David E. Sanger - “New Cold Wars” with Russia & China | The Daily Show
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- White House and National Security Correspondent David E. Sanger joins Jon Stewart to discuss his latest book “New Cold Wars.” Sanger details how America’s “arrogance” in the decades after the Cold War led to underestimating Russia’s imperialistic plans, including its invasion of Ukraine, and how a similar pattern is unfolding with China. They also discuss how America’s foreign policy track record might impact its role in simultaneous “new cold wars” with Russia and China. #DailyShow #JonStewart #ColdWar
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Jon Stewart is one of the lone, honest voices in US media.
Both Jon Stewart and Tucker Carlson
us mainstream media
in most alternative media these (his) views have already landed a long time ago
but props to him for advocating these positions on the us role in geopolitics
@@darren93575Carlson? The guy who did the softball interview with Putin and was marvelled by Russian shopping carts having features we had in the 70's in Western Europe and they adopted from here? You funny guy!
@@darren93575 That's pretty funny. Tucker, honest 😆🤣🤣
Tucker is not honest about anything.
I admire how fair John is! He says it as he sees it. He's loved in Egypt so much
Your comment means alot here. 😊
fair? he's blaming us for not taking palestinian refugees.
so basically he wants us to empty Gaza and deliver it on a silver plate to israel
then we'll have to deal with the terrorists of hamas operating from sinai
don't be naive please, watch his other videos before you declare your love
unless of course you're ok with the terrorism flourishing again in sinai after it took us 10 years and the lives of more than 3000 of our soldiers to cleans it
He is loved all over the world! He is a citizen of the world!
... and he sees it through a remarkably undistorted lens, analyses it with a sharp mind, and places it in context by informing himself.
And New Zealand.
When Apple plus cancelled John, I cancelled them.
They hurtin now
I'm over here screaming. Jon is saying the stuff most folks don't say outloud.
Most media and politicians.
6:17 Finally someone said it. Jon Steward said it. This is what I've been saying for YEARS. People who are determined, will likely ignore sanctions and do whatever they want anyway, but all I hear in response is "no that'll never happen." "why?" "it just wont, you have to believe me!" like...
I'm no Trump fan but he's the only mainstream US politician I've ever heard say "And you think we're any better" when referring to things Russia, China and other regimes are doing
@@Xxwill55xXUm. There are countless people who said, the war in Vietnam was a waste. The war in the Persian golf was a waste. It was American imperialism. Trump ain't the only one saying it. Most Americans are tired of it.
I’m absolutely astonished. Jon Steward is a beacon of light in today’s media landscape.
What are ya? New?
😮😅@@ggjohnson5754
Glad you have gotten to experience Jon. Watch some of his older episodes of the Daily Show.
It’s sad that a comic is considered media and media resembles comedy.
He's fun, he's bright, every time he make left wing propagande it's fun :)
more than ever we need Jon back on the Daily Show full-time!
Or in the #OvalOffice
Yes, we needed a voice of reasoning.
He more or less is, he is producing the rest of the week. Creating additional voices to join his.
o yes please .
@@sharper68 He may be the producer, but the other hosts can't hold a candle to his knowledge and understanding about domestic and foreign politics.
I'm an Iraq War Intel Vet and I must say that anyone that thinks the cold war ever ended is naïve. It may have changed, and there were hiccups for our opponents, sure, but *END?* never.
Did you find those WMDs? 😂
@@Anthony-rz5kw LOL, actually, we repeatedly told the GOP that there were none, we even knew who'd bought them all. they didn't care, b/c cheney had already made deals with Oil and War Corporations for the profits!
we were... ESPECIALLY upset... that Cheney, Powell, and Bush knowingly lied to NATO, especially...
The Cold War did end. This new cold war we're in now is very different from the last one and it's being fought for different reasons. I also do not think it was inevitable. If America had not squandered its moral legitimacy (and military power) after 9/11, we'd be in a much stronger position to deter Russia and China, and they likely wouldn't have started all this trouble in the first place.
@@Anthony-rz5kw LOL, actually, we knew that there were none; and exactly where all the one's Saddam previously had went (most were destroyed or sold, and we knew to who). We clearly, concisely, and repeatedly made that known to the powers that be, but Cheney already had billion-dollar deals in the works with Oil and War Corporations... we were... VERY upset that we were betrayed (at least those of us that were military, the civilians were 50/50 appalled or involved)
the GOP, primarily Cheney, his sidekick Bush, and their lapdog Powell actively hid our findings and lied to Congress and NATO; deliberately presenting our findings from YEARS prior, before Saddam got rid of it all. But none of that was illegal, and we only collect and analyze the intel, we have no say over how it's used by the politicians, we can't make them do the right thing.
