2:14 Actually HETC's base speed is 16 now, which is the same as any soul (that doesnt give speed up or down) with no morph. and as for rage, it now only nerfs your resistance to 20 since its the min resistance you have, and well the knife wave is actually REALLY good and messy, also the slowing the melee gives to sans being able to stack is just OP if you manage to get 2-3 hits you basically won unless the sans can defend himself greatly
I feel like the rework is very good, and now they are worth 500 wins and a hard to get badge. But people make it out way stronger than it is, no sans is really dead after the slow down stacking unless they don't have a bone zone or anything like force. So maybe like 2 or 3 sanses.
imma put some thoughts here. dusttale frisk. yes its shield takes a sec to recharge but if you are good at minimalizing the unnecessary time its active and actually dodging a bunch of stuff its still great. bravery dustfrisk is scary. about 120ish base dmg. 178 crit and if your healing items are legendary heros you can do about 200 with 1 and 246 with 2. and thats just counting the dmg bravery gives you. and the second life isnt as bad as people say it is. yes you need to be incredible at dodging or flighting smoothing that doesnt have that many moves total or good moves but this goes very far. next thing imma talk about is bone. people say after the nerfs is bad but it really isnt. ive learned kindness bone is incredibly good. new bone is a super aggressive weapon. you get free heals if you attack recovering 30 stam and 12 hp. you have a blaster that can keep the pressure going and a dodge that is great for movement and makes u immune. bone cannot be taken away from you and you can still hit bonewalker if he picks you up. yes you can throw the ketchup but its a waste. doesnt do much and not worth giving up free heals. killer knife. ik its overrated but something that can bump it up a tiny bit is that its not the best with determination due to your second life taking your stability and you need it build it again. kindness makes it a bit easier due to the speed you can get and lets you keep it more. something you forgot about pers scythe is more dmg the lower your hp is. a combo to consider. ballet shoes and kindness. the shoes bassicly negate the slowness due to your sprint being unaffected and you just get free heals. as long as you dont hold wasd during your spin and use one of your spins to get out of danger when your low on stamina this weapon is a nearly unstoppable rush weapon. for about a minute or 2. it cannot play the long game. gpan also has lifesteal btw. and lastly outer trident deserves to be a bit higher. 120 hp. 175 base dmg. an amazing anti camp ability that also gives you 20 speed and very high jump. need i say more? this weapon is terrifying if used right. and something about cleaver. its strong but if you can stall/play keep away then they will die quite easily. if the cleaver cant end the round fast or is dealing with something that has a final attack they are most likly dead. also pers and horror axe is quite the combo allowing you to preserve your hunger quite well and letting you tank hits when using rage. sorry if this is too much i just learned how to use a lot of weapons. yes i play ulc too much.
Help_Tale Chara's rework also made their max resistance 75%, however it can never drop below 20%. Even if Rage is used. On top of that, their weapon still has a chance to slow the Sans upon hitting them, And now their movement speed was buffed to the average 16.
4:39 i would like to inform you that perseverance+torn notebook actually adds an extra 10 defense (sure you get 45 with perseverance+cleaver but you also have hp drain)
its really sad how mid outertale chara is, they can cancel jumps but thats about it, the rest of its stats are decent at best which is really sad. they need to buff ot chara.
Sans power ain’t bad, it’s a B. (It would of been a A but it is meh at fighting hp characters sadly.) With the buffs given recently, he’s a BEAST at destroying stamina from sans. His charged blaster doing around 35 + 200 hp, his M1 doing around 20 stamina and 45 hp, if fully hit) and a support item that you can use to either heal your stamina to max and get 17 hp or slow down sans for 4 seconds (like really slowed)
How you throw ketchup tho bc Ig it lands you win pretty much bc blindness and slowness is broken like it allows whole team to Rush down sans and paired with killer knife its inf slow
The most underrated combo is DT frisk w/ integrity, if you have enough skill you will be able to basically dodge everything and if you get hit the shield will take all the dmg and the phase 2 well... Will dodge more easily... Sometimes
My personal favorite combo is killer knife and integrity. With integrity giving you speed necessary to dodge most things, and killer knife already making you faster, you can easily land hits, back away when necessary, and dodge any and all attacks that you can avoid. The only problem with the combo is that undodgeable attacks are the bane of your existence.
