Hi HotRod Hippie ! DW here from South Africa. I just wanted to say Thank you! Amazing video. And amazing work! Really appreciate. I just need to get some practice in.! Take it easy and please don't stop putting up videos!
I enjoyed it. As someone with an interest but no experience I would have liked to see you do both ways in one video; by hand and with power tools so I had a comparison. Thanks for this.
I made a hood blister today following your basic instructions. I used a saber saw rather than a hole saw, and I cut the chamfer in the clamping board by adjusting the saw to 45 degrees. I don’t have that post dolly, but I did run it on the English Wheel to clean it up. It wasn’t quite as nice as yours, but still very passable. Thanks for the video. Very helpful.
Glad you are making the techniques work for you. English wheel is a solid choice for smoothing. I demonstrated with the dolly because I felt it a little more accessible for those that don't have a wheel.
I’d really like to see more on hammer forming! Iv done it a few times and like to see more of an in-depth look into a more complicated part. I’d also be interested in seeing your process of planishing and metal finishing after a panel is welded. Keep up the good work!
Ratrodryan35 there will definitely be more Hammer forming videos coming down the line. And a metal finishing video is high on the list as well. Thanks for the input!
What I'd like to see is a Video on finishing a butt weld on aluminum. Seems everyone wants to rush this. I need a little time to see what really happens threw all the little steps, what can go wrong, and how to correct it. Thanks! JD
Noted. I need to do a series on metal finishing. I’ve got a Triumph motorcycle I want to build custom aluminum parts for. So when I can get started on that I’ll absolutely cover it. 👍🏻👍🏻
I love your work , I am a welder and I thought I needed all this equipment to work sheet metal, I'm very interested to learn more about the different tools and their applications
In almost all cases, everything that is shaped in metal CAN be done with simple hand tools and skills. The machines just make the work go quicker and to a cleaner level in a MUCH shorter time. To hand hammer out a bead detail would take a lot of work vs a few moments through a beadroller. I think that knowing the fundamentals about how it can be done is essential to doing it with the machines as well. If you don't know the basics the advanced stuff can become a confusing mess you can't work your way out of. I hope you continue to like my video. 👍
Good video, well presented and great instructional information. I hope to see more of your videos int he future! I gave it a like and will also subscribe
Hello, recently found your vids. A key point i like is "fancy expensive tools make your work faster not better" im a metal artisan black/blade smithing, machining (actual trade) i just finished 3 yrs of sheetmetal working . that work was boxes, cones and trapazoids for hvac companies. It peaked my interest in realy working the sheets. So i found your vids my fave thus far. Can you recommend any other chanel's? To learn from perhaps your favorite.
Thank you and welcome to my videos. The best recommendations I can make for you would be: Ron Covell's Channel: th-cam.com/channels/0-ronCUQNwMIkouWQC5mJQ.html Wray Schelin's Channel: th-cam.com/channels/U4f0UCOfiB32Lo4Z6NDghA.html Lazze's Channel: th-cam.com/users/lazzemetalshaping MetalManSweden: th-cam.com/users/MetalmanSweden I don't watch many other channels related to what I do honestly, I'm always working on my own content so I don't take the time. Those are the best recommendations I can make.
Sean Alexander that’s because he deleted all but one video. I was linking to a video that’s not there anymore. No idea why he did so, sad to see them go. Thanks for the updated link.
My first Hammer Forming video was on steel. The process is the same, just more hammering and time. So for these demos Aluminum is easier. That said next time I get to a Hammer Forming video I'll try and remember to do steel.
In your opinion, what are THE BEST "Tube Benders" on the market? One that you can bend a roll cage and be able to lay it FLAT on the floor without any twist or deviation? Thanks much. Really enjoy your videos.
Any of the Tube Benders I've used are capable of this. The problem is twist from not getting the bends lined up with each other. Using a Rotation gauge to make sure the bends stay on the same plane is the best bet: www.trick-tools.com/tools/Tube-Rotation My favorite machine I've used was a JD Squared Model 4. I haven't used any of the really "fancy" machines though. Thank you for the kind comment. It's appreciated.
How bout one video describing the types and thicknesses of the alum. you use in fabrication and which is best for specific applications i.e. Floor Pans, Gas Tanks etc. Thanks
WE need more people that form metal in this way. Too many people think you NEED the English wheel to form metal. So why did the Italians hammer their body parts in the 1960s?? Huh? I'd like t see a time-lapse video of how they hammered a whole car...
