Caleb has aspergers in the sense that he doesn't really care for things and has lack of empathy, so the empathetic mindset isn't too realistic but the rest is quite true 👍
@@miker1640 really says a lot when someone that stated he struggles to empathise sees Chris as a human being, and respects his feelings and wishes from a totally different place, doesn't it? We love oompa
Exactly what I’ve been saying, he’s an awesome TH-camr, comes off as someone who wouldn’t at first because of some edgy jokes or humor but after you watch his videos you’ll see it’s just edgy humor and he cares for others
@@juansostre456 they mean adopting the stereotypical twitter user mentality of being easily offended, and canceling anyone who disagrees with them ruining the person being cancelled’s life and reputation.
literally chris being themselves does not affect anyone but THEMSELVES. Why is everyone so obsessed with being mean to anyone that’s different than the “normal”. Thanks oompa for being so chill
His inability to be honest with his wife. It definitely affected her negatively. You can support someone coming out and still acknowledge the harm they caused to their loved ones by not being honest with them in the first place.
@@randimarsh3596that’s true, he should’ve told her sooner, but you also have to think about how theres probably no way to tell her without affecting her negatively. no matter how he says it, he had to
@@louis_partridge_ I would agree my point was the statement it doesn't affect anyone isn't true. There is no reason to hate on them but pointing out that people were hurt by their decision isn't the same as hating on them.
But Chris would do it to Jimmy. Remember that Chris refused to be in videos unless Karl was there. Doesn't sound like the best friend ever. Sounds like he likes Karl alot more than Jimmy.
@@vergil8833 Or maybe they just don't feel very comfortable on camera in front of tens to hundreds of millions of people without being with someone they either more relate to or just are generally more comfortable when around or with, especially with recently.
@@Literally_a_Moth I don’t think that’s how Sunny views him I think it’s how he believes most viewers see him which I think is correct. Most viewers are just watching a video they aren’t involved in the people in the videos’ lives in any way.
Such a nice breath of fresh air watching this video. The way you talk about things in a "who cares" manner while still portraying your honest opinion with empathy and humanity really makes me genuinely happy. Thank you man
same thing if you ask trans ppl "what makes you think to become male/female?" They"ll answer "who cares , why u cares" they even don't know what gender is truly fact humanity already fallen
Crazy how this situation that Jimmy is apparently "stuck" in is only possible due to the internet saying that its a situation in the first place. Like, if we all actually treated Chris like he's a human being and not an asset to a brand, then there would be no situation 😂
That’s no the point. And also that’s exactly what Jimmy is doing. It’s the fans that is the problem. Most people can’t see Chris the same way and enjoy his energy the same, and therefore views will go down. You stupid fuck.
Because most people, including you mostly see the brand part of Chris. To claim otherwise, would means you know him personally, and know what he's like behind camera. I find it kinda moronic to talk about "Chris" like we know his human part, when most of what ever see has been edited/cut/scripted as entertaining as possible in a video format.
@@JohnesRoladias if you want to be treat like a human then act like one accept your gender roles and love yourself there’s no place for he/him/she/her/why/te
What i think people heavily miss with Jimmy is that hes adjusting to the change too.. Jimmy now has to get used to a completely different dynamic with his friend after years of being seen the one way. Jimmy is probably just adjusting to things and doesnt want to say anything offensive. Its pretty common
maybe jimmy just has a rock-solid bond with chris and his gender doesn't change that or any of the fun they have together. just a thought speaking from experience
@@fullorganicalchemyst2715 Im not saying their bond and activities have changed, but Jimmy still shouldnt be looked at horribly for just getting used to a change
Definitely. I think the hate towards Chris is bad, but I think it's just as delusional to think Jimmy won't have a hard time adjusting. It's his long time friend who he's seen his whole life with a totally different body, voice, and other features.
@@MMMForShort they're obviously making the point to try calling Chris's transformation bad but I agree as a ally, it just makes sense given how little people support it sadly. Not to mention for her it probably felt like a huge shift. That doesnt change anything tho. U cant get mad at them and claim they're wrong bc their wife cant accept them. Its just a casualty I guess.
@@ieatbeans9621 How would Chris taking HRT affect his parental abilities. And would you be saying it would affect his ex-wife if they had just divorced?
@@atomic_bear His child would be without a strong father figure leading down a path that's good or bad depending on how you see it, with the current Chris his child would most likely end up like Chris.
It doesn’t sit right with me that sunny focused almost entirely on how their gender expression/transition could affect MrBeast’s brand rather than focusing on the online discourse and their personal journey on its own, they’re more than an accessory for Jimmy, they’re a person
I just wanna answer what Oompa asked about the HRT; HRT does change your facial and bone structure SLIIIGHTLY, moreso if you begin it early as it's meant to push you through essentially a second puberty. A lot of the work that made Chris look so different is also makeup, taking better care of himself with hygiene and stuff like that, stuff men generally ignore or care for casually. It's a lot of both, and if you have some kind of advisor as you're starting up transition (which is something that is lifelong) you'll get a lot of helpful tips for things like that. My daughter's voice coach always gave her lots of fashion tips and ways to accentuate specific features to generally look prettier, which is basic makeup stuff.
HRT cannot change bone structure. its simply body fat redistribution. if it could actually change bone structure i would be able to reach my god damned fruity pebbles on top of the fridge
Hate is definitely taught. I remember being a kid, when I saw a trans adult or drag queen I didn't think about anything except what kind of person they were (and they honestly seem magical as a kid, like seeing a unicorn lol). People don't have to make everything political! Just...live
I wouldn't say hate is natural like the people above me are saying (children definitely have an innocence and carelessness, if you will, that allows them to see past trivial things that teens and adults unnecessarily add importance to, like race), but it's definitely natural to have negative reactions to unfamiliar things or things that make us uncomfortable. We can see it in videos like the one where kids are forced to sit down with drag queens in ridiculous outfits; they're visibly uncomfortable, and arguably scared.
his channel is not gonna die 😭 look at all the youtubers who have done actual bad stuff and are still thriving. this won’t effect his career in the slightest and even if it does i’m pretty sure most people who agree that a long lasting friendship like theirs is more important that a career that he’s alr made millions from. even if it does die he’s staying rich and staying a true friend.
at first I thought you were talking about SunnyV2 and I was like "yeah, unfortunately that's probably gonna turn out to be the case...", although I really do hope Sunny's career is more or less over with this video. As for Mr. Beast/Chris, they've got nothing but green pastures ahead I'm sure!
this may just be me, but as a person who has stopped watching mrbeast because of the recent changes I beg to differ. I personally dont think gender changing is normal but idk he can do what he wants to, but I wont be watching mrbeast just to support chris's transition if his whole humor is gone ( and yes, chris's humor IS what fueled the channel this far in terms of entertainment value)
@@ae1327 you underestimate the potential backlash just because your beliefs are different and you dont have the imagination or brain power to realise that a good lot of people arent like you
as someone who has no father figure, you can live a happy and healthy childhood without no father figure. its fucking stupid how people think you NEED a father figure in order to have a happy childhood.
EXACTLY. WHY IS THIS SUCH A CONTROVERSY! legit let them be happy. Jimmy isn’t just using Chris for content. People seem to forget that they have been friends since they were kids. You support friends! You can’t compare a channel on TH-cam dying to someone’s happiness. It’s always worth it. ❤
It's called being a fence sitter... and it's easy to take a stance on something like this, it's like saying murder is bad or pineapple on pizza is an abomination
I think we should care about the moral degradation of society. Things tend to get really bad when we don't care and I would prefer it if millions didn't get "graped" and murdered in the fall of the cities. I'm not in a city so I can easily say I don't care either, the effects will only be seen in local store prices, but I do care because I think it is bad to give evil people the collapse they dream of. The children and innocent are the ones who suffer when society collapses. Anyone with moral integrity should care about that. And yes. A man breaking apart his family in order to publicly display his fetishes is moral degradation. We haven't seen the effects of a dying society this bad since the Weimar Republic. What happend after the Weimar Republic?
I mean TBH. While I don't understand the whole trans thing. This guy seems to be the best representation of how people should be just in general. He's not forcing himself down people's throats he's just being himself. Herself? Frick. They have my support.
For real bro. Man is just trying to make his limited time on earth the best it can be for himself, it doesnt hurt anyone and if it means that he is happy then let the man be.
This sunnyv2 video was calling Chris a nightmare for his gender identity. Not his predatory behavior. It’s not okay to come back after the fact and say that he was right and had a point when the situation is entirely different.
i really do find it ridiculously sad that someone's personal life is being analyzed based on how much it can affect a channel's views. rather than just ignoring it or accepting it. it's so divisive and weird.
8:27 I think what happened with this reaction was that Jimmy couldn't see the picture well how Chris was holding it, and he probably thought it was fan art of him. Then, when he couldn't discern any defining details from the angle, there was probably a camera preview in front of him. He looked at that, and that was his genuine reaction. It looks forced, but I don't think it was. The nice shirt thing is definitely just a bit.
The end has me truly speechless, the idea Chris owes Jimmy for his success and therefore it’s selfish for him to transition??! Actually a chronically online take, as if social blade stats are Loren important than someone’s actual life
I totaly agree with you oomp, calling Chris a character is wrong in so many levels, his whole take is "this is bad for business" actual sociopathic take
this! i have loved sunny forever, but this was just truly an L take on his part. chris is a goddamn person who has made a huge step towards what they believes is their life's happiness. "this could be bad for business"? then maybe we should ask why that is and why so many people are being literally transphobic on the internet instead of virtually condemning chris for their decision in improving the happiness of their own life that affects fucking no one but themselves.
