Honestly yeah, maybe it was the 70 dollar price tag considering the game is about 7-8 hours for the campaign but I really enjoyed it, excellent gore and a decent story. Really beautiful visually.
Man it's like transforming from a gamey to CGI. Light leakage lowered to minimum. Objects are grounded and cast proper shadows whether it's soft or hard contact shadows dependent on the proximity of objects in a lit room. It just transforms it from "cinematic gamey" to "cinematic CGI". The weirdest thing about this is that you can't obviously tell the difference. It's the one where you feel "something is odd" but can't quite put the finger on what while switching to the pro one it feels "yep things seem right". Only when you flip back n forth stills you see that there is no more immense light leakage, the shadows properly connect with the objects, no weird light through where it should be shadow, the hard contact soft and blurred shadows are properly drawn thus creating the visual depth that we so expect like in the real world thus gives more presence of 3D space. I love it. Not many can feel it or perceive it but I personally love that part. It just gives the image more depth, contrast, clarity. But should you get PS5 pro because of this? no. It's not game changing. You should get it if you enjoy these improvements and image clean ups while providing more stable performance like I do thus I got ps5 pro. If these don't matter to you, ps5 base is perfectly fine as is.
The PS5 Pro is the most disappointing tech this year. You can say what you want about the PS4 Pro, but you could easily spot the difference between base PS4 and Pro enhanced games. It also cost $400, the exact amount of the base PS4 launched at. That’s value. The PS5 Pro is about 60% more than a Slim is if you include adding a disc drive to match it in features. I’m not hating on those that have the disposable income to get one but Sony half assed this one and you deserve more for paying premium. This is lazy.
Please don't. In order to see a difference with a 4K screen, you need to have a 280" display at a 10inch (3m) distance. The ressources to make it run are 4x those of 4k, which are already hard to achieve. And in the end, it's an ecological scandal
@@mightyhats You can still play in 4K 120fps with a good 8K TV and have the option to watch 8K content or game modes. It’ll future proof them even longer.
@@lionceau1410 You can begin to see a difference with 8K at 75” from normal viewing distances but it becomes a much bigger factor at 85”-100” and beyond.
Something that's impossible to see on YT, but is very clear on my 65” OLED, is that on Base PS5 the game (in order to reach 60fps) turns off all Ray Tracing and reduces the overall quality of the ambient occlusion, as well as it´s running at a dynamic resolution between 1180p and 1440p. On PS5 Pro, the game runs at a perfect 60fps, with Ray Tracing and 4K resolution upscaled by PSSR. It really looks beautiful.
On the 4K/60 mode I kept feeling infrequent stutters, almost like traversal stutter. I also get a small stutter if I'm moving while the game autosaves. It seems the video is showing this behavior as well.
Właśnie nagrywam na kanał przejście na PS5 PRO i jest różnica między Zwykłym a Pro głowie widać to podczas walk gdzie na podstawowym potrafiło chrupnąć i ostro leciała rozdzielczość a ty jest płynnie plus nie widzę zmian w rozdzielczości podczas walk oraz w jasnych pomieszczeniach widać sporą różnicę w teksturach 😊
I am tired of people expecting to see differences on a youtube video... i mean wtf people use your brains. Its Quality mode at 60 fps. Thats it. Some times even more stuff added. Thats it. Try to imagine it. If it is enough for you then go for it. If not, stop acting as if there are no differences.
There are differences of course. But which one? Does it fundamentally change the gameplay? Is it a game changer? is it worth paying almost double the money for PRO? Absolutely NOT. But it's not worth arguing with someone. Someone will convince themselves and others that, for example, toilet paper is worth 150$/€
@@majstorringo Seriously can you please find me anywhere, anyone officially ever saying that the PS5 Pro is a "game changer"? Do you expect the Pro to play exclusive games that the PS5 cant? Did Sony ever claim that PS5 Pro is going to change how PS5 games are played? The only thing they LITERALLY said is that with PS5 Pro you can get PS5's quality mode running at 60 fps with 4k like resolution through PSSR. All the rest are things that naive people are claiming because for some reason they expected a PS5 Pro to be a PS6 or something. Do you value high resolutions and high framerates with occasional better gfx settings? Then PS5 Pro might interest you. Do you not care about these things? Then just dont buy it. What is worth for you is not the same as what is worth for others. Some people decide that smoking is worth it for them (somehow...) and they spend hundreds of dollars every year to support their habit and yet some of these people will come here and laugh out loud at the price of PS5 Pro... You can actually change "smoking" with a million other things that offer just as great an example. Nobody said you are going to enter a new generation with PS5 Pro... why is it so hard for people to accept simple stuff is beyond me...
