Locking story content behind DLCs is unforgivable, heck locking any content developed alongside the game itself behind and additional paywall is unforgiveable Like bruh, wtf atlus
It frustrates me that Atlus have been getting away with this for about 9 years now. They might have been able to get away with it when the games were good overall, but from Apocalypse onwards, when they start falling short in areas they really shouldn't, AND keep pulling anti-consumer crap like this, it's hard to ignore it anymore.
@@namoma4922 I also agree about story dlc but my main problem is that this was made alongside the base game so theres no reason (besides money) that this should be dlc
I appreciate very much the integrity of both reviews, man, and I very much hope it won't end up biting you back in the future (as in, no further chance of sponsorships). I overall agree with you (both on the general opinion on the DLCs value and/or Atlus' "standard" DLC practices, including the surprise to the somewhat disproportionate reaction against it, at least if we compare it to previous DLC packages that were available). But also, I can't help but feel sad and a bit anxious in a way at seeing a lot/most people skipping/postponing the game's purchase. And the reason for that is simple: I fear that Atlus won't take the low number with constructive criticism, thinking about their marketing and (some) bad design choices, but instead they will think something the likes of _"the game didn't sell because people didn't find a female main lead appealing, back to silent male protagonists it is"._ Being honest here: I do like silent protagonists, never had much problem with them, really. But I also don't necessarily mind protagonists who have their own personalities. And, as someone who actually DIDN'T LIKE AT ALL Ringo's design back when she was announced... I nibbled enough of the game to say that her quips and attitude have grown on me. As such, I just hope Atlus gives a chance to any/both of these traits (female lead and/or talking protag) to shine further in future games.
@@omensoffate I never wrote anything like that, y'know, and you really shouldn't misinterpret my words negatively for the sake of being a contrarian. I simply stated that I hope the review "wouldn't bite his back"; as in, Atlus refusing to give other codes for sponsorship in the future, due to "bad publicity" (saw it happen to other content creators in the past, with other sponsors). Never said anything about accommodating them though. If I didn't care about the review in the first place, I wouldn't have written a thing. I do care about Atlus giving him a code, BECAUSE I care about seeing more genuine reviews like these. Remember that we got the review in the first place BECAUSE of Atlus gifting a code. Sadly, while a virtue, honestly is not always rewarded, and I pray Atlus' marketing dep. proves itself forward-thinking enough, understanding that even a dissonant (yet objective) voice can have its benefits.
@@trueaegisform6811 If, to have more, we ought to call all that'll come to pass and be made by Atlus' hands, from this day onward, as _"Persona spin-off"..._ So be it, I say. *A small price to pay for **-copium-** salvation.*
12:30 Just a note kinda for everyone, it’s actually the same dungeon pasted 45 times and Nana is not the challenge they’re referring to At floors 10 and 15 of the dungeon there are requests that ask you to go all the way up to the first floor of a second dungeon(that’s the same floors with small differences) which gives you items that null the debuffs of Nana, making her fight quite trivial The ‘super boss’ the game is referring to is after Nana and requires you to go through 5 extra levels that provide you with special items for each summoner, normal battles with demons from lvl 70-95 and then the super boss of which you then unlock the lvl 98 fusion and the best accessory in the game(stat wise)
Altus: Makes a game where capitalism, among other things, has stagnated and ruined human society. Also Atlus: Hey, we know you gotta pay $59.99 just to get our game, but check out this DAY ONE DLC we already have made, but won’t put it in the $60 base game. You can have this totally not overpriced DLC for $39.99, only a little more than HALF the price of the base game! ORDER NOW!
I love how the collectors edition has a Aiho-kun figurine, but then still requires you to buy additional dlc to actual use them in game after already spending 200 bucks
They pulled that shit with SMT V too. I bought the Premium Edition for £100, not even knowing there was day 1 DLC for the game, and I didn't even get that with the package. SMT V was the last straw for me, especially when I already found its story lacklustre compared to other mainline games, so to see Soul Hackers 2 fail at everything it does AND have worse DLC practices? Pffft, no thanks. On the plus side, Xenoblade 3 is a masterpiece. I'm still playing it and loving every second, a full month after its launch, and it's more than made up for Soul Hackers 2's disappointment. Well worth its full price.