@@fullorganicalchemyst2715 "a good person" think of his poor kid thats got a mentally unstable dad playing dress up running around in a dress and makeup thanks god that the kids mother dont want nothing to do with this freak
@@fullorganicalchemyst2715 not indulging the delusions of the mentally ill isn't "transphobic". Do you even know what "phobia" means? No one is afraid of Trans people. We have an issue with people like you affirming mental illness that doesn't help anyone. They have a 40+% self cancelation rate pre and post transition, it doesn't make them happier. If you folks bothered to do a tiny bit of research you'd know that. But you don't care about the truth, you only care about virtue signaling on the internet and pretending to care. 🤷♂️ it stings because it's the truth.
i hope Chris has enough strength to pull through this shit storm and also, like do people really think that Chris just came one day wearing a dress and didn't discuss the public approach with Jimmy? Like they are two adult people, ofc they did. Also the awkwardness during a stream is due to massive hate in the chat, everyone was hurt, not awkward.
@@RAM-ft3gk This is why your mother doesn't love you, and why she's so incredibly disappointed she devoted any of her life to you. Genuinely such a disappointment, I'm not sure how you live with yourself.
@@Mystique022 His opinion was hoping someone doesn't "pull through". If my child ever said that I would be so so disappointed and wonder what I did wrong for him to turn out like that.
Chris is Jimmy's first subscriber and has been by his side forever. He knows Chris isn't some vassal of his brand, and they've been great friends for absolutely ages so i'm sure he's known about this a lot longer than we have. It clearly doesn't matter to him, and he clearly isn't going to 'do' anything about the situation - there is no situation. Nothing needs to change, all that happened is that someone made an informed decision about their lives. Really sad to see some people's shitty takes on something that doesn't even matter. Good video oomp 👍
I like that even a neutral video doesnt satisfy bigots now. TH-camrs dont know it but they're culling their degenerate fans anytime they give a take at all, because it isnt deranged and super anti LGBTQ
This video is literally the example of “making mountains out of mole hills” it’s not that big of a deal. If anything it says more about Sunny by him calling Chris a “character”
I'M GONNA SAY THIS ON EVERY VID THAT TALKS ABOUT THIS ISSUE: The live stream "awkwardness was just MrBeast being upset by the fact the entire live chat was making fun of Chris
It's sad that he was finally comfortable to come out about this and the reaction he got is sad. I'm so happy jimmy is being so supportive and responding the way he has.
sorry but the way sunnyv2/people were talking about that livestream is wild 😭 writing so much fanfiction and for what? i swear they just look like they’re opening stuff and having a good time. chris didn’t say anything about him being a woman, he was showing him fanart made by a fan that depicted him as a woman. and mr beast didn’t look weirded out at all like… 😭 just feels ridiculous that folks are trying to spin a negative narrative when they don’t know these people personally. makes for entertaining fanfic but stops at that.
Ikr? Acting as if it was super strange that there were awkward silences in a livestream with a bunch of people that usually arent live, they clearly are more accustomed to edited videos. Its like they expect everyone to be an expert entertainer all the time or something
I think what Sunny is saying is that people are going to be annoyed no matter what direction MrBeast goes in, which would be a source of frustration for him. So the circumstances can become a “nightmare” for him. Not with Chris per se. But obviously it’s not a hard decision for MrBeast to support Chris since they’ve been friends their whole lives.
Its also kinda dodgy trying to say stuff about sencetive shit, you'll have to be very good saying stuff that would not offend anyone and Just say that People have mixed opinions about this
@@atch300 I’m a trans man and just like with all types of groups of people, there are ALWAYS going to be people who get offended over the smallest things. I think sometimes it seems like more people do it in the lgbt community because it’s more taboo. But like soooo many Christian’s will flip out and then at the same time try to tell you you are going to hell. But that’s not all Christian’s. They are usually just the loudest so get the most attention. But honestly, you will find wayyyy more people in the lgbt community who don’t hold people to crazy expectations. Most people just want equal rights and to just live their lives. I think as long as people aren’t purposefully being assholes then they shouldn’t be “cancelled” for something they don’t know about or even don’t agree with. If people in any community don’t open up for hard conversations then everyone will keep being misunderstood. Anyways, I hope the “bad eggs” who try to cancel someone immediately and don’t give chances for growth don’t ruin it for all of the lgbt community. Just like I’m sure most Christian’s don’t want the crazy ones that yell at people that they are going to hell don’t want that to ruin it for them all. ✌️
That's not at all what he's saying, and I'm feeling like maybe you didn't pay close attention. He very directly says Chris will have to quit making videos with Jimmy if Jimmy wants to remain financially successful
You know, the biggest difference between the photos that I noticed was how miserable he looked in the old photo and how happy and excited he looks in the new one. Y'all some a**holes for not wanting Chris to be happy LMAO 😂. Y'all gonna have to forgive me for this one in light of recent news. - 7-26-24
It's not that we don't want him to be happy, it's honestly the opposite. It's crazy in general that a solution for a mental illness is putting yourself in the mental and physical torture that is a second puberty and when it's over having to be the opposite gender permanently even though what you really needed was just some good friends and a good therapist.
Plus his kid is gonna be bullied so hard and who knows Chris might encourage him to do what he did and change his life permanently just because he was sad.
Who knows if Chris is really even happy? He could be contemplating suicide right now which is unsurprisingly very common with Trans people and we would have no idea.
@@eliasrodriguez1419 gender dysphoria is a real disorder. Maybe hormone therapy isn't ALWAYS the solution. But I think he's lived long enough in his body to know what he wants to do. And besides HRT is way better than killing himself and depriving every one that cares about him his existence. Also, it's ppl like you who have no possible idea what he's actually going through that make trans ppl commit suicide. Maybe you should think about how your words can affect ppl. When you have millions of ppl online telling you you're a bad dad and person because you're seeking help it drives you to a very dark place.
@@ikeaira8701 He didn't say a scenario where Chris would try to fuck over Jimmy. He was saying scenarioes that Chris would fuck over Jimmy. Chris would never try to intentionally fuck Jimmy over but Chris doesn't realize that by doing what he's been doing it is fucking over Jimmy.
@@maxvasquez2529 that’s not really what skudson is saying. Also, I find it weird people care so much about Chris’ feelings but not the wife and kid he abandoned
plus i don’t think he abandoned his family,him and his wife probably had a talk about what chris was going through and they decided it was best to separate so that way he could be himself,it would be worse if they stayed together and got in arguments in front of there children
I really thought people would be supportive of chris. People can get cancelled for saying something vaguely transphobic and these people are just straight up saying he abandoned his kid by transitioning.
I can understand that but if he is truly transitioning and becomes a female or another gender, would that get rid of a fatherfigure in his life? its a genuine question, and im not saying Chris isn't a parent, but father figures are male parental figures, please answer this question if you know because I would like too as well
I think a lot of the people that are angry about this have projected themselves on Chris in an extremely unhealthy way and are thinking "I wouldn't do this so they shouldn't do this"
100%, People are saying it was a choice, because for them it would be a choice. I’m a transgender man, and I first came out when I was 13, it’s been 3 years now and guess who hasn’t changed since they were born? THIS GUY! I also think it’s so silly people are saying they left their family. Like bro they probably weren’t in a good marriage and both Chris and their wife have been suffering in silence. Hope their still in their child’s life though. Glad they can finally be at peace and just live like themselves 😌
@@RAM-ft3gk as if you are? He made a good point. In fact, he just perfectly described a term in psychology known as "Freudian Projection" Wanna know something funny? Adolf Hitler did this a lot, being a racist and all that. In fact, Freudian Projection is seen most often in racists, sexists, and homophobics. And I don't mean the stupid Twitter idea of racism, where if you're white you're automatically racist. I mean actual bigotry, the kind that isn't restricted in any group of people
As a trans person who has been a long time fan of Oompa, I just want to say thank you, thank you for addressing it in such a casual and “who cares” manner, not escalating the situation more then it already has been. Love you Oompa, and all my love to Chris too, she deserves it :(
it honestly breaks my heart that people are treating her and Jimmy this way. blaming her for his downfall (that hasn't happened 4 months later btw) is so shitty. like she's literally done nothing but be out to the world to warrant this hate. and the crap they're saying about how she's ripped her family apart as if they know what's going on drives me up a wall. I GUARANTEE their son is handling her transition waaayy better than the adults attacking her online. I love the content Sunny makes, but this one was just NOT it and it's SO disappointing.
10:59 exactly BRUH 💀 the fact that sunny said that mr beast was “forced” to be accepting of chris is crazy…you’re right. they’re friends and have been since they were kids. ofc mr beast would support him! like, hello…?
@@leonrussell9607 he's not forced to support in any way. if his beliefs don't align with Chris's then he could've put out a statement on why Chris was leaving the group & etc. As Rook mentioned, people as big as mr beast aren't afraid of getting cancelled.
@@aceofthewest5884 Agreed. It’s not his skin either if he’s chemically changing his appearance and mentality using HRT. I could really care less that he is becoming trans, but it annoys me that he has saying that it is ok in front of a young, impresionable audience. Im tired of people getting brainwashed by the media, and wish men could just embrace masculinity.
