19.40 Shamar Rinpoche says: "Since Panchen installed by CCP is not recognized by HHDL, the Karmapa installed by CCP too should not be recognised by HHDL". The fact is that, HHDL will recongnise any trulku if reincarnation is genuine, if reincarnation is not genuine he wont accord his recognition. View and action of atheist CCP doesnot make an atom of differece, neither to HHDL or to the faith of the Tibetans
@@leongsam5197I disagreed with Shamar rinpoche on that point. It doesnot mean I dont respect him. He is the Brutus in the camp of conspirators. He was misled by the cassiuses and cascas in his camp. Shamar Rinpoche alone put forward his claims with selfless thoughts and beliefs.
@@factspoken9062 Sharmar thinks by his relation with 16th Karmapa n his personal feud Situ Rinpoche...he has enough influence to start his own camp of followers. Much like what Devandatta did during Buddha's time
@@leongsam5197 It is always good to make decision based on knowledge, not on ignorance. Never forget that 16th Karmapa himself recognised Shamarpa trulku and HHDL confirmed it. By insulting Sharmarpa, you indirectly insult the 16th Karmapa and HHDL
Shamarpa is building up his argument using all his points. In this videos he never denies the validity of Trulku Ogyen. He just want to explore the possibilty of endorsing both the trulkus as Karmapa. 2.15 and 13.20 Shamar Rimpoche states here clearly that he personally have accepted the proof letter and letter from Dalai Lama. His argument is that Labrang (monk body of the Tsurphu Monastery) has not accepted it . Shamar Rinpoche kyapsuche, he is the Brutus in this conspiracy, his mind is poisoned by the rest of conspirators.
How come the publisher of this video post this with English title and desctrription but doesn't even bother to provide an English translation? Too lazy or is Shamarpas speech too embarassing?
(1) Decades ago, the Shamarpa asked the Dalai Lama to endorse Thaye Dorje as the Karmapa. Shamarpa proved to the Dalai Lama that Thaye Dorje was the Karmapa. The Dalai Lama still refused as it will make the Dalai Lama look bad for endorsing Ogyen Trinley. ~ th-cam.com/video/QJJXYAz3Bz0/w-d-xo.html It is known that Tai Situ Rinpoche recognized Ogyen Trinley by stealth. Tai Situ Rinpoche used the Dalai Lama's fame to promote his Ogyen Trinley candidate in order to secure the Karmapa wealth of many generations. (2) Even though the Dalai Lama endorsed Ogyen Trinley as Karmapa, Thaye Dorje could not be restrained and continues to grow immensely in popularity all over the world. Even without the Dalai Lama's endorsement, the Karmapa Thaye Dorje is growing in importance. Tai Situ Rinpoche thought that without the Dalai Lama's endorsement, the Karmapa Thaye Dorje would fall and become nothing. He was wrong. (3) Shamarpa Rinpoche had asked the Dalai Lama to at least ordain Thaye Dorje as a monk when he was very young and the Dalai Lama refused. This refusal hurt Shamarpa and the Karmapa Thaye Dorje very much. The Dalai Lama sidelined Shamarpa Rinpoche and Thaye Dorje. It was a grievous insult and detrimental interference. In the Karma Kagyu tradition it is the Shamarpa who is the first and foremost to recognize the Karmapas and only in his absence do other regents recognize the Karmapas. Not only did the Dalai Lama interfere in Karma Kagyu affairs but the Dalai Lama took sides. That caused so much fighting and disharmony within the Karma Kagyu school of Buddhism. Tai Situ Rinpoche was wrong not to consult with Shamarpa Rinpoche in all of this. (4) The Dalai Lama had no business interfering in Karma Kagyu traditions by recognizing a Karmapa. In the history of the Karma Kagyu school, there has not been one Karmapa recognized by a Dalai Lama nor did they ever need the Dalai Lama's endorsement. This interference by the Dalai Lama has caused the Karma Kagyu school to take two sides and broke them up and created much disharmony. The disharmony, fighting and mud-slinging as to which one is the real Karmapa has continued to this day in 2019. (5) Shamarpa Rinpoche passed away in 2014 and it is up to the Karmapa to recognize his incarnation without the endorsement or interference