@@NintendanGX at least smt V had possibly the second best combat in the entire franchise, so I can cut it some slack. Doesn't look like sh2 succeeded in any area so that's a shame. And yeah, xenoblade 3 is a legit masterpiece- great story, great combat, great characters, and just an absurd amount of content and customization. I'm 128 hours in and still have a ton to do. It's easily my goty and one of the best jrpgs I've ever played, and for that I'll be more than willing to pay the 30 bucks for the DLC based on monoliths previous dlc expansions like torna
Thats exactly what i do when i look at dlc. I look at what i could buy with the money that is much better. I have a wishlist of games and indie games that i could just buy and get a full experience
Soul Hackers 2 Any% No DLC: IDK like a 6 hour speedrun Soul Hackers 2 Any% DLC: 2 and a half hours, just because it takes a bit to get the OP stuff Soul Hackers 2 NG+ No DLC: 2 hours
Let’s compare this dlc to another series dlc that cost the same price monster hunter rise sunbreak adds in new monster, old monster, really old monsters form gen 3, a new story, 1 old map and a new map plus a new hub ALL FOR 40 dollars
Or you could just compare it to smt 5 where only one of the dlc demons was new the other 2 were already dlc from the previous game and then 9-10 iconic demons are dlc because of nocturne coming out a few months prior rise sunbreak expansion gives way more value then most of what atlus gives not a really good comparison
First Soul Hackers not only was complete game on 3DS, but Atlus also gave FOR FREE extra content like bonus dungeon, side quests (Omphalos, and Dr Trill) and super bosses fights (Belzebub, Lilith, Sid Davis, Kioji Kuzunoha, Raidou Kuzunoha, Omagatsu). That was last game from Atlus without DLC bs.
Honestly from what I could see the DLC from Atlus in general seems to be hella mid. SMTV only had the Demi fiend fight and like, 3 or 4 new demons to fight and use. P5 and P5R was just "Hey have these Broken DLC personas plus outfits with music probably" which is optional but still underwhelming. It's cool but the DLC feels so bland and not even worth it once you buy it. SMT4 and 4A was decent enough but then the ball was not just dropped, but volleyball spiked once PQ and PQ2 came along where you just get some personas and extra music tracks.
@@dorcasmutton6335 the worst ones being the EXP and Money grind DLCs since someone could, in most cases, pay a small $4/£6 for both and just rush the game on their first playthrough and then either complain that the game is too easy on the hardest difficulty, or claim the game is too easy compared to older titles.
I actually really liked the iv/iva dlcs because at least they had a little story attached to a boss fight before you could get a demon The iva Beach one with Navarre and his little water wings was hilarious
@@PluckyJackson yeah I have to agree, IV and IVA's DLC was actually good and worth it, plus you actually had to fight the Demons to earn fusion them. Also fighting Stephan is the pinnacle of Megaten fanservice.
I appreciate the honest review on the dlc. This does feel like an experiment for future dlcs. Reminds me of the tales games now with the package costumes. Kinda miss just doing weird ass sidequests to get a free costume.
I was considering the Demon and story DLC, but I'm glad this talked me out of it. The new demons look cool but I can just buy them for a NG+ run or something. Story boss looks annoying too and the 13 floor tower is definitely poor design. Also, LOL that Atlus basically paid you to tell us how shit this all is.
Atlus should go back to just charging an extra $10 for the base game. I happily paid the "Atlus Tax" for years on 3DS. I get that boutique games will cost more. I guess this way, they make the tax optional. And it may not even be their choice to price the game on these platforms...
Another impressive showing from atlus in the competition for most scummy dlc, possibly even a new record! Can't wait to see how they outdo themselves next!