@@ironik8599 it is ok. There have been people that fall outside of gender roles since gender roles were born. Masculinity is a social idea that only means anything because we give it meaning. Just because you care about it doesn’t mean everybody else does. Your lifestyle matters not to anyone else. Trans kids face enough discrimination, with some of the highest suicide rates of any group. The percentage of people who regret transitioning is less than 1%. Kids are not “brainwashed” into being trans. There’s a reason why the process of transitioning is rigorous and lengthy.
im trans- thanks for sorta talking about this oompa! also something im seeing is that no one realizes that it takes a really long time to actually start HRT- you have to jump through lots of hurdles and have notes from therapists. Also Jimmy has probably known about this for awhile, I'm assuming he didn't find out the same day we did
So, estrogen/hormone replacement therapy (ert/hrt) and/or testosterone suppressant (T blockers) for mtf and gnc people, can give a person more "feminine" secondary sex characteristics. Such as: softer skin, a decrease in muscle mass, breast growth, fat redistribution (hips, legs, and chest), and less body hair growth/balding patterns. These changes can start take place within 3 to 6 months and may take 2 to 3 years for these changes to reach their full extent, but it depends on the person and the dosage. Please reply with any questions u have, stay happy and healthy!
HATE IS A FUCKING EMOTION RETARD A HUMAN GENETIC HORMONE EMOTION THING... its in fucking human nature to bully the smaller kid as a child and to love women and be the gender u are at birth... why are we trying to normalize this shit for about 5% of the population and put the other 95% of the populations careers on the line and if they say the wrong thing they lose their job and get shunned. i wouldnt mind this LGBT shit if 1 people werent so sensitive, 2 they let people have their own opinions on the subject, 3 kids shouldnt be taught this shit as it can fuck up their life and 4 it shouldnt have a month, or festivals where companies are forced into doing something for it and if they are not they get in shit
fun fact: i find more hate comments in youtube than the hate comments in twitter, twitter have more supportive comments. probably because youtube is very easily accessible by kids (that are edgy and are a 5th grader) more than twitter in this situation.
Honestly I lost all respect for Sunnyv2 after this. Just let homie live the life they want, why would that be a nightmare for their best pals?? Jimmy clearly cares a lot about them and wants what’s best for Chris. This dude needs to pull his head out of his butt. Thank you Oompa for being so chill with you commentary, you are a real one 🙌
What about his wife and kid? His kid is going to grow up fatherless because his father woke up one day and decided to get his nails done. He’s causing a life time of mental confusion and distress for his child, but we should let people live free of criticism, right? No body is actually stopping him from making these illogical decisions, they’re just criticizing him. When you do dumb things you deserve criticism.
@@manicdoom i can tell you are not educated on this man, dont embarrass yourself anymore, people dont just wake up one day and throw a family away, most of this happened behind the scenes, you can never tell when things like this happen especially to popular personalities
@@manicdoom also chris seems like an amazing parent and the whole dynamic of patriarchy and hetero relationships are so outdated and limiting, i guess it just takes people a bit to understand because of how much homophobia and transphobia is rooted, i implore you to go and study these things more and not just spew back the opinions that you took brain-washingly from people who do not understand this situation and are driven from hate. I know it is hard but please consider
He didn’t leave his kid and he split from his wife on good terms. The same people who are screaming about this probably couldn’t even tell you what his sons name is. If a cis couple divorces it’s every other Tuesday but apparently this is a meltdown
The idea that Jimmy might prioritize the feelings of some jackasses on the internet he doesn't know as opposed to the feelings of one of his closest friends in his personal life is the kind of opinion that only greedy bigots will take. Jimmy is probably completely fine with losing viewers that would choose not to watch his videos just because of Chris. Anyone that stops watching over that wasn't a real fan of his channel anyway, and he probably knows that and is okay with that. Jimmy has shown multiple times that his priorities don't lie in viewer counts and amassing money for himself.
rephrasing the video you reacted to: "Chris should continue to front a character for the brand he built with his friends despite not being that person because it'll upset some people on twitter if he doesn't. :(" big agree. let Chris do what is right for them and be themself.
Norway here, As a literate person and a wildly dominant straight bodybuilding male; realitycheck the toxic masculinity😂 Its unreal that people are commenting over other peoples choice! Besides that, the messages from Chris to haters are SPOT ON! Oompas angle in this is really cool! Ta Vare!🇳🇴🇺🇦
It's honestly quite impressive how incredibly thick-skulled people can be. Like, why do you even care? It's Chris' life, and they are entitled to make whatever decisions they may please with their own life and body. How people can have these, not even luke-warm, but freezing cold iq opinions, is baffling.
As a trans person can we have more mindsets like oompa where we’re just happy other people are happy and minding our business? Id love that more pls bc it creates such a positive environment of open mindedness and care
The fact that so many ppl don’t care about an actual trauma based mental disorder, and have been indoctrinated to say who cares let him be happy is so sad… and these same ppl like to pretend they care about mental health.
I listen to sunny's videos on the background from time to time, ive known that he wasnt a real "centrist" with a lot of his takes being pretty wild sometimes. But he always hides behind reading random people's comments to avoid giving his clear opinion, just pay attention to most of his videos on controversial topics and this becomes cristal clear. This time he just went overboard, no idea how he thought people would react to this tbh.
@@bogdanradovic671 not when the content that he puts out is supposed to be informational rather than giving opinions like Oompa who’s actually commentating. If he’s a commentary channel, go ahead, say whatever you want, but you can’t just hide behind other people’s opinions while still trying to make it seem like you’re not stating your own when his video clearly does that.
@@sinfin7154 just cause the majority of his content is only informational doesn't mean he cant give his take on the situation. And if he didnt "hide behind other ppls opinions" he would get cancelled in an instant because apparently free speech isnt a thing lol
@@sinfin7154 I think people view him as biased because of his tone, but it has nothing to do with the specific topic at hand. He does it in all his videos and I wouldn’t be surprised if it is from some sort of accent. He wasn’t extremely biased. He didn’t outright say Chris transitioning was bad for Chris personally. He’s making the argument that Chris didn’t consider the ramifications of his actions on his loved ones. He didn’t consider how it would distance Mr. Beast’s audience. In a way it is a bit narcissistic of Chris to not consider this. He put his feelings over his wife’s, who didn’t express support for him likely due to fears of backlash (she’s also conservative Christian.)
@@bogdanradovic671 like SinFin said, the problem is hiding opinion inside an "unbiased" take, he clearly showed more from the minority that is against Chris without balancing it with opposing takes or acknowledging it. This is an issue when you have so many people putting you on a pedestal as a source of filtered but balanced information, while not outright saying that this is a byproduct of your own ideas and prejudices. These things need to be called out
Sunny thinks you should just toss your friends to the side when they differ from you or you think they might ruin your monetary value 😂 So sad. Moral compass is off. Friends change. That’s ok. You either stick by them or you don’t. How someone lives their life or dresses doesn’t hurt you directly unless you have low emotional intelligence and are bothered by everything indirect under the sun. I genuinely feel bad for judgy people or creators because it must be annoying to be annoyed by stuff that doesn’t matter constantly.
Simply saying that the situation could potentially negatively affect the Mr Beast brand is not transphobia. Mr Beast, in the past, has fired people because their personality dynamic in the group was no longer required. Why is this any different? If one individual is affecting the revenue of your business, which risks the lively hoods of everyone else that works for the business, would it not be adventitious to remove said individual? Now, I'm not saying this is the case with Mr Beast, or am I saying that SunnyV2 had an accurate take on the situation. But none of what he said constitutes a phobia against trans people.
Idk why everyone is so concerned with his marriage and family when his ex wife has made it clear she’s fully supporting Chris in living his truth. They can still be good coparents. I don’t get why people care so much, just like Oompa said.
I just love oompa so much he has never said anything that upsets me and it just makes me realise being alive is worth it if there is more people like oompa
Putting aside the transphobia...it's wild to me that Sunny chose to make the video's premise as if Chris is a character on a fictional show he thinks is being written badly. The way Sunny is framing it is like the showrunners of the Mr. Beast show are writing Chris to be less relatable and it's gonna hurt the ratings. These are real people. Chris is a real person, and Mr Beast is his real friend. I would hope Jimmy would choose to support his friend over possible backlash from fans over their transition. Also strong vs weak men I feel has been misconstrued by conservatives. Strong doesn't mean traditionally masculine, it doesn't mean "manly" in the modern sense. It doesn't even mean being physically strong, lots of great leaders (men and women and GNC) were physically not very threatening. Strong can be many things. Resilient, defiant, willing to stand up for yourself and others, etc. Being yourself in the face of a world that is not at all ready to accept you. I think of the people at Stonewall, LGBT+ people openly existing at a time when it was literally illegal to be queer. They would get arrested for just being visibly gay or dressing in drag. People wouldn't look at someone like Marsha P Johnson and call them strong. But she openly defied and fought cops when her existence was made illegal. That's strength. Personally, I think choosing to be GNC in front of millions of people facing constant scrutiny and threats and backlash is an incredibly strong thing to do. Chris is choosing to be themselves in public online while being called a liability, a predator, a bad father, and, depending on the state, being legally discriminated against and punished. It takes strength to do that.
