low despite being a good type per matchups. it has a lot of trash mons
Ice has long been known as an amazing offensive typing it's just not good defensively, which doesn't really matter since most of these 1v1's were over by the first attack. That's why when tera came out, pokemon, like regieleki, got a huge buff with tera ice tera blast
@@theeggoverlord3789 Yes! She's been my favorite Pokémon ever since gen 5 came out because I'm a choir kid who loves singing and used to so ballet (and loved that too but had to stop due to money issues) so she just ticked all of the boxes for me lol. I even dressed up as her for Halloween once complete with chalking my hair green...it didn't really _WORK_ mind you because I had long red hair back then (I mean...my hair is still red just not as long lol) so it didn't really show up very well even with me using the entire thing of hair chalk but still!
2:27 I remember looking through the shorts on the Pokemon company a couple of months ago and I'll never forget what I saw. TPC made a short specifically dedicated to appreciating Chesnaught. They said, "Say something nice about Chesnaught, trainers." I hate to see my guy get rubbed through the dirt just because he's compared to a slick ninja and a furry.
@@aaronsanders4122 gen4 surely has the most powerful champion fight of all time, i guess maybe now paradise protection protocol could be considered harder, but it's close. Cause Cynthia actually had a real team, a lot of bulk and Chomp is a monster.
@@luigimanzelli3786turo and sada are only really difficult if you don't know what types they have (especially turo as none of the future paradox mons are steel) because their movesets are terrible as they just caught those pokemon
Physical Attackers have the advantage due to their generally higher move powers (120 on CC, Flare blitz, 100 on EQ) compared to the usually base 90 or lower moves for special attackers (Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Earth Power, etc).
Technically if he wasn't including dynamax or zmoves then eternamax and ultra necrozma shouldn't have been included in the ranking because both of those forms are locked behind those gimmicks (eternamax is a a souped up gmax form and dawn wings/dusk mane necrozma only becomes ultra necrozma through the use of activating the z-crystal Ultranecrozium Z)
Then mega’s shouldn’t be included either, anyone can use z-moves or dynamax, not every Pokémon can use megas or a completely new form/Pokémon in terms of ultra necrozma
I'm so happy with Lugia being above Ho-oh, and how well Sinnoh did despite power creep. That's actually a trend in Frank’s videos with Sinnoh doing really well and only falling off in like Sun and Moon and later.
I'm glad Palkia got so high, always preferred it to Dialga. Fun fact about Palkia, it has the same cry in the anime as the lizard that Obi Wan rides in Revenge of the Sith. haha
It wasn't really banned per say, it was completely unavailable. Only Farceus was usable in gen 4 before a glitch was discovered to EV train them, I think fullceus was banned not too long ago which is well after Mega Ray.
Mega Metagross unfortunately tried out the Tesla Cybertruck upgrade. He took a bath and things aren't looking good. And the doctors keep cutting their hands open on his new edges. :(
I don't know, this video sounded really biased for Megas. If Megas were included then so should have been Dynas and Teras as well, for balancing reason.
5:46 I legitimately believe that they should have kept Mega Evolution in the games and introduced 5-10 new ones every generation. Like just take out some of the least popular Pokemon and replace them with a Mega Evolution.
Naw but where the money? You can’t sell toys out of a damn ledian or that damn spider in gen 2. That’s why they gonna make mega cinderace and mega koraidon cause that money gonna be reeling
So.. if sunkurn is the worst grass type and palkia is the best water type, but sunkurn won 3/3 battles against palkia does that mean that Frank just proved that grass typing is superior over water (ignoring type advantage from grass against water).
That would actually probably lead to far more accurate results. while the top rankings might not change much, anything past the top 200 to 300 might change considerably. Strong Ai means their going to make the MOST of the sets/pokemon available to it. hopefully there's a sequel or someone else does it with improved ai. :>
Slaking being the absolute goat as always, holy moly. Obviously this doesn't relly reflect what would happen cause AI doesn't inherently have pokemon knowledge, thus not knowing what the opposing pokemon will click, basically making good defensive plays pretty much non-existent. I feel like Miraidon should lose against any sash pokemon with a priority move, which is a lot of mons, but probably not many were built like that (or even if build like that didn't execute properly). Super cool Concept tho, this stuff is really interesting.
