The first guy was actually sucked toward the trains. If the train was only a bit longer he would have been dead. That was incredibly stupid and dangerous of him and he can definitely celebrate his second birthday because of this.
Yeah when they tell you to stand behind the yellow lines at stations, they damn well mean it for a damn GOOD reason! Any closer and you're going with the passing train whether you like it or not lol
@@marc9080 il FrecciaRossa 1000 o ETR1000 è costruito totalmente in Italia da quella che fu Ansaldo, che è poi confluita in Bombardier, in Alstom e infine in Hitachi Rail. Se non sbaglio è il treno commerciale più veloce d'Europa (il TGV ha il record ma solo perché come al solito i francesi truccano i dati e per fare il record hanno fatto correre un treno modificato, ma ETR1000 dovrebbe essere l'unico omologato per viaggiare a 400 km/h, li potrebbe fare in alcuni tratti della rete italiana, ma non ne vale la pena, troppi costi per pochi benefici, quindi per ora sono limitati a 300). Mentre Italo usa solo AGV575 francesi. Quello che passa nella stazione di Reggio Emilia dovrebbe essere un ETR500 costruito dal Consorzio TREVI.
As a more or less frequent user of the high speed trains in Spain (largest network in the world outside of China), Ther is virtually no noise inside the carriages, excellent way to travel. Often quicker than flying over short / medium distances if you factor in the 2 hour before the departure time at airports.
I live in Malaga and I use the Renfe a lot and only fly internally if I am going to say Bilboa in northern Spain. I live 20min by train to Malaga airport the trains are comfortable efficient and cost effective.
The noise is okay.. but the vibrations in the short Talgo wagons... wished, we did not go for these with the ICE-L ... not giving shit though, Spanish Highspeed network is totally fine... if just the connectivity to France would be better again 🥲 We REALLY need trans-European highspeed rail connections, easy to book online... a shame, comapnies don't work together more closely there😕
And the train stations aren't long enough to let everyone board and leave. We have that problem with a few train lines in Germany. The tracks are at hourly capacity and we can't just add more wagons to the existing trains either, because some of the stops don't support longer trains. So the trains are basically always overcrowded.
also aren't the giga trains a uniquely american thing? because of some scheduling policy isn't it? edit found it: precision scheduled railroading its a cost cutting thing to run with as few employees as possible but it reduces reliability makes super long trains which also causes derailments and completely fucks any passenger rail you might try to run on the same track.
I'm French and I've taken the TGV a few times. In a double hooked train configuration, this can be up to 1000 passengers. That's already a lot of people to move around the station. Also, sometimes to get to the train car you have to walk 400 meters with your luggage in a crowd.
@@EvelynNdenial The cargo train market in Europe is also very liberalised and mostly operated by private third parties. They would at least have to pay excessively high track access fees if they wanted to run an overlong train, that blocks the line. If it was even allowed at all.
Last train was the world record speed for a train, its the French TGV, at 570km/hour or 345 miles/hour. It is a record, therefore it is not the speed this train goes when in use. The max speed (they don't go over it even if they could) with passenger is 300km/h or 186 mph
It's 320 on some lines, the most recent ones like LGV Sud-Europe-Atlantique (Tours - Bordeaux) and I think LGV Est (Paris - Strasbourg). May be some more
@@noefillon1749 la limite a 300 est entre Paris / Lille et Paris / Lyon . Tout les autres sont a 320 . Pendant un temps il était question de passé la limite a 350 mais le coût en énergie et l'impact sur les infrastructures n'étaient pas vraiment rentable
@@Laura-iw6sx To be fair, western european have great train, even if some of them aren't perfect (sorry germany ) As a french, i need to try to italian train one day, no sure what to expect (one day i will go to rome at least ). Any tips?
And stupid too! He should be fined for that [as they would in the UK]. I was a train driver [UK now retired] and someone jumped in front of my train doing 85 mph [137km/h] at a station. It is NOT a nice experience!
"Space Age train station" is in Italy, in the town of Reggio Emilia. The train that flies by is a Frecciarossa 1000 (Red Arrow in English). Top speed 255 mph, cruise speed 190 mph.
Actually, it was the much older ETR500. Top speed in service on high speed lines for this (and the ETR1000) is 300km/h (186mph), except on the Firenze-Roma line which is 250 (155). There are also ETR600s and ETR700s which can run no faster than 250km/h. The Italian AV lines are fantastic and Reggio Emilia looks amazing when you fly through at full speed. th-cam.com/video/yvpwlk589AY/w-d-xo.html&si=DpbMPK-IxjRdACPR
Well, you have to take into account that these trains have to fit in a normal passenger train station, typically in the city centre of the main cities, so they can't be a mile long 😅
That is exactly what I was going to say! I've travelled - and continue to travel - all over Europe and Asia by train, since I was a child of 7 or 8 going with my parents to visit some of my dad's friends in Belgium, and I'm now approaching 80. I love the chuggaluglug slow trains just as much as the super high speed intercity ones. Best way to travel by far!
It's also because of the frequency. If they are too long many seats would be empty. Having departures every hour or halves, make the train more user friendly to adapt schedules, so you have more departures with shorter trains, but many of the seats occupied, so increase eficiency.
Yeah, but we were copying the Japanese who first rode their shinkansen in... 1964!!! And the confort and service of it... Don't think I don't appreciate my TGV (I even rode in it with my journalist parents before it was open to the public), but SNCF service level... do I have to add anything?
With these high speed trains they try to offer an alternative to short flights in Europe. The gains are: the stations are in the center of the cities and you can board them on the scheduled time of departure. Airports are outside of cities and the cheap flights use ports of small towns away from the main cities.
Desde el Talgo, España ha exportado la tecnología de la alta velocidad, a muchos países, por ejemplo a Arabia, tengo entendido que tambien en estados unidos tiene varios proyectos
The Austrian Railjet is 200 km/h or 125 mp/h. The German ICE and the European Eurostar are up to 300 km/h or 185 mp/h. The Italian Frecciarossa 1000 is capable of speeds up to 400 km/h or 250 mp/h. The french TGV has an operating speed of 320 km/h or 200 mp/h but is capable of 575 km/h or 360 mp/h. The best thing is: America could build these too.
@@Trainspider514 yes, but not all generations and the operating speed is 200km/h for most parts. Austria has the disadvantage od the alps too. But besides the speed, the Railjetnetwork is one of the top two networks in Europe.
Railjet has a permitted speed of 230km/h (~142 mph; both generations had the same maximum speed). However, the Railjets can travel 275km/h (170mph) - an attempt was made in 2008 when a train traveled between St. Valentin and Amstetten.
@@messire9837 Too busy telling everyone how their country is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and how Americans are better, more intelligent, and their country is "more advanced" than any other country. The reality is even UZBEKISTAN has more miles of high speed railway than the US does, and that's pretty shameful for supposedly the "richest country on the planet".
Here in France (I don't know about other countries), our high speed train usualy are a block of 200m (650ft) long. When there is a higher demand, you can add another block wich bring the total lengh to 400m (1300ft).
Almost all high speed trains in Europe are either 200 m long (and those can be combined to a 400 m long composition) or close to 400 m. This is because Europe has decided to standardise maximum (passenger) train and platform length to 400 m, to ensure that all trains can serve all major train stations (at least in regard to train length, other technical aspects often restrict which countries a given train model can operate in).
In France they do pollute less, as the major part of electricity is produced by nuclear plants there. In Germany the power used to run the trains is more polluting, now that Germany has shut down its nuclear power plants.
@@OldieBugger Almost 70% of electricity in Germany is generated from renewable energies. The coal-fired power plants are only a short-term temporary solution. Many different projects show the imminent (very few decades) complete departure from fossil fuels. E.g. the huge hydrogen from solar power projects in Morocco and Namibia, which mean CO2-free independence from natural gas. Sure... nuclear power is initially cleaner to operate... but where do you put the terribly dirty waste? And what about security? Ukrainians and Japanese would now have more land without nuclear power! Your nuclear power plants are safe!!!? Military missiles say otherwise. Or a few planes full of fireworks. What do you think is going on when 1/3 of your country has to move, people, industry, no agriculture from the area etc. Then it's better to put in a little effort and spend money and e.g. Letting sun and wind, waves and tides, geothermal energy and air source heat pumps work FOREVER FOR FREE, (The energies or the fuels from it), right?
Almost 70% of electricity in Germany is generated from renewable energies. The coal-fired power plants are only a short-term temporary solution. Many different projects show the imminent (very few decades) complete departure from fossil fuels. E.g. the huge hydrogen from solar power projects in Morocco and Namibia, which mean CO2-free independence from natural gas. Sure... nuclear power is initially cleaner to operate... but where do you put the terribly dirty waste? And what about security? Ukrainians and Japanese would now have more land without nuclear power! Your nuclear power plants are safe!!!? Military missiles say otherwise. Or a few pl**es full of fi****rks. What do you think is going on when 1/3 of your country has to move, people, industry, no agriculture from the area etc. Then it's better to put in a little effort and spend money and e.g. Letting sun and wind, waves and tides, geothermal energy and air source heat pumps work FOREVER FOR FREE, right?
@@OldieBugger Almost 70% of electricity in Germany is generated from renewable energies. The coal-fired power plants are only a short-term temporary solution. Many different projects show the imminent (very few decades) complete departure from fossil fuels. E.g. the huge hydrogen from solar power projects in Morocco and Namibia, which mean CO2-free independence from natural gas. Sure... nuclear power is initially cleaner to operate... but where do you put the terribly dirty waste? And what about security? Ukrainians and Japanese would now have more land without nuclear power! Your nuclear power plants are safe!!!? A few planes full of fireworks say otherwise... What do you think is going on when 1/3 of your country has to move, people, industry, no agriculture from the area etc. Then it's better to put in a little effort and spend money and e.g. Letting sun and wind, waves and tides, geothermal energy and air source heat pumps work FOREVER FOR FREE, right?
One of the reasons trains in Europe might be shorter than in the USA is because there are so many more of them. It's common to have high-speed train routes running every 30 minutes, or even more on busy corridors, rather than a couple of times a week. Most would be a similar size to the Acela, which only has 6 passenger carriages (+ 2 power cars). At 3:45, it isn't uncommon to have two trains coupled together. It isn't about one train "towing" the other like it's broken down, it's two trains working together (just like you might have two locos on a long freight train to give it more power) so that you can get more passenger capacity. It's very common on regular trains as well, it's just a lot more noticeable on high-speed trains because of the aerodynamic ends.
And how would you fit a two km long train station in the centre of a city? Edit: two trains coupled together are often decoupled somewhere mid-route. So you have to be careful to find a seat in the correct section, or you'll end up in the wrong place.
1:53 was Pendolino in poland going 293 km/h while testing. 200 km/h is normally allowed on this line, now it is being upgraded to 250 km/h (new control systems needed)
In densely populated countries such as Germany or BeNeLux with rail stops often coming up every few kilometers, top speeds cannot be endlessly high or you would zoom by or brake past the next stops. Geography also plays a role (mountains vs plains, also major rivers, hills, or urban sprawl). In bigger and mostly flat area countries with lower population density such as France and Spain you have longer stretches between stops and thus can go considerably and sensibly faster if the design of the high-speed trains allows for it.