Your statement at 3:00: "It's crazy this is a thing that people care about..." is the absolute truth. People go to such lengths to be homophobic or transphobic that it's absolutely ridiculous and need to understand and let people live the life they want to lead, why are you so bothered by what someone else does if you don't like it don't associate with them it's that simple, quit being a baby whining about someone being different and grow up.
Nice take, I disagree and agree with you. The thing is, a kid preferably should get a father figure, on top of that he's a boy. It is advised for a child to have a father figure. There needs to be a mother and a a father.
@@lGNITED As much as I agree a child does need a father figure, I think using him being trans as an excuse for him not having one is not a valid excuse for saying he can't be a father figure. I grew up without a father for most of my life and only knew him for maybe 5-6 years and I believe I turned out fine, gay but fine.
Why is everyone being so sad about “oh no Jimmy will lose his precious career 😢” When Chris is literally getting cyber bullied for being trans 😟 Also Jimmy can probably retire right now if he wanted to…
I feel that that stream was only an example of them trying to get used to Chris' change, They're still at an info-settling point. Just give it some time, the vibes WILL be restored.
@@juansostre456 idk why ur being hostile to non hostile comments? Like we don't know that. So either the joke was just bad or jimmy is getting adjusted , maybe hes getting adjusted to chris being fully you know , whatever youd wanna call Chris's new self on camera because theres some changes , maybe the joke was just ass, nobody knows. You arent jimmy. Speculate and stop assuming on behalf
@@juansostre456 and also being hostile to ppl who are still clearly allies just speculating something you think is objective will only cost you, it drives away trans and LGBTQ allies when ur overly sensitive to this point .
I do appreciate Caleb's easy going and confident individualism look on other people 👏 personally I find having strong opinions on everything to be exhausting
I feel like you should let other people f*ck up there own life without having any say in it, the world has already begun to collapse on its self so sit back, eat some popcorn, and enjoy the ride
I am glad to see Oompa view on this. More people need to take the "it's none of my business and its not hurting me so why should I care" perspective. I was disappointed that Sunny made the choice to profit off this topic instead of covering anything else. They also have provided an opportunity for people to spread more hate and misunderstanding.
"Yeah you know all that child labor in China and human rights violations in the middle east? Well it's none of my business and not hurting me so clearly I shouldn't care about it" - You, probably
"They just look like normal dudes with autism" *Shoulder Shrug* That one got me.
I felt seen, lol
I laughed out loud. It was pretty funny
oompa is so unintentionally funny omg
He’s not even wrong tho bc that’s how I and my whole friend group acts fr 💀
@@Chicken_Butt001 hey nice pfp
Oompa is proof that you can be a decent human being while not fully understanding
@@CosmicAli_TheObserver yeah and it’s perfectly okay to not understand, as long as ur respectful it’s all good 👍
@@CosmicAli_TheObserver not understanding is okk, as long as youre supportive and working to educate yourself
@@pacipwincess y??
@@robustanybody5138 why what?
L chris
Rare to find a TH-camr, that's fuckin' hilarious with no fucks given, but then has a logical and empathetic mind. Preach on Oompa.
Caleb has aspergers in the sense that he doesn't really care for things and has lack of empathy, so the empathetic mindset isn't too realistic but the rest is quite true 👍
@@miker1640 Yeah, maybe empathy was the wrong word... Got it! Now rephrased to 'Logical mind and isn't a cunt'.
@@miker1640 really says a lot when someone that stated he struggles to empathise sees Chris as a human being, and respects his feelings and wishes from a totally different place, doesn't it?
We love oompa
Exactly what I’ve been saying, he’s an awesome TH-camr, comes off as someone who wouldn’t at first because of some edgy jokes or humor but after you watch his videos you’ll see it’s just edgy humor and he cares for others
npc comment
Oompa is someone who actually understands that dark humor isn’t just being an asshole
I know right, I love that shit
Yea he really is the best
oompa is such a chill and real guy, be like oomp, dont be a twitter user
💯
Chris is a twitter user...
@@chrismclean4789 so is oompa
@@juansostre456 they mean adopting the stereotypical twitter user mentality of being easily offended, and canceling anyone who disagrees with them ruining the person being cancelled’s life and reputation.
@@ChristisKing0605 that makes no sense
literally chris being themselves does not affect anyone but THEMSELVES. Why is everyone so obsessed with being mean to anyone that’s different than the “normal”.
Thanks oompa for being so chill
His inability to be honest with his wife. It definitely affected her negatively. You can support someone coming out and still acknowledge the harm they caused to their loved ones by not being honest with them in the first place.
@@randimarsh3596that’s true, he should’ve told her sooner, but you also have to think about how theres probably no way to tell her without affecting her negatively. no matter how he says it, he had to
@@louis_partridge_ I would agree my point was the statement it doesn't affect anyone isn't true. There is no reason to hate on them but pointing out that people were hurt by their decision isn't the same as hating on them.
@@randimarsh3596 i agree, i should’ve clarified that it doesn’t affect anyone who isn’t directly related to chris.
@@louis_partridge_ look at that respectful discourse on social media. Who knew it was possible. Have a good one!
I’m just upset that people think Chris is just another financial benefit for jimmy. They are friends. Jimmy would never do that to his own friend.
But Chris would do it to Jimmy. Remember that Chris refused to be in videos unless Karl was there. Doesn't sound like the best friend ever. Sounds like he likes Karl alot more than Jimmy.
@@vergil8833 Or maybe they just don't feel very comfortable on camera in front of tens to hundreds of millions of people without being with someone they either more relate to or just are generally more comfortable when around or with, especially with recently.
Sunny views Chris as an object and not the human being he deserves to be seen as
@@vergil8833 and hes gonna take down the channel and youtube will crumble yea yea yea
@@Literally_a_Moth I don’t think that’s how Sunny views him I think it’s how he believes most viewers see him which I think is correct. Most viewers are just watching a video they aren’t involved in the people in the videos’ lives in any way.
I love oompa's "why the fuck should anyone give two shits" attitude
Idk but calling someone "zesty" is just the funniest to me 😅
i get called zesty. its funny. people should use it more often
@@LoneRottingCorpse It happens all the time on tiktok if you got the right fyp
bro frfr i was like wtf😅
It reminds me of an episode from the Simpsons where Nelson eats the used nicotine patches lmao
Chris likes boys
oompa is a genuine good person
Such a nice breath of fresh air watching this video. The way you talk about things in a "who cares" manner while still portraying your honest opinion with empathy and humanity really makes me genuinely happy. Thank you man
same thing if you ask trans ppl "what makes you think to become male/female?" They"ll answer "who cares , why u cares" they even don't know what gender is truly fact humanity already fallen
@@JohnesRoladias I don’t think you know what gender means bro. I also don’t think you’ve ever spoken to a trans person
@@JohnesRoladias bro read ur comment, ur the one who doesn't understand what gender is 💀
@@JohnesRoladias if humanity has fallen, it’s not because some people wanted to be trans lmao
@@fart63 so tell me whats the definition of gender hm?
Crazy how this situation that Jimmy is apparently "stuck" in is only possible due to the internet saying that its a situation in the first place. Like, if we all actually treated Chris like he's a human being and not an asset to a brand, then there would be no situation 😂
That’s no the point. And also that’s exactly what Jimmy is doing. It’s the fans that is the problem. Most people can’t see Chris the same way and enjoy his energy the same, and therefore views will go down. You stupid fuck.
uh duhh. no one wants tranny pred in their sights.
Because most people, including you mostly see the brand part of Chris.
To claim otherwise, would means you know him personally, and know what he's like behind camera.
I find it kinda moronic to talk about "Chris" like we know his human part, when most of what ever see has been edited/cut/scripted as entertaining as possible in a video format.
@@kiattim2100 how do you know they even watch mr beast lmao
@@JohnesRoladias if you want to be treat like a human then act like one accept your gender roles and love yourself there’s no place for he/him/she/her/why/te
What i think people heavily miss with Jimmy is that hes adjusting to the change too.. Jimmy now has to get used to a completely different dynamic with his friend after years of being seen the one way. Jimmy is probably just adjusting to things and doesnt want to say anything offensive. Its pretty common
maybe jimmy just has a rock-solid bond with chris and his gender doesn't change that or any of the fun they have together. just a thought
speaking from experience
@@fullorganicalchemyst2715 you can't look at one way not everyone reacts the same
@@fullorganicalchemyst2715 Im not saying their bond and activities have changed, but Jimmy still shouldnt be looked at horribly for just getting used to a change
Definitely. I think the hate towards Chris is bad, but I think it's just as delusional to think Jimmy won't have a hard time adjusting. It's his long time friend who he's seen his whole life with a totally different body, voice, and other features.
@@micahbell9412 what?
I honestly could not care less about this drama, I don't feel like you can call it drama as there is no evidence of people near him caring
Divorce?
@@user-mh5lv3hz4d you can't just infer that that's the reason why they divorced
@@MMMForShort why not? It IS likely the cause. Let's be honest and use Occam's Razor. The simplest solution is most likely correct.
@@aggravatedstrawberry you have no reason to infer that, the fact that you're blaming the divorce on that with no information comes off as transphobic
@@MMMForShort they're obviously making the point to try calling Chris's transformation bad but I agree as a ally, it just makes sense given how little people support it sadly. Not to mention for her it probably felt like a huge shift. That doesnt change anything tho. U cant get mad at them and claim they're wrong bc their wife cant accept them. Its just a casualty I guess.