I can agree with the stick, it’s heavily underrated, when I started a new ULC account I fought a dust swap no upgrades with kindness soul and the stick and got them to the HP phase BY MYSELF and time them out because stick dmg is still dog
Oh empty gun + kindness? You know I didn't even know it was a combo, and it looks like this is my first combo I've ever used because I just loved using an empty gun. Thank you for the information
I'd put HETC at 3rd, it's really op now due to no speed nerf, knife wave being just overpowered, tanky as hell, and slowing on hit, the only flaws are no dash, and a really bad melee reach
Also OT trident is SUPER underrated in this, it can be so op as a generalist weapon due to stars being able to severely punish campers, extreme melee damage, good support with it's buffs, and good sólo potential due to high mobility for having 120 hp
If you didn't know swap charas weapons have their own cds so you can spam swap between the forms for basically half the swing cd it's pretty good. Swap chara is also immune to weapon removal since swapping gives you it back, and against hardtale it's even better because you can have two chara knives without having to swap since you can just swap to regain your weapon then pick the old one back up.
I feel like your kinda meat riding the tough gloves Ngl, Time paradox and Btt would absolutely destroy tough gloves users because of the repeated, uncontrollable dash attacks
Been using golden pan and perseverance before this video came out, it's cracked. But I will try out that empty gun and kindness duo. I'm an Xbox Player, so if I can hit my shots, it's neat.
I DEFINETLY agree on Undertale Chara, I remember using it alot before even the Genocidal Update rolled around, it was and will always be a viable, consistent option.
yea i used to main undertale chara and consistently did well with them i don’t use them much anymore but that’s definitely not because they’re bad or anything, just a preference
@@skell6134 i havent been able to unlock them 😭 i’d imagine they’re good tho, the ones ive played against seem pretty good and the save looks very helpful
The problem with dt scythe is that 1st off its mechanic of being good is inconsistent, hit the sans with an attack you need to predict else you miss. 2nd off you lose in phase 2 I could win against a dt scythe with science sans without better gear. It’s entirely countered by camping of which is what 90% of characters do in the game due to the flawed stamina mechanic.
Have you tried making sans bone and kindness combo mainly for attacker bc MASSIVE ammount of heals + you restore ketchup after few hits also the sideslide wchich gives s (Just do not use blaster unless there is camper or ur top far away) btw how you throw ketchup at sans to make it puddle bc it slows down sans and blind them great long comment
Ulc had soul combos but since empty promises update came out only 2 combos remain, Patience + Toy Knife (Gives slashes that slow sans down, extra dmg) Perseverance + Torn Notebook (More defense)
I have some words to state. Fresh Bat isnt that bad;-;, bone/sans power got a rework so it’s honestly decent now, and healing is DT for people who want more health but dont want to spend 8 years doing 1 damage per hit on the Chara boss fight
Ballet shoes still too low in my opinion, i honestly think if used well enough WITH KINDNESS, it could be THE #1 weapon. Heres the main thing that makes me think ballet shoes is so good, and a massive tip for all 3 ballet shoes users out there: Ballet shoes running speed is FASTER THAN THE LOBBY SPEED, and does not change no matter what soul you use. Kindness ballet shoes moves absurdly fast (28 speed, almost twice as fast as the regular walkspeed), and a good ballet shoes can easily keep their sprint up for almost an entire round. Having healing means you can keep yourself alive for much longer, practically never giving sans a chance to breathe. You can also combine this with sea tea (or even multiple) to either make your run EVEN FASTER or make your walking speed good enough to use while you regen sprint, and you can use legendary heroes to buff your already good damage to be even stronger. Being able to float in the air with pirouette can also be really useful for dodging certain attacks, especially with things like last breath or disbelief. Another thing to note is that the hitbox on ballet shoes is preeeetty big, not the biggest but definitely not hard to land while running. The only real weaknesses for kindness ballet shoes are really strong/spammy sanses or anything with orange soul moves, as they make standing still to regen stamina basically impossible, and kindness ballet shoes regular walk speed is REALLY slow (13 speed...)
