The literal single typing weakness it has. Ghost is just broken in general early game due to most Pokemon being limited to Normal type moves at low levels so being able to hard wall them helps immensely. Also being able to take nothing from Hyper Beams later on is nice.
Crits actually ignore stat changes in all gens not just gen 1. The only difference is that in gen 1 only crits ignore stat changes that would increase their damage as well. What you said was technically correct but I just felt an urge to clarify.
Apparently if you trade a magneton over from gen 2 to gen 1 it thinks the steel typing is fire typing. Might be neat to do a run with it and see how that effects things if at all.
This makes me think of 4 89 4, the Normal/Ghost glitch mon of Yellow. Sadly it’s Ghost typing is a false type, but it’s still very OP stat wise & gets Swords Dance…
@@Peelster1 What I mean by this is that some glitch Pokémon will have a type listed that is fraudulent and won’t result in them having that typings effectiveness or weaknesses. In 4 89 4’s case, his Ghost typing is one of those fraudulent types, allowing it to get hit by Normal Attacks. Another case of this would be ‘r ‘r 4, whose falsely listed as a Fighting Type when his effectiveness points to him being a Water type instead, like Politied, the Time Capsule Pokémon used to acquire him unless you use GameShark Codes.
@@Peelster1 According to Glitch City Laboratories, both of 4 89 4 are glitch types (that happen to share a name with real types). It means 4 89 4 has literally no weaknesses, resistances or immunities, and it does not get STAB from anything.
30:51 That fight against Koga is just as much an example of the importance of EXP management as it is of randomness. Normal Snorlax was losing its badge boosts due to leveling up before Venomoth. GhostLax only leveled up at the end of battle. Edit: I got confused about why their EXP was different when I remembered this was minimum battles, but it looks like you routed Erika before Koga for normal Snorlax.
Yeah that was a factor too. I decided to avoid Koga until later for NormLax because I expected trouble there. Going straight there with Poison/paralysis status would have been best
I fucking love this - any time I see someone using a Ghostlax I am here for it! Back in the days of ORAS battle spot I had the insane idea to build a status-move only team for doubles where a Ghostlax was the ace in my team, and the other mons were basically fully dedicated to getting him set up before doing anything else. Firstly , there was a Gourgeist with trick-or-treat to give Snorlax the Normal/Ghost typing. Secondly, there was Shuckle - who would share his defensive stats with Snorlax by using guard split , giving Snorlax some absolutely insane base defense stats. Finally, there was Banette with Skill Swap and a mega stone - Mega Banette had the prankster ability, which once it got swapped onto Snorlax gave all his moves +1 priority since the whole team was built with only status moves. Then there was Snorlax's item & moveset - Chesto Berry, Rest, Recycle, Stockpile and Curse. Chesto-Resto & Recycle is an absolutely broken combo in its own right, but think about adding that to a prankster pokemon which effectively guaranteed a full heal at the start of every other turn, which also has a +3 def & sp.def multiplier gained by maxing out stockpile, which itself is stacked on top of the shared defensive stats from shuckle AND the type immunities gained from the Normal/Ghost typing gained from trick-or-treat. It transformed Snorlax from being a standard defensive wall into an outright immovable object. However, since the other pokemon in the team were pretty frail all things considered, Snorlax also needed a way to do damage too, but on a first glance at the moveset you'd think it doesnt have that... OR DOES IT?! This is where the final part of the insanity of this strategy came in - by adding the ghost type with trick-or-treat, it didnt just give Snorlax the type immunities - it changed Curse from the non-damaging variant of the move which ghost types CAN'T use, into the damaging variant that ghost types CAN use! Once snorlax was fully set up id use curse, rest off all the damage, wake up with the chesto berry, recycle to get the berry back, then rinse-repeat until my opponents lost the match or quit 😂. Sometimes i'd even opt to rest for the full two turns to conserve pp. If any of my other team members survived the setup process i'd use them to inflict burn or poison damage to whittle the other team down even faster too. Sure, the strategy was fairly easy to counter, and failing to get Ghostlax fully set up meant i'd be guaranteed a loss, but I had a huge amount of fun on the occasions where I did manage to execute it.
That whole strat sounds insanely broken if you can set it up! I need to try Gen 2 GhostLax with Curse to see how broken that becomes. Because Rest +Curse sounds broken AF.
