One hundred percent agree with all of your observations and recommendations. AP is being stubborn about the run...Raiders have the pieces for more of a West Coast air attack with Aiden. They don't have the players for a run first approach. Also the defense is not playing with cohesion and the same kind of heart they had last year when AP took over.
Sunday i really put on the players, we did not show up anywhere on the field, yes coaching needs to get better but they had nobody to really hang their hat on that day
The change will come when AOC gets the start. He’s able to hit his targets & releases the ball much quicker which will be the difference. Minshew is not a starting QB.
There was one positive from yesterday game, JPJ looked great, he was giving quick double to help James then ramming the edge rusher while hes engaged with Glaze, thats how you kick ass as an oline. Punish the dline with blindside hits like other teams do to Maxx every game.
When Adams talks about getting into a good rhythm, he's talking about AOC, because all of the plays look like broken plays when Minshew is QB. He can't read, doesn't throw when the guys are open and dances around until he fails. I can't believe this isn't obvious to Pierce because it's obvious to me.
Let’s be honest nation we are not a good team 😔 we have no depth no pass rush no RB no O line We didn’t loose to the worst team in the league the panthers just beat the worst team in the league . We ARE the get right team for everyone in the NFL
AOC was suppose to start week 1 since he had that chemistry before Minshew got he job. Hopefully week 3 we make the change. Plus the RB need to Alexander Mattison. Dude a beast on the screen.
When Davante Adams says” we need rhythm” He is completely talking about the quarterback situation The one thing that you did not mention in your podcast about Aiden O’Connell’s play yesterday, was the fact that he did not have the luxury of being able to run the ball. He had to throw every down to try to get a touchdown !! AND HE STILL LOOKED GOOD !!!! Sure he might have taken a sack but come on here !!! The Defense knew that he was going to throw the ball and throw the ball only !! and they had the luxury of pinning their ears back on Defense !!!!
I think Antonio Pierce is in a really tough spot right now He NOT ONLY needs to put Aiden O’Connell in as quarterback next week But they also need a win against the Browns to get the locker room back and get the team back on track again ANTONIO PIERCE SHOULD NOT HAVE FLIP-FLOPPED ON AIDAN O’CONNELL !!! He should not have done that !! Bad mistake !!!
Bro I'm agree almost in all statements you made except in Marcus Epps , for me he was disastrous yesterday All the rest I'm super agree If we loose I prefer to loose developing O'Connel
💯% agree with you. I usually do. Pierce does need to exert himself as I think he was kind of talked into Minshew. The season can be salvaged but act now and bench the guy who is at best a backup in this league. It sounded like you were disappointed in the decision and it really knocked the air out of my sails to start the season I had high hopes for. Stop the madness!!!
Sometimes, depending on your rosters strength, the opposite can be true. Since the raiders are not having success running the ball, due mostly to the o-line. I would definitely like to see if they can have success by switching strategy just a little. More first down passes might help the run game. Who knows.
The "aiden is a statue in the pocket" argument is dead because obviously he can throw on the run. But i think we need address our oline immediately. But like adams said "RHYTHM" AND WHO HAS RHYTHM WITH THE RECEIVERS?
Watch how the panthers pass rush minshew. They all just push forward and keep their gaps covered. They just played the run because they didn’t have to speed up his internal clock. They didn’t respect him to beat them with his arm. Fast forward to when O’Connell stepped in at quarterback and you’ll start seeing actual pass rush moves. With minshew at qb, they don’t have to pick whether they’re rushing the qb or playing the run. It’s not the only thing wrong with the run game, but it’s a big part of
Look man I've been saying no rhythm since preseason with minshew and what does Davante say is the biggest thing holding the offense back "rhythm". It's clear as day, obvious, a test with a cheat sheet it's so simple to see. How that man got that starting job I will never understand. The only reason AP gets a pass on that is because he looked pissed announcing it at that video conference, so I know that was getsy and telescos call more than his
They think Zamir is all the sudden going to break one and come out of this funk he’s been in and start balling like our last Franchise RB they let walk out the door. There have been multiple mistakes made this year starting with that one. Now they, Telesco, AP and Getsy regret it I bet? They should have kept the band together and not changed anything from what they were doing at the end of last season. They broke that rhythm and connection. Now Getsy and AP want to run different schemes after benching Aiden and breaking up the band. AP is really making horrible decisions in every area except wanting more than what he’s getting..
Raider D I want to share my opinion regarding AOC. He was under constant scrutiny all off-season and training camp to the point he may have been second-guessing himself and making more mistakes because he was too careful and stiff. With his benching and not playing the first part of the season the pressure is totally off and he is no longer under unrealistic scrutiny. I think he has had a chance to work on improving as an NFL QB plus he is having the chance to watch an experienced Pro like Garner Prepare. I think this has all benefited him. He went out there doing his thing and just looked fantastic.playing. I hope the Raiders can use him properly and have a decent rest of their season.