More people need to be calm and easy-going like Oompaville
I love oompy but he didn't consider Chris's wife and kids are affected very badly.
@@ieatbeans9621 Why should he consider something that there isn't proof of and solely based on debunked assumptions?
@@ieatbeans9621 How would Chris taking HRT affect his parental abilities. And would you be saying it would affect his ex-wife if they had just divorced?
@@atomic_bear His child would be without a strong father figure leading down a path that's good or bad depending on how you see it, with the current Chris his child would most likely end up like Chris.
@@Prolificx No father figure is no father figure.
It doesn’t sit right with me that sunny focused almost entirely on how their gender expression/transition could affect MrBeast’s brand rather than focusing on the online discourse and their personal journey on its own, they’re more than an accessory for Jimmy, they’re a person
I just wanna answer what Oompa asked about the HRT;
HRT does change your facial and bone structure SLIIIGHTLY, moreso if you begin it early as it's meant to push you through essentially a second puberty.
A lot of the work that made Chris look so different is also makeup, taking better care of himself with hygiene and stuff like that, stuff men generally ignore or care for casually.
It's a lot of both, and if you have some kind of advisor as you're starting up transition (which is something that is lifelong) you'll get a lot of helpful tips for things like that.
My daughter's voice coach always gave her lots of fashion tips and ways to accentuate specific features to generally look prettier, which is basic makeup stuff.
HRT? Hostage rescue team?
@@drygimangdrminjak8177 Highland Rat Toboggan? :0
The majority of the detractors are like 13 or something huh?
@@drygimangdrminjak8177Hormone replacement therapy
@@rhettlovell3148 Aaand.. my point is proven.
HRT cannot change bone structure. its simply body fat redistribution. if it could actually change bone structure i would be able to reach my god damned fruity pebbles on top of the fridge
Hate is definitely taught. I remember being a kid, when I saw a trans adult or drag queen I didn't think about anything except what kind of person they were (and they honestly seem magical as a kid, like seeing a unicorn lol). People don't have to make everything political! Just...live
The fact that you saw a drag queen as a kid is fucked up in itself
hate isn't taught, you are born with that emotion and everyone has.
"Hate is definitely taught"
no it isn't lmao
@@candytime-_- that’s what I’m saying.
I wouldn't say hate is natural like the people above me are saying (children definitely have an innocence and carelessness, if you will, that allows them to see past trivial things that teens and adults unnecessarily add importance to, like race), but it's definitely natural to have negative reactions to unfamiliar things or things that make us uncomfortable. We can see it in videos like the one where kids are forced to sit down with drag queens in ridiculous outfits; they're visibly uncomfortable, and arguably scared.
"they just seem like normal dudes. With autism."
I might have autism
Ahahahahah
Same 😭
He is on a Spectrum
I was gonna comment on that phrase, the vine boom fits very well
I'm currently 19 years old and I was diagnosed with autism when I was almost 2 years old.
NO I HAVE AUTISM LMAO THIS COMMENT SPEAKS TO ME
his channel is not gonna die 😭 look at all the youtubers who have done actual bad stuff and are still thriving. this won’t effect his career in the slightest and even if it does i’m pretty sure most people who agree that a long lasting friendship like theirs is more important that a career that he’s alr made millions from. even if it does die he’s staying rich and staying a true friend.
at first I thought you were talking about SunnyV2 and I was like "yeah, unfortunately that's probably gonna turn out to be the case...", although I really do hope Sunny's career is more or less over with this video. As for Mr. Beast/Chris, they've got nothing but green pastures ahead I'm sure!
You forget most of his subscribers are from parts of the world that dont put up with this crap, they kill these people....
this may just be me, but as a person who has stopped watching mrbeast because of the recent changes I beg to differ. I personally dont think gender changing is normal but idk he can do what he wants to, but I wont be watching mrbeast just to support chris's transition if his whole humor is gone ( and yes, chris's humor IS what fueled the channel this far in terms of entertainment value)
@@sacchitbera1824 oh no. they might get 100,000,000 views instead of 103,000,000 views from now on. the horror.
@@ae1327 you underestimate the potential backlash just because your beliefs are different and you dont have the imagination or brain power to realise that a good lot of people arent like you
Imagine being emotionally invested into the Mrbeast friend group
Chris: I'm gender non conforming
Caleb: oh, wait; that's fucking easy. I can just say a pronoun and it's accurate?! Sweet!
as someone who has no father figure, you can live a happy and healthy childhood without no father figure. its fucking stupid how people think you NEED a father figure in order to have a happy childhood.
EXACTLY. WHY IS THIS SUCH A CONTROVERSY! legit let them be happy. Jimmy isn’t just using Chris for content. People seem to forget that they have been friends since they were kids. You support friends! You can’t compare a channel on TH-cam dying to someone’s happiness. It’s always worth it. ❤
Keeping him around is probably a bad business decision, not considering their history and friendship.
@@Sniperboy5551 welp, it is a bad decision to keep him
Honestly love your way of "who cares" while still caring enough about things that are easy to do.
The way to go bro.
It's called being a fence sitter... and it's easy to take a stance on something like this, it's like saying murder is bad or pineapple on pizza is an abomination
@@HasanPikerIsADouche Pineapple on pizza is amazing. You frickin' murderer!
I think we should care about the moral degradation of society. Things tend to get really bad when we don't care and I would prefer it if millions didn't get "graped" and murdered in the fall of the cities. I'm not in a city so I can easily say I don't care either, the effects will only be seen in local store prices, but I do care because I think it is bad to give evil people the collapse they dream of. The children and innocent are the ones who suffer when society collapses. Anyone with moral integrity should care about that.
And yes. A man breaking apart his family in order to publicly display his fetishes is moral degradation. We haven't seen the effects of a dying society this bad since the Weimar Republic. What happend after the Weimar Republic?
@@HasanPikerIsADouche Trying not to be cancelled basically
@@vergil8833 lemme guess, the gays are taking your energy and the Earth is flat.
I mean TBH. While I don't understand the whole trans thing. This guy seems to be the best representation of how people should be just in general. He's not forcing himself down people's throats he's just being himself. Herself? Frick. They have my support.
True ally 👍
thankyou for actually trying to understand, you are very right and Chris is just trying to live their life
And he's being a good father figure for his son, why give a fuck what another adult is doing? It's not hurting anyone
For real bro. Man is just trying to make his limited time on earth the best it can be for himself, it doesnt hurt anyone and if it means that he is happy then let the man be.
Fr bro
Well... SunnyV2 was correct in a way.
This sunnyv2 video was calling Chris a nightmare for his gender identity. Not his predatory behavior. It’s not okay to come back after the fact and say that he was right and had a point when the situation is entirely different.
i really do find it ridiculously sad that someone's personal life is being analyzed based on how much it can affect a channel's views. rather than just ignoring it or accepting it. it's so divisive and weird.
sunny calling the queers “characters” pls 😭 it’s hilarious
Of course people will get used to Chris's appearance. I've gotten used to Oomp with funny hair.
I don't think that's the same bro
difference between a funny hair style and a completely different gender
@@bobeyarmstrong6009 it is, appearance changing is just that. a change to appearance. people get used to it
yeh ovi but for the groth of the channel is prolly fcked
No
8:27 I think what happened with this reaction was that Jimmy couldn't see the picture well how Chris was holding it, and he probably thought it was fan art of him. Then, when he couldn't discern any defining details from the angle, there was probably a camera preview in front of him. He looked at that, and that was his genuine reaction. It looks forced, but I don't think it was. The nice shirt thing is definitely just a bit.
The end has me truly speechless, the idea Chris owes Jimmy for his success and therefore it’s selfish for him to transition??! Actually a chronically online take, as if social blade stats are Loren important than someone’s actual life
I totaly agree with you oomp, calling Chris a character is wrong in so many levels, his whole take is "this is bad for business"
actual sociopathic take
Yeah almost as sociopathic as indulging the delusions of the mentally ill and pretending it makes you tolerant. 😂
this! i have loved sunny forever, but this was just truly an L take on his part. chris is a goddamn person who has made a huge step towards what they believes is their life's happiness. "this could be bad for business"? then maybe we should ask why that is and why so many people are being literally transphobic on the internet instead of virtually condemning chris for their decision in improving the happiness of their own life that affects fucking no one but themselves.
bruh calling sunny sociopathic because he had an opinion
@@fullorganicalchemyst2715 "a good person" think of his poor kid thats got a mentally unstable dad playing dress up running around in a dress and makeup thanks god that the kids mother dont want nothing to do with this freak
@@fullorganicalchemyst2715 not indulging the delusions of the mentally ill isn't "transphobic". Do you even know what "phobia" means? No one is afraid of Trans people. We have an issue with people like you affirming mental illness that doesn't help anyone. They have a 40+% self cancelation rate pre and post transition, it doesn't make them happier. If you folks bothered to do a tiny bit of research you'd know that. But you don't care about the truth, you only care about virtue signaling on the internet and pretending to care. 🤷♂️ it stings because it's the truth.
i hope Chris has enough strength to pull through this shit storm
and also, like do people really think that Chris just came one day wearing a dress and didn't discuss the public approach with Jimmy? Like they are two adult people, ofc they did.