You know, everything about this game is just Mid. And that is the worst fate for a game. You're not remembered for being good, you're not infamous for being bad, you're just mid. And you're forgotten
8:38 Or they could've done something like the 11th Floor of the Sea Ark when you fight bosses to do NG+ and locking some stuff behind NG+ to give reasons to play it again
This DLC is mocking all of the Physical Collectors. Not only is it an extra purchase, it also has Ringo Frost and Maid Costume locked behind the digital premium exclusive bundle. Then the same company will repost our physical collections every Friday on social media… They want us post how much we adore their products, but then give more content to the ones who don’t collect their products physically. It just feels like such a gut punch. I’m honestly so over their bullshit at this point to where I’m just not buying the whole game. (Edit: same goes for the phantom thieves costumes locked behind digital pre orders… so another thing I can’t have even if I pre ordered physically)
most people don't remember this but the unnecessary bundles of DLC is ALSO not new to Atlus because 3/5 Dancing had bundled DLC as well exclusively in Europe, Australia and New Zealand. Americans and Japanese people got to buy 1 track or 1 costume just fine but everything was bundled in those territories so you HAD to spend HUNDREDS of extra dollars. It's how I've literally spent a grand AUD on JUST the Dance games.
just wait until they release Soul Hackers 2 Royal (or deluxe or whatever) and they charge a single price for all the dlc and the base game and for everyone who bought the game originally to get mad
Tbh I doubt they'll be that bad or at the very least nobody will care because... well it's Persona and there's no such thing as a bad (mainline) Persona game
i got the lvl up and currency boost DLC and I only turned it on a couple times and occasionally use them when I'm a lvl or 2 a way from a demon I want or same for a move from a demon. i did not use them much since when I first had it on I saw how broken it could be
Honestly I'd probably just wait for the inevitable remaster for free dlc. Though eh I like soul hackers more and hoped that devil summoner 1 for psp gets its eng patch implemented. I heard it was done but never implemented for some reason
It's worth it when you need a lot of money early on, cuz re summoning demons from the Compendium is HELLA EXPENSIVE. And the five percent discounts that happen after you complete certain quests doesn't make much difference.
Re 'Lost Numbers' Are you saying you DON'T get Nana as an extra team member?!! I got the impression from the description that she was going to be a new member of the team. I'm sure I'm not the only person to get this impression! Re Booster Items: I absolutely agree that these can completly break your game!! You can farm these from the easiest first dungeon and each item always levels up 1 so you can farm level 2 enemies when you are level 90! It make normal grinding for levels pointless.
Worst part about most of the DLC is, even though I got it, I won't use it cause they break the game or I wanna experience the base game... One day I'll learn
This video, along with your other review, just cemented my decision to wait until it's either on sale for $20 or for a potential "enhanced" port on Switch like Royal is getting. I was super excited in February when the teaser site went up, a bit deflated when Switch was excluded and then turned off when I saw the general aesthetic of the game. OG Soul Hackers, while incredibly dated, was enjoyable on the 3DS. Not a fan of the neon aesthetic. Looks like a mix of Persona 5 and Astral Chain, and while both games are awesome on their own, it just looks bland here. Oh well, hopefully they learn from this and at least try to do something other than Diet Persona for the next spinoff. But this is Atlus we're talking about. Project Re:Fantasy is probably just Persona with elves and dragons at this point
I believed they would make a nice game with no day 1 DLC, but I'm not surprised they did it, I'm surprised they made the game itself mixed for gameplay n story, I'm pretty much skippin
seeing atlus go this route doesn't surprise me. I haven't supported them in years, and I will continue to abstain from giving them one single red cent.
They knew what they were doing when they made Mara DLC. To see people pay for D. I'm skipping this one entirely. I get it's a budget title trying some new things but taking steps back even from Nocturne seems counterproductive to building off P5R and SMT V's innovations. Heck the OG Soul Hackers had demon recruitment far better than whatever this game opted to do.
The way I see it when you have a life full of responsibilities that don't afford the luxury of unlimited hours to sink into a game, this level up DLC is a godsend. I don't see the complaint about me either spending numerous hours to level up or paying a small price to level up quickly so I can 100% a game I really enjoy, but don't want to grind for hours on to reach lv. 99, nor do I want to. I, for one, am glad this kind of DLC exists. Nobody is twisting anybody's arm to get it. If you want to save time, here you go. I also know sales are complete shite for this game so throwing some extra money at the developer and getting rewards in return is worth it to me. I really like this game, a lot and I hope this is a series that can continue.