I’d stick to my theory that someone is usurping the HC job.Maybe his supposed to be advisers(ex HC’s in his staff), or anybody. Bring back Bo Hardegree( AOC thrived on JM’s abbreviated playbook).
Seeing the contrast between AOCs bullet passes and GMs wobbly throws was obvious. Not surprising some players had the ball hit off their hands when they're not used to that.
The switch to AOC should be now before Raiders have to play Steelers and Chiefs. Let AOC get his feet wet against Browns and Broncos. I like Alexander Mattison screen run when he can dominate it. Might as well look for a RB in the free agency open market.
So stupid. A switch like that is palpable and shows no confidence at all. Another fairweather fan---great when we're winning but hypercritical when not. Gardner is being used as the scapegoat. He should NOT have been benched after 1 interception. I've never seen anything like this.
@@bookwormdoe1522 Plus I'm a way more realist fan than you ever be since AOC was drafted by us Raiders. Minshew was drafted by the Jaguars. AOC earned his starting qb even through the bs he dealt with Josh McDaniel. Also lead the team with better wins than Mishew have all season. Minshew only won the job because he a veteran who is trash like Jimmy G was last season. I also want Stuart Schweigert's Purdue qb AOC to succussed.
It looked like when AOC came in we abandoned the run game and went to a 2minute style offense. Maybe we need to go to up tempo style? We know you hate Minshew but this could help either of our backup quarterbacks I think..
That, last minute of 4th quarter. Raider D. It’s just basically decoy, #12 is bench for life. Ohh well raider D. I’m definitely not gonna put my heads up every single game. Good bye RaiderNation. I’m still subscribed to your TH-cam channel D. Forever. You and Hondo Carpenter Sports Illustrated..
To me offensive line play is the biggest problem. Teams know we can't run. Doesn't matter who the QB is if the oline is crappy. Second problem is tackling. Raiders don't tackle well....that's on coaching. Ps...GET REDDICK!!
That loss would not have felt any better if it was the Chiefs or ANY good team. But to give a team just their 3rd win in their last 19 games is the height of embarrassment. My observation; Bryce Young (5'10") and Minshew (6'1") are both nervous in the pocket, seemingly don't see the field well, jump around and leave the pocket too soon, throw up prayers and take sacks, and generally make their O-line look bad. Dalton (6"2" and O'Connell (6"3') are both taller, stand in the pocket, see the field better, get the ball out quickly, and make the O-line look better.
I agree that aoc should start and that APs job can be due solely to his qb choice. He shouldve stuck with his guy. I disagree that minshew is a bad qb. Our line is bad at run blocking and inconsistent overall. Gardner hasn't had great chances to flash his play making ability and has still done so a few times. My thing is Gardner has always had a pretty good running back. Wasn't it fournette in Jax and Taylor in indi. He has no run game here and aiden has a cleaner and faster throw to get out swing routes or screen plays
Good QBs just need a Receiver to get a step and they are open, the great ones half a step, thats why Adams was always open in GreenBay, with Minshew weak arm lack of accuracy our receivers need 3 yards of separation before he see them as open.
Hear me out on this Raider D. I've been a raider fan 50+ years. Is our o line terrible? Yes, but it also falls to the QB on some of the problems. Look at every single run play this year, and look at how Minshew hands the ball off. He holds it out there for the whole defense to see from the moment it's snapped. Now go look at Aiden during the chiefs game and some others. He takes the snap and drops back like a pass and snaps the ball into the running back. Just that slight of hand freezes the linebackers just enough to give the o line a chance to blow open some holes. The o line isn't much different than last year's line. Also Aiden can read the defense better because he can actually see over the line and get the ball to where it needs to be quicker with more zip thereby the line doesn't need to protect as long. Then when you put the two together you'll get your chances down field with play action. Will Aiden get sacked? Sure he'll get some, but it's those subtle nuances that can make our o line look just a tad better. Plus I believe the players respond more to Aiden and go all out for him, especially Devante. Hopefully Crosby can get right with his ankle and Wilkinson can get going. Really sucks about Epps and Koonce though. Anyway, keep up the good work
What answer do you want? He said the coaches had a meeting and they haven't even had the players meeting yet. What answer can he give you if them team hasn't even been informed?