Some of those Italian cars are a bit scary under the paint as a result of that hammer into shape. But that's how they were built. I say it often, you don't NEED fancy machines to shape metal. They just make it significantly quicker to achieve a quality finished product. It is amazing what you can do with a few hammers and an old tree stump.
This is exactly what I want to do, but in 3mm thick brass sheet. Shallow dome about 4 inches diameter, half inch deep with 1 inch flange all round. Do you think that would be possible? Could I do it in one go, or would I need to anneal it part way through? I don't have a bossing mallet. Could it be done with a ball pein hammer or would I just get too many dents?
Ballpeen is gonna create a lot of small divots that will be hard to work out cleanly and not overstretch small areas. You will certainly have to re-anneal in the process. That thick of Brass is gonna be hard to move even annealed so any work hardening and gonna show up fast. I'd consider working the material fairly hot, but brass and similar alloys have a tendency to want to taco when heated and cooled. So a good clamp plate to keep the flange in place is gonna be important. If I was me I'd consider making the clamp piece out of steel or aluminum. Won't help keeping heat in the brass but wont have to worry about burning it on subsequent annealing / heating cycles. Good luck to you!
I believe this form has a 1/2" radius round over, and yes I used a handheld router to make it. I also have a table mounted router I use for the some purpose sometimes. You can choose your radius, or even not do that. I made a piece for work last week in which I just lightly sanded the sharp corner off so that my piece had a crisp edge where it met its flange.
Oof, it is going to be a serious workout. Stainless is tough and hard material. It will be a serious workout to make it happen. It will be hard on plastic mallets too. I cannot remember if I have ever hammer formed stainless steel, I don't think so. I should probably give it a try sometime, though I'm pretty sure my shoulder won't love me for it.
Anthony Burgess I sanded from 320 grit up to about 2,000 grit. Jumping every couple grit steps. Then used a 3M rubbing compound with a soft pad. And finally mothers metal polish by hand. I would have sanded more and buffed more for a show piece. This finish was only so good.
Rob Basile Fournier Enterprises: www.fournierenterprises.com/m3/FBMSET--bossing-mallets-3-piece-set-fbmset.html I like their mallets. They are heavier than many of the other brands for harder hits. Many of the cheap mallets are paper weights that you have to swing for the fences with.
All of my Ron Fournier Hammers have small ends on the other side. If the hammer form is particularly small I will use that end. However I always aim to use the largest radius face I can so as to reduce the number of hammer strikes. More small hammer strikes means more dings and imperfections to work out later.
Love your videos but christ do you move around alot....very distracting,for me it takes away from what you're trying to do...that's my only fault.other than that great video.
You are not alone in that sentiment. If I stand perfectly still I feel everything becomes far too flat, monotone, and uninteresting. So I move, point to things of interest, and attempt to keep my energy level up. It works quite well for me, however some folks find it distracting. Maybe eventually I will find a medium point between the energy level and my movements, for now I just go with the flow.
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Have you checked out my first video on Hammer Forming? Would you like to see more of these videos?
HotRodHippie
Yes to more of these type videos.
Awesome work.
Yes, more please. And what about hammer forming steel?
Yes, More please!
yes exellent
I'd love to see more . Also , how much can you bend over the form , before it becomes too difficult ?
Yes, these hammer forming videos are great would like to see more..Thank you
Hi HotRod Hippie ! DW here from South Africa. I just wanted to say Thank you! Amazing video. And amazing work!
Really appreciate. I just need to get some practice in.! Take it easy and please don't stop putting up videos!
Thank you very much. There is no end in sight for my making videos!
I enjoyed it. As someone with an interest but no experience I would have liked to see you do both ways in one video; by hand and with power tools so I had a comparison. Thanks for this.
I made a hood blister today following your basic instructions. I used a saber saw rather than a hole saw, and I cut the chamfer in the clamping board by adjusting the saw to 45 degrees. I don’t have that post dolly, but I did run it on the English Wheel to clean it up. It wasn’t quite as nice as yours, but still very passable. Thanks for the video. Very helpful.
Glad you are making the techniques work for you. English wheel is a solid choice for smoothing. I demonstrated with the dolly because I felt it a little more accessible for those that don't have a wheel.
Good video, nice handwork. Keep these videos coming.