Yeah atlus one of the worst with this scummy design Constant gating obvious benefits to players for money they don't need Don't buy the dlcs people let this practice take the hit
Ever since Atlus first introduced DLC starting with SMT4 I knew it would only be downhill from there. If you think they will get a clue and stop making even more scummy dlc I wouldn't hold your breath.
It seems I don’t have to feel bad about forgetting that this game even released, now. After how much a disappointment SMTV was, why should I think this game would be any better? I guess they were merely fundraisers for Persona 6. Well, they ain’t getting my money this time!
eh for me it kinda is i love anything overpowered and ive got no issues paying for it and those bitching "oh there locking fan favorites behind a paywall" i couldnt give a crap about any of these demons outside nemissa and honestly i wouldnt mind paying 20 or 30 bucks for a pack of just my two favorites (alice and beelzebub) alone if it meant i got early access to them lol hell i wouldnt mind giving them another 60 bucks just to add those two to soul hackers 2
....Welp this is really disappointing. Still waiting for a price drop and they really shouldn't have made most or all of this as dlc. The demons are especially egregious since it's not like they are pallette swaps or offer a story. To me, with how you can get them for free in game, it feels like the item dlc. Only Nemissa seems to be unique.
The Lost Numbers? Oh, like Xenoblade 3! Man, seeing how not-worth-it this whole game is, Day 1 DLC and all, makes me so happy Xenoblade 3 is as incredible as it is. It's basically the anti-Soul Hackers 2. - Fun gameplay with depth surpassing any other game in its franchise. - A fantastic story, characters who are actual good characters, not just clique archetypes (unlike XB2). - Some of the best side-content I've experienced in a game, taking stories that would've bloated the main story and giving them room to breathe in their own space while maintaining their relevance (unlike XB2's disconnected, disjointed Blade quests). - DLC that STARTED development AFTER the base game was already finished and being prepped for worldwide release (despite its alarming reveal a month before the game's launch) Xenoblade 3 carries 2022 for me, softening the blow that is Soul Hackers 2's disappointment. Atlus seriously need to take notes from Monolith Soft right now (which they kind of did with SMT V's world design). But anyway, if anyone's looking for Megami Tensei alternatives till Atlus get their shit together, I recommend The Lost Child and Undernauts. The former has demon-collecting mechanics and an intimate environment reminiscent of the first Soul Hackers, while the latter is a dungeon-crawler with a dark, oppressive atmosphere like older SMT games. Feel free to recommend any other alternatives I've missed out. I've heard Digimon Survive is a pretty good time if you don't mind visual novel segments.
Lol Xeno blade 3 is trash compared to persona 5 or The tales games. And don't get me started on the visual novel trash just watch a anime 🤣 instead of buying a reading game.
@@Twostraightwhitemalesreact I've seen better bait than this. All I'll say is you need to play more games and broaden your horizon if you genuinely believe Persona 5 is a better game, because it's clear to me you haven't even touched a Xenoblade game (or at least one that isn't 2)
Locking story content behind DLCs is unforgivable, heck locking any content developed alongside the game itself behind and additional paywall is unforgiveable
Like bruh, wtf atlus
It frustrates me that Atlus have been getting away with this for about 9 years now. They might have been able to get away with it when the games were good overall, but from Apocalypse onwards, when they start falling short in areas they really shouldn't, AND keep pulling anti-consumer crap like this, it's hard to ignore it anymore.
Idk personally story type content is the only type of dlc i am ever inclined to buy at all
But if something is a plothole without a dlc...yeah
@@namoma4922 I also agree about story dlc but my main problem is that this was made alongside the base game so theres no reason (besides money) that this should be dlc
And yet they've gotten away with it since SMT IV's release
Atlus' awful DLC practices strike again. 40 dollars of Day One DLC, Oh god no. All of that should have been included in the game.