I think everyone needs to calm downs bit. Nobody is calling for AP to be fired. But I agree 100% we aren’t a run first team and that’s starts with getting Bowers going early and often. AP knows and understands that you need to have a run game to compete in this league, it’s not an unfixable situation, the line needs to improve and Mattison needs to be RB1. It’s a tough situation when you don’t have to that true number one QB, but I will continue to say it, Minshew is a better QB than AOC, not because I don’t like AOC it’s because our line can’t protect, and AOC can’t out run anyone or keep the play alive, he will still have growing pains even if he gets the start later this season. The real problem is Getzy by a long shot! He needs to be more aggressive and creative with a multiple TE set, he’s not putting Minshew in a good position to get into a rhythm. I’m not worried about the Defense, they had a bad game, it’s going to happen, the offense needed to pick up that slack. I would love to add anyone that can help Max and this team. There just wasn’t any energy at all. They’ll address it and fix it. RN4L
So many issues and bad dominos from the offseason that has gotten us to this point. It's absolutely infuriating 1) What the hell happened with Kliff Kingsbury 2) Hiring Luke Getsy prevented us from possibly getting Justin Fields 3) As much as I like Brock Bowers, still .....fuck the Falcons for taking Penix
The media, even our own, is no help when they say we found our Identity, or when we beat the ravens, already they start talking playoffs, it's a jinx, cause the game after they do that,we lay an egg... Stop doing that please
@@bernandoturner4840110%. This is #12 offensive teams. Not #15 question where were you last season. If you think #12 is not the right guy, that’s on you bro.
3 games. If people believe that’s enough time to come to the conclusion that someone needs to go then we’re doomed already. The amount of Raiders fans saying this today is insane. 3 games…. lol good lord people
Minshew is not the main problem. The run game is. The O'Connell snaps in this game were in garbage time. Also Minshew didn't give up 36 points- the defense stunk yesterday. Whoever decided to run the ball on 3rd and 7 down 14-7 in the second quarter (not even in field goal range) should be fired.
It is Minshew fault. When your missing wide open wrs, turning ball over and NOT CONSISTENT, he is the problem. Raiders have gotten off to 3 slow starts. Been trailing almost every qtr. Stop making excuses for Minshew
@@Phoguy24 look at the Raider TH-camrs who still don't want Aidan to start. They more afraid of being wrong and getting ridiculed than doing the right thing.
@elsalsero417 more like they hate him because he ain't mobile. They keep on saying that minshew give us the best chance to win, but we aren't winning 😂
Catching up on my sleep after I got up at 3am to watch that garbage! Fan since 69 but this team in the last 20 years is not worthy of Raider Nation. Cheers!
You couldn't be more wrong about AOC. AOC would beat Kyler Murray in the 40 yard dash... On the day of Kyler's ACL surgery. Look I'm a realistic Raider fan. I look at this season right after we finished the draft as, we'll be mid at best or in the hunt for a top 10 draft slot next year. I agree AOC is the better on the current roster option at QB. Mainly because he's a decent unknown with potential. Raiders don't have the roster to make a playoff push/championship. So, trade Adams to make sure we get our QB in next year's draft. Adams is frustrated anyway. If we're realistic about AP, he has to ensure his players are going to be high effort. Somebody has to be sacrificed to get the attention of the team. Sun Tzu, had a story about creating a personal female guard for the Ruler. The Ruler said it couldn't be done. Sun Tzu gave the women the first order and they just laughed it off. He cut one of the female's head off. The remaining females snapped to with the next order given. AP is a veteran player turned coach. He knows what a locker room will respond to by experience as a player.
Our defense was not home our online wasn't present Devonte dropped passes at this point idc what we do to win..... this loss falls on ap as much as the rest of our team
Without a defense we’re screwed. As long as they roll with Minshew the offense will look like enemic zombies. There is no spark at all and they look out of sync the last three games. We can’t afford to lose Maxx and nothing out of Wilkins, Tyree, Snowden, Robinson and with Koonce out for the season and expect to win. Minshew has turned the ball over five times in three games. Aiden played his last 5 games with one interception. AP is going to hang himself unless he starts Aiden. We can’t go 1-3 out of the gate and expect to make the playoffs. Not a chance in hell!
I believe Getsy and AP are banging heads right now. Getsy wants to dink n dunk around the scrimmage line and AP wants a RB like JJ back. He doesn’t even trust the three RBs he has to get two yards? 4-2 and he punts it? Minshew is also or should be in the dog house because his play has been pure shit for the most part. He’s had a quarter n a half of good play but the problem is we have played 12 quarters and he’s turning the ball over to the tune of five times in three games? Hello?
Its shakeup time, fire Getsy his scheme suxx, Minshew has weak little arm so he needs receivers wiiiide open, thats why hes holding the ball and running for no reason.
