Number 1 is gonna be Wesker. There's no way it ain't. *He's an honorable mention* WHAT!? Ok, who could POSSIBLY be worse than Wesker, Terumi, AND FLOWEY!? *Actual number 1* ...That woman is one of the most evil and irredeemable characters I've ever seen.
TBH I thought Cyrus having a Crobat may have been a hint at how detached he was, that he was able to fake emotions well enough to Max his Crobat's friendship
Where the heck is that little clip in the Cyrus portion from? Tge part with tge "And, you fond enjoyment in this?", "Oh, no, I'm feeling absolutely nothing as I'm saying this." Lines
Using Dimentio as the transition was perfect, that guy was an absolute menace. Turned a friendly dragon against you, manipulated his coworkers, and tried to destroy the universe all in the one game he was featured in.
It's so funny how you compared Manfred von Karma to if Freeza was a lawyer, since Freeza was based off scummy real estate speculators during the Japanese economic bubble of the 80s.
NUMBER. ONE. I thought Cyrus was an omnicidal maniac, but GEEEEEZZZZZ did Julia Salisbury have him beat! Props for her actor for portraying such a heartless monster.
If she were a real dictator in history, her actions would rank her high on the list of most evil leaders in history. Up there with Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Castro- possibly even higher than Castro.
For reference, the country of South Sudan has about 14.7 million people. If she were to target that nation only, Julia would have sent the 74th most populous nation to 160th, the same level as Guyana, minimum! Not to mention erase countries like Greece, Sweden, and Belgium.
BTW Depending on your choices in one of the At Home sections early on in the game...... One of those 14 Million Casualties can be one of Alex's (The Player Character) Kids
Manfred Von Karma couldn’t have the bullet removed from his shoulder because it would likely have been turned over to the authorities, and eventually be matched to the bullet extracted from Gregory Edgeworth. Plus, it would leave a doctor as a witness to testify if he was ever brought to trial for DL-6. For Von Karma, It was either implicate himself now, or implicate himself later. And because of the statute of limitations on murder, he chose later. He was playing the long game, counting on the statute of limitations expiring on DL-6 before having the bullet removed. It was purely logical on his end…. He really did commit the perfect crime. He just didn’t account for the protagonist.
20:50 missed opportunity to play a hunter the parenting audio clip: "WAIT HOW ON EARTH ARE YOU 27 YEARS OLD!??" "MY DAY JOB WAS STRESSFULL AND ALSO I HAVE PSORIASIS WHAT DO YOU WANT???"
I've always seen the difference between sociopaths and psychopaths as such: Sociopaths are fully aware that what they do is wrong, they just simply do not care Psychopaths have no moral compass whatsoever and cannot tell the difference between right and wrong Is there more nuance than that, or might I just be wrong altogether?
You’re not wrong. Manfred von Karma is a psychopath who killed his courtroom rival for “tarnishing” his perfect record, playing the long con to destroy his rival’s son (Edgeworth was responsible for von Karma getting shot by a stray bullet), and coercing a former suspect into helping frame his last target of hatred, meanwhile ignoring his very talented daughter. Dahlia Hawthorn is a sociopath who loved no one, knew what she was doing was evil, framed others for her crimes, and killed anyone who she felt was getting in her way. Not even family mattered to her, nor having any love interests could stop her from going down an extremely dark path.
The funny thing is that for No. 2, he’s also in BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle who you can pair with Idachi (who was No. 10) so you can have 2 playable psychopaths as a team. Jesus. I can see how No. 1 got the spot. That is a legitimately scary villain.
@@macaylacayton2915 Vaas was a psychopath adjacent, I'm pretty sure. He also vehemently denied being insane, and was calling the Player Character, or at least the situation they created- insane. Because they kept coming back, and he kept trying to get rid of them in different ways. Vaas was just loud, not insane.
10. The scary truth is psychopaths are sometimes so hard to spot you never know till it’s too late, often hiding behind their likable facade. 9. Hmm, a murder who kills for the sake of art? I wonder if he took an art class with Art The Clown or a drama class with a theater villain from a recognizable franchise *(try guessing).* 8. Now, I've met bullies before, but this is just ridiculous. 7. When I called karma a b!tch, this guy only proved me right. 6. Boy Howdy, I never hated a rich psychopath as hateable as Reaver. 5. Cyrus is a monster, and I wanna ask what Ari thinks of the psycho? 4. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, I hate this guy more than Cyril or Gilbert, and the worst part is Zephial's not above hurting or killing women and kids. 3. I saw this coming, and I still fear this flower. 2. Sheesh, it's villains like these who are behind everything that make me hate them for being the force to knock down the dominoes one by one. 1. You know how Fox Channel News is based on deception, hubris, lies, and bias? Well, this lady wipes her butt with Fox and every real-life politician.
If by lies, deception, hubris, and bias, you mean NOT taking the line that the progressive line is completely infallible, and that conservative movements are about egotistical apathy and/or malice (the implicit line that is the lie, deception, hubris, and bias of the other major networks).
1: Corrupt politician. That´s a good number 1 2: Does not really care of how his actions affects other and enjoys misery 3: Consequence of having no soul 5: Intresting how many emotionless villains there are in Pokemon and he really is one of them 6: Another narcissistic psycopath 7: The narcissistic psycopath. 9: Have not played Lol for a long time 10: The incel psycopath. I like though the fact there´s no broader reason for his actions, just boredom and wanting to have some fun. Nice list. Some other choices I can think of are Dr Regal, Shido, Kazuya Mishima or Bryan Fury, Vholran and Majora
Cyrus isn't even emotionless. He represses himself severely but he very much not only has emotions, but very strong ones. I got the impression from his last scene in Platinum that total repression is the only way he can control them.
Wait I thought it was the other way around. With sociopaths being extremely good liars and actors since they don’t feel the kinds of things that would give away lying?
One thing: Hazama and Terumi are two different characters. Hazama was created as an artificial human to contain Terumi’s soul and act as his hiding place while he spins his plans, but he has his own personality and goals separate from his passenger’s. In fact, as of Central Fiction, they’ve been separated into two bodies. Hazama’s a cruel evil fun troll too, but he’s not even half as bad as Terumi.
Having played Not For Broadcast this year, I agree Julia deserves the top spot. Especially since one career psychopaths IRL gravitate towards to is politics (and being a lawyer, which was Julia's prior career before going into politics). So yeah, unlike a majority of characters on the list, people like Julia actually exist.
I think the best way to describe the No.1 pick is this. She would do literally everything everyone else on the list would do if she had the chance to do so.
I've seen several people say Junko doesn't count for various reasons. I love Josh, but I gotta disagree here. I know he's not super familiar with the secondary material in the series. 1. Junko's 'insane' antics are not real. Monokuma is not her real self either. She puts on quite a few personalitys and switches constantly to keep herself from getting bored and to keep her foes on edge. On the rare occasions we see the 'real' Junko, she's just as cold and detached as what you're looking for. 2. Yes she was born this way. She herself confirms 'she cried tears of total despair' when she was born(and yes, she can remember it). And Danganronpa 0 confirms she was manipulating people and poisoning adults as a Toddler. Also she sent Mukuro off to train to be her personal attack dog when they were 8/9 years old. 3. Junko acts as 'extra' as she does in the games because by that point she's already won, and most of those people no longer remember her anyway. We see her facade active fully in Danganronpa 3, where she wins and succeeds in ending the world using what she stole from Mitarai and Matsuda. And in DR0 we see how she ruined Matsuda's life to turn him into a loyal asset and then engineered the worst possible ending for him with Ryoko. And in DR-IF, she drops the act while talking to Mukuro, and even Mukuro is caught off guard at just what her sister is really like. I believe you've said before you've only played the games once and never saw DR3(Not V3 the non-canon game, 3 the anime that follows up on 2's ending in the future arc and explains what happened before DR1 in the despair arc), and yeah on a first playthrough if you don't play close attention I can see her being mistaken for just 'crazy'
Yeah Josh fell for Junko's 'crazy girl' acting. The real Junko is utterly cold, ruthless, wants nothing more than to make all of humanity suffer for her own pleasure. Most notably a scene midway through Danganronpa IF: The Button of Hope and The Tragic Warriors of Despair, where Mukuro is trying to talk to her Sister to reason their next move. Junko just completely drops the act and is completely unfeeling, just tells her sister it's time for her to die and she'll enjoy it.
I get leaving Vaas and Kefka off the list(Vaas is completely out to lunch and while Kefka was always a POS what happened to him made it worse), but Junko is not crazy or insane. She puts up personality’s to entertain herself. She is very much a psychopath and she gets worse and worse the closer you look at her. Her true personality fits the cold and uncaring qualified to a tee
@@macaylacayton2915 Kefka is honestly probably both Psychopathic and Psychotic. He was always a bad person and a monster, but what happened to him ended up making him far worse and more unhinged.
She doesn't deserve to be on the list anyway. It's baffling that he likes Junko and hates Tsumugi when Junko is worse than Tsumugi in basically every way
In the case of number 1, especially since I played Not for Broadcast, it's freaking ironic that I enjoyed Peter Clement a lot more. His drunken antics, his sailor mouth, and his temper towards certain situations. At least he was himself, which is more than I can say about miss Salisbury steak. Shoot, given the choices you make in the game, one of the people that dies in the explosion could be your own daughter. Christ!
Not only is Peter a lot more fun but you get the sense he is a decent man with issues but is genuine in wanting to take from the rich and privilege to give back to the common people
Little shocked William Afton didn’t show up on this list. Dude’s favorite pastime was kidnapping little kids, killing them, and stuffing their corpses in animatronics.
How did The Dark Urge not make this list and Cazador did? I love how The Dark Urge origin puts the role of psychopath in YOUR hands to decide how to go about it. While it's fun to fully sink into the evil impulses of the route, I prefer the redemption path because I think it's a good portrayal of struggling against the psychopath within yourself rather than a separate entity.
The Dark Urge can be stopped or held at bay for a while. Cazador willfully enslaves and tortures his thralls, causing a ton of mental, physical and emotional damage to them. Just ask Astarion how he lived under Cazador’s control.
Never, in my LIFE, would i think Not For Broadcast would top one of your lists, let alone be on your radar! Applause for still managing to surprise us after all these years!
I think Xemnas still could have worked. I hold that what 3D revealed doesn't change how Ansem SOD and Xemnas were in their respective games. They may have been subtly guided by what Xehanort wanted, but their own desires and personalities drove them forward without realizing the ultimate goal until they were called to the future. And once they realized the truth, they just went along with it rather than have everything they worked for be crushed by the harsh truth of them being manipulated.
Yeah or They’re just as big of POS as their original self because Xemnas was ALWAYS lying about the organization’s goal. Regardless of whether you see the goal of organization 13 as a retcon. Xemnas was always lying to them about getting their Hearts Back. The KH2 Ultimania Think his personal goal for kingdom hearts were to become a godlike entity and remake the world which again isn’t that far off from what his true self wanted. And he more or less says this at the end of two
Oh wow, didn't think I would ever see Not For Broadcast here! I played through it once and loved it, wish it had more players. It does have replayability, but man does it drag, it's not a short game. I mean it's not a bad thing, but with 14 different endings and one playthrough taking maybe 6 hours? Good luck, heh.
Every argument you could use against Junko would either also apply to other 'eccentric' psychopaths like Terumi or Flowey, or is disproven by the secondary media that delves into Junko's true personality.
@@whitethunder9064 look honestly you should see me in twitch integrated cult of the lamb streams. I’m basically Flowey in those cases because of how bored I am
I will say that I don’t fully agree with Junko not being on the list because she’s ‘crazy’. Her unhinged personality you said made her ‘insane’ is very clearly a facade to keep her from getting bored. So is Monokuma. We meet her true self at the end of the first game, very cold, very sterile, just wants to end the world for a quick bit of entertainment. The creator themself calls her one. Specifically, she's a Sadistic Psychopath(which despite which some of the other commenters think aren't completely different things, Sadistic Psychopaths are a thing, and no they aren't the same thing as sociopaths). And we actually know not only she was born that way, but we can pinpoint exactly why. She's a psychopath because of her talent, Ultimate Analyst. She's literally known everything that is going to happen since she was a baby, it makes her bored. Despair is not predictable. She's a sadist(and also a psychopath again) because of defects in the pleasure and pain part of her brain, though this is also contributing to the psychopathy. We can confirm these are both true because we have other cases. Hajime wasn't a psychopath, but after he got Ultimate Analysis and became Kamakura he absolutely was(he eventually pulled himself out of it, but that was after years of working with Junko and it's implied the fact he had the 'Ultimate Hope' talent in him alongside some remnants of Hajime is what saved him). Chisa wasn't a sadist or a psychopath until Junko played ice-pick lobotomy with her brain and messed with the part of her brain that's messed up. Then she was. In-fact this also implies that even without the talent mentioned above she'd still be a Psychopath. Chisa became both a sadist and a psychopath after the surgery, and was able to keep her head down and convince the whole future foundation everything was fine for years even as she was sabotaging their operations and occasionally murdering toddlers on the side for a quick laugh. She can also induce the latter with brainwashing(either long and slow like with Monaca or with stolen technology like Class 77), but that can be undone. What she did to Chisa was unfixable. Also, Junko feeling 'empathy' and wanting to share her despair with others because she thinks it's for the best? That's a lie she tells people like Mukuro or Monaca. Mukuro tries to talk to her on her level after her betrayal in Danganronpa IF and Junko after a bit of goofing around just drops the act entirely and tells Mukuro she's going to enjoy watching her die after seeing how much Mukuro still loves her. Speaking of DR-IF, there's a single line in there that confirms Junko was the one who ordered Mukuro to run away on a vacation when she was 9(Junko was 8 at the time), and that Junko was already planning to unleash despair upon the world at this point. So at least since she was 8. DR0 actually pushes that back further. Junko at Age 5 was working to manipulate her best friend, Matsuda, into becoming loyal and dependant on her. She did this by poisoning his mom to make her sickly and borderline-dementiac, and then gaslighting and manipulating him into losing her other friends. This is because Matsuda(alongside being an easy target like her sister) was already showing promise as a Neurological prodigy and thanks to her talent Junko could predict he'd grow up to be the best in the world. Matsuda is the one who gave Junko mind erasing technology, and it was the combination of his research and the animation techniques that she stole from Mitarai that would allow her to create both brainwashing videos and 'un-alive yourself' videos. If you think Junko is crazy, you've fallen for the facade she puts on to entertain herself and make people uncomfortable. If you think she's delusional and thinks despair is better for other people, you've fallen for the lie she tells her close followers like Mukuro, Matsuda, and Izuru Kamakura. Not even Mukuro truly understood Junko, that's the entire plot of DRIF. So using her words as evidence of her not being a psychopath is a bad idea.
I believe that Josh has his own philosophies for his countdowns. One of them being that he mostly keeps it to what's shown in games, usually main ones. I think that's what prevents Junko from being in. He generally doesn't include things that are on side-materials. That is why despite with his adoration and obsession with Kingdom Hearts, he'll nitpick the confusing storyline, because of the series' obsession in putting plot-important things in non-game materials. And well, most of the Junko psychopathy isn't from the games as mentioned... so for him, she does look more like a typical crazy.
@@ChrisX_212 Junko has barely an hour of screentime in the actual main series games, half that if you don't count the AI copy. About 40 minutes at the end of the first two games, mostly being intentionally confusing and deceitful to mess with the cast. Her real self has less than a minute of screentime. Basically everything we actually know about her that isn't third or fourth hand or a lie is from the side materials. Danganronpa Zero(Novel), Danganronpa IF(Novel), and the anime specifically.
@@macaylacayton2915 This is why I can explain why Josh excludes her. It clashes against his philosophies that a good storytelling in game means that one does not put a plot important point in a side material.
Shout out to the big bad from the fourth Ace Attorney game. Kristoph Gavin seriously stands out from other Ace Attorney villains, if only because of how strangely serious and seemingly calm he always looks. Basically take everything Josh said about Von Karma, and add the little extra ingredient of Black Psyche-locks As established in Dual Destinies, they only appear when someone is hiding a secret even they themselves aren't aware of. When asked about why he killed the victim from the first case, who turned out to be a defendant that dismissed him in an earlier case in favor of Phoenix, Black Psyche-locks appear on Kristoph. The general consensus is that these locks appeared because Kristoph is so far gone, that through his own ego and arrogance, he convinced himself that he did nothing wrong. Von Karma's a pretty good choice too, if only because his presence throughout the series is greater, but I have to give props to Kristoph for being such an intensely rotten man, despite his brief appearance
"Okay, seriously, who could ever be a bigger psychopath than Terumi? They'd have to be like Hitler on Psycho Power!" ".... Sweet Baby Christ on French Toast!? What is Wrong with this woman?! You're making my Psycho Hitler analogy look like a Salvation Army Nun by comparison! I mean, My God!"
I was gonna say that Ghetsis should be here, but then I thought about how Cyrus is much more of a psychopath by the traditional definition. Ghetsis is definitely more cruel and evil, but Cyrus is definitely more of a psychopath
Josh. Editors. You've done it again! Gave everyone a number 1 that no one saw coming and delivered with great reasons why they deserve that spot. (Though then again can't really top a politician when it comes to psychotics am I right?)
18:24 funny enough Cyrus in the manga is the exact opposite of his game counterpart. Like game Cyrus manga Cyrus still sees the world as flawed but in contrast to the cliched game adaptation manga Cyrus sees the world as flawed BECAUSE of his lack of emotions. To describe manga Cyrus you could say that he’s a man with two key interests. The complexity of machinery and ancient history. He learned and was enamored with the origins of sinnoh specifically of the lake trios concept of wisdom will and emotion. However due to this and his aforementioned lack of emotion he saw the world as incomplete, always lacking in one of the three concepts so his entire ambition was to remake the world so it could be whole embodying all three concepts once again for peace. It wasn’t until the climax and aftermath of the Diamond and Pearl arc after witnessing the three main characters embodying all three aspects (dia for emotion, pearl for will, and platina for wisdom) Cyrus comes to his conclusion that even if the individual is incompleteone can feel completion when surrounded by others who care for you. Another contrast between game and manga Cyrus is their impression of giratina. While game Cyrus was enamored by the antimatter Pokémon manga Cyrus rejected it as an affront to his desire of completion almost acting like the empty void he wishes to fill.
@@macaylacayton2915 what so the anime gets a free pass for recognition by piggybacking off of the games, but the manga that has been in circulation for as long as the game and anime series despite only having a fraction of the support or recognition while simultaneously providing their own stories can’t even be acknowledged for the actual legitimate creativity that goes into their writing.
Ok so you SPECIFICALLY mean the Adventures manga and not, say, DPA or whatever. But even there he isn't emotionless, and even comes to feel such strong gratitude that he attracts the attention of Shaymin.
@@lunerblade13 Anime Cyrus is a bastardization to the point where I have to question if the writers even bothered to play the damn game. He had almost nothing to do with anything Cyrus believes in.
@@BJGvideos to be fair it’s more so that Cyrus believes that he is emotionless rather then being truly emotionless. It can be seen in the loyalty his admins give to him he just can’t see it for himself. It’s only until the platinum arc when he is forced in the distortion world on top of spending time with Dia that Cyrus beings to express himself more and undergo a revelation of self.
Having played Coffin of Andy and Leyley, I would have been appalled I'd they didn't make honorable mentions at minimum. Especially since they got started really early, and never quite improved.
Fun thing about Flowey, he gets even scarier in Undertale Yellow, where he is even more manipulative to Clover and gives an even more nightmarish final neutral fight in Meta Flowey. A fight that, according to what I heard, took an entire YEAR to code and animate!
Another fun fact about Cyrus in Masters, he has a soft spot for Sophocles and in a recent story he helped Sophocles and Penny with their new Pokemon PC. It's cute how he clearly likes Sophocles despite trying to keep neutral. It's why I like Masters so much, it fleshes out characters even more.
What scares me about *Not for Broadcast* (even though I've never played the game) is that the end scenario could actually happen in real life should the wrong people gain control of the government.
I truly believe that the last entry is there because of the fact that, through all the mysticism we see in video games, a villain that could realistically be in that position terrifies me, and presumably others.
28:14 I wouldn’t worry too much about that, Toby Fox hates making irredeemable psychopaths with no redeeming qualities. There’s a reason why Flowey was given a tragic past and was given redemption in the Pacifist Run.
@@judithmorgendorffer6106 no denying that. I’m just saying that Flowey is a redeemable psychopath, and Toby Fox hates making characters that are truly irredeemable.
It's sorta weird how Cyrus's great-great-great-grandma/ancestor, Cyllene was such a good woman. It's only proven by the fact that she basically helps the player out when everyone else is against them. No truly "bad" person would do that. Cyllene is truly good.
I like to give a mention to MAIK, the main villain from World's End Club a super computer and AI, that was created by the father from 1 of the main characters with the goal of solving world problems, like preserving the Earth's environment but through a simulation, MAIK determined that in order to do that, humans need to be stopped but instead of simply killing them, MAIK instead created a method to remove humanities emotions, and locked them away so that nature can return to normal
I don't know if, Adachi counts as a psychopath. Arena ultimax shows he actually cares about, Dojima to some extent. He basically roasts an officer for talking badly about him.
Yes however a Physcopath is someone incapable of empathizing or connecting with others. Adachi, however is capable of it he just chose not to. Like I said earlier arena ultimax showed he had some care for, Dojima and got genuinely angry when he was bad mouthed. If anything I think he fits more as a sociopath.
After hearing everything about the number 1 choice, I think we can agree that she is easily one of the coldest, cruelest, vilest, most evil, utterly irredeemable characters ever seen.
The idea of a person snapping and twisting his ideals to see himself in the right of doing the wrong and cruel acts any normal being would avoid is kind of intriguing. It makes you wonder if it was by design of the mind, the way the person was raised, or, perhaps, a more instinctive desire deep within? The mind is a curious thing, and we barely know how it ticks.
Here's another hidden gem Psychopath from gaming Dr. Angus Bumby, "Alice: Madness Returns" Bumby serves as Alice's therapist who helped her forget about her traumatic past about the fire that killed her family which may or may not be Alice's fault. But as she journies into her Wonderland, secrets have been revealed that it was actually Bumby who caused the fire, after he r&*#ed Alice's sister. So he used hypno therapy to help her forget everything to cover his tracks and if Alice attempted to remember she would feel guilt as she blamed herself for the burning of her home. If that wasn't horrible enough, he used the Foster Home for children he was working at to hypnotize children into mindless sex slaves. He felt no compassion for the youth, and only cared about making a living out of the lives of orphans. Even being confronted by Alice in the real world, Bumby admitted to it all including assaulting her sister brushing her off as a tease who wanted him at the end. Even after being told she will turn him in, Bumby confirmed no one will believe a former asylum patient over a therapist. So with no alternative, Alice pushed him infront of a train, avenging her family and ending his evil.
I would like to say out of pheonix wright I'll put Roger Retinz. since 1. He plotted the murder of his biggest fan, whom he spent years training. He could've carried Rogers legacy, but instead he was just a means to an end. 2. He didn't go after Phoenix's daughter, he wanted to crush everyone around her. By forging her signature to put her entire family into bankruptcy. 3. He Riled up and paid people to attack the wright agency. 4. At the very end he left satisfied all because he felt that as long as he tricked Trucy. That's all the satisfaction he needed before getting carried off to jail. All because he got hurt in his own stunt and was let go.
Okay, during the stream I was kinda going on a tangent about the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath. I discussed this with my father and he clarified it for me thus I wanted to clarify it for everyone else = Every Sociopath is a Psychopath in that they are mentally ill. However the key difference is that a Psychopath doesn't feel any guilt, remorse, empathy while a Sociopath can feel guilt, remorse and can care about a select few people in their life. Aka Josh did do the list correctly and I had them mixed up, therefore I apologize for any misunderstandings I may have caused, and my annoying behavior during the stream, and I hope this comment clears everything up.
Gonna assume you aren’t super familiar with Danganronpa lore. Junko is a creator confirmed psychopath. She’s cold and uncaring, she just puts on a looney persona to keep herself from getting bored. The spin-off materials (specifically the prequel novel Zero, the AU novel IF, and the DR3 anime) makes it clear what she is. She actually has a ton in common with Number 2 and Number 1, except The Tragedy killed more than half of humanity and destroyed all the pre-existing nation states. Julia could only hurt her own country.
She's still pretty over the top insane. Yeah she's cold, but she literally has no logic to her actions, there's a reason she outright says trying to understand her is pointless.
@@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 Being logical isn't actually a requirement to be a psychopath clinically, just being unfeeling and unemphatic. Sadistic Psychopaths exist along with Non-Sadistic Psychopaths. Pyschopaths can also have secondary mental health issues like substance abuse or even delusional disorders which combine to make things worse. Kefka honestly is both Psychopathic and Psychotic, born the former, made the latter. Junko's logic is she wants to maximise despair because it gets her off and is the only thing that keeps her from getting bored. She then proceeds to end the world and engineer a ton of horrific events. She's very similar to many ways to Julia and Terumi
@@kalkuttadrop6371 I always headcanoned Junko as like an embodiment of despair itself, akin to the grim reaper with death. Especially with all the goddess of despair talk in DR2. Instead of a mysterious rotting shadowy skeleton looming over you for the right time to strike she's an impossibly gorgeous and talented lady no one could hope to live up to. It would have been so cool if they leaned into that more with her poking at people's insecurities and making them spiral into hopelessness. They only really give you little tastes like the despair disease and the Warriors of Hope. It made Monaca much more of an imposing presence that we got to see some of those imprinted behaviors onscreen, because no one really takes Junko that seriously or cares to understand her ideology in the main games.
Eh, for Ace Attorney I would have gone for the true mastermind of Kenji 2: Simon Keyes. Not only he did exactly what Manfred did but in a bigger scale, but he also got everything he wanted as well. Knightley? Killed as planned. Patricia Roland? Arrested for the murder of Knightley, also as planned. Blaise Debeste? Arrested for the murder of Jill Crane, also as planned as well. And Di-Jung-Huang's body double? Killed on a lucky encounter. He not only managed to mastermind the entire game, but he also played a warden of a prison, a High Prossecutor and a President (the body double had arrange things so that he would be seen as the president of Zeng Fa) as his puppets. Even Miles Edgeworth was acting as planned! By the time Miles manages to catch him, he already won.
@@LunaP1 I mean, Matt barely did anything in his case and he was the villain of the last case only. Simon is the villain of an entire game and was behind 4 of the 5 cases.
I tried looking for more information about Julia and Not For Broadcast. There's 14 different endings yet not that much info on Julia. Whether she dies or not in any ending. Who's the main enemy in this game and is there a good ending? And what the hell is this game? So many endings, "episodes", and other stuff. Reading it online makes me feel like I'm reading Harry Potter and The Order of The Phoenix.
Ya know, Cyrus's plot in Masters EX sounds a lot like the Tsukinome Project from Naruto Shippuden. Trapping people in a world of dreams was exactly Madara's plan, after all.
Not going to lie, even though I have played the entry at Number 1; I did not expect it to appear on any sort of list, kudos to you for bringing it to a wider audience.
A sadist and a psychopath are different things a sadist takes joy in inflicting whatever trauma and pain onto others while a psychopath has no empathy or emotion in what they do
She's a weird case because she does things just to do them. Psychopaths tend to have some sort of goal, twisted as it may be, Junko just doesn't. She's more a force of nature than an actual written character
I’m glad to see Gary Smith from Bully got the pick instead of Trevor Phillips from GTA V. I hear people calling Trevor a psychopath when he is more of a sociopath. Psychopaths and sociopaths are not the same people no matter how much the terms are conflated. Psychopaths are incapable of feeling empathy for others even if they wanted to. At least sociopaths have friends and family members they care about. Trevor is loyal to Franklin, Lamar, Lester, Patricia, Michael (when he admits fault) and Michael’s family. Michael’s son Jimmy calls Trevor “Uncle T” because how much he cares about him. A psychopath like Gary doesn’t value loyalty. Trevor is insane, but he will kill you only if you betray him or annoy him enough like what he does to Johnny Klebitz. Gary is a sane, sadistic, manipulative, narcissistic, and unempathetic. There is no person Gary shows empathy or loyalty towards as everyone is a pawn to his ends. Trevor is a SOCIOPATH and Gary is a PSYCHOPATH.
Except according to the medical definition you can’t diagnose a minor with ASPD. (Psychopath and Sociopath aren’t medical terms, they’re media terms to distinguish different types of ASPD). A better Rockstar pick would have been either Dimitri Rascalov or Lionel Starkweather
So hey I learned something today. I could use a few of these characters for some ideas. 10. Not bad for a first pick. 9. GS's influence is on this entry I know it! 8. I like that fake out. And it's also great to hear more of this game. 7. Yeah this guy is a monster and a terrible father. Also I didn't know about the comparison, nice! 6. And here's Ari's influence. 5. This entry was expected. The result of bad parents. 4. And I thought Dimitri would be here but he gets a bit too emotional. I'm also glad the GBA games get some love. 3. Eh I would put this guy lower in all honesty. 2. QG's influence is in this entry and well deserved! 1. I hate her! I don't even know the game and I hate her!
I was expecting junko, Ngl, but thnx for giving bully and NFB credit. I always thought Julia was someone who wanted to do good but didn’t realize how hard it was. Didn’t realize how messed up she really was.
I said this in top 10 worst villains, and I'll say it again here. Xemnas' characterization is not changed in Dream Drop Distance. It's VERY obvious that Nobody's have hearts in KH2 and 358/2, and I argue that the DDD reveal makes him a BETTER example because it makes him an ACTUAL psychopath. He knew damn well that Nobody's had hearts, and he manipulated the entire Organization into believing they didn't, despite the very obvious emotions that all of them had. I think your hatred for Xehanort has made you start criticizing things that have either always been there or make perfect sense.
Calling it right now. He's putting Kefka at number 1. That clown has been living in his head rent-free for years, and this list was made for him. *Edit:* Damn, I was sure that this list was practically made for Kefka. Oh well.
Okay Josh you have no idea how EXCITED I was when you put Hazama/Terumi from BlazBlue on the list! 13 year old has some BEEF with that man of what he did! He was just nothing but chaos, insanity, corruption! He was MADNESS. I never wanted to see a character get his ass handed to in my life!
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I have a question, has Josh finally stopped underating or considering KH3 a bad or weak sequel game with a bad ending? Curiosity really. Like does he really dislike the game that much? Im really asking.
I know another lot of protagonist bosses. Emerl from Sonic Battle, Oersted from Live A Live, Omori from Omori, The Batter from OFF, Spark as Livewire from Spark the Electric Jester 3, Hank from MADNESS: Project Nexus 2 and Tee from Puyo Puyo Tetris. I also have a countdown that I want to see which is called Top 10 Video Game Cruelty Potentials in which you do horrible things to your enemies and friendly or neutral NPCs like in Undertale or Octopath Traveler.
Junko' more of a sociopath than a Psycopath. Basically, she can feel empathy, but it' so weak that it' ends up backfiring, creating a feed back loop that emphasizes her sadism.
Before Number 1: Who can be worse than TERUMI?
After Number 1: ......That woman is evil incarnate and needs to be stopped at all costs.
"Who could POSSIBLY be a bigger psychopath than number 2??
...
A Politician? yeah that checks out."
😂
Number 1 is gonna be Wesker. There's no way it ain't.
*He's an honorable mention*
WHAT!? Ok, who could POSSIBLY be worse than Wesker, Terumi, AND FLOWEY!?
*Actual number 1*
...That woman is one of the most evil and irredeemable characters I've ever seen.
And you wanna know what's worse? She is realistic. You could easily describe a good bunch of politicians in the same way.
@@toumabyakuya The Orange Man....
DAMN YOU REALITY!!
She was so evil and uncaring that Big Jack Horner would be horrified.
@@MasterZebulinthat and many others. Let’s face it both democrats and republicans have some of the same traits Julia has
TBH I thought Cyrus having a Crobat may have been a hint at how detached he was, that he was able to fake emotions well enough to Max his Crobat's friendship
He also walks everywhere and works within two blocks of both the department store and the massage parlor.
Or he just got it from a trade
Or the crobat has Stockholm Syndrome
No one ever said that the friendship had to go both ways.
Where the heck is that little clip in the Cyrus portion from? Tge part with tge "And, you fond enjoyment in this?", "Oh, no, I'm feeling absolutely nothing as I'm saying this." Lines
Using Dimentio as the transition was perfect, that guy was an absolute menace. Turned a friendly dragon against you, manipulated his coworkers, and tried to destroy the universe all in the one game he was featured in.
Can’t forget what he did to luigi
@@macaylacayton2915who is luigi? I only know mr.L
@@edubelonia6683 you know exactly what I mean
@@macaylacayton2915 WHO IS LUIGI!
It's so funny how you compared Manfred von Karma to if Freeza was a lawyer, since Freeza was based off scummy real estate speculators during the Japanese economic bubble of the 80s.
I chuckled at that comparison, too. All of what he did that led to the case (not counting eradications of planets) is almost one for one.
So that's why Frieza is so racist
Damn that means in Super, our Saiyan Wukong ended up befriending the most dangerous villain of all, a real estate owner
NUMBER. ONE.
I thought Cyrus was an omnicidal maniac, but GEEEEEZZZZZ did Julia Salisbury have him beat!
Props for her actor for portraying such a heartless monster.
If she were a real dictator in history, her actions would rank her high on the list of most evil leaders in history. Up there with Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Castro- possibly even higher than Castro.
My thoughts exactly on the latter
For reference, the country of South Sudan has about 14.7 million people.
If she were to target that nation only, Julia would have sent the 74th most populous nation to 160th, the same level as Guyana, minimum!
Not to mention erase countries like Greece, Sweden, and Belgium.
BTW
Depending on your choices in one of the At Home sections early on in the game......
One of those 14 Million Casualties can be one of Alex's (The Player Character) Kids
Not only that, but your spouse can lose their sibling as well.
Manfred Von Karma couldn’t have the bullet removed from his shoulder because it would likely have been turned over to the authorities, and eventually be matched to the bullet extracted from Gregory Edgeworth. Plus, it would leave a doctor as a witness to testify if he was ever brought to trial for DL-6. For Von Karma, It was either implicate himself now, or implicate himself later. And because of the statute of limitations on murder, he chose later. He was playing the long game, counting on the statute of limitations expiring on DL-6 before having the bullet removed. It was purely logical on his end…. He really did commit the perfect crime. He just didn’t account for the protagonist.
20:50 missed opportunity to play a hunter the parenting audio clip:
"WAIT HOW ON EARTH ARE YOU 27 YEARS OLD!??"
"MY DAY JOB WAS STRESSFULL AND ALSO I HAVE PSORIASIS WHAT DO YOU WANT???"
I hate that this perfectly describes me (stressful day job and psoriasis). Except I'm almost 24.
I've always seen the difference between sociopaths and psychopaths as such:
Sociopaths are fully aware that what they do is wrong, they just simply do not care
Psychopaths have no moral compass whatsoever and cannot tell the difference between right and wrong
Is there more nuance than that, or might I just be wrong altogether?
You’re not wrong.
Manfred von Karma is a psychopath who killed his courtroom rival for “tarnishing” his perfect record, playing the long con to destroy his rival’s son (Edgeworth was responsible for von Karma getting shot by a stray bullet), and coercing a former suspect into helping frame his last target of hatred, meanwhile ignoring his very talented daughter.
Dahlia Hawthorn is a sociopath who loved no one, knew what she was doing was evil, framed others for her crimes, and killed anyone who she felt was getting in her way. Not even family mattered to her, nor having any love interests could stop her from going down an extremely dark path.
Exactly! People during the premiere thought manfred was a sociopath for some dumbass reason. Geez
So if he did a list of sociopath's in gaming would Baldur from God of War Ragnarok be on the list?
I thought a sociopath was someone who couldn’t feel things like love or empathy?
@@theheroneededwillette6964 pretty sure that's a psychopath
Calling Junko a psychopath is like saying Superman is a little strong
The funny thing is that for No. 2, he’s also in BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle who you can pair with Idachi (who was No. 10) so you can have 2 playable psychopaths as a team.
Jesus. I can see how No. 1 got the spot. That is a legitimately scary villain.
“Have I ever told you the definition of insanity? The idea of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.”
Not the topic, read the description
YOU DON'T SAY-
@macaylacayton2915 No need to be harsh about it. He just wanted to quote Vaaz, who in all regards, is pretty much a psychopath himself.
@@macaylacayton2915 Vaas was a psychopath adjacent, I'm pretty sure. He also vehemently denied being insane, and was calling the Player Character, or at least the situation they created- insane.
Because they kept coming back, and he kept trying to get rid of them in different ways.
Vaas was just loud, not insane.
Vaas better at least get an honorable mention.
Oh my god…Julia Salisbury makes Junko, Vaas, & Kefka look like saints in comparison yeah that answers the question!
Someone Julia warrents a BLACK OPS team to get
You exaggerate, but Julia actually comes scarily close to Junko’s reach and severity of destruction.
10. The scary truth is psychopaths are sometimes so hard to spot you never know till it’s too late, often hiding behind their likable facade.
9. Hmm, a murder who kills for the sake of art? I wonder if he took an art class with Art The Clown or a drama class with a theater villain from a recognizable franchise *(try guessing).*
8. Now, I've met bullies before, but this is just ridiculous.
7. When I called karma a b!tch, this guy only proved me right.
6. Boy Howdy, I never hated a rich psychopath as hateable as Reaver.
5. Cyrus is a monster, and I wanna ask what Ari thinks of the psycho?
4. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, I hate this guy more than Cyril or Gilbert, and the worst part is Zephial's not above hurting or killing women and kids.
3. I saw this coming, and I still fear this flower.
2. Sheesh, it's villains like these who are behind everything that make me hate them for being the force to knock down the dominoes one by one.
1. You know how Fox Channel News is based on deception, hubris, lies, and bias? Well, this lady wipes her butt with Fox and every real-life politician.
If by lies, deception, hubris, and bias, you mean NOT taking the line that the progressive line is completely infallible, and that conservative movements are about egotistical apathy and/or malice (the implicit line that is the lie, deception, hubris, and bias of the other major networks).
1: Corrupt politician. That´s a good number 1
2: Does not really care of how his actions affects other and enjoys misery
3: Consequence of having no soul
5: Intresting how many emotionless villains there are in Pokemon and he really is one of them
6: Another narcissistic psycopath
7: The narcissistic psycopath.
9: Have not played Lol for a long time
10: The incel psycopath. I like though the fact there´s no broader reason for his actions, just boredom and wanting to have some fun.
Nice list. Some other choices I can think of are Dr Regal, Shido, Kazuya Mishima or Bryan Fury, Vholran and Majora
Cyrus isn't even emotionless. He represses himself severely but he very much not only has emotions, but very strong ones. I got the impression from his last scene in Platinum that total repression is the only way he can control them.
A psychopath is great at hiding in plain sight. That’s the key difference from sociopaths.
Thank you! Someone who understands!
Aren't both good at hiding in plain sight
Yes!! Sociopaths stick out like a sore thumb. Psychopaths can easily blend in the crowds!!
Wait I thought it was the other way around. With sociopaths being extremely good liars and actors since they don’t feel the kinds of things that would give away lying?
One thing: Hazama and Terumi are two different characters. Hazama was created as an artificial human to contain Terumi’s soul and act as his hiding place while he spins his plans, but he has his own personality and goals separate from his passenger’s. In fact, as of Central Fiction, they’ve been separated into two bodies. Hazama’s a cruel evil fun troll too, but he’s not even half as bad as Terumi.
I half-expected Vaas to be on the list, probably at number 1, but the actual number 1 psychopath BLEW HIM OUTTA THE WATER!
I wanted Luca Blight as at least an honorable mention because god damn is Luca Blight good for this list.
I was expecting Kefka, since it's Joshscorcher's favorite.
@@Rusticabcdwell yes but no on that
Having played Not For Broadcast this year, I agree Julia deserves the top spot. Especially since one career psychopaths IRL gravitate towards to is politics (and being a lawyer, which was Julia's prior career before going into politics).
So yeah, unlike a majority of characters on the list, people like Julia actually exist.
I think the best way to describe the No.1 pick is this.
She would do literally everything everyone else on the list would do if she had the chance to do so.
And guess what? SHE DID.
I've seen several people say Junko doesn't count for various reasons. I love Josh, but I gotta disagree here. I know he's not super familiar with the secondary material in the series.
1. Junko's 'insane' antics are not real. Monokuma is not her real self either. She puts on quite a few personalitys and switches constantly to keep herself from getting bored and to keep her foes on edge. On the rare occasions we see the 'real' Junko, she's just as cold and detached as what you're looking for.
2. Yes she was born this way. She herself confirms 'she cried tears of total despair' when she was born(and yes, she can remember it). And Danganronpa 0 confirms she was manipulating people and poisoning adults as a Toddler. Also she sent Mukuro off to train to be her personal attack dog when they were 8/9 years old.
3. Junko acts as 'extra' as she does in the games because by that point she's already won, and most of those people no longer remember her anyway. We see her facade active fully in Danganronpa 3, where she wins and succeeds in ending the world using what she stole from Mitarai and Matsuda. And in DR0 we see how she ruined Matsuda's life to turn him into a loyal asset and then engineered the worst possible ending for him with Ryoko. And in DR-IF, she drops the act while talking to Mukuro, and even Mukuro is caught off guard at just what her sister is really like.
I believe you've said before you've only played the games once and never saw DR3(Not V3 the non-canon game, 3 the anime that follows up on 2's ending in the future arc and explains what happened before DR1 in the despair arc), and yeah on a first playthrough if you don't play close attention I can see her being mistaken for just 'crazy'
Yeah Josh fell for Junko's 'crazy girl' acting.
The real Junko is utterly cold, ruthless, wants nothing more than to make all of humanity suffer for her own pleasure.
Most notably a scene midway through Danganronpa IF: The Button of Hope and The Tragic Warriors of Despair, where Mukuro is trying to talk to her Sister to reason their next move. Junko just completely drops the act and is completely unfeeling, just tells her sister it's time for her to die and she'll enjoy it.
@@danvsclips8326 also most of her psychopathic traits are NOT shown in the games
@@macaylacayton2915 We know just from the games she ended the world for her own amusement even if the specifics are vague
@@danvsclips8326 she’s, a boring character when you get down to the biscuits, when you take away her obsession with despair, there’s nothing to her
I really shouldn't be surprised that Number 1 is a politician. But even then, JEEBUS CHRISTMAS!
Strangely enough, Jhin is voiced by the same guy who voices Josh's favorite flaming member of Orginization 13, Quinton Flynn
I get leaving Vaas and Kefka off the list(Vaas is completely out to lunch and while Kefka was always a POS what happened to him made it worse), but Junko is not crazy or insane. She puts up personality’s to entertain herself. She is very much a psychopath and she gets worse and worse the closer you look at her. Her true personality fits the cold and uncaring qualified to a tee
Thank you for understanding! Too many people kept saying kefka during the premiere
Julia feels more like a villain from The Giver series rather than your usual video game villain.
I remember that book…yeah that’s an apt comparison
34:54 Are you telling me that at that moment of the earthquake the equivalent of the entire population of Guinea WAS ERASE FROM EXISTENCE!?
Eeyup. And while Josh only touched on it briefly, there is a full story path where you do nothing but spread her propaganda.
Well at least he warned us right off the backs Junko wasn’t in here! XD
Yet people kept thinking kefka would be on the list
@@macaylacayton2915 Kefka is honestly probably both Psychopathic and Psychotic.
He was always a bad person and a monster, but what happened to him ended up making him far worse and more unhinged.
She doesn't deserve to be on the list anyway. It's baffling that he likes Junko and hates Tsumugi when Junko is worse than Tsumugi in basically every way
@@aneonfoxtribute Tsumugi is a more of a traditional psychopath, specifically a media type psychopath. She's typical
As a Touhou fan, do you have the slightest idea how little it narrows it down
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Josh does topics about machiavellists and narcissists to complete the dark triad.
I'd be down to see it
Add sociopaths to that trifecta for an even better viewing experience and my vote would be cast immediately.
Duuude, that would be awesome!
In the case of number 1, especially since I played Not for Broadcast, it's freaking ironic that I enjoyed Peter Clement a lot more. His drunken antics, his sailor mouth, and his temper towards certain situations. At least he was himself, which is more than I can say about miss Salisbury steak. Shoot, given the choices you make in the game, one of the people that dies in the explosion could be your own daughter. Christ!
Or your spouse's sibling. Or both!
Not only is Peter a lot more fun but you get the sense he is a decent man with issues but is genuine in wanting to take from the rich and privilege to give back to the common people
Little shocked William Afton didn’t show up on this list. Dude’s favorite pastime was kidnapping little kids, killing them, and stuffing their corpses in animatronics.
Low hanging fruit.
37:25 Julia: I ask you, is it a crime to strive for perfection in all things?
Me: In this case, yes. It is a massive crime.
How did The Dark Urge not make this list and Cazador did? I love how The Dark Urge origin puts the role of psychopath in YOUR hands to decide how to go about it. While it's fun to fully sink into the evil impulses of the route, I prefer the redemption path because I think it's a good portrayal of struggling against the psychopath within yourself rather than a separate entity.
The Dark Urge can be stopped or held at bay for a while. Cazador willfully enslaves and tortures his thralls, causing a ton of mental, physical and emotional damage to them. Just ask Astarion how he lived under Cazador’s control.
Also, Jhin's violin (violo?) has 4 strings
Never, in my LIFE, would i think Not For Broadcast would top one of your lists, let alone be on your radar! Applause for still managing to surprise us after all these years!
I think Xemnas still could have worked. I hold that what 3D revealed doesn't change how Ansem SOD and Xemnas were in their respective games. They may have been subtly guided by what Xehanort wanted, but their own desires and personalities drove them forward without realizing the ultimate goal until they were called to the future. And once they realized the truth, they just went along with it rather than have everything they worked for be crushed by the harsh truth of them being manipulated.
Yeah or They’re just as big of POS as their original self because Xemnas was ALWAYS lying about the organization’s goal. Regardless of whether you see the goal of organization 13 as a retcon. Xemnas was always lying to them about getting their Hearts Back. The KH2 Ultimania Think his personal goal for kingdom hearts were to become a godlike entity and remake the world which again isn’t that far off from what his true self wanted. And he more or less says this at the end of two
Oh wow, didn't think I would ever see Not For Broadcast here! I played through it once and loved it, wish it had more players. It does have replayability, but man does it drag, it's not a short game. I mean it's not a bad thing, but with 14 different endings and one playthrough taking maybe 6 hours? Good luck, heh.
Every argument you could use against Junko would either also apply to other 'eccentric' psychopaths like Terumi or Flowey, or is disproven by the secondary media that delves into Junko's true personality.
Again that’s secondary media not the main games, Josh sticks to the main games
Yeah, I was like, "Junko is too over the top, but Flowey isn't?"
@@whitethunder9064 look honestly you should see me in twitch integrated cult of the lamb streams. I’m basically Flowey in those cases because of how bored I am
Julia is basically news media and politicians in a nutshell lol. Honestly I kinda of want to play that game now
I will say that I don’t fully agree with Junko not being on the list because she’s ‘crazy’.
Her unhinged personality you said made her ‘insane’ is very clearly a facade to keep her from getting bored. So is Monokuma. We meet her true self at the end of the first game, very cold, very sterile, just wants to end the world for a quick bit of entertainment. The creator themself calls her one.
Specifically, she's a Sadistic Psychopath(which despite which some of the other commenters think aren't completely different things, Sadistic Psychopaths are a thing, and no they aren't the same thing as sociopaths). And we actually know not only she was born that way, but we can pinpoint exactly why.
She's a psychopath because of her talent, Ultimate Analyst. She's literally known everything that is going to happen since she was a baby, it makes her bored. Despair is not predictable.
She's a sadist(and also a psychopath again) because of defects in the pleasure and pain part of her brain, though this is also contributing to the psychopathy.
We can confirm these are both true because we have other cases. Hajime wasn't a psychopath, but after he got Ultimate Analysis and became Kamakura he absolutely was(he eventually pulled himself out of it, but that was after years of working with Junko and it's implied the fact he had the 'Ultimate Hope' talent in him alongside some remnants of Hajime is what saved him).
Chisa wasn't a sadist or a psychopath until Junko played ice-pick lobotomy with her brain and messed with the part of her brain that's messed up. Then she was. In-fact this also implies that even without the talent mentioned above she'd still be a Psychopath. Chisa became both a sadist and a psychopath after the surgery, and was able to keep her head down and convince the whole future foundation everything was fine for years even as she was sabotaging their operations and occasionally murdering toddlers on the side for a quick laugh. She can also induce the latter with brainwashing(either long and slow like with Monaca or with stolen technology like Class 77), but that can be undone. What she did to Chisa was unfixable.
Also, Junko feeling 'empathy' and wanting to share her despair with others because she thinks it's for the best? That's a lie she tells people like Mukuro or Monaca. Mukuro tries to talk to her on her level after her betrayal in Danganronpa IF and Junko after a bit of goofing around just drops the act entirely and tells Mukuro she's going to enjoy watching her die after seeing how much Mukuro still loves her.
Speaking of DR-IF, there's a single line in there that confirms Junko was the one who ordered Mukuro to run away on a vacation when she was 9(Junko was 8 at the time), and that Junko was already planning to unleash despair upon the world at this point. So at least since she was 8.
DR0 actually pushes that back further. Junko at Age 5 was working to manipulate her best friend, Matsuda, into becoming loyal and dependant on her. She did this by poisoning his mom to make her sickly and borderline-dementiac, and then gaslighting and manipulating him into losing her other friends. This is because Matsuda(alongside being an easy target like her sister) was already showing promise as a Neurological prodigy and thanks to her talent Junko could predict he'd grow up to be the best in the world. Matsuda is the one who gave Junko mind erasing technology, and it was the combination of his research and the animation techniques that she stole from Mitarai that would allow her to create both brainwashing videos and 'un-alive yourself' videos.
If you think Junko is crazy, you've fallen for the facade she puts on to entertain herself and make people uncomfortable. If you think she's delusional and thinks despair is better for other people, you've fallen for the lie she tells her close followers like Mukuro, Matsuda, and Izuru Kamakura. Not even Mukuro truly understood Junko, that's the entire plot of DRIF. So using her words as evidence of her not being a psychopath is a bad idea.
I believe that Josh has his own philosophies for his countdowns. One of them being that he mostly keeps it to what's shown in games, usually main ones. I think that's what prevents Junko from being in. He generally doesn't include things that are on side-materials. That is why despite with his adoration and obsession with Kingdom Hearts, he'll nitpick the confusing storyline, because of the series' obsession in putting plot-important things in non-game materials.
And well, most of the Junko psychopathy isn't from the games as mentioned... so for him, she does look more like a typical crazy.
@@ChrisX_212 Junko has barely an hour of screentime in the actual main series games, half that if you don't count the AI copy. About 40 minutes at the end of the first two games, mostly being intentionally confusing and deceitful to mess with the cast. Her real self has less than a minute of screentime.
Basically everything we actually know about her that isn't third or fourth hand or a lie is from the side materials. Danganronpa Zero(Novel), Danganronpa IF(Novel), and the anime specifically.
MAD Scientist??
@@ChrisX_212 exactly! most of junko's psychopathy is OUTSIDE the games like the end of hope's peak anime
@@macaylacayton2915 This is why I can explain why Josh excludes her. It clashes against his philosophies that a good storytelling in game means that one does not put a plot important point in a side material.
Shout out to the big bad from the fourth Ace Attorney game.
Kristoph Gavin seriously stands out from other Ace Attorney villains, if only because of how strangely serious and seemingly calm he always looks. Basically take everything Josh said about Von Karma, and add the little extra ingredient of Black Psyche-locks
As established in Dual Destinies, they only appear when someone is hiding a secret even they themselves aren't aware of. When asked about why he killed the victim from the first case, who turned out to be a defendant that dismissed him in an earlier case in favor of Phoenix, Black Psyche-locks appear on Kristoph. The general consensus is that these locks appeared because Kristoph is so far gone, that through his own ego and arrogance, he convinced himself that he did nothing wrong.
Von Karma's a pretty good choice too, if only because his presence throughout the series is greater, but I have to give props to Kristoph for being such an intensely rotten man, despite his brief appearance
"Okay, seriously, who could ever be a bigger psychopath than Terumi? They'd have to be like Hitler on Psycho Power!"
".... Sweet Baby Christ on French Toast!? What is Wrong with this woman?! You're making my Psycho Hitler analogy look like a Salvation Army Nun by comparison! I mean, My God!"
What’s crazy is Julia Salisbury sounds like a real politician from today’s world 😂
Well yeah duh
Not for Broadcast is a massive satire on general politics, after all.
About Manfred's bullet wound... It's the SHOULDER, not the chest.
If I don’t see Cyrus from Pokémon on here then I’m calling this show rigged.
Guess it's not rigged.
I was gonna say that Ghetsis should be here, but then I thought about how Cyrus is much more of a psychopath by the traditional definition. Ghetsis is definitely more cruel and evil, but Cyrus is definitely more of a psychopath
Same.
@@jameslawrenson1208 Yeah I suppose not
@@Chaos_Vergil I had an inkling it was going to be lysandre but I guess they were just to poorly written
Josh. Editors. You've done it again! Gave everyone a number 1 that no one saw coming and delivered with great reasons why they deserve that spot. (Though then again can't really top a politician when it comes to psychotics am I right?)
That was NO politician. It was something MUCH worse.😰
As much as I loved seeing Dimentio being the number transition, I wished he would've gotten mentioned because he played EVERYONE like a fiddle!
18:24 funny enough Cyrus in the manga is the exact opposite of his game counterpart.
Like game Cyrus manga Cyrus still sees the world as flawed but in contrast to the cliched game adaptation manga Cyrus sees the world as flawed BECAUSE of his lack of emotions.
To describe manga Cyrus you could say that he’s a man with two key interests. The complexity of machinery and ancient history. He learned and was enamored with the origins of sinnoh specifically of the lake trios concept of wisdom will and emotion. However due to this and his aforementioned lack of emotion he saw the world as incomplete, always lacking in one of the three concepts so his entire ambition was to remake the world so it could be whole embodying all three concepts once again for peace.
It wasn’t until the climax and aftermath of the Diamond and Pearl arc after witnessing the three main characters embodying all three aspects (dia for emotion, pearl for will, and platina for wisdom) Cyrus comes to his conclusion that even if the individual is incompleteone can feel completion when surrounded by others who care for you.
Another contrast between game and manga Cyrus is their impression of giratina. While game Cyrus was enamored by the antimatter Pokémon manga Cyrus rejected it as an affront to his desire of completion almost acting like the empty void he wishes to fill.
Again that’s outside video games and not necessarily even canon
@@macaylacayton2915 what so the anime gets a free pass for recognition by piggybacking off of the games, but the manga that has been in circulation for as long as the game and anime series despite only having a fraction of the support or recognition while simultaneously providing their own stories can’t even be acknowledged for the actual legitimate creativity that goes into their writing.
Ok so you SPECIFICALLY mean the Adventures manga and not, say, DPA or whatever. But even there he isn't emotionless, and even comes to feel such strong gratitude that he attracts the attention of Shaymin.
@@lunerblade13 Anime Cyrus is a bastardization to the point where I have to question if the writers even bothered to play the damn game. He had almost nothing to do with anything Cyrus believes in.
@@BJGvideos to be fair it’s more so that Cyrus believes that he is emotionless rather then being truly emotionless. It can be seen in the loyalty his admins give to him he just can’t see it for himself.
It’s only until the platinum arc when he is forced in the distortion world on top of spending time with Dia that Cyrus beings to express himself more and undergo a revelation of self.
That last game actually sounds AMAZING. I’m going to have to track it down sometime.
Honestly, was not expecting Andrew and Ashley Graves to make it into the Honorable Mentions.
Having played Coffin of Andy and Leyley, I would have been appalled I'd they didn't make honorable mentions at minimum. Especially since they got started really early, and never quite improved.
This is perfect for Ace Attorney and Danganronpa. Also love the Psych reference 2:21 and MrBallin shout out
Maybe. We will see if those characters are in the list
@@RavenGamingOverLordonly Manfred Von Karma made the cut.
@@thestrange2742 Yep seems like it, I just got to that part of the video
@@thestrange2742 really? I’m surprised there weren’t more. Like Dahlia, The Phantom, Gahran, or Kristoph
@@jcj268 they are over the top so they probably didn't make the cut.
holy shit this is the first time ive seen any popular youtuber mention not for broadcast. more people need to play that game its so good
Zero Punctuation did a review on it back before the rebrand, if I recall
Fun thing about Flowey, he gets even scarier in Undertale Yellow, where he is even more manipulative to Clover and gives an even more nightmarish final neutral fight in Meta Flowey. A fight that, according to what I heard, took an entire YEAR to code and animate!
That's a fan-game, not canon
@@kalkuttadrop6371
Sure, I'm aware, but I'm sure Toby Fox is well aware of it and probably supports it
I... I had no idea Broadcast had plot. 0.0 I seriously underestimated that game!
Another fun fact about Cyrus in Masters, he has a soft spot for Sophocles and in a recent story he helped Sophocles and Penny with their new Pokemon PC. It's cute how he clearly likes Sophocles despite trying to keep neutral. It's why I like Masters so much, it fleshes out characters even more.
The despair off not being on this list is enough for Junko...
What scares me about *Not for Broadcast* (even though I've never played the game) is that the end scenario could actually happen in real life should the wrong people gain control of the government.
I truly believe that the last entry is there because of the fact that, through all the mysticism we see in video games, a villain that could realistically be in that position terrifies me, and presumably others.
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I wouldn’t worry too much about that, Toby Fox hates making irredeemable psychopaths with no redeeming qualities. There’s a reason why Flowey was given a tragic past and was given redemption in the Pacifist Run.
Flowey is still a psychopath though. He can't feel.
He just has a reason and it can be somewhat fixed
@@judithmorgendorffer6106 no denying that. I’m just saying that Flowey is a redeemable psychopath, and Toby Fox hates making characters that are truly irredeemable.
I love Yūki Terumi so munch he is my favorite character in blazeblue nothing will change that.
It's sorta weird how Cyrus's great-great-great-grandma/ancestor, Cyllene was such a good woman. It's only proven by the fact that she basically helps the player out when everyone else is against them. No truly "bad" person would do that. Cyllene is truly good.
I like to give a mention to MAIK, the main villain from World's End Club
a super computer and AI, that was created by the father from 1 of the main characters
with the goal of solving world problems, like preserving the Earth's environment
but through a simulation, MAIK determined that in order to do that, humans need to be stopped
but instead of simply killing them, MAIK instead created a method to remove humanities emotions, and locked them away
so that nature can return to normal
AI doesn't really count, though...
Ah, Cyrus's role model!
@@antonhagbox02 The Allied Mastercomputer would like a word...
Gotta love Cyrus and the fact he has a Crobat
38:11 what is worst then a psychopath with raw power? A Psychopath with POLITICAL power
If Jhin got into number 4, it's going to be PERFECT
And yet he's at number 9
@@kirbo4964 9 is the easiest to modify into 4.
“A meat bicycle built for 2”
I don't know if, Adachi counts as a psychopath. Arena ultimax shows he actually cares about, Dojima to some extent. He basically roasts an officer for talking badly about him.
To be fair he was only number 10
That's fair but still it just feels weird to see him on this list.
@@nightmarearcade2663I mean he shoved a bunch of people into tvs, literally leaving them to die to shadows, OUT OF BOREDOM
Yes however a Physcopath is someone incapable of empathizing or connecting with others. Adachi, however is capable of it he just chose not to. Like I said earlier arena ultimax showed he had some care for, Dojima and got genuinely angry when he was bad mouthed. If anything I think he fits more as a sociopath.
When you mentioned Ace Attorney, I was absolutely certain you were gonna pick Dahlia Hawthorne. Not disappointed with your actual choice though.
After hearing everything about the number 1 choice, I think we can agree that she is easily one of the coldest, cruelest, vilest, most evil, utterly irredeemable characters ever seen.
The idea of a person snapping and twisting his ideals to see himself in the right of doing the wrong and cruel acts any normal being would avoid is kind of intriguing. It makes you wonder if it was by design of the mind, the way the person was raised, or, perhaps, a more instinctive desire deep within?
The mind is a curious thing, and we barely know how it ticks.
AKA:
"The FUNERAL BAGPIPER FOR ALL LOGIC!"
Here's another hidden gem Psychopath from gaming
Dr. Angus Bumby, "Alice: Madness Returns"
Bumby serves as Alice's therapist who helped her forget about her traumatic past about the fire that killed her family which may or may not be Alice's fault. But as she journies into her Wonderland, secrets have been revealed that it was actually Bumby who caused the fire, after he r&*#ed Alice's sister.
So he used hypno therapy to help her forget everything to cover his tracks and if Alice attempted to remember she would feel guilt as she blamed herself for the burning of her home. If that wasn't horrible enough, he used the Foster Home for children he was working at to hypnotize children into mindless sex slaves. He felt no compassion for the youth, and only cared about making a living out of the lives of orphans.
Even being confronted by Alice in the real world, Bumby admitted to it all including assaulting her sister brushing her off as a tease who wanted him at the end. Even after being told she will turn him in, Bumby confirmed no one will believe a former asylum patient over a therapist. So with no alternative, Alice pushed him infront of a train, avenging her family and ending his evil.
Or did she?
Because in the cancelled game Alice: Asylum, Wilton J. Radcliffe was also involved with Bumby's scheme.
@@thatman666 since it was canceled can’t count it
Calling it now, Flowey
He literally soulless, which is something that describes sociopaths/psychopaths
I’m expecting to see him in this list too
Top 3
5:15 IS THAT A TF PRIME REFERENCE?
I would like to say out of pheonix wright I'll put Roger Retinz. since
1. He plotted the murder of his biggest fan, whom he spent years training. He could've carried Rogers legacy, but instead he was just a means to an end.
2. He didn't go after Phoenix's daughter, he wanted to crush everyone around her. By forging her signature to put her entire family into bankruptcy.
3. He Riled up and paid people to attack the wright agency.
4. At the very end he left satisfied all because he felt that as long as he tricked Trucy. That's all the satisfaction he needed before getting carried off to jail.
All because he got hurt in his own stunt and was let go.
Okay, during the stream I was kinda going on a tangent about the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath.
I discussed this with my father and he clarified it for me thus I wanted to clarify it for everyone else = Every Sociopath is a Psychopath in that they are mentally ill.
However the key difference is that a Psychopath doesn't feel any guilt, remorse, empathy while a Sociopath can feel guilt, remorse and can care about a select few people in their life.
Aka Josh did do the list correctly and I had them mixed up, therefore I apologize for any misunderstandings I may have caused, and my annoying behavior during the stream, and I hope this comment clears everything up.
Apology accepted.
@@CountShaman Thank you
meanwhile there are plenty of people even in the comments still confusing em
Gonna assume you aren’t super familiar with Danganronpa lore. Junko is a creator confirmed psychopath. She’s cold and uncaring, she just puts on a looney persona to keep herself from getting bored. The spin-off materials (specifically the prequel novel Zero, the AU novel IF, and the DR3 anime) makes it clear what she is. She actually has a ton in common with Number 2 and Number 1, except The Tragedy killed more than half of humanity and destroyed all the pre-existing nation states. Julia could only hurt her own country.
Wouldn't that make her a sociopath?
She's still pretty over the top insane. Yeah she's cold, but she literally has no logic to her actions, there's a reason she outright says trying to understand her is pointless.
@@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 Being logical isn't actually a requirement to be a psychopath clinically, just being unfeeling and unemphatic.
Sadistic Psychopaths exist along with Non-Sadistic Psychopaths. Pyschopaths can also have secondary mental health issues like substance abuse or even delusional disorders which combine to make things worse. Kefka honestly is both Psychopathic and Psychotic, born the former, made the latter.
Junko's logic is she wants to maximise despair because it gets her off and is the only thing that keeps her from getting bored. She then proceeds to end the world and engineer a ton of horrific events. She's very similar to many ways to Julia and Terumi
@@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 Facade. Not the real her
@@kalkuttadrop6371 I always headcanoned Junko as like an embodiment of despair itself, akin to the grim reaper with death. Especially with all the goddess of despair talk in DR2. Instead of a mysterious rotting shadowy skeleton looming over you for the right time to strike she's an impossibly gorgeous and talented lady no one could hope to live up to. It would have been so cool if they leaned into that more with her poking at people's insecurities and making them spiral into hopelessness. They only really give you little tastes like the despair disease and the Warriors of Hope. It made Monaca much more of an imposing presence that we got to see some of those imprinted behaviors onscreen, because no one really takes Junko that seriously or cares to understand her ideology in the main games.
Eh, for Ace Attorney I would have gone for the true mastermind of Kenji 2: Simon Keyes. Not only he did exactly what Manfred did but in a bigger scale, but he also got everything he wanted as well. Knightley? Killed as planned. Patricia Roland? Arrested for the murder of Knightley, also as planned. Blaise Debeste? Arrested for the murder of Jill Crane, also as planned as well. And Di-Jung-Huang's body double? Killed on a lucky encounter. He not only managed to mastermind the entire game, but he also played a warden of a prison, a High Prossecutor and a President (the body double had arrange things so that he would be seen as the president of Zeng Fa) as his puppets. Even Miles Edgeworth was acting as planned! By the time Miles manages to catch him, he already won.
By that logic, might as well put Matt Engarde nearly on the same level. (Then again, he’s both psychopathic and sociopathic.)
@@LunaP1 I mean, Matt barely did anything in his case and he was the villain of the last case only. Simon is the villain of an entire game and was behind 4 of the 5 cases.
Here's the thing though... he's from a spin-off that's not yet even localized.
@@whitethunder9064 You sure? There's also the (amazing) fan translation as well.
@@toumabyakuya Read: FAN translation.
I tried looking for more information about Julia and Not For Broadcast. There's 14 different endings yet not that much info on Julia. Whether she dies or not in any ending. Who's the main enemy in this game and is there a good ending?
And what the hell is this game? So many endings, "episodes", and other stuff. Reading it online makes me feel like I'm reading Harry Potter and The Order of The Phoenix.
Ya know, Cyrus's plot in Masters EX sounds a lot like the Tsukinome Project from Naruto Shippuden. Trapping people in a world of dreams was exactly Madara's plan, after all.
If Joshscorcher makes a sociopath top ten, maybe there will be a Mephiles the Dark
Number 9 his Fixation on fours is actually a Big Japanese reference
As the Japanese way to say 4 matches with the Japanese word for Death.
That was brought you fool
Not going to lie, even though I have played the entry at Number 1; I did not expect it to appear on any sort of list, kudos to you for bringing it to a wider audience.
How is Junko NOT a psychopath? After what she did to Matsuda, Mukuro, Mitarai, Mikan, Monaca, Chiaki, Chisa, and her Classmates?
That was more like sadistic.
I would call it sadistic side showing. I still hate her for what she did to Chiaki and other characters
A sadist and a psychopath are different things a sadist takes joy in inflicting whatever trauma and pain onto others while a psychopath has no empathy or emotion in what they do
She's a weird case because she does things just to do them. Psychopaths tend to have some sort of goal, twisted as it may be, Junko just doesn't. She's more a force of nature than an actual written character
@@pedrorosa9893 Sadistic Psychopaths exist, see Anton Chiguruh. Non Sadistic ones also exist, see most businessmen.
I have never played the Layton series. But thank you for showing that the #1 spot can make Bill Hawks look like a saint!
I’m glad to see Gary Smith from Bully got the pick instead of Trevor Phillips from GTA V. I hear people calling Trevor a psychopath when he is more of a sociopath. Psychopaths and sociopaths are not the same people no matter how much the terms are conflated. Psychopaths are incapable of feeling empathy for others even if they wanted to. At least sociopaths have friends and family members they care about. Trevor is loyal to Franklin, Lamar, Lester, Patricia, Michael (when he admits fault) and Michael’s family. Michael’s son Jimmy calls Trevor “Uncle T” because how much he cares about him. A psychopath like Gary doesn’t value loyalty. Trevor is insane, but he will kill you only if you betray him or annoy him enough like what he does to Johnny Klebitz. Gary is a sane, sadistic, manipulative, narcissistic, and unempathetic. There is no person Gary shows empathy or loyalty towards as everyone is a pawn to his ends. Trevor is a SOCIOPATH and Gary is a PSYCHOPATH.
Except according to the medical definition you can’t diagnose a minor with ASPD. (Psychopath and Sociopath aren’t medical terms, they’re media terms to distinguish different types of ASPD).
A better Rockstar pick would have been either Dimitri Rascalov or Lionel Starkweather
So hey I learned something today. I could use a few of these characters for some ideas.
10. Not bad for a first pick.
9. GS's influence is on this entry I know it!
8. I like that fake out. And it's also great to hear more of this game.
7. Yeah this guy is a monster and a terrible father. Also I didn't know about the comparison, nice!
6. And here's Ari's influence.
5. This entry was expected. The result of bad parents.
4. And I thought Dimitri would be here but he gets a bit too emotional. I'm also glad the GBA games get some love.
3. Eh I would put this guy lower in all honesty.
2. QG's influence is in this entry and well deserved!
1. I hate her! I don't even know the game and I hate her!
I'm surprised Dimentio didn't make the cut, given how subtle his scheme was.
The number one Psychopath in Video Games is a politician?
Checks out.
I was expecting junko, Ngl, but thnx for giving bully and NFB credit. I always thought Julia was someone who wanted to do good but didn’t realize how hard it was. Didn’t realize how messed up she really was.
I never thought Josh would bring up a MrBallen clip, but consider me pleasantly surprised
So if number 1 has a spoiler warning that means not for broadcast is something I should play first?
I said this in top 10 worst villains, and I'll say it again here. Xemnas' characterization is not changed in Dream Drop Distance. It's VERY obvious that Nobody's have hearts in KH2 and 358/2, and I argue that the DDD reveal makes him a BETTER example because it makes him an ACTUAL psychopath. He knew damn well that Nobody's had hearts, and he manipulated the entire Organization into believing they didn't, despite the very obvious emotions that all of them had. I think your hatred for Xehanort has made you start criticizing things that have either always been there or make perfect sense.
Calling it right now. He's putting Kefka at number 1.
That clown has been living in his head rent-free for years, and this list was made for him.
*Edit:* Damn, I was sure that this list was practically made for Kefka. Oh well.
I doubt it hes a little over the top and might not fully fit the definition of a psychopath
WRONG! Lol!
Nope, he put a Female Politician at number one.
Spoilers: no
Hehehe....no. it's the female Dr. Well of the Megaman Zero series
Okay Josh you have no idea how EXCITED I was when you put Hazama/Terumi from BlazBlue on the list! 13 year old has some BEEF with that man of what he did! He was just nothing but chaos, insanity, corruption! He was MADNESS. I never wanted to see a character get his ass handed to in my life!
Future Top Ten Ideas
Top 10 Creepypasta Games
Top Ten Soulslike Bosses
Top Ten Video Game Cash Grabs
Top Ten Protagonist Bosses (as in you Fighting the Protagonist from the previous game in a franchise like Red from Pokémon)
Top Ten Wasted Potential in Gaming
Top Ten Worst Video Game Stories
Top Ten Video Game Mothers
Top Ten Traitor Bosses
Top Ten Video Game 4th Wall Breaks
I have a question, has Josh finally stopped underating or considering KH3 a bad or weak sequel game with a bad ending? Curiosity really. Like does he really dislike the game that much? Im really asking.
I know another lot of protagonist bosses. Emerl from Sonic Battle, Oersted from Live A Live, Omori from Omori, The Batter from OFF, Spark as Livewire from Spark the Electric Jester 3, Hank from MADNESS: Project Nexus 2 and Tee from Puyo Puyo Tetris. I also have a countdown that I want to see which is called Top 10 Video Game Cruelty Potentials in which you do horrible things to your enemies and friendly or neutral NPCs like in Undertale or Octopath Traveler.
@@sidhantpindiproli9112 And Rean Schwarzer from Trails of Cold Steel.
Nice ideas
> Top Ten Traitor Bosses
Streibough... 😠😡🤬
Cyrus was honestly my favorite Pokemon villain.
Same
I was entirely expecting junko going into this.
Junko' more of a sociopath than a Psycopath.
Basically, she can feel empathy, but it' so weak that it' ends up backfiring, creating a feed back loop that emphasizes her sadism.
He did say that Junko won’t be in the list
I was expecting Kanade.
@@WarmLusamine I don’t think he would count fan games
@@loganolson5316 Yeah… and I also feel like Junko, Terumi and Julia are a lot more dangerous than Kanade dispute her being more terrifying
24:18 psychopathy by nurture is called sociopathy its even int the word psy “mind” soci “social “