Ok I know it’s just your opinion BUT UF chara at max is pretty good and I don’t understand why some say it’s torture to grind if you grind in low wins you easily get exp and after the first upgrade it can get some wins the healing is pretty good imo you can get 15 hp in the time a kindness can get an item which is pretty good but it can also get a max of 22.5 if your lucky enough I’d say it’s a pretty good chara anyways I know it just your opinion but I just wanted to say what I think about UF frisk you can have your opinion but I’m just saying mine :)
Oh yea I forgot this is an old video I’m pretty new to the game and so I don’t know if it was worse 4 months ago but if it was then I’d probably agree with you
Uh... sorry to say, but the golden pan? Kinda sucks.... It heals teammates, but it only heals 1-3 HP per. And the hitbox is even smaller than regular Burnt Pan, being only the model, and can still fail (albeit with much more leniency).
you can be a coward g pan now that heals teammates the pre rework one only healed you if you hit the sans and before that pre rework it used to heal passively by a lot.
Let’s calm down a bit Tough gloves click does 50 a full charge r does 200 and the barrage does 20 each, little hyper has 1000, I don’t think gloves will win against then
Sorry butg how the hell can you place dusttale frisk SO LOW have you played it legit i stopped playing it for like 69 years because i am a kris main but this last days i decided to start playing it again just for fun but also it lets me win all the time tough i still find kris stronger dusttale underrated as heck his shield is overpowered also like why not using dt soul is something bad just use integrity legit integrity is actually op more jump more speed NEVER use bravery or kindness those are trash and super overrated for dusttale kindness is a joke really people got no brain? do you really want 2 extra rng items in exchange for 4 speed and 15 percent more jump like common whats wrong whit you integrity gives 3 speed + jump and kindness LOWER the speed making it by far slower so yeah dont use better integrity since it gives same speed as kris legit kris an hybrid whit integrity + dt just no extra jump and bravery bad because IT GIVES NO EXTRA JUMP POWER + only 1??? extra speed like 💀that isnt enough i dont care if it gives a dash that isnt consistent enough to keep pressure while dodging also the dmg isnt worth it is better the speed + jump since it will help you on dodge based sans as hp based ones also if you get good rng like getting legendary hero then you have extra dmg tough again kris way better on every phisically way possible still lets see if once you see evaluate the skins you put kris on top also you should say how damn underrated he is like legit cringe people never use it and thinks hes not strong but when they see me playing and brutally beating them then they say KRIS OP KRIS NEEDS NERF 💀KRIS BUSTED like common also i am not a cleaver user at all i dont like play as your self not even a bit i find it SO OVERRATED LIKE WHY PEOPLE USE SO MUCH PLAY AS YOUR SELF ALSO DONT UNDERSTIMATE GLITCHALE it still haves his powerful beam is stronger than you think and also i think you forget to say the combo from swap chara using frisk mode it can do a powerful dash combo like of 7 speed hits on sans and the final one does 90 dmg and the normal ones does 30 sorry if i forget of something i only used swap chara while i was getting long ago the exp for kris obiously AND REMEMBER KRIS BEST CHARA ON ALL THE GAME NO WEAPON NOTHING IS ABOVE KRIS NOTHING. DONT UNDERSTIMATE IT
2:14 Actually HETC's base speed is 16 now, which is the same as any soul (that doesnt give speed up or down) with no morph. and as for rage, it now only nerfs your resistance to 20 since its the min resistance you have, and well the knife wave is actually REALLY good and messy, also the slowing the melee gives to sans being able to stack is just OP if you manage to get 2-3 hits you basically won unless the sans can defend himself greatly
I feel like the rework is very good, and now they are worth 500 wins and a hard to get badge. But people make it out way stronger than it is, no sans is really dead after the slow down stacking unless they don't have a bone zone or anything like force. So maybe like 2 or 3 sanses.