GREAT TAKES BROTHER ☠️🏴☠️🫡 My thoughts exactly except. Benching Minchew since the O-Line is so bad. Plus ➕️ add OC in Gesby I'm so courious in AP business decisions..... which player, players and or Gesby?? 🤔
fans wanted foles when he got healthy than was worse than Minshew. Maybe Davante will play better with AOC because he was terrible with Minshew. Many drops and routes run incorrectly. Pittman never maid any drops and ran the routes correctly. I could be wrong but AOC is going to struggle with this offensive line.
Pierce should never have been hired as head coach, you can thank Crosby for that. Minshew should never have been named the starting QB, AOC is the better option every day all day! And Maxx Crosby is a stat queen, he sucks in crunch time! You can run on him and he gives up on plays too soon!
Raider fan here like a guy that saw us when we were the real Raiders. You guys need to wise up winning is a pattern. You can get excited after we won one playoff game maybe no not even then. Get excited after were in the playoffs 2 years in a row and until the we sck like sck rotten eggs. You guys dont understand Committment to Excellence cause you never saw it ever.
Did it ever cross your mind that maybe Minshew is not getting rid of the ball quick enough. Have you not seen all the wide open receivers Minshew has not seen.
You have concerns coming out of your arse. No OL, no running game, no QB, a looker room that's ready to implode, an HC that probably lost said LR, an OC that can't call plays, but yeah just that one concern is all you have. 😂😂😂😂😂 You had a playoff team in 21, and you pissed it away. McDaniels was the answer and Carr had to go. That will set you back years. If Davis had some balls Gruden would still be there. As long as he is in charge you will never win.
aoc isnt the amswer either. aoc is a statue n with r o line aoc is screwed. least minshew is mobile. watch aoc is gna do worse either way raiders need use good money n buy a qb n draft a qb. let aoc b 3rd qb. getsy is tje main problem o line is the 2nd problem. ap is the 3rd problem..mark davis nees 2 sell 2 some 1 who cares n isnt there 4 the spotlight
Matteson should be RB1
One hundred percent agree with all of your observations and recommendations. AP is being stubborn about the run...Raiders have the pieces for more of a West Coast air attack with Aiden. They don't have the players for a run first approach. Also the defense is not playing with cohesion and the same kind of heart they had last year when AP took over.
No defense, no offense, and the whole coaching staff couldn't solve the Panthers Offense game . Panthers totally out played Raiders squad.
Sunday i really put on the players, we did not show up anywhere on the field, yes coaching needs to get better but they had nobody to really hang their hat on that day
The change will come when AOC gets the start. He’s able to hit his targets & releases the ball much quicker which will be the difference. Minshew is not a starting QB.
Not with Getsky
agreed
U mean the qb that didn't complete a pass for 3 quarters in one game .Dude almost threw a pic also just the db dropped it Aoc wont do better .
O'Connell can't help that Getsy playbook it's like Josh McDaniel's just left his behind for Luke to implement
Aoc sucks
There was one positive from yesterday game, JPJ looked great, he was giving quick double to help James then ramming the edge rusher while hes engaged with Glaze, thats how you kick ass as an oline. Punish the dline with blindside hits like other teams do to Maxx every game.
theres no positives none zero to this team
Yeah, you know what... you're right. Haasan might be the answer, I stand corrected
When Adams talks about getting into a good rhythm, he's talking about AOC, because all of the plays look like broken plays when Minshew is QB. He can't read, doesn't throw when the guys are open and dances around until he fails. I can't believe this isn't obvious to Pierce because it's obvious to me.
Tom is likely the reason Uncle Rico is starting for the Raiders.
That's b.s, excuse me, but you're nothing but a fairweather fan.
START AIDAN... You are speaking FACTS.
RAIDERS OFFENSE NEEDS A POCKET QB WHO CAN ANTICIPATE PASSES, ACCURATE, WHO CAN THROW HIS WR OPEN.
Let’s be honest nation we are not a good team 😔 we have no depth no pass rush no RB no O line
We didn’t loose to the worst team in the league the panthers just beat the worst team in the league .
We ARE the get right team for everyone in the NFL
AOC was suppose to start week 1 since he had that chemistry before Minshew got he job. Hopefully week 3 we make the change. Plus the RB need to Alexander Mattison. Dude a beast on the screen.
Good analysis D 🫡
Thanks
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They're not playing for this quarterback. O'connell need to come in like he did last year and take us to the playoffs.
When Davante Adams says” we need rhythm”
He is completely talking about the quarterback situation
The one thing that you did not mention in your podcast about Aiden O’Connell’s play yesterday,
was the fact that he did not have the luxury of being able to run the ball. He had to throw every down to try to get a touchdown !!
AND HE STILL LOOKED GOOD !!!!
Sure he might have taken a sack but come on here !!! The Defense knew that he was going to throw the ball and throw the ball only !! and they had the luxury of pinning their ears back on Defense !!!!