Indeed, hence why the US Eastern half of the country consisting in large cities every 200 or 300 miles separated by vast emptyness is actually quite optimal for high speed rail, contrary to what is often assumed. The main reason I believe why the US hasn't developped rail so much is because it's an oil-producing country where gas is cheap and in which transportation consolidated in oil-based transportation such as cars and planes. Oil-deprived Europe had more economical incentives to develop alternatives.
it's not uncommon for two trains to be connected if they need more space for passengers during ''rush hour'', although they're both pushing, and not towing another train
Italo and Trenitalia: 2 different companies running high speed train services in Italy. Bear this in mind while thinking about Italy just for food and stereotypes
Train travel in Europe is cheap super convenient and comfortable and you can go anywhere ( UK as ever excluded) but even in the U.K. when I lived in London you could leave your house at 11 and be sitting down for lunch in Brussels or Paris by 2 , no check in , just rock up to the train station and get on , on the mainland it’s often way quicker than flying and far less polluting which Europeans care about
5:36 "What was that?" That was the onboard view of the fastest train (on rails) in the world, the French TGV. It reached a top speed of 574.8 km/h (357 mph) and could have gone faster, but that might have destroyed the overhead power line. Still, even with that limitation it was moving at almost half the speed of sound.
The eurostar train travels from Folkstone, south east England under the seabed of the English Channel at speeds of up to 170 mph and comes out at calais in France. 45 mins or so travelling time..
Went from London to Paris and back in 2019. The coolest part is going under the English Channel. Not much of a view, but knowing that you are under the sea...
at a train station that i use sometimes there is a cargo train that will drive thru with (what feels like) 200kmh. the scary part about that is 1. you can't see or hear the train coming at all. 2.platform is only maybe 2 meters wide 3. it feels like the air will suck you towards the train when the it speeds by. ( which does happen when you're to close to the tracks ! ) 4. the sound .. the sound makes me so f*ing uncomfortable every time
As an actual cargo train driver I'm sorry, we just can't slow down at every station because it takes too long to increase and decrease speed with our humongous trains. Stations should have announcements to warn about approaching non-stop trains, I know some stations in my country (Spain) do. Anyway, take care and don't go beyond the yellow line if you hear anything approaching!
@@osasunaitor no need to apologize. in germany the announcments for trains that just drive through are only in main train stations ( as far as i know) i'm aways worried for kids and older people
trains are for broke boys... real ALPHA drive a V8 😎 Europe need trains because they are poor compared to America. 💪 AMERICA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ! 💪
That's a problem. A train that stops five times en route is no longer a "high speed" train. And if takes 5 1/2 hours to get to the other city, it can only make one round trip in a day! How many times do you think an airplanes fly from Denver to Chicago daily?
@@karlbmiles 1: That has absoliutely nothing to do with what defines a high speed train. 2: The number of round trips are not relevant at all, I don't know what kind of crazy thinking made you believe that bs.
@@vrenak Of course. But the conversation has to do with a 5 1/2 hour trip from Denver to Chicago. One round trip is 11 hours, you're not going to do that but once per day. It's a practical matter of supply and demand. The US has 528 commercial airports, and no high speed trains. Think it through with an open mind. America is a rich country, we can fly men to the moon, we can have high speed trains, IF they were practical.
@@karlbmiles They ARE practical, keep in mind all the time you spend getting to the airport, then waiting in line at check-in and security, you have to be there long before the plane departs, then you fly for a 2½-3 hours (depending on the airline you take), and then you have to get into town after, all the while you're in a cramped seat, or a hideously expensive one. And the plane hasn't saved you time at all.
@3:51 you say something like "Oh, that's really slow" and EXACTLY at that moment you see a sign showing the maximum speed the train is allowed to travel at that point LOL 140 kmh approximately 88mph
@@to_lowwThe Swiss railways, SBB, own two types of trains capable of 250 km/h. One of them is shown here (Astoro/ETR-610). Within Switzerland, there are two very long tunnels (and one shorter one) designed for a top speed of 250 km/h. However, these lines have only been certified for 230 km/h since it had become clear that for capacity reasons, driving faster would limit said capacity too much. Also only one out of four passenger trains through one of the tunnels, the Gotthard Base Tunnel, is actually scheduled to reach this speed of 230 km/h. All other trains run at 200 km/h in these tunnels (they might exceed that if they are running late).
You should come to Spain. For example traveling from Madrid to Barcelona. It is crazy when it starts going 300 km / hour. Way better than flying or car. Love trains but high speed are something else😊
@@exvagoergosum thanks for changing the subject. I have never seen this written anywhere but we don’t go where the tourists go, very often as they often make the experience horrible. When they come here they often act in ways that they would not dare in their own countries as they would be fined or be put in jail. It’s not just Spain tourist make themselves unpopular think Venice, Paris, London and most of the other tourist traps where they make the life of locals impossible. Before you make the stupid argument that they bring money to the local economy, most of that money goes to a few people and not always locals, in addition, they force the price of housing beyond what locals can afford, make the streets dangerous, make noise all night so it’s impossible to sleep, use people font door as a toilet and much more, how would you feel if someone did that to you every day
The first train was a German "ICE 3" - these trains can go up to 320/330 km/h - almost 200 miles per hour... the second train is the austrian ÖBB's "Railjet" - a loco-hauled 7 car train that can get up to 230 km/h - 143 miles per hour... 5:32 - that's a clip of a TGV getting the speed record of 574.8 km/h - almost 357 miles per hour... talking about train length - ICEs are different depending on the model. The ICE 1 (straed operation in 1991) have 14 cars and 2 motor cars at each end. The ICE3 has a 7 car and a 9 car version, the ICE 4 has a 12 car and a 14 car version.
What I love about those trains is how they don't even bother to come up with fancy names and they are usually just called by a variation of "high speed train"
Brit here. You have A high speed train in America. Its called the "Acela" Runs between Washington, New York and Boston. Average speed (without stopping at other stations) app[rox 100mph. There are improvements in the offing, to make it faster-250mph. I know, because I rode on it from New York to Boston. Most high speed trains in Europe travel about 300 to 500 miles and take on the airlines in time. No waiting a the airport, straight into the station and board the train. Some lost cost airlines, with a low ticket price do beat the trains on cost. The train is the way to go though, no customs or baggage checks, straight on the train, settle down ans away you go--brilliant. America is different in that it already has a very good internal airline business and it would be prohibitive for anyone, having to lay out the enourmous cost of track and trains whilst taking on the airlines. Its a no brainer, not going to happen over long distances. The most advanced train, is in China. The "Maglev" - magnetic levitation train. China set to test an ultra high speed Maglev train at 1000km/h (621mph)!
The US has some additional "higher speed" (~125 mph or 200 km/h) trains besides Acela. Most of them are in the northeast corridor, and include urban commuter trains and state transit trains. In the northeast, the New Jersey Transit trains serve the urban corridor from Trenton to New York City, and the trains go about every 15 minutes with a top speed of 110 mph (175 km/h). Some of the MTA trains in Boston and the metroliner in DC reach similar speeds. Outside of the northeast corridor, there is not much. There is a private company called Brightline that operates trains in Florida with a cruising speed of 125 mph/200 km/h. Brightline has also broken ground on a "higher speed" line from Los Angeles to Las Vegas, which has the potential to take hundreds of planes out of the sky and millions of cars off the road by having a fast and affordable rail line. California is also in the process of building its own HSR network, but it has had a few setbacks - mostly related to land easements. Most of the national US passenger rail network (Amtrak) must operate on tracks owned by freight companies, and because of the condition of the tracks (heavy wear and tear, lots of at-grade intersections, etc), the Amtrak trains have a maximum speed of only 79 mph (~130 km/h) in most places, even though the trains themselves can go much faster on passenger-rail grade tracks. Even on the Acela route, the train only reaches its maximum cruising speed through parts of Maryland, New Jersey and Massachusetts. The stretch from New York City to Rhode Island has lots of tight curves that prevent the train from going much faster than a regular Amtrak train.
If trains were better than airlines, the U.S. would have them. We have "high speed" elevators that go 100 floors in a minute because they are better than stairs. But we're not going to put "high speed" elevators in buildings that less than 50 stories because it's not economical. We are planning true high speed lines here and there, places that have high traffic, such as Miami to Orlando, Las Vegas to Anaheim, and Dallas to Houston, but that's about it.
@DavideMozzanica Operational speed of TGV in France is 200 mph, that means NYC to DC in about one hour. High speed rail requires dedicated new tracks so having dismantled low speed tracks isn't really relevant. The distance between US cities on the Eastern half of the country is actually pretty optimal for high speed rail, similar to Spain or France, the 2 countries with the most extensive networks in Europe. Remote cities being separated by vast emptyness is actually the best layout for HSR. The real reason why the US hasn't built HSR is because it's an oil-producing country, in which gas was historically cheap, having built entire industries around cars and planes. Only 1.2% of the US rail network is even electrified. European countries don't produce any oil, being entirely dependent on foreign imports which damage their sovereignty, so they pushed earlier for other alternatives.
The speed differences are due to differing national conditions. France basically is mostly empty outside of the Île de France ... so a lot of Fly-over departements, just prefering to skip on the wings for their "TGV airplanes". Germany meanwhile is extremely decentralised, with 11 metropolitan regions spread out over the country. There just isn't enough distance between them to accelerate and brake if you'd try to go faster than 320kmh / 200mph.
Contrary to what we often hear in the US, a dense country with many cities close to another isn't the best layout for high speed rail. The best one is about cities separated by several hundreds of kilometers of relative emptyness, as can be found in Spain or France. That's also how it is on the Eastern half of the US, which would actually be quite optimal for high speed rail.
I took the uzbek high speed train last month between Buchara and Tashkent. Most of the time, the trains runs 160 km/h or less. Only for a short period, it accelerated until 220 km/h. The tracks are not very good an there are lots of vibrations and noise.
The U.S. is #1 in GDP, which tells you America could afford high speed rail if it wanted them. There must be other factors than money that rules out the benefit of high speed trains. America has put men on the moon. Uzbekistan's high speed rail route is their national achievement.
Some trains are basically 2 trains attached to each others, some are just 1. But cargo trains in europe are also long, maybe not as long as in the US but cargo is cargo i guess
Train AVE (ALTA VELOCIDAD ESPAÑOLA - HIGH SPANISH SPEED) line Madrid - Valencia, over the Contreras Reservoir at Villargordo del Cabriel in the province of Valencia. Reduces speed on this section and it ranges between 260 - 280 km/h (162,5 - 175 MPH) for safety reasons.
I've been singing the praises of high speed rail for years, it's a great way to travel, very civilised. I've travelled throughout Europe on these wonderful machines, if you ever get the chance do it, you won't be disappointed!