imma put some thoughts here. dusttale frisk. yes its shield takes a sec to recharge but if you are good at minimalizing the unnecessary time its active and actually dodging a bunch of stuff its still great. bravery dustfrisk is scary. about 120ish base dmg. 178 crit and if your healing items are legendary heros you can do about 200 with 1 and 246 with 2. and thats just counting the dmg bravery gives you. and the second life isnt as bad as people say it is. yes you need to be incredible at dodging or flighting smoothing that doesnt have that many moves total or good moves but this goes very far. next thing imma talk about is bone. people say after the nerfs is bad but it really isnt. ive learned kindness bone is incredibly good. new bone is a super aggressive weapon. you get free heals if you attack recovering 30 stam and 12 hp. you have a blaster that can keep the pressure going and a dodge that is great for movement and makes u immune. bone cannot be taken away from you and you can still hit bonewalker if he picks you up. yes you can throw the ketchup but its a waste. doesnt do much and not worth giving up free heals. killer knife. ik its overrated but something that can bump it up a tiny bit is that its not the best with determination due to your second life taking your stability and you need it build it again. kindness makes it a bit easier due to the speed you can get and lets you keep it more. something you forgot about pers scythe is more dmg the lower your hp is. a combo to consider. ballet shoes and kindness. the shoes bassicly negate the slowness due to your sprint being unaffected and you just get free heals. as long as you dont hold wasd during your spin and use one of your spins to get out of danger when your low on stamina this weapon is a nearly unstoppable rush weapon. for about a minute or 2. it cannot play the long game. gpan also has lifesteal btw. and lastly outer trident deserves to be a bit higher. 120 hp. 175 base dmg. an amazing anti camp ability that also gives you 20 speed and very high jump. need i say more? this weapon is terrifying if used right. and something about cleaver. its strong but if you can stall/play keep away then they will die quite easily. if the cleaver cant end the round fast or is dealing with something that has a final attack they are most likly dead. also pers and horror axe is quite the combo allowing you to preserve your hunger quite well and letting you tank hits when using rage. sorry if this is too much i just learned how to use a lot of weapons. yes i play ulc too much.
Help_Tale Chara's rework also made their max resistance 75%, however it can never drop below 20%. Even if Rage is used.
On top of that, their weapon still has a chance to slow the Sans upon hitting them, And now their movement speed was buffed to the average 16.
Awesome vid, consider more in the future(like skins)
4:39 i would like to inform you that perseverance+torn notebook actually adds an extra 10 defense (sure you get 45 with perseverance+cleaver but you also have hp drain)
its really sad how mid outertale chara is, they can cancel jumps but thats about it, the rest of its stats are decent at best which is really sad. they need to buff ot chara.
Weapon cd💀
it needs a rework
As a guy who used to main ot frisk (also Chara but I noticed it sucked) I agree
Ive heard that they are remodeling/reworking every chara team character
Its actually crazy how much has changed in the two months this was made
6:40 being healed by the scythe also buffs the damage you deal
Sans power ain’t bad, it’s a B.
(It would of been a A but it is meh at fighting hp characters sadly.)