of the Dalai Lama. (6) Now the Karmapa Thaye Dorje recognizes his son born in 2018 as Shamarpa Rinpoche's incarnation and he does not ask the Dalai Lama to endorse this incarnation. He does not need it. The Dalai Lama has done enough damage. This will shift the dynamics of the Karma Kagyu school again in favor of the Shamarpa Rinpoche's side. Unfortunately, it will make Ogyen Trinley look strange and left out in the cold. Within the Kagyu school, the Shamarpa is the next highest incarnation after the Karmapa. The Karmapas always recognized Shamarpas and vice versa. It shows that the Karmapa Thaye Dorje has the full authority to recognize the next highest incarnation within their school on his own. This Shamarpa will be spiritually trained by the Karmapa Thaye Dorje himself without the influence of the aged Dalai Lama and his government-in-exile which most Karma Kagyus consider a regime. (7) During the Kagyu Monlam prayers in Bodhgaya on January 2019, Thaye Dorje was there leading the Monlam (New Year's prayers) and so was the Dalai Lama in Bodhgaya, giving teachings in another location nearby. The Dalai Lama, while in Bodhgaya, wanted to meet Thaye Dorje but Thaye Dorje refused. Thaye Dorje avoided the Dalai Lama. It was an insult to the Dalai Lama that he had to accept for all the damage he had done in their Karmapa affair and Karma Kagyu school. The Dalai Lama had sidelined Shamarpa and Thaye Dorje when asked to endorse Thaye Dorje decades ago. Now that the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley has run away to the USA, the Dalai Lama wants to be friendly with Thaye Dorje so that he can get on the Karma Kagyu school's good side. Without the Dalai Lama's permission, the two Karmapas met in France and decided to mend the rift. This will make the Dalai Lama look bad. Even the Dalai Lama did not think in such a big way or a middle way to help mend the rift. Too bad and too late for the Dalai Lama to make friends with the Karma Kagyu school of Buddhism. So much damage has been done. But the Karmapa Thaye Dorje is on the way to mending all this. Karma Tsogyal
Shamarpa is building up his argument using all his points. In this videos he never denies the validity of Trulku Ogyen. He just want to explore the possibilty of endorsing both the trulkus as Karmapa. 2.15 and 13.20 Shamar Rimpoche states here clearly that he personally have accepted the proof letter and letter from Dalai Lama. His argument is that Labrang (monk body of the Tsurphu Monastery) has not accepted it . So dont add your Bullshit here. You smell of CCP shit.
2.15 and 13.20 ...Shamarpa states here clearly that he "personally" accepted the proof letter and letter from HHDL. That means he accepted Thrinlay Dorji as the genuine karmapa. His excuse was that Monk body of tshurphu didnt accept it. So dont be blind
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Sha mar Rinpoche truth speech thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
རིན་པོ་ཆེ། བཀའ་དྲིན་ཆེ།
19.40 Shamar Rinpoche says: "Since Panchen installed by CCP is not recognized by HHDL, the Karmapa installed by CCP too should not be recognised by HHDL".
The fact is that, HHDL will recongnise any trulku if reincarnation is genuine, if reincarnation is not genuine he wont accord his recognition. View and action of atheist CCP doesnot make an atom of differece, neither to HHDL or to the faith of the Tibetans
Meaning to say Sharmar cannot con HHDL
@@leongsam5197I disagreed with Shamar rinpoche on that point. It doesnot mean I dont respect him. He is the Brutus in the camp of conspirators. He was misled by the cassiuses and cascas in his camp. Shamar Rinpoche alone put forward his claims with selfless thoughts and beliefs.
@@leongsam5197 Meaning to say CCP cannot con the Tibetans😂
@@factspoken9062 Sharmar thinks by his relation with 16th Karmapa n his personal feud Situ Rinpoche...he has enough influence to start his own camp of followers. Much like what Devandatta did during Buddha's time
@@leongsam5197 It is always good to make decision based on knowledge, not on ignorance. Never forget that 16th Karmapa himself recognised Shamarpa trulku and HHDL confirmed it.
