I idolized the Piss Drunx as a kid and thought they were so cool…. Now I’m 35 trying to relearn how to skate basically from scratch and 2 years sober. It is great seeing most of the old pros I looked up to also in recovery.
Keep it up. Nobody has to be perfect, but all those dudes cleaned up. It means something. There's more than seeing how fucked up you can get, and it doesn't make you a better skateboarder, or a cooler human being
This is same story for me and most of my friends who used to be prospects to become pro... All recovering life after drugs or alcohol abuse, some dead and some are living in the streets and would not even remember me
This is a much needed video, we need more of them from more people. I've skated for ~30 years and it's better than ever but can still improve of course.
48 years old. Still skate. Started akating in 1986. 7 years clean and sober! I wishh I had gotten sober at 20. I can't imagine what I could have accomplished. I've accomplished so much in past 7 years as an older skater.
Thank you for this I was a pro skater for west 49 in the early 2000s broke my shin and got on pain pills and went down hill oxys taken off the market had to find a other way to feel better and I found heroin then fentanyl and now I’m 35 years old 5 years sober after a 9 year penitentiary sentence trust me kids don’t do drugs
I agree that promoting heavy boozing is daft.. but skaters don't generally mock people for wearing a helmet or being straight edge like you say. Most of us are very accepting, nice people and just let people get on with their thing. (Edit: I agree the helmet stigma did used to exist way more. Eww.. helmet stigma sounds unsanitary. 🤮)
I believe it is that 'trendy' section of skateboarding, much like the 'toxic masculinity' section, it is there but generally skaters rule. I used to give Tim shit for wearing a helmet, but that was actually out of respect... Although I'm not sure he gets my sense of humour now! Deffo never pissed in his helmet, like Andy had experienced!!!
it's not perse toxic but it devalues the original self by needing something "extra" to handle the world/be cool. And I think that is where the real crux lies. We should be enough as is
wolf is a good soul. the truth is skaters tend to be addicts we get addicted to the rush and then when you find something that helps you feel better in a similar way but it takes far less physical effort and less injury's. its easy to fall into and drift away from skating. ive been sober 7 years from a very serious iv cocaine and heroin addiction at one point i did 3.5 grams of heroin and a gram of coke everyday for almost 2 years striaght and that was only a small part of my journey. no matter how high id get id always dream about skating the love is real and more powerful than addiction. anyone fighting to get better just hold on to that board like you did when you were 14 and youll roll away a stronger person.
Yeah that podcast really hits, proper felt for Andy...Such huge pressure when he breaks it down, Jason ellis was spot on. Its good to cry, you have to let it out... Great piece mate x
You raise an interesting point. We're about the same age and have been skating about the same amount of time, and it's definitely gone from being glamorized to everyone growing up, and skateboarding growing up a bit. I still drink some beers and smoke some weed, but quit drugs liquor and cigarettes. Make yourself a better person, and don't give people a hard time. You don't know what someone's been through. And don't let anyone tell you how to skate. Skateboarding is for everyone
@@A1phamous509 That's fine bud. You're probably grown and can make your own choices. I'm 100% not throwing rocks at anyone or how they live their life, I'm just saying that I used to have a lot more bad habits than I do now, and NONE OF THEM MADE ME A BETTER SKATEBOARDER. Best of luck to you.
Bravo for putting this up and sharing it 👏🏼. This is a much needed perspective that resonates with many. I grew up skateboarding and since only do it every so often. I became a strength & conditioning coach and wanted to help skateboarders improve their health for longevity in it. I was shunned by the community and also disassociated myself with it because it was kinda crabs in a bucket. Since then I see a shift in the status quo and it’s great to see more skaters taking care of themselves. Good on everyone who is putting in the effort 💪🏼 🛹 🏋️♂️
I would need 4 people to count on our hands how many kids our age died from drug or alcohol use. Every one of them was in the skate/bmx scene. Our town built a nice park and created a generation of skaters my age and heroin came in around the start of the 2010s and took them all out.
@@Sk8Wine it’s the mindset “shit, I’ve done crazier stuff, I’ll try it” then that evil black hole sucks you in…It’s more powerful than you are. People aren’t joking when they say that. You might’ve kicked rocks or ice but this is a different animal. It’ll suck in anyone and everyone who steps foot. The only way out is a cry for help. The earlier the better. I couldn’t imagine being months or years in….
Strong Rob. Best thing you’ve put out in ages. No disrespect. I’m a former wreck head skater myself. Now working in education in Europe with students from aged 11-21 from around the world. Skateboarding has so much more to offer than what it’s often stigmatised as. I run after school and weekend activities with students just taking some out to roll… but also reassure parents that skating isn’t the stigma people often paint it as. I’m tattooed,pierced..it’s nice to break boundaries. We learn so much, it’s an art form, it’s independent, it’s so social,there are no rules, you can be as creative you want, a piece of wood with 4 wheels brought us all to the same place..the most important thing is…are you having fun? ❤
Keep being a positive influence in those kids lives. Jake Phelps from Thrasher (RIP) used to go to the skatepark on saturday mornings and teach kids how to drop in and do kickflips. He didn't get paid to do that. It's because he loves skateboarding. Still watchin'
I’ve been straight edge my whole life, 48 years and I just never gave a shit what people thought of that and not many people gave me shit for it. Mostly, people have respected it. I have people tell me, “I wish I was like that”. And you CAN be! Just because you have done doesn’t mean you have to.
I always say this with alcohol! I managed 18 months during covid... It's just too ingrained in British culture! Ironically a few of my mates now drink alcohol free beers...
I 100% agree, it’s the reason I started my channel as a therapist who skates, but the big thing to understand is that skateboarding is a culture, and some of those who seek it out are doing so to escape hardships/abuse in their lives and to possibly find a place of acceptance (often feeling like a black sheep, which contributes to the counter culture identity of skateboarding). With that being said, it should be noted that many of those skaters, are hurt individuals, and hurt people hurt people (for many reasons). This leads to harsh judgment, being less accepting of mainstream culture, and being self destructive through unhealthy behaviors (a popular one being substance abuse). If we want to change things, we have to be smart about the approach, if not, we come off as trying to make skating “lame”. For example, not preaching about sobriety, but just being sober and letting our actions speak for themselves. Hope it all makes sense.
A high schooler smoked with some 19-20 yr olds at the skate park and started hallucinating. They left the kid and he didn’t have a phone. As an older skater I was disappointed with all of them. Me and my 8yr old twins stayed with him until his mom picked him up. Or when park and rec have to pick up beer cans or bottles. Do that at home or on your backyard mini ramp.
The self-destructive tendencies are probably the only things about skateboard culture that I don't like. I started at age 6, and I'm in my early 30s now. I still love it, even if I don't get to actually skate as often these days due to injuries. Something about the junkie burnout skaters always bothered me. It's probably just bad vibes, but so many people I skated with looked up to them because they were older or "cool." It tends to start young, at least in skating. I smoked weed for the first time at a skate friend's older brothers place when I was 12. I'm not anti-weed or anything, but to some, it really does open a door to other stuff. That skate friend I smoked with died at age 26 from substance abuse issues. He's not even close to the only friend (or the youngest) that I've lost like that, unfortunately. It's just one example. I think it's only when you're older that you realize how not cool it is. Those burnout skaters aren't having fun, they're probably more excited to hang out with younger kids than they should be, and they're barely even skating when they're at the park.
For sure... Although I think any drug is the start to it. Alcohol is poison (I still currently drink) and definitely also opens up a world of self abuse to teens and further, harder, drugs. Skateboarding will always have substance abuse, it goes hand in hand as some of the commentators have pointed out. Whatever, I don't mind or judge other peoples choices - just don't push your abuse onto others. As someone said here "hurt people hurt people"
I've never noticed burnouts being especially excited about hanging out with kids. That's actually a very peculiar thing to say. About as peculiar as a grown man in his 30's having a pfp like your own.
this is so wonderful! Growing up in Vienna, Austria, PD was a huge thing, especial in my social circles and so was Jackass. I was the dude with the helmet, laughed for doing boneless and skating a plus 8 inch board. What was done in Jackass and video bonus sections I have first hand experienced - and its neither skateboarding nor nice. I am forever grateful for the older skaters, mostly vert dudes I met on my travels, who put me under their wing and positively mentored.
@@new_boy74 in the 70s 80s and 90s normal people hated skaters including Nerds ... Skaters were mean and crazy and against everyone in society we were our own ... They would literally kick your a ss if you were a Nerd or sports jock especially Athletes and Jocks for a good reason ... What you see today is the invasion of Nerds and Athletes trying to change tha Skateboard Culture to a Nerds Perspective .... Skatebiarding is Dangerous and always should be ....
I was on Heroin for a year while homeless, I've played guitar 20 years, I noticed I played flawlessly while on 'the death', I couldn't breathe while off, the fact that it's the worlds strongest painkiller also.makes it very appealing to the skateboard world, pain is important, you need to know whats broken, and remember its called 'the death' ✌️😇🫒 I only started skating coz I was so damn happy to be alive/ have survived heroin/methadone
Still struggling with substance abuse. I was really good at skating too..but then substance abuse took a turn and then I lost alot of good tricks then eventually got hurt real bad bc I was on drugs…now I got to get through acl recovery therapy and relearn skating without abusing substances
The hardest part is not naming names. I feel a great bitterness to some that pushed this gnarly lifestyle, only to get hung out to dry by it. There is nothing cool by a family member finding your cold carcass, due to your substance abuse.