Not to say Saddam wasn't a monster that needed to go, but that whole WMD thing was a flat-out lie, and it painted us (the intel community) in a bad light on the world stage.
And throughout the war, Putin's Russia was funneling intel, money and weapons to the terrorists (albeit mostly in Afghanistan). B/c they'd failed to conquer the area, and saw OIF/OEF as a proxy war between the US and Russia... b/c the cold war never ended...
It never ended because the US wasn't willing to truly join hands with Russia and end NATO. They won the cold war and weren't ready give up on the spoils, even if it meant reigniting the cold war.
It’s astounding to me that it’s still astounding to many Americans that our enemies are simply able to point to all the things we’ve done and say “see what hypocrites they are? Universal values, human rights and democracy are a sham!” And it’s a persuasive argument, even to people in those countries who are pro-freedom. We need to wake up and realize we’re not seen as a shining beacon of blah blah for the world, but self-deceiving hypocrites who say one thing but keep doing another.
So we shouldn't help Ukraine, who we talked into giving up their nukes and bombers, with a promise(though not a legally binding treaty),to help them if they are attacked, by Russia,'cos" we did bad things."....How about if Poland Finland Denmark Sweden Norway Romania & the Baltic states & Ukraine develop their own nukes for self protection.Would the world be a much safer place if all those places had their own nukes? No it wouldn't would it.
@@justinking8927US literally couped Ukraine to militarise it to fight Russia. Imagine if Russia replaced the Mexican gov with their own and armed it, do you think the US wouldnt invade?
@@justinking8927 Imagine...just put yourself in the shoes of another country (or one of the ones you mentioned) and then read your comment.... Does it still hold weight?
But America is the greatest country on Earth. The politicians say that all the time. /s
Hey!! if you dont like it here please leave! Go to where you think life will be better for you!!. Stop sulking! Go to a free country! You would be doing us all a favor!
Wow really! are we that bad??! I think it's time you got a passport and go to other countries. USA is the best hence every benchmark is measured against us. No other nation on Earth rewards hard work and the right to be left the F*ck alone. Dont forget that EU has been ripping us off for a long time. Australia! I wont even start about the level of BS happening there.
Even the extended version is so short. Jon wastes no time and there is so much discussed and yet so much more that we could benefit from.
Using comedic self-deprecation kinda undermines the message that US has no moral high ground and ultimately all the grand-standing is entirely self-serving. You could tell the guest was uneasy about agreeing with him, guess he still has to go back and work with all those ghouls in Washington who perpetrate the wars.
@@EugeneTolmachevguest def had to tow the line about the US and our interests. Jon does not. I respect that.
Colbert on the other hand. Total yes man now that he’s on late night
I’m very happy the extended version was released. On TV it looked like Jon didn’t let him speak
But religious fundamentalism is the other horrific hypocrisy.
Agreed. Jon seems to have a very narrow understanding of world history. Great grasp of America's but tends to over estimate us in a form of American egocentrism itself, while underplaying and infantilizing the role of others if not just not knowing about them 🤦♂️
Deep respect for you Jon but please learn about the wrongs done by other countries too... the faults of our past don't justify the brutality of others, esp in the present. Just saying and just my opinion. I wish we could all do better as a planet tho, hopefully we can all agree there 😔🙏
This show is on tv? How does that work??
@@7kevohow it’s worked for the last 30 years the daily show has been on television lol
@@helios7212I'm glad I'm not the only one.
That one line - "well, at least we have values" - sums up a lot of conventional wisdom. They don't understand how breaking your values can be more damaging than not having them to begin with. Mostly because no one at that level of government believes in values, those are just tools to be exploited. Jon's the first to call that out in a long time.
And on top of that, they really dehumanize countries like Russia and China insinuating that they DON'T have morals. Every human being has morals... some moreso than others for sure but it would be so naïve to think that Putin only does what he does due to ego, and that Russia has no values.
No one lives up to their values 100% of the time. An adult doesn't hold someone to some unrealistic perfection, especially when there are far objectively worse people out there.
It's so funny that there are people who think US foreign policy is about values
John's been knocking it out of the park with choices for guests.
That was a great interview. Jon was on point the whole time and the guest was also very interesting. Their back and forth was amazing!
