Unsung Cameras Of Yesteryear: The Kodak NC2000 (Featuring Rob Galbraith)

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  • We continue our Unsung Cameras Of Yesteryear series with a look at the first large sensor digital camera designed for photojournalism, the Kodak NC2000. See how far DSLRs have come since 1994, and how this camera stacks up to it's major competition at the time, film!
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    Special thanks to Rob Galbraith, Ted Wingate, Mike Drew and Leah Hennel
    Shot and edited by Jordan Drake
    Shot on the Sony FS5

ความคิดเห็น • 285

  • @chrisgavin
    @chrisgavin 8 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    This is so much more interesting than just a 'retro gear review'. Adding the interviews with the journalists was a great thing and the stories really bring this alive. Great story, good job.

  • @abinavram9774
    @abinavram9774 8 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    one has to agree, camerastoreTV blows every other camera review chanel out of the water. In love with your work guys. Plus you make calgary look like the best place to live.

    • @michaelhanson5861
      @michaelhanson5861 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely. They make the most informative, objective, professional, down-to-earth, and all around most watchable videos. I like other channels too, but when I want a straight-up honest review I come here.

    • @andresbecerra315
      @andresbecerra315 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not digitalrev tho

  • @hellocyrax
    @hellocyrax 8 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    love the old camera review series

  • @EDHBlvd
    @EDHBlvd 8 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    "Hi, this is Jordan the video guy. This camera has the same video features as the Nikon Df. Thanks."

    • @Gynra
      @Gynra 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey, I love the video features on my Df.

    • @cyrfung
      @cyrfung 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know that quote but I can't remember where it came from. Send help.

  • @MuchoBe
    @MuchoBe 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What I take home from this video is that the Kodak Ektar 100 film is just gorgeous!

  • @hksigman
    @hksigman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This brings back memories. I bought an NC2000e with my own money and used it to convince my newspaper to convert to digital photography. What a great time of my life.

  • @RyoHazuki224
    @RyoHazuki224 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow, $17,000 for that camera when it was new. My, how technology flies!
    I remember my first little digital compact camera, a 3 megapixel Olympus Stylus around 2003, cost me about $350. Last year I bought a 24 megapixel Sony A6000 for about $400 (open box item at Best Buy! Woot!)
    God I love technology advancements!!

    • @fedvvvv
      @fedvvvv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many of the $8000 digital SLRs these days will be worth a couple of hundred on the used market next decade.

  • @RodrigoVzq
    @RodrigoVzq 8 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    160% view finder coverage! Cant get that nowadays haha

    • @agogobell28
      @agogobell28 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's almost like the SLR version of a Leica rangefinder with framelines.

    • @RodrigoVzq
      @RodrigoVzq 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      agogobell28 exactly

    • @chengong388
      @chengong388 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Rodrigo Vazquez sure you can, just shoot your stuff and crop all the images.

    • @RodrigoVzq
      @RodrigoVzq 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ***** That's not how this works buddy

    • @chengong388
      @chengong388 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rodrigo Vazquez Of course it is.

  • @richudo5999
    @richudo5999 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Another great video! Thank you, very interesting and nostalgic

  • @Kdkjdjewerdnxa
    @Kdkjdjewerdnxa 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is my favorite series on this channel

  • @digitizedlight
    @digitizedlight 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video guys, more like this please!
    It was also great to see Rob Galbraith again, I was a big fan and follower of his site from the very beginning. I hope you bring him back again in future videos!
    Cheers!

  • @moop2644
    @moop2644 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    keep these vids comin! so fun to learn about cameras that were made in the past.

  • @JN87FR
    @JN87FR 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That bird at 11:36 ... "What are these humans on about?"

  • @davidshearer8184
    @davidshearer8184 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing - this is a cool series - I started shooting film in the '60s and digital around 2000 (Nikon Coolpix 990) - this brought back fond memories

  • @MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive
    @MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive ปีที่แล้ว

    The purple fire and Christmas light glares are oddly stunning.

  • @neilfisher
    @neilfisher 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see and hear Rob Galbraith :)

  • @AlbaAdventures
    @AlbaAdventures 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember having similar conversations with the Magnum photographers when I worked there. Very cool that you are doing this.