Jeez... What have you done to me this morning! I'm in tears watching this 😂 Good for you. I've never seen your channel but I couldn't agree more. You have a subscribe from me! I'm a 46 year old musician who went through all the stuff you're referring to in the 90s. I'm now 14 years sober and yes drug and alcohol abuse is very prevalent in music too. I started doing all that (and smoking which I finally quit in my 30s too) very very young! I look at my eldest son who has yet to begin secondary school and think wow I wasn't much older than you when I began "hammering it"! I'm sooo glad it's behind me but it definitely messed up some stuff for me. I skated a lot when I was younger and slowly started again in my late 30s but really got into it during the pandemic. I just skate for myself (don't we all! Kinda...) and I always wear a helmet now. Most of rhe time I'm just practicing flips or carving around a small skatepark doing basic stuff. Love Andy Anderson... Such an incredible young man. Cheers dude 👍😉
When I was starting skating in 85 I was soon after into minor threat, positive forces records etc...i felt and still do it's more punk to resist the usual negative culture that I noticed seep into skating, snowboarding.
@@Sk8Wine they really got me through some challenging times. Skating and punk rock wasnt cool or accepted here, we got bullied like crazy but the music and our skate crew got us always there . Bands like 7 Seconds, Youth of Today, Youth Brigade, Bad Brians etc were a God send. I still love this music and I love what Ian MacKaye is putting out now with his girlfriend. Joe Lally from Fugazi, his solo material is so good. I can go on forever...u got my sub...thanks for opening the conversation.
I wanted to be a pro skater and got pretty close but got addicted to pain pills and never made it. Now I started my channel on addiction and feel like life is much better and starting to get back to the real me. Thanks for making this video. Substance abuse is terrible for skateboarding. Mike AddictedToMore_
With you on this. I think the glorification or glamorizing toxic almost anti-health practices in skateboarding is very negative. Not just for the skateboarders but also the industry generally, I think Andy has done so much in this aspect for skateboarding and I think big big things have already, and will come by Andy being in skateboarding. Stay rad everyone ! Be well, and get that skate on !
@@Sk8Wine 100% That's the beauty of it could have only been someone like Andy not only personality wise but an atv kind of skateboarder. Very much in spirit of the 90's when you could wear whatever then it sort of disappeared as vert got less "cool" you saw less and less lids etc. It's the same with the offset wheels of his I don't think people quite understand yet what it means, but he's changed so much in a short time for the good of everyone. Love it !
Definitely, and I am not here to judge if that is how you deal with life - I hope I was more angled at the peer pressure of substance abuse within skateboarding.
I once asked Tony Hawk a question at an event hoping he would answer something about his Parents involvement in his life, interests and hobbies. I asked him to what did he attribute his and the Powell - Bones Brigade's relative focus and lack of burning out (Sex Drugs and RocknRoll)? Think Dog Town vs Animal Chin. While I do and always have enjoyed the individual nature of progression in Skateboarding; ie. no Coaches, (broadly speaking), No Teams ... I do recognize now as a Parent that Team Sports do have some unique things to offer. Do I hope my Kids Skate? No. Why? In part because of what this video is attempting to articulate. We poisoned each other, watched our potential evaporate, knocked up Girls, stole things, broke things, burnt out and in some cases have, like has been said, faded away. Some managed to focus on Skating, others used the culture to mask trauma, belonging to something, find meaning, manufacture wins and confidence... but having been dry since 96, I don't know that the old crew, who I expect thought I just sold out and got all churchy know how hard it was to leave the scene and reclaim my sanity. Rehab was scary shit; drying out and tweaking. I still skate, with my 50 year old body; it feels like wearing coveralls covered in lead. But ya, Alcohol is for suckers; I mean that, you're getting played. Do you think the makers of that stuff care about your lost potential? Pfft. "Treat Yourself Like Someone You Are Responsible for Helping" and "Do Not Bother Children When They Are Skateboarding"
@@ioncewasmikey He didn't mention his Parents, rather he said something about being focused; which is fair - He clearly is a part of the progression bell-curve of super stars (as his femur break clearly emphasizes) I recently noted Andy Anderson speaking fondly of his Parents too. Sometimes, Skaters don't really have award winning home environments and the Tribe because where they're oriented. If the Posse stays "focused", great, live to ride ride to live. Often, the Crew falls into Wine, Women and Song (and Drugs n Crime and my favourite Graffitti) so ya.
I think 'dead beats' and 'losers' with or without skateboarding end up in the same place without focus. I think skateboarding saves some people from trauma and worsening their lives, or at least I hope it does. I think it did with me!
i'm not gonna lie, some of the fucked up nights with the boys were some of the best nights of my life. but i'm over it. not skateboarding tho. i still do that.
I'm 48 now & I saw all the Piss Drunks, Big Brother, CKY, Jackass, Dirty Shanchez as it evolved, & never had any interest in it. I didn't feel the need to drink or take any substances to get thru hard times, it I understand how that environment was/is easy to get into when skating was promoting it at the time. I'm glad to see people finally speaking out,getting clean, keeping healthy both physically & mentally, & hope that more realise that they need to follow their own path & support others in need
Definitely. I was a fan of the entertainment that Jackass and Dirty Sanchez brought... I like immaturity and silly stuff! Seems a fine line between being stupid and being stupid! I also understand how easy it is to go down a dark path of substance abuse, I think that respect for how dangerous it is has got me to 36 fairly straight edge.
@@EDDIEM0NS00N Not Genuine Skateboarders there a bunch of Nerds and Geeks posing as Skateboarders trying to clean it up .... Im sorry dude but a Skateboarder doesn't Chug a glass of Milk and Drop in a Half Pipe ... We slug a beer hit some weed and Skate .. Tradition Traditional ... Do you know what RAD means or do you go with the Grain .... WATCH JEFF GROSSO BLACKVIEW INTERVIEW... HE WILL EXPLAIN EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT A SKATEBOARDER IS
@@EDDIEM0NS00N this coming from a Skinny jean Nerd posing as a Skateboarder ha ha ... Your irrelevant dude you think Aaron Kyro is a Hardcore core Skateboarder right ? You guys are geeks
When I was younger there was a big straight edge scene. But they were almost more obnoxious in their efforts to show how crazy they could be without drink or drugs. Of course, none of them stayed straight edge, it was just a fashion thing in secondary school when couldn’t get served alcohol anyway and it was parallel to the hardcore music scene. Regarding helmets, having seen the olympics requiring helmets and pads you’d think people would feel more comfortable practising in helmets and pads.
Love this, well done. I haven't stopped skating since 1987, I'm 52 (with tired knees) now, and still skate street and park every week. I wear a helmet all the time since Mike V made a point about how he couldn't think of a good enough reason NOT to wear one. Not cool? Pffft.
I couldn't agree more with your stance. I got into drugs through people I met skating and I've basically fucked my entire life up. Still trying to figure out how to escape working minimum wage jobs when I had opportunities and was a smart kid before drugs had anything to do with it. Drugs seem to be such a big part of skate culture that I'm actually not sure i'd want my own kids to skate. If I am lucky enough to ever sort my life out and have children...
I have spent my 25+ years in skateboarding not ever being too pressured into drugs and alcohol, but maybe that is because I had respectful friends? Drugs and substance abuse are in other sports, look at cycling or golf, it is just... for some reason... not marketed that way towards more middle class people who "dont do drugs" haha!
Or you could be a good role model in stead of blaming the whole sport, or the culture. Pointing out issues bigger than you, but doing nothing will acomplish... Well, nothing. Also want to add that this may happen with any activity; from literature clubs to producing music, poetry slams, festivals, beyblades, videogames and what not... No matter what's your hobby, I bet you everything I own I can find a group of ppl doing It zooted. My two cents, ppl do drugs when they feel lonely, bored and depressed. Giving kids more tools to kick the dopamine without poison is a net positive. Just be careful of who they meet, and try your best, as you would when you let them gaming time on the net. Whatever they do, get involved.
Great video. Andy Anderson is amazing. So humble. And I also agree that booze and drugs shouldn't be a primary focus in the skate community. But I think there will always be a place for it. I don't think anyone should be picked on for wearing pads ( I wear a helmet every time I go out these days) But skating, beer and punk rock all go hand in hand. It shouldn't be disregarded. Dustin Dollin seems to function perfectly well drunk.
Maybe I missed focus, but I was highlighting the peer pressure and substance abuse. I don't think having a beer to relax and not talking shit to your mates because they aren't, is perfectly fine. I had some of my best nights at uni after a few brews, maybe they would have been better without, but fond memories.
@@Sk8Wine I’m definitely not a fan of anyone talking shit to people for not drinking or for wearing protective gear. But I will say, my favorite sessions growing up were the memories made on the backyard Mini-ramp with the boys. Drinking beers and grilling food. A lot of spills -and a lot of fun! Best memories of my life.
Sobriety is when a human is at their best. All the drug promoting, demonic image skateboard graphics need a remake as well, evil images breed evil spirits.
For some reason drugs and alcohol are a common thing to witness at skateparks now even when theres kids present.You don't see athletes doing that in any other sport but skateboarding.When a skater dies dies from substance abuse the skate community just sweeps it under the rug.
Running is the other major sport I have seen Alcohol use bleeding in more and more, like with now beer Miles and so on where the runners doing the events are training using stronger beer like having a Double IPA or Belgian Tripple before every single days run of 5--6 miles different from what they would use on race day and have once a week they are using some near beers for training especially for some people using brands that give themselves headaches easier if having more then 2 unlike a regular beer from same company.
Agreed. I did want to reference a number of real world scenarios where skateboarding media has most certainly swept HOW the person died under the rug. However, I have to think about a number of friends and family. Unfortunately, just like one commentator in here, some people will remain ignorant and talk sh*t until they die.
My brother needs Jesus. For myself, I started skating in fifth grade (early 80's), and skated until my college years. At which time music took over my life. But all through my skating years skateboarding completely kept me drug and alcohol free. I can remember a few skaters here and there that got drunk or high, but really for the most part everyone was straight. Skating was our drug. That's all we did. It wasn't until my late twenties that I first got high. It was music and other musicians that brought that into my life. Skateboarding was THE most positive part of my life with the exception of my relationship with Jesus. I love skateboarding, and would do it now if I didn't have a bum leg. My skater friends were also the best. You could show up in any town. Not know a soul. Skate around for a bit, and sooner or later another skater would show up and instant friends. It happened to me everywhere I went. It's sad to me to think the skate scene has changed in that. There is no question the alcohol and drugs limit your skating potential. If you're good doing that, you would be even better without. Promise. Every really dope skater I knew personally was sober. Though I can think of a couple that weren't. But they definitely weren't reaching their full potential. Sad. Drugs and alcohol steal time away from things that matter to you most. H Street, and Plan B were the sickest companies and videos ever! Flipped skating on its ear. Animal Chin years before that. Great video brother. If there's any kids watching... Don't do drugs and alcohol. It's the nectar of the nit wit's. It doesn't do anything positive in your life. Only takes away. Be a real rebel.