Um, yeah, "interesting", people are dying in Ukraine... Sorry for the rant, this isn't interesting, this is absolutely vital. I don't think Europe is the centre of the world, we're basically just a glorified Asian peninsula and we should solve our own problems. But Ukraine is a linchpin. Ukraine falls, Putin goes after a small bit of Europe, European economy falls, that in turn creates problems for world economy, China goes after Taiwan, world microchip trade collapses... and microchips basically keep the world going. We need to avoid that scenario.
@@martavdz4972 Interestingly, the West created the backdrops for the unfolding crises again and again. The establishment of Israel post WW2 (a product of the Post WW1 geopolitical landscape which itself sown by colonization by Western powers) set the stage for the violent chaos in the Middle East and the genocidal dictatorships and ethno-cultural conflicts in Africa and Southeast Asia. From the smoke, and rubble and ashes and fragmented regions which created a thirst for strong, declarative voices arose the likes of Duarte, Xi Jinping, Erdogan, and Putin. Dare I say, the U.S. is falling for the same with the rise of a certain bronzered, braggadocios, blustering, bulbous buffoon.
@@martavdz4972 If Ukraine falls, I cannot see Putin going after a NATO country next. There is a big difference between invading a former member of the soviet union (that they were already in a conflict with) and invading a NATO country. He would lose. I am not even convinced they could hold Ukraine in the long term. Europe has already had to absorb the cost of cutting themselves off from Russia oil and gas. The worst of the economic damage is done. Ukraine falling will not change things significantly, but would be terrible for the Ukrainian people and the general political climate of Europe. Eventually things will normalize and trade will resume with Russia, bringing down prices.
If China takes Taiwan, without the semiconductor fabs being destroyed, we will just end up buying all our chips from a Chinese controlled Taiwan. If it does get destroyed.. well there is a reason why US is helping TSMC to build a state of the art fab in Arizona.
I might be being optimistic, or just ignorant. There are so many doomsday headlines going around though.
@@Veodin Unless Trump wins and lets Putin just steamroll as far as he wants to. I think the rest of NATO would prevail...but what if Trump stops being anti-China and leans into isolationism?
@@Veodin I also don't think Putin would go after a NATO country. But I still think Ukraine is worth fighting for because they deserve better than to have to live under Putin's tyranny. People everywhere ought to have the right to make a better society for themselves, and it's people like Putin, Xi Jinping, Trump, Netanyahu, who are standing in the way.
This is why I like and respect Jon, his the only American who is honest about everything, this is what true journalism and free speech should be.
Try watching independent media
Nah is more about laughing 😅
@@annettemacdonald9192 there's a difference between posturing nihilism and actually being truly independent
Getting in ahead of all the big words and opinions that will likely get sent your way (nearly), I disagree. The population of the United States is large enough there's sure to be at least one more. He's just easy to spot because of the whole TV/TH-cam thing.
it will never cease to amaze me, that JS has been one of the voices of reason, honest debate, playful banter, yet asks hard hitting questions with his guests for over 2 decades.
the fact that a comedian does a better job as a journalist than actual journalists will never cease to amaze me
I argue JS is not a comedian. He just wields the weapon of ridicule with great talent, but the subjects which he approaches and the ways he tackles them are damn'd serious.
John, there's one thing I disagree with you about. China's development of the the Belt and Road is not for cobalt and lithium in Africa, but for finding markets for China's excess infrastructure capacity, or to be precise, obtaining resources is only the secondary goal of this plan. In 2008, the subprime mortgage crisis that erupted in the United States swept the world, causing an economic crisis worldwide. China was forced to propose a 4 trillion yuan infrastructure construction plan and build a large amount of infrastructure domestically. Five years later, China has built too many houses, highways and bridges. In order to enable these workers to continue to work, they put forward the the Belt and Road plan to build infrastructure around the world. At the same time, they provide US dollar loans to countries that are poor but want to obtain infrastructure. This also solves the problem that a large amount of US dollars accumulated in China's trade surplus cannot be invested.
The way that the guest describes the geopolitics with respect to Russia and China relations with the US and the west is like the pre war environment before WWI. If one reads the Guns Of August, the miscalculations as detailed in the book, made by the Great Powers back then are echoed by the United States and the West with respect to Russia and China today.
History repeating itself again 😢
@@ggjohnson5754one of my favorite quotes is: "History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes." I'm reminded too often how true this is.
Yes. It's frightening. 😢
The relationship between China and Russia definitely has a bit of that Germany Austro-Hungarian feel. The latter weaker and more openly revanchist and the former less openly militant but still intent on contesting the liberal democratic order (led by Britain at the time).