Yes both Koraidon and Miraidon get a attack boost and spe.attack boost under sun and electric terrain ....doesnt their ability set up sun or electric terrain yeah they are broken
Z-moves have silly vibes and I will not accept any slander. I don't take them seriously and neither should anyone. That's why they're cool. Nothing beats Snorlax going apeshit feral in its Z-move. And Cinderace truly is the starter of all time, I love the silly rabbit :D
Any time i played sun and moon and battled with my friend, he would just sweep with decidueye no matter what team i brought and would click the Z move anytime there was any pokemon that actually is threatening. Mega evolution gives you a new pokemon with considerably different stats and abilities, meaning it can at least be fun despite being OP depending on the ones you use, and it also forces creativity since not every pokemon can do it. Z Moves are a button you can click to get an insane move that can trivialize anything that could prove challenging or threatening, and then everything goes back to normal. It's hard NOT to take it seriously when it's basically "press a button to win matchup" in my personal experience.
Patterz, you do realize that rampardos has one of the highest attack stats in the game? All it has to do just really just survive a hit or have a choice scarf
I watched this video when it came out and everytime who said Libero and Protean are so good, I just wanted to scream us Greninja is my favourite mon and I know it could have been so Higher if not for the wrong ability
I support kick-a-toxel day!
me too
Me three
I'm early hello Franklin
I dont because it's adorable
I catch anybody kicking a Toxel and I promise they won’t kick anything else ever again.
Can't wait to see how good the Greninja line does with its incredible protean ability.
dam how sad they gave it battle bond that doesn't even work in the formatting they are doing.
I know. Protean would be sooooo good against any Pokémon.😂😂😂
I can't wait to see how my favourite Pokémon did: Flabebe, Mega Pinsir and Mega Metagross!
Bro if cinderace got no.1 with libero (which is literally just protean), then greninja could've easily been no. 1 or 2 too
This is funny
Its so sad that Diancie did so bad. If only it had levitate.
Levitate Diancie is the new meta
I knoq
SLAKING only showed 1% of it's true power throughout 1,810,053 Battles 🗿
Frank: “Of course Cinderace and Meowscarada are busted. Libero and Protean are SO good.”
Also Frank: *[Doesn’t give Greninja Protean]*
*[Gives Greninja Battle Bond instead, which doesn’t work for 1v1 format]*
It honestly sucks that he kinda fucked up a lot of pokemon and that the AI couldn't use set up moves well. Kinda... ruins the ranking when pokemon don't function as intended
@@TopOfAllWorldsTbf wouldn’t have changed much. The best moms where set in stone.
I love listening to Patterz do the same thing I did, which is totally forget that Fluttermane was the highest ranked Fairy and keep expecting Zacian to be in the top 5
zacian got nerfed really hard between gens
“I mean, what other product can handle 10 million men?”
Probably my cheating ex
good lord
Damn!!!!!
Bro, are you ok?
@@VolticWind Yeah, thanks, man 👌
@@MorePatterrz did you get sponsered or smthg
ICE TYPE NUMBER 4 PROVING THE HATERS WRONG 15:41
ice has a lot of legends, a lot of strong 1 stages like jynx/lapras/cryogonal and very few early route weak unevolved forms. it's one of the strongest types per average bst so yeah, not exactly suprising
same reason why water was so low despite being a good type per matchups. it has a lot of trash mons
Ice has long been known as an amazing offensive typing it's just not good defensively, which doesn't really matter since most of these 1v1's were over by the first attack. That's why when tera came out, pokemon, like regieleki, got a huge buff with tera ice tera blast
The 1v1 format works to ice's strengths while minimizing its downsides.
27:38
Thats my girl.
So proud to be a Meloetta fan right now lol.
We love meloetta
@@theeggoverlord3789
Yes!
She's been my favorite Pokémon ever since gen 5 came out because I'm a choir kid who loves singing and used to so ballet (and loved that too but had to stop due to money issues) so she just ticked all of the boxes for me lol.
I even dressed up as her for Halloween once complete with chalking my hair green...it didn't really _WORK_ mind you because I had long red hair back then (I mean...my hair is still red just not as long lol) so it didn't really show up very well even with me using the entire thing of hair chalk but still!