If I was to list every skater thats gone from skating to music/skating to weed/alcohol/music/skating to harder/party drugs/music/skating less to dabbling with heroin/crack/meth/music/skating a bit to addiction/music/hardly skating to full blown addiction/music/hardly ever skating to full blown addiction/homelessness/selling all their records/selling all skate related stuff for addiction,I'd be in this comments section all day. If you ever want to try to put a skater thats starting to dabble off drugs for life show them any documentary about Bruce Logan(There's a really iconic photo of Tony Alva throwing his logan deck towards the camera) it'll scare them to death.
Most skateboarders come from broken homes. Most of us discovered skateboarding because of it. Naturally when we hurt, we try and find a group/tribe to belong to, sometimes it can have a negative effect on people, in which they do things that conflict with their morals and values.
Agreed! Deffo why I started... Although now with the Olympics, it is a lot of talented kids from stable middle class backgrounds (Not that that wasn't the case either in the 2000s)
As someone that did all this stuff when i was younger i found skating was the number one thing that actually kept me from doing that kind of stuff during the day. On the average summer day i was either starting the day with a skate session or another type of session 😅. But i didnt like doing any of that while i was skating could never skate as well when i did. Id still do it later that night but if it wasnt for skating id have just been getting high all day
Skating culture changes just like anything else, the world is learning to be comfortable in its skin with less substance influence, its going to lead to healing globally if we stay the course possibly. (=
Sober is a better term than Straight Edge. Straight Edge is a hardcore movement, pretty much a gang of people that go around in groups beating up people that are drinking or using drugs because they are so adamant about it & it's actually extremely lame & cringy.
I think you missed what straight edge is... That doesn't sound like the right definition. That just sounds like thugs. I don't think Minor Threat beat people up haha
I am just speaking through personal experiences growing up going to shows etc & seeing it happen 1st hand. Nothing wrong with being sober, it's actually a good thing, I was just trying to explain that "Straight Edge" peeps can & do get militant & violent just because they see a person drinking at a show or even on the street & gang up on that 1 person like 6:1. I know Minor Threat was probably the 1st band to come up with that term, nothing wrong there, I'm just saying in the SF bay area mid 2000s it was out of hand.
My homies brother cracked his skull at the park and was in a coma for 2 weeks. Once he recovered he wore a helmet at the park. It was a wake up call for everyone. That lasted maybe a month or two. He stopped wearing it. Dude wasn’t used to the weight. Like for backflips out the bowl… dumb kid.
Mmmmm allot to think about with this video!!, got thee old grey matter cranking!!!, here’s my 10 pence worth!!,honestly over my 38 years skating iv seen the good bad and ugly, in regards alcohol it’s been in the fringes of the scenes for me, I was straight edge up untill I was 30 and don’t remember anyone hassling me about it, in regards drugs weed has always been a big part of skateboarding, the idea of trying to skate stoned in Especially on a vert ramp just doesn’t make since to me but a know it goes on allot!!,I remember seeing a high profile and amazing skater regularly skate vert and smoke weed!! The odd time he was taking a break from weed his skating went from really good to insanely good, maybe that means something?, I smoke a bit and drink a bit but always away from skateboarding!, they just don’t mix for me!, definitely in the early 90”s with street skating being massive the weed intake seemed to go up massively and it seemed to sap the energy out of skating, all the street skaters seemed to be getting stoned 90% of the time and skating the other 10%, in regards pads and helmets it’s a weird one, in the 70”s pads and helmets were the norm it seemed,skatepark insurance must have been different then so everyone had to pad up, then in the 80”s the era of vertical pads and helmets were universally used apart from a few fringe skaters, it’s way to dangerous to go big on a vertical ramp padless ( of course clay is the exception ) just watch gavin Bokta ( sorry for the miss spelling) yes he wares a helmet but no pads,he can’t go big or fast it’s to much of a risk in regards consistency and injury!,say a little clip of gavin on a vertical ramp the other day!, fully padded up and totally ripping!!! Does that say something?? , I totally agree with you about the helmet stigma, it seems to be ok when your little to use pads and a helmet but when skaters get into there late teens sometimes they morph into a hardcore weed and alcohol tattoo skater and what iv seen there actual skateboarding suffers and of course teenagers see them and some go oooooo I want to be like that guy ( thrasher has allot to answer for in regards this!) I guess there has always been weird and odd and colourful characters in skateboarding it seems to attract them!, these same people seem to drift towards drugs, mental health problems seem to be quite prevalent in skateboarding maybe because of this? If you have mental health problem weed and alcohol can seem like the solution to the demons in the head but it’s not a good fit at all in my opinion! It makes it worse!!, anyway rob bravo for doing this video 🤟🤟
Yeah man! I am not anti-drugs or alcohol, just like I am not anti-religion... I just don't like the way over my time skateboarding it is propagandised to the kids as being cool... It won't change, because risky shit is entertaining, but when it is aimed at the yoof... I feel awkward about it.
There is a faction of people in the skate world that are STILL clinging to this "punk rock" ideal of live fast/die young/fuck the system. I think these people are incredibly vocal, but perhaps not as many in number as they once where in years past. I think there's a place for that in skateboarding, I'm not going to pretend that attitude isn't part of the DNA of the sport, but when we reach the point of shitting on people for trying to do things to keep their bodies and minds healthy I think some people need to start taking a real look at themselves in the mirror.
Fully this! Who wants to live until their 90 with absolutely no life stories? I think it is a balance. Coincidentally I had not heard the "live fast, die young" since I was a kid at the skatepark and a local graff/skater used to spray paint that slogan. Wonder where he is now!
Good drugs and brew isnt the problem. Its when you get narcissists and abusers that ruin everything. Too much of anything is bad. I had bad experiences lately that made me lose my edge in skateboarding. I never thought my passion would be used against me but the negativity around me just knocked me down... Kids and teens should be allowed to experiment with everything. The problem are the adults that take advantage of them. Thats when their skateboarding or hobby of choice takes a dive and drugs/alcohol are used to numb the pain. "Doctors" want people on medical lobotomy just the same. Drug dealers have more of a presence and they only care about their gains until their loved ones become "customers". Just look at Michael Jackson. Did he really need to be pushed that hard by his own parents?? Mid Michael Jackson would have been plenty. Thats my two cents...
"Guns don't kill people" - I tend to agree, as I said, I don't judge anyone wanting a beer or smoking. I did point out near the end for the link between better mental health. Interestingly they have been finding in studies a number of illegal drugs to possibly help, for those who are depressed, will be interesting to see where the studies take us. This opinion piece was more aimed at the marketing and peer pressure within skateboarding.
Great vid. I could never stand any of that jackass and piss drunks crap. It was so sad and tiring through the early 2000’s watching every talented skate kid get sponsored, move to Hollywood, and turn into the exact same cookie cutter party burn out.
This is sadly the truth... Similar to footballers in the UK who earn millions, have an injury and then end up working at their local football club earning minimum wage again.
Andy is probably one of the highest paid and most respected skater in the world right now so I’d say the helmet thing isn’t stopping him. Drugs and alcohol are part of the culture because of the culture it came out of. Skateboarding culture has changed and evolved so much that you can participate in skateboarding without ever being around the drug side of it. That being said some people skate because they saw it and thought it was cool and there are many of us who started because of trauma and not fitting in regular society. I hope skateboarding doesn’t forget its roots and remains a place where weird kids with shit parents can always fit in and be dictators of the culture too. Saying it hasn’t changed is absurd though bruv. We see 5 year olds skating with their dad at the park now. Drugs ain’t going anywhere but they aren’t chasing you so it should be really simple to stay away from them if they aren’t for you.
@@Sk8Wine watch it again. He’s sweating, can’t keep still and seems emotional unstable. Tony seems to be picking up on it I reckon. I love Andy, no judgement. But would you be surprised if Andy enjoys psychedelics? Looks like he needs a good night sleep in the interview.
@Gunjaroo Did you watch the whole video? He's literally skating up to the point the interview starts, like they're sitting there waiting on him to finish & come in. So that's why he's sweating lol. And he's clearly a sensitive guy. He's talked multiple times about how he had really closed himself off from the world & his emotions while trying to put his part together & now that it's done, all the emotions are flooding in. You're just making wild assumptions based on ignorance, and I mean that in the nicest way possible.
@@ioncewasmikey if you think so. as a recovering addict and someone whos friends with lots of addicts and drug users...he dont seem 100% sober...i could be wrong but i did watch the entire thing. he ain't normal Andy. I love Andy sober or not. im not judging. just pointing his odd behaviour out.