I love how Jon turns the tables back onto us. It’s so reminiscent of how I was taught to think in a parochial catholic school. We watch our own side of the street and be sure to clean it up. And then we look at or to our neighbors. It’s no wonder we want him in a position of leadership. Excellent interview.
I spent most of my twenties emptying russian shipping containers full of chinese construction materials. The old timers protested the loss of jobs. The people in charge of the work program said think of it as contributing to the new world economy. I wonder what kind of life I would of had if I qualified for a fasfa school loan. I might have student debt but I would not have such awful back problems. Don't get me started on that healthcare... All I wanted to do was build cool stuff, important stuff, incredible things even. But no everyone wants to fight for who's name get's to go on the history books or something. I guess believing the world was going to cooperate and prosper was motivating through those years until the weight of the economic troubles just threw my back out. Aren't we all just a result of the age we are living in.
I labored 30yrs making sure chinese containers reached their destination throughout USA. I wish I would have known there was student loan forgiveness in US Future.
Keep speaking that truth, Jon ❤
Interesting to see the extended version of interviews like this, thanks
Yes, this was a great interview 👏👏 Just wish you understood the history and wrongdoings of other nations as well as you understood ours, Jon.... Esp when it comes to the likes of Iran which has been victim of British/Russian imperialism long before we were ever involved 🙄 America isnt the root of all evil on the planet you know, esp the left, even tho that's the trendy take online these days. Just saying.
Anyone who talks about bush and iraq war and does not mention project fir New American Century. Clinton rejected their request (letter 1998 - see on line) and bush agreed. Half the letter signers were in Bush admin.
Where is John Mearsheimer? We need him on the Daily Show.
Stewart, "Better deals" at what price is the question. Who has suffered for America's greed. That's a rhetorical question.
Bravo Jon, well said. Most of us Iranians have been saying these for years, but we have been challenged. I’m glad someone else is finally calling it as it is.
I have had more respect for iran than for my own US for decades. We should be so fortunate as to have Tariq Aziz on our side. Rational and honest.
Uhm respect as in for the current extremist regime that oppresses its own people and is widely hated by them? As well as what they are doing to women's rights protestors and general human rights?
Deep respect for the Iranian people. Not the current regime that staged their own extremist rightwing religious coup and seized control in 1979, and is terrorizing them. The coups before hand staged by the British and us or the Russians before that does not justify their brutality or their actions, and almost all actual Iranians I know who had to flee them agree. Look at what they did to the likes of Salman Rushdie not even within their own borders ffs 🙄 Just saying
@helios7212 Iran isn't conquering and occupying others people's land, and drone striking weddings in impoverished parts of the world and killing 7 year olds.
You think the US isn't oppressing large parts of the world, supporting Saudi Arabia in its attacks in Yemen for years, and now supporting what will likely be labeled as a genocide?
Remember that the US was one of the last countries that stopped supporting apartheid South Africa, and it's proxy, Israel, continued to arm South Africa when pretty much all agreed that apartheid South Africa need to let black people have rights.
Sure Iran oppresses it's population, but the US oppresses large chunks of the world. Pick your poison. And remember the US supported Iraq in killing Iran, so that culture was born from a powerful foreign power trying to oppress it. So the US gave birth to the oppressive rule that is current Iran.
@@freemanz4051ignorance.
@@helios7212 Note since you seem intersted: before iranian monarchy democracy+relation W Israel, then CIA placed Sha monarchy, the Iatulla's did Islamic coup in 70's.
Please forgive my mispelling, sent quick to make sure I wouldn't forget.
I'm close to Jon's age - to thing we have to continue this for the next 20 - 30 years is just soul crushing.
Sadly. It's what being the top power of the world means to have....... consequences of power
Continue what?
Contrary to Jon’s implications, the US is not responsible for all these global conflicts. And alliances that keep autocratic powers like Russia in check are vital. I know it’s “cool” right now to just hate America, but you don’t want to see the alternate timeline on this.
@@artlesscalamity348 I'm afraid you're wrong. Throughout history the US, policies have directly contributed to the distabilisaion of some continues that had democracies of their own only to be exploited for oil and.... Well you know eh rest. So the US, ha sfo fingerprints all throughout historic times
I would rather sacrifice economically for the remainder of my life than be under the thumb of Xi Jinping's China. The world would become a hostile place to anyone not Chinese and resource extraction would become environmentally devastating... plus I have a thing against bribes so I would be at a distinct disadvantage. America might not be all candy and the nation has done some pretty short sighted things to other countries (like the entirety of South America), along with giving corporations too much leeway to ruin things for profit, but at this point I would rather this sub-par version of American ethics to any one else looking to be in the same position. Now if Sweden or Norway or Denmark wanted to be the major power of the world, well I would probably be ok with that.