  • @23Scadu
    @23Scadu 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As someone who loves both photography gear and obsolete tech, thank you very much for this video! :D

  • @tc227
    @tc227 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this Unsung Cameras of the Yesteryear series!

  • @sidersproductions941
    @sidersproductions941 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We just don't know how good we have it these days. Well now we know.lol Thanks for the journey back.

  • @derekcoe9633
    @derekcoe9633 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    could i suggest a Nikon D1x? I've got 2 of these and some of the images are stunning but the age gap really does tell... loved the video and subscribed

  • @Serenoj69
    @Serenoj69 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice now can we pulleez...pulleez get your fantastic GX80 review!

  • @thomaskolb8293
    @thomaskolb8293 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw this...had to watch....remember this. Such an important camera for KODAK. Glad to see KODAK still makes some cameras. I bet people did hate this camera.

  • @bird271828
    @bird271828 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chris, great video. Thank you. Do you remember the Minolta RD-175 in 1995? At the time, it was state-of-the-art.

  • @stefanpapado5571
    @stefanpapado5571 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite series on this channel !!

  • @MtBrendor
    @MtBrendor 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make more of these, very cool! Also, would be great to see more old film cameras too.

  • @TenisDimants
    @TenisDimants 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Realy cool, thank you for doing this series!!

  • @johnmichaelleslie4835
    @johnmichaelleslie4835 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you're after camera suggestions for the Yesteryear series how about Epson's (brief) foray into interchangeable lens cameras with the R-D1. I actually owned one briefly back in Jan 2005 but traded it in for the much more sensible Canon 20D (the rangefinder patch on the Epson was a touch on the small side for my liking). BTW it used a CCD sensor from 2002. Oh and some people allege it was the first mirrorless camera...
    (I don't miss the camera, the 20D was just plain excellent so no regrets, but I sometimes wish I'd kept the Voigtländer lenses.)

  • @Funktrainer
    @Funktrainer 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series! I myself started with the Kodak DCS760 and DCS720X back in 2008 and went backwards over the DCS620X and DCS620 to the DCS420. I'm still using them all. Mostly the X type models with the CMYK "Xena" Sensors. They still do a great job up to around 2000 ISO and the F5 bodies are simply great in speed and handling. Image preview and the overall operation is stunningly fast. I even like them more than my D3 in terms of ergonomics and simplicity.

  • @EDHBlvd
    @EDHBlvd 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was amazing. Thank you Chris and Jordan!

  • @djkraus68
    @djkraus68 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember using the Kodak DCS420 in the mid 90's and we would use a hot mirror filter to alleviate some of the issues you were having with the NC2000.

  • @erinrosehallett
    @erinrosehallett 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously this must be the best channel not just on TH-cam but on all forms of media, but only if your into your photography of course, How about some videos on flashes, bags and tripods next?

  • @danandjenphotography4967
    @danandjenphotography4967 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great video, its nice to see some history, ive always wanted to see those titans in action!

  • @MarcS4R
    @MarcS4R 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is awesome, hope to see more of this series :)

  • @gzignl
    @gzignl 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved Rob's website. I miss it really. Good to see him alive and well :)

  • @BOTzerker
    @BOTzerker 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Radio Control enthusiasts have used self-made external battery packs since the early 2000s in order to fly/race/whatever all day without having to charge the radio controller until they got home.

  • @jpsiable
    @jpsiable 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great series! There are so many interesting cameras from the past: Leaf DCB1, Nikon D2h, Olympus E-1, Kodak Dcs 14, Canon D30, just to name a few.

  • @nikonrulz
    @nikonrulz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video guys...this channel rocks!!

  • @rustynugget2288
    @rustynugget2288 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    camera rookies would love that rig. the size makes it look uber professional as they'd say

  • @w0lfyovi294
    @w0lfyovi294 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome ... can't wait to see the next episodes

  • @yashwinning
    @yashwinning 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys should review film cameras and how to get into film photography and which films to use to get the best pictures

  • @brianminkc
    @brianminkc 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    the images are very good. I bought my first digital camera back in this era. It was a Kodak 1 megapixel. It took beautiful images. Did not have the resolution to make large prints. I loved it from day one... making me much smarter than all these other photographers.

