Read the full MC Commute Review on the 2020 Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sport ES DCT on Motorcyclist: www.motorcyclistonline.com/story/reviews/2020-honda-africa-twin-adventure-sport-es-dct-mc-commute-review/
What’s wrong? Are you not happy with your 2019? I had a 2017 African twin but it’s sadly not here with us anymore.. at least for the moment. Ever since I sold it I’ve been thinking about buying a brand new one AGAIN haha mine was previously the DCT transmission and I was genuinely impressed considering I kept it in its sports mode, it made me feel like I was driving a nice futuristic sports car /boat or cruise ship lmao
From press and Honda releases at launch time it says this sort of thing: "To create a more direct feeling from the throttle to rear wheel pickup, the Africa Twin DCT model has “G” button designed for gravel roads that modifies the control of the clutch system and eliminates the shift lag between gears." Now, people are all saying, why "G"? Why Gravel? I think I figured it out. OK, you want to call it dirt mode? D is taken on automatics with Drive. M for Mud? Manual. S for Sand? Maybe people would confuse it with Sport mode. I really believe that Honda was trying their best to make sure that button could not be confused with anything else. In the usual Honda fashion... read "weird".
I have an '18 AT DCT, I bought new on November 2019 and saved 28% off a 2020, about almost 40% less than a 2020 ATAS. Cruise would be something I'd use once in a blue moon and definitely not worth the premium for me.
The windscreen should retract all the way. 250 kg is pretty heavy, but it includes a lot of fuel. This is a different route. Nice change. The usual superb review. The best on TH-cam.
Hey Adam thanks for the review, love the "stream of consciousness" type review. You still scare me with your riding style, maybe not as scary from your perspective. :) AND the bike FINALLY has CRUISE CONTROL!!!
There's a pull switch fun button on the left handle bar to turn all that shit Off ! At 132 miles per hour cruising threw the smoky mountains you cant read any of that crap anyways
After riding a last years model Africa Twin DCT from a dealership, I can safely say I'll never buy an automatic bike in my lifetime. It honestly was less fun, less engaging, and took away part of the joy of riding a motorcycle. I have my daily driver car that's an automatic that I put around town on. Then I have the classic sports car to blast on the weekend or take to a local cars and coffee. The bike is there for those awesome weather days on those curvy back roads, or a cool trip up north to go camping with some friends. And so far in my years of riding I'd be willing to give up an automatic transmission for those times and do the shifting myself, making the occasion even more special and connected.
I think people are confusing the DCT with a CVT. DCTs with paddle shifting are used in most supercars including the Nissan GTR, Ford GT, Ferraris, Lambos, Porches, etc. CVTs are in Subarus, quads and snowmobiles and generally suck in cars. With DCT, you can go full manual, and it will shift faster than humanly possible, and will hold gears. The Sport modes, throttle and engine braking make it a surprisingly 'alive' bike to thrash on the road. Between DCT, Rekluse clutches and Speedshift kits, these things aren't going away. The only place you'll arguably find less control is in slow, technical terrain, but once you learn to use the rear brake in place of a clutch, the difference is negligible.
Same. The only time I would want it is in colder weather when fingers get numb hovering on the clutch lever, or spending hours in very slow speed uphill sections of track. I am going to buy a manual ATAS because I love shifting as well, but can see how DCT would make longer riding sessions possible with less fatigue.
The redundant lower dislpay is there for when you have your iphone connected to the bike and using car play. A thing to note, you cannot use the touch screen controls while moving even within carplay. You can still use the button controls though. Hoping the android auto update comes to this bike as well, and that they don't require the bluetooth headset to run carplay/android auto. sucks when your headset dies and then cant use navigation anymore. If anyone has any questions, I do own this exact model, and I'll try to answer what I can.
What's the longest distance you've traveled? How comfortable is the seat for long rides? How often do you have to fill up the gas tank and which fuel do you recommend? Answer at your convenience. I'm trying to decide between this and the 750
Gotta say you don’t miss a beat while driving and talking ,splitting traffic and just keep right on talking and pointing out things on dash !! As a truck driver you make me nervous. .... But I enjoyed your presentation....👍👍👍
They dont look all that comfortable to ride long distance cruising but i took my 2017 A.T. with honda's optional lowered color matched seat on a cruise from Indy to deals gap tail of the dragon U.S.129 and slade "the dragon" .. Before i left I mounted up a VORTEK 253C-43 TEETH all aluminum rear sprocket that gives just a bit more ability plunking in low gear on single track deer trails in tight wooded areas (stock is 42 T) and for a bit more traction a Pirelli MT90 SCORPION A/T 150/70 R 18 M/C 70V on the rear and a 90/90 - 21 of the same thing on front that are much better on gravel and dry dirt for drifting smoky mountain fire trails than the " road racing slicks " that came on it!!! Im 70 years old and when my harley dyna is out of gas at 130 miles its time to rest your ass for a while ! But not on this africa twin cuz i can go for about 250 miles and still have enough fuel but past time for a piss break top off the tank and hit throttle with no monkey butt !! This thing rides great ..using a low cut moose racing windshield (
Great review, gonna test ride one soon. Not really interested in dct but will give it a go. ES on the other hand sounds like something I'd definitely like.