What's nuts is I remember seeing a video on this strategy, or a very close derivative of it. No offensive moves, hanging on a Ghost-type CurseLax to do damage. An inspiration. 😁
Meanwhile from Gen 2 onwards Snorlax would just curse at you for this change, not understanding why it now loses half it's health instead of gaining Attack and Defense
Wow,that was some interesting concept to explore,and the results are equally interesting too.😊 Ghostlax was basically having a great time especially with the early game and the mid game in which the random ai is more dominant,but due to bad luck with the champion, and using a lot tms ,it lost to Normlax. But in trems of real time ,both were kind similar.😊 By the way congratulations on having your first child, and I hope that you're feeling better now😊. I think that this kind of challenge needs a part 2 with Celfable , because after all gengar is Celfable's shadow.😁
I wonder if you could have gotten away with not setting up absolutely everything against the Sandslash, but only the Hardens and one Amnesia, and taken Alakazam through that to get to Exeggutor and finish the Amnesias there? It would have been two fewer turns of risk, which might have made the difference. But yeah, I think the luck factor was somewhat excessive here. A 10% chance to freeze should have procced WAY sooner than it did.
I have a huge live commentary as I tried every possible combo of setups with Hardens, try to KO Sandslash and setup, try to freeze Sandslash, try to freeze Alakazam. The problem is that either you get KOed by Alakazam using Psychic or Psybeam most of the time, or it uses Kinesis to lower accuracy killing you for the rest of the fight. Also, without the Amnesias setup before Kazam, it takes way too long to KO it to get through to Exeggutor
26:30 I had to go back to check why you did like 5x more damage on Venomoth with ghostlax… 496 attack wow. You got like 15 badge boosts that’s so funny. Turns out getting hit by Psychic every turn (while being lucky enough to avoid crits) was a huge advantage!
That sounds insane and now I want to try it. Something like Venusaur could technically go Swords Dance, Growth, Defense Curl (Gen 2) and Double Team to have 4 boosting moves. Couldn't hit ghosts, but everything else could be in big trouble as long as the DT luck works out
Yeah... Ghost type on anything that isn't Gengar would be pretty damn good in Gen 1, as Normal is the best type in Gen 1. If it's a Normal/Ghost type, it would be instant top tier.
Normal/ghost is busted in gen 1, especially if you have access to good moves. Looking forward to ghostlax taking down the competition. I also have a clarifying question about your worst possible stat runs in both RBY and GSC - do you lock stat xp / evs at 0 as well? For as few battles you do, i wouldnt expect it to matter so much or add variations in gameplay. Just a curiosity on my part
@RBYPokemonChallenges gotcha. Thr original reason why i asked was because I've been half expecting some mons' stats being higher in one category despite that species having base stats lower than another (a mon having a higher attack in-game than speed despite having a base 70 attack and base 80 speed, for example) in one of your videos. Quickly checking one of your Mew runs, there's barely a variance in stats, besides HP. For how little stat xp you get, it makes sense there isn't that much variation. Looking at the stat calculation math, taking the square root of your stat xp and then dividing by 4 doesn't mean a lot when you only have a few hundred or thousand xp in any given stat
Nah it means he/she will be stunting on the community by doing 0 DVs runs, Growth, Milk Drink and Charm are a pretty good starting moveset, I just need to figure out what it's one attacking move will be, and of course whether it will have min or max PP
Here me out: MAXIMUM battles -Fight every trainer -take the longest realistic route through grass patches (no need to snake through and hit every tile, just no shortcuts) -no running from wild Pokemon -no repels -if applicable, always hold an item that increases wild encounters -if applicable, you must rematch trainers that call you -no fly/dig/teleport unless necessary to progress Can't think of anyt other rules right now, it could probably use some polish, but you get the gist I'm sure.
Title: How SLOWLY can you beat Pokemon Yellow? Maximum Battles Challenge Description: There are lots of speedrunners in Pokemon, but what if we tried to beat the game he slowest way possible? What if we had to defeat every trainer, encounter every wild pokemon, and catch/evolve a Living Dex with every possible Pokemon before progressing, all while bannig TMs and items? Enter, the Pokemon Slowrun, perhaps the most painfully long Pokemon Challenge in history! Sounds like an awesome April Fools video!
What are your thoughts on doing alola pokemon in yellow? I was thinking ghost/fire Marowak, dragon/grass exegguator, electric/rock Golem and psychic/electric Raichu. All these are current types in gen 1. The fairy, dark and steel types might be a little weird and broken to add
Absolutely. They're in my future plans and would likely be done in a side-by-side versus format against their standard forms in Gen 1 just to further clarify how much better (or worse) they actually are!
Man... I was COMPLETELY convinced I did the Brock fight on Minimum battles on 0DVs but either I'm tripping or forgot I took an optional battle because I'm just not able to replicate that at all. Or I just got ridiculous luck and didn't recognize it. At first I thought I just did it on Red/Blue, but upon retrying it... Defense Curl and higher level seems to make that fight even more impossible. Or I was just getting flustered and playing badly. I will say the battle seems SLIGHTLY less impossible if you burn all 20 Amnesias on Wild pokemon without killing any before heading into the battle. Even then, perhaps I'm on a wild goose chase as victory seems to require all kinds of hax to let you still have a good number of Rests for Onix. Perhaps this is all a waste of everyone's time, but I want to keep trying the method with Amnesia at 0PP and see if it gets me anywhere. Not that it would ever matter... with all the resets you have to take, in a practical run, you're so much better off fighting Rival 1A or the light years trainer or... something like that.