@@elwingy I speak for myself first. The problem is the price and what PRO brings. Twice as expensive. You had a pS4 pro that cost the same as the regular model. And it brought an even higher resolution and some graphic improvements, as well as 60 fps. Of course, one can change the Mercedes Maybach every year. But that's not the point. The point is that realistically Sony is selling you fog for double the price. As I said, there are improvements. Which ones? Even on the regular model you have 60 fps on almost all games. Yes, higher resolution. From 2k to 1800p, or 1800p to 4k, which is not native, of course, but upscaling with pssr. On exclusives, this difference is even smaller. You'll need a 3 or 4x zoom to see the difference. My friend, I have ps5, oled tv C4. Do you think I can't buy something that costs 800 euros? There is something called a principle. If you can understand that?
@@majstorringo i never said you "cant buy it". I am not 12 years old. I know that for you its a matter of principle and good for you. Is my principle of saying it is worth (for me) buying it any less than yours? The price is not dictated just by Sony but the overall market. This isnt 2017 (or whenever PS4 was released). Things have changed A LOT. Its not like everything else costs what it used to cost and just Sony doubled the price for the PS5 Pro just because. Its because the manufactirng of said components inside the Pro is damn expensive. Digital Founrdy and so many other tech sites have said it numerous times. Considering the times we live in and the costs involved the PS5 Pro as a package isnt a bad deal. Now, of course everything is relative. For someone who own a PS5 and just doesnt care much about resolutions and framerate and hell doesnt even own a VRR display, there is very little reason to care about the Pro. Which is totally fine. On the other hand, a hardcore gamer, who cares about pixels and shit and for whatever reason finds value in stuff like these because he likes tech, that doesnt make him an idiot or his opinion worth any less. Speaking for me, yes, I am annoyed that a lot of my PS5 games have huge issues with FSR upscaling, yes I am annoyed that Rebirth looks like total poo in performance mode and yes I am annoyed that I cant have raytracing in performance modes. IS it a life altering event? No. Do I play a whole new different game? No. Does my game play better? Well yes, it does. And I value it. Again, Sony was very clear about this: You get Quality mode at 60 fps and extra fidelity/effects. You value it? Go for it. You dont? Then dont. We dont have to act like children each one trying to validate his choice more than the other.
@@majstorringo also excuse me for correcting you about the PS4 Pro but it never brought 60 fps... I dont remember playing Horizon at 60 fps on the PS4 Pro. Or any other game even. If it ever had exclusive 60 fps modes it was just for a handful of games which was the exception.
I don't see any difference in person, actually no i think the 4k60 fps on pro vs base is downgraded due to reduction in resolution to support raytracing! Which emphasizes the fact that image quality is more important than any useless rt effects!
There is no difference🤷 This whole TH-cam compression debate is a myth😂 you'd see the difference on TH-cam if it was a pc vs console comparison so why wouldn't you see a difference between ps5 and ps5 pro on a TH-cam video if there were noticeable differences? Come on man! Think about it. Don't believe the hype and buy into the BS. Ps5 pro is being exposed. Ever since Alan wake 2 and Jedi survivor were shown to be running worse than expected on the ps5 pro and how pssr is not working as well with some games as expected those 2 games have significantly dropped in price. Alan wake 2 deluxe edition is under £40 in the UK and Jedi survivor is £14. Coincidence?