Also the awkwardness during a stream is due to massive hate in the chat, everyone was hurt, not awkward.
I hope he doesn’t. Lol. I really hope he doesn’t. Lol
Chris likes boys?
@@RAM-ft3gk This is why your mother doesn't love you, and why she's so incredibly disappointed she devoted any of her life to you. Genuinely such a disappointment, I'm not sure how you live with yourself.
@@jazzspider8569 because he has a different opinion that's why his mother doesn't love him?
@@Mystique022 His opinion was hoping someone doesn't "pull through". If my child ever said that I would be so so disappointed and wonder what I did wrong for him to turn out like that.
Chris is Jimmy's first subscriber and has been by his side forever. He knows Chris isn't some vassal of his brand, and they've been great friends for absolutely ages so i'm sure he's known about this a lot longer than we have. It clearly doesn't matter to him, and he clearly isn't going to 'do' anything about the situation - there is no situation. Nothing needs to change, all that happened is that someone made an informed decision about their lives.
Really sad to see some people's shitty takes on something that doesn't even matter. Good video oomp 👍
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Common jack. W
I like that even a neutral video doesnt satisfy bigots now. TH-camrs dont know it but they're culling their degenerate fans anytime they give a take at all, because it isnt deranged and super anti LGBTQ
@Eren_yaegerr The LGBT++- has become a dangerous sex cult.
@@Jxvger ok bozo
People HAVE to start not caring for the most unimportant stuff
This video is literally the example of “making mountains out of mole hills” it’s not that big of a deal. If anything it says more about Sunny by him calling Chris a “character”
I'M GONNA SAY THIS ON EVERY VID THAT TALKS ABOUT THIS ISSUE: The live stream "awkwardness was just MrBeast being upset by the fact the entire live chat was making fun of Chris
Truth.
You can tell that isn't the only reason.
@@skudson1 no, mrbeast is chris's friend for life. of course he would defend him, of course he would be mad if someone was making fun of chris
didn’t know about that :( that’s sad.
i think you forgot the end quote
this is the best take on this situation that I've seen so far. good on you oomp!
Pretty sure Chris is just in love with Jimmy so he turned chick-sice up hahaha
@@FriedSheep69 shut up.
@@FriedSheep69 lmao funny joke
@@maxvasquez2529 thanks, I am here Monday to Sunday from 1am to 1am.
@@FriedSheep69 BOOOOOO👎
It's sad that he was finally comfortable to come out about this and the reaction he got is sad. I'm so happy jimmy is being so supportive and responding the way he has.
You are, but a lot of people aren’t. Mr Beast is running a business, I see him being (mostly) sidelined in the near future.
@@Sniperboy5551mr beast has made it clear that he doesn’t prioritize his company over his friends to the point that he’s already stated so on twitter
@@Sniperboy5551agreed
being conservative? yeah we really should stop accepting that, it causes nearly all of the problems we currently face@@madisxnn
@@madisxnn how is it damaging 💀
sorry but the way sunnyv2/people were talking about that livestream is wild 😭 writing so much fanfiction and for what? i swear they just look like they’re opening stuff and having a good time. chris didn’t say anything about him being a woman, he was showing him fanart made by a fan that depicted him as a woman. and mr beast didn’t look weirded out at all like… 😭 just feels ridiculous that folks are trying to spin a negative narrative when they don’t know these people personally. makes for entertaining fanfic but stops at that.
Ikr? Acting as if it was super strange that there were awkward silences in a livestream with a bunch of people that usually arent live, they clearly are more accustomed to edited videos. Its like they expect everyone to be an expert entertainer all the time or something
I think what Sunny is saying is that people are going to be annoyed no matter what direction MrBeast goes in, which would be a source of frustration for him. So the circumstances can become a “nightmare” for him. Not with Chris per se.
But obviously it’s not a hard decision for MrBeast to support Chris since they’ve been friends their whole lives.
Its also kinda dodgy trying to say stuff about sencetive shit, you'll have to be very good saying stuff that would not offend anyone and Just say that People have mixed opinions about this
@@retroflyer8733yeah any lgbt commentary can become very controversial with one wrong word
@@atch300 I’m a trans man and just like with all types of groups of people, there are ALWAYS going to be people who get offended over the smallest things. I think sometimes it seems like more people do it in the lgbt community because it’s more taboo. But like soooo many Christian’s will flip out and then at the same time try to tell you you are going to hell. But that’s not all Christian’s. They are usually just the loudest so get the most attention. But honestly, you will find wayyyy more people in the lgbt community who don’t hold people to crazy expectations. Most people just want equal rights and to just live their lives. I think as long as people aren’t purposefully being assholes then they shouldn’t be “cancelled” for something they don’t know about or even don’t agree with. If people in any community don’t open up for hard conversations then everyone will keep being misunderstood. Anyways, I hope the “bad eggs” who try to cancel someone immediately and don’t give chances for growth don’t ruin it for all of the lgbt community. Just like I’m sure most Christian’s don’t want the crazy ones that yell at people that they are going to hell don’t want that to ruin it for them all. ✌️
That's not at all what he's saying, and I'm feeling like maybe you didn't pay close attention. He very directly says Chris will have to quit making videos with Jimmy if Jimmy wants to remain financially successful
@@jetjohnston8164 honestly I think most of the people trying to “cancel” others about lgbt stuff aren’t even lgbt.
Oompa at 8:55 : They just seem like normal dudes with Autism
Me with Autism : HAHAHAHA 😂😂😂😂
You know, the biggest difference between the photos that I noticed was how miserable he looked in the old photo and how happy and excited he looks in the new one. Y'all some a**holes for not wanting Chris to be happy
LMAO 😂. Y'all gonna have to forgive me for this one in light of recent news. - 7-26-24
It's not that we don't want him to be happy, it's honestly the opposite. It's crazy in general that a solution for a mental illness is putting yourself in the mental and physical torture that is a second puberty and when it's over having to be the opposite gender permanently even though what you really needed was just some good friends and a good therapist.
Plus his kid is gonna be bullied so hard and who knows Chris might encourage him to do what he did and change his life permanently just because he was sad.
Who knows if Chris is really even happy? He could be contemplating suicide right now which is unsurprisingly very common with Trans people and we would have no idea.
@@eliasrodriguez1419 gender dysphoria is a real disorder. Maybe hormone therapy isn't ALWAYS the solution. But I think he's lived long enough in his body to know what he wants to do. And besides HRT is way better than killing himself and depriving every one that cares about him his existence. Also, it's ppl like you who have no possible idea what he's actually going through that make trans ppl commit suicide. Maybe you should think about how your words can affect ppl. When you have millions of ppl online telling you you're a bad dad and person because you're seeking help it drives you to a very dark place.
@@eliasrodriguez1419 It’s common among trans people bc of how much harassment they get 😑
The lack of sympathy sunny had shocked me.
Even going as far as insinuating a scenario Chris would try to fuck over Jimmy is absolutely absurd.
@@ikeaira8701 He didn't say a scenario where Chris would try to fuck over Jimmy. He was saying scenarioes that Chris would fuck over Jimmy. Chris would never try to intentionally fuck Jimmy over but Chris doesn't realize that by doing what he's been doing it is fucking over Jimmy.
@@skudson1 idk my guy he seems pretty supportive? 🤔
@@maxvasquez2529 that’s not really what skudson is saying. Also, I find it weird people care so much about Chris’ feelings but not the wife and kid he abandoned
Honestly I just want to eat paint
plus i don’t think he abandoned his family,him and his wife probably had a talk about what chris was going through and they decided it was best to separate so that way he could be himself,it would be worse if they stayed together and got in arguments in front of there children
i love oompa he is so very respectful while still being funny
Sunny had a vision. Saw something we did not
I really thought people would be supportive of chris. People can get cancelled for saying something vaguely transphobic and these people are just straight up saying he abandoned his kid by transitioning.
You don't need to be supportive of a mental illness tho?
Cause he basically did abondon his kid imagine that kid in school
@@shadowcobra69If he gets bullied he can report them. He's lucky to have Chris in his life no matter what because he's still his parent.
@@NarutoUzumaki-wj1zu And I'm pretty sure he's still in contact with his kid, too.
I can understand that but if he is truly transitioning and becomes a female or another gender, would that get rid of a fatherfigure in his life? its a genuine question, and im not saying Chris isn't a parent, but father figures are male parental figures, please answer this question if you know because I would like too as well
This aged well
I think a lot of the people that are angry about this have projected themselves on Chris in an extremely unhealthy way and are thinking "I wouldn't do this so they shouldn't do this"
100%, People are saying it was a choice, because for them it would be a choice. I’m a transgender man, and I first came out when I was 13, it’s been 3 years now and guess who hasn’t changed since they were born? THIS GUY! I also think it’s so silly people are saying they left their family. Like bro they probably weren’t in a good marriage and both Chris and their wife have been suffering in silence. Hope their still in their child’s life though. Glad they can finally be at peace and just live like themselves 😌
Stop thinking, you’re not good at it.
Bro, Chris definetly likes boys
Not really the point, but be my guest.
@@RAM-ft3gk as if you are? He made a good point. In fact, he just perfectly described a term in psychology known as "Freudian Projection"
Wanna know something funny? Adolf Hitler did this a lot, being a racist and all that. In fact, Freudian Projection is seen most often in racists, sexists, and homophobics.