The rule is subjective. It is not a rule. China and Co saw the hypocrisy in the so-called rule based order. A rule should apply to everybody not some.
Then why did they sign onto the WTO and break every rule?
Thanks Jon! Great to see you back!!
2084 Biden and trumps heads in jars 😂 cool Futurama ref
get the rest and the entitled bureaucrats leaders of our failing institutions
Hopefully the carrots take over by then.
On the bright side, maybe we will also still have Jon Stewart's head in a jar telling 2084 Trump and Biden to get their heads out of their nonexistent butts. 😁
One of the best discussion and debate sessions I've seen 👌 Great to have stewart back 👍
Thank you, thank you… Jon Stuart, you say what needs to be said, and needs to be discussed. It’s refreshing..so thank you
The hubris of 'we've got this whole thing figured out' is not even commentated on; strange
American CEOs and Wall St sent American technology, factories, and jobs off shore (many to China) for over thirty years. Now, America's industrial base, and labor are so depleted that this "new cold war" is pretty much over, and America did not win. But Wall St got rich so it all worked out (except for how of the country is not doing too well. - no factories, no jobs, etc)
Disagree. We have been so infantilized that we - the people - think we are always blameless. Its _Always_ the Big Bad Wolf's fault. Like Jon points out "When are we going to get real with ourselves?" You, me, and every other American...without exception... beleive materialism defines us as Humans. I prove this as WE are the ones that made the decision to buy _Cheaper_ stuff manufactured offshore. If there were sneakers made in the U.S. (by NewBalance), and sneakers made in China (by NIKE), and the NB's cost $1 more, we all buy the NIKEs. Or worse, because we are all so consumed with pretending to be wealthy, Marketers tell us that an Apple iPhone (made in China) is superior - which makes you look smart and wealthy - vs. a *Librem 5 mobile phone* (Amazingly made in America _Today._ ), and under no circumstances would any of us ever buy the American made phone. You know it. I know it. Every American reading this knows it - but we will all lie and say "but the iPhone is better".
So don't blame "Fat Cat' CEO's, they are just giving you what you want. If we are looking for blame, we should be looking in the mirror.
Its called capitalism. Just accept it
@@LaicheeKang-rk7sy Let's hope Biden figures that out.
The rebuild is already in action
No jobs? Unemployment has been under 4% for two years now. And the only way we will compete globally with factories is to build modern ones that are highly automated. Otherwise goods will be even more expensive (with high import tariffs) and inflation will continue rising. There is no free lunch…
Yet another outstanding conversation.
An honest American. What a treat to watch!
As an American, I have no desire to invade another country. I assume the average person in any country feels the same. It is the insanity of world leaders that will destroy humanity.
Many Americans supported enthusiastically supported in Iraq invasion. Also a number of American funded and armed coups. The average person in any country is pretty susceptible to government lies and propaganda.
Agree. But there are a lot non-average Americans.
The average American was eager to invade Iraq. The average person in any country feels the way their leaders' propaganda tells them to feel.
Thank you, Mr Stuart !!!!!
It’s all about power, power, power..
Exactly, we were hugely naive that other countries wouldn't be just as bad (if not worse) than the rightwingers here 😔 for all our mistakes and woes from conservative administrations, we've never done anything in recent history like the Soviets did to Afghanistan, or Putin to Chechnya, Syria, or Ukraine.
Bibi's horrific tactics are mostly a mirror of the Kremlin's on a narrow scale... totally nonsensical to excuse Russian actions while (rightfully) condemning his, or mistakes from our own past. Least imo
Sometimes it’s about pushing back against power. Sometimes principle DOES matter, and sometimes the “bad guy” is obvious. For example, Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
@@artlesscalamity348Yeah, I can see that in my microworld. My neighbours are Ukrainian refugees and there's no hatred in them. They're totally mentally exhausted, and yet they are the only ones in my apartment building who open the door for me and greet me politely.
Does China play nice with intellectual property just because we uphold those laws for ourselves? Self-honesty doesn't magically nullify all geopolitical stakes. Why not reveal top secrets and be totally transparent to both friend and foe?