You can’t capture the PRO!!! It’s like giving you a cake with no icing, it’s not finished yet…. Off screen comparisons, show both systems or leave it alone. Misleading the masses! The TV/Monitor with the correct spec is MANDATORY! The magic of the PRO happens on the end user experience… image quality and performance. You truly have to see it irl… if they put displays in the wild for the holidays many of your favorite creators credibility will be in the shitter…
@@redfirefox3568 they downgraded the games graphics after patch 1.06 they just sold yall the original game when it came out before the graphics downgraded i know this because i bought the game at launch
"I am tired of people expecting to see differences on a youtube video... i mean wtf people use your brains. Its Quality mode at 60 fps. Thats it. Some times even more stuff added. Thats it. Try to imagine it. If it is enough for you then go for it. If not, stop acting as if there are no differences."-@elwingy That's a myth😂 you'd see the difference on TH-cam if it was a pc vs console comparison so why wouldn't you see a difference between ps5 and ps5 pro on a TH-cam video if there were noticeable differences? Come on man! Think about it. Don't believe the hype and buy into the BS. Ps5 pro is being exposed. Ever since Alan wake 2 and Jedi survivor were shown to be running worse than expected on the ps5 pro and how pssr is not working as well with some games as expected those 2 games have significantly dropped in price. Alan wake 2 deluxe edition is under £40 in the UK and Jedi survivor is £14. Coincidence?
Ps5 pro has better ray tracing and looks sharper on water clouds wich I love the most graphics count allot for me it'd always good to upgrade mi opinion
@@lechistanskiswit320ps5 pro literally lost to RTX 3070 when digital founded did the test😂 even with running retracing lower than the lowest setting on PC.
The Professional version for Professional players looks like it has twenty times improved graphical definition, and if you disagree you're just really poor and have no money to be a professional player.
Curious here, are you expecting to see a night and difference in graphics? For me, this game gave me those fidelity settings on the base, but added the 60fps on top of it. There are some differences on the pro for graphics, is it night and day.. Not to me it's not..
Definitely worth 700$... Not! Looks exactly the same and at since both versions run at an almost locked 60fps there's also little to no difference in performance. This marks video number 14 out of 14 of ps5 pro visual/performance tests that fail to impress.
Just so everyone knows the game got graphically downgraded after patch 1.06 I still go the game on patch 1.06 and its got full ray tracing on graphics mode yes its 30fps but you wont even notice looks like they just got the 60fps with the original graphics yall are blind sheep if you think anything here is better
This game is "The Order 1886" of this gen. Excellent game that got shit on by reviewers.
Honestly yeah, maybe it was the 70 dollar price tag considering the game is about 7-8 hours for the campaign but I really enjoyed it, excellent gore and a decent story. Really beautiful visually.
👍🏾👍🏾
Just like days gone another gem of a game destroyed by reviewers.
True
Its actually a shame, and because of literally less than 100 games are kept in the dark and many ppl don't hear of the games
Man it's like transforming from a gamey to CGI. Light leakage lowered to minimum. Objects are grounded and cast proper shadows whether it's soft or hard contact shadows dependent on the proximity of objects in a lit room.
It just transforms it from "cinematic gamey" to "cinematic CGI".
The weirdest thing about this is that you can't obviously tell the difference. It's the one where you feel "something is odd" but can't quite put the finger on what while switching to the pro one it feels "yep things seem right".
Only when you flip back n forth stills you see that there is no more immense light leakage, the shadows properly connect with the objects, no weird light through where it should be shadow, the hard contact soft and blurred shadows are properly drawn thus creating the visual depth that we so expect like in the real world thus gives more presence of 3D space.
I love it. Not many can feel it or perceive it but I personally love that part. It just gives the image more depth, contrast, clarity.
But should you get PS5 pro because of this? no. It's not game changing. You should get it if you enjoy these improvements and image clean ups while providing more stable performance like I do thus I got ps5 pro. If these don't matter to you, ps5 base is perfectly fine as is.
I'm glad I held off playing this till i got the pro. Looks and plays amazing.
looks and plays the same
@@SD-vp5vo Its sharper with rt at 60fps. Its was dynamic 4k averaging around 1440p before with zero rt.
@@redfirefox3568 and now it's what? 1080p with questionable upscaling?
@@SD-vp5vo PSSR works so good here. I can't notice a difference between native 4k maybe a hair sharper. I mean why not?