The AT supports Apple CarPlay. The bottom LCD display is so that when that’s in use you can still see the speed etc. Still a fairly inelegant solution.
I miss my AT (2017 DCT), but there were a few things I would have changed (suspension was too soft, tube tires, no cruise). The Adventure Sports addresses all of those issues, but I do not like how much bulkier it is than the base model AT. Wish they did the tubeless wheels on the base model, I might get one. Even of they offered a version with a more street biased 19/17" cast wheel setup, I would consider it. Keep coming back to the Tiger 900.
New route! sweet! congrats on the new pad. The two displays are because you can have your apple car play up and running, and you lose speedo and tach. So that gives you the speed.
That was one of the best reviews I have ever watched. Awesome job! The only thing that freaks me out is that in Cali you can ride between cars in their Lanes. I live in Albuquerque and the idiots here would try to box you in and smash you
I was thinking the exact same thing. 67 in a 45, Improper Ln. changes, lack of any kind of turn signals, cutting people off left and right, blowing through traffic lights. No wonder CHP has such a hard on for bikers
In the movie "eazyrider" when Captain America takes his wrist watch off and pitches it in dust , turns up the wick of his pan head and burns rubber is the best way to navigate the Africa Twin
I get the argument of lane splitting when coming up to a stoplight... But is it still cool in California to lane split when doing 70 in light to no traffic? 😳
Great review. Goldwing F6B guy here. Looking for a second bike able to go anywhere in case the world ends. Or just camping ⛺️. Suggestions? P.s. need to add sidebags .
Go to your triumph dealer and get a Tiger 800XC ...they are around 470 pounds dry with 95 horsepower of a version of Triumph's 700 speed triple but with a longer stroke and a high torque camshaft profile ..the engine cases are high pressure die cast done by lotus Ford that gives you no porosities of imperfection with the strength and property of Billet aluminium. And all the internals are made by Cosworth in London. Downside after the engine wears out will cost you half the price of a new bike. My friend beats that all to hell as he just parks it in his garage at a hundred thirty thousand miles and buys used ones with 15,000 or so miles on it for around $6k to $8k and you got 100,000 miles of WFO riding left in it ! And they handle like an XR650R only with twice the power ...on test ride of a 2012 model that was brand new i past a school bus on the back wheel by merely twisting of the wick in 3rd gear along the white river half dirt broken pavement gravel in the turns that runs threw the middle of downtown Indianapolis ...jumped a speed bump in the dealership's back lot and they came ungluded on me and ran me off , got pissed and bought a harley ...get the triumph
I've heard that Honda offers an option ($300?) modification kit so you can alter the bike to shift gears in the old-school style with a clutch and foot-shifter, but also switch the bike to full Auto mode, too. Is this correct?
Do you think the seat is a bit high for getting a foot over? Also is there a risk of ending up on the back wheel with a fast burst of throttle? (Some riders may want that, but I don't!) Is the electronics and various Ride style settings hard to master?
It's funny how I quite simply LOVE Honda's cars, but I so DON'T love their bikes. I mean, I don't think they're bad, but, in this case, I'd have a Super Ténéré, or a Versys 1000, or an R 1250 GS, or a Tiger 1200 over the Africa Twin. I just don't know if I'd have the V-Strom 1050 instead of an Africa Twin.. Great review, Adam! Thanks a lot!
Because I’m serious about buying a ‘19 or ‘20 AF and have too much time on my hands, so I’ve watched a lot of reviews. The one fairly consistent concern is the seat, which many have said isn’t as comfortable as previous models. I’ve ridden the older model and found it reasonably comfortable, but still haven’t decided if the 2020 is worth the hefty increase in price. Any informed opinions are welcome!
tubeless wheels are the plus. if you got a puncture on a back wheel of the previous version you are done. you are not able to fix for sure. and if you do an adventure, then you are lost double...
Is riding between lanes, going around cars at lights legal? Idk im just asking. Just not something i see where i live. I dont own a bike so just wondering.