@Gunjaroo But when the first piece of "evidence" you brought up was that he was sweating when they clearly show him skating right before the interview... simplest explanation is usually the correct one. In taking another look, he doesn't seem overly fidgety or anything to me either. There are only a couple moments when he seems emotional, but I wouldn't call it unstable. One moment is when talking about a friend & mentor he lost & the other was when recalling a moment when he was scared for his mother's health, and he follows it up by explaining what I'd mentioned before with him bottling up his emotions. I took another look at your comment too, and no, I wouldn't be surprised if he uses psychedelics. But I definitely don't think he's tripping during the interview, nor are psychedelics generally an addictive substance. The guy clearly cares about his health & keeping his brain safe, so I'd be very surprised if he's doing anything to put those things in serious jeopardy. I've got a fair bit of experience with addiction & knowing & seeing people with addiction problems... I don't see anything in that interview that leads me to believe he's struggling with drug addiction. I'd encourage you to give it another watch & see if you come to the same conclusion you did before. And I wish you the best in your recovery, man. May you have the strength to stay sober. 🙏
I don't think moralizing about substance abuse in skateboarding is a good idea. It's always been an open, free and diverse scene and I think that's good. A personal stance of "I'm not into that, it's stupid" I respect, but saying "skateboarding should be against substance abuse" is going too far. Personally, I don't believe in promoting substance abuse, but I don't believe in condemning it either. A lot of people who use both skating and substance abuse as an outlet would lead an even more destructive life if they weren't into skating. Reducing tolerance of substance abuse would alienate those people. It would be more constructive to use skateboarding as a place where people can be open and real about their experiences and let everyone make up their own opinions.
overall a good video and a topic that's not talked about enough but please stop saying "alcohol and drugs". Alcohol is a drug ..and a really, really bad one too. Maybe switch it to "alcohol and other drugs" or just say "drugs" but talk about alcohol in this context too, so everyone knows, that u include alcohol in that. It's complicated, iknow, but it's really important that we as a society acknowledge the fact, that alcohol is one of the worst drugs known to men, not just for the one abusing it, but for everyone of us.
Good point. I always remember Professor Nut for the UK government got fired because he placed alcohol as way more harmful than many other illegal drugs.
"skateboarding" is what needs to get diiched. Skate culture is wayy to full of it self. From what I understood, Andy did mushrooms, was I wrong about that?
who gives a damn do whatever makes you happy, some people dont need help, enjoy your your life do drugs get laid get stunts and sober when u get older so you can die healthy 🤦♂️
I feel andy is is the last person who should be promoting helmets. He loves to do super gimmicky stuff like special grip tape decks wheels ect. and his whole powell family friendly image is really fake and in authentic. But somone like gonz is great gonz wears a helmet and RIPS and never even mentions it becuae its not a gimmick for him. he doesn't wear a helmet skating flt ground like andy he wears one when needed.
Dude wears a helmet & it gets pointed out & made fun of because it's not the norm. He gets asked questions about it so he's going to talk about it. He gets a lot of exposure so he's the perfect person to promote it. What a weird take from a guy with a helmet on in his pfp lol
Skateboarding is not a mainstream sport. We don't want it to evolve into a wholesome activity. Normie kids should do theater or football. There should never be a safe space in skateboarding. The world is full of bs for regular people, and now we have to sanitize skateboarding, too? No thanks.
Lol sorry buddy, but when your sport is in the Olympics, it's mainstream. Honestly, it's been mainstream since the late 90s. People can do whatever they want whether they skate or not, it's not a bad thing to take care of yourself.
@ioncewasmikey I agree, buddy. But my opinion is skateboarding on leash isn't at the core of skating, and it never will be. The healthy and inclusive attitude is the exact reason everyone fled the sports their parents played and found skateboarding in the first place. The outlaw skater will always be the emulated skater. No one wants to run out and buy the product of the guy who won gold at the Olympics. Just participating will probably hurt their board sales.
@@Sk8Wine it's not normal to do it in front of other men, and especially not on camera. But since you think you're(skatewhiner) the leading expert on everything ,and now our new shithouse psychologist... I guess we better listen.
@@truthhurts7637 na bro, you need help, and from a man to man who is struggling. You need your brother's and be able to feel vulnerable around them. Otherwise they aren't brothers BOOMER
Substance abuse in skateboarding is a significant issue that needs to be addressed for the well-being of both the individual skaters and the broader skateboarding community. Skateboarding, at its core, is a sport that demands physical and mental precision, balance, coordination, and resilience. However, the culture around skateboarding has sometimes glamorized or normalized substance use, leading many athletes, especially younger ones, down a harmful path. Drugs and alcohol impair judgment, reaction times, and physical performance, increasing the risk of serious injuries and limiting a skater's potential to progress in their craft. Beyond the physical risks, substance abuse can have long-term negative effects on mental health, including depression and anxiety, which can be particularly damaging in a sport that often serves as an outlet for personal expression and emotional release. Moreover, substance abuse tarnishes the image of skateboarding, perpetuating harmful stereotypes and deterring brands, sponsors, and the general public from fully embracing its value as a legitimate and inspiring athletic discipline. By overcoming substance abuse, skateboarders can reach their full potential, set a positive example for younger skaters, and help shift the culture of skateboarding toward a healthier, more supportive environment. Overcoming this challenge means creating a future where skateboarding is celebrated not only for its creativity and skill but also for the physical and mental strength of the athletes behind it.
Completely understand your sentiment here, but you gotta give credit where it’s due. Substance abuse with skateboarding was much more prevalent in a completely different timeline. These days, the level of skill in skateboarding has risen drastically BECAUSE of the activity itself. You often see this with most athletic sports/activities through new innovation and natural progression of time. If anything, a lot of the ambassadors for skateboarding promote health, sobriety and fitness these days. We haven’t seen much of this “toxic masculinity,” that you’re talking about as of late.
It's a childish play on words with the word "whine" and has absolutely nothing to do with the promotion or intake of alcohol. Sk8 wine makes no sense what so ever... Sk8 whine... Makes more sense. Explaining jokes isn't funny. I do have some non-alcoholic beer reviews though!
@@Sk8Wine i like the name of the channel it is like a responsibly enjoyed glass of sk8 content when the time is right. I felt a bit out of place leaving the comment bc it is such a serious issue and I’m pointing out the channel name haha but it was purely ment like, if this is comming from sk8wine than one should pay even more attention to what is said. Like the vid a lot
I idolized the Piss Drunx as a kid and thought they were so cool…. Now I’m 35 trying to relearn how to skate basically from scratch and 2 years sober. It is great seeing most of the old pros I looked up to also in recovery.
Back this, it is a silver lining seeing the maturity of those who went through it come out the other side... Usually completely soba too.
Keep it up. Nobody has to be perfect, but all those dudes cleaned up. It means something. There's more than seeing how fucked up you can get, and it doesn't make you a better skateboarder, or a cooler human being
@@corderovillegas1940 Amen brother, one day at a time.
Great to hear the different point of views . Appreciate the upload 🙏🏽 and for the record I where hip pads 😅 😜
This is same story for me and most of my friends who used to be prospects to become pro... All recovering life after drugs or alcohol abuse, some dead and some are living in the streets and would not even remember me
This is a much needed video, we need more of them from more people. I've skated for ~30 years and it's better than ever but can still improve of course.
For sure, I feel good in my 30s skateboarding.
48 years old. Still skate. Started akating in 1986. 7 years clean and sober! I wishh I had gotten sober at 20. I can't imagine what I could have accomplished. I've accomplished so much in past 7 years as an older skater.
Congrats man, that's great to hear! Always come back stronger though, no matter when it is.
Thank you for this I was a pro skater for west 49 in the early 2000s broke my shin and got on pain pills and went down hill oxys taken off the market had to find a other way to feel better and I found heroin then fentanyl and now I’m 35 years old 5 years sober after a 9 year penitentiary sentence trust me kids don’t do drugs
I agree that promoting heavy boozing is daft.. but skaters don't generally mock people for wearing a helmet or being straight edge like you say. Most of us are very accepting, nice people and just let people get on with their thing.
(Edit: I agree the helmet stigma did used to exist way more. Eww.. helmet stigma sounds unsanitary. 🤮)
I believe it is that 'trendy' section of skateboarding, much like the 'toxic masculinity' section, it is there but generally skaters rule. I used to give Tim shit for wearing a helmet, but that was actually out of respect... Although I'm not sure he gets my sense of humour now! Deffo never pissed in his helmet, like Andy had experienced!!!
it's not perse toxic but it devalues the original self by needing something "extra" to handle the world/be cool. And I think that is where the real crux lies. We should be enough as is
Agreed!
wolf is a good soul. the truth is skaters tend to be addicts we get addicted to the rush and then when you find something that helps you feel better in a similar way but it takes far less physical effort and less injury's. its easy to fall into and drift away from skating. ive been sober 7 years from a very serious iv cocaine and heroin addiction at one point i did 3.5 grams of heroin and a gram of coke everyday for almost 2 years striaght and that was only a small part of my journey. no matter how high id get id always dream about skating the love is real and more powerful than addiction. anyone fighting to get better just hold on to that board like you did when you were 14 and youll roll away a stronger person.
Seems it, never spoken to him in person.
Yeah that podcast really hits, proper felt for Andy...Such huge pressure when he breaks it down, Jason ellis was spot on. Its good to cry, you have to let it out... Great piece mate x
Agreed, was a good one from HawkVWolf. Don't cry all the time, but also don't bottle shit up! Cheers boss!
You raise an interesting point. We're about the same age and have been skating about the same amount of time, and it's definitely gone from being glamorized to everyone growing up, and skateboarding growing up a bit. I still drink some beers and smoke some weed, but quit drugs liquor and cigarettes. Make yourself a better person, and don't give people a hard time. You don't know what someone's been through. And don't let anyone tell you how to skate. Skateboarding is for everyone
Agreed!
Except for me but I still fuckin do it everyday all day
@@A1phamous509 That's fine bud. You're probably grown and can make your own choices. I'm 100% not throwing rocks at anyone or how they live their life, I'm just saying that I used to have a lot more bad habits than I do now, and NONE OF THEM MADE ME A BETTER SKATEBOARDER. Best of luck to you.
Bravo for putting this up and sharing it 👏🏼. This is a much needed perspective that resonates with many. I grew up skateboarding and since only do it every so often. I became a strength & conditioning coach and wanted to help skateboarders improve their health for longevity in it. I was shunned by the community and also disassociated myself with it because it was kinda crabs in a bucket. Since then I see a shift in the status quo and it’s great to see more skaters taking care of themselves. Good on everyone who is putting in the effort 💪🏼 🛹 🏋️♂️
I think some skaters are pushing past the silly status quo. Nothing cool about being dead in a gutter because of your self abuse.