Self-honesty is media's focus because it facilitates internal democracy. But how much does that matter to Putin?
and power means money
Jon is awesome. Come back full time please.
Jon
Jon is getting weird in his old age. He’s acting like the US is always wrong and that other countries are right to hate us. Never mind that “other countries” are often expansionist autocracies rife with human and civil rights abuses. His comment that principles don’t matter was bizarre.
Jon is getting weird in his old age. He acts like the US is always wrong and that other countries are right to hate us. Never mind that “other countries” are often expansionist autocracies rife with human and civil rights abuses. Or that they attack our democracy as well as our allies.
Jon is wrong on a lot of points here, mainly the implication that “principles don’t matter.” Sure the US has participated in sketchy stuff in the past. But you don’t want to see the timeline where we abandon our allies and let violent autocracies take over. It’s not better.
@@artlesscalamity348 you should run for office, or write a book on your extensive experience and research on foreign politics.
Educating Americans DAILY. Thanks!!
Excellent interview! Thank you, Sir.
One lesson to learn from this: ALWAYS LISTEN TO THE BALTIC STATES. Been following them for 20 years and they've rarely been wrong. They can't afford to be anything less than realists when it comes to information.
And exactly what are the things they got right that the rest of the world got wrong?.... Dont mention Putin/Russia cos I have overheard that
Could have listened to Gorbachev as well, on how to prevent new situations like this.
Likely Taiwan will be used to weaken China before a possible world war 3.
And Taiwan
@@l9548083 When US politicians speak about NATO taking on China, who do you think will face the consequences? Who is the one instigating all of this?
Ukraine was predictable because we didn't care about what the other side has been saying for decades. We let Ukraine take the blow.
We appreciate people like you, we've been waving our hands for decades
Enjoying these long interviews that Jon has been doing. Informative and entertaining but
Frightening if you think about it
💯💯💯😔
Well, my country is not far from Ukraine and I wouldn't call this topic entertaining.
What an interview! Amazing to see two brilliant people talking to each other, even if the issue scares the little Jessu out everyone.
Jon, thanks for coming back.
Your best interview since retaking the chair Jon. You are SPOT on here 13:10 and so few, few people want to face the denial. Also loved the dig at the only winners in any war are the massive shareholders of arms and munitions stock.
Yep. MLK said it best, "The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today : My own government, I cannot be silent."
And Eisenhower as well...
“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.
"The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some 50 miles of concrete highway. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people."
"This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road that the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron."
-President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 'A Chance for Peace'
I think for me it's more insulting and hurtful for someone who claims to be nice and moral and end up causing more damage than someone who straight up you know ain't either
You're not wrong. Just like Russia always claims to be fighting for liberation while instituting terrible oppressive rule and making human rights violations the manner they wage war and govern 🤦♂️
America has hypocrisy in our history too, no doubt, but its also hypocritical to not condemn others which are just as bad if not worse (as many tend to do and almost seems like Jon is trying to do here 🙄)
I think I'd rather just have the one doing the least damage. But besides that, no country is Honest. Putin sais it's about Nazi's and to save the west. China just erases whole parts of their history so they can claim to be morally correct. America doesn't stand a chance in the hypocrisy game.
I agree with you, it would just be so much harder to sell to many people of US if the gov was upfront about the goals of invasion
"The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today : My own government, I cannot be silent." -MLK, 'Beyond Vietnam'
@@timothyrockwell2638
And that's why the CIA took care of him.
CIA = Cats in Action. 😻😻😻
Many thanks to Jon and David! ☢
Great discussion! Thank You Both💖
I bet this is the best interview in the US about Russia & China
I am speechless before this brutally honest insightful and open reckoning. I believe not only John delivered a superb interview but also he avenged his infamous runsfeld interview. Total respect
When they invaded Ukraine - no Crimea. My friend where do you think the boundaries of Ukraine are?
Right - the discourse in America has moved to a very dangerous place
What do you mean? Elaborate for us slow folk
@@shinigamicthulu6225 Crimea has been a part of Ukraine for centuries, the Russian rhetoric states that is not and as such states that the occupation of Crimea is a reclaiming of old Russian territories - this is not only false (for a number of reasons) but also extremely harmful to people living in the region who have been occupied and denied a democratic government as well as cultural identity. Not to mention the bloodshed.
@@eluna34 appreciate the explanation 👌
@@eluna34 Most Americans and a lot of west Europeans are clueless to the reality of the situation. Jon included. The obfuscating is painful.