I've travelled on AVE HST's from Valencia to Madrid. Normal journey time for the 240 mile trip is around just under 2 hours, so an AVERAGE speed of 120mph. The speedo in the carriage hit 300kph... The ride is smooth as silk btw, and internal noise pretty much non existent
During the summer I travelled from Perpignan close to the Spanish border in France to London. I had to change from the TGV to a Eurostar in Paris, involving a two-station trip on the Paris Metro. The total journey, door to door was faster than doing the journey by plane.
Trains in America are so long because there is little traffic and you have to take advantage of carrying as much cargo as possible on each trip. Here in Europe the traffic is constant. On the other hand, a convoy that is too long causes structural problems that are especially noticeable on curves. I have seen some videos of trains in America that derail at very low speed and without any apparent cause to explain it. The tail cars simply started to come off the tracks.
Cargo trains are longer than passenger trains in Europe as well. How long they can get is limited by the infrastructure. The EU has set the goal of enabling 740 m long cargo trains across most of the network. Limits are set by passing stations, where slower freight trains pull to the side to let faster passenger trains pass them, but also by marshalling yards and freight terminals.
@@aphextwin5712 I live just 100 metres from a railway line. The vast majority of freight trains run at night. And yes, they are considerably longer than passenger trains. If the EU is planning to increase the length of trains, it is surely counting on the good condition of the rails on the European network. If we look online for images of the condition of many lines in America, the strange thing is that there are not more accidents.
Ryan is happy like a child watching those big machine darting through the screen.... and so I am. Something I think everyone around the world can agree. Big powerful machines are COOL. 3:40 : that's kind of what happen. High speed trains are usually designed to have a fixed number of cars, or very little variation. So when you need more room, you put one or more "units" together. This is also used for the case where the train share a common departure station but different arrival ones : the trains start together but at some point in a station they will be decoupled and each part will go to their destination. And of course the opposite happen as well, when the two trains come back, they are attached so they travel together to the destination. 7:20 : the difference are : weaker economies (ransacked by the Soviet Union for 40 years and still recovering), smaller populations (Only 4 countries in "Eastern Europe" (it's more line Central and Southern Europe) have a population over 10 millions : Poland, Romania, Ukraine, and the Czech Republic) and smaller territories. Those mean that those countries can't afford to built high speed lines, which are more costly to built and maintain than regular lines, or, they can afford it but never get benefits because there would be too little use. There is a line planned between Budapest and Athens that would link several capitals to hte rest of the European high speed line however.
The Trans-European Transport Network (TEN-T) is supposed to fix part of that, including a highspeed rail connection Finland-Estonia-Latvia-Lithuania-Poland-Germany-Netherlands/Belgium (and includiong undersea rail tunnels at least between Germany and Denmark). Unfortunately for infrastructure development, Germany is right in teh middle of Europe, giving our NIMBYs WAY too much power....
Después de japon, España es el país con la Red más grande de trenes, las infraestructuras de España son las mejores de Europa, Obama quedó impresionado en su visita a España
The fundamental difference between European (and UK) versus the US Railways is prioritisation, the US has long since prioritised freight, goods or minerals traffic, whereas in Europe it's passengers. Thus the infrastructure is focused that way, Europe has multiple lines in trunk routes, single track lines are only found in the remote areas, and passing loops are placed in regular spacing; in the US there are vast spans of single tracks, passing loops and sidings are used to allow freight to pass around the passengers. Then the tracks are generally continuous in Europe, rather than plated together in US, Europe runs at speeds of between 120 and 200 mph, the US would be lucky to average 90 mph between cities.
@@to_loww Neither in the EU. In the past the railroads were State owned but there have been a big push for privatization in the early 2000s' under Barroso at the helm of the EU Commission. I cannot speak for all EU countries but often the rail system is owned by a private company and other companies operates the train lines (trains themselves, ticket sales,...), often with state participation in the capital and supervision. Edit : I'm wrong, check the reply of to-loww, below.
@@19Murad77 Not really. The UK and Estonia tried that once and is was a disaster, that was soon reversed. They may have corporate governance (like DB Netz until recently) but are still state-owned. Some states have outsourced their infrastructure in order to feign lower national debt, but again, without giving up control or ownership. The closest thing we probably have to privatised rail infrastructure is GySEV which is partly owned by Strabag SE.
@@to_loww You are right. I thought Infrabel in Belgium for instance was mostly privatized but the State still hold 60% of the voting rights. Thanks for the head up.
When I worked on British Rail in the late 1980s the standing instruction for trackside staff working on 125mph lines was to keep at least 6ft away from the track.
2 trains together is double traction... an ICE 4 is close to 1/4 mile long, with nearly 1000 seats, 2 sets combined are 1/2 mile.... its the max length of German train station platform!
You can not combine two ICE4's. Only the 7 Cabs long ones. So you will get 410m rounded up. Just like the ICE 3. Grüße von einem ICE Triebfahrzeugführer :)
The 1st one, where you first asked "how fast is he going" was an ICE that goes up to 300 kilometers per hour. and in the train it's totally smooth. you only recognize the speed if you look at the speed displays. And the High Speed trains are not towing. They are just linked. at least every locomotive and often every car is powered. The 570 kilometers per hour from the shortened TGV (Last clip with the cheering people) is a record thing with a modified train without passenger cars on a relatively straight track section. As far as I know still the fastest "conventional" train. Only record attempts with maglev are even faster
@@flitsertheo Not for want of trying. It's complicated, controversial and expensive. It will eventually be simpler and more cost effective to build ours entirely underground.
UK intercity trains hit 125mph (201km/h) the European Union defins high speed rail as speeds in excess off 200km/h so depending how you count it it might just scrape by @flitsertheo
When I first went on the German ICE train to Cologne from Utrecht in 1999 I was fascinated by the kph readout showing it going as fast as a plane! Also the super comfortable seats even in 2nd class , a headphone socket to plug in your earphones and the space-age WC with sliding doors like Star Trek.
Most of these trains are EMU's (Electric Multiple Units) These are double ended (a driving cab at both ends) and are made up of a set number of carriages, for example, 5, 6 or 8, that make up a complete unit, and can travel in either direction without the need to switch a locomotive from end to end. Two or more multiple units can be coupled together to make longer trains. You can get situations, here in the UK at least, where multiple units can be added or subtracted from the train during its journey to serve different destinations. This only takes a minute or so for the trains I'm familiar with. Passenger trains hauled by a separate locomotive are something rarely if ever seen now in the UK, and I believe not in Europe either, except possibly in a few East European countries. DMU's (Diesel Multiple Units) exist as well, and to your eyes may not look much different to the EMU's, only the lack of the pantograph, (power pick up) or the sound tells you they are different. There are even some trains in the UK that use both electric and diesel traction depending where they are, not all lines being electrified for the whole route. The fastest train in the UK is the Eurostar that travels from London St Pancras Station via the Channel Tunnel to Paris.
Regarding multiple units: 1. unlike loco-hauled trains, which have only powered bogies under the locos, multiple units have distributed traction across the entire train. This means better acceleration and less axle loads -> less track wear. 2. another concept is the wing train, having two different destinations. In Germany, a double set is running from Munich to Hanover, where the train is split in a front part going to Hamburg and a rear part going to Bremen.
France started it all in Europe with the 300km/h TGV in 1982 (top of my head) to connect Paris to Lyon, the 2nd biggest city. That captured the imagination of course, they looked fast standing still too. France likes big projects, has the centralist authoritarian government to just do it, and a huge area in the middle of the country where not much is going on while it's relatively flat.
Authoritarian is not really an appropriate word but yeah the central government is very powerful and used to be even more between the 1960's and 1980's. France has a really big engineering and especially civil engineering tradition, engineering schools are numerous, they are their own world and produce among the most influencial personalities, for better or for worse. Engineers having a lot of power can lead to projects like the Concorde that are engineering marvels but economic disasters. France also has a tradition of powerful centralized (state-owned) companies on technical matters like the SNCF (train), EDF (electricity) and many others that not longer exist... This is one of the reasons why we have a lot of strikes (especially train strikes), as the modern French society was built by state-owned organisations without competition and that is opposite of what the EU project is about : a free-market economy with the competition as a motto. States are really restricted in certain sectors, cannot invest if it threatens the competition. The competition also has to be EU-wide, not only national. Public purchases above a certain amount have to be accessible companies throughout all the EU. That is to make more real the idea that the EU is the world's biggest market, for more efficiency and scale economies, like what the US benefited from to get to where they are today. But that doesn't come without tensions when this ideology is faced with the reality of societies that have always functionned a different way. I don't really know if one way is better than the other. I think it really depends on the (geo)political and economical context.
@@noefillon1749 Authoritative is maybe more appropriate, but it's all relative. France has also a big private engineering tradition, from the zenith of the industrial revolution to Bugatti and Citroen. I'm not an EU fan at all, and it's free market policy is not about getting things done but about shareholder ROI. I like free markets but some great things can only happen with greater plans than just making money and with unity and leadership. I don't believe privatizing things like railways, energy grids and postal services have done countries much good. The EU also failed massively in getting international rail work well, instead it made sure the climate destroying air travel became really cheap.
@@DenUitvreter I you'd like, can you give more detail about the international rail thing? I'm don't really know what you refer to and I'm not sure how you could say EU has failed it when it's a currently being worked on. About the electricity I don't really know much but from what I heard, the situation is somewhat different from the railways. Regarding the railways, the rails are not under competition. The services are. That changes much. I think those who will benefit from the competition are the main cities with HSR : Paris, Lyon, Lille, Marseille, Bordeaux, Strasbourg and soon, Toulouse. These routes could benefit from increased competition, more trains and lower fares. Less profitable routes might see their services be reduced and prices raised by the SNCF which used to compensate their losses with gains from profitable routes but which will be forced to lower its prices on those routes and may be lose market share. I'm talking about TGV/Ouigo, in summary commercial services. Regional trains are public service and are in a totally different situation. The advantage is that after all the most profitable routes are profitable because they service more people. It's a question of efficiency and how many trains there are as a whole. But that means we assume increased territorial inequality. It's often the same underlying question with social policy and public involvement in the economy : how much inequality do we tolerate for the sake of efficiency and geopolitical relevance. This question is not universal, in some cases the market gives inefficient AND unfair results, but in many cases I think this is the actual question
The noise when the train wagons pass by is made by the wind vortexes that form between each train wagon. The last "boom" is the final vortex that is done on the end nose (in that case) where the air is being pulled down onto the tracks and has this "blast" effect when hitting the rail blocks. It's how aerodynamics works. How air travels alongside the train, as it's being pushed very fast and somewhat compressed into a smaller space for a few moments. Different shapes will produce different sounds. That's why on the second train you noticed that, the spaces between the train wagons are, not only smaller, but of a different shape.
The "last car" @1:40 was an electric locomotive not a caboose. lol Edit: We don't have cabooses in Europe [well def not in the UK/Germany]. Cargo trains are usually longer [for the cost/profit margin] and are not the same a passneger trains. If we had a population of China/India, then maybe longer passenger trains would be the norm. But we have frequency too.