  • @MacquarieRidge
    @MacquarieRidge 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these weird old cameras. I have a dcs420 that I use all the time. Sure its nowhere near perfect, but that's what I love about it.

  • @JeanV1986
    @JeanV1986 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid :) Thanks for the work, guys!

  • @KanalThomas
    @KanalThomas 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome presentation! Want to see more...

  • @EdwardmossCoUk
    @EdwardmossCoUk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Used one of these when I worked for the Birmingham Post around 1999-2002, as horrible as the video shows. Purple files, blown highlights and slow motorwind, it really was worse then shooting transparency. TTL flash never worked and I lost a lot of confidence in my abilities as a press photographer. Took about 6 months to get used to it. Still never really cracked sport with it, it had delay on the shutter so you had to press the shutter before the action happened, in the wild hope you got the action. Think I got loads of legs on the edge of frames..There was also a massive problem in sending the files back to the office..took forever...Landline at 56k was the superfast option...

  • @texaslonestarrider
    @texaslonestarrider 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic Video! Thanks For Sharing!

  • @ZdenekPesek
    @ZdenekPesek 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey dude this is absolutely perfect keep going!!!!

  • @GabrielAndroczky
    @GabrielAndroczky 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice little birdie spying on you guys at 11:36 :))

  • @SakiniCZ
    @SakiniCZ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the old Sigma SD DSLR´s would be interesting, with the crazy blue (if I would be in Canada, I would lend my "like new" SD10 for this).

  • @R2_D3
    @R2_D3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own a Kodak DCS Pro SLR/n, and it has a beautiful 13.5MP Full-Frame CMOS sensor, the HDR is great, and gives beautiful detailed pictures. (no need for bracketing and editing to HDR!!) Not a good camera for low light, if you raise the ISO it gets really grainy, but in nice daylight, it's a beautiful camera to use!! Batteries drain fast, and it's pretty slow, but in its time it was a great camera, and still is actually.

  • @headwerkn
    @headwerkn ปีที่แล้ว

    Curiously enough this was the first digital camera I ever got my hands on, back in 1995, as a work experience student assisting a department store catalogue shoot. Got to fire off a few frames of folded towels!!! Still, being allowed to use a $12K camera at the age of 15 was a thrill. I wouldn’t see/touch another digital camera until 1998… that was an Apple QuickTake 150, much less impressive! 😂

  • @intercoreDESIGN
    @intercoreDESIGN 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video guys, I love that you guys are looking at these unsung hero cameras that in some form have helped to shape the products and overall photography industry today. Shows the progress that the field of photography has experienced, and also funny that people still complain in regards to image quality still these day's especially considering where it all started, and how revolutionary it was and still is in interconnecting people from all over the world.
    Really excited to be apart of the contest for the beautiful Fujifilm s5 pro, I've always wanted to play around with one as the colours produced from fuji's sensor is so unique, and has in a way an indescribable beauty. others can take a look at various image samples on flickr.
    also on a side note the Link to the google form isn't working as also noted by other viewers.

    • @TheCameraStoreTV
      @TheCameraStoreTV  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Gavin Balderson The link is fixed, good luck in the contest!

  • @leungyikwai
    @leungyikwai 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    kodak ektar 100 is awesome film

    • @jpsholland
      @jpsholland 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ektar 24 for sunsets..... drool.....

  • @stevengeorges9046
    @stevengeorges9046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I shot with the NC2000 and NC2000e (the “e” was the slightly improved version) I recall the camera bodies costing around $16,000 apiece. The quality was as horrible as the battery. At the time we were shooting color negatives and scanning them into our Macintosh with a Kodak Rapid Film Scanner. (Such as the RFS 3570) In addition to the PCMCIA cards and card readers that used SCSI ports, it only produced their own version of a RAW file (no jpegs) and required a special Photoshop plug-in to read them as Photoshop didn't recognize the file format on its own. Part of the cost was that it came with support from AP at big events. Something I found to be worthless when at the Oscars one year, the camera stoped working. The AP repair/representative said that the computer board inside the camera came loose and said that was a common problem with that camera. I asked him if he could fix it and he said sure, but he didn’t have the tool to get into the camera. So we were on our own and had to come up with an emergency backup plan to shoot the Academy Awards that year with film.
    No one on staff liked using that camera and it sat in the pool locker for most of the year.