This kind of honesty I can deal with. It's all about power and money. Insightful interview.
I know it'll never happen, but man, Jon for president would be the best thing for this nation.
just saw you on tv, you're killing it!!!
John Stewart should have his own podcast.
I could watch them talk for hours…. What a great conversation
❤ Love the show and love John.
Have been following the interviews by Jon on the Daily Show lately and is peak journalism: he asks very important and fair questions to the guests, they can't respond without admitting what we all know (and Jon says) so they don't (lots of evasive maneuvers) and then he (Jon) moves on, he says his piece, doesn't pressure them understanding that they are there mainly to promote something like this book or with their own agenda and moves on. What a sad world we are living
Well said. Jon "plays the game" but also gets his point across.
When John mentioned "two heads in a jar" I immediately thought of Futurama and Nixon winning the election 😂
I lie Jon Stewart because he is fair and real, if we have more people like him in the west the world would be better.
I love Jon Stewart ❤
This was a fascinating deep dive into world politics albeit too brief. There is much to be said and even more to be learned and discussed on how the world moves forward.
Always nice to see Jon remind the world that he's not just a comic.
Brilliant Stewart. Every response is right on target
EXACTLY! America and Brittain made a mess in Iran. Then we complain because they don't like us very much!
The Iranian government does not like us very much. I hope that the majority of Iranian people do.
@@MM-iy7gz well, we overthrew their elected government. Since they don't like the government they have as a result, well, I hope the people can forgive us.
@@MM-iy7gz From what I've heard Iranians just might be America's biggest fans. Their government on the other hand, not so much.
@@MM-iy7gz Why would they?
@@lauralafauve5520they never had an elected government lol. They always had a shah. Mossadegh was not the head of state, the parliament was not the center of decision making. While it may have killed the future development of democracy in Iran, it wasn’t really a “coup” in the traditional sense.
@6:47 "we impose our values on [them]... We're not going to do something that will jeopardize our economic interests.". - Reminds me of those old bankers who'd show up at Granny's house offering her 'twice what it's worth' and having her draw her shot gun.
I could listen to jon speak for houres , please never stop
Wow, amazing insight! Jon, you are the master! 💪💜
Thank you for mentioning the Iran coup. Imagine the Middle East sans CIA...
What would it look like today, in your imagining?
It would still be a hot mess due to both ideological and nuanced religious differences. Persian and Shia, Arab and Sunni but also competing powers in the region. You do know that they've warred for hundreds and even thousands of years long before the coup.
Jon saw through the hypocrisy of us foreign policy
Incredible interview from John Stewart. Probably one of the most depressing Daily Show clips I've ever watched, however. The search for extreme power, whether it be political, military, economic, geographic or religious..will likely be the ruin of us all
There seems to be no place for wishful thinking. A great clarification from the superb comedian.
I really wonder why you would get this *Captain Hindsight* type of guy on the show who was apparently completely taken by surprise by all of this, and not Sarah Kendzior who _predicted_ most of this _years_ in advance.
Funny how I'm getting these Daily Show clips on my feed even more often than the channels I actually subscribed to.
As an Iranian, it's sad to see that every time Iran is brought up it's only from a USA perspective and for a USA talking point about USA actions. Our struggle against one of the most brutal theocratic misogynistic regimes in the history just doesn't mean anything to anyone. I mean I get it, it's an American show, but man I just wish SOMEONE other than our own would talk about the current state of Iran under the boots of the Islamic Regime regardless of "what the bad west did wrong". Y'know... the regime that started its reign by climbing the walls of the American embassy, taking diplomats as hostages, and has not had an embassy of the United States on its land for the past 40+ years...
American history is written by imperialist criminals and propagandized in the school system. We Americans love our illusions.
Interesting and almost never remarked on viewpoint,that ks for sharing.
"As an Iranian, it's sad to see that every time Iran is brought up it's only from a USA perspective" ...
"the regime that started its reign by climbing the walls of the American embassy, taking diplomats as hostages, and has not had an embassy of the United States on its land for the past 40+ years."
For an Iranian who's sad that Iran is only discussed from an American perspective you have a remarkable affinity for the American perspective.
Thanks John for pointing out what is really happening
Glad to have you back Jon!
Tremendous respect for Jon Stewart! Takes tremendous courage to stand up to war mongering in the current US political climate.
Jon, I am right leaning, but I have missed you. Thank you for coming back
Finally I get to witness the great Jon!