I dislike the moaning about the screen and carplay interface. Having access to google maps while riding natively is a game-changer. Get to know your product before reviewing it.
That’s what I was thinking too...am planning to buy this bike and some reviewers haven’t spent enough time with it before reviewing it. He seriously didn’t know what G mode was for😒. On a adventure bike with G mode I would guess that the G stands for Gravel.
There is a way around having to use the bluetooth headset to run carplay, and so on - I have seen it on TH-cam somewhere on a demonstration for the TFT-screen..!
Is it possible to replicate a "clutch-up" with the DCT? I'm sure there is enough HP on this bike to wheelie, but a clutch-up is a necessity when riding off road. The clutch version of the Africa-Twin will probably be my next bike.
I love the DCT transmission Honda has in the pioneers but does/ can the Africa twin DCT stall itself out like a pioneer if you’re choppy with the throttle like in rough and tight/ twist terrain?
I feel like Honda should offer a 17/19 inch cast wheel option for the Africa Twin. A lot of people buy this bike for commuting and pavement use only. You also have better road rubber options with a 17/19 setup.
I've never understood the small, cast wheel wannabe adventure bikes. There are amazing touring and sport touring bikes out there that do pavement better. They're the equivalent of buying a truck or SUV with 4WD, lockers and crawl control, and putting a ground effects package and low profile street tires on it.
@@sunnyvalejedi I think the 17/19 wheel size is a good compromise. Not everybody needs the off road wheels. 17/19 allows you to run decently capable off road tires without giving up the quicker steering and better front end grip on pavement you lose with a 21 incher. This in between wheel size suits most riders who do a fair bit of dirt roads. Sounds like it isn't for your riding needs, but it makes perfect sense for many. There is nothing wrong with more options.
No one is driving an F8 to the limit, the "performance" argue me is silly. Last time I took my little Fiesta (RIP) to the track I was passing plenty of people in cars with tons more performance. Cars aren't going anywhere. You can pick up a 500 HP car easy today, let alone cars with hundreds more that are still accessible.
@@JoshuaTootell And? I think arguing against more options is pretty silly. Specially since all of the other cars in the segment have both. Could make the same argument for Manuals. But the fact is the Sports car and Performance car market has been shrinking even before the big push for electrics.
Nice KTM Rc8R in the back on that truck at 13:17. I know they don't make them anymore, but if you can get your paws on one I'd love to see a morning commute on an Rc8R!
@@laz1go286 As someone who's never owned a bike yet, "lane splitting" wasn't even a phrase that existed in my small world until the last few weeks as I've begun "bike research." I had no idea it was a thing, just assumed it was someone being an impatient ass. A very unfair assumption on my part I guess. I'm sure I'l come across more stuff that was completely oblivious to me.
First thank you so much for that review. It was so detailed and I loved the way you introduced the bike! good job on that!! Even though it's a marvelous motorcycle I still don't feel like buying it. And it has nothing to do with your amazing review, you just gave me a lot to points to consider about whether I should or not get this bike. For me personally, I prefer the BMW1250GS even though it has some reliability issues now-days and all but I don't know why the Honda's ATs (and some other honda bikes) feel so anemic and weak and has no torque compared to most dual sports adv bikes. Take KTM's 1290 and BMW's 1250 and Triumph etc'.. it's a bit of a disappointment for me. The second thing I didn't like about it is that they took it too much to the "dirt bike" style and didn't give it a nice touch like BMW. I think it's more for people who like to go off road rather than go touring and sometimes go off road. And overall the plastic looks a bit cheap compared to BMWs.. the whole thing just doesn't look like a flagship to me. The Honda goldwing however.. oh boy, surely does!! (Disclaimer: I now ride Honda's cb500x 17 model and it feels as anemic as can be but I love the bike. I am considering to upgrade to the big league in the future).
I still feel like DCT is an answer to a question no one is asking, but since automatics are so much more popular in the US maybe that'll apply to DCT bikes as well.
DCT is superior to manual changing. Much faster and smoother. Never makes a bad shift. Awesome off the lights. You can override it if you want to with paddle controls just like modern sports cars. Next gear you want is almost always pre-selected on the alternate clutch.
@@stevebolton8471 It should be noted though, that the riding experience is most definitely different than a non-DCT bike. Things like walking next to the bike while light on the throttle can be tricky, and also doing pivot turns is done differently. There is no clutch to feather, which is awesome at times, but has gotten me into some interesting situations to say the least (whiskey throttle - oops!) At the end of the day, it really is a nice system and I am glad that my AT is a DCT. I do however, have my eyes on a KTM 790 Adventure R... :|
Ron L Hi, I have never wanted to walk next to the bike using the throttle to move it 😀. Whether you have DCT or not, slow turns should be controlled with the rear brake, never feather the clutch.