By insulting Sharmarpa, you indirectly insult the 16th Karmapa and HHDL
Miss this holy and brave soul 😭
2.24..this is what shamar rinpoche says:
"I, personally, accepted Urgyen Thrinley Dorji as karmapa... but the rumtek monastic body doesnt"
Politics is always there, who is right Karmapa will demonstrate from their deeds.
2.24..this is what shamar rinpoche says:
"I, personally, accepted Urgyen Thrinley Dorji as karmapa...but the rumtek monastic body doesnt"
Any sub title or translation .?
Truth is real karmapa was never found.
2.24..this is what shamar rinpoche says:
"I, personally, accepted Urgyen Thrinley Dorji as karmapa but the rumtek monastic body doesnt"
Truth is bitter at the very first time..
But i truely believe on you..
"""SHAMARPA KHENNO""
Serait il possible d'avoir une traduction?
ཀརྨ་ཞྭ་དམར་པ་མཁྱེན་ནོ།🙏🙏🙏 གསུང་བདེན་ནོ།་གསུང་བདེན་ནོ།
H. H. Kunzig Shamar Rinpoche was saying the truth but it is very sad that some of bullshit Tibetan tried to agains his truth.
Can you upload next clip Part 3/3.
Shamar rinpoche is right person .?
Please can you post Shamar Rinpoche's response to the Private office of HH the Dalai Lama Part 3/3
i know it's pretty randomly asking but does anybody know of a good site to watch newly released tv shows online ?
@Ares Bishop lately I have been using Flixzone. You can find it by googling =)
@Sonny Elliot yup, I've been watching on flixzone for since march myself :)
@Sonny Elliot thanks, I went there and it seems to work :D Appreciate it!
@Ares Bishop glad I could help =)
Shamarpa is building up his argument using all his points. In this videos he never denies the validity of Trulku Ogyen. He just want to explore the possibilty of endorsing both the trulkus as Karmapa.
2.15 and 13.20 Shamar Rimpoche states here clearly that he personally have accepted the proof letter and letter from Dalai Lama. His argument is that Labrang (monk body of the Tsurphu Monastery) has not accepted it . Shamar Rinpoche kyapsuche, he is the Brutus in this conspiracy, his mind is poisoned by the rest of conspirators.
How come the publisher of this video post this with English title and desctrription but doesn't even bother to provide an English translation? Too lazy or is Shamarpas speech too embarassing?
🙏🙏🙏🌷🌷🌷
English?
When sharmar barged into Sikkim labrang with the Indian army....he proved he lost his mind n eventually his early demise
Wow.
(1) Decades ago, the Shamarpa asked the Dalai Lama to endorse Thaye Dorje as the Karmapa. Shamarpa proved to the Dalai Lama that Thaye Dorje was the Karmapa. The Dalai Lama still refused as it will make the Dalai Lama look bad for endorsing Ogyen Trinley. ~ th-cam.com/video/QJJXYAz3Bz0/w-d-xo.html
It is known that Tai Situ Rinpoche recognized Ogyen Trinley by stealth. Tai Situ Rinpoche used the Dalai Lama's fame to promote his Ogyen Trinley candidate in order to secure the Karmapa wealth of many generations.
(2) Even though the Dalai Lama endorsed Ogyen Trinley as Karmapa, Thaye Dorje could not be restrained and continues to grow immensely in popularity all over the world. Even without the Dalai Lama's endorsement, the Karmapa Thaye Dorje is growing in importance. Tai Situ Rinpoche thought that without the Dalai Lama's endorsement, the Karmapa Thaye Dorje would fall and become nothing. He was wrong.