And I don't mean the stupid Twitter idea of racism, where if you're white you're automatically racist. I mean actual bigotry, the kind that isn't restricted in any group of people
This is how you can tell someone is a genuine, good person. Oompa is a real g, and that's why his videos are so fun to watch
"NORMAL DUDES WITH AUTISM" i didnt know i was the only ONE WHO GOT THIS ENERGY
Fun Fact: Caleb (Oompa) is on the autism spectrum. He actually said that on video.
@@jonlosito2004 aspergers
@@jonlosito2004 Just like King Andrew.
As a trans person who has been a long time fan of Oompa, I just want to say thank you, thank you for addressing it in such a casual and “who cares” manner, not escalating the situation more then it already has been. Love you Oompa, and all my love to Chris too, she deserves it :(
He*
@@nothingspecial1421 he uses all pronouns lol
you mean he...cause his a man.
i have more than 56 videos proof of chris a man and also you call him " chris " instade of " christina " and this a boy name so ahm ahm...
@@nothingspecial1421 bro cant even misgender somebody right💀💀
Okay, curing blindness was one thing but accepting his friends transition and being supportive, Mr. Beast truly is the anti Christ.
He definitely has at least one 666 tattoo
Being supportive of your friend is a bad thing?
@Aexxir not at all, it was meant as sarcasm
@@aexxir no it’s a joke because people are dumb and say,” MR BREAST IS ANTI CHRIST” because they are probably jealous or bored
@@jesserhodes7430 Didn't notice, my bad
it honestly breaks my heart that people are treating her and Jimmy this way. blaming her for his downfall (that hasn't happened 4 months later btw) is so shitty. like she's literally done nothing but be out to the world to warrant this hate. and the crap they're saying about how she's ripped her family apart as if they know what's going on drives me up a wall. I GUARANTEE their son is handling her transition waaayy better than the adults attacking her online. I love the content Sunny makes, but this one was just NOT it and it's SO disappointing.
4:51 well that tweet aged like fucking milk
10:59 exactly BRUH 💀 the fact that sunny said that mr beast was “forced” to be accepting of chris is crazy…you’re right. they’re friends and have been since they were kids. ofc mr beast would support him! like, hello…?
Just bigot cope bc they liked mrbeast before he accepted... o..
Others .. for existing 🤬🤬
He kinda is forced to though, if he says anything that can be perceived as negative towards him, he'll be cancelled
@@leonrussell9607 that didn't stop J.K Rowling, why would it stop Mr. Beast?
Bad people aren't afraid of being cancelled
@@leonrussell9607 he's not forced to support in any way. if his beliefs don't align with Chris's then he could've put out a statement on why Chris was leaving the group & etc. As Rook mentioned, people as big as mr beast aren't afraid of getting cancelled.
@@flap.d.jack247 not supporting trans doesn't make you a bad person, it means you're normal
I’m glad Chris is feeling more comfortable in his own skin, people should just let people live their own lives.
Well not this way it’s just wrong, changing your gender isn’t going to make you happier.
@@aceofthewest5884 Agreed. It’s not his skin either if he’s chemically changing his appearance and mentality using HRT. I could really care less that he is becoming trans, but it annoys me that he has saying that it is ok in front of a young, impresionable audience. Im tired of people getting brainwashed by the media, and wish men could just embrace masculinity.
@@ironik8599 yeah media is definitely brainwashed everyone, we shouldn’t be teaching this to children, it’s just wrong.
@@ironik8599 it is ok. There have been people that fall outside of gender roles since gender roles were born. Masculinity is a social idea that only means anything because we give it meaning. Just because you care about it doesn’t mean everybody else does. Your lifestyle matters not to anyone else.
Trans kids face enough discrimination, with some of the highest suicide rates of any group. The percentage of people who regret transitioning is less than 1%. Kids are not “brainwashed” into being trans. There’s a reason why the process of transitioning is rigorous and lengthy.
"His own skin" right 😂😂😂👍
What kind of drugs does it take to believe in this type of bs I wanna try sum
8:54 “that’s just seems like they’re normal dudes with autism” is so funny and so real
Chris is just jimmy's friend, jimmy wouldnt shit on him.
I literally assumed chris was using a bit of uppers/addy as well he just looked like it. Then he came out and I was like "oh makes sense" lmao.
im high of the addy rn but i aint trans is my addy defective or sum shit?
That's pretty gnarly and all but do ya guys remember when Chandler won the Island in the "Last To Leave $800,000 Island Keeps It" video?
Bro sold that island☠️
The fact how almost everyone is unsupportive of Chris makes me so mad
It’s not him being trans it’s the other stuff he did that makes people dislike him
@@Bella_for_you7 i've only seen them talk about him being trans, i havent seen ANYONE mention the other stuff
@EndWarriorTTV yeah sure and it definitely doesn't always include chris being trans for some reason when people bring that stuff up
true, they should just let chris live their life
im trans- thanks for sorta talking about this oompa! also something im seeing is that no one realizes that it takes a really long time to actually start HRT- you have to jump through lots of hurdles and have notes from therapists. Also Jimmy has probably known about this for awhile, I'm assuming he didn't find out the same day we did
Haven't they put you in a mental hospital yet?
So, estrogen/hormone replacement therapy (ert/hrt) and/or testosterone suppressant (T blockers) for mtf and gnc people, can give a person more "feminine" secondary sex characteristics. Such as: softer skin, a decrease in muscle mass, breast growth, fat redistribution (hips, legs, and chest), and less body hair growth/balding patterns.
These changes can start take place within 3 to 6 months and may take 2 to 3 years for these changes to reach their full extent, but it depends on the person and the dosage.
Please reply with any questions u have, stay happy and healthy!
just another reminder that twitter isnt a real place. So many people just want to spread hate and project that fact they had trash childhoods.
People on twitter are just horrible
I can assure you the real world is way harsher than Twitter was to Chris. Specifically in Spain and Romania. I'm from there.
You're just a coward who doesn't care about the moral degradation of society. The blood of the innocent is on your hands.
HATE IS A FUCKING EMOTION RETARD A HUMAN GENETIC HORMONE EMOTION THING... its in fucking human nature to bully the smaller kid as a child and to love women and be the gender u are at birth... why are we trying to normalize this shit for about 5% of the population and put the other 95% of the populations careers on the line and if they say the wrong thing they lose their job and get shunned. i wouldnt mind this LGBT shit if 1 people werent so sensitive, 2 they let people have their own opinions on the subject, 3 kids shouldnt be taught this shit as it can fuck up their life and 4 it shouldnt have a month, or festivals where companies are forced into doing something for it and if they are not they get in shit
fun fact: i find more hate comments in youtube than the hate comments in twitter, twitter have more supportive comments.
probably because youtube is very easily accessible by kids (that are edgy and are a 5th grader) more than twitter in this situation.
There is a large difference between being happy and influencing kids.
What is he supposed to do?
@@leonthethird7494 I'm not asking him to do anything I'm just saying.
@@docy2550 I presume you’re asking him to stop influencing kids
@@leonthethird7494 Well he should stop influencing kids because its damaging them physically and mentally
@@docy2550 but how can he stop influencing kids? He isn’t telling kids to do stuff, he’s just being trans. What is your solution?
Honestly I lost all respect for Sunnyv2 after this. Just let homie live the life they want, why would that be a nightmare for their best pals?? Jimmy clearly cares a lot about them and wants what’s best for Chris. This dude needs to pull his head out of his butt. Thank you Oompa for being so chill with you commentary, you are a real one 🙌
Gained so much more respect for you. Just let people live. They’re not hurting anyone.
its against the bible, and god. america was founded on the bibles principles and this mentality will destroy this country..
What about his wife and kid? His kid is going to grow up fatherless because his father woke up one day and decided to get his nails done. He’s causing a life time of mental confusion and distress for his child, but we should let people live free of criticism, right? No body is actually stopping him from making these illogical decisions, they’re just criticizing him. When you do dumb things you deserve criticism.
@@manicdoom i can tell you are not educated on this man, dont embarrass yourself anymore, people dont just wake up one day and throw a family away, most of this happened behind the scenes, you can never tell when things like this happen especially to popular personalities
@@manicdoom also chris seems like an amazing parent and the whole dynamic of patriarchy and hetero relationships are so outdated and limiting, i guess it just takes people a bit to understand because of how much homophobia and transphobia is rooted, i implore you to go and study these things more and not just spew back the opinions that you took brain-washingly from people who do not understand this situation and are driven from hate. I know it is hard but please consider
@@manicdoom it’s clear how uneducated you are about this. His son will be ok.
"they just seem like normal dudes, with autism" had me cracking up
Think most people are less angry about him being trans and more about the fact he left his wife and kids
I think just his wife
He didn’t leave his kid and he split from his wife on good terms. The same people who are screaming about this probably couldn’t even tell you what his sons name is. If a cis couple divorces it’s every other Tuesday but apparently this is a meltdown
The split seemed mutual, kid is still clearly happy. Honestly, this is one of the healthiest public divorces I’ve ever seen.
The idea that Jimmy might prioritize the feelings of some jackasses on the internet he doesn't know as opposed to the feelings of one of his closest friends in his personal life is the kind of opinion that only greedy bigots will take. Jimmy is probably completely fine with losing viewers that would choose not to watch his videos just because of Chris. Anyone that stops watching over that wasn't a real fan of his channel anyway, and he probably knows that and is okay with that. Jimmy has shown multiple times that his priorities don't lie in viewer counts and amassing money for himself.