None the less it seems to be popular. 67% of Goldwings and 45% of ATs sold are DCT. Honestly Suprised it hasn't taken off in the Supersport market. I feel like a DCT would be superior than a Quickshifter.
Technically, splitting IS NOT legal. There is no law saying you can split traffic. However, there is no law forbidding it. And it is legal for two vehicles to occupy the same lane at the same time. So technically you are just "sharing a lane". But it is an acceptable practice.
Do you think Honda will come out with a model somewhere between the Africa Twin and their CB models. Something like their Six50 concept from a few years back. I am still holding my breath...
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Read the full MC Commute Review on the 2020 Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sport ES DCT on Motorcyclist: www.motorcyclistonline.com/story/reviews/2020-honda-africa-twin-adventure-sport-es-dct-mc-commute-review/
Instablaster.
Glad the 2020 came out. Got a leftover 2019 Adventure Sports Dct for 11k after taxes and what not.
We've sold more 2019 ATs in the last few months than we ever did
What not?
Man, you stole that!!!! Congrats.
@@mogumede8211 Thanks! Makes you wonder what the profit margins are normally
What’s wrong? Are you not happy with your 2019? I had a 2017 African twin but it’s sadly not here with us anymore.. at least for the moment. Ever since I sold it I’ve been thinking about buying a brand new one AGAIN haha mine was previously the DCT transmission and I was genuinely impressed considering I kept it in its sports mode, it made me feel like I was driving a nice futuristic sports car /boat or cruise ship lmao
The lower lcd display is for when you use the GPS navigation app on the main display,so you'll stil have basic info.
You've got to be the only person who can spit split lanes with one hand while explaining the electronics of a motorcycle.
was thinking the same thing
lol
much easier with the dct it's like a scooter
It’s not at all like a scooter. I own same bike. It’s 550 lbs.
What the helll!? No wheelie test? That's the best part Adam. You were my favorite reviewer.
No clutch
From press and Honda releases at launch time it says this sort of thing:
"To create a more direct feeling from the throttle to rear wheel pickup, the Africa Twin DCT model has “G” button designed for gravel roads that modifies the control of the clutch system and eliminates the shift lag between gears."
Now, people are all saying, why "G"? Why Gravel? I think I figured it out. OK, you want to call it dirt mode? D is taken on automatics with Drive. M for Mud? Manual. S for Sand? Maybe people would confuse it with Sport mode. I really believe that Honda was trying their best to make sure that button could not be confused with anything else. In the usual Honda fashion... read "weird".
I would have rather had it be called sport mode like it is in the pioneers
Got an 2018 AT DCT... Love it as a commuter. I would only upgrade because of the cruise control as everything else is just awesome.
and when you got a puncture on your back wheel, you are done. this is what i call adventure bike 👍
@@szeriman13 Huh?
I have an '18 AT DCT, I bought new on November 2019 and saved 28% off a 2020, about almost 40% less than a 2020 ATAS. Cruise would be something I'd use once in a blue moon and definitely not worth the premium for me.
The windscreen should retract all the way. 250 kg is pretty heavy, but it includes a lot of fuel.
This is a different route. Nice change.
The usual superb review. The best on TH-cam.
Hey Adam thanks for the review, love the "stream of consciousness" type review. You still scare me with your riding style, maybe not as scary from your perspective. :) AND the bike FINALLY has CRUISE CONTROL!!!
You should try riding a sports bike in London if you think that’s scary 😉
I always hate the lane splitting at turn lanes! Looks like he is pin striping every car! Lol
I was told by the dealership that 'G' mode is for gravel.
There's a pull switch fun button on the left handle bar to turn all that shit Off ! At 132 miles per hour cruising threw the smoky mountains you cant read any of that crap anyways
Nice to see your new commute, congratulations on your new home.
I have no idea what he's talking about. I just like watching him weave between cars. And just keeps talking without interruption.
After riding a last years model Africa Twin DCT from a dealership, I can safely say I'll never buy an automatic bike in my lifetime. It honestly was less fun, less engaging, and took away part of the joy of riding a motorcycle. I have my daily driver car that's an automatic that I put around town on. Then I have the classic sports car to blast on the weekend or take to a local cars and coffee. The bike is there for those awesome weather days on those curvy back roads, or a cool trip up north to go camping with some friends. And so far in my years of riding I'd be willing to give up an automatic transmission for those times and do the shifting myself, making the occasion even more special and connected.