@@quantisedspace7047 Hey einstein. I'm speaking ENGLISH so it's a CABOOSE! We don't have them in the UK anyway, we have 'guard's van'. Edit: Plural = cabooses.
Soome years agoI remember seeing the French TGV for the first time. They have counter weights on the overhead pick-up wire. These start bouncing, before you even see a train, and the bounce gets more and more unti the train passes they're bouncing 10 feet in the air. It's caused by the bow wave of the pantagrraph pick-up on the wire. Amazing!!!
I love trains. I dropped one of my sons off at Milton Keynes train station last year and me and my other son (we’re both on the spectrum) decided to wait for the next non-stop train to come through the station. MK is on the main line to and from London. Some trains to and from London don’t stop there. Anyway the next one came through, we were standing on the platform and it scared the crap out of us!! Btw the joy in your face as you watched was lovely ☺️
You and Sheldon, Ryan - you and Sheldon ;) It´s cool to see the thrill you get out of this video. I´ve never seen or taken a high-speed train myself, but I´m used to electrical trains, so maybe the lack of engine noises is a part of it? Now, if you look at the engineering side, there´s a lot to be exited about - these things are HEAVY! And they travel at speeds that most people would only adhere to dragsters or airplanes. They also lean through the curves, so as a passenger you won´t feel the centrifugal forces.
It’s very convenient when you have to travel 2 to 500 miles. It goes from city center to city center so you save the commuting time to the airport. You don’t have security check or luggage to register, you can simply jump in and out. And another nice thing is that you can move freely in the train, go to the bar, etc. For longer distance, the plane makes more sense.
At the end by the cheapest they mean low cost high speed rail service. The company is called Ouigo its a sister company of SNCF the French train operator, its all 2nd class seating unlike the SNCF that they have first class too. The tickets are about 12-15 usd per person
They go at different speeds depending on the line speed/signal aspect/if they just set off from/or slowing down for a station etc. So some will be 'slower' than others. Edit: Sometimes they add units together [hence the 'pulling the other unit'] and split them later. The last one was a French TGV world record test train.
That last train on the main video was the world rail speed record being set on a modified (and shortened) French TGV train on 3rd April 2007 - 574.8 km/h (357.2 mph).
This video reminded me of the musical Starlight Express, it's about trains racing each other in a child's dream and it's also something you could react to since its version in Bochum, Germany holds the world record as the longest running play in one place (since 1988)
I finally rode HSR a couple of months ago and crossed off another item from bucket list. I must tell you, it is more impressive seeing it from the outside, riding it so smooth you can't grasp out fast you are going. And, another fact, a lot of the trackway has brush and trees growing next to it, so all you see is a green blur. I spent a month traveling Europe and took HPR from Amsterdam to Brussels, Brussels to Paris, Paris-Lyon round trip and the Eurostar to London. And slower trains from Budapest-Vienna, Vienna- Prague, Prague-Berlin, Berlin-Amsterdam.
The german ICE (Intercity express) has a peak of 300 km/h or 186.4 mph. same speed as the Eurostar which only purpose it is to connect europs biggest and most famous cities without unneccessary stops in between. you can travel from paris to london in less than 2 1/2 hours.
What's more impressive than the high speed is the number of connections and the frequency. It's worth getting an all Europe train ticket to explore Europe by just getting on a train to somewhere, stay for a few days, then get on the train to somewhere else, in a different country. And you don't have to go through airport check-in, security and all that. Just turn up, get on the train and go.
English here. I have had the privilege of going on the sncf tgv. Its amazing. One of the cars had a soft play area for children free of charge. And thfe food was good.
My friend saw a man in the UK standing to close to the edge of train platform and he was drunk, my friend said to the man " Don't stand too close to the edge the train will suck you off " and the the man laughed and said " Come on train " that's a true story. Also years ago when you could open train windows I saw a friend on a school trip sticking his head out the window of a train, I said to him " Don't do that if a train comes the other way it will take your head off " and he said " Don't worry I will see the train coming " there is no telling some people, you can see how fast trains go when you see the train coming after you stick your head out of the window that's the moment it's taking your head off.
We have long freight trains too, but they don't travel so fast. Passenger trains are often long and often double deckers! The station platforms, here in France anyway, are marked out exactly where individual carriages draw to a halt.
Most people park their cars and then board the trains as it’s quick and gets them into work in the cities. Same on way home as you would have a long walk home. It’s called park and ride so look it up.
The Channel Tunnel Train, the Class 373 that inaugurated the service from London to Paris, was 387 metres. At a max speed of 300 km/h, it passes a single point in 4.64 seconds
I travelled on the TGV from Avignon to Paris in 1986. It was quick, the restaurant car is great, but I don't think they liked the English very much, even though I'm fluent in Froglish. 😊 The food was excellent and the wine went down well. Excellent selection of cheeses. At full speed the air bangs when the train goes under a bridge. It was an experience, especially compared to British Rail on journey from Dover to London. No munchies at all. 🇬🇧
France is a small country in the middle of Europe and thanks to our TGV, we travel very fast by train inside our country but also to Spain, Swiss, London, Germany, Italy, Belgium and Netherlands. These trains are fast, comfy and you are in the middle of the city to take it, so it’s perfect to travel fast and easily. In a country as huge as USA, the plane seemed to be the best option but i think that in the eastern coast, a fast train would be very nice to link the big cities
Fun fact: It's *not* an "ice" train, noone in Germany calls it that. It's an acronym for Inter City Express and hence it is pronounced I.C.E., just like americans would say U.F.O. instead of "Ufo"...
The blue/silver, with yellow stripe, is the Eurostar, which runs between London/Paris, also London/Brussels (stopping at Lille en route). They have about 18 coaches. From any of those you can get connections to just about anywhere in Europe using high speed or regular services. They need dedicated platforms, as most others generally accommodate up to about 10. I came back from Paris yesterday, absolutely loved it, and it took 20 minutes in the tunnel, which includes a few miles either end, before the English Channel, to allow for descent/ascent, so maybe about 15 mins under the water. Cool! You definitely have to try it, have to admit trains are my passion. I'm sure you can see the potential for high speed rail in the US, (or 'any' kind, come to that!). 🙋♀️🇬🇧🤗
The first guy was actually sucked toward the trains. If the train was only a bit longer he would have been dead. That was incredibly stupid and dangerous of him and he can definitely celebrate his second birthday because of this.
And his need for new underwear. 🤣
He actually works there
he knew it too, as you can hear him exclaiming "shit!" as it approaches!
Yeah when they tell you to stand behind the yellow lines at stations, they damn well mean it for a damn GOOD reason! Any closer and you're going with the passing train whether you like it or not lol
@@Windgonner
I thing that he don't standing so close to the train but he's camera is on the "selfee" stick. Of course, that is dangerous too.
Gotta love the “scheiße” during the first video. Appropriate reaction when standing that close to the track.
And getting sucked towards the train.
@@DenUitvreter yeah when he asked "is he tryn to die" i thought "he did NOT move closer by choice i bet" xD
@@nero756 ya that was scary close...
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Yeah, absolutely illegal and very dangerous. (Aspiration effect at high speed is dangerous up to 2,4 m)
The last sequence was the french TGV the day it broke the world speed record at 574.8 km/h.
that's 1140 burger per seconds for our fellow americans
@@pouf6463I was going to comment on this video but your comment outshines all. Well done. 😂😂😂
@pouf6463 😂👍
@@pouf6463 So 1 burger is 15 cm... seems fair
@@pouf6463 🙂
The "Space" station is Reggio Emilia mediopadana AV here in Italy :-)
Oui avec un AGV français! Alstom.
@@marc9080 Plus Italian built Frecciarossa and Italo.
@@marc9080 il FrecciaRossa 1000 o ETR1000 è costruito totalmente in Italia da quella che fu Ansaldo, che è poi confluita in Bombardier, in Alstom e infine in Hitachi Rail. Se non sbaglio è il treno commerciale più veloce d'Europa (il TGV ha il record ma solo perché come al solito i francesi truccano i dati e per fare il record hanno fatto correre un treno modificato, ma ETR1000 dovrebbe essere l'unico omologato per viaggiare a 400 km/h, li potrebbe fare in alcuni tratti della rete italiana, ma non ne vale la pena, troppi costi per pochi benefici, quindi per ora sono limitati a 300). Mentre Italo usa solo AGV575 francesi. Quello che passa nella stazione di Reggio Emilia dovrebbe essere un ETR500 costruito dal Consorzio TREVI.
@@nicoladc89 si, è decisamente un ETR500
@@marc9080no
As a more or less frequent user of the high speed trains in Spain (largest network in the world outside of China), Ther is virtually no noise inside the carriages, excellent way to travel. Often quicker than flying over short / medium distances if you factor in the 2 hour before the departure time at airports.
I live in Malaga and I use the Renfe a lot and only fly internally if I am going to say Bilboa in northern Spain. I live 20min by train to Malaga airport the trains are comfortable efficient and cost effective.
The noise is okay.. but the vibrations in the short Talgo wagons... wished, we did not go for these with the ICE-L ... not giving shit though, Spanish Highspeed network is totally fine... if just the connectivity to France would be better again 🥲 We REALLY need trans-European highspeed rail connections, easy to book online... a shame, comapnies don't work together more closely there😕
*jealous german noise* our trains are always to late 😢 they say: "invest in german cars" only in cars 😭 so sad and embarrassing
…and an hour after landing
The trains won't ever be as long as cargo trains because they will generally be running multiple times an hour - you wouldn't need that many seats.
And there aren't as many passengers as there is cargo.
And the train stations aren't long enough to let everyone board and leave. We have that problem with a few train lines in Germany. The tracks are at hourly capacity and we can't just add more wagons to the existing trains either, because some of the stops don't support longer trains. So the trains are basically always overcrowded.
also aren't the giga trains a uniquely american thing? because of some scheduling policy isn't it?
edit found it: precision scheduled railroading
its a cost cutting thing to run with as few employees as possible but it reduces reliability makes super long trains which also causes derailments and completely fucks any passenger rail you might try to run on the same track.
I'm French and I've taken the TGV a few times. In a double hooked train configuration, this can be up to 1000 passengers.
That's already a lot of people to move around the station.
Also, sometimes to get to the train car you have to walk 400 meters with your luggage in a crowd.
@@EvelynNdenial The cargo train market in Europe is also very liberalised and mostly operated by private third parties. They would at least have to pay excessively high track access fees if they wanted to run an overlong train, that blocks the line. If it was even allowed at all.
Last train was the world record speed for a train, its the French TGV, at 570km/hour or 345 miles/hour. It is a record, therefore it is not the speed this train goes when in use. The max speed (they don't go over it even if they could) with passenger is 300km/h or 186 mph
It's 320 on some lines, the most recent ones like LGV Sud-Europe-Atlantique (Tours - Bordeaux) and I think LGV Est (Paris - Strasbourg). May be some more
320 ^^
@@noefillon1749 la limite a 300 est entre Paris / Lille et Paris / Lyon . Tout les autres sont a 320 . Pendant un temps il était question de passé la limite a 350 mais le coût en énergie et l'impact sur les infrastructures n'étaient pas vraiment rentable
TGV are not even build for speeds over 320 km/h. This specific TGV was intentionally build to be that fast.