I would need 4 people to count on our hands how many kids our age died from drug or alcohol use. Every one of them was in the skate/bmx scene.
Our town built a nice park and created a generation of skaters my age and heroin came in around the start of the 2010s and took them all out.
Dang that's sad. Skateboarding tends to attract those living life to extremes, it is a shame skateboarding isn't enough for some people.
@@Sk8Wine it’s the mindset “shit, I’ve done crazier stuff, I’ll try it” then that evil black hole sucks you in…It’s more powerful than you are. People aren’t joking when they say that. You might’ve kicked rocks or ice but this is a different animal. It’ll suck in anyone and everyone who steps foot. The only way out is a cry for help. The earlier the better. I couldn’t imagine being months or years in….
Strong Rob.
Best thing you’ve put out in ages. No disrespect.
I’m a former wreck head skater myself.
Now working in education in Europe with students from aged 11-21 from around the world.
Skateboarding has so much more to offer than what it’s often stigmatised as.
I run after school and weekend activities with students just taking some out to roll… but also reassure parents that skating isn’t the stigma people often paint it as.
I’m tattooed,pierced..it’s nice to break boundaries.
We learn so much, it’s an art form, it’s independent, it’s so social,there are no rules, you can be as creative you want, a piece of wood with 4 wheels brought us all to the same place..the most important thing is…are you having fun?
❤
You missed the giftedh8er gang, no disrespect but this comment is nice in comparison haha
Keep being a positive influence in those kids lives. Jake Phelps from Thrasher (RIP) used to go to the skatepark on saturday mornings and teach kids how to drop in and do kickflips. He didn't get paid to do that. It's because he loves skateboarding. Still watchin'
I’ve been straight edge my whole life, 48 years and I just never gave a shit what people thought of that and not many people gave me shit for it. Mostly, people have respected it. I have people tell me, “I wish I was like that”. And you CAN be! Just because you have done doesn’t mean you have to.
I always say this with alcohol! I managed 18 months during covid... It's just too ingrained in British culture! Ironically a few of my mates now drink alcohol free beers...
I 100% agree, it’s the reason I started my channel as a therapist who skates, but the big thing to understand is that skateboarding is a culture, and some of those who seek it out are doing so to escape hardships/abuse in their lives and to possibly find a place of acceptance (often feeling like a black sheep, which contributes to the counter culture identity of skateboarding). With that being said, it should be noted that many of those skaters, are hurt individuals, and hurt people hurt people (for many reasons). This leads to harsh judgment, being less accepting of mainstream culture, and being self destructive through unhealthy behaviors (a popular one being substance abuse). If we want to change things, we have to be smart about the approach, if not, we come off as trying to make skating “lame”. For example, not preaching about sobriety, but just being sober and letting our actions speak for themselves. Hope it all makes sense.
Hurt people hurt people, too true.
Hurt people hurt people.
yet there's another way of looking at it: Hurt people can heal people.
@@Eduardo_Badal why not both
Yes, Satan, we shall.
A high schooler smoked with some 19-20 yr olds at the skate park and started hallucinating. They left the kid and he didn’t have a phone. As an older skater I was disappointed with all of them. Me and my 8yr old twins stayed with him until his mom picked him up.
Or when park and rec have to pick up beer cans or bottles. Do that at home or on your backyard mini ramp.
Agreed, or be responsible.
The self-destructive tendencies are probably the only things about skateboard culture that I don't like. I started at age 6, and I'm in my early 30s now. I still love it, even if I don't get to actually skate as often these days due to injuries.
Something about the junkie burnout skaters always bothered me. It's probably just bad vibes, but so many people I skated with looked up to them because they were older or "cool." It tends to start young, at least in skating.
I smoked weed for the first time at a skate friend's older brothers place when I was 12. I'm not anti-weed or anything, but to some, it really does open a door to other stuff. That skate friend I smoked with died at age 26 from substance abuse issues. He's not even close to the only friend (or the youngest) that I've lost like that, unfortunately. It's just one example.
I think it's only when you're older that you realize how not cool it is. Those burnout skaters aren't having fun, they're probably more excited to hang out with younger kids than they should be, and they're barely even skating when they're at the park.
For sure... Although I think any drug is the start to it. Alcohol is poison (I still currently drink) and definitely also opens up a world of self abuse to teens and further, harder, drugs. Skateboarding will always have substance abuse, it goes hand in hand as some of the commentators have pointed out. Whatever, I don't mind or judge other peoples choices - just don't push your abuse onto others. As someone said here "hurt people hurt people"
I've never noticed burnouts being especially excited about hanging out with kids. That's actually a very peculiar thing to say. About as peculiar as a grown man in his 30's having a pfp like your own.
this is so wonderful! Growing up in Vienna, Austria, PD was a huge thing, especial in my social circles and so was Jackass. I was the dude with the helmet, laughed for doing boneless and skating a plus 8 inch board. What was done in Jackass and video bonus sections I have first hand experienced - and its neither skateboarding nor nice. I am forever grateful for the older skaters, mostly vert dudes I met on my travels, who put me under their wing and positively mentored.
Yeah man! Same :D
Amen! Fantastic. The Skate scene is better more now than ever.
Yes and no, ha!
You're making great points. I think skaters need to be more friendly and humble, not thinking they're cooler than the average dude
For sure
@@new_boy74 in the 70s 80s and 90s normal people hated skaters including Nerds ... Skaters were mean and crazy and against everyone in society we were our own ... They would literally kick your a ss if you were a Nerd or sports jock especially Athletes and Jocks for a good reason ... What you see today is the invasion of Nerds and Athletes trying to change tha Skateboard Culture to a Nerds Perspective .... Skatebiarding is Dangerous and always should be ....
Absolutely well said, thought out, and spoken. Thank you for speaking your mind. I am here for it!
Thanks, sometimes speaking your mind isn't welcomed haha
I was on Heroin for a year while homeless, I've played guitar 20 years, I noticed I played flawlessly while on 'the death', I couldn't breathe while off, the fact that it's the worlds strongest painkiller also.makes it very appealing to the skateboard world, pain is important, you need to know whats broken, and remember its called 'the death' ✌️😇🫒 I only started skating coz I was so damn happy to be alive/ have survived heroin/methadone
As a guitarist with addict friends. You werent flawless. You were nodding off. That was a dream. You aren’t even strumming man
@@Ottophil ah bro I played everything flawless 😋🥳😭 don't, just don't
Lucky story, pleased you're still with us and skateboarding.
Still struggling with substance abuse. I was really good at skating too..but then substance abuse took a turn and then I lost alot of good tricks then eventually got hurt real bad bc I was on drugs…now I got to get through acl recovery therapy and relearn skating without abusing substances
Good luck my friend. Habits are hard to break, conentrate on the positive ones - like skateboarding with good mates.
Wishing you the strength to stay sober
Difficult video to make. But fucking necessary. Thanks
The hardest part is not naming names. I feel a great bitterness to some that pushed this gnarly lifestyle, only to get hung out to dry by it. There is nothing cool by a family member finding your cold carcass, due to your substance abuse.
@Sk8Wine thats heavy
Jeez... What have you done to me this morning! I'm in tears watching this 😂 Good for you. I've never seen your channel but I couldn't agree more. You have a subscribe from me! I'm a 46 year old musician who went through all the stuff you're referring to in the 90s. I'm now 14 years sober and yes drug and alcohol abuse is very prevalent in music too. I started doing all that (and smoking which I finally quit in my 30s too) very very young! I look at my eldest son who has yet to begin secondary school and think wow I wasn't much older than you when I began "hammering it"! I'm sooo glad it's behind me but it definitely messed up some stuff for me. I skated a lot when I was younger and slowly started again in my late 30s but really got into it during the pandemic. I just skate for myself (don't we all! Kinda...) and I always wear a helmet now. Most of rhe time I'm just practicing flips or carving around a small skatepark doing basic stuff. Love Andy Anderson... Such an incredible young man. Cheers dude 👍😉
Skating for your self is the true winner! Thanks for the kind words.
Great work mate - made me cry and I always wear my helmet ❤
:) I have just bought a new one, I sometimes wear it... Which might be more stupid tbh...
@@Sk8Wine the more people wear them the less stupid they will become
Agreed. It’s those “lifestyle” shots in the B Roll
Yep! Fully.
2,103 days sober from heroin. Skate on my friends!
Congrats!
@@Sk8Wine Thank you, friend!
When I was starting skating in 85 I was soon after into minor threat, positive forces records etc...i felt and still do it's more punk to resist the usual negative culture that I noticed seep into skating, snowboarding.
Minor Threat were the best! One of my first 'skate bands' to listen to.
@@Sk8Wine they really got me through some challenging times. Skating and punk rock wasnt cool or accepted here, we got bullied like crazy but the music and our skate crew got us always there . Bands like 7 Seconds, Youth of Today, Youth Brigade, Bad Brians etc were a God send. I still love this music and I love what Ian MacKaye is putting out now with his girlfriend. Joe Lally from Fugazi, his solo material is so good. I can go on forever...u got my sub...thanks for opening the conversation.
I wanted to be a pro skater and got pretty close but got addicted to pain pills and never made it. Now I started my channel on addiction and feel like life is much better and starting to get back to the real me. Thanks for making this video. Substance abuse is terrible for skateboarding.
Mike
AddictedToMore_
Thanks Mike, that is good to hear the final outcome though, not all as lucky as you!
@@Sk8Winedefinitely. I feel lucky
with you on this ..... cheers brother 🤜💥🤛
WHAT ARE YOU NOT WITH ME ON!
@@Sk8Wine lol, I don't know. this video is my 1st time seeing you & watching your channel. I'll let you know when it happens.
With you on this. I think the glorification or glamorizing toxic almost anti-health practices in skateboarding is very negative. Not just for the skateboarders but also the industry generally, I think Andy has done so much in this aspect for skateboarding and I think big big things have already, and will come by Andy being in skateboarding.