(3) Shamarpa Rinpoche had asked the Dalai Lama to at least ordain Thaye Dorje as a monk when he was very young and the Dalai Lama refused. This refusal hurt Shamarpa and the Karmapa Thaye Dorje very much. The Dalai Lama sidelined Shamarpa Rinpoche and Thaye Dorje. It was a grievous insult and detrimental interference. In the Karma Kagyu tradition it is the Shamarpa who is the first and foremost to recognize the Karmapas and only in his absence do other regents recognize the Karmapas. Not only did the Dalai Lama interfere in Karma Kagyu affairs but the Dalai Lama took sides. That caused so much fighting and disharmony within the Karma Kagyu school of Buddhism. Tai Situ Rinpoche was wrong not to consult with Shamarpa Rinpoche in all of this.
(4) The Dalai Lama had no business interfering in Karma Kagyu traditions by recognizing a Karmapa. In the history of the Karma Kagyu school, there has not been one Karmapa recognized by a Dalai Lama nor did they ever need the Dalai Lama's endorsement. This interference by the Dalai Lama has caused the Karma Kagyu school to take two sides and broke them up and created much disharmony. The disharmony, fighting and mud-slinging as to which one is the real Karmapa has continued to this day in 2019.
(5) Shamarpa Rinpoche passed away in 2014 and it is up to the Karmapa to recognize his incarnation without the endorsement or interference of the Dalai Lama.
(6) Now the Karmapa Thaye Dorje recognizes his son born in 2018 as Shamarpa Rinpoche's incarnation and he does not ask the Dalai Lama to endorse this incarnation. He does not need it. The Dalai Lama has done enough damage. This will shift the dynamics of the Karma Kagyu school again in favor of the Shamarpa Rinpoche's side. Unfortunately, it will make Ogyen Trinley look strange and left out in the cold. Within the Kagyu school, the Shamarpa is the next highest incarnation after the Karmapa. The Karmapas always recognized Shamarpas and vice versa. It shows that the Karmapa Thaye Dorje has the full authority to recognize the next highest incarnation within their school on his own. This Shamarpa will be spiritually trained by the Karmapa Thaye Dorje himself without the influence of the aged Dalai Lama and his government-in-exile which most Karma Kagyus consider a regime.
(7) During the Kagyu Monlam prayers in Bodhgaya on January 2019, Thaye Dorje was there leading the Monlam (New Year's prayers) and so was the Dalai Lama in Bodhgaya, giving teachings in another location nearby. The Dalai Lama, while in Bodhgaya, wanted to meet Thaye Dorje but Thaye Dorje refused. Thaye Dorje avoided the Dalai Lama. It was an insult to the Dalai Lama that he had to accept for all the damage he had done in their Karmapa affair and Karma Kagyu school.
The Dalai Lama had sidelined Shamarpa and Thaye Dorje when asked to endorse Thaye Dorje decades ago. Now that the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley has run away to the USA, the Dalai Lama wants to be friendly with Thaye Dorje so that he can get on the Karma Kagyu school's good side. Without the Dalai Lama's permission, the two Karmapas met in France and decided to mend the rift. This will make the Dalai Lama look bad. Even the Dalai Lama did not think in such a big way or a middle way to help mend the rift. Too bad and too late for the Dalai Lama to make friends with the Karma Kagyu school of Buddhism.
So much damage has been done. But the Karmapa Thaye Dorje is on the way to mending all this.
Karma Tsogyal
Shamarpa is building up his argument using all his points. In this videos he never denies the validity of Trulku Ogyen. He just want to explore the possibilty of endorsing both the trulkus as Karmapa.
2.15 and 13.20 Shamar Rimpoche states here clearly that he personally have accepted the proof letter and letter from Dalai Lama. His argument is that Labrang (monk body of the Tsurphu Monastery) has not accepted it . So dont add your Bullshit here. You smell of CCP shit.
Lama Karmapa Thae Dorje chenno! Lama Shamarpa Chenno!🌹🌹🌹
2.15 and 13.20 ...Shamarpa states here clearly that he "personally" accepted the proof letter and letter from HHDL. That means he accepted Thrinlay Dorji as the genuine karmapa. His excuse was that Monk body of tshurphu didnt accept it. So dont be blind
he is chines agent mad
Shamar utters many blasphe,mine, words against Karmapa ogyen Dohdul Trenlay Dorje. He says Karmapa is ordinary being, not comparabl to deities.
@@sonamwangyal5218😂