@@athrunzala6770 Ok donc toutes sauf les toutes premières. Donc ça ajoute Paris-Tours-Rennes et Lyon-Marseille/Montpellier.
We french need our trains to go fast. This way we have more time to spend on lunches and vacations.
Same in Italy🤝
And strikes
Nous avons des priorités 😂
@@jattikuukunen Yes, we need time to fight our government.
@@Laura-iw6sx To be fair, western european have great train, even if some of them aren't perfect (sorry germany )
As a french, i need to try to italian train one day, no sure what to expect (one day i will go to rome at least ). Any tips?
The guy recording the first clip knew instantly that he was too close and shouts "Scheisse". No, no cabooses. And they're all electric.
The guy filming the trains is crazy he's so close to them that's why he yelled ,scheisse, sh!t in German !
And stupid too!
He should be fined for that [as they would in the UK].
I was a train driver [UK now retired] and someone jumped in front of my train doing 85 mph [137km/h] at a station.
It is NOT a nice experience!
Yeah it must have sucked alot. Pun intended.
@@anglosaxon5874 mate... there is a difference between standing next to the tracks and jumping right infront of the train 😭
@@nero756 If you are close enough to the high-speed train, there is no difference. Sssshhhlllllsssh !
@@nero756 🤡 'Mate'
We should start a petition to finally get him on train..
he needs a passport first... something Americans dont have and never heard about!
@@Arltratlo Oh they have heard of passports but 'Merika so big'...
Good news, he has one!
@@Thurgosh_OG so big that instead of high speed rail their trains just do 79mph to take even longer.
@@Thurgosh_OGToo big for trains, unfortunately! 😢
"Space Age train station" is in Italy, in the town of Reggio Emilia. The train that flies by is a Frecciarossa 1000 (Red Arrow in English). Top speed 255 mph, cruise speed 190 mph.
Oui AGV français fabriquer en rouge pour l'Italie par Alstom! très beau.
Actually, it was the much older ETR500. Top speed in service on high speed lines for this (and the ETR1000) is 300km/h (186mph), except on the Firenze-Roma line which is 250 (155). There are also ETR600s and ETR700s which can run no faster than 250km/h. The Italian AV lines are fantastic and Reggio Emilia looks amazing when you fly through at full speed. th-cam.com/video/yvpwlk589AY/w-d-xo.html&si=DpbMPK-IxjRdACPR
@@marc9080eppure non avete ancora imparato a farvi un bidet
Well, you have to take into account that these trains have to fit in a normal passenger train station, typically in the city centre of the main cities, so they can't be a mile long 😅
That is exactly what I was going to say!
I've travelled - and continue to travel - all over Europe and Asia by train, since I was a child of 7 or 8 going with my parents to visit some of my dad's friends in Belgium, and I'm now approaching 80. I love the chuggaluglug slow trains just as much as the super high speed intercity ones. Best way to travel by far!
They have to slow down when reaching a station or in the end the trains would tear it out of its foundation.
It's also because of the frequency. If they are too long many seats would be empty. Having departures every hour or halves, make the train more user friendly to adapt schedules, so you have more departures with shorter trains, but many of the seats occupied, so increase eficiency.
Eurostars are nearly 400m long, or over 1200ft, they are pretty long!
The 'spacecraft' was the Eurostar - gets you from central London to central Paris in 2 hours, Brussels 2.5, Amsterdam in 4, via the Channel Tunnel :)
French built in 1981 the 1st true HST line in Europe, world speed record on rails 380 kph (1981), 515 kph (1990), 574 kph (2007).
Yeah, but we were copying the Japanese who first rode their shinkansen in... 1964!!! And the confort and service of it... Don't think I don't appreciate my TGV (I even rode in it with my journalist parents before it was open to the public), but SNCF service level... do I have to add anything?
@@esthermimart3935Italy the first in 1930's. Check out.
It´s km/h, what they teach you in schools?
With these high speed trains they try to offer an alternative to short flights in Europe.
The gains are: the stations are in the center of the cities and you can board them on the scheduled time of departure.
Airports are outside of cities and the cheap flights use ports of small towns away from the main cities.
On the gain side: ecology! Even a coal-based electricity high speed train "produces" less CO2 than a plane (even more on short distances).
Spain is the 2nd country in the world with the most km of high-speed roads with 4,500km after China which has 40,000km!!
First in the world per capita.
Cuando el presidente Obama visitó España, quedó impresionado de las infraestructuras de España
Desde el Talgo, España ha exportado la tecnología de la alta velocidad, a muchos países, por ejemplo a Arabia, tengo entendido que tambien en estados unidos tiene varios proyectos
the first per capita
But their trains suck- they shake and struggle by high speed.
People forget that a fast train moving past you will pull you in. "Scheiße" very much warranted
The Austrian Railjet is 200 km/h or 125 mp/h.
The German ICE and the European Eurostar are up to 300 km/h or 185 mp/h.
The Italian Frecciarossa 1000 is capable of speeds up to 400 km/h or 250 mp/h.
The french TGV has an operating speed of 320 km/h or 200 mp/h but is capable of 575 km/h or 360 mp/h.
The best thing is: America could build these too.
RailJet can reach speed to 230 km/h.
Americans are too busy blowing up youtube nerd streams, these days. And you know it.
@@Trainspider514 yes, but not all generations and the operating speed is 200km/h for most parts.
Austria has the disadvantage od the alps too. But besides the speed, the Railjetnetwork is one of the top two networks in Europe.
Railjet has a permitted speed of 230km/h (~142 mph; both generations had the same maximum speed). However, the Railjets can travel 275km/h (170mph) - an attempt was made in 2008 when a train traveled between St. Valentin and Amstetten.
@@messire9837 Too busy telling everyone how their country is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and how Americans are better, more intelligent, and their country is "more advanced" than any other country.
The reality is even UZBEKISTAN has more miles of high speed railway than the US does, and that's pretty shameful for supposedly the "richest country on the planet".
Ryans reactions r facinating, its like seeing a kid in the candy store...
Here in France (I don't know about other countries), our high speed train usualy are a block of 200m (650ft) long. When there is a higher demand, you can add another block wich bring the total lengh to 400m (1300ft).
Almost all high speed trains in Europe are either 200 m long (and those can be combined to a 400 m long composition) or close to 400 m. This is because Europe has decided to standardise maximum (passenger) train and platform length to 400 m, to ensure that all trains can serve all major train stations (at least in regard to train length, other technical aspects often restrict which countries a given train model can operate in).
One of the biggest advantages is that they pollute less than aircraft.........
And don't emitt CO2 at height where it has 2.7 times bigger greenhouse effect.
In France they do pollute less, as the major part of electricity is produced by nuclear plants there. In Germany the power used to run the trains is more polluting, now that Germany has shut down its nuclear power plants.
@@OldieBugger
Almost 70% of electricity in Germany is generated from renewable energies.
The coal-fired power plants are only a short-term temporary solution. Many different projects show the imminent (very few decades) complete departure from fossil fuels.
E.g. the huge hydrogen from solar power projects in Morocco and Namibia, which mean CO2-free independence from natural gas.
Sure... nuclear power is initially cleaner to operate... but where do you put the terribly dirty waste?
And what about security?
Ukrainians and Japanese would now have more land without nuclear power!
Your nuclear power plants are safe!!!?
Military missiles say otherwise.
Or a few planes full of fireworks.
What do you think is going on when 1/3 of your country has to move, people, industry, no agriculture from the area etc.
Then it's better to put in a little effort and spend money and e.g. Letting sun and wind, waves and tides, geothermal energy and air source heat pumps work FOREVER FOR FREE, (The energies or the fuels from it), right?
Almost 70% of electricity in Germany is generated from renewable energies.
The coal-fired power plants are only a short-term temporary solution. Many different projects show the imminent (very few decades) complete departure from fossil fuels.
E.g. the huge hydrogen from solar power projects in Morocco and Namibia, which mean CO2-free independence from natural gas.
Sure... nuclear power is initially cleaner to operate... but where do you put the terribly dirty waste?
And what about security?
Ukrainians and Japanese would now have more land without nuclear power!
Your nuclear power plants are safe!!!?
Military missiles say otherwise.
Or a few pl**es full of fi****rks.
What do you think is going on when 1/3 of your country has to move, people, industry, no agriculture from the area etc.
Then it's better to put in a little effort and spend money and e.g. Letting sun and wind, waves and tides, geothermal energy and air source heat pumps work FOREVER FOR FREE, right?
@@OldieBugger
Almost 70% of electricity in Germany is generated from renewable energies.
The coal-fired power plants are only a short-term temporary solution. Many different projects show the imminent (very few decades) complete departure from fossil fuels.
E.g. the huge hydrogen from solar power projects in Morocco and Namibia, which mean CO2-free independence from natural gas.
Sure... nuclear power is initially cleaner to operate... but where do you put the terribly dirty waste?
And what about security?
Ukrainians and Japanese would now have more land without nuclear power!
Your nuclear power plants are safe!!!?
A few planes full of fireworks say otherwise...
What do you think is going on when 1/3 of your country has to move, people, industry, no agriculture from the area etc.
Then it's better to put in a little effort and spend money and e.g. Letting sun and wind, waves and tides, geothermal energy and air source heat pumps work FOREVER FOR FREE, right?
One of the reasons trains in Europe might be shorter than in the USA is because there are so many more of them. It's common to have high-speed train routes running every 30 minutes, or even more on busy corridors, rather than a couple of times a week. Most would be a similar size to the Acela, which only has 6 passenger carriages (+ 2 power cars).
At 3:45, it isn't uncommon to have two trains coupled together. It isn't about one train "towing" the other like it's broken down, it's two trains working together (just like you might have two locos on a long freight train to give it more power) so that you can get more passenger capacity. It's very common on regular trains as well, it's just a lot more noticeable on high-speed trains because of the aerodynamic ends.
And how would you fit a two km long train station in the centre of a city?
Edit: two trains coupled together are often decoupled somewhere mid-route. So you have to be careful to find a seat in the correct section, or you'll end up in the wrong place.
1:53 was Pendolino in poland going 293 km/h while testing. 200 km/h is normally allowed on this line, now it is being upgraded to 250 km/h (new control systems needed)
Since the name is a pendolino I thoght class 390
In densely populated countries such as Germany or BeNeLux with rail stops often coming up every few kilometers, top speeds cannot be endlessly high or you would zoom by or brake past the next stops. Geography also plays a role (mountains vs plains, also major rivers, hills, or urban sprawl). In bigger and mostly flat area countries with lower population density such as France and Spain you have longer stretches between stops and thus can go considerably and sensibly faster if the design of the high-speed trains allows for it.
Indeed, hence why the US Eastern half of the country consisting in large cities every 200 or 300 miles separated by vast emptyness is actually quite optimal for high speed rail, contrary to what is often assumed. The main reason I believe why the US hasn't developped rail so much is because it's an oil-producing country where gas is cheap and in which transportation consolidated in oil-based transportation such as cars and planes. Oil-deprived Europe had more economical incentives to develop alternatives.