The PS5 Pro is the most disappointing tech this year. You can say what you want about the PS4 Pro, but you could easily spot the difference between base PS4 and Pro enhanced games. It also cost $400, the exact amount of the base PS4 launched at. That’s value. The PS5 Pro is about 60% more than a Slim is if you include adding a disc drive to match it in features. I’m not hating on those that have the disposable income to get one but Sony half assed this one and you deserve more for paying premium. This is lazy.
Looks fine to me on base PS5, I don't own an 8K tv anyway. But that might change on Black Friday.
Please don't.
In order to see a difference with a 4K screen, you need to have a 280" display at a 10inch (3m) distance.
The ressources to make it run are 4x those of 4k, which are already hard to achieve.
And in the end, it's an ecological scandal
Word of advice: Find 4k 120 fps tv for gaming it will carry you for 10 years from now
@@mightyhats You can still play in 4K 120fps with a good 8K TV and have the option to watch 8K content or game modes. It’ll future proof them even longer.
@@lionceau1410 You can begin to see a difference with 8K at 75” from normal viewing distances but it becomes a much bigger factor at 85”-100” and beyond.
@XBOXisWeakAF stalker 2 is 3 month timed exclusive 😂 why play it on the garbage series x when you can play it on the superior ps5 pro 👌
Something that's impossible to see on YT, but is very clear on my 65” OLED, is that on Base PS5 the game (in order to reach 60fps) turns off all Ray Tracing and reduces the overall quality of the ambient occlusion, as well as it´s running at a dynamic resolution between 1180p and 1440p. On PS5 Pro, the game runs at a perfect 60fps, with Ray Tracing and 4K resolution upscaled by PSSR. It really looks beautiful.
Actually huge difference - 4k60 mode on Ps5Pro right now got full Ray Tracing.
Its 1080p upscaled to 4k before was dynamic 4k resolution was smuch better before
@@k1cs1m3a8 Dude regardless if it's upscaled... it looks amazing.
@ the previous version had more stable image and higher resolution. So its not.
@@k1cs1m3a8 Do you have a ps5 pro?
@ i do.
On the 4K/60 mode I kept feeling infrequent stutters, almost like traversal stutter. I also get a small stutter if I'm moving while the game autosaves. It seems the video is showing this behavior as well.
That was always there, I finished the game on release and always had those stutters
Good game with fantastic visuals on both platforms shame it got so much hate
This game is actually good. I would have liked a sequel. As far as difference here, it looks the same on both.
You are Brain-dead, on pro it runs at 60 fps with ray tracing and only 25-30 on the base
I belive their next AAA game they been working out will be somewhat similar to this "maybe"
@Ki77a_WhSpRz That could be cool.
Właśnie nagrywam na kanał przejście na PS5 PRO i jest różnica między Zwykłym a Pro głowie widać to podczas walk gdzie na podstawowym potrafiło chrupnąć i ostro leciała rozdzielczość a ty jest płynnie plus nie widzę zmian w rozdzielczości podczas walk oraz w jasnych pomieszczeniach widać sporą różnicę w teksturach 😊
I am tired of people expecting to see differences on a youtube video... i mean wtf people use your brains. Its Quality mode at 60 fps. Thats it. Some times even more stuff added. Thats it. Try to imagine it. If it is enough for you then go for it. If not, stop acting as if there are no differences.
There are differences of course. But which one? Does it fundamentally change the gameplay? Is it a game changer? is it worth paying almost double the money for PRO? Absolutely NOT. But it's not worth arguing with someone. Someone will convince themselves and others that, for example, toilet paper is worth 150$/€
@@majstorringo Seriously can you please find me anywhere, anyone officially ever saying that the PS5 Pro is a "game changer"? Do you expect the Pro to play exclusive games that the PS5 cant? Did Sony ever claim that PS5 Pro is going to change how PS5 games are played? The only thing they LITERALLY said is that with PS5 Pro you can get PS5's quality mode running at 60 fps with 4k like resolution through PSSR. All the rest are things that naive people are claiming because for some reason they expected a PS5 Pro to be a PS6 or something. Do you value high resolutions and high framerates with occasional better gfx settings? Then PS5 Pro might interest you. Do you not care about these things? Then just dont buy it. What is worth for you is not the same as what is worth for others. Some people decide that smoking is worth it for them (somehow...) and they spend hundreds of dollars every year to support their habit and yet some of these people will come here and laugh out loud at the price of PS5 Pro... You can actually change "smoking" with a million other things that offer just as great an example. Nobody said you are going to enter a new generation with PS5 Pro... why is it so hard for people to accept simple stuff is beyond me...
