Painting The Most Honest Nude

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  • Lucian Freud painted many portraits of Sue Tilley, Benefits Supervisor Sleeping being one of them. Find out why.
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  • @TheCanvasArtHistory
    @TheCanvasArtHistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Check out youtube.com/@germinaal for the full interview!

    • @joejoe2658
      @joejoe2658 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yay. in a previous video you mentioned a 2nd channel but i couldn't find it. you make excellent videos.

    • @user-jz5vn4pi1j
      @user-jz5vn4pi1j 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello , do you have an email adresse ? I have to contact you . Thank you in advance .

    • @airtale8725
      @airtale8725 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's rather sad that you get demonetised, while islamist groups openly advocating for murder and defending marrying children are just floating around freely

    • @motherisape
      @motherisape 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He looks too good to be 70 yr old definitely not real

    • @MrCanadatom
      @MrCanadatom 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I had the same impression, looking at the firm muscle tone. But the approach is brutal, not so much honest. The thick, pitted paint of his pictures makes them look like relief sculptures made of putty

  • @catarmy9496
    @catarmy9496 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +720

    It's wonderful to see this painting being discussed with the model without prejudice or judgment. There's so much openness and warmth in this video and the topic isn't approached as simply provocative which I love. Thanks!

  • @ahnmensch3115
    @ahnmensch3115 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +546

    I love that you reached out to the actual model for an interview, and I love it even more that she was willing to participate!

    • @TheCanvasArtHistory
      @TheCanvasArtHistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      I was extremely excited to talk to Art History in person! It really was amazing

  • @leehayes4019
    @leehayes4019 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +268

    She looked comfortable in the painting. Then the interview showed she is really chill so that adds up!

    • @TheCanvasArtHistory
      @TheCanvasArtHistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      She's incredibly chill!

    • @whoknowswhocares885
      @whoknowswhocares885 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She was incorporated in another one of Freud's paintings where she is laid back in couch, the buyer of the painting placed it in his TV room before he sold it off to a private collection. Tilley had preferred it displayed in a room like that because she said mostly while being painted she was kept in a comfortable pose and at rest, as one should be when watching TV.

  • @valentinapa4947
    @valentinapa4947 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +287

    It’s so rare to have the chance to know the behind the scenes of a painting or the story behind it, it’s incredible that Sue shared it with you!

    • @TheCanvasArtHistory
      @TheCanvasArtHistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      She's incredible! I can't be thankful enough for her generosity!

  • @umairahfaridfaisal2778
    @umairahfaridfaisal2778 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    An addition to the experience, I'm a third year medical student, just 2 months ago walked into a hospital after two years of air-conditioned halls and indifferent lectures. There's something whiplash-y abt growing up exposed to polished perfection everywhere in media and then facing the indifference of flesh.
    In the medical field, beauty goes out the window and is replaced with a manic, fevered desperation for the sanctity of life. 55 years old in a woman is young, too young, exceptionally young. To die at 65 in a country with a life expectancy of 70 is to DIE YOUNG.
    In the medical field the body is both a cruel, callous entity indifferent to its owner's suffering and also a battle-hardened, manic survivor desperate for you to see tomorrow. Humanity's true nature is in it's fleshy indifference and the fact that we're spoon-fed beauty and attractiveness as the pinnacle of desire is morbidly antithetical to how we are and how we exist. The body is terrifying and disgusting and Lovecraftian and the fact that we worship beauty as fervently as if it's a religion is the horror.

    • @fatherburning358
      @fatherburning358 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for your comment. Reality, I found for myself and how I interact with life, is freedom. Great writing too. 🤍🙏

  • @bonodev2518
    @bonodev2518 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    I think that the naked body has two sides. An innocent and a lustful one. It is interesting that an artist can take what we view as erotic and turn it innocent.

  • @ladyintheradiator
    @ladyintheradiator 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I don’t think it’s cruel, i find it sobering yet refreshing as these are the bodies that we’re most likely to resonate with. Not Michaelangelo but Lucien’s

    • @DEADMALLANGEL
      @DEADMALLANGEL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Refreshing is a good way to describe it. Refreshingly honest, comfortingly real

  • @Jurnicurn
    @Jurnicurn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    I instantly love the honesty. Seeing parts of her that looks familiar and that others and me try to hide, just displayed like that. It gives space for realness. And I almost feel like we're not spose to look at them but then we do and that's such a freeing feeling. Not hiding "real" bodies and just exploring and viewing them. Amazing! Love it. Takes away shame and gives room for fascination and love for our bodies.