I've seen quite a few of your videos but the commentary about your commentary was the best I heard in any of them so far. 🤣😂
it's not uncommon for two trains to be connected if they need more space for passengers during ''rush hour'', although they're both pushing, and not towing another train
Italo and Trenitalia: 2 different companies running high speed train services in Italy.
Bear this in mind while thinking about Italy just for food and stereotypes
Train travel in Europe is cheap super convenient and comfortable and you can go anywhere ( UK as ever excluded) but even in the U.K. when I lived in London you could leave your house at 11 and be sitting down for lunch in Brussels or Paris by 2 , no check in , just rock up to the train station and get on , on the mainland it’s often way quicker than flying and far less polluting which Europeans care about
5:36 "What was that?" That was the onboard view of the fastest train (on rails) in the world, the French TGV. It reached a top speed of 574.8 km/h (357 mph) and could have gone faster, but that might have destroyed the overhead power line. Still, even with that limitation it was moving at almost half the speed of sound.
The eurostar train travels from Folkstone, south east England under the seabed of the English Channel at speeds of up to 170 mph and comes out at calais in France. 45 mins or so travelling time..
London (St Pancras) to Paris (Gare du Nord) and back. Went on it in March this year with my sister and niece.
@rjjcms1 I was just referring to when I lived in Canterbury that's all. Most people outside the UK wouldn't have a clue where i was mentioning ..
Only French and German trains (Alstom and Siemens) run there.
Not sure that they reach 300 in the tunnel, I believe they are limited to 160 km/h
Went from London to Paris and back in 2019. The coolest part is going under the English Channel. Not much of a view, but knowing that you are under the sea...
at a train station that i use sometimes there is a cargo train that will drive thru with (what feels like) 200kmh. the scary part about that is
1. you can't see or hear the train coming at all.
2.platform is only maybe 2 meters wide
3. it feels like the air will suck you towards the train when the it speeds by. ( which does happen when you're to close to the tracks ! )
4. the sound .. the sound makes me so f*ing uncomfortable every time
As an actual cargo train driver I'm sorry, we just can't slow down at every station because it takes too long to increase and decrease speed with our humongous trains. Stations should have announcements to warn about approaching non-stop trains, I know some stations in my country (Spain) do. Anyway, take care and don't go beyond the yellow line if you hear anything approaching!
@@osasunaitor no need to apologize.
in germany the announcments for trains that just drive through are only in main train stations ( as far as i know)
i'm aways worried for kids and older people
Now imagine having one between Chicago and Denver, with maybe 5 stops en route, you could be city center to city center in 5½ hours.
trains are for broke boys... real ALPHA drive a V8 😎
Europe need trains because they are poor compared to America. 💪
AMERICA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ! 💪
That's a problem. A train that stops five times en route is no longer a "high speed" train.
And if takes 5 1/2 hours to get to the other city, it can only make one round trip in a day! How many times do you think an airplanes fly from Denver to Chicago daily?
@@karlbmiles 1: That has absoliutely nothing to do with what defines a high speed train. 2: The number of round trips are not relevant at all, I don't know what kind of crazy thinking made you believe that bs.
@@vrenak Of course. But the conversation has to do with a 5 1/2 hour trip from Denver to Chicago. One round trip is 11 hours, you're not going to do that but once per day. It's a practical matter of supply and demand. The US has 528 commercial airports, and no high speed trains. Think it through with an open mind.
America is a rich country, we can fly men to the moon, we can have high speed trains, IF they were practical.
@@karlbmiles They ARE practical, keep in mind all the time you spend getting to the airport, then waiting in line at check-in and security, you have to be there long before the plane departs, then you fly for a 2½-3 hours (depending on the airline you take), and then you have to get into town after, all the while you're in a cramped seat, or a hideously expensive one. And the plane hasn't saved you time at all.
@3:51 you say something like "Oh, that's really slow" and EXACTLY at that moment you see a sign showing the maximum speed the train is allowed to travel at that point LOL
140 kmh approximately 88mph
It's a Swiss train and in Switzerland the trains are not so fast, they run at a maximum of 200km/h on some special segments only.
@@LeopoldoGhielmetti 250 km/h with a Giruno in the Gotthard Base Tunnel.
88 mph😲!?! Just add a flux capacitor and 1.21 gigOwatts you'll get a really futuristic train😄
@@to_lowwThe Swiss railways, SBB, own two types of trains capable of 250 km/h. One of them is shown here (Astoro/ETR-610). Within Switzerland, there are two very long tunnels (and one shorter one) designed for a top speed of 250 km/h. However, these lines have only been certified for 230 km/h since it had become clear that for capacity reasons, driving faster would limit said capacity too much.
Also only one out of four passenger trains through one of the tunnels, the Gotthard Base Tunnel, is actually scheduled to reach this speed of 230 km/h. All other trains run at 200 km/h in these tunnels (they might exceed that if they are running late).
You should come to Spain. For example traveling from Madrid to Barcelona. It is crazy when it starts going 300 km / hour. Way better than flying or car. Love trains but high speed are something else😊
For sure. AVE are the goats
Yeah go to Spain, the country where "Tourists go home" is written everywhere... I guess they want you to take the return train only.
@@exvagoergosum thanks for changing the subject. I have never seen this written anywhere but we don’t go where the tourists go, very often as they often make the experience horrible. When they come here they often act in ways that they would not dare in their own countries as they would be fined or be put in jail. It’s not just Spain tourist make themselves unpopular think Venice, Paris, London and most of the other tourist traps where they make the life of locals impossible.
Before you make the stupid argument that they bring money to the local economy, most of that money goes to a few people and not always locals, in addition, they force the price of housing beyond what locals can afford, make the streets dangerous, make noise all night so it’s impossible to sleep, use people font door as a toilet and much more, how would you feel if someone did that to you every day
@@exvagoergosum not everywhere. Only in Barcelona.
@@exvagoergosumEverywhere? That’s not true. Tourists are welcome in Spain.
Man, all i need is a big thing going very fast and I'm happy
I have a big thing but not very fast... 🤨
@@dyosorkan i was about writing something similar, but can't, she stands right behind me and i don't want to void my lifeinsurance ;-)
@@michaelkeller5008 🫡
The first train was a German "ICE 3" - these trains can go up to 320/330 km/h - almost 200 miles per hour... the second train is the austrian ÖBB's "Railjet" - a loco-hauled 7 car train that can get up to 230 km/h - 143 miles per hour... 5:32 - that's a clip of a TGV getting the speed record of 574.8 km/h - almost 357 miles per hour...
talking about train length - ICEs are different depending on the model. The ICE 1 (straed operation in 1991) have 14 cars and 2 motor cars at each end. The ICE3 has a 7 car and a 9 car version, the ICE 4 has a 12 car and a 14 car version.
What I love about those trains is how they don't even bother to come up with fancy names and they are usually just called by a variation of "high speed train"
And then there is the all the "Jets" in Austria and Czechia.
And the "Frecce" (Arrows) in Italy.
Europe and asia: Shwuuuuush
America: Chuca chuca CHU CHU!!!
Brit here. You have A high speed train in America. Its called the "Acela" Runs between Washington, New York and Boston. Average speed (without stopping at other stations) app[rox 100mph. There are improvements in the offing, to make it faster-250mph. I know, because I rode on it from New York to Boston. Most high speed trains in Europe travel about 300 to 500 miles and take on the airlines in time. No waiting a the airport, straight into the station and board the train. Some lost cost airlines, with a low ticket price do beat the trains on cost. The train is the way to go though, no customs or baggage checks, straight on the train, settle down ans away you go--brilliant. America is different in that it already has a very good internal airline business and it would be prohibitive for anyone, having to lay out the enourmous cost of track and trains whilst taking on the airlines. Its a no brainer, not going to happen over long distances. The most advanced train, is in China. The "Maglev" - magnetic levitation train. China set to test an ultra high speed Maglev train at 1000km/h (621mph)!
Most high speed trains in Europe travel about 300 to 500 miles? You surely mean kilometres.
The US has some additional "higher speed" (~125 mph or 200 km/h) trains besides Acela. Most of them are in the northeast corridor, and include urban commuter trains and state transit trains. In the northeast, the New Jersey Transit trains serve the urban corridor from Trenton to New York City, and the trains go about every 15 minutes with a top speed of 110 mph (175 km/h). Some of the MTA trains in Boston and the metroliner in DC reach similar speeds. Outside of the northeast corridor, there is not much. There is a private company called Brightline that operates trains in Florida with a cruising speed of 125 mph/200 km/h. Brightline has also broken ground on a "higher speed" line from Los Angeles to Las Vegas, which has the potential to take hundreds of planes out of the sky and millions of cars off the road by having a fast and affordable rail line. California is also in the process of building its own HSR network, but it has had a few setbacks - mostly related to land easements. Most of the national US passenger rail network (Amtrak) must operate on tracks owned by freight companies, and because of the condition of the tracks (heavy wear and tear, lots of at-grade intersections, etc), the Amtrak trains have a maximum speed of only 79 mph (~130 km/h) in most places, even though the trains themselves can go much faster on passenger-rail grade tracks. Even on the Acela route, the train only reaches its maximum cruising speed through parts of Maryland, New Jersey and Massachusetts. The stretch from New York City to Rhode Island has lots of tight curves that prevent the train from going much faster than a regular Amtrak train.
If trains were better than airlines, the U.S. would have them. We have "high speed" elevators that go 100 floors in a minute because they are better than stairs. But we're not going to put "high speed" elevators in buildings that less than 50 stories because it's not economical. We are planning true high speed lines here and there, places that have high traffic, such as Miami to Orlando, Las Vegas to Anaheim, and Dallas to Houston, but that's about it.
@DavideMozzanica Operational speed of TGV in France is 200 mph, that means NYC to DC in about one hour. High speed rail requires dedicated new tracks so having dismantled low speed tracks isn't really relevant. The distance between US cities on the Eastern half of the country is actually pretty optimal for high speed rail, similar to Spain or France, the 2 countries with the most extensive networks in Europe. Remote cities being separated by vast emptyness is actually the best layout for HSR.
The real reason why the US hasn't built HSR is because it's an oil-producing country, in which gas was historically cheap, having built entire industries around cars and planes. Only 1.2% of the US rail network is even electrified. European countries don't produce any oil, being entirely dependent on foreign imports which damage their sovereignty, so they pushed earlier for other alternatives.
Sorry about that, still think in the old imperial way!
The speed differences are due to differing national conditions.
France basically is mostly empty outside of the Île de France ... so a lot of Fly-over departements, just prefering to skip on the wings for their "TGV airplanes".
Germany meanwhile is extremely decentralised, with 11 metropolitan regions spread out over the country. There just isn't enough distance between them to accelerate and brake if you'd try to go faster than 320kmh / 200mph.
Spain, the country with the most kilometers of high-speed train in Europe
They invested the german money quiet well.