I think Antonio Pierce is in a really tough spot right now
He NOT ONLY needs to put Aiden O’Connell in as quarterback next week
But they also need a win against the Browns to get the locker room back and get the team back on track again
ANTONIO PIERCE SHOULD NOT HAVE FLIP-FLOPPED ON AIDAN O’CONNELL !!!
He should not have done that !!
Bad mistake !!!
Bro I'm agree almost in all statements you made except in Marcus Epps , for me he was disastrous yesterday
All the rest I'm super agree
If we loose I prefer to loose developing O'Connel
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Gets the ball out faster.
yep
💯% agree with you. I usually do. Pierce does need to exert himself as I think he was kind of talked into Minshew. The season can be salvaged but act now and bench the guy who is at best a backup in this league. It sounded like you were disappointed in the decision and it really knocked the air out of my sails to start the season I had high hopes for. Stop the madness!!!
*AP & Lou...woof! woof!* 🐕
Play action is the KEY...even I know that!
Yes AOC needs to be the QB going forward, we are a passing team. until we get a o-line and good RB. we have the best receiving core in the league
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Maybe this guy should be our coach. He’s smart!
Thanks
That's why we should come out passing
You have to run the ball to get your receivers open. It's still early don't give up. Lets Go Raiders.
Sometimes, depending on your rosters strength, the opposite can be true. Since the raiders are not having success running the ball, due mostly to the o-line. I would definitely like to see if they can have success by switching strategy just a little. More first down passes might help the run game. Who knows.
On defense I blame more the lack of pressure and run stopping, those corners need help up front also.
The "aiden is a statue in the pocket" argument is dead because obviously he can throw on the run. But i think we need address our oline immediately. But like adams said "RHYTHM" AND WHO HAS RHYTHM WITH THE RECEIVERS?
I don't even understand why people mention that. Jared Goff has less mobility than AOC & wins a lot of games. We need to start AOC
Our receivers are so much better than our running backs that we SHOULD be a pass happy team with an accurate QB like AOC.
Misscue is a backup at best, not really surprised the Raiders had a massive letdown after upsetting Baltimore last week!
Minchew is a backup QB that's it
agreed
Agreed also Getsy is a high school coordinator there's more innovative coordinators in college
Watch how the panthers pass rush minshew. They all just push forward and keep their gaps covered. They just played the run because they didn’t have to speed up his internal clock. They didn’t respect him to beat them with his arm. Fast forward to when O’Connell stepped in at quarterback and you’ll start seeing actual pass rush moves. With minshew at qb, they don’t have to pick whether they’re rushing the qb or playing the run. It’s not the only thing wrong with the run game, but it’s a big part of
Look man I've been saying no rhythm since preseason with minshew and what does Davante say is the biggest thing holding the offense back "rhythm". It's clear as day, obvious, a test with a cheat sheet it's so simple to see. How that man got that starting job I will never understand. The only reason AP gets a pass on that is because he looked pissed announcing it at that video conference, so I know that was getsy and telescos call more than his
I agree with you💯
I agree on AOC! LETS GO!!
Thank you RDP. I'll just have to sit back and stfu cuz you said everything as it is.
They think Zamir is all the sudden going to break one and come out of this funk he’s been in and start balling like our last Franchise RB they let walk out the door. There have been multiple mistakes made this year starting with that one. Now they, Telesco, AP and Getsy regret it I bet? They should have kept the band together and not changed anything from what they were doing at the end of last season. They broke that rhythm and connection. Now Getsy and AP want to run different schemes after benching Aiden and breaking up the band. AP is really making horrible decisions in every area except wanting more than what he’s getting..
Aiden would get killed with this line
That is a very true statement!!..Who's in charge of the O-line!!.. Fire his ass and get a good O-line coach..
I agree with everything you say and O’Connell way better quarterback and should be the starter.
Raider D I want to share my opinion regarding AOC. He was under constant scrutiny all off-season and training camp to the point he may have been second-guessing himself and making more mistakes because he was too careful and stiff. With his benching and not playing the first part of the season the pressure is totally off and he is no longer under unrealistic scrutiny. I think he has had a chance to work on improving as an NFL QB plus he is having the chance to watch an experienced Pro like Garner Prepare. I think this has all benefited him. He went out there doing his thing and just looked fantastic.playing. I hope the Raiders can use him properly and have a decent rest of their season.
I’d stick to my theory that someone is usurping the HC job.Maybe his supposed to be advisers(ex HC’s in his staff), or anybody. Bring back Bo Hardegree( AOC thrived on JM’s abbreviated playbook).
Agreed
Seeing the contrast between AOCs bullet passes and GMs wobbly throws was obvious. Not surprising some players had the ball hit off their hands when they're not used to that.