    • @ahill4642
      @ahill4642 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Beautifully said.

  • @PaolaCarlos
    @PaolaCarlos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The most profound thing about this piece it's how transparent it is. It comes at you saying "this is what it is" and it doesn't pretend to be nothing more

  • @MegadoseTheOutsiderArtist
    @MegadoseTheOutsiderArtist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +174

    It reminds me of another amazing naked nudes artist, Alice Neel. I mean, she painted people in general, but her nudes as well as her own nude when she was in her 70s was beautiful just like Lucian's painting. Alice Neel is my favorite artist. You should do a video on her!

    • @MegadoseTheOutsiderArtist
      @MegadoseTheOutsiderArtist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      PS, my Great grandmom went to the same art school as she did at the same time, I don't know if they knew each other.... But who knows! 😁 My Mimi was an awesome artist also

    • @danielduarte7547
      @danielduarte7547 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nah

    • @MegadoseTheOutsiderArtist
      @MegadoseTheOutsiderArtist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danielduarte7547 what does "nah" mean?

  • @someuser4166
    @someuser4166 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    painting nudes is an interesting topic. i started out drawing back in 2013 because i was a h***y teenager and i wanted to draw nsfw stuff but throughout the years as a studied art and anatomy all that disappeared and it became very academical instead. Now i mostly enjoy drawing old people because you get to draw all the bony landmarks and define muscle insertions, very much different from what i did when i started out when i just wanted to draw attractive anime women.

    • @harperbye
      @harperbye 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I love how my perception of the human body has changed since I started paintinig nudes. I almost feel liberated

  • @meurtri9312
    @meurtri9312 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    imagine being able to interview the mona lisa "like yeah i did have eyebrows at the time but the paint's faded ya know"

  • @besteven
    @besteven 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    It's refreshing to hear from the model, and in practical and "normal" conversation without affectations or pretensions of specialness. Quite lovely.

  • @kristenskousen1317
    @kristenskousen1317 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I'm glad we have a prolific-enough artist that paints people this way. As an artist I do love idealized figures and I do think people should still paint idealized figures, but I also love just the weird uniqueness of the real bodies I see around me, and love depicting that and seeing that depicted as well.

    • @texanarchy666
      @texanarchy666 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly. Arts like a liquid. It should fill all possible niches and be used for anything.

  • @katieeckler7543
    @katieeckler7543 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Great video. What a wonderful perspective to have on these paintings. You’re right, the “sexual nature” of the paintings comes from the viewer, as these paintings are not inherently sexual at all. The way it’s viewed says more about the viewer than Lucien Freud. Wonderful discussion

  • @odothedoll2738
    @odothedoll2738 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My girl is just straight up vibing I love her. What a woman

  • @gyosob7265
    @gyosob7265 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    the interview segment is so fun, it would be great if you did it again

    • @TheCanvasArtHistory
      @TheCanvasArtHistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      People seem to have really loved it (or really love Sue). I have no choice but to do it again!

  • @kornkorn4202
    @kornkorn4202 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I saw this image (the thumbnail) on Tumblr, ngl, but I was obsessed with it as soon as I saw it. My mom had always told me I'd look like that when I got older and, seeing that, I don't worry because I know people still paint these bodies. Someone knows these bodies well enough to paint them.

  • @milaces1323
    @milaces1323 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    I think this is my favourite video of yours so far. What a priviledge you got to talk to the model and know how this painting was made!

  • @jeanniebylinowski6475
    @jeanniebylinowski6475 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    This is so fascinating. The human body will always be a compelling subject for artists and art lovers because it is, fundamentally, us. As a subject, the body is dynamic, skin tones change and have depth, muscles flex and relax, bones show their presence through a veil of flesh. It is us, but it is also just a body. I'd like to see a warm acceptance of the reality of a body in these paintings, but I also love that he was just trying to challenge himself, to present his vision, not his opinion.