  • @wanderingshxt
    @wanderingshxt 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Very educational, but also fun :D

  • @ProSimex84
    @ProSimex84 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just picked up a F90x and it's a great film body especially for manual focus. 20 years from now I will be shooting it and my other film cameras, but my DSLR will be useless. nice video

  • @sasatrifunovski
    @sasatrifunovski 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey guys - great video :)
    I found very recently old MInolta XG7 and started shooting film a bit - really rewarding experience,I must add :)
    Any chance of doing that review as well?
    Also may a comprehensive video about films for us younger photographers junst to see difference from film to film to see which one we could try :)
    thanks

  • @GabrijelOfficiel
    @GabrijelOfficiel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best episode ever

  • @Gynra
    @Gynra 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Entertaining and informative - keep 'em coming!

  • @एड्वर्डकॅस्ट्रो
    @एड्वर्डकॅस्ट्रो 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm liking these videos guys, keep it up!

  • @simitometi6219
    @simitometi6219 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this analog series. You guys should teach a class yourselves!

    • @RogueSwan
      @RogueSwan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Simi Not analogue - old digitals. I think you are getting your YT channels confused :-)

  • @danieldowdell1738
    @danieldowdell1738 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great informative video! I also really enjoyed the one on the s5pro as it was my main camera and is my backup since i moved to d610. Just was wondering will any of the "throwback" videos go back to film cameras? As a collector and frequent user of vintage cameras I would love to see that! Keep up the good work!

    • @TheCameraStoreTV
      @TheCameraStoreTV  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Film cameras are in the queue, we just wanted to jump on the NC2000 while it was still running. Good film cameras keep going forever!
      Jordan @ TCSTV

  • @VIDEOSdeJOAOSOUSA
    @VIDEOSdeJOAOSOUSA 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Lexus at 5:23, love it.

  • @rjpg
    @rjpg 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the stories from the photographers

  • @jankarlsson8341
    @jankarlsson8341 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello favorite camera channel, is the Panasonic GX85 coming your way?

  • @PhinioxGlade
    @PhinioxGlade 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you "review" the Sony Mavica. My first digital camera wrote to 3.5 inch floppy disks. It was useless for anything else than the stop motion I used it for.

  • @grifinx
    @grifinx 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG those pics made me think of the ones in my middle school text books

  • @AMills-ox4ch
    @AMills-ox4ch 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely liking the retrospective. If nothing else, it's a great reminder of how quickly we've progressed and what we take for granted now. Maybe I'll go take my Canon 350D along with my Nikon D800E next time I go out. Or my Canon S110.... No, not that one, the 2001 Digital Elph.

  • @edubassplayer2
    @edubassplayer2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm quite impressed with the image quality

  • @jamesfield2442
    @jamesfield2442 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so interesting well done guys.

  • @xumengyuan7890
    @xumengyuan7890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i wish fuji have something with this styling. will be v nostalgic

  • @michellammerse6470
    @michellammerse6470 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great! Brings back some memories! :-)

  • @MichalT
    @MichalT 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more classic cameras review!

  • @catrionanoble4091
    @catrionanoble4091 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi guys !! I am learning Photography !! Using my beloved deceased brothers Fiji S5 !! He shot my wedding in Bali 2007 and passed 2008 !! I haven't really used his gear as so complicated! I have a new Nikon ! But want to use his camera

  • @filipsalapa
    @filipsalapa 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome episode!

  • @TheRam9126
    @TheRam9126 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a good video like the old camera for my collection

  • @villegas24
    @villegas24 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    best series to date

  • @surferboy36O
    @surferboy36O 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I would love to own that camera. I like the colours.

  • @dphotos007
    @dphotos007 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started with a Canon AE1 in 1980. My first digital camera was a Canon IDs Mark ll.

  • @Moonrakerd
    @Moonrakerd 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to have Kodak dcs 520, loved it ;] my first dslr

  • @FelipeSandovalGarrido
    @FelipeSandovalGarrido 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Jordan , What was all that flickering about, from a technical point of view. It shows up again at 4:07.
    Nice video though! :) Keep the good work, guys!