Stay rad everyone ! Be well, and get that skate on !
So glad that Andy has broken the industry with his helmet wearing. Would not have happened, I don't believe, in the early 2000s.
@@Sk8Wine 100% That's the beauty of it could have only been someone like Andy not only personality wise but an atv kind of skateboarder.
Very much in spirit of the 90's when you could wear whatever then it sort of disappeared as vert got less "cool" you saw less and less lids etc.
It's the same with the offset wheels of his I don't think people quite understand yet what it means, but he's changed so much in a short time for the good of everyone. Love it !
I think some people use friends and skating and partying as a way to fill a hole in their hearts. Like all of it is being used as a coping mechanism.
Definitely, and I am not here to judge if that is how you deal with life - I hope I was more angled at the peer pressure of substance abuse within skateboarding.
Such a solid watch. Great video.
Thank you
hold kjeft a. well said. it's not so cool to be dead, so don't hate on the helmeted one
Fully this! Kos deg!
I once asked Tony Hawk a question at an event hoping he would answer something about his Parents involvement in his life, interests and hobbies. I asked him to what did he attribute his and the Powell - Bones Brigade's relative focus and lack of burning out (Sex Drugs and RocknRoll)? Think Dog Town vs Animal Chin. While I do and always have enjoyed the individual nature of progression in Skateboarding; ie. no Coaches, (broadly speaking), No Teams ... I do recognize now as a Parent that Team Sports do have some unique things to offer. Do I hope my Kids Skate? No. Why? In part because of what this video is attempting to articulate. We poisoned each other, watched our potential evaporate, knocked up Girls, stole things, broke things, burnt out and in some cases have, like has been said, faded away. Some managed to focus on Skating, others used the culture to mask trauma, belonging to something, find meaning, manufacture wins and confidence... but having been dry since 96, I don't know that the old crew, who I expect thought I just sold out and got all churchy know how hard it was to leave the scene and reclaim my sanity. Rehab was scary shit; drying out and tweaking. I still skate, with my 50 year old body; it feels like wearing coveralls covered in lead. But ya, Alcohol is for suckers; I mean that, you're getting played. Do you think the makers of that stuff care about your lost potential? Pfft. "Treat Yourself Like Someone You Are Responsible for Helping" and "Do Not Bother Children When They Are Skateboarding"
What'd Tony say?
@@ioncewasmikey He didn't mention his Parents, rather he said something about being focused; which is fair - He clearly is a part of the progression bell-curve of super stars (as his femur break clearly emphasizes) I recently noted Andy Anderson speaking fondly of his Parents too. Sometimes, Skaters don't really have award winning home environments and the Tribe because where they're oriented. If the Posse stays "focused", great, live to ride ride to live. Often, the Crew falls into Wine, Women and Song (and Drugs n Crime and my favourite Graffitti) so ya.
I think 'dead beats' and 'losers' with or without skateboarding end up in the same place without focus. I think skateboarding saves some people from trauma and worsening their lives, or at least I hope it does. I think it did with me!
i'm not gonna lie, some of the fucked up nights with the boys were some of the best nights of my life. but i'm over it. not skateboarding tho. i still do that.
Yeah, I had some funny nights at uni drunk, but it was a personal choice.
I'm 48 now & I saw all the Piss Drunks, Big Brother, CKY, Jackass, Dirty Shanchez as it evolved, & never had any interest in it. I didn't feel the need to drink or take any substances to get thru hard times, it I understand how that environment was/is easy to get into when skating was promoting it at the time. I'm glad to see people finally speaking out,getting clean, keeping healthy both physically & mentally, & hope that more realise that they need to follow their own path & support others in need
Definitely. I was a fan of the entertainment that Jackass and Dirty Sanchez brought... I like immaturity and silly stuff! Seems a fine line between being stupid and being stupid! I also understand how easy it is to go down a dark path of substance abuse, I think that respect for how dangerous it is has got me to 36 fairly straight edge.
@@EDDIEM0NS00N Not Genuine Skateboarders there a bunch of Nerds and Geeks posing as Skateboarders trying to clean it up .... Im sorry dude but a Skateboarder doesn't Chug a glass of Milk and Drop in a Half Pipe ... We slug a beer hit some weed and Skate .. Tradition Traditional ... Do you know what RAD means or do you go with the Grain .... WATCH JEFF GROSSO BLACKVIEW INTERVIEW... HE WILL EXPLAIN EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT A SKATEBOARDER IS
@@EDDIEM0NS00N im guessing you are a Nerd Right ?
@@JoseSanchez-os4ut typical answer from a wash out
@@EDDIEM0NS00N this coming from a Skinny jean Nerd posing as a Skateboarder ha ha ... Your irrelevant dude you think Aaron Kyro is a Hardcore core Skateboarder right ? You guys are geeks
When I was younger there was a big straight edge scene. But they were almost more obnoxious in their efforts to show how crazy they could be without drink or drugs. Of course, none of them stayed straight edge, it was just a fashion thing in secondary school when couldn’t get served alcohol anyway and it was parallel to the hardcore music scene.
Regarding helmets, having seen the olympics requiring helmets and pads you’d think people would feel more comfortable practising in helmets and pads.
There is now that push to be a 'core skater' who doesn't take care of themselves like 'athletes'. It's so juvenile and lame.
somebody create the first STRAIGHT EDGE skateboarding team.
😆
Braille
dont
yeah, make being yourself cool again - good talk
Fully.
Love this, well done. I haven't stopped skating since 1987, I'm 52 (with tired knees) now, and still skate street and park every week. I wear a helmet all the time since Mike V made a point about how he couldn't think of a good enough reason NOT to wear one. Not cool? Pffft.
I hope to in my 50s!
I couldn't agree more with your stance. I got into drugs through people I met skating and I've basically fucked my entire life up. Still trying to figure out how to escape working minimum wage jobs when I had opportunities and was a smart kid before drugs had anything to do with it.
Drugs seem to be such a big part of skate culture that I'm actually not sure i'd want my own kids to skate. If I am lucky enough to ever sort my life out and have children...
I have spent my 25+ years in skateboarding not ever being too pressured into drugs and alcohol, but maybe that is because I had respectful friends? Drugs and substance abuse are in other sports, look at cycling or golf, it is just... for some reason... not marketed that way towards more middle class people who "dont do drugs" haha!
Or you could be a good role model in stead of blaming the whole sport, or the culture. Pointing out issues bigger than you, but doing nothing will acomplish... Well, nothing.
Also want to add that this may happen with any activity; from literature clubs to producing music, poetry slams, festivals, beyblades, videogames and what not... No matter what's your hobby, I bet you everything I own I can find a group of ppl doing It zooted.
My two cents, ppl do drugs when they feel lonely, bored and depressed. Giving kids more tools to kick the dopamine without poison is a net positive. Just be careful of who they meet, and try your best, as you would when you let them gaming time on the net. Whatever they do, get involved.
Great video. Andy Anderson is amazing. So humble. And I also agree that booze and drugs shouldn't be a primary focus in the skate community. But I think there will always be a place for it. I don't think anyone should be picked on for wearing pads ( I wear a helmet every time I go out these days) But skating, beer and punk rock all go hand in hand. It shouldn't be disregarded. Dustin Dollin seems to function perfectly well drunk.
Maybe I missed focus, but I was highlighting the peer pressure and substance abuse. I don't think having a beer to relax and not talking shit to your mates because they aren't, is perfectly fine. I had some of my best nights at uni after a few brews, maybe they would have been better without, but fond memories.
@@JoseSanchez-os4ut Cheers from Michigan!
@@Sk8Wine I’m definitely not a fan of anyone talking shit to people for not drinking or for wearing protective gear. But I will say, my favorite sessions growing up were the memories made on the backyard Mini-ramp with the boys. Drinking beers and grilling food. A lot of spills -and a lot of fun! Best memories of my life.
Thank you for this video. Fuck drugs, let's go Skate! Do not be a victim of big corporate legal dope dealers. (Alcohol and Tobaco)
My mum always said "I already pay enough taxes to the government, why would I pay more taxes through smoking" she doesn't drink either, I do.
Sobriety is when a human is at their best. All the drug promoting, demonic image skateboard graphics need a remake as well, evil images breed evil spirits.
Deffo
When you start thinking about it and noticing it more and more its insane the amount of demonic and/or disturbing imagery on decks.
For some reason drugs and alcohol are a common thing to witness at skateparks now even when theres kids present.You don't see athletes doing that in any other sport but skateboarding.When a skater dies dies from substance abuse the skate community just sweeps it under the rug.
Cuz it's not a sport. You don't like certain aspects of the lifestyle, then go away.
@@truthhurts7637 It is most certainly a sport look up the definition.
@@thrash123ful it goes well beyond a "sport". It's been a known lifestyle for much longer than being a sport.
Maybe you want to be a sport huh sport.
Running is the other major sport I have seen Alcohol use bleeding in more and more, like with now beer Miles and so on where the runners doing the events are training using stronger beer like having a Double IPA or Belgian Tripple before every single days run of 5--6 miles different from what they would use on race day and have once a week they are using some near beers for training especially for some people using brands that give themselves headaches easier if having more then 2 unlike a regular beer from same company.
Agreed. I did want to reference a number of real world scenarios where skateboarding media has most certainly swept HOW the person died under the rug. However, I have to think about a number of friends and family. Unfortunately, just like one commentator in here, some people will remain ignorant and talk sh*t until they die.