With the buffs given recently, he’s a BEAST at destroying stamina from sans. His charged blaster doing around 35 + 200 hp, his M1 doing around 20 stamina and 45 hp, if fully hit) and a support item that you can use to either heal your stamina to max and get 17 hp or slow down sans for 4 seconds (like really slowed)
How you throw ketchup tho bc Ig it lands you win pretty much bc blindness and slowness is broken like it allows whole team to Rush down sans and paired with killer knife its inf slow
The most underrated combo is DT frisk w/ integrity, if you have enough skill you will be able to basically dodge everything and if you get hit the shield will take all the dmg and the phase 2 well... Will dodge more easily... Sometimes
My personal favorite combo is killer knife and integrity. With integrity giving you speed necessary to dodge most things, and killer knife already making you faster, you can easily land hits, back away when necessary, and dodge any and all attacks that you can avoid. The only problem with the combo is that undodgeable attacks are the bane of your existence.
7:40 anyone else notice the dustbelief being toxic in chat?
Wait,where did you find Outer trident in void ?
I can agree with the stick, it’s heavily underrated, when I started a new ULC account I fought a dust swap no upgrades with kindness soul and the stick and got them to the HP phase BY MYSELF and time them out because stick dmg is still dog
Oh empty gun + kindness? You know I didn't even know it was a combo, and it looks like this is my first combo I've ever used because I just loved using an empty gun. Thank you for the information
In the old version of the og ulc killer sans and ot Chara morph was cancer with the kindness scythe.
FINALLY SOMEONE DID A TIER LIST ABOUT THIS
Also, Patience Scythe is underrated.
can you make another video for weapon skins and morph skins next, please?
I'd put HETC at 3rd, it's really op now due to no speed nerf, knife wave being just overpowered, tanky as hell, and slowing on hit, the only flaws are no dash, and a really bad melee reach
Also OT trident is SUPER underrated in this, it can be so op as a generalist weapon due to stars being able to severely punish campers, extreme melee damage, good support with it's buffs, and good sólo potential due to high mobility for having 120 hp
If you didn't know swap charas weapons have their own cds so you can spam swap between the forms for basically half the swing cd it's pretty good. Swap chara is also immune to weapon removal since swapping gives you it back, and against hardtale it's even better because you can have two chara knives without having to swap since you can just swap to regain your weapon then pick the old one back up.
only thing that can stop a gun user is a hp character pretty much, literal hell to play against
I feel like your kinda meat riding the tough gloves Ngl, Time paradox and Btt would absolutely destroy tough gloves users because of the repeated, uncontrollable dash attacks
worn dagger got rework also did you etst it out? if yes then what rank it deserve now?
Been using golden pan and perseverance before this video came out, it's cracked.
But I will try out that empty gun and kindness duo.
I'm an Xbox Player,
so if I can hit my shots, it's neat.
I DEFINETLY agree on Undertale Chara, I remember using it alot before even the Genocidal Update rolled around, it was and will always be a viable, consistent option.
yea i used to main undertale chara and consistently did well with them
i don’t use them much anymore but that’s definitely not because they’re bad or anything, just a preference
@@funkymonkey7252 What about Geno Frisk ?
@@skell6134 i havent been able to unlock them 😭 i’d imagine they’re good tho, the ones ive played against seem pretty good and the save looks very helpful
@@funkymonkey7252 Its... not so hard to unlock them tho,why not do that ? Its just saving 10 times,not so hard
@@skell6134 the sans always dies before then
The problem with dt scythe is that 1st off its mechanic of being good is inconsistent, hit the sans with an attack you need to predict else you miss. 2nd off you lose in phase 2 I could win against a dt scythe with science sans without better gear. It’s entirely countered by camping of which is what 90% of characters do in the game due to the flawed stamina mechanic.
Since it just came out, how good is dull knife? It has a different move set even for a skin though so its not worn dagger.