No manual clutch = not a manual.
My van is an auto because there is no way to put in a third pedal. Otherwise, I wouldn't own an auto anything.
I think people are confusing the DCT with a CVT. DCTs with paddle shifting are used in most supercars including the Nissan GTR, Ford GT, Ferraris, Lambos, Porches, etc. CVTs are in Subarus, quads and snowmobiles and generally suck in cars. With DCT, you can go full manual, and it will shift faster than humanly possible, and will hold gears. The Sport modes, throttle and engine braking make it a surprisingly 'alive' bike to thrash on the road.
Between DCT, Rekluse clutches and Speedshift kits, these things aren't going away. The only place you'll arguably find less control is in slow, technical terrain, but once you learn to use the rear brake in place of a clutch, the difference is negligible.
I love shifting so DCT is not for me but I absolutely love this bike! Beautiful
Same. The only time I would want it is in colder weather when fingers get numb hovering on the clutch lever, or spending hours in very slow speed uphill sections of track. I am going to buy a manual ATAS because I love shifting as well, but can see how DCT would make longer riding sessions possible with less fatigue.
The redundant lower dislpay is there for when you have your iphone connected to the bike and using car play. A thing to note, you cannot use the touch screen controls while moving even within carplay. You can still use the button controls though. Hoping the android auto update comes to this bike as well, and that they don't require the bluetooth headset to run carplay/android auto. sucks when your headset dies and then cant use navigation anymore. If anyone has any questions, I do own this exact model, and I'll try to answer what I can.
What's the longest distance you've traveled?
How comfortable is the seat for long rides?
How often do you have to fill up the gas tank and which fuel do you recommend?
Answer at your convenience.
I'm trying to decide between this and the 750
G mode is for "grabber". The clutch grabs quicker. Great hair and that's a nice looking house. Congratulations. Thanks for the ride, Adam.
Congratulations for the new house 🍻
Thanks man. I am still moving-in/getting things dialed so I hope to be able to elevate the quality of these videos here soon.
Love having my question answered!
I am divided between Africa Twin and BMW GS Adventures. I favor the AF Twin for cost but the BMW GS Platform is Nice! Thanks for the Review.
Gotta say you don’t miss a beat while driving and talking ,splitting traffic and just keep right on talking and pointing out things on dash !!
As a truck driver you make me nervous. ....
But I enjoyed your presentation....👍👍👍
Adam seems so much less exited than usual. Somehow, I like him more like this, It feel more natural and less forced.
They dont look all that comfortable to ride long distance cruising but i took my 2017 A.T. with honda's optional lowered color matched seat on a cruise from Indy to deals gap tail of the dragon U.S.129 and slade "the dragon" .. Before i left I mounted up a VORTEK 253C-43 TEETH all aluminum rear sprocket that gives just a bit more ability plunking in low gear on single track deer trails in tight wooded areas (stock is 42 T) and for a bit more traction a Pirelli MT90 SCORPION A/T 150/70 R 18 M/C 70V on the rear and a 90/90 - 21 of the same thing on front that are much better on gravel and dry dirt for drifting smoky mountain fire trails than the " road racing slicks " that came on it!!! Im 70 years old and when my harley dyna is out of gas at 130 miles its time to rest your ass for a while ! But not on this africa twin cuz i can go for about 250 miles and still have enough fuel but past time for a piss break top off the tank and hit throttle with no monkey butt !! This thing rides great ..using a low cut moose racing windshield (
The lowest engine braking setting is 3, not 1, according to my manual.
Please do a follow-up on this with you riding in manual mode on DCT. There is an entirely different bike hiding in there. I promise.
Great review, gonna test ride one soon. Not really interested in dct but will give it a go. ES on the other hand sounds like something I'd definitely like.
I have the 2016 DCT with the G button on dash. G Mode on DCT is for gravel roads. It works pretty much like feathering a real clutch.
The AT supports Apple CarPlay. The bottom LCD display is so that when that’s in use you can still see the speed etc. Still a fairly inelegant solution.
The double display is when utilizing the GPS function on your phone.
I miss my AT (2017 DCT), but there were a few things I would have changed (suspension was too soft, tube tires, no cruise). The Adventure Sports addresses all of those issues, but I do not like how much bulkier it is than the base model AT. Wish they did the tubeless wheels on the base model, I might get one. Even of they offered a version with a more street biased 19/17" cast wheel setup, I would consider it. Keep coming back to the Tiger 900.
for the tubeless 👍
Just get a VFR or a K1600.
No more wheelie test at the end?