Yeah, in .y original video in 2022, I burned all Amnesias and then went in with only Rest and Headbutt, so all the resets showing were with that strategy.. In yellow, I think Snorlax is very close on 0 DVs with just a couple of optional battles. The main point comes down to you have to struggle no matter what at the end, so the real key is outspeeding Geodude
What does "ad free final edit" mean? Anyway love the concept, I did something similar in pokemon infinite fusion and normal/ghost definitely dominates gen 1
Wife is at about 2 months of pregnancy right now, but it's super excited and confusing, and stressful, but I'm excited beyond all else! Thank you for the support!!!
As good as ghost/normal lax is, I think it would be right above tauros and not be completely broken due to the fact that lax could actually eat tauros's attacks pretty well. Its biggest weaknesses were the special side as most lax's were reflect rest. So pokemon like eggy and jynx could threaten it.
I can see that. I think the ability to switch in to Tauros and not have to feel the beam or the slam, and switching in on Exeggutor or Cloyster going boom sounds like a fun thing as well.
Coming back to this after playing Infinite Fusion with a Blissey/Cofagrigus (physically defensive Gen 5 ghost type) fusion, and I feel I can say that Pokemon can't handle a bulky Normal/Ghost with good recovery moves. That thing sits on legendaries until the Strugle to death or get in the Pokeball.
Hey man, found your vids recently and I gotta say, very underappreciated channel, love the spins you put on these challenges. That being said I have some criticisms, and Don't take this personally, but you have quite a lot of streches where no dialogue is being said and it becomes boring, also there are some parts that are not really integral to the video that could be cut out. I'm sure you heard this comparison before but you should really take a look at Jrose's videos and pace your videos more like his. Anyways I hope you continue making these videos and growing your channel!
Since you do all your challenge runs at 0 DVs, would you ever consider doing a Max DV run to see how much certain Pokemon improve, and how many can suddenly do minimum battles?
@@RBYPokemonChallenges You're right about that, and ghost Snorlax is still overpowered in a regular playthrough anyways due to most Pokemon using normal moves.
Here is an idea give Mewtwo the Arcues treatment doing typing changes depending on the tablet it is holding. In this regard giving mewtwo runs under each typing while adding moves for the typings lacking ie bug, ghost, dragon, poison off the top of my head that are at least equal or close to equal to the power of the move psychic.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Amnesia being a double Calm Mind in Gen 1 makes it a legitimate option. Not to mention making the really physically defensive Rock types trivial.
It pains me to see how badly everybody bags on Lt. Surge because he was the hardest gym leader on my first playthrough of Blue when it came out. Surge and Misty gave me some pretty big problems back in the day.
Yeah, it's a glitch I Gen 1 where the move does no damage but still "hits" and stops you from moving. In my first test run of GhostLax mentioned in the video, I actually got KOed by Jessie and James's Ekans where it poisoned me and then kept using Wrap, preventing me from moving for like 10 turns until I dies
I'm working on a distributable *base* version of my overlay without frills that I could share out. Wouldn't be as quick and easy as Scott's overlay, but would give a base for others to start from if they so choose.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Actually it would probably be significantly worse in singles since Curse is the main reason Snorlax was the single strongest pokemon in gen2 competitive battles. It would be busted in single player though.
I'm a bit confused... I get the Brock fight is essentially impossible with a normal Snorlax, but I don't understand the cut away without Lick, accidentally having Surf, etc. Iirc Bide can't hit ghost in Gen 1,and I know his extreme amount of Full Heals is stupid as hell and Struggle might be needed anyway, but what happened?
Crazy idea, try having a bad pokemon (caterpie) with insane typing and moves (dragon psychic or something crazy) with great moves, against an insane pokemon (Dragonite) with crap typing and moves
To each their own, I suppose. I started this channel specifically about minimum battles, and I only really abandon it when it's obviously not going to work.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Congratulations man!! So happy for you and your growing family :) I guess the baby pokemon addition all depends on the baby :D Baby comes out kicking - tyrogue Baby comes out looking adorable - Cleffa/Pichu Baby comes out massive - Munchlax :D Congrats again!!
You killed Snorlax and brought him back like a necromancer.
The things we do for science! (and Pokemon content 😂)
U bastard
Tbf they did the same to Primape😅
Snorlax is a good Pokemon in general, Adding the Ghost type however makes it broken as it covers the few weaknesses Snorlax had
That is the main idea at least.
The literal single typing weakness it has. Ghost is just broken in general early game due to most Pokemon being limited to Normal type moves at low levels so being able to hard wall them helps immensely. Also being able to take nothing from Hyper Beams later on is nice.
Machamp one shots..