@@dirkmeier5115 Germans are not stupid and they don't give away money
@@dirkmeier5115 Are you from latin america????? :)
Contrary to what we often hear in the US, a dense country with many cities close to another isn't the best layout for high speed rail. The best one is about cities separated by several hundreds of kilometers of relative emptyness, as can be found in Spain or France. That's also how it is on the Eastern half of the US, which would actually be quite optimal for high speed rail.
Germans are not stupid and they don't give away money
Must not forget! The U.S. has loads of uncontrolled road crossings, not dedicated rail lines with crossings going over or under like in Europe.
It was the same in Europe but with high-speed trains we had to create dedicated lines.
Yeah, when I saw a video about Brightline in Florida, i was baffled to see them having to deal with random crossings and bad drivers.
@@walkir2662 It's not like these crossings weren't there before. It's stupid drivers being self-harmlingly stupid.
Subbed, love your reactions! Love how respectful you are, taking reality as it is, love to America!
I just like the fact that ryan and the first guy had the same reaction he sad "Ach du Scheiße!" wich ruffly means "holy shit" ore "Oh Shit!"
The US has less kilometers of high speed rail than Uzbekistan which is 22 times smaller than the US and on place 72 in GDP ranking.
I took the uzbek high speed train last month between Buchara and Tashkent. Most of the time, the trains runs 160 km/h or less. Only for a short period, it accelerated until 220 km/h. The tracks are not very good an there are lots of vibrations and noise.
The U.S. is #1 in GDP, which tells you America could afford high speed rail if it wanted them. There must be other factors than money that rules out the benefit of high speed trains. America has put men on the moon. Uzbekistan's high speed rail route is their national achievement.
Some trains are basically 2 trains attached to each others, some are just 1. But cargo trains in europe are also long, maybe not as long as in the US but cargo is cargo i guess
2:46 definitely Spain. But not sure which part
Train AVE (ALTA VELOCIDAD ESPAÑOLA - HIGH SPANISH SPEED) line Madrid - Valencia, over the Contreras Reservoir at Villargordo del Cabriel in the province of Valencia.
Reduces speed on this section and it ranges between 260 - 280 km/h (162,5 - 175 MPH) for safety reasons.
I've been singing the praises of high speed rail for years, it's a great way to travel, very civilised. I've travelled throughout Europe on these wonderful machines, if you ever get the chance do it, you won't be disappointed!
I've travelled on AVE HST's from Valencia to Madrid. Normal journey time for the 240 mile trip is around just under 2 hours, so an AVERAGE speed of 120mph. The speedo in the carriage hit 300kph... The ride is smooth as silk btw, and internal noise pretty much non existent
In france, a trip from Paris to Vendome would take nearly 3 hours by car but only 45 minutes bur fast train { TGV }- And the cost was 49 euros.
People in 1890: human body can't survive higher speed than 50 miles per hour. 🙂
Right 😂
During the summer I travelled from Perpignan close to the Spanish border in France to London. I had to change from the TGV to a Eurostar in Paris, involving a two-station trip on the Paris Metro. The total journey, door to door was faster than doing the journey by plane.
Trains in America are so long because there is little traffic and you have to take advantage of carrying as much cargo as possible on each trip. Here in Europe the traffic is constant. On the other hand, a convoy that is too long causes structural problems that are especially noticeable on curves. I have seen some videos of trains in America that derail at very low speed and without any apparent cause to explain it. The tail cars simply started to come off the tracks.
yep, mass cargo, instead of mass transit.
Cargo trains are longer than passenger trains in Europe as well. How long they can get is limited by the infrastructure. The EU has set the goal of enabling 740 m long cargo trains across most of the network. Limits are set by passing stations, where slower freight trains pull to the side to let faster passenger trains pass them, but also by marshalling yards and freight terminals.
@@aphextwin5712 I live just 100 metres from a railway line. The vast majority of freight trains run at night. And yes, they are considerably longer than passenger trains. If the EU is planning to increase the length of trains, it is surely counting on the good condition of the rails on the European network. If we look online for images of the condition of many lines in America, the strange thing is that there are not more accidents.
1:53 this is ED250 "pendolino" and his max speed is 293 km/h but in this video train is going 200 ~ 250 km/h
I'd guess 200 km/h, 250 requires ETCS level 2, which is being installed right now on CMK route
Ryan is happy like a child watching those big machine darting through the screen.... and so I am. Something I think everyone around the world can agree. Big powerful machines are COOL.
3:40 : that's kind of what happen. High speed trains are usually designed to have a fixed number of cars, or very little variation. So when you need more room, you put one or more "units" together.
This is also used for the case where the train share a common departure station but different arrival ones : the trains start together but at some point in a station they will be decoupled and each part will go to their destination. And of course the opposite happen as well, when the two trains come back, they are attached so they travel together to the destination.
7:20 : the difference are : weaker economies (ransacked by the Soviet Union for 40 years and still recovering), smaller populations (Only 4 countries in "Eastern Europe" (it's more line Central and Southern Europe) have a population over 10 millions : Poland, Romania, Ukraine, and the Czech Republic) and smaller territories. Those mean that those countries can't afford to built high speed lines, which are more costly to built and maintain than regular lines, or, they can afford it but never get benefits because there would be too little use.
There is a line planned between Budapest and Athens that would link several capitals to hte rest of the European high speed line however.
The Trans-European Transport Network (TEN-T) is supposed to fix part of that, including a highspeed rail connection Finland-Estonia-Latvia-Lithuania-Poland-Germany-Netherlands/Belgium (and includiong undersea rail tunnels at least between Germany and Denmark). Unfortunately for infrastructure development, Germany is right in teh middle of Europe, giving our NIMBYs WAY too much power....
The older one is a Swedish X2000 which entered service in 1990. Top speed is about the same as on the Northeast Corridor in the US at the time
If you had these in the States, it would be quicker than flying!
Después de japon, España es el país con la Red más grande de trenes, las infraestructuras de España son las mejores de Europa, Obama quedó impresionado en su visita a España
The fundamental difference between European (and UK) versus the US Railways is prioritisation, the US has long since prioritised freight, goods or minerals traffic, whereas in Europe it's passengers. Thus the infrastructure is focused that way, Europe has multiple lines in trunk routes, single track lines are only found in the remote areas, and passing loops are placed in regular spacing; in the US there are vast spans of single tracks, passing loops and sidings are used to allow freight to pass around the passengers.
Then the tracks are generally continuous in Europe, rather than plated together in US, Europe runs at speeds of between 120 and 200 mph, the US would be lucky to average 90 mph between cities.
The key difference is that the government does not even own the tracks in the US. The freight companies do.
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@@to_loww Neither in the EU. In the past the railroads were State owned but there have been a big push for privatization in the early 2000s' under Barroso at the helm of the EU Commission.
I cannot speak for all EU countries but often the rail system is owned by a private company and other companies operates the train lines (trains themselves, ticket sales,...), often with state participation in the capital and supervision.
Edit : I'm wrong, check the reply of to-loww, below.
@@19Murad77 Not really. The UK and Estonia tried that once and is was a disaster, that was soon reversed. They may have corporate governance (like DB Netz until recently) but are still state-owned.
Some states have outsourced their infrastructure in order to feign lower national debt, but again, without giving up control or ownership.
The closest thing we probably have to privatised rail infrastructure is GySEV which is partly owned by Strabag SE.
@@to_loww You are right.
I thought Infrabel in Belgium for instance was mostly privatized but the State still hold 60% of the voting rights.
Thanks for the head up.
When I worked on British Rail in the late 1980s the standing instruction for trackside staff working on 125mph lines was to keep at least 6ft away from the track.
2 trains together is double traction...
an ICE 4 is close to 1/4 mile long, with nearly 1000 seats,
2 sets combined are 1/2 mile....
its the max length of German train station platform!
You can not combine two ICE4's. Only the 7 Cabs long ones. So you will get 410m rounded up. Just like the ICE 3. Grüße von einem ICE Triebfahrzeugführer :)
The 1st one, where you first asked "how fast is he going" was an ICE that goes up to 300 kilometers per hour. and in the train it's totally smooth. you only recognize the speed if you look at the speed displays.
And the High Speed trains are not towing. They are just linked. at least every locomotive and often every car is powered.
The 570 kilometers per hour from the shortened TGV (Last clip with the cheering people) is a record thing with a modified train without passenger cars on a relatively straight track section. As far as I know still the fastest "conventional" train. Only record attempts with maglev are even faster
The London 'toob' is faster than Amtrak.
But looking at that map the UK is almost devoid of high speed train lines.
@@flitsertheo Not for want of trying. It's complicated, controversial and expensive. It will eventually be simpler and more cost effective to build ours entirely underground.
UK intercity trains hit 125mph (201km/h) the European Union defins high speed rail as speeds in excess off 200km/h so depending how you count it it might just scrape by @flitsertheo
When I first went on the German ICE train to Cologne from Utrecht in 1999 I was fascinated by the kph readout showing it going as fast as a plane! Also the super comfortable seats even in 2nd class , a headphone socket to plug in your earphones and the space-age WC with sliding doors like Star Trek.
America is still in the dark ages when it comes to high speed railways
Most of these trains are EMU's (Electric Multiple Units) These are double ended (a driving cab at both ends) and are made up of a set number of carriages, for example, 5, 6 or 8, that make up a complete unit, and can travel in either direction without the need to switch a locomotive from end to end. Two or more multiple units can be coupled together to make longer trains. You can get situations, here in the UK at least, where multiple units can be added or subtracted from the train during its journey to serve different destinations. This only takes a minute or so for the trains I'm familiar with. Passenger trains hauled by a separate locomotive are something rarely if ever seen now in the UK, and I believe not in Europe either, except possibly in a few East European countries.
DMU's (Diesel Multiple Units) exist as well, and to your eyes may not look much different to the EMU's, only the lack of the pantograph, (power pick up) or the sound tells you they are different. There are even some trains in the UK that use both electric and diesel traction depending where they are, not all lines being electrified for the whole route.
The fastest train in the UK is the Eurostar that travels from London St Pancras Station via the Channel Tunnel to Paris.
Regarding multiple units:
1. unlike loco-hauled trains, which have only powered bogies under the locos, multiple units have distributed traction across the entire train. This means better acceleration and less axle loads -> less track wear.
2. another concept is the wing train, having two different destinations. In Germany, a double set is running from Munich to Hanover, where the train is split in a front part going to Hamburg and a rear part going to Bremen.
France started it all in Europe with the 300km/h TGV in 1982 (top of my head) to connect Paris to Lyon, the 2nd biggest city. That captured the imagination of course, they looked fast standing still too. France likes big projects, has the centralist authoritarian government to just do it, and a huge area in the middle of the country where not much is going on while it's relatively flat.
Authoritarian is not really an appropriate word but yeah the central government is very powerful and used to be even more between the 1960's and 1980's. France has a really big engineering and especially civil engineering tradition, engineering schools are numerous, they are their own world and produce among the most influencial personalities, for better or for worse. Engineers having a lot of power can lead to projects like the Concorde that are engineering marvels but economic disasters. France also has a tradition of powerful centralized (state-owned) companies on technical matters like the SNCF (train), EDF (electricity) and many others that not longer exist...