I missed Trevor, I know he wanted to be fair, but for whatever reason he couldn’t be as fair and as unbiased as Jon is (maybe because he didn’t want to seem ungrateful to a country that gave him a platform as an outsider).
Thanks for asking the right questions. I don’t care if we never get a satisfying response.
Jon lost me when he came back, but im older, cynical and jaded, He won me back, I knew he was smart lol
Great interview! Thank you!
I love this new side of Jon. His questions are 🔥
Really enjoyed this. Thank you Jon
As a Russian who fled the Motherland after the 2022 invasion, the best thing US have going for them are debates like this.
Did you leave because of putin?? Just curious. I feel bad for anyone who is forced to leave their homes.
@@dawnstanley1733 there were a lot of reasons (safety and financial security among those), but the first and foremost (for me) was not to have my taxes go to invasion purposes
@@dawnstanley1733 He's not forced, he fled, as he said...
@@klas666 Thank you for answer me, I appreciate that.
@@klas666 lol. And now your taxes go to more invasion purposes, as Jon said, US did more than Russia and China combined.
Such a great show and discussion
Great conversation thank you for sharing it
One of the few journalists whose articles I never miss.
This is how we were all talking in the late 90s.
That all seemed to disappear after 9/11.
I'm glad its back.
That's just simply not true.
@@bornagaintriathlete4344 I'm Australian. I probably should have stipulated that. We, in Australia, were all talking like that about the US. It stopped after 9/11
Great discussion.
This Orthmar seems to me that he has not went to any school.
I have been working on Toronto for a few months. Now I finished the contract and back to retirement and have time to enjoy your video and comments.
Cheers
Michael from Quebec Canada
9:53 This is where the true interview starts. And I love this host for pointing the obvious out courageously unlike most journalists today and years before
Interesting convo
Better cold wars than hot ones.
I'm sold on cold.
@@RegHoldsworth-ri7hh 👍
9:50 YES! Absolutely sowed the seeds
Thank you for sharing such informative and trustworthy interviews that raises us all to a higher understanding
Great final segment on semiconductors. I have been getting chills from remembering an encounter on a business trip to China, where a professor claimed they will re-invent/re-discover chip technology (apologies to those in our field for the oversimplification) that they are prohibited from. "So you are trying to bring back some of your best from abroad?", I asked ... "No," he said, "America is sending them back to us!!!"
Actually China does have policies to bring them back with reward programs. If not legitimately then they also try to bribe them back or even threaten them/their families to get them to work for the CCP. Not just a year or two ago they had Chinese "police" stations (still do in many countries and cities) right in San Francisco to make sure they have a long reach anywhere in the world. I went to school with many Chinese students and they were a very insular group. Few of them would mingle with other non-Chinese students. Should we be educating them just so they can go back and bolster the CCP? I dunno, probably. At least then some might bring democratic values back there. It's a complicated quandary really. If we don't they stay in China anyway, at least we can keep some of the best. But then many can become a truly large security risk. Do we just monitor them extra hard after granting a work visa? Difficult.
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America's racist sinophobic culture is forcing hundreds of the best and brightest Chinese researchers and scientists back to China. Not surprising, it is history repeating itself; America is too arrogant to learn from it's history and mistakes. China's space program was literally created the same way. The father of China's space program, Qian Xuesen was driven out of America by America's racism and irrational fear of Communism.
It's not just IP, the most advanced chips require machines to make the Chinese have failed to make despite millions invested & no doubt the best spies money can buy.
The rhetoric is easy, the actual tech to make those chips not so much
U.S. sending Chinese technology? Why do you Americans always like to brainwash yourselves? Always believing all this American propaganda?
1. America was the first country in the world to have a law that discriminated against the Chinese, the Chinese Exclusion Act 1882.5.6-1943.12.17, a law that was repealed because of the World War II U.S. alliance against Japan and China.
2. Many discriminatory terms against China were invented by Americans, such as chingchong
3. China is an East Asian country, not a white western civilized country, nor is it an American ally with no American troops stationed there.
4. the US has launched many actions against Chinese or other countries' companies on the grounds of its own national interests and security, such as Alstom in 2013, Huawei a few years ago, and now TikTok.
These are all facts, facts that the US media can't hide. From the underlying logic, the US is a selfish and racist country, so how can it give China technology and resources? China relies on its own hard work and intelligence to get where it is today, and as a result you guys take credit for it in one sentence, what kind of country has what kind of citizens.
Goodness gracious
Jon Stewart is a GOAT! Salute from China.😂
Phenomenal questions by Jon. THIS is how you interview.