@@iSlutCake_only2genders Depending if controlled by human players or a bad AI through
But there are basically no situations where you take damage from fighting moves, Bruno doesn't even have good AI so he just hits randomly
Just when i thought everything could be done in RBY, you come out with something fresh.
Bravo 👏👏👏
This was fun as an idea.
Crits actually ignore stat changes in all gens not just gen 1. The only difference is that in gen 1 only crits ignore stat changes that would increase their damage as well. What you said was technically correct but I just felt an urge to clarify.
For sure. I was specifically meaning that raising our own stats even with BBG completely gets ignored on a crit, same for our Harden/Amnesia
Apparently if you trade a magneton over from gen 2 to gen 1 it thinks the steel typing is fire typing. Might be neat to do a run with it and see how that effects things if at all.
That would be very interesting to test out!
It'd be like playing with a very slow (and grounded) Heat Room.
This makes me think of 4 89 4, the Normal/Ghost glitch mon of Yellow. Sadly it’s Ghost typing is a false type, but it’s still very OP stat wise & gets Swords Dance…
Some glitch mons are upcoming my friend 😂
Ghost typing is a false type for 4 89 4? Could you explain? It's Bulbapedia page mentions nothing about that.
@@Peelster1 What I mean by this is that some glitch Pokémon will have a type listed that is fraudulent and won’t result in them having that typings effectiveness or weaknesses. In 4 89 4’s case, his Ghost typing is one of those fraudulent types, allowing it to get hit by Normal Attacks.
Another case of this would be ‘r ‘r 4, whose falsely listed as a Fighting Type when his effectiveness points to him being a Water type instead, like Politied, the Time Capsule Pokémon used to acquire him unless you use GameShark Codes.
@@Peelster1 According to Glitch City Laboratories, both of 4 89 4 are glitch types (that happen to share a name with real types). It means 4 89 4 has literally no weaknesses, resistances or immunities, and it does not get STAB from anything.
30:51 That fight against Koga is just as much an example of the importance of EXP management as it is of randomness. Normal Snorlax was losing its badge boosts due to leveling up before Venomoth. GhostLax only leveled up at the end of battle.
Edit: I got confused about why their EXP was different when I remembered this was minimum battles, but it looks like you routed Erika before Koga for normal Snorlax.
Yeah that was a factor too. I decided to avoid Koga until later for NormLax because I expected trouble there. Going straight there with Poison/paralysis status would have been best
I fucking love this - any time I see someone using a Ghostlax I am here for it!
Back in the days of ORAS battle spot I had the insane idea to build a status-move only team for doubles where a Ghostlax was the ace in my team, and the other mons were basically fully dedicated to getting him set up before doing anything else.
Firstly , there was a Gourgeist with trick-or-treat to give Snorlax the Normal/Ghost typing. Secondly, there was Shuckle - who would share his defensive stats with Snorlax by using guard split , giving Snorlax some absolutely insane base defense stats. Finally, there was Banette with Skill Swap and a mega stone - Mega Banette had the prankster ability, which once it got swapped onto Snorlax gave all his moves +1 priority since the whole team was built with only status moves.
Then there was Snorlax's item & moveset - Chesto Berry, Rest, Recycle, Stockpile and Curse.
Chesto-Resto & Recycle is an absolutely broken combo in its own right, but think about adding that to a prankster pokemon which effectively guaranteed a full heal at the start of every other turn, which also has a +3 def & sp.def multiplier gained by maxing out stockpile, which itself is stacked on top of the shared defensive stats from shuckle AND the type immunities gained from the Normal/Ghost typing gained from trick-or-treat. It transformed Snorlax from being a standard defensive wall into an outright immovable object.
However, since the other pokemon in the team were pretty frail all things considered, Snorlax also needed a way to do damage too, but on a first glance at the moveset you'd think it doesnt have that... OR DOES IT?! This is where the final part of the insanity of this strategy came in - by adding the ghost type with trick-or-treat, it didnt just give Snorlax the type immunities - it changed Curse from the non-damaging variant of the move which ghost types CAN'T use, into the damaging variant that ghost types CAN use! Once snorlax was fully set up id use curse, rest off all the damage, wake up with the chesto berry, recycle to get the berry back, then rinse-repeat until my opponents lost the match or quit 😂. Sometimes i'd even opt to rest for the full two turns to conserve pp. If any of my other team members survived the setup process i'd use them to inflict burn or poison damage to whittle the other team down even faster too.
Sure, the strategy was fairly easy to counter, and failing to get Ghostlax fully set up meant i'd be guaranteed a loss, but I had a huge amount of fun on the occasions where I did manage to execute it.
That whole strat sounds insanely broken if you can set it up! I need to try Gen 2 GhostLax with Curse to see how broken that becomes. Because Rest +Curse sounds broken AF.
What's nuts is I remember seeing a video on this strategy, or a very close derivative of it. No offensive moves, hanging on a Ghost-type CurseLax to do damage. An inspiration. 😁
Damn, Hisuian Zoroark gained a lot of weight.