Have you tried making sans bone and kindness combo mainly for attacker bc MASSIVE ammount of heals + you restore ketchup after few hits also the sideslide wchich gives s (Just do not use blaster unless there is camper or ur top far away) btw how you throw ketchup at sans to make it puddle bc it slows down sans and blind them great long comment
Man stick is s tier fr wat a nice player fr
How is bone bad?????? I’ve been trashing on people with it since the rework
Wonder why toy knife and patience changes the toy knife a bit
Ulc had soul combos but since empty promises update came out only 2 combos remain,
Patience + Toy Knife (Gives slashes that slow sans down, extra dmg)
Perseverance + Torn Notebook (More defense)
I think OT trident should’ve been placed a bit higher on how it basically kills Red in 6 hits. (that’s 210 damage PER HIT.)
my top 3 would be cleaver empty gun and bone. pretty fun weapons
I have some words to state. Fresh Bat isnt that bad;-;, bone/sans power got a rework so it’s honestly decent now, and healing is DT for people who want more health but dont want to spend 8 years doing 1 damage per hit on the Chara boss fight
do dull knife showcase / gameplay
Uf frisk turns out to be pretty good and seems to be way better than you think if paired with integrity (gives like 21 speed)
Undertomb Chara's vampire knife now heals when hitting stamina sans'
Real knife not at S what? Also horror cleaver is not all at its a s weapon but not broken. all of its things are easy to dodge
They did not nerf the no i-frames erase of stamina at sans power, so i would put him to A/S
Fell frisk is really good at Lv 19 with bravery graaaaaaaah1!1!1!
Spear skill spammer :
‘yOu sHoULD pUT SpEAr At S tIeR🤓’
Bone is amazing, have you not seen the rework?
Its generally just easy to punish, coming from someone who used it four times and then got tired of it instantly.
bone is just unbalacead, the gaster blaster take 35 stamina and the bone m1 20
@@seila2822 again bonewalker be like against 3 bone combos: PFFFFFFFF
Ballet shoes still too low in my opinion, i honestly think if used well enough WITH KINDNESS, it could be THE #1 weapon.
Heres the main thing that makes me think ballet shoes is so good, and a massive tip for all 3 ballet shoes users out there:
Ballet shoes running speed is FASTER THAN THE LOBBY SPEED, and does not change no matter what soul you use.
Kindness ballet shoes moves absurdly fast (28 speed, almost twice as fast as the regular walkspeed), and a good ballet shoes can easily keep their sprint up for almost an entire round. Having healing means you can keep yourself alive for much longer, practically never giving sans a chance to breathe. You can also combine this with sea tea (or even multiple) to either make your run EVEN FASTER or make your walking speed good enough to use while you regen sprint, and you can use legendary heroes to buff your already good damage to be even stronger. Being able to float in the air with pirouette can also be really useful for dodging certain attacks, especially with things like last breath or disbelief. Another thing to note is that the hitbox on ballet shoes is preeeetty big, not the biggest but definitely not hard to land while running.
The only real weaknesses for kindness ballet shoes are really strong/spammy sanses or anything with orange soul moves, as they make standing still to regen stamina basically impossible, and kindness ballet shoes regular walk speed is REALLY slow (13 speed...)
What's your opinion on a new sans weapon?
wdym
@@8lFx have u talked about a new or old sans power weapon? Because it got reworked
br the most unfair weapon in the game is either cleaver or real knife
Ok I know it’s just your opinion BUT UF chara at max is pretty good and I don’t understand why some say it’s torture to grind if you grind in low wins you easily get exp and after the first upgrade it can get some wins the healing is pretty good imo you can get 15 hp in the time a kindness can get an item which is pretty good but it can also get a max of 22.5 if your lucky enough I’d say it’s a pretty good chara anyways I know it just your opinion but I just wanted to say what I think about UF frisk you can have your opinion but I’m just saying mine :)
Oh yea I forgot this is an old video I’m pretty new to the game and so I don’t know if it was worse 4 months ago but if it was then I’d probably agree with you
Helptale's speed is the same as Play As Yourself's.
patience knife where(it sucks i just want it to show up)
you never rated dull knife.