This is one of the reasons why we have a lot of strikes (especially train strikes), as the modern French society was built by state-owned organisations without competition and that is opposite of what the EU project is about : a free-market economy with the competition as a motto. States are really restricted in certain sectors, cannot invest if it threatens the competition. The competition also has to be EU-wide, not only national. Public purchases above a certain amount have to be accessible companies throughout all the EU. That is to make more real the idea that the EU is the world's biggest market, for more efficiency and scale economies, like what the US benefited from to get to where they are today.
But that doesn't come without tensions when this ideology is faced with the reality of societies that have always functionned a different way. I don't really know if one way is better than the other. I think it really depends on the (geo)political and economical context.
@@noefillon1749 Authoritative is maybe more appropriate, but it's all relative. France has also a big private engineering tradition, from the zenith of the industrial revolution to Bugatti and Citroen. I'm not an EU fan at all, and it's free market policy is not about getting things done but about shareholder ROI. I like free markets but some great things can only happen with greater plans than just making money and with unity and leadership.
I don't believe privatizing things like railways, energy grids and postal services have done countries much good. The EU also failed massively in getting international rail work well, instead it made sure the climate destroying air travel became really cheap.
@@noefillon1749I think ‘dirigiste’ is proper word here.
It was in 1981, the 1st true HST line in Europe, world speed record on rails 380 kph (1981), 515 kph (1990), 574 kph (2007).
@@DenUitvreter I you'd like, can you give more detail about the international rail thing? I'm don't really know what you refer to and I'm not sure how you could say EU has failed it when it's a currently being worked on.
About the electricity I don't really know much but from what I heard, the situation is somewhat different from the railways. Regarding the railways, the rails are not under competition. The services are. That changes much. I think those who will benefit from the competition are the main cities with HSR : Paris, Lyon, Lille, Marseille, Bordeaux, Strasbourg and soon, Toulouse. These routes could benefit from increased competition, more trains and lower fares. Less profitable routes might see their services be reduced and prices raised by the SNCF which used to compensate their losses with gains from profitable routes but which will be forced to lower its prices on those routes and may be lose market share. I'm talking about TGV/Ouigo, in summary commercial services. Regional trains are public service and are in a totally different situation.
The advantage is that after all the most profitable routes are profitable because they service more people. It's a question of efficiency and how many trains there are as a whole. But that means we assume increased territorial inequality. It's often the same underlying question with social policy and public involvement in the economy : how much inequality do we tolerate for the sake of efficiency and geopolitical relevance. This question is not universal, in some cases the market gives inefficient AND unfair results, but in many cases I think this is the actual question
The noise when the train wagons pass by is made by the wind vortexes that form between each train wagon.
The last "boom" is the final vortex that is done on the end nose (in that case) where the air is being pulled down onto the tracks and has this "blast" effect when hitting the rail blocks.
It's how aerodynamics works. How air travels alongside the train, as it's being pushed very fast and somewhat compressed into a smaller space for a few moments.
Different shapes will produce different sounds. That's why on the second train you noticed that, the spaces between the train wagons are, not only smaller, but of a different shape.
The "last car" @1:40 was an electric locomotive not a caboose. lol
Edit: We don't have cabooses in Europe [well def not in the UK/Germany].
Cargo trains are usually longer [for the cost/profit margin] and are not the same a passneger trains.
If we had a population of China/India, then maybe longer passenger trains would be the norm. But we have frequency too.
"cabeese". A small one is called a "cabosling"
@@quantisedspace7047 Hey einstein. I'm speaking ENGLISH so it's a CABOOSE!
We don't have them in the UK anyway, we have 'guard's van'.
Edit: Plural = cabooses.
Soome years agoI remember seeing the French TGV for the first time. They have counter weights on the overhead pick-up wire. These start bouncing, before you even see a train, and the bounce gets more and more unti the train passes they're bouncing 10 feet in the air. It's caused by the bow wave of the pantagrraph pick-up on the wire. Amazing!!!
Last train 570km/H = 345 miles per hour (first video)
The Last one was from SNCF in French
@Marco-zt6fz the train is a TGV (High speed train in French). The Sncf is the french company in charge of train traffic.
@@Marco-zt6fz I was talking about the TGV. I am not sure but at that time is was a world record.
@@daphnelovesL still is a world record for conventional train speed record
I love trains. I dropped one of my sons off at Milton Keynes train station last year and me and my other son (we’re both on the spectrum) decided to wait for the next non-stop train to come through the station. MK is on the main line to and from London. Some trains to and from London don’t stop there. Anyway the next one came through, we were standing on the platform and it scared the crap out of us!! Btw the joy in your face as you watched was lovely ☺️
5:38 is the TGV-s speed record run, it wasn't hauling passangers then :) (It was sightly modified)
légèrement ? :p
@@athrunzala6770 the chassis was resembling the original at least :D
@@opalrx7 It's a bit like that lol but the locomotive still runs today ^^
You and Sheldon, Ryan - you and Sheldon ;) It´s cool to see the thrill you get out of this video. I´ve never seen or taken a high-speed train myself, but I´m used to electrical trains, so maybe the lack of engine noises is a part of it? Now, if you look at the engineering side, there´s a lot to be exited about - these things are HEAVY! And they travel at speeds that most people would only adhere to dragsters or airplanes. They also lean through the curves, so as a passenger you won´t feel the centrifugal forces.
Wish we had these in Australia it would get us around
I went from Dusseldorf to Hamburg on one of these once and they are a very smooth ride, it's crazy seeing how fast the word goes by.
It’s very convenient when you have to travel 2 to 500 miles. It goes from city center to city center so you save the commuting time to the airport. You don’t have security check or luggage to register, you can simply jump in and out. And another nice thing is that you can move freely in the train, go to the bar, etc. For longer distance, the plane makes more sense.
The last one of the video was the world record of the TGV, about 574,8 km/h, it was run on a new line before it's commercial opening.
At the end by the cheapest they mean low cost high speed rail service. The company is called Ouigo its a sister company of SNCF the French train operator, its all 2nd class seating unlike the SNCF that they have first class too. The tickets are about 12-15 usd per person
They go at different speeds depending on the line speed/signal aspect/if they just set off from/or slowing down for a station etc.
So some will be 'slower' than others.
Edit: Sometimes they add units together [hence the 'pulling the other unit'] and split them later.
The last one was a French TGV world record test train.
That last train on the main video was the world rail speed record being set on a modified (and shortened) French TGV train on 3rd April 2007 - 574.8 km/h (357.2 mph).
Trains are usually equipped with as much train cars as they need/expect. Depending on time, they have different amount of them.
This video reminded me of the musical Starlight Express, it's about trains racing each other in a child's dream and it's also something you could react to since its version in Bochum, Germany holds the world record as the longest running play in one place (since 1988)
I finally rode HSR a couple of months ago and crossed off another item from bucket list. I must tell you, it is more impressive seeing it from the outside, riding it so smooth you can't grasp out fast you are going. And, another fact, a lot of the trackway has brush and trees growing next to it, so all you see is a green blur. I spent a month traveling Europe and took HPR from Amsterdam to Brussels, Brussels to Paris, Paris-Lyon round trip and the Eurostar to London. And slower trains from Budapest-Vienna, Vienna- Prague, Prague-Berlin, Berlin-Amsterdam.
The german ICE (Intercity express) has a peak of 300 km/h or 186.4 mph. same speed as the Eurostar which only purpose it is to connect europs biggest and most famous cities without unneccessary stops in between. you can travel from paris to london in less than 2 1/2 hours.
There is cargo, or freight that runs on many lines.
Best for me is seeing friegght on the tube.
Not so frequent but it’s a real treat
That was much cooler than I was expecting!
What's more impressive than the high speed is the number of connections and the frequency.
It's worth getting an all Europe train ticket to explore Europe by just getting on a train to somewhere, stay for a few days, then get on the train to somewhere else, in a different country.
And you don't have to go through airport check-in, security and all that. Just turn up, get on the train and go.
English here. I have had the privilege of going on the sncf tgv. Its amazing. One of the cars had a soft play area for children free of charge. And thfe food was good.
By the way, I just saw one Spanish train in this video🥲 At least we have the second largest High-Speed Rail network in the world🤗
i've seen more, but the video is fast... not only the trains LOL 😉
My friend saw a man in the UK standing to close to the edge of train platform and he was drunk, my friend said to the man " Don't stand too close to the edge the train will suck you off " and the the man laughed and said " Come on train " that's a true story. Also years ago when you could open train windows I saw a friend on a school trip sticking his head out the window of a train, I said to him " Don't do that if a train comes the other way it will take your head off " and he said " Don't worry I will see the train coming " there is no telling some people, you can see how fast trains go when you see the train coming after you stick your head out of the window that's the moment it's taking your head off.
We have long freight trains too, but they don't travel so fast. Passenger trains are often long and often double deckers! The station platforms, here in France anyway, are marked out exactly where individual carriages draw to a halt.
Most people park their cars and then board the trains as it’s quick and gets them into work in the cities. Same on way home as you would have a long walk home. It’s called park and ride so look it up.
The Channel Tunnel Train, the Class 373 that inaugurated the service from London to Paris, was 387 metres. At a max speed of 300 km/h, it passes a single point in 4.64 seconds
class 373 aka tgv tmst
I travelled on the TGV from Avignon to Paris in 1986. It was quick, the restaurant car is great, but I don't think they liked the English very much, even though I'm fluent in Froglish. 😊
The food was excellent and the wine went down well. Excellent selection of cheeses.
At full speed the air bangs when the train goes under a bridge. It was an experience, especially compared to British Rail on journey from Dover to London. No munchies at all. 🇬🇧
France is a small country in the middle of Europe and thanks to our TGV, we travel very fast by train inside our country but also to Spain, Swiss, London, Germany, Italy, Belgium and Netherlands. These trains are fast, comfy and you are in the middle of the city to take it, so it’s perfect to travel fast and easily. In a country as huge as USA, the plane seemed to be the best option but i think that in the eastern coast, a fast train would be very nice to link the big cities
Fun fact: It's *not* an "ice" train, noone in Germany calls it that. It's an acronym for Inter City Express and hence it is pronounced I.C.E., just like americans would say U.F.O. instead of "Ufo"...
America is a 100 years behind the world in rail travel🇦🇺😂
The blue/silver, with yellow stripe, is the Eurostar, which runs between London/Paris, also London/Brussels (stopping at Lille en route). They have about 18 coaches. From any of those you can get connections to just about anywhere in Europe using high speed or regular services. They need dedicated platforms, as most others generally accommodate up to about 10.
I came back from Paris yesterday, absolutely loved it, and it took 20 minutes in the tunnel, which includes a few miles either end, before the English Channel, to allow for descent/ascent, so maybe about 15 mins under the water. Cool! You definitely have to try it, have to admit trains are my passion. I'm sure you can see the potential for high speed rail in the US, (or 'any' kind, come to that!).
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