The switch to AOC should be now before Raiders have to play Steelers and Chiefs. Let AOC get his feet wet against Browns and Broncos. I like Alexander Mattison screen run when he can dominate it. Might as well look for a RB in the free agency open market.
So stupid. A switch like that is palpable and shows no confidence at all. Another fairweather fan---great when we're winning but hypercritical when not. Gardner is being used as the scapegoat. He should NOT have been benched after 1 interception. I've never seen anything like this.
@@bookwormdoe1522 Your face is stupid
@@bookwormdoe1522 Plus I'm a way more realist fan than you ever be since AOC was drafted by us Raiders. Minshew was drafted by the Jaguars. AOC earned his starting qb even through the bs he dealt with Josh McDaniel. Also lead the team with better wins than Mishew have all season. Minshew only won the job because he a veteran who is trash like Jimmy G was last season. I also want Stuart Schweigert's Purdue qb AOC to succussed.
@@bookwormdoe1522 Call al you want since I am not out here yelling fire AP after 3 weeks like some of y'all.
@@bookwormdoe1522 It not about having confidence it about realizing who is the better qb, and who deserves the qb job more.
All 3.
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good stuff
It looked like when AOC came in we abandoned the run game and went to a 2minute style offense. Maybe we need to go to up tempo style? We know you hate Minshew but this could help either of our backup quarterbacks I think..
That, last minute of 4th quarter. Raider D. It’s just basically decoy, #12 is bench for life. Ohh well raider D. I’m definitely not gonna put my heads up every single game. Good bye RaiderNation. I’m still subscribed to your TH-cam channel D. Forever. You and Hondo Carpenter Sports Illustrated..
To me offensive line play is the biggest problem. Teams know we can't run. Doesn't matter who the QB is if the oline is crappy. Second problem is tackling. Raiders don't tackle well....that's on coaching.
Ps...GET REDDICK!!
I appreciate the love but you sound like you have some playoff hope for the season still here man. lol.
You have a terrible mindset
That loss would not have felt any better if it was the Chiefs or ANY good team. But to give a team just their 3rd win in their last 19 games is the height of embarrassment. My observation; Bryce Young (5'10") and Minshew (6'1") are both nervous in the pocket, seemingly don't see the field well, jump around and leave the pocket too soon, throw up prayers and take sacks, and generally make their O-line look bad. Dalton (6"2" and O'Connell (6"3') are both taller, stand in the pocket, see the field better, get the ball out quickly, and make the O-line look better.
I agree that aoc should start and that APs job can be due solely to his qb choice. He shouldve stuck with his guy. I disagree that minshew is a bad qb. Our line is bad at run blocking and inconsistent overall. Gardner hasn't had great chances to flash his play making ability and has still done so a few times. My thing is Gardner has always had a pretty good running back. Wasn't it fournette in Jax and Taylor in indi. He has no run game here and aiden has a cleaner and faster throw to get out swing routes or screen plays
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Good QBs just need a Receiver to get a step and they are open, the great ones half a step, thats why Adams was always open in GreenBay, with Minshew weak arm lack of accuracy our receivers need 3 yards of separation before he see them as open.
Hear me out on this Raider D. I've been a raider fan 50+ years. Is our o line terrible? Yes, but it also falls to the QB on some of the problems. Look at every single run play this year, and look at how Minshew hands the ball off. He holds it out there for the whole defense to see from the moment it's snapped. Now go look at Aiden during the chiefs game and some others. He takes the snap and drops back like a pass and snaps the ball into the running back. Just that slight of hand freezes the linebackers just enough to give the o line a chance to blow open some holes. The o line isn't much different than last year's line. Also Aiden can read the defense better because he can actually see over the line and get the ball to where it needs to be quicker with more zip thereby the line doesn't need to protect as long. Then when you put the two together you'll get your chances down field with play action. Will Aiden get sacked? Sure he'll get some, but it's those subtle nuances that can make our o line look just a tad better. Plus I believe the players respond more to Aiden and go all out for him, especially Devante. Hopefully Crosby can get right with his ankle and Wilkinson can get going. Really sucks about Epps and Koonce though. Anyway, keep up the good work
Agreed and thanks
Nah I've learned to expect this,
No answers in the presser ....just excuses 😢
What answer do you want? He said the coaches had a meeting and they haven't even had the players meeting yet. What answer can he give you if them team hasn't even been informed?
Getsy and minchew gotta go!
yep
@@RaiderDpodcastif Tom Telesco is still around as a future GM. Not gonna happen. According to Mark Davis.
I think everyone needs to calm downs bit. Nobody is calling for AP to be fired. But I agree 100% we aren’t a run first team and that’s starts with getting Bowers going early and often.
AP knows and understands that you need to have a run game to compete in this league, it’s not an unfixable situation, the line needs to improve and Mattison needs to be RB1.