Thats a skin
WAIT WHY IS GLITCH 21?! IT CAN BEAT BTT!
yess some one else who knows how to use stick
putting sans power in c? personally, i disagree for the following reasons
sidestep
blaster hand
dt soul
Uh... sorry to say, but the golden pan? Kinda sucks....
It heals teammates, but it only heals 1-3 HP per. And the hitbox is even smaller than regular Burnt Pan, being only the model, and can still fail (albeit with much more leniency).
belive me its op
you can be a coward g pan now that heals teammates the pre rework one only healed you if you hit the sans and before that pre rework it used to heal passively by a lot.
Let’s calm down a bit
Tough gloves click does 50 a full charge r does 200 and the barrage does 20 each, little hyper has 1000, I don’t think gloves will win against then
Little hyper has almost 2k hp 💀
Hi 8lFx!!!
Dusttale frisk is better than chara morph bro?
I maxed uf frisk in public 💀
Ot trident best tbh
ALSO AGAIN TALKING ABOUT CLEAVER ISNT SO STRONG THATS ALL.
Erm… awkwarddd
Bro i can solo win maxed last breath as help_tale chara without dying, and u think she is bad?
stick in S tier,Really?
stick can be usefull only vs hp characters,every thing can be dodged very ez
also u slow down when use menu
also sans power is best vs st characters,with his ability to dodge and shot
the moment you complained about stick being s tier is when i turned off my brain
I disagree
I would say real knife is like a low B tier to high C tier now that it's hitbox is non-existant
ujd is better i fear
Nah not really
You know what? Invalid opinion. Time to track your ip!1!1! 😡
i disagree and i am mad at you
shut up
Sorry butg how the hell can you place dusttale frisk SO LOW have you played it legit i stopped playing it for like 69 years because i am a kris main but this last days i decided to start playing it again just for fun but also it lets me win all the time tough i still find kris stronger dusttale underrated as heck his shield is overpowered also like why not using dt soul is something bad just use integrity legit integrity is actually op more jump more speed NEVER use bravery or kindness those are trash and super overrated for dusttale kindness is a joke really people got no brain? do you really want 2 extra rng items in exchange for 4 speed and 15 percent more jump like common whats wrong whit you integrity gives 3 speed + jump and kindness LOWER the speed making it by far slower so yeah dont use better integrity since it gives same speed as kris legit kris an hybrid whit integrity + dt just no extra jump and bravery bad because IT GIVES NO EXTRA JUMP POWER + only 1??? extra speed like 💀that isnt enough i dont care if it gives a dash that isnt consistent enough to keep pressure while dodging also the dmg isnt worth it is better the speed + jump since it will help you on dodge based sans as hp based ones also if you get good rng like getting legendary hero then you have extra dmg tough again kris way better on every phisically way possible still lets see if once you see evaluate the skins you put kris on top also you should say how damn underrated he is like legit cringe people never use it and thinks hes not strong but when they see me playing and brutally beating them then they say KRIS OP KRIS NEEDS NERF 💀KRIS BUSTED like common also i am not a cleaver user at all i dont like play as your self not even a bit i find it SO OVERRATED LIKE WHY PEOPLE USE SO MUCH PLAY AS YOUR SELF ALSO DONT UNDERSTIMATE GLITCHALE it still haves his powerful beam is stronger than you think and also i think you forget to say the combo from swap chara using frisk mode it can do a powerful dash combo like of 7 speed hits on sans and the final one does 90 dmg and the normal ones does 30 sorry if i forget of something i only used swap chara while i was getting long ago the exp for kris obiously AND REMEMBER KRIS BEST CHARA ON ALL THE GAME NO WEAPON NOTHING IS ABOVE KRIS NOTHING. DONT UNDERSTIMATE IT
bro im not readin allat 😭
Bro got entire Essay that can only be said in few word just because they can't accept everyone has their own opinion