@@elwingy I speak for myself first. The problem is the price and what PRO brings. Twice as expensive. You had a pS4 pro that cost the same as the regular model. And it brought an even higher resolution and some graphic improvements, as well as 60 fps. Of course, one can change the Mercedes Maybach every year. But that's not the point. The point is that realistically Sony is selling you fog for double the price. As I said, there are improvements. Which ones? Even on the regular model you have 60 fps on almost all games. Yes, higher resolution. From 2k to 1800p, or 1800p to 4k, which is not native, of course, but upscaling with pssr. On exclusives, this difference is even smaller. You'll need a 3 or 4x zoom to see the difference. My friend, I have ps5, oled tv C4. Do you think I can't buy something that costs 800 euros? There is something called a principle. If you can understand that?
@@majstorringo i never said you "cant buy it". I am not 12 years old. I know that for you its a matter of principle and good for you. Is my principle of saying it is worth (for me) buying it any less than yours? The price is not dictated just by Sony but the overall market. This isnt 2017 (or whenever PS4 was released). Things have changed A LOT. Its not like everything else costs what it used to cost and just Sony doubled the price for the PS5 Pro just because. Its because the manufactirng of said components inside the Pro is damn expensive. Digital Founrdy and so many other tech sites have said it numerous times. Considering the times we live in and the costs involved the PS5 Pro as a package isnt a bad deal. Now, of course everything is relative. For someone who own a PS5 and just doesnt care much about resolutions and framerate and hell doesnt even own a VRR display, there is very little reason to care about the Pro. Which is totally fine. On the other hand, a hardcore gamer, who cares about pixels and shit and for whatever reason finds value in stuff like these because he likes tech, that doesnt make him an idiot or his opinion worth any less. Speaking for me, yes, I am annoyed that a lot of my PS5 games have huge issues with FSR upscaling, yes I am annoyed that Rebirth looks like total poo in performance mode and yes I am annoyed that I cant have raytracing in performance modes. IS it a life altering event? No. Do I play a whole new different game? No. Does my game play better? Well yes, it does. And I value it. Again, Sony was very clear about this: You get Quality mode at 60 fps and extra fidelity/effects. You value it? Go for it. You dont? Then dont. We dont have to act like children each one trying to validate his choice more than the other.
@@majstorringo also excuse me for correcting you about the PS4 Pro but it never brought 60 fps... I dont remember playing Horizon at 60 fps on the PS4 Pro. Or any other game even. If it ever had exclusive 60 fps modes it was just for a handful of games which was the exception.
No fps counter? 😑
Minute 21:05 ???
@amanwithnoname6998 You need to go all the way to 21 mins in to see it? Silly.
@@DrJones20 yeah...whats the matter??
@@amanwithnoname6998 Show the fps counter all the time, the fps is the most important.
@DrJones20 wait for a video that shows you that...
Yo no vi nada de diferencias
Any improvement in person? Become it looks completely the same here
Ya big difference I've been playing 40fps 4k and it's got soooo much more detail and ray tracing is crazy
I don't see any difference in person, actually no i think the 4k60 fps on pro vs base is downgraded due to reduction in resolution to support raytracing!
Which emphasizes the fact that image quality is more important than any useless rt effects!
@@mohamad-abdo must be your tv or something because mine added waaaay more detail on the 40fps mode
@@biasannihilator6146 I have a 75 inch oled tv. So no
There is no difference🤷
This whole TH-cam compression debate is a myth😂 you'd see the difference on TH-cam if it was a pc vs console comparison so why wouldn't you see a difference between ps5 and ps5 pro on a TH-cam video if there were noticeable differences? Come on man! Think about it. Don't believe the hype and buy into the BS. Ps5 pro is being exposed. Ever since Alan wake 2 and Jedi survivor were shown to be running worse than expected on the ps5 pro and how pssr is not working as well with some games as expected those 2 games have significantly dropped in price. Alan wake 2 deluxe edition is under £40 in the UK and Jedi survivor is £14. Coincidence?