  • @JAI_8
    @JAI_8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It’s the social and personal discomfort caused by having to observe nudes that subvert normal expectations (which is mostly that nudes MUST be depictions with overt sexual intentions) that lend this terrific painting its power. Paintings like this, executed with the care an in the manner in which Freud did them, make it clear that whatever sexual content is to be found in them (other than the few examples of his work in which his subjects were clearly intimate with each other in some way) comes almost entirely from the viewer.
    Most of Freud’s work functions in this way, but this painting of Sue is an especially powerful example of it.
    Thanks for conducting this terrific interview and posting this very interesting video. I’ve always loved Freud’s portraits and his nudes. This is a great exploration of one of his best!

  • @MicaFarrierRheayan
    @MicaFarrierRheayan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Her friendship is just incredible. She looks younger because she is always honest and live in the moment. Flipping humble as well. It just shows that surrounding is paramount in shaping your well being

  • @imogenx9145
    @imogenx9145 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sue seems like such a cool model and person

  • @kozy15x
    @kozy15x 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The problem I have with this assessment , is thst you want to endow every single piece with this intentional philosophical significance, and never talk about them as a physical work. Lucien Freaud's work are a testament to the sensual joy of paint. Just as Sue said, these are paintings first and foremost. You could talk about just his application of paint and his use of warm pallettes for an entire video before you even mention the social significance. Painters love the paint itself as much or more than what their works mean, and with Freaud, you miss a great opportunity to discuss a master of applying paint and creating flesh, his obsession, and one of the most common but elusive surfaces in the history of art. Source= am painter. Also thank you for your work and for talking to the model, I loved that.

  • @brianbuch1
    @brianbuch1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    Freud depicted the reality of his and other humans' bodies. But to say that he "simply" depicted reality is to miss something about how he worked. The nude you showed at 11:14 is not less real. The unreality in that picture isn't the body, which isn't really idealized, but the setting, as if she's among the whitecaps while being on the beach. But the style is "realism", even photo-realism.
    Freud's style is anything but. He shows a real person's real body and one that's more common among humans (like his own) than among pictures at a gallery. But the style is thick impasto, along with rather random-seeming markings. There's little attempt at making a picture of a person and much more at making an impression of that person. Freud goes well beyond mere realism to real feeling.

    • @milesgeneral
      @milesgeneral 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      You make a very interesting point, but personally I would say the painting at 11:14 is not in the style of realism, but of idealism. Even though the painting itself looks more realistic (which many idealistic paintings often do) both the subject and background are not painted as they are in reality, but changed by the painter to match their idea of perfection or the ideal. Like you said the waves are unrealistic, but they are stunning, and this extends to the subject too. Notice her skin is essentially perfect, and despite the wind of being by the shore her hair drapes behind her to frame her face and upper body. Between the subject and the background you could never see this in real life, so though it looks real, I’d say it’s actually ideal. On the other hand Lucian Freud’s paintings are almost a perfect anti-idealism in style, where the way he paints is not trying to appear realistic the way a photo does, but what Freud is painting is altered as little as possible between what he sees, and what ends up on the canvas. So though you’re very right that Freud’s paintings are not an example of realism in the way that they are painted, they are at the same time a perfect example of realism in what it is that he paints. His subjects are not idealized to match a standard be pleasing to a viewer, they are not abstracted to symbolize anything the artist wishes to represent, and they aren’t directed to tell a story. Freud’s painting are simply what is. They are simply real.

  • @angelicart.6
    @angelicart.6 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    she sounds like a lovely lady, very open minded for her age honestly

  • @wappenschmied
    @wappenschmied 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great episode, I’m glad you took the rather rare opportunity to include the model’s perspective!

  • @chimichangaVA
    @chimichangaVA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Gonna quickly watch this before it gets possibly age restricted because the thumbnail deeply intrigued me, as i've never seen such a painting like this before.

  • @DoloresJNurss
    @DoloresJNurss 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sheer honesty for honesty's sake can in itself be a profound enough statement, without embellishment.

  • @RD-lt3ht
    @RD-lt3ht 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sue is way smarter than "intellectual" art critics.❤❤❤

  • @moralebooster8437
    @moralebooster8437 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love Sue!!! Thank you for interviewing her

  • @zordorfe
    @zordorfe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im taking art history for alevel because of you tbh, youre such an inspiration to me and your vids have sort of unlocked this passion for art history and criticism so thank you lol

  • @antoinepetrov
    @antoinepetrov 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Although I've seen and know very little of Lucian Freud, he's one of those who get stuck in your mind very easily. Great video again! I'd love to see videos about the Renaissance and Baroque though

  • @courtneycoleman6849
    @courtneycoleman6849 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow!! So amazing that you were able to interview the actual subject, your effort is much appreciated

  • @CardboardBots
    @CardboardBots 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thanks for this video and going the extra mile and having the model give her insights. Very educational.