My brother needs Jesus. For myself, I started skating in fifth grade (early 80's), and skated until my college years. At which time music took over my life. But all through my skating years skateboarding completely kept me drug and alcohol free. I can remember a few skaters here and there that got drunk or high, but really for the most part everyone was straight. Skating was our drug. That's all we did. It wasn't until my late twenties that I first got high. It was music and other musicians that brought that into my life. Skateboarding was THE most positive part of my life with the exception of my relationship with Jesus. I love skateboarding, and would do it now if I didn't have a bum leg. My skater friends were also the best. You could show up in any town. Not know a soul. Skate around for a bit, and sooner or later another skater would show up and instant friends. It happened to me everywhere I went. It's sad to me to think the skate scene has changed in that. There is no question the alcohol and drugs limit your skating potential. If you're good doing that, you would be even better without. Promise. Every really dope skater I knew personally was sober. Though I can think of a couple that weren't. But they definitely weren't reaching their full potential. Sad. Drugs and alcohol steal time away from things that matter to you most. H Street, and Plan B were the sickest companies and videos ever! Flipped skating on its ear. Animal Chin years before that. Great video brother. If there's any kids watching... Don't do drugs and alcohol. It's the nectar of the nit wit's. It doesn't do anything positive in your life. Only takes away. Be a real rebel.
Jesus is definitely a safer more positive drug :)
If I was to list every skater thats gone from skating to music/skating to weed/alcohol/music/skating to harder/party drugs/music/skating less to dabbling with heroin/crack/meth/music/skating a bit to addiction/music/hardly skating to full blown addiction/music/hardly ever skating to full blown addiction/homelessness/selling all their records/selling all skate related stuff for addiction,I'd be in this comments section all day.
If you ever want to try to put a skater thats starting to dabble off drugs for life show them any documentary about Bruce Logan(There's a really iconic photo of Tony Alva throwing his logan deck towards the camera) it'll scare them to death.
Most skateboarders come from broken homes. Most of us discovered skateboarding because of it. Naturally when we hurt, we try and find a group/tribe to belong to, sometimes it can have a negative effect on people, in which they do things that conflict with their morals and values.
Agreed! Deffo why I started... Although now with the Olympics, it is a lot of talented kids from stable middle class backgrounds (Not that that wasn't the case either in the 2000s)
@@Sk8Wine we must also take into consideration the ''exceptions to the rules'' factor.
As someone that did all this stuff when i was younger i found skating was the number one thing that actually kept me from doing that kind of stuff during the day. On the average summer day i was either starting the day with a skate session or another type of session 😅. But i didnt like doing any of that while i was skating could never skate as well when i did. Id still do it later that night but if it wasnt for skating id have just been getting high all day
Too true!
Beautiful piece ❤❤❤
Thank you! 😊
No drinks no smoke no drugs
YT won't let me thumbs up, but you said it.
Really?
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Met him at CPH Open 2017, super good dude these days and massively humble! I managed to grab an interview with him at the end of my CPH 2017 coverage!
Skating culture changes just like anything else, the world is learning to be comfortable in its skin with less substance influence, its going to lead to healing globally if we stay the course possibly. (=
Deffo!
Couldn’t agree more
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Sober is a better term than Straight Edge. Straight Edge is a hardcore movement, pretty much a gang of people that go around in groups beating up people that are drinking or using drugs because they are so adamant about it & it's actually extremely lame & cringy.
I think you missed what straight edge is... That doesn't sound like the right definition. That just sounds like thugs. I don't think Minor Threat beat people up haha
I am just speaking through personal experiences growing up going to shows etc & seeing it happen 1st hand. Nothing wrong with being sober, it's actually a good thing, I was just trying to explain that "Straight Edge" peeps can & do get militant & violent just because they see a person drinking at a show or even on the street & gang up on that 1 person like 6:1. I know Minor Threat was probably the 1st band to come up with that term, nothing wrong there, I'm just saying in the SF bay area mid 2000s it was out of hand.
Wow Rob super cool🙏
one thousand percent!!!
My homies brother cracked his skull at the park and was in a coma for 2 weeks. Once he recovered he wore a helmet at the park. It was a wake up call for everyone. That lasted maybe a month or two. He stopped wearing it. Dude wasn’t used to the weight. Like for backflips out the bowl… dumb kid.
I recently bought a helmet that fit... Makes a world of difference.
Mmmmm allot to think about with this video!!, got thee old grey matter cranking!!!, here’s my 10 pence worth!!,honestly over my 38 years skating iv seen the good bad and ugly, in regards alcohol it’s been in the fringes of the scenes for me, I was straight edge up untill I was 30 and don’t remember anyone hassling me about it, in regards drugs weed has always been a big part of skateboarding, the idea of trying to skate stoned in Especially on a vert ramp just doesn’t make since to me but a know it goes on allot!!,I remember seeing a high profile and amazing skater regularly skate vert and smoke weed!! The odd time he was taking a break from weed his skating went from really good to insanely good, maybe that means something?, I smoke a bit and drink a bit but always away from skateboarding!, they just don’t mix for me!, definitely in the early 90”s with street skating being massive the weed intake seemed to go up massively and it seemed to sap the energy out of skating, all the street skaters seemed to be getting stoned 90% of the time and skating the other 10%, in regards pads and helmets it’s a weird one, in the 70”s pads and helmets were the norm it seemed,skatepark insurance must have been different then so everyone had to pad up, then in the 80”s the era of vertical pads and helmets were universally used apart from a few fringe skaters, it’s way to dangerous to go big on a vertical ramp padless ( of course clay is the exception ) just watch gavin Bokta ( sorry for the miss spelling) yes he wares a helmet but no pads,he can’t go big or fast it’s to much of a risk in regards consistency and injury!,say a little clip of gavin on a vertical ramp the other day!, fully padded up and totally ripping!!! Does that say something?? , I totally agree with you about the helmet stigma, it seems to be ok when your little to use pads and a helmet but when skaters get into there late teens sometimes they morph into a hardcore weed and alcohol tattoo skater and what iv seen there actual skateboarding suffers and of course teenagers see them and some go oooooo I want to be like that guy ( thrasher has allot to answer for in regards this!) I guess there has always been weird and odd and colourful characters in skateboarding it seems to attract them!, these same people seem to drift towards drugs, mental health problems seem to be quite prevalent in skateboarding maybe because of this? If you have mental health problem weed and alcohol can seem like the solution to the demons in the head but it’s not a good fit at all in my opinion! It makes it worse!!, anyway rob bravo for doing this video 🤟🤟
Yeah man! I am not anti-drugs or alcohol, just like I am not anti-religion... I just don't like the way over my time skateboarding it is propagandised to the kids as being cool... It won't change, because risky shit is entertaining, but when it is aimed at the yoof... I feel awkward about it.
"You think its a game!"
-- Body count
The reference is for?
Unfortunately some skaters who wear pads and helmets, judge, bully, and police, those who don't.
I am not sure I have EVER witnessed that in my 25+ years, but if it does happen it pales in comparison. I have had skateboards/food thrown at me...
Awsome
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You’re TSA shirt is👌🏽👌🏽
:') I won it in the early 00s... Good spot. It's soo long, it's like a dress! Don't make clothes like they used to.
skateboarding is my substance
Same, that and now FPV.
There is a faction of people in the skate world that are STILL clinging to this "punk rock" ideal of live fast/die young/fuck the system. I think these people are incredibly vocal, but perhaps not as many in number as they once where in years past. I think there's a place for that in skateboarding, I'm not going to pretend that attitude isn't part of the DNA of the sport, but when we reach the point of shitting on people for trying to do things to keep their bodies and minds healthy I think some people need to start taking a real look at themselves in the mirror.
Fully this! Who wants to live until their 90 with absolutely no life stories? I think it is a balance. Coincidentally I had not heard the "live fast, die young" since I was a kid at the skatepark and a local graff/skater used to spray paint that slogan. Wonder where he is now!
@@seanmckelvey6618 OG SKATERS RULE TRUE TO THE GAME !!! YOU DONTL LIKE IT YOU WERENT MEANT TO SKATE
Good drugs and brew isnt the problem. Its when you get narcissists and abusers that ruin everything. Too much of anything is bad.
I had bad experiences lately that made me lose my edge in skateboarding.
I never thought my passion would be used against me but the negativity around me just knocked me down...
Kids and teens should be allowed to experiment with everything. The problem are the adults that take advantage of them. Thats when their skateboarding or hobby of choice takes a dive and drugs/alcohol are used to numb the pain.
"Doctors" want people on medical lobotomy just the same. Drug dealers have more of a presence and they only care about their gains until their loved ones become "customers".
Just look at Michael Jackson. Did he really need to be pushed that hard by his own parents?? Mid Michael Jackson would have been plenty.
Thats my two cents...
"Guns don't kill people" - I tend to agree, as I said, I don't judge anyone wanting a beer or smoking. I did point out near the end for the link between better mental health. Interestingly they have been finding in studies a number of illegal drugs to possibly help, for those who are depressed, will be interesting to see where the studies take us. This opinion piece was more aimed at the marketing and peer pressure within skateboarding.
Great vid. I could never stand any of that jackass and piss drunks crap. It was so sad and tiring through the early 2000’s watching every talented skate kid get sponsored, move to Hollywood, and turn into the exact same cookie cutter party burn out.
This is sadly the truth... Similar to footballers in the UK who earn millions, have an injury and then end up working at their local football club earning minimum wage again.
Andy is probably one of the highest paid and most respected skater in the world right now so I’d say the helmet thing isn’t stopping him. Drugs and alcohol are part of the culture because of the culture it came out of. Skateboarding culture has changed and evolved so much that you can participate in skateboarding without ever being around the drug side of it. That being said some people skate because they saw it and thought it was cool and there are many of us who started because of trauma and not fitting in regular society. I hope skateboarding doesn’t forget its roots and remains a place where weird kids with shit parents can always fit in and be dictators of the culture too. Saying it hasn’t changed is absurd though bruv. We see 5 year olds skating with their dad at the park now. Drugs ain’t going anywhere but they aren’t chasing you so it should be really simple to stay away from them if they aren’t for you.
Skateboarding did not come from substance abuse. Check all your facts bro.
Andy seemed Cracked out on that episode
OK
@@Sk8Wine watch it again. He’s sweating, can’t keep still and seems emotional unstable. Tony seems to be picking up on it I reckon. I love Andy, no judgement. But would you be surprised if Andy enjoys psychedelics? Looks like he needs a good night sleep in the interview.