It’s a tough situation when you don’t have to that true number one QB, but I will continue to say it, Minshew is a better QB than AOC, not because I don’t like AOC it’s because our line can’t protect, and AOC can’t out run anyone or keep the play alive, he will still have growing pains even if he gets the start later this season.
The real problem is Getzy by a long shot! He needs to be more aggressive and creative with a multiple TE set, he’s not putting Minshew in a good position to get into a rhythm.
I’m not worried about the Defense, they had a bad game, it’s going to happen, the offense needed to pick up that slack. I would love to add anyone that can help Max and this team.
There just wasn’t any energy at all.
They’ll address it and fix it.
RN4L
AOC was slinging it tho best I've seen his arm look
Go with the hot hand
So many issues and bad dominos from the offseason that has gotten us to this point. It's absolutely infuriating
1) What the hell happened with Kliff Kingsbury
2) Hiring Luke Getsy prevented us from possibly getting Justin Fields
3) As much as I like Brock Bowers, still .....fuck the Falcons for taking Penix
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The media, even our own, is no help when they say we found our Identity, or when we beat the ravens, already they start talking playoffs, it's a jinx, cause the game after they do that,we lay an egg... Stop doing that please
Pass first run second
You are not right by starting aiden won’t last because of the offense line is worse than k last year I hope you are right
Getsy is a liability facts
We got exposed
I heard wilkins had to hurt knee from practice
I got 2 words for you (jayden danials) ...bad o line no stars no problem.
It takes 2 to tango for a trade to take place.
Manning. Give me the QB from Nebraska. Tho he is just a freshman
Be waiting
@@RaiderDpodcast I'm hoping Aidan is the guy. Get more playmakers like they got Bowers for this offense.
I'm not too high on next year's QBs.
Instead of trying so hard to find who to blame let’s try and figure out how to fix this mess we’re in!
Pretty sure I gave the fix in the video but if not check out the vid I dropped today
Black hat is back on ay D 😢
Im in batman mode lol
Adams looks like he already checkout, no QB, no RB, OLine is a mess. Gesty gotta go
Must be nice to have an o- line
You cant say its the personel this rb and ol did it last year. Ol is heavily based on coaching
How was White able to gain nearly 400 yards in the last four games of last season? Who was on the OL then? What has changed?
Could be a number of reasons. Either way he's not an elite RB. Barely average
I left a few comments & it looks like the channel moderated them. Great Raider content but if you're not able to leave your opinion... ✌️ outta here
Minishew we lost the game if we had AOC the raiders would have won
Neither win with that type of offensive play calling. Getsky is why we lost
Not
@@bernandoturner4840110%. This is #12 offensive teams. Not #15 question where were you last season. If you think #12 is not the right guy, that’s on you bro.
*AP is toooo stubborn to change.*
Trade Adams to Rodgers for Ridick
So dumb. Riddick wants a new big deal it would be smarter to get koonce on a cheaper price it and wait a year
3 games. If people believe that’s enough time to come to the conclusion that someone needs to go then we’re doomed already. The amount of Raiders fans saying this today is insane. 3 games…. lol good lord people
AOC releases the ball way faster
O line stinks all around, can’t open holes and can’t pass block.
Minshew is not the main problem. The run game is. The O'Connell snaps in this game were in garbage time. Also Minshew didn't give up 36 points- the defense stunk yesterday. Whoever decided to run the ball on 3rd and 7 down 14-7 in the second quarter (not even in field goal range) should be fired.
It is Minshew fault. When your missing wide open wrs, turning ball over and NOT CONSISTENT, he is the problem.
Raiders have gotten off to 3 slow starts. Been trailing almost every qtr. Stop making excuses for Minshew
Dude what games are you watching? Minshew is not seeing wide open receivers every game. Has a slow release & weaker arm than AOC
@elsalsero417 don't forget about his bad decision and when pocket collapsed he doesn't step up instead he run into a sack 😂
@@Phoguy24 look at the Raider TH-camrs who still don't want Aidan to start. They more afraid of being wrong and getting ridiculed than doing the right thing.
@elsalsero417 more like they hate him because he ain't mobile. They keep on saying that minshew give us the best chance to win, but we aren't winning 😂
Catching up on my sleep after I got up at 3am to watch that garbage! Fan since 69 but this team in the last 20 years is not worthy of Raider Nation. Cheers!
B.S. Getsy will be gone way before week 11 if this crap continues.