  • @judylearn7971
    @judylearn7971 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a wonderful visual essay on these portraits. Your videos are always insightful, and so worthwhile. Thank you for deepening my understanding of art and artists.

  • @steveharris1974
    @steveharris1974 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is superb, I had been on a Lucian Freud documentary binge lately and I had taken from them indications by the artist and his associates that his primary objective with these works was compositional, leaving everything else up to the viewer. There was a definite feeling of, I'll do the painting and you can add or take away whatever you want from it, because my work here is done.

  • @GoDS_DOIN_WORK
    @GoDS_DOIN_WORK 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love the level of professionalism and sensitivity you have shown while making this video. Your channel is a breath of fresh air. Keep up the great work.

  • @kweekwog
    @kweekwog 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for introducing me to these paintings and even more so the perspective of this artist vs the audience. It's something I have experienced often in my own world...I suppose that's just part of the ride and meta-show!

  • @KyungShotwell
    @KyungShotwell 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    They are gorgeous! Thank you for all you do!

  • @Sangria
    @Sangria 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm amazed you interviewed the model of this painting. This is what makes your channel so special! Thank you

  • @erikgerbst3446
    @erikgerbst3446 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    huh, interesting truly

  • @LDTabuena
    @LDTabuena 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a filmmaker and an artist, I learned so much from this. Thank you so much for the conversations.

  • @kyleek6152
    @kyleek6152 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ive been watching your videos in between my own paintings. your thoughtful analysis and showcasing of these pieces has been an inspiration to experiment more

  • @mch12311969
    @mch12311969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've actually seen a number of Freud's paintings at an exhibition, and I have to agree with your take that they are honest, and that in my opinion is what makes them so interesting.

  • @Nylak-Otter
    @Nylak-Otter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I haven't heard of this artist before, but I like it quite a bit, because my own style is similar and due to the same reasons.
    I started all of my art with animals as the subject, because they're what I understand and observe the most, so from sculpture to paintings to animations it was always animals. You don't really feel the need to exagerate or idealize a rendition of an animal, because they are what they are, and to see them any different way would be unrealistic and pushing a weird ideal onto a natural creature. When I got more comfortable with human subjects, I didn't see a reason to change that.
    Of course in my commissioned work, I had to appeal to the customer, but what I worked on in my own time was different than what I did for rent money. 😂
    Anyway, thanks for this introduction! I'll need to look into him more on my own.

    • @laurelalloro
      @laurelalloro 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Furry detected

  • @MrWez27
    @MrWez27 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I think it's a false dichotomy to say that because Lucian Freud didn't idealise his portraits he therefore painted with a "cruel honesty." I've never seen his paintings as being in any way "ungenerous". And this notion wouldn't have made any sense to the artist himself. Freud is rooted in a tradition of "warts and all" painting stretching back to the Protestant reformation (see Hans Holbein, Rembrandt etc.) In this tradition, there is no need to beautify the world, because it is already intensely beautiful as it is. It is only a question of being receptive to it.

    • @willnelson3362
      @willnelson3362 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah, when I look at these paintings, they strike me as beautiful (in a broad sense), somehow just capturing the miraculous beauty of reality. It's a completely non-analytical, non-intellectual experience. I think it has something to do with his style. They're not realistic to me at all. A photograph wouldn't work the same magic.

    • @MrWez27
      @MrWez27 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's right: "realism" is not the right word when talking about Freud. Perhaps "naturalistic truth" would be a better term?

  • @jeridoney7604
    @jeridoney7604 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really appreciate your commentary and summation in this video. Thank you.

  • @antrant7533
    @antrant7533 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m glad you talked about this! I actually drew this awhile back for anatomical practice!

  • @agnesalfandari3899
    @agnesalfandari3899 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this is my first time commenting on your video but, watching this, i feel like i have to. Your work is so amazing and interesting, i watch all your videos with the same passion that you have making them and i love that as viewers we can feel it. This video is incredible as usual and really moved me, can't wait for your next !

  • @luccaassis4283
    @luccaassis4283 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I needed this video. Fantastic!