@Gunjaroo Did you watch the whole video? He's literally skating up to the point the interview starts, like they're sitting there waiting on him to finish & come in. So that's why he's sweating lol. And he's clearly a sensitive guy. He's talked multiple times about how he had really closed himself off from the world & his emotions while trying to put his part together & now that it's done, all the emotions are flooding in. You're just making wild assumptions based on ignorance, and I mean that in the nicest way possible.
@@ioncewasmikey if you think so. as a recovering addict and someone whos friends with lots of addicts and drug users...he dont seem 100% sober...i could be wrong but i did watch the entire thing. he ain't normal Andy. I love Andy sober or not. im not judging. just pointing his odd behaviour out.
@Gunjaroo But when the first piece of "evidence" you brought up was that he was sweating when they clearly show him skating right before the interview... simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
In taking another look, he doesn't seem overly fidgety or anything to me either.
There are only a couple moments when he seems emotional, but I wouldn't call it unstable. One moment is when talking about a friend & mentor he lost & the other was when recalling a moment when he was scared for his mother's health, and he follows it up by explaining what I'd mentioned before with him bottling up his emotions.
I took another look at your comment too, and no, I wouldn't be surprised if he uses psychedelics. But I definitely don't think he's tripping during the interview, nor are psychedelics generally an addictive substance. The guy clearly cares about his health & keeping his brain safe, so I'd be very surprised if he's doing anything to put those things in serious jeopardy.
I've got a fair bit of experience with addiction & knowing & seeing people with addiction problems... I don't see anything in that interview that leads me to believe he's struggling with drug addiction. I'd encourage you to give it another watch & see if you come to the same conclusion you did before.
And I wish you the best in your recovery, man. May you have the strength to stay sober. 🙏
How about you worry about your own life and everyone else will worry about theirs?
Agreed
Because substance abusers affect the lives of other people, not just themselves.
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Seek help for that Magnum PI stache? Its tuff af
Yes
Skateboarding IS a form of substance abuse.
Make a video explanation, I will watch. I don't disagree, but living is substance abuse too...
You're not Jonny Giger 🤔
No sorry, wrong address
Quite a mustache you have there.
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I don't think moralizing about substance abuse in skateboarding is a good idea. It's always been an open, free and diverse scene and I think that's good.
A personal stance of "I'm not into that, it's stupid" I respect, but saying "skateboarding should be against substance abuse" is going too far.
Personally, I don't believe in promoting substance abuse, but I don't believe in condemning it either. A lot of people who use both skating and substance abuse as an outlet would lead an even more destructive life if they weren't into skating. Reducing tolerance of substance abuse would alienate those people. It would be more constructive to use skateboarding as a place where people can be open and real about their experiences and let everyone make up their own opinions.
Yeah, so I am against the stigmatisation of people who are straight edge more than the out and out judgement of people's personal decisions.
overall a good video and a topic that's not talked about enough but please stop saying "alcohol and drugs". Alcohol is a drug ..and a really, really bad one too. Maybe switch it to "alcohol and other drugs" or just say "drugs" but talk about alcohol in this context too, so everyone knows, that u include alcohol in that. It's complicated, iknow, but it's really important that we as a society acknowledge the fact, that alcohol is one of the worst drugs known to men, not just for the one abusing it, but for everyone of us.
Good point. I always remember Professor Nut for the UK government got fired because he placed alcohol as way more harmful than many other illegal drugs.
"skateboarding" is what needs to get diiched. Skate culture is wayy to full of it self. From what I understood, Andy did mushrooms, was I wrong about that?
No idea!
@@Sk8Wine Alright, well it works for the skate I guess. Andy's killing it.
@@mikehemens9359I wouldn't doubt if he did, but that's not really your typical addictive substance that gets abused.
Nah, free to choose whatever, however, and whenever.
Yeah this already smells like more woke gatekeeping shit. AKA Marxism
Whoosh, that is you missing the point. Keeping doing you though.
@@toddt. Never let a man boy with no chin talk down to you like that.
and you need to ditch the stache
Would you fancy more then? 😘
who gives a damn do whatever makes you happy, some people dont need help, enjoy your your life do drugs get laid get stunts and sober when u get older so you can die healthy 🤦♂️
Whoosh NASA called and asked for their satellite back. This was about peer pressure into self destruction and nothing else.
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Theres a lot of weed in skating
There's a lot of weed in everything!
@@Sk8Wine true man
Viva La Raza✊🏾🗡️🪓🐦🔥
Gracias wey
@@Sk8Wine 🤎De Nada Perro
the culture is extremely toxic all around. you can't say that though or you're a kook apparently.
Yep!
Jesus saves!
Haha
I feel andy is is the last person who should be promoting helmets. He loves to do super gimmicky stuff like special grip tape decks wheels ect. and his whole powell family friendly image is really fake and in authentic. But somone like gonz is great gonz wears a helmet and RIPS and never even mentions it becuae its not a gimmick for him. he doesn't wear a helmet skating flt ground like andy he wears one when needed.
I have met Andy a number of times... He is a legend and it isn't a gimmick. Stick to being Mr. Nobody online though 👍
Dude wears a helmet & it gets pointed out & made fun of because it's not the norm. He gets asked questions about it so he's going to talk about it. He gets a lot of exposure so he's the perfect person to promote it. What a weird take from a guy with a helmet on in his pfp lol
"Beer is Proof that God loves us and wants us too be happy" Benjamin Franklin
OK haha
"Beer makes you stupid, if you drink beer you are become stupid" - Oppenheimer
yeah we need more crying skateboarders 😂
More whiners please.
Skateboarding is not a mainstream sport. We don't want it to evolve into a wholesome activity. Normie kids should do theater or football. There should never be a safe space in skateboarding. The world is full of bs for regular people, and now we have to sanitize skateboarding, too?
No thanks.
Lol sorry buddy, but when your sport is in the Olympics, it's mainstream. Honestly, it's been mainstream since the late 90s. People can do whatever they want whether they skate or not, it's not a bad thing to take care of yourself.
@ioncewasmikey I agree, buddy. But my opinion is skateboarding on leash isn't at the core of skating, and it never will be. The healthy and inclusive attitude is the exact reason everyone fled the sports their parents played and found skateboarding in the first place. The outlaw skater will always be the emulated skater. No one wants to run out and buy the product of the guy who won gold at the Olympics. Just participating will probably hurt their board sales.
@@Resurrected-Silverbeard You never know, things are always changing.
Have you been in a coma?
@@Sk8Winewho are you talking to and what are you talking about?
We really can't normalize grown men crying.
Don't even try
You should seek some help with that mentality, really, you will end up in a world of hurt if you follow that.
@@Sk8Wine it's not normal to do it in front of other men, and especially not on camera.
But since you think you're(skatewhiner) the leading expert on everything ,and now our new shithouse psychologist... I guess we better listen.
Let it out brother. Men hold too much in and we need to normalize men feeling emotions
@@dayneolsen8066 not in public. Maybe go do it privately. That's all
@@truthhurts7637 na bro, you need help, and from a man to man who is struggling. You need your brother's and be able to feel vulnerable around them. Otherwise they aren't brothers BOOMER
does this guy ever get to the point? or does he just keep repeating himself 1000 times
Substance abuse in skateboarding is a significant issue that needs to be addressed for the well-being of both the individual skaters and the broader skateboarding community. Skateboarding, at its core, is a sport that demands physical and mental precision, balance, coordination, and resilience. However, the culture around skateboarding has sometimes glamorized or normalized substance use, leading many athletes, especially younger ones, down a harmful path. Drugs and alcohol impair judgment, reaction times, and physical performance, increasing the risk of serious injuries and limiting a skater's potential to progress in their craft. Beyond the physical risks, substance abuse can have long-term negative effects on mental health, including depression and anxiety, which can be particularly damaging in a sport that often serves as an outlet for personal expression and emotional release. Moreover, substance abuse tarnishes the image of skateboarding, perpetuating harmful stereotypes and deterring brands, sponsors, and the general public from fully embracing its value as a legitimate and inspiring athletic discipline. By overcoming substance abuse, skateboarders can reach their full potential, set a positive example for younger skaters, and help shift the culture of skateboarding toward a healthier, more supportive environment. Overcoming this challenge means creating a future where skateboarding is celebrated not only for its creativity and skill but also for the physical and mental strength of the athletes behind it.
@@Sk8Wine yeah well my AI detector shows that is 100% AI generated. So you have zero sincerity
Completely understand your sentiment here, but you gotta give credit where it’s due. Substance abuse with skateboarding was much more prevalent in a completely different timeline.
These days, the level of skill in skateboarding has risen drastically BECAUSE of the activity itself. You often see this with most athletic sports/activities through new innovation and natural progression of time.
If anything, a lot of the ambassadors for skateboarding promote health, sobriety and fitness these days. We haven’t seen much of this “toxic masculinity,” that you’re talking about as of late.
I agree, one thing that for me is a good thing. More talk on men's mental health too.
And that comming from sk8wine, tho ironic very true 👌 good one
It's a childish play on words with the word "whine" and has absolutely nothing to do with the promotion or intake of alcohol. Sk8 wine makes no sense what so ever... Sk8 whine... Makes more sense. Explaining jokes isn't funny. I do have some non-alcoholic beer reviews though!
@@Sk8Wine i like the name of the channel it is like a responsibly enjoyed glass of sk8 content when the time is right. I felt a bit out of place leaving the comment bc it is such a serious issue and I’m pointing out the channel name haha but it was purely ment like, if this is comming from sk8wine than one should pay even more attention to what is said. Like the vid a lot
I have never seen a link between skateboarding and drug use. 2 different disciplines.
Drug taking - also an Olympic discipline
Skateboarding used to be rebellious, and now it's in the Olympics; what a shame, it's just mamby pamby now.
Yeah
Quitting is for Quitters 🤘😎🛹
Skateboarding at least!