My favorite mythical and top 5 pokemon. Meloetta best girl.
Meloetta was my counter pick for marshadow gen 7 girl put in work putting that adorable marshmallow in its place
"If we not taking the ones the mad scientist have created"
So, we also counting Mewtwo in that or not?
This would also likely exempt the Porygon lines, and depending on what we believe about the Pokedex, Iron Valiant. Rigged
@@Ultradragon16 yeah, forgot about them lol
I'm so glad he finally reacted to this video. I was waiting for this reaction for so long!
I love how Miraidon is just like:
I need sandwiches and I will beat 1128 Pokémon to get them
Eternamax Eternatus: *N O*
*M I N E*
2:27 I remember looking through the shorts on the Pokemon company a couple of months ago and I'll never forget what I saw. TPC made a short specifically dedicated to appreciating Chesnaught. They said, "Say something nice about Chesnaught, trainers." I hate to see my guy get rubbed through the dirt just because he's compared to a slick ninja and a furry.
Let's watch another video of Pat fangirling over Frank
I am genuinely shocked that Gen 4 is that powerful, only being beaten out by the 3 most recent Gens.
It has a lot of new evolutions and legendaries, leading to a very high fully evolved to unevolved ratio.
Arceus and Palkia, lol. Arceus and Palkia.
I still think to this day gen 4 was the hardest gen to beat so to me it makes sense
@@aaronsanders4122 gen4 surely has the most powerful champion fight of all time, i guess maybe now paradise protection protocol could be considered harder, but it's close. Cause Cynthia actually had a real team, a lot of bulk and Chomp is a monster.
@@luigimanzelli3786turo and sada are only really difficult if you don't know what types they have (especially turo as none of the future paradox mons are steel) because their movesets are terrible as they just caught those pokemon
23:58
Based Kricketune
Physical Attackers have the advantage due to their generally higher move powers (120 on CC, Flare blitz, 100 on EQ) compared to the usually base 90 or lower moves for special attackers (Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Earth Power, etc).
Spectrier being this low shocked me
Tfw you have no coverage
@@noivernblast3366 or when you spam curse
Unfortunately there’s plenty of dark type Pokémon
he gave it a bad moveset. so no, no shocking. even an empty slot would be better than curse on ghosts in 1v1
@@emkalinabro you can’t blame the move set which he said is copied off of smogon, it’s the ai spamming curse
Technically if he wasn't including dynamax or zmoves then eternamax and ultra necrozma shouldn't have been included in the ranking because both of those forms are locked behind those gimmicks (eternamax is a a souped up gmax form and dawn wings/dusk mane necrozma only becomes ultra necrozma through the use of activating the z-crystal Ultranecrozium Z)
Then mega’s shouldn’t be included either, anyone can use z-moves or dynamax, not every Pokémon can use megas or a completely new form/Pokémon in terms of ultra necrozma
@@Crxsseyed1 did you miss the part where he said he was leaving megas in because they're cool and based?
That makes the entire tierlist subjective so anything goes anyways :)@@christianleblanc240
@@christianleblanc240 and ultra necrozma ISNT cool?
@@Crxsseyed1 he objectively is, but the fact it takes two separate gimmicks to cause this creature is not cool. But I see your point
Rampardos has 165 attack. Slap a choice scarf on and it goes CRAZY
Add to that a 150 base power STAB move, and things in front of it just disappear.
@@XavierXFpoof, gone, thanos snapped
Y not choice band?
21:01 glad to see another raboot fan, knew there was a reason youre my favorite poketuber/reaction andy
God at #10 is crazy what a jobber that mf needs to stay in heaven
That's probably just one of his thousand arms. So we only see 1/1000th of his power.
I'm so happy with Lugia being above Ho-oh, and how well Sinnoh did despite power creep. That's actually a trend in Frank’s videos with Sinnoh doing really well and only falling off in like Sun and Moon and later.
10:44 we NEED MatPat to come out of retirement and break down the Frank Lore.
so really miraidon is the winner damn i knew i picked the right version like so cool as well xd
Violet gang rise up.