  • @tommaxwell429
    @tommaxwell429 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got to give this woman kudos for having the courage and confidence to pose and then come on and talk about it. This confirms what I have always thought, people want to read more into art than ever intended by the artists.

  • @countingstars9781
    @countingstars9781 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Completely enamoured with these videos. I wish this were a podcast, I'd love to listen to these when commuting to work. Love this channel, keep it up!

  • @jeffhidalgo8457
    @jeffhidalgo8457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! I loved this one! Thank you.
    Cheers Jeff
    Merry Christmas!

  • @kikkupop9714
    @kikkupop9714 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really respect that you do these videos even though they get demonetised. Thank you

  • @haubenmeisewillow-tit331
    @haubenmeisewillow-tit331 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love to stand back and whach my feelings react to a picture of the unexpected!
    First the emotional System goes on Alarm, "something is wrong!!!"
    Repulsion, question, rage outrage, disgust.... etc.
    Then the brain kicks in with the eternal analysis: Symbols? Social critique? Changing if ideale? Hate of women? Contempt of social norms and standards....?
    An then looking, looking, watching, waiting....
    "A Rose, is a Rose,is a Rose."
    And slowly it hapens: the visual reality overcommes and grows above you.
    It transcendens us and you see one thing, and one thing only: beauty! It resonates within you.
    Simple put, it becommes art!
    I hope thats not to pretencious, but it just happend to me while listening to you. Its such a wonderfull experiance! I love it. 😊
    Thank you for the wonderful glimpse into this Artists work, and the Interview with a great woman. 🙏

  • @buddhahoo1
    @buddhahoo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent interview and video. Thank you.

  • @leonstevens1382
    @leonstevens1382 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant video! I have never heard about this magnificent artist!

  • @borealmarinda4337
    @borealmarinda4337 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This story is a real testament to how much force simple depiction has in art. We talk about the surprising unintentionality of Freud's subjects, but I just wonder how similar it is for the other side, the side that made this surprising. Can we say that the built up expectation of who gets depicted in art and how they get depicted has this effect? The effect of making people think that painting like Lucian Freud has the intention of attack?
    It just shows that there is some real force that art has. That what we see in the creation of others is a real and powerful part of the world. No matter how mundane something can be, or how little we notice it, the fact that it's there is imprinted in us. And it makes the mundanity that we don't expect art to show even more powerful.

  • @cognitivadissonantia
    @cognitivadissonantia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i just found out about your channel and i’m so happy you exist, thank you!

  • @charleneong
    @charleneong 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is life-affirming. That is all i have to say, at least for now. May come back and add a more intelligent response later. But thank you for bringing this artist to my attention. I felt my life and self perception change as i watched this video.

  • @SepulvedaBoulevard
    @SepulvedaBoulevard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We can never assume that the artist is trying to depict the model in any particular way. The artist is painting a picture, and the model is a resource, a tool, an inspitation. It's like in music: the band plays the song, but the producer makes the record. It's important to see the difference

  • @thomaspryor8202
    @thomaspryor8202 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for posting!! Great content!!!!

  • @CleoHarperReturns
    @CleoHarperReturns 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The mirror you've held up has been so very uplifting. Normally, my inner dialogue is sadistically critical; for once I've seen something good within me. Nudes of idealized women always cause me to squirm inwardly. It can feel impossible as a woman to be seen without being sexualized from every direction. Instead of being compared to someone like Emily Dickinson in my youth, I was compared to Jessica Rabbit.
    From the beginning of this video the nudes you exhibited felt familial and intimate. As fast as scent-memory, I was a small child again, waiting as my mother and grandmother dressed for the day in the early morning hours. The inner world of family and women bathed in the warm light of home.
    Then you spoke of the discomfort others had for Lucian's work and I was actually proud of myself, because his work invoked a profound response within me rather than that of revulsion. Thank you so much for helping me to feel good about who I am, and for introducing me to such a brilliant painter. You have truly enriched my life.

  • @adnelvstad8656
    @adnelvstad8656 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wonderful presentation!❤️

  • @abirsen5146
    @abirsen5146 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant essay as always great insight.

  • @yousefashmeh1468
    @yousefashmeh1468 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really thanks for the touching speech!

  • @TimmyTangents
    @TimmyTangents 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow, it’s just a stream of consistently great content from this channel.