I wondered that too! He doesn't seem to be taking the same route when he gets to the office park. He's going to have to fix that!
@@racerdaveracerdave He bought a house and moved. That's why it's a different route.
Agree about the wheelie test though!
The grip guards are good for knocking mirrors
Nobody else has ridden this bike in a review the way Adam rode her.
Thanks for a great review!
New route! sweet! congrats on the new pad. The two displays are because you can have your apple car play up and running, and you lose speedo and tach. So that gives you the speed.
That was one of the best reviews I have ever watched. Awesome job! The only thing that freaks me out is that in Cali you can ride between cars in their Lanes. I live in Albuquerque and the idiots here would try to box you in and smash you
You'd be surprised how many cars actually make room for you out here.
Solid review, man! Thanks.
Driving like this in AZ would get you about 200 tickets in that one video
I was thinking the exact same thing. 67 in a 45, Improper Ln. changes, lack of any kind of turn signals, cutting people off left and right, blowing through traffic lights. No wonder CHP has such a hard on for bikers
The second small display is to have a speedo when using the big screen for navigation ;-)
In the movie "eazyrider" when Captain America takes his wrist watch off and pitches it in dust , turns up the wick of his pan head and burns rubber is the best way to navigate the Africa Twin
G mode stands for Gangster. I'm quite sure.
Lol. YUP.
that's GANGSTA' to you pal..
@@franyetso4899 there is a fun button that turns all that shit OFF so you can fly like super man Valentino Rossi Style
No one:
Adam: **B E A N S**
I get the argument of lane splitting when coming up to a stoplight... But is it still cool in California to lane split when doing 70 in light to no traffic? 😳
The legality is very vague. But in general, you ALWAYS can lane share. However, you can NEVER break the speed limit, so...
Great review - thanks, Adam
Great review. Goldwing F6B guy here. Looking for a second bike able to go anywhere in case the world ends. Or just camping ⛺️. Suggestions? P.s. need to add sidebags .
Go to your triumph dealer and get a Tiger 800XC ...they are around 470 pounds dry with 95 horsepower of a version of Triumph's 700 speed triple but with a longer stroke and a high torque camshaft profile ..the engine cases are high pressure die cast done by lotus Ford that gives you no porosities of imperfection with the strength and property of Billet aluminium. And all the internals are made by Cosworth in London. Downside after the engine wears out will cost you half the price of a new bike. My friend beats that all to hell as he just parks it in his garage at a hundred thirty thousand miles and buys used ones with 15,000 or so miles on it for around $6k to $8k and you got 100,000 miles of WFO riding left in it ! And they handle like an XR650R only with twice the power ...on test ride of a 2012 model that was brand new i past a school bus on the back wheel by merely twisting of the wick in 3rd gear along the white river half dirt broken pavement gravel in the turns that runs threw the middle of downtown Indianapolis ...jumped a speed bump in the dealership's back lot and they came ungluded on me and ran me off , got pissed and bought a harley ...get the triumph
I've heard that Honda offers an option ($300?) modification kit so you can alter the bike to shift gears in the old-school style with a clutch and foot-shifter, but also switch the bike to full Auto mode, too. Is this correct?
I would buy one in 25 years if my Rd07 ever broke down. 😎👌🏻
I’d like one, but yeah, my RD04 is still chuggin along quite nice and my NC get such good mpg!
The reason for the 2nd screen is to display current speed and other relevant info when rider is using the 7" display for example for Navigation.
Do you think the seat is a bit high for getting a foot over? Also is there a risk of ending up on the back wheel with a fast burst of throttle? (Some riders may want that, but I don't!) Is the electronics and various Ride style settings hard to master?
It's funny how I quite simply LOVE Honda's cars, but I so DON'T love their bikes. I mean, I don't think they're bad, but, in this case, I'd have a Super Ténéré, or a Versys 1000, or an R 1250 GS, or a Tiger 1200 over the Africa Twin. I just don't know if I'd have the V-Strom 1050 instead of an Africa Twin.. Great review, Adam! Thanks a lot!
how tall are you and inseam? you are the best review guy on the web btw
DCT 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I like the way Adam pronounces "nomenclature." I'm going to start saying it that way.
Hardly a word you're going to use often.
Because I’m serious about buying a ‘19 or ‘20 AF and have too much time on my hands, so I’ve watched a lot of reviews. The one fairly consistent concern is the seat, which many have said isn’t as comfortable as previous models. I’ve ridden the older model and found it reasonably comfortable, but still haven’t decided if the 2020 is worth the hefty increase in price. Any informed opinions are welcome!
tubeless wheels are the plus. if you got a puncture on a back wheel of the previous version you are done. you are not able to fix for sure. and if you do an adventure, then you are lost double...