I’d really like to see more on hammer forming! Iv done it a few times and like to see more of an in-depth look into a more complicated part. I’d also be interested in seeing your process of planishing and metal finishing after a panel is welded. Keep up the good work!
Ratrodryan35 there will definitely be more Hammer forming videos coming down the line. And a metal finishing video is high on the list as well. Thanks for the input!
Yes I saw it and I'm keeping it in my "Ingenious Ideas and Crafts" file. Thank You so much!! JD
What I'd like to see is a Video on finishing a butt weld on aluminum. Seems everyone wants to rush this. I need a little time to see what really happens threw all the little steps, what can go wrong, and how to correct it. Thanks! JD
Noted. I need to do a series on metal finishing. I’ve got a Triumph motorcycle I want to build custom aluminum parts for. So when I can get started on that I’ll absolutely cover it. 👍🏻👍🏻
Learning a lot watching your vídeos.
I love your work , I am a welder and I thought I needed all this equipment to work sheet metal, I'm very interested to learn more about the different tools and their applications
In almost all cases, everything that is shaped in metal CAN be done with simple hand tools and skills. The machines just make the work go quicker and to a cleaner level in a MUCH shorter time. To hand hammer out a bead detail would take a lot of work vs a few moments through a beadroller. I think that knowing the fundamentals about how it can be done is essential to doing it with the machines as well. If you don't know the basics the advanced stuff can become a confusing mess you can't work your way out of. I hope you continue to like my video. 👍
Thank you for the post, I learn a lot from your videos. Do a series of hand tool metal shaping if you can! it help me learn how metal works.
k Le I will work on putting together some more videos on the subject. 👍
so glad I have stumbled on this channel , very informative .
Sam Pati I am glad you think so. Thank you!
Sam Pati I am glad you think so. Thank you!
Good video, well presented and great instructional information. I hope to see more of your videos int he future! I gave it a like and will also subscribe
John Wayne greatly appreciated. I upload videos every week. More metal shaping ones are coming.
Excellent demonstration. Thank you.
Much appreciated
Hello, recently found your vids. A key point i like is "fancy expensive tools make your work faster not better" im a metal artisan black/blade smithing, machining (actual trade) i just finished 3 yrs of sheetmetal working . that work was boxes, cones and trapazoids for hvac companies. It peaked my interest in realy working the sheets. So i found your vids my fave thus far. Can you recommend any other chanel's? To learn from perhaps your favorite.
Thank you and welcome to my videos. The best recommendations I can make for you would be:
Ron Covell's Channel: th-cam.com/channels/0-ronCUQNwMIkouWQC5mJQ.html
Wray Schelin's Channel: th-cam.com/channels/U4f0UCOfiB32Lo4Z6NDghA.html
Lazze's Channel: th-cam.com/users/lazzemetalshaping
MetalManSweden: th-cam.com/users/MetalmanSweden
I don't watch many other channels related to what I do honestly, I'm always working on my own content so I don't take the time. Those are the best recommendations I can make.
@@HotRodHippie an updated link to Metalman Sweden (the other didn't work for me): th-cam.com/channels/uO1Y2NqkDiWM_dXikIBuzw.html
Sean Alexander that’s because he deleted all but one video. I was linking to a video that’s not there anymore. No idea why he did so, sad to see them go. Thanks for the updated link.
@@HotRodHippie aha now I see - what a shame :(
Sean Alexander indeed he had some great stuff.
I liked how the green tapemeasure spawned out of nowhere @ 4:02 :D
My shop is on the edge of a wormhole.
Just Sub'ed . Great content and delivery of information.
We are working on buying my wife's grandfathers IH KB2.
It's going to need some work.
VideosByAl thank you. Glad to hear you are aiming to keep the IH going. I've always enjoyed the IH trucks and "SUV"s.
First, thank you for sharing your talent with use. I would love to see more, how about something out of steel?
My first Hammer Forming video was on steel. The process is the same, just more hammering and time. So for these demos Aluminum is easier. That said next time I get to a Hammer Forming video I'll try and remember to do steel.
Great videos! Do you have one showing how you create the closed hammer mould? How you carve it and make it smooth? Thanks from Canada!
No sorry, so far I've only explained it, not shown it. I need to make one about that. Good call.
In your opinion, what are THE BEST "Tube Benders" on the market? One that you can bend a roll cage and be able to lay it FLAT on the floor without any twist or deviation? Thanks much. Really enjoy your videos.