    • @TheCameraStoreTV
      @TheCameraStoreTV  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Felipe Sandoval We haven't been able to duplicate the issue, so we don't know for sure what caused it. I suspect it might have something to do with the electronic ND filter on the Sony FS5.
      Jordan @ TCSTV

  • @SAnne-pc8hc
    @SAnne-pc8hc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saved a Kodak DCS years ago from the studio trash only to throw it in the bin years later. I'll never miss CCD DSLRs.

  • @AhpgZfoc4s
    @AhpgZfoc4s 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember seeing the NC2000 at the mall for Santa photos. Hoping the D2000/DCS520 is in the pipeline.

  • @shreddz
    @shreddz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely love this series and you guys went above and beyond! These frankencameras are insane, but a similar concept with modern technology turning k1000's into basic k1's? Nikon F's into d...nevermind, it won't work.

  • @Photoandcargeek
    @Photoandcargeek 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    At the time photojournalists were shooting the F4, F5, EOS 3, Minolta Dynax 9 (and the models below such as the F90X, EOS 3 or the Dynax 7) ... the time of the FM, FE, FA Nikons was long gone when this Kodak NC2000 came to market.

    • @erincthomson
      @erincthomson 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Photoandcargeek Yes but as the contest involves seeing a vintage camera of our choosing and because I hadn't shot my old camera in awhile you get what we showed. Your right though, the EOS 3, F4, F5, Dynax 9, all dominated the market. Still I bet many photojournalists in 1994 were still rocking Nikon FMs, T90s, Pentax LXs, for certain situations.
      Chris @ TCSTV

    • @Photoandcargeek
      @Photoandcargeek 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, pro photographers still used old manual cameras such as the FMs in the 90s but not really for work as the then modern cameras where better in every possible way except if you were shooting where batteries wouldn't work well like in the polar circle for example .... or except if you were Bill Cunningham who until very recently was still shooting a Nikon FM! But even Cunningham recently switched to AF and digital! I don't dislike these cameras, I actually love them and own a lot of these retro and not so retro film cameras that I have used over the years as a photographer or for family use (FM, Leica M6 ...) and, beauty of film photography, is that well calibrated and used properly these retro cameras will produce the exact image quality as an EOS 1V or an F5. On top of that retro cameras are fun to use because they make you think and slow down although I still love using my F5 or EOS 3 too but that is close to the digital experience in the sense that they do the job as well or better than you if you let them. My point was just that pro had stopped using them a long long long time ago and now they are back thanks to hipsters... thanks to them the second hand value of my gear has risen from almost 0 to not much but some money!

  • @GrotrianSeiler
    @GrotrianSeiler 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg, this was the geekiest coolest video. Loved it! This is a great series. (as I show my age)

  • @jackmckechnie5801
    @jackmckechnie5801 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting..I wish you guys would do the Olympus E1

  • @fedvvvv
    @fedvvvv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still shoot film and the Nikon N90s / F90x is my favorite camera. I bought one last month for $40 in mint condition. No need to pay hundreds for an F100 or F5.

  • @cmiller7299
    @cmiller7299 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was waiting the whole episode to hear Jordan's thoughts on the video capabilities. Way to forget that part, guys.

  • @omarabuyaman437
    @omarabuyaman437 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am convinced about my camera now!

  • @westsenkovec
    @westsenkovec 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the contest still open?

  • @lescobrandon3047
    @lescobrandon3047 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understood that those cameras were F series 35mm film cameras converted to digital. Not sure though. They were around $5k at the time so I later bought an Olympus E-10 which was much better at 4.1 megapixels but it ate AA batteries. Still have it.

  • @TheTukTuk2008
    @TheTukTuk2008 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob Galbraith, Ladies and Gentlemen!!!

  • @legendp2011
    @legendp2011 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    it would be interesting to see a comparison between this and canons first digital slr, just to see how things progressed in that short time span (like the d2000 or 1d)

  • @MadsJaeger
    @MadsJaeger 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video!

  • @kazzakazza6377
    @kazzakazza6377 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating

  • @MyRetroJourney
    @MyRetroJourney 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pleeeease make an episode about the Olympus E-1 ☺

  • @sophrapsune
    @sophrapsune 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, really interesting, thanks.

  • @StreetsOfVancouverChannel
    @StreetsOfVancouverChannel 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Strrrrrrrrrrrrrrangely entertaining :)