  • @radcabbage2341
    @radcabbage2341 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great interview. Im english and this is the kind of lady id have a drink and a laugh with

  • @rosa97509
    @rosa97509 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this video is such a great insight

  • @daniellehebert2048
    @daniellehebert2048 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm so glad I found your channel.

  • @yoavco99
    @yoavco99 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In regards to how critics view art pieces. There is a great meta-commentary about it in the form of a game named "The Beginner's Guide"

  • @chuckeelhart1746
    @chuckeelhart1746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome! Thanks again for a great posting.

  • @jessicam3676
    @jessicam3676 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I too was anticipating your commentary on Lucian Freud’s work. Your love and admiration of art is always the through theme. Building up and bringing to light rather than criticism without giving grace.
    So, watching the stream of paintings I felt immersed in the compositions of flesh. Blues, taupes, reds, pinks- and I remembered the Pantone color of the year 2024. I’ve liked reading the analyst descriptions of some of the industry chosen colors, specifically what the color’s relationship is to society and culture at the time and as a reaction to the past. The color is beautiful and the paintings hold the same.
    Introducing Pantone Color of the Year 2024: PANTONE 13-1023 Peach Fuzz. A velvety gentle peach whose all-embracing spirit enriches mind, body, and heart.

  • @AutumnAu
    @AutumnAu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    another fantastic video

  • @stormdodunski2386
    @stormdodunski2386 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love her 😮

  • @ladybeavanerdventures
    @ladybeavanerdventures 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wouldnt call this a cruel honesty these are beautiful showing us what real bodies look like not the photoshopped images you see in magazines

  • @ahill4642
    @ahill4642 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The portrait is poignant in its realness. It brought tears to my eyes, for very personal reasons. What an interesting video, thank you for it.

  • @gollygoshyouthink3440
    @gollygoshyouthink3440 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    This how to respond to complaints to Comicsgate, Gamergate and other far right groups within the art world about the alleged "banning" of nudity in art by college students and the so-called "woke mob". Us "wokes" do accept, even love, any forms of nudity in art, games, comics and other mediums. The Gators only want their kind of nudity in any medium, which is basically just impossible beauty standards set by them. Seeing their negative overreaction this year to how sex and nudity are depicted in games like Baldur's Gate, exposes more of their hypocrisy on this issue. As with the nudity in artwork such what's showcased in your video here.

    • @vsauce4678
      @vsauce4678 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Nudity vs sexualization of children are different things. Balenciaga having a whole line about Panda, eyes one of the most disturbing things you'll ever have to read about, and a school book having an actual diagram of a penis or vagina are massively different to the point of being near opposites. Now I'm sure you'll defend pandas as being cute animals they are. But the meaning is what matters. Just like having basically pornography especially fetish content in schools is psychotic. But idk plenty of bad parents are grooming their children to be gay or whatever their little leftist ideology trophy they want. As no 5 year old or really any 30 year old knows they want to be non binary. It's a fake term made up for mentally ill and lonely people to avoid the topic of their issues and potential sadness. I feel sad that we have no way to help people like this as I'm sure most is from chemical imbalances and cases of childhood abuse. So leaving everything to parents isn't an answer either. But adding fetishes earlier to an already mentally ill people is a horrid idea.

    • @finnb-anarchy
      @finnb-anarchy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Trans people aren't a fetish. Btw I'm a 24 year old non binary person soooo hello. Dunno if you've ever spoken to a trans person but we exist and always will. Also being gay is natural for almost every animal on the planet, humans included :)

    • @JoyfulNerd400
      @JoyfulNerd400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vsauce4678i knew I was different when I was 3, and I knew I was a boy when I was 6, when all other children learn what sex, gender expression and the likes actually are. I wasn’t born a boy, but I knew I belonged in the body of one. I didn’t have a computer then. Or a phone. I also knew I was always into men, since I became sexual in my youth I was always attracted to them, never women. So I knew I was a gay man, always. Nobody taught me to be. My depression came from people like YOU. Who make us seem like we’re delusional, and infantilise us. You don’t belong here on the channel, this is a video of acceptance. Not hate. Your life is full of hatred and ignorance. In your case, it’s not bliss.