Who cares I’m done this craps
You couldn't be more wrong about AOC. AOC would beat Kyler Murray in the 40 yard dash... On the day of Kyler's ACL surgery. Look I'm a realistic Raider fan. I look at this season right after we finished the draft as, we'll be mid at best or in the hunt for a top 10 draft slot next year. I agree AOC is the better on the current roster option at QB. Mainly because he's a decent unknown with potential. Raiders don't have the roster to make a playoff push/championship. So, trade Adams to make sure we get our QB in next year's draft. Adams is frustrated anyway. If we're realistic about AP, he has to ensure his players are going to be high effort. Somebody has to be sacrificed to get the attention of the team. Sun Tzu, had a story about creating a personal female guard for the Ruler. The Ruler said it couldn't be done. Sun Tzu gave the women the first order and they just laughed it off. He cut one of the female's head off. The remaining females snapped to with the next order given. AP is a veteran player turned coach. He knows what a locker room will respond to by experience as a player.
Our defense was not home our online wasn't present Devonte dropped passes at this point idc what we do to win..... this loss falls on ap as much as the rest of our team
Without a defense we’re screwed. As long as they roll with Minshew the offense will look like enemic zombies. There is no spark at all and they look out of sync the last three games. We can’t afford to lose Maxx and nothing out of Wilkins, Tyree, Snowden, Robinson and with Koonce out for the season and expect to win. Minshew has turned the ball over five times in three games. Aiden played his last 5 games with one interception. AP is going to hang himself unless he starts Aiden. We can’t go 1-3 out of the gate and expect to make the playoffs. Not a chance in hell!
I believe Getsy and AP are banging heads right now. Getsy wants to dink n dunk around the scrimmage line and AP wants a RB like JJ back. He doesn’t even trust the three RBs he has to get two yards? 4-2 and he punts it? Minshew is also or should be in the dog house because his play has been pure shit for the most part. He’s had a quarter n a half of good play but the problem is we have played 12 quarters and he’s turning the ball over to the tune of five times in three games? Hello?
@@R8Rnation2769I blame this whole garbage with Tom Telesco coz he decided to start #15 over #12. GM definitely out coach AP.
Its shakeup time, fire Getsy his scheme suxx, Minshew has weak little arm so he needs receivers wiiiide open, thats why hes holding the ball and running for no reason.
Disfunctional organization isnt going anywhere till they bring back Gruden
GREAT TAKES BROTHER ☠️🏴☠️🫡
My thoughts exactly except. Benching Minchew since the O-Line is so bad. Plus ➕️ add OC in Gesby
I'm so courious in AP business decisions..... which player, players and or Gesby?? 🤔
luke getsy is the problem. he was the peoblem in chicago n now with vegas. mark davis knows how 2 choose loosers
Start AOC
fans wanted foles when he got healthy than was worse than Minshew. Maybe Davante will play better with AOC because he was terrible with Minshew. Many drops and routes run incorrectly. Pittman never maid any drops and ran the routes correctly. I could be wrong but AOC is going to struggle with this offensive line.
Why are we all pretending that the raiders are even good??? No qb, no rb, no o line, over rated defense, no real coach???? 5 wins max this year.
Over rated defense ha you're funny. Most of our star defensive players are hurt.
Pierce should never have been hired as head coach, you can thank Crosby for that. Minshew should never have been named the starting QB, AOC is the better option every day all day! And Maxx Crosby is a stat queen, he sucks in crunch time! You can run on him and he gives up on plays too soon!
start dj glaze and j p j
Raider fan here like a guy that saw us when we were the real Raiders. You guys need to wise up winning is a pattern. You can get excited after we won one playoff game maybe no not even then. Get excited after were in the playoffs 2 years in a row and until the we sck like sck rotten eggs. You guys dont understand Committment to Excellence cause you never saw it ever.
Raiders need to trade for a qb both thier qbs are hot trash... Minchew is better than AOC
The reason Minshew is starting is because he is mobile and we have a bad offensive line.
Did it ever cross your mind that maybe Minshew is not getting rid of the ball quick enough. Have you not seen all the wide open receivers Minshew has not seen.
You have concerns coming out of your arse. No OL, no running game, no QB, a looker room that's ready to implode, an HC that probably lost said LR, an OC that can't call plays, but yeah just that one concern is all you have. 😂😂😂😂😂
You had a playoff team in 21, and you pissed it away. McDaniels was the answer and Carr had to go. That will set you back years.
If Davis had some balls Gruden would still be there. As long as he is in charge you will never win.
Dang
Trade Devante for Hassan
AOC
agreed
aoc isnt the amswer either. aoc is a statue n with r o line aoc is screwed. least minshew is mobile. watch aoc is gna do worse
either way raiders need use good money n buy a qb n draft a qb. let aoc b 3rd qb. getsy is tje main problem
o line is the 2nd problem. ap is the 3rd problem..mark davis nees 2 sell 2 some 1 who cares n isnt there 4 the spotlight
The OC needs to go