Miraidon is the definition of being the GOAT
koraidon cooler
We got the past versions tho
I'm glad Palkia got so high, always preferred it to Dialga.
Fun fact about Palkia, it has the same cry in the anime as the lizard that Obi Wan rides in Revenge of the Sith. haha
That lizards name is Boga 😊
I noticed this too 😂
@@dreadzilla_9548 Nice, glad others noticed too.
I always forget it's name.
It makes rewatching funny once u hear them both. haha
1. I would loved to see specific Z moves and Gigantamax pokemon considered
2. I feel like Patterrz would love totally accurate battle simulator
Mega-evolution was the best "gimmick" because it added what felt like a NEW evolution to pokemon. And that's awesome.
Pat watching Frank is peak content
I thought that he said that frank edits his videos “autisticly” instead of artisticly at 35:40
Cynthia casually using a perfect version of the Pokemon that ranked right below Eternatus
For clarity: 28:16
Miraidon?
@@inv_hana Not Eternamax Eternatus.
I would have specified that one.
I meant regular Eternatus.
@@SpoopyKrown oh yeah ur right
2:51 I’m with you. So glad that there are people brave enough to stand against this Quillidin hate.
As a massive Venusaur fan, I feel amazing!! Also, Pat, I too am I palkia fan so you are not alone 😂
MY BOI GETTING NUMBER 26. LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
“Mega Razaquaz”
-Patterz, 2024
The biggest shock for me was Onix being as high as it was
33:16
I would like to say that no one gives a shit that arceus was banned in gen 4 Ubers years before razaquaz
It wasn't really banned per say, it was completely unavailable.
Only Farceus was usable in gen 4 before a glitch was discovered to EV train them, I think fullceus was banned not too long ago which is well after Mega Ray.
I love rampardos surprised it made that high tho
Quilladin deserves every bit of slander 🤧
13:54 i guess a poison type with corrosion ability hit metagross on accident
Turns out... idk how to use Kricketune
Yep me getting palkia as a kid while everyone had dialga is peace to my childhood memories
I’ve been waiting for this video sense Frank put the first one out lmaoo
Frank: Entei is the strongest dog on this list
Pat: Zacian and Zamazenta?!
i love ai tournaments in stronghold crussader
27:14 maybe ramparados putting every thing in atk makes him quite bothersome if you can't 1-shot him
INTELEON’S NUMER 2 LETS GOOO MY FAV STARTER IS GOOD
Onix was so high because of its 160 defence and eviolite
There is something wrong with me. 10:33 came around, and I immediately thought, as a response to Pat's question, Your Mom.
35:40 when Patterrz says artistic the captions say autistic instead
1:30 Not excluding certain Paradox Pokémon, if you read the Dex entries
I’ve been waiting for you to react to this. 😅
I actually love Quilladin... 😭
Mega Metagross unfortunately tried out the Tesla Cybertruck upgrade. He took a bath and things aren't looking good. And the doctors keep cutting their hands open on his new edges. :(
“What could handle 10m men” my ex came to mind
2:44 he needs respect
I have been waiting for this
I love Patterz!
28:39 Palkia Gang We Stand
20:22 *Hides Toxel plushie behind me*
Shoutout to my BOI MIRAIDON for beating The legendaries and GOD that’s why I chose Violet
You don't take this seriously right? Because this is heavily rng manipulated
Mega RAZAKUAZ.... Dude just creating it's own names
That realization that Diance doesnt get Levitate made me laugh so hard. I know it was an honest mess up given so many simulations but it was so funny.
The start of this video reminds me of when i used to watch popularmmos' mob battles
My god are you trying to kill me with nostalgia? Lol. in seriousness though this is WAY too true.
14:28 My favorite Pokémon 🤩🤩😍😍🥰🥰
I don't know, this video sounded really biased for Megas. If Megas were included then so should have been Dynas and Teras as well, for balancing reason.
5:46 I legitimately believe that they should have kept Mega Evolution in the games and introduced 5-10 new ones every generation. Like just take out some of the least popular Pokemon and replace them with a Mega Evolution.
Naw but where the money? You can’t sell toys out of a damn ledian or that damn spider in gen 2. That’s why they gonna make mega cinderace and mega koraidon cause that money gonna be reeling
Meloetta is God tier, don't even rn 😂
You can punk ultra necrozma with a zorua from the trainer school saw this coming.