Yeah, he really let himself go...
Ghost Snorlax in Gen 1 sounds absolutely frightening 😳😳😳
I thought so too, but in the end it might be cursed
Meanwhile from Gen 2 onwards Snorlax would just curse at you for this change, not understanding why it now loses half it's health instead of gaining Attack and Defense
@@sephikong8323 that's what amnesia lax is for
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@@RBYPokemonChallenges Abigail from Stardew Valley wants to know your location.
Wow,that was some interesting concept to explore,and the results are equally interesting too.😊
Ghostlax was basically having a great time especially with the early game and the mid game in which the random ai is more dominant,but due to bad luck with the champion, and using a lot tms ,it lost to Normlax. But in trems of real time ,both were kind similar.😊
By the way congratulations on having your first child, and I hope that you're feeling better now😊.
I think that this kind of challenge needs a part 2 with Celfable , because after all gengar is Celfable's shadow.😁
Yes!!!! That sounds awesome!!!
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Go for it😁. I'm looking forward to this run .
I wonder if you could have gotten away with not setting up absolutely everything against the Sandslash, but only the Hardens and one Amnesia, and taken Alakazam through that to get to Exeggutor and finish the Amnesias there? It would have been two fewer turns of risk, which might have made the difference.
But yeah, I think the luck factor was somewhat excessive here. A 10% chance to freeze should have procced WAY sooner than it did.
I have a huge live commentary as I tried every possible combo of setups with Hardens, try to KO Sandslash and setup, try to freeze Sandslash, try to freeze Alakazam. The problem is that either you get KOed by Alakazam using Psychic or Psybeam most of the time, or it uses Kinesis to lower accuracy killing you for the rest of the fight. Also, without the Amnesias setup before Kazam, it takes way too long to KO it to get through to Exeggutor
an already good saturday made even better with an rby pokemon challenges upload!
Thank you! hope you enjoy some shenanigans lol
26:30 I had to go back to check why you did like 5x more damage on Venomoth with ghostlax… 496 attack wow. You got like 15 badge boosts that’s so funny. Turns out getting hit by Psychic every turn (while being lucky enough to avoid crits) was a huge advantage!
Oh yeah, stacking badge boosts is completely OP
Can you beat pokemon yellow only using quadruple badge boost glitch / struggle strats?
That sounds insane and now I want to try it. Something like Venusaur could technically go Swords Dance, Growth, Defense Curl (Gen 2) and Double Team to have 4 boosting moves. Couldn't hit ghosts, but everything else could be in big trouble as long as the DT luck works out
Yeah... Ghost type on anything that isn't Gengar would be pretty damn good in Gen 1, as Normal is the best type in Gen 1. If it's a Normal/Ghost type, it would be instant top tier.
In competitive l, this Pokemon would literally destroy everything and get banned from OU
Normal/ghost is busted in gen 1, especially if you have access to good moves. Looking forward to ghostlax taking down the competition.
I also have a clarifying question about your worst possible stat runs in both RBY and GSC - do you lock stat xp / evs at 0 as well? For as few battles you do, i wouldnt expect it to matter so much or add variations in gameplay. Just a curiosity on my part
Very interesting take.. I'd like to see zero stat XP aka EVs however that would be impossible in actuality due to required battles
@@adventureoflinkmk2if you have gamehook, pkhex, or are hacking the game directly, I'd have to imagine there's a way to disable stat xp accumulation
I don't lock stat exp at 0, since that ends up being consistent among all runs. But a no stat exp run could be interesting.
@RBYPokemonChallenges gotcha. Thr original reason why i asked was because I've been half expecting some mons' stats being higher in one category despite that species having base stats lower than another (a mon having a higher attack in-game than speed despite having a base 70 attack and base 80 speed, for example) in one of your videos. Quickly checking one of your Mew runs, there's barely a variance in stats, besides HP. For how little stat xp you get, it makes sense there isn't that much variation. Looking at the stat calculation math, taking the square root of your stat xp and then dividing by 4 doesn't mean a lot when you only have a few hundred or thousand xp in any given stat
Love the Scott’s thoughts display you’re using
He helped me setup game hook initially. I coded my own overlay, but definitely owe a lot to his help and thew Gamehook team!
So, you had one mono type Normal type and one duel Normal / Ghost type Snorlax? Why not do a THIRD run with a MONO TYPE Ghost Snorlax?
You're getting ahead of me 😂
Congratulations on the baby love the videos keep up the awesome content
Thanks so much!! I will do my best to keep it coming. It's great to have a passion project like this channel and so many people enjoying it with me!
poor baby, not even born and already called a pathetic talentless bozo by his dad (that's what 0 dv means)
Damn.