G mode Gravel mode
When you are using Apple Car Play, for nav for example, you still have the small display for gearing, turn indicators, etc.
Is riding between lanes, going around cars at lights legal? Idk im just asking. Just not something i see where i live. I dont own a bike so just wondering.
I dislike the moaning about the screen and carplay interface. Having access to google maps while riding natively is a game-changer. Get to know your product before reviewing it.
That’s what I was thinking too...am planning to buy this bike and some reviewers haven’t spent enough time with it before reviewing it. He seriously didn’t know what G mode was for😒. On a adventure bike with G mode I would guess that the G stands for Gravel.
There is a way around having to use the bluetooth headset to run carplay, and so on - I have seen it on TH-cam somewhere on a demonstration for the TFT-screen..!
Is it possible to replicate a "clutch-up" with the DCT? I'm sure there is enough HP on this bike to wheelie, but a clutch-up is a necessity when riding off road. The clutch version of the Africa-Twin will probably be my next bike.
There's so much power you don't need it. Manual mode will hold the gear until you decide to switch it.
If given the choice "not cost to you" would you take the DCT or manual? Thanks
@AdamWaheed As always great review Adam. One question - you are a tall guy and seem to be riding in low seat setting. Any reasons?
I love the DCT transmission Honda has in the pioneers but does/ can the Africa twin DCT stall itself out like a pioneer if you’re choppy with the throttle like in rough and tight/ twist terrain?
Will not stall.
The lip smacking was really annoying in this video.
It's possible to eliminate it in post, but since Adam has taken over the show, there's not much editing. I say get used to it :)
I feel like Honda should offer a 17/19 inch cast wheel option for the Africa Twin. A lot of people buy this bike for commuting and pavement use only. You also have better road rubber options with a 17/19 setup.
17/19 sounds nice. But it would no longer be an Africa Twin....
Triumph has this figured out.
I've never understood the small, cast wheel wannabe adventure bikes. There are amazing touring and sport touring bikes out there that do pavement better. They're the equivalent of buying a truck or SUV with 4WD, lockers and crawl control, and putting a ground effects package and low profile street tires on it.
@@sunnyvalejedi I think the 17/19 wheel size is a good compromise. Not everybody needs the off road wheels. 17/19 allows you to run decently capable off road tires without giving up the quicker steering and better front end grip on pavement you lose with a 21 incher. This in between wheel size suits most riders who do a fair bit of dirt roads. Sounds like it isn't for your riding needs, but it makes perfect sense for many. There is nothing wrong with more options.
Funny enough, I see jeeps every damn day around here with shit like low profile tires @@sunnyvalejedi
honda Africa twin adventure
It is a wonderful motorcycle!
I came to want it!
Say it with me... "no-min-clay-ture"
G mode stands for 'God help me mode'.
I find interesting how Honda makes a great DCT for their bikes, but not for their cars. A Type-R with a DCT would be as quick as the Golf R.
A DCT in the Type R would ruin it.
Save the manual!
@@JoshuaTootell A DCT would improve performance and sales.
Forgot save the manual, we need to save our Cars.
No one is driving an F8 to the limit, the "performance" argue me is silly. Last time I took my little Fiesta (RIP) to the track I was passing plenty of people in cars with tons more performance.
Cars aren't going anywhere. You can pick up a 500 HP car easy today, let alone cars with hundreds more that are still accessible.
@@JoshuaTootell And?
I think arguing against more options is pretty silly. Specially since all of the other cars in the segment have both.
Could make the same argument for Manuals. But the fact is the Sports car and Performance car market has been shrinking even before the big push for electrics.
Nice KTM Rc8R in the back on that truck at 13:17. I know they don't make them anymore, but if you can get your paws on one I'd love to see a morning commute on an Rc8R!
The way you ride I'm surprised you aren't a road crayon yet.
Nothing special there.
Just being efficient and applying lane splitting laws which should be the way everywhere IMO.
@@laz1go286 As someone who's never owned a bike yet, "lane splitting" wasn't even a phrase that existed in my small world until the last few weeks as I've begun "bike research." I had no idea it was a thing, just assumed it was someone being an impatient ass. A very unfair assumption on my part I guess. I'm sure I'l come across more stuff that was completely oblivious to me.
First thank you so much for that review. It was so detailed and I loved the way you introduced the bike! good job on that!!