Pat wants to play the age old game of kick the kid with Toxel 🤣🤣
Mega Evolution has odorous vibes...absolutely rank.
gen 10 legendary types will be bug/dragon & fire/fairy calling it right now
So.. if sunkurn is the worst grass type and palkia is the best water type, but sunkurn won 3/3 battles against palkia does that mean that Frank just proved that grass typing is superior over water (ignoring type advantage from grass against water).
I think you should see if adef would let you react to his videos about what Pokemon can learn Fly, Surf, and Flash! Genuinely great videos.
OOOOOH. This is a Pokemon video.
Patters there’s more Kirby lore now go watch it please
mega evo is also the only gimmick besides z moves that are allowed in monotype which i mostly play
Koraidon and Miraidon are just Groudon and Kyogre on steroids
10:33 water. fight me.
Pronouncing 083 as un-hundred and eighty three made me choke
If we aren't taking the ones created by mad scientists then I think we might have to exclude Mewtwo and possibly ditto
6>38 with just a little bit of speed one could potentially stunlock opponents with bite or something
Idk if this is a dumb idea, but someone should simulate similar battle royals with radical red ai or some improved ai
That would actually probably lead to far more accurate results. while the top rankings might not change much, anything past the top 200 to 300 might change considerably. Strong Ai means their going to make the MOST of the sets/pokemon available to it. hopefully there's a sequel or someone else does it with improved ai. :>
Slaking being the absolute goat as always, holy moly.
Obviously this doesn't relly reflect what would happen cause AI doesn't inherently have pokemon knowledge, thus not knowing what the opposing pokemon will click, basically making good defensive plays pretty much non-existent. I feel like Miraidon should lose against any sash pokemon with a priority move, which is a lot of mons, but probably not many were built like that (or even if build like that didn't execute properly).
Super cool Concept tho, this stuff is really interesting.
Malicious Moonsault is goated and I will not stand for this Z-move slander.
Twinkle tackle
I still want to see the full list XD
Idk if you've played any souls games but there are some great ai battle videos for those games.
We need the hunger games to return, we will have the battle of the century
Yes both Koraidon and Miraidon get a attack boost and spe.attack boost under sun and electric terrain ....doesnt their ability set up sun or electric terrain yeah they are broken
Z-moves have silly vibes and I will not accept any slander. I don't take them seriously and neither should anyone. That's why they're cool. Nothing beats Snorlax going apeshit feral in its Z-move.
And Cinderace truly is the starter of all time, I love the silly rabbit :D
z moves are nice lorewise but a bad game mechanic
Probably. IDC though, I just like seeing insane things happen through the power of friendship and also stones.
Any time i played sun and moon and battled with my friend, he would just sweep with decidueye no matter what team i brought and would click the Z move anytime there was any pokemon that actually is threatening. Mega evolution gives you a new pokemon with considerably different stats and abilities, meaning it can at least be fun despite being OP depending on the ones you use, and it also forces creativity since not every pokemon can do it.
Z Moves are a button you can click to get an insane move that can trivialize anything that could prove challenging or threatening, and then everything goes back to normal. It's hard NOT to take it seriously when it's basically "press a button to win matchup" in my personal experience.
Mimikyu 104 lets go!
Are we punting toxel to the moon?
I am interested in how Meloetta did so good. Who did they beat and how?
my guess is mega Gengar. havent seen the original
I was way off XD
Patterz, you do realize that rampardos has one of the highest attack stats in the game? All it has to do just really just survive a hit or have a choice scarf
I hope that mega pinsir and metagross get better soon
We’ll never know how to say Eviolite. Personally, I use “Eviolite” but that’s just me
It's either "Eh-Vee-/Oh/-Light", or it's "/Eee/-Vaii'ohh-/Lee/-Tay", syllable emphasis with the slashes.
I watched this video when it came out and everytime who said Libero and Protean are so good, I just wanted to scream us Greninja is my favourite mon and I know it could have been so Higher if not for the wrong ability
If whimsicott was level one, it would have been at the top.
12:43 tf u mean Charmander 💀