Any of the Tube Benders I've used are capable of this. The problem is twist from not getting the bends lined up with each other. Using a Rotation gauge to make sure the bends stay on the same plane is the best bet: www.trick-tools.com/tools/Tube-Rotation
My favorite machine I've used was a JD Squared Model 4. I haven't used any of the really "fancy" machines though.
Thank you for the kind comment. It's appreciated.
How bout one video describing the types and thicknesses of the alum. you use in fabrication and which is best for specific applications i.e. Floor Pans, Gas Tanks etc. Thanks
Earl Cousins that is a good idea. Thank you. I'll give it some thought for a future video.
Great Job!
this is Bang on. +1 sub
Thank you very much!
WE need more people that form metal in this way. Too many people think you NEED the English wheel to form metal. So why did the Italians hammer their body parts in the 1960s?? Huh?
I'd like t see a time-lapse video of how they hammered a whole car...
Some of those Italian cars are a bit scary under the paint as a result of that hammer into shape. But that's how they were built.
I say it often, you don't NEED fancy machines to shape metal. They just make it significantly quicker to achieve a quality finished product. It is amazing what you can do with a few hammers and an old tree stump.
This is exactly what I want to do, but in 3mm thick brass sheet. Shallow dome about 4 inches diameter, half inch deep with 1 inch flange all round. Do you think that would be possible? Could I do it in one go, or would I need to anneal it part way through?
I don't have a bossing mallet. Could it be done with a ball pein hammer or would I just get too many dents?
Ballpeen is gonna create a lot of small divots that will be hard to work out cleanly and not overstretch small areas. You will certainly have to re-anneal in the process. That thick of Brass is gonna be hard to move even annealed so any work hardening and gonna show up fast. I'd consider working the material fairly hot, but brass and similar alloys have a tendency to want to taco when heated and cooled. So a good clamp plate to keep the flange in place is gonna be important. If I was me I'd consider making the clamp piece out of steel or aluminum. Won't help keeping heat in the brass but wont have to worry about burning it on subsequent annealing / heating cycles.
Good luck to you!
Another like from me.
Thank you very much for the like and comment 👍👍
Hi great vid!!! What is the radius you used on the hole in the wood form? Did you use a router to make it?
I believe this form has a 1/2" radius round over, and yes I used a handheld router to make it. I also have a table mounted router I use for the some purpose sometimes.
You can choose your radius, or even not do that. I made a piece for work last week in which I just lightly sanded the sharp corner off so that my piece had a crisp edge where it met its flange.
how different would it be using stainless steel?
Oof, it is going to be a serious workout. Stainless is tough and hard material. It will be a serious workout to make it happen. It will be hard on plastic mallets too. I cannot remember if I have ever hammer formed stainless steel, I don't think so. I should probably give it a try sometime, though I'm pretty sure my shoulder won't love me for it.
What method did you use to put a polish on there like you did?
Anthony Burgess I sanded from 320 grit up to about 2,000 grit. Jumping every couple grit steps. Then used a 3M rubbing compound with a soft pad. And finally mothers metal polish by hand. I would have sanded more and buffed more for a show piece. This finish was only so good.
HotRodHippie Thanks 👍🏾
Where did you get your mallets?
Rob Basile Fournier Enterprises: www.fournierenterprises.com/m3/FBMSET--bossing-mallets-3-piece-set-fbmset.html
I like their mallets. They are heavier than many of the other brands for harder hits. Many of the cheap mallets are paper weights that you have to swing for the fences with.
Is this how they make the bumper bullets on the cars from the 1950?
Do you just use smaller versions of those hammers for the smaller hammer forms?
All of my Ron Fournier Hammers have small ends on the other side. If the hammer form is particularly small I will use that end. However I always aim to use the largest radius face I can so as to reduce the number of hammer strikes. More small hammer strikes means more dings and imperfections to work out later.
what material have the hammers
My "Fournier" brand mallets are UHMW Plastic.
www.fournierenterprises.com/bossing.html
Love your videos but christ do you move around alot....very distracting,for me it takes away from what you're trying to do...that's my only fault.other than that great video.
You are not alone in that sentiment. If I stand perfectly still I feel everything becomes far too flat, monotone, and uninteresting. So I move, point to things of interest, and attempt to keep my energy level up. It works quite well for me, however some folks find it distracting. Maybe eventually I will find a medium point between the energy level and my movements, for now I just go with the flow.
Please stop dancing around and waving your arms. Too much drama. Great video and good information