Literally
rephrasing the video you reacted to: "Chris should continue to front a character for the brand he built with his friends despite not being that person because it'll upset some people on twitter if he doesn't. :("
big agree. let Chris do what is right for them and be themself.
Norway here, As a literate person and a wildly dominant straight bodybuilding male; realitycheck the toxic masculinity😂
Its unreal that people are commenting over other peoples choice!
Besides that, the messages from Chris to haters are SPOT ON!
Oompas angle in this is really cool!
Ta Vare!🇳🇴🇺🇦
It's honestly quite impressive how incredibly thick-skulled people can be. Like, why do you even care? It's Chris' life, and they are entitled to make whatever decisions they may please with their own life and body. How people can have these, not even luke-warm, but freezing cold iq opinions, is baffling.
As a trans person can we have more mindsets like oompa where we’re just happy other people are happy and minding our business? Id love that more pls bc it creates such a positive environment of open mindedness and care
I don't like or agree with trans people, but I can't control you either so do your thing I guess lol
oh man, i’m sure all the comments are gonna be supportive of someone making a personal choice and not at all filled with idiots!
The fact that so many ppl don’t care about an actual trauma based mental disorder, and have been indoctrinated to say who cares let him be happy is so sad… and these same ppl like to pretend they care about mental health.
you've gained my respect
I listen to sunny's videos on the background from time to time, ive known that he wasnt a real "centrist" with a lot of his takes being pretty wild sometimes.
But he always hides behind reading random people's comments to avoid giving his clear opinion, just pay attention to most of his videos on controversial topics and this becomes cristal clear.
This time he just went overboard, no idea how he thought people would react to this tbh.
So he's not allowed to have an opinion ?
@@bogdanradovic671 not when the content that he puts out is supposed to be informational rather than giving opinions like Oompa who’s actually commentating. If he’s a commentary channel, go ahead, say whatever you want, but you can’t just hide behind other people’s opinions while still trying to make it seem like you’re not stating your own when his video clearly does that.
@@sinfin7154 just cause the majority of his content is only informational doesn't mean he cant give his take on the situation. And if he didnt "hide behind other ppls opinions" he would get cancelled in an instant because apparently free speech isnt a thing lol
@@sinfin7154 I think people view him as biased because of his tone, but it has nothing to do with the specific topic at hand. He does it in all his videos and I wouldn’t be surprised if it is from some sort of accent. He wasn’t extremely biased. He didn’t outright say Chris transitioning was bad for Chris personally. He’s making the argument that Chris didn’t consider the ramifications of his actions on his loved ones. He didn’t consider how it would distance Mr. Beast’s audience. In a way it is a bit narcissistic of Chris to not consider this. He put his feelings over his wife’s, who didn’t express support for him likely due to fears of backlash (she’s also conservative Christian.)
@@bogdanradovic671 like SinFin said, the problem is hiding opinion inside an "unbiased" take, he clearly showed more from the minority that is against Chris without balancing it with opposing takes or acknowledging it.
This is an issue when you have so many people putting you on a pedestal as a source of filtered but balanced information, while not outright saying that this is a byproduct of your own ideas and prejudices. These things need to be called out
Sunny thinks you should just toss your friends to the side when they differ from you or you think they might ruin your monetary value 😂 So sad. Moral compass is off. Friends change. That’s ok. You either stick by them or you don’t. How someone lives their life or dresses doesn’t hurt you directly unless you have low emotional intelligence and are bothered by everything indirect under the sun. I genuinely feel bad for judgy people or creators because it must be annoying to be annoyed by stuff that doesn’t matter constantly.
Sunny is low key showing he's transphobic at this point
@@brandonboswell3625 yes indeed!
Simply saying that the situation could potentially negatively affect the Mr Beast brand is not transphobia. Mr Beast, in the past, has fired people because their personality dynamic in the group was no longer required. Why is this any different?
If one individual is affecting the revenue of your business, which risks the lively hoods of everyone else that works for the business, would it not be adventitious to remove said individual?
Now, I'm not saying this is the case with Mr Beast, or am I saying that SunnyV2 had an accurate take on the situation. But none of what he said constitutes a phobia against trans people.
@@ssmitty sunny tried to make points against mrbeast that weren’t hinting to anything that he was saying
Do you guys know that all his videos are just assumptions and theories right?
i love oomp so much, and this just solidified my love for his content. fuck yeah, do what makes you happy💕💕
Technically, tucker IS fatherless as his "dad" is pretty much his second mother now.
He still goes by male pronouns so no not yet
@@cheesemanthe2nd Chris is making him wear heels ⚠⚠⚠⚠⚠⚠⚠
Idk why everyone is so concerned with his marriage and family when his ex wife has made it clear she’s fully supporting Chris in living his truth. They can still be good coparents. I don’t get why people care so much, just like Oompa said.
I agree with everything Oompa has said. People need to understand if someone is happy for who they are you shouldn’t take that away from them.
I gained a new level of respect for you brother!
I hate people who keep saying karl made chris gay and harassing karl because he just likes painting his nails
I just love oompa so much he has never said anything that upsets me and it just makes me realise being alive is worth it if there is more people like oompa
Oompavile thank you for actually having a actually good opinion and just being a good person all around this is why I subbed
Putting aside the transphobia...it's wild to me that Sunny chose to make the video's premise as if Chris is a character on a fictional show he thinks is being written badly. The way Sunny is framing it is like the showrunners of the Mr. Beast show are writing Chris to be less relatable and it's gonna hurt the ratings. These are real people. Chris is a real person, and Mr Beast is his real friend. I would hope Jimmy would choose to support his friend over possible backlash from fans over their transition. Also strong vs weak men I feel has been misconstrued by conservatives. Strong doesn't mean traditionally masculine, it doesn't mean "manly" in the modern sense. It doesn't even mean being physically strong, lots of great leaders (men and women and GNC) were physically not very threatening. Strong can be many things. Resilient, defiant, willing to stand up for yourself and others, etc. Being yourself in the face of a world that is not at all ready to accept you. I think of the people at Stonewall, LGBT+ people openly existing at a time when it was literally illegal to be queer. They would get arrested for just being visibly gay or dressing in drag. People wouldn't look at someone like Marsha P Johnson and call them strong. But she openly defied and fought cops when her existence was made illegal. That's strength. Personally, I think choosing to be GNC in front of millions of people facing constant scrutiny and threats and backlash is an incredibly strong thing to do. Chris is choosing to be themselves in public online while being called a liability, a predator, a bad father, and, depending on the state, being legally discriminated against and punished. It takes strength to do that.
Your statement at 3:00: "It's crazy this is a thing that people care about..." is the absolute truth. People go to such lengths to be homophobic or transphobic that it's absolutely ridiculous and need to understand and let people live the life they want to lead, why are you so bothered by what someone else does if you don't like it don't associate with them it's that simple, quit being a baby whining about someone being different and grow up.
Nice take, I disagree and agree with you. The thing is, a kid preferably should get a father figure, on top of that he's a boy. It is advised for a child to have a father figure. There needs to be a mother and a a father.
@@lGNITED As much as I agree a child does need a father figure, I think using him being trans as an excuse for him not having one is not a valid excuse for saying he can't be a father figure. I grew up without a father for most of my life and only knew him for maybe 5-6 years and I believe I turned out fine, gay but fine.
About that being a bad take........
I love oompa’s standpoint on this, super chill
Why is everyone being so sad about “oh no Jimmy will lose his precious career 😢”
When Chris is literally getting cyber bullied for being trans 😟
Also Jimmy can probably retire right now if he wanted to…
What if Mr. Beast just had a tummy ache during that video and he was trying to look brave about it?
No
I feel that that stream was only an example of them trying to get used to Chris' change, They're still at an info-settling point. Just give it some time, the vibes WILL be restored.
Chris transitioned before he made it public lil bud
@@juansostre456 idk why ur being hostile to non hostile comments? Like we don't know that. So either the joke was just bad or jimmy is getting adjusted , maybe hes getting adjusted to chris being fully you know , whatever youd wanna call Chris's new self on camera because theres some changes , maybe the joke was just ass, nobody knows. You arent jimmy. Speculate and stop assuming on behalf
@@juansostre456 and also being hostile to ppl who are still clearly allies just speculating something you think is objective will only cost you, it drives away trans and LGBTQ allies when ur overly sensitive to this point .
@@juansostre456 fyi I'm not throwing shots at you so dont go into a hissy
@@Jxvger didja get it all out there lil bud?
I do appreciate Caleb's easy going and confident individualism look on other people 👏 personally I find having strong opinions on everything to be exhausting
I feel like you should let other people f*ck up there own life without having any say in it, the world has already begun to collapse on its self so sit back, eat some popcorn, and enjoy the ride
I am glad to see Oompa view on this. More people need to take the "it's none of my business and its not hurting me so why should I care" perspective.
I was disappointed that Sunny made the choice to profit off this topic instead of covering anything else. They also have provided an opportunity for people to spread more hate and misunderstanding.
"Yeah you know all that child labor in China and human rights violations in the middle east? Well it's none of my business and not hurting me so clearly I shouldn't care about it"
- You, probably
Treat him with kindness before he writes a manifesto and targets a Christian school.