    • @Nylon_riot
      @Nylon_riot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can't even watch a video about art without feminists making it about them.
      The only people involved in gamergate are the ugly women still talking about it. This is all your show. How many reasons have you made up about what it is about now?
      And yes, there are high beauty standards, just like they have high athletic standards.
      Feminists are 4s demanding to be treated like Victoria Secret models while expecting men to hit every target.
      You hypocrites complain about racists but when it comes to your own leaders you turn a blind eye.
      Kinsey was a baby raper.
      The Suffragettes were bored elitist, racist terrorists. They didn't want to lower themselves to poor womens work. Their actions affected the lower classes so badly they had to sue the racist elitists. The Suffragettes won with the backing of Capitalistic men.
      Here bored elite women are still making life difficult for the working class with your virtue signaling luxury activism.
      They lie to you about the 1950s. It was when the technogical drive of WW2 replaced the help for the middle class with appliances. Much to the chagrin of the Cheuvanists, they were bad at it because they didn't know and created a series of food poisonings and accidents from unregulated equipment.
      The middle class wasn't unhappy running the house, they were unhappy from doing the helps work. The 50s was the end of traditional households and changed to the consumer driven environment that is still occurring now.
      Other nonsense lefty propaganda is that the third class was locked up on the Titanic. Never happened.
      I can do this all day.

    • @Nylon_riot
      @Nylon_riot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@finnb-anarchyAny male who "trans" after 40 has autogynophulia, they get off by people looking at them dressed as women.
      I love the cognitive dissonance. If a man wants big boots in a video game, it's bad. But if a man wears oversexualized female body parts to be observed, that is OK.
      Liberalism,, is a religion. I am a liberal. You are in a cult.
      It is Quaker Dogma. "God is in everyone " or the "Society of Friends,"
      Also kicked out of England for being insufferable religious extremists. America's first evangelicals.
      "What is right is right, eve if everyone is against it, what is wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it" ~ William Penn
      Faith in God was replaced with faith in institutions.
      You think you have higher moral standards, but it was given to you by The Extreme Protestants.
      Freedom of Religion, was started by a Quaker woman in England, if you guys weren't the actual misogynist and actually held women up, that fact would be promoted.
      Liberalism is about consent, not equity, and it falls in the center. The far right are anarchists. Liberal and Libertarian both begin with liber or Libre which is Freedom in Latin.
      Anything collectivist is ideologically contradictory. That means the nazis, the socialists are still all yours, which is why you obsess about identity.
      Because calling someone an anarchist isn't the same bite.

  • @bethbenedek6971
    @bethbenedek6971 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

  • @TheStorytellerWolf
    @TheStorytellerWolf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know you said you didn’t find the profundity you were looking for when you discovered Lucian didn’t have an intention beyond portraying what would be considered unconventional forms, but I think the lack of intention is in itself profound.
    Body positivity is about acceptance at the end of the day, the goal is for all bodies to be “normal”, for them to be perceived without pretense or baggage or expectation, and this video is a great step in that direction.

  • @curiositycloset2359
    @curiositycloset2359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hmm seen all of these. Just after he died they did a retrospective.

  • @cjwooper
    @cjwooper 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I find the humor in him saying his work is not s3xual when his grand father was Sigmund Freud.

  • @jacodelangevandyk
    @jacodelangevandyk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you

  • @user-do2qh9be9g
    @user-do2qh9be9g 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I often love your commentary about artists and their work. Painting is often only about painting. Does this this make it merely a craft? Not necessarily, it is up to those who view it to espouse it as art. I think it was Richard Diebenkorn who once said "calling yourself an artist is like a priest calling himself a saint." Painting is often just pigment, medium, application and composition. Lucien Freud is an artist!

  • @fablecouvrette5334
    @fablecouvrette5334 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More and more as an artist I'm drawn to a practice of painting from life, without intentional meaning. I used to think hard about what my work says, the message, the symbolism, the place it occupies in doscourse- but I've come to trust that when I choose references that simply fascinate me, and get them onto canvas or board or paper by whatever method fascinates me, my philosophy will come out in the process, and be provocative on its own. I write fantasy, but really nothing is more fantastical than observation of what's right in front of us. And this is a practice of Buddhist mindfulness as well, and I think of anarchism. The ultimate secrets of the universe are right in front of you in the pebbles under your feet and leaf shifting in the wind- the path to political liberation is to empower the people you know. The revolutionary leader who will change the world is the person you cross paths with on the sidewalk on your way to work, the mandate of heaven is in you, and the kid crying on the bus, and the tired nurse, and the driver, and the path to enlightenment is the one you are *walking*.
    Forget what you paint, it only matters that you paint.