Nah it means he/she will be stunting on the community by doing 0 DVs runs, Growth, Milk Drink and Charm are a pretty good starting moveset, I just need to figure out what it's one attacking move will be, and of course whether it will have min or max PP
I love that the n wraps around the screen XD
Yeah, long names i Gamehook kind of break Gen 1.... You can actually put in up to 10 characters, but the game only usually allows 7.
Type swap is a sick playlist option for future vids.
You could also put pokemon stadium versions in.
Would love to see a stadium horsee run.
Agree, type swaps and extra versions could be a very fun run concept.
Do you have a list of the music you use for your videos? Id really like to identify that epic opening song.
Here me out: MAXIMUM battles
-Fight every trainer
-take the longest realistic route through grass patches (no need to snake through and hit every tile, just no shortcuts)
-no running from wild Pokemon
-no repels
-if applicable, always hold an item that increases wild encounters
-if applicable, you must rematch trainers that call you
-no fly/dig/teleport unless necessary to progress
Can't think of anyt other rules right now, it could probably use some polish, but you get the gist I'm sure.
Title: How SLOWLY can you beat Pokemon Yellow? Maximum Battles Challenge
Description: There are lots of speedrunners in Pokemon, but what if we tried to beat the game he slowest way possible? What if we had to defeat every trainer, encounter every wild pokemon, and catch/evolve a Living Dex with every possible Pokemon before progressing, all while bannig TMs and items? Enter, the Pokemon Slowrun, perhaps the most painfully long Pokemon Challenge in history!
Sounds like an awesome April Fools video!
@@RBYPokemonChallenges also no speedup allowed 😂😂😂
What are your thoughts on doing alola pokemon in yellow? I was thinking ghost/fire Marowak, dragon/grass exegguator, electric/rock Golem and psychic/electric Raichu. All these are current types in gen 1. The fairy, dark and steel types might be a little weird and broken to add
Absolutely. They're in my future plans and would likely be done in a side-by-side versus format against their standard forms in Gen 1 just to further clarify how much better (or worse) they actually are!
Headbutt doesn't flinch until gen 2
Nope it flinches in Gen 1. Yours thinking of Rock Slide, my guy
What an oddly specific question to be answered to be answered in an hour and a half long video
And yet, it must be answered
Man... I was COMPLETELY convinced I did the Brock fight on Minimum battles on 0DVs but either I'm tripping or forgot I took an optional battle because I'm just not able to replicate that at all. Or I just got ridiculous luck and didn't recognize it. At first I thought I just did it on Red/Blue, but upon retrying it... Defense Curl and higher level seems to make that fight even more impossible. Or I was just getting flustered and playing badly.
I will say the battle seems SLIGHTLY less impossible if you burn all 20 Amnesias on Wild pokemon without killing any before heading into the battle. Even then, perhaps I'm on a wild goose chase as victory seems to require all kinds of hax to let you still have a good number of Rests for Onix.
Perhaps this is all a waste of everyone's time, but I want to keep trying the method with Amnesia at 0PP and see if it gets me anywhere. Not that it would ever matter... with all the resets you have to take, in a practical run, you're so much better off fighting Rival 1A or the light years trainer or... something like that.
Yeah, in .y original video in 2022, I burned all Amnesias and then went in with only Rest and Headbutt, so all the resets showing were with that strategy.. In yellow, I think Snorlax is very close on 0 DVs with just a couple of optional battles. The main point comes down to you have to struggle no matter what at the end, so the real key is outspeeding Geodude
Now i want to figure out how to do this so i can see how wicked it would be in gen 2
Basically, even a GameShark can change a Pokemon's type. You just need to find the RAM address for it
What does "ad free final edit" mean? Anyway love the concept, I did something similar in pokemon infinite fusion and normal/ghost definitely dominates gen 1
I didn't change the name when copying the base info over fro the Members version of the video. RIP
Congrats on the baby!
Thanks 🙏
imagine THIS as a regional form! 😮💨
It would be incredible in modern gens with actual Ghost moves
@@RBYPokemonChallenges so true!
Congratulations on becoming a father!!!
Wife is at about 2 months of pregnancy right now, but it's super excited and confusing, and stressful, but I'm excited beyond all else! Thank you for the support!!!
As good as ghost/normal lax is, I think it would be right above tauros and not be completely broken due to the fact that lax could actually eat tauros's attacks pretty well. Its biggest weaknesses were the special side as most lax's were reflect rest. So pokemon like eggy and jynx could threaten it.
I can see that. I think the ability to switch in to Tauros and not have to feel the beam or the slam, and switching in on Exeggutor or Cloyster going boom sounds like a fun thing as well.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges oh yea I completely forgot about boom, that is definitely a huge upside of not having to deal with that
Coming back to this after playing Infinite Fusion with a Blissey/Cofagrigus (physically defensive Gen 5 ghost type) fusion, and I feel I can say that Pokemon can't handle a bulky Normal/Ghost with good recovery moves. That thing sits on legendaries until the Strugle to death or get in the Pokeball.
I'll bet, the typing is overall OP. I can only imagine if it had even better defensive stats
@@RBYPokemonChallenges 189 base HP, 100 base Defense, 125 base Special Defense.
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Snorlax slept so much it died of old age and became a ghost
That's awesome, we can now justify it in the lore!
I found I new source of really good pokemon content :D
Awesome, thank you for watching!
Welp time for me to stop what I was doing for the next hour
And a half
Appreciate that!
Hey man, found your vids recently and I gotta say, very underappreciated channel, love the spins you put on these challenges. That being said I have some criticisms, and Don't take this personally, but you have quite a lot of streches where no dialogue is being said and it becomes boring, also there are some parts that are not really integral to the video that could be cut out. I'm sure you heard this comparison before but you should really take a look at Jrose's videos and pace your videos more like his. Anyways I hope you continue making these videos and growing your channel!
Thanks for the critiques. Definitely have a lot to improve.
Since you do all your challenge runs at 0 DVs, would you ever consider doing a Max DV run to see how much certain Pokemon improve, and how many can suddenly do minimum battles?
Yeah, I did a Max DVs/0DVs comparison of Krabby last year. But I have some plans for Max DVs, just not ready for it yet.
In gen 1, Snorlax was already great as a vanilla normal type. But with ghost type added to Snorlax, it's almost as broken as it's gen 2 counterpart!
If this were competitive, it would break Meta and be banned from OU
@@RBYPokemonChallenges You're right about that, and ghost Snorlax is still overpowered in a regular playthrough anyways due to most Pokemon using normal moves.
Here is an idea give Mewtwo the Arcues treatment doing typing changes depending on the tablet it is holding. In this regard giving mewtwo runs under each typing while adding moves for the typings lacking ie bug, ghost, dragon, poison off the top of my head that are at least equal or close to equal to the power of the move psychic.
a bug-type Mewtwo sounds insane and hilarious
Snorghast
Perfect name!
Interesting challenge! He's an ex Pokemon... you could call him ExLax!
Nah, ExLax is the punishment run I'm doing right now in Gen 2 with only 20 power .moves lol
o.o Good luck! @@RBYPokemonChallenges
Now I desperately want a ghost type snorlax regional variant. Maybe a split munchlax evolution.
That would be amazing! They make so many cool variants that would be fun to backport to Gen 1 for some fun playthroughs too
That sounds really cool maybe a Snorlax/Munchlax that starved to death as the story/reason for it existing.
Idea for a video; can you beat snorelax on minimum battles zero dvs that only knows mirror move? Name him MiraLax
That is hilarious. A Mirror Move based run will have to happen at some point.
Ghostlax in gen 1 sounds like what a sheninja would be as a starter
You can't faint if you're already dead....
Nice Halloween theme I like it
I wanted to do something a little different. Lots of Haunter and Misdreavus videos out around this time
Congrats on the baby!
Thank you! Super excited! The RB-Wife goes to the hospital tomorrow for a checkup and we should be able to detect a heartbeat at this point!
The amount of critical hits was absurd. Like the game itself realized something was wrong and set out to purge it.
Precisely, the game could not stand for this lol
How do you mod the games? I would love to play some of these modded versions.
I'm using the (now defunc)t Gamehook software. But it is possible to do the same thing with GameShark codes.
Ghostlax is best boy!
Best boy for sure.
how did he make the type change in the game?
I used Gamehook to directly change my Pokemon's typing.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Is that an app or something?
Gamehook is a software that is no longer publicly offered, but yeah, it is a PC application.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges oh so it cant be done anymore.
It can legitimately learn surf
But you wouldn't want to....
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Amnesia being a double Calm Mind in Gen 1 makes it a legitimate option. Not to mention making the really physically defensive Rock types trivial.
Well its just snorlax that isnt affected by normal or fighting
But is that a good or bad thing?
When snorlax licks.. does it lick one of onix rocks.. or all of onix…
A question that we must decided on an answer fo4
Congrats on the 0 DV baby, we know it'll still be OP
He/She is going to be S-Tier for sure!
It pains me to see how badly everybody bags on Lt. Surge because he was the hardest gym leader on my first playthrough of Blue when it came out. Surge and Misty gave me some pretty big problems back in the day.
For sure. I mean, I think in Red/Blue he was much harder than Yellow because he had "Smart AI". He got nerfed overall in Yellow
I got 2 words for you. Ghosts are legends and everything.
Facts, but more than 2 words
@@RBYPokemonChallenges no no. You see it's Ghosts are legends and and everything. 2 words lol
@@d.a.d.-ohgosh Sounds legit 😆
Ahhhhh , my ex typing
As in it used to be your typing, or you had an ex who was Ghost/Normal?
How about back porting ice type sandslash
These types of backports are in my future ideas list for sure!
Did amwrap affect a ghost type?
Yeah, it's a glitch I Gen 1 where the move does no damage but still "hits" and stops you from moving. In my first test run of GhostLax mentioned in the video, I actually got KOed by Jessie and James's Ekans where it poisoned me and then kept using Wrap, preventing me from moving for like 10 turns until I dies
You murdered Snorlax for that challenge, you should be ashamed.
But he was better, until that abomination of a Champion fight....
How about a race between a Charizard that's Fire / Dragon and a Gyarados that's Water / Dragon.
The Dance of the (real) Gen 1 Dragons. Sounds legit!
@@RBYPokemonChallenges The way you put that into words sounds even more legit.
This is now in progress!
@@RBYPokemonChallenges This is really awesome.
Is there a video to learn how to use game hook for changes like this? I would pay crazy money to be able to use ghostlax
Anyone, please helppp
I can make a quick video on how Gamehook works and my backend. Perhaps some extra content for the end of the year.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges that would be fantastic. Thank you man!
I'm working on a distributable *base* version of my overlay without frills that I could share out. Wouldn't be as quick and easy as Scott's overlay, but would give a base for others to start from if they so choose.
Ghostlax is good because if Ghostlax walls even a single pokemon, Amnesia in this gen can set up offensively
Fact
35:24 nice
It was very nice. 96.9 includes 69
How op would mega pokemon be in rby?
That is a topic that we will have to investigate someday!
Now how about dual type Ghost/Normal in gen 2? Crazy 😅, was already the best mon in gen 2.
This will be upcoming over on GSC Pokemon Challenges. Gotta do the ExLax run over there first
How about a rock type Snorlax?
That sounds insane, but it could add tons of type disadvantages almost certainly making Snorlax worse - Misty, Erika, Giovanni 3, Lorelei, Lance...
True but a better Brock spilt and you could call him Snorlgloem
@@RBYPokemonChallenges
Imagine the consequences ghost type Snorlax would have had on competitive gen 2 with it getting ghost curse instead of regular curse.
Completely broken with Rest on the set as well.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Actually it would probably be significantly worse in singles since Curse is the main reason Snorlax was the single strongest pokemon in gen2 competitive battles. It would be busted in single player though.
I'm a bit confused... I get the Brock fight is essentially impossible with a normal Snorlax, but I don't understand the cut away without Lick, accidentally having Surf, etc.
Iirc Bide can't hit ghost in Gen 1,and I know his extreme amount of Full Heals is stupid as hell and Struggle might be needed anyway, but what happened?
oml... ok, I understand now, it was for comparison.
Yeah, and Bide can hit anything in Gen 1, so even a ghost like Gastly or Haunter would have to at least consider Vide when choosing attacks.
Anyone play pokemon infinite fusion knows a snorlax/gengar fusion with levitate is broken.
Of only er had levitate in this one.... Damn Gen 1 not having abilities....
Surely Ghost/Normal Tauros would be better?
We must investigate!
Rename Brock to Grock in future runs to ensure his type name is correct lol
If only the names perfectly lined up
@@RBYPokemonChallenges I know 🤣🤣
Who needs aniahlape when you got anihalax lol
Fact
In competitive, i'm pretty sure it would be banned, after all, its already the 2nd best mon in OU.
Tauros would never stand a chance
TL;WW - Insanely OP
Let's see!
Crazy idea, try having a bad pokemon (caterpie) with insane typing and moves (dragon psychic or something crazy) with great moves, against an insane pokemon (Dragonite) with crap typing and moves
Couple be very silly and interesting
so giving it one of the most broken typings ever fixes a mon right? funny that...
But does it?
Normlax is legit
Absolutely. NormLax only really has a wall at Brock.
Maybe increasing the power of Lick to give him a nice ghost move would be good
I need to backport some actual good ghosts moves
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Confuse ray may be a good animation for Shadow Ball
Fun
I thik so too. I's a very interesting experiment.
Repeat with gen 2
Yes
God bless and forgive you
Think it might be too late for forgiveness lol
I think you focus too much on minimum battles. It gets kinda old. Like, just train a bit bro.
To each their own, I suppose. I started this channel specifically about minimum battles, and I only really abandon it when it's obviously not going to work.
Spooooky!!! ….zzzzzz 😴
Scared sleepy 😂
Broken!!!
Truly broken.
Second comment!
Kangaskdan, gotta ask, which baby Pokemon should I plan for my avatar? (check the outro)
@@RBYPokemonChallenges Congratulations man!! So happy for you and your growing family :)
I guess the baby pokemon addition all depends on the baby :D
Baby comes out kicking - tyrogue
Baby comes out looking adorable - Cleffa/Pichu
Baby comes out massive - Munchlax
:D Congrats again!!
First comment!
That is incredible! You clearly have Agility on the moveset
@@RBYPokemonChallenges nah, dragon dance all day long bruh.
That works