Good job, thank u.
No frame counter.
Me llego a doler la vista de los gráficos en 8k a 120 fps . Y pensar que algunos hueetas se las creen
このゲームは日本では販売されませんでした。😢
It already looks good on 30fps 4k mode on the OG playstation 5 that's how I play all my games 30fps 4k
But it's doing what you said, but with 60fps instead of 30fps..
You can’t capture the PRO!!! It’s like giving you a cake with no icing, it’s not finished yet…. Off screen comparisons, show both systems or leave it alone. Misleading the masses! The TV/Monitor with the correct spec is MANDATORY! The magic of the PRO happens on the end user experience… image quality and performance. You truly have to see it irl… if they put displays in the wild for the holidays many of your favorite creators credibility will be in the shitter…
Exactly the same graphics. Ps5 pro is a rip off.
Actually its sharper than before in performance mode with rt at 60fps on a big display
@@redfirefox3568 they downgraded the games graphics after patch 1.06 they just sold yall the original game when it came out before the graphics downgraded i know this because i bought the game at launch
"I am tired of people expecting to see differences on a youtube video... i mean wtf people use your brains. Its Quality mode at 60 fps. Thats it. Some times even more stuff added. Thats it. Try to imagine it. If it is enough for you then go for it. If not, stop acting as if there are no differences."-@elwingy
That's a myth😂 you'd see the difference on TH-cam if it was a pc vs console comparison so why wouldn't you see a difference between ps5 and ps5 pro on a TH-cam video if there were noticeable differences? Come on man! Think about it. Don't believe the hype and buy into the BS. Ps5 pro is being exposed. Ever since Alan wake 2 and Jedi survivor were shown to be running worse than expected on the ps5 pro and how pssr is not working as well with some games as expected those 2 games have significantly dropped in price. Alan wake 2 deluxe edition is under £40 in the UK and Jedi survivor is £14. Coincidence?
Ps5 pro has better ray tracing and looks sharper on water clouds wich I love the most graphics count allot for me it'd always good to upgrade mi opinion
Ps5 pro more cleaner
Same shit 700 euro for this is shit
Same.
Same
Just buy the base PS5. Want high end? Buy a pc with 3070 or something. Way cheaper than the Pro
3070 is nowhere near PRO performance - try to run Callisto in 4k60+RT or 8k+RT - good luck.
@@lechistanskiswit320💯
Good luck trying to run this at 4k with rt on a 3070 that only has 8gb of vram.
You have ZERO idea what you are talking about
We don't want a PeeSee
@@lechistanskiswit320ps5 pro literally lost to RTX 3070 when digital founded did the test😂 even with running retracing lower than the lowest setting on PC.
Unworthy difference
Ни какой раздницы не покупайте это говно ps5 pro
The Professional version for Professional players looks like it has twenty times improved graphical definition, and if you disagree you're just really poor and have no money to be a professional player.
Same graphic 😂😂😂😂
You'd be saying the same thing when compared to a rtx 4090 🤡
Curious here, are you expecting to see a night and difference in graphics? For me, this game gave me those fidelity settings on the base, but added the 60fps on top of it. There are some differences on the pro for graphics, is it night and day.. Not to me it's not..
Definitely worth 700$... Not! Looks exactly the same and at since both versions run at an almost locked 60fps there's also little to no difference in performance. This marks video number 14 out of 14 of ps5 pro visual/performance tests that fail to impress.
Oh there are games that defo make it worth
Cope bot 🙄
@@olsen3127 no
What the matter you jealous and broke 😂😂😂🖕🤡
8k a 30frames y RT y despues dicen los Xboxers que no hay diferencia con Series x🤣el chiste se cuenta solo
Just so everyone knows the game got graphically downgraded after patch 1.06 I still go the game on patch 1.06 and its got full ray tracing on graphics mode yes its 30fps but you wont even notice looks like they just got the 60fps with the original graphics yall are blind sheep if you think anything here is better