  • @paulmuxfeldt6297
    @paulmuxfeldt6297 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your videos!

  • @wwaxwork
    @wwaxwork 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    As a plus sized woman, very much the size Sue was when painted, it's lovely to see a body that moves and looks like mine captured in art, I found all the images he painted quiet wonderful.. I find your reaction to the images as being a statement on the erotic assumptions of nudes interesting, that because you and others didn't find the images attractive that meant it was a commentary in it's own right. I get that a lot of men and women aren't aroused by them, but I've been obese my whole life and never had trouble finding men that were attracted and aroused by me. Hell I've been married 15 years and my husband still gives every sign that he finds me attractive. Maybe he's been faking for 15 years. There were comments in your video that were dismissive of body positivity as if it wasn't needed and yet you missed the point of what the movement is about. Somehow Sue being obese in those images removed her sexuality and sexual nature from the images, you made her lesser because you weren't aroused by her, you didn't see her fully as a human woman with desires and hell with people that might just be attracted to her. I'm not expecting you to pretend you were aroused or found the images arousing, preferences are preferences and that's perfectly OK. But assuming your preferences are everyones preferences is a slippery slope to dehumanising a whole lot of people for a whole lot of reasons.

    • @miket6105
      @miket6105 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Excellent comment!

    • @kwiiin_
      @kwiiin_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hm, I thought about this, and I have to disagree. I'm also a fat woman, have been all my life, and am bisexual. Seeing the paintings, any painting he did with obese people, made me appreciate Lucien's honesty so much. There are not meant to be sexual, just like drawing nude people in class is not sexual. Sexual connotation needs, if you ask me, an undertone: dim lighting, lingerie, wet skin, object shaped like vulvas and penisses, people grabbing skin and another. None of his paintings depict that, not even the one he showed by another painted with this thin naked girl, although she looks at the viewer, almost as if expecting something. Instead, we see in Sue's case a woman being comfortable and just relaxing. She doesn't want to be attractive, she wants to be honest. The thin girl by another painter looks at you, not challenging- wants to be observed. Sue does not. This self-awareness is something most people lack (being honest to onesself) and I loved the confidence of each person he painted.
      I don't think there was a dehumanizing aspect to his commentary. Fat people are sexual and sexy, just like any other person, but the way you portray them matters. Sue has been depicted on a couch, holding her breast (which is comfortable) and sleeping/dozing. She cares zero for you finding her erotic, or not. I don't think any of these paintings were erotic, at all, I simply enjoy looking at different people in correct and honest portrayal of them.

  • @js-di6ql
    @js-di6ql 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent.

  • @user333-us4qz
    @user333-us4qz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing ✨

  • @MorriganNoel
    @MorriganNoel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video ❤

    • @TheCanvasArtHistory
      @TheCanvasArtHistory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!! I’m super happy you liked it!

  • @Hoberpopkin
    @Hoberpopkin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    these nudes are gorgeous. The honesty aside, they're also a reminder of how beautiful people's bodies are at all sizes and ages

  • @CCM378
    @CCM378 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video 😊

  • @sunnyquinn3888
    @sunnyquinn3888 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Boozing AND drinking?! My, you were quite the wild one, Ms. Tilly!

  • @markbarrera6807
    @markbarrera6807 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we're uptight nowadays too only in different ways. wonderful work.

  • @pinkdogroslyn8832
    @pinkdogroslyn8832 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    humans are absolutely gorgeous. in all shapes and forms, humans are simply gorgeous.

  • @ghostoflazlo
    @ghostoflazlo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "So much"
    I love her ❤

  • @j14ne
    @j14ne 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    slayy

  • @avosmash2121
    @avosmash2121 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This artist reminds me of that one classic era Simpsons episode where Marge does a giant nude of Mr Burns, depicting him as is, just a regular physically imperfect old man. And everyone is astounded and shocked and yet Mr Burns, a selfish, vainly shallow, nearly more or less a symbol of cartoonish greed and evil, is moved by the work. He is not sure HOW he feels. But he says he does NOT hate it and he is affected by it's powerful honesty. It wasn't a joke but, it was an a short but honest scene with a character showing just a tiniest bit of their vulnerable humanity. I gotta wonder if the work of this artist or someone similar helped inspire such a moment.