To add salt to injury in a year from now when switch owners getting SH2 with DLC included into the cartridge
Thank you Atlus for nostalgia baiting whales with stuff that shouldve been in the base game.
very cool
Atlus knows that nostalgia sells and that's how they get more money from their consumers. Really bad behavior.
I appreciate very much the integrity of both reviews, man, and I very much hope it won't end up biting you back in the future (as in, no further chance of sponsorships).
I overall agree with you (both on the general opinion on the DLCs value and/or Atlus' "standard" DLC practices, including the surprise to the somewhat disproportionate reaction against it, at least if we compare it to previous DLC packages that were available). But also, I can't help but feel sad and a bit anxious in a way at seeing a lot/most people skipping/postponing the game's purchase. And the reason for that is simple: I fear that Atlus won't take the low number with constructive criticism, thinking about their marketing and (some) bad design choices, but instead they will think something the likes of _"the game didn't sell because people didn't find a female main lead appealing, back to silent male protagonists it is"._
Being honest here: I do like silent protagonists, never had much problem with them, really. But I also don't necessarily mind protagonists who have their own personalities. And, as someone who actually DIDN'T LIKE AT ALL Ringo's design back when she was announced... I nibbled enough of the game to say that her quips and attitude have grown on me. As such, I just hope Atlus gives a chance to any/both of these traits (female lead and/or talking protag) to shine further in future games.
So you would rather he sell out and lie to the viewers for said free stuff? Logic?
@@omensoffate I never wrote anything like that, y'know, and you really shouldn't misinterpret my words negatively for the sake of being a contrarian.
I simply stated that I hope the review "wouldn't bite his back"; as in, Atlus refusing to give other codes for sponsorship in the future, due to "bad publicity" (saw it happen to other content creators in the past, with other sponsors). Never said anything about accommodating them though.
If I didn't care about the review in the first place, I wouldn't have written a thing. I do care about Atlus giving him a code, BECAUSE I care about seeing more genuine reviews like these.
Remember that we got the review in the first place BECAUSE of Atlus gifting a code. Sadly, while a virtue, honestly is not always rewarded, and I pray Atlus' marketing dep. proves itself forward-thinking enough, understanding that even a dissonant (yet objective) voice can have its benefits.
No, smt spinoffs and smt in general is dead now, its persona only company now. And rip fither atlus sponsorship in the future lol kekw.
@@trueaegisform6811 If, to have more, we ought to call all that'll come to pass and be made by Atlus' hands, from this day onward, as _"Persona spin-off"..._ So be it, I say.
*A small price to pay for **-copium-** salvation.*
12:30 Just a note kinda for everyone, it’s actually the same dungeon pasted 45 times and Nana is not the challenge they’re referring to
At floors 10 and 15 of the dungeon there are requests that ask you to go all the way up to the first floor of a second dungeon(that’s the same floors with small differences) which gives you items that null the debuffs of Nana, making her fight quite trivial
The ‘super boss’ the game is referring to is after Nana and requires you to go through 5 extra levels that provide you with special items for each summoner, normal battles with demons from lvl 70-95 and then the super boss of which you then unlock the lvl 98 fusion and the best accessory in the game(stat wise)
Thank you, this was very useful 👍.
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It’s funny seeing people already complain about DLC and I can’t even access my own DLC I bought. Thanks Atlus.
EXP and Cash DLC in Config
Nana and Lost Numbers DLC: progress after the first dungeon
Kasumi costume DLC moment
Altus: Makes a game where capitalism, among other things, has stagnated and ruined human society.
Also Atlus: Hey, we know you gotta pay $59.99 just to get our game, but check out this DAY ONE DLC we already have made, but won’t put it in the $60 base game. You can have this totally not overpriced DLC for $39.99, only a little more than HALF the price of the base game! ORDER NOW!
I love how the collectors edition has a Aiho-kun figurine, but then still requires you to buy additional dlc to actual use them in game after already spending 200 bucks
Not only that, but that frost is also locked behind digital premium so it’s basically a 90 dollar demon
They pulled that shit with SMT V too. I bought the Premium Edition for £100, not even knowing there was day 1 DLC for the game, and I didn't even get that with the package. SMT V was the last straw for me, especially when I already found its story lacklustre compared to other mainline games, so to see Soul Hackers 2 fail at everything it does AND have worse DLC practices? Pffft, no thanks.