Even though it's a marvelous motorcycle I still don't feel like buying it. And it has nothing to do with your amazing review, you just gave me a lot to points to consider about whether I should or not get this bike. For me personally, I prefer the BMW1250GS even though it has some reliability issues now-days and all but I don't know why the Honda's ATs (and some other honda bikes) feel so anemic and weak and has no torque compared to most dual sports adv bikes. Take KTM's 1290 and BMW's 1250 and Triumph etc'.. it's a bit of a disappointment for me. The second thing I didn't like about it is that they took it too much to the "dirt bike" style and didn't give it a nice touch like BMW. I think it's more for people who like to go off road rather than go touring and sometimes go off road.
And overall the plastic looks a bit cheap compared to BMWs.. the whole thing just doesn't look like a flagship to me. The Honda goldwing however.. oh boy, surely does!!
(Disclaimer: I now ride Honda's cb500x 17 model and it feels as anemic as can be but I love the bike. I am considering to upgrade to the big league in the future).
Buddy, if you don’t know why there are two displays, then you haven’t done your research.
Does the manual transmission last longer than the DCT?
I actually ride and am sure there isn't anyway the DCT can see the road ahead or how i want to ride out the mid-range tourqe in a wet curve.
I still feel like DCT is an answer to a question no one is asking, but since automatics are so much more popular in the US maybe that'll apply to DCT bikes as well.
DCT is superior to manual changing. Much faster and smoother. Never makes a bad shift. Awesome off the lights. You can override it if you want to with paddle controls just like modern sports cars. Next gear you want is almost always pre-selected on the alternate clutch.
@@stevebolton8471 It should be noted though, that the riding experience is most definitely different than a non-DCT bike. Things like walking next to the bike while light on the throttle can be tricky, and also doing pivot turns is done differently. There is no clutch to feather, which is awesome at times, but has gotten me into some interesting situations to say the least (whiskey throttle - oops!)
At the end of the day, it really is a nice system and I am glad that my AT is a DCT. I do however, have my eyes on a KTM 790 Adventure R... :|
Ron L Hi, I have never wanted to walk next to the bike using the throttle to move it 😀. Whether you have DCT or not, slow turns should be controlled with the rear brake, never feather the clutch.
@@stevebolton8471 Yes i agree with Steve i have more control on my NC700 DCT feathering throttle with rear break.
None the less it seems to be popular. 67% of Goldwings and 45% of ATs sold are DCT.
Honestly Suprised it hasn't taken off in the Supersport market. I feel like a DCT would be superior than a Quickshifter.
Are you allowed to ride like that, between two rows of moving traffic?
Splitting lanes in perfectly legal in California (Adam has mentioned this a couple of times, in his "commute" videos).
@@kenc2257 OK. In the UK you'd either get the cops on your case or a whole load of drivers. lol
Technically, splitting IS NOT legal. There is no law saying you can split traffic.
However, there is no law forbidding it. And it is legal for two vehicles to occupy the same lane at the same time. So technically you are just "sharing a lane".
But it is an acceptable practice.
I puckered at 19:32
??? don't see it
Is it me or is this new home to office commute seems to have a huge amount of traffic than the other previous commutes?
Also seems WAY longer
Roughly 60 miles/60 minutes
Congrats on the home purchase, Waheed! You getting domesticated?
He even tamed his hair!
Commute the manual one please, some of us like full control .
Do you think Honda will come out with a model somewhere between the Africa Twin and their CB models. Something like their Six50 concept from a few years back. I am still holding my breath...
There is rumour of a 750-ish Africa Twin to be announced at EICMA 2020 (November). I guess it'll be pitched at the T7 and 850GS.
NC?
It would be nice to see you sitting on it from the Sideview, just to get a better idea of the sitting position and riding position,,,,,,,,,
Really appreciate my dear rider.. hope you guys are fine.. creatively always base of passion.. well that bichy oil sucks ..
🔥🔥🔥🔥
No backing it in?
No wheelie?
Come on! ;-)
I love my 2014 DL 1000, but I would kill for electronic cruise control.
Missed the wheelie!?
she makes toast in the morning.
Crazy good review i get anxious when hes squeezing thru on the white lines he has zero fucks
Cool lookin bike
How much top speed of this
My 2018 hits 230kmh with room to spare. This will be faster.
The double Speedo is killing me..
Garthe Knight's preferred motorcycle
I'm sure the G mode is for giddy-up!
You're nuts!!
Awesome 💎
I never liked the front of this bike but it's a great bike overall
What’s in the new garage?!?!?
Probably unpacked moving boxes.
Seems like he knew absolutely nothing about this bike but decided to explain away none the less.
Honda had ABS and traction control on a motorcycle in 1992.