On the plus side, Xenoblade 3 is a masterpiece. I'm still playing it and loving every second, a full month after its launch, and it's more than made up for Soul Hackers 2's disappointment. Well worth its full price.
@@NintendanGX at least smt V had possibly the second best combat in the entire franchise, so I can cut it some slack. Doesn't look like sh2 succeeded in any area so that's a shame.
And yeah, xenoblade 3 is a legit masterpiece- great story, great combat, great characters, and just an absurd amount of content and customization. I'm 128 hours in and still have a ton to do. It's easily my goty and one of the best jrpgs I've ever played, and for that I'll be more than willing to pay the 30 bucks for the DLC based on monoliths previous dlc expansions like torna
Fither is never getting a review copy after this😭
Thats exactly what i do when i look at dlc. I look at what i could buy with the money that is much better. I have a wishlist of games and indie games that i could just buy and get a full experience
Soul Hackers 2 Any% No DLC: IDK like a 6 hour speedrun
Soul Hackers 2 Any% DLC: 2 and a half hours, just because it takes a bit to get the OP stuff
Soul Hackers 2 NG+ No DLC: 2 hours
Let’s compare this dlc to another series dlc that cost the same price monster hunter rise sunbreak adds in new monster, old monster, really old monsters form gen 3, a new story, 1 old map and a new map plus a new hub ALL FOR 40 dollars
Or you could just compare it to smt 5 where only one of the dlc demons was new the other 2 were already dlc from the previous game and then 9-10 iconic demons are dlc because of nocturne coming out a few months prior rise sunbreak expansion gives way more value then most of what atlus gives not a really good comparison
First Soul Hackers not only was complete game on 3DS, but Atlus also gave FOR FREE extra content like bonus dungeon, side quests (Omphalos, and Dr Trill) and super bosses fights (Belzebub, Lilith, Sid Davis, Kioji Kuzunoha, Raidou Kuzunoha, Omagatsu). That was last game from Atlus without DLC bs.
Honestly from what I could see the DLC from Atlus in general seems to be hella mid. SMTV only had the Demi fiend fight and like, 3 or 4 new demons to fight and use. P5 and P5R was just "Hey have these Broken DLC personas plus outfits with music probably" which is optional but still underwhelming. It's cool but the DLC feels so bland and not even worth it once you buy it. SMT4 and 4A was decent enough but then the ball was not just dropped, but volleyball spiked once PQ and PQ2 came along where you just get some personas and extra music tracks.
Not to mention most of these games have DAY ONE dlc which is horrible and people are not talking about it enough
@@dorcasmutton6335 the worst ones being the EXP and Money grind DLCs since someone could, in most cases, pay a small $4/£6 for both and just rush the game on their first playthrough and then either complain that the game is too easy on the hardest difficulty, or claim the game is too easy compared to older titles.
I actually really liked the iv/iva dlcs because at least they had a little story attached to a boss fight before you could get a demon
The iva Beach one with Navarre and his little water wings was hilarious
@@PluckyJackson yeah I have to agree, IV and IVA's DLC was actually good and worth it, plus you actually had to fight the Demons to earn fusion them.
Also fighting Stephan is the pinnacle of Megaten fanservice.
@What I Say Will Trigger You how stupid do you think I am my guy
welp there goes your persona 6 early review code 😂 still appreciate the honesty tho
I appreciate the honest review on the dlc. This does feel like an experiment for future dlcs.
Reminds me of the tales games now with the package costumes. Kinda miss just doing weird ass sidequests to get a free costume.
Experiment?
@@KamenracerX the usual "test" some companies do to see how far they can go with dlc
Damn, mad respect for the most blunt and honest sponsored videos I've ever seen. Will check out Max Payne, never played the originals
I was considering the Demon and story DLC, but I'm glad this talked me out of it. The new demons look cool but I can just buy them for a NG+ run or something. Story boss looks annoying too and the 13 floor tower is definitely poor design. Also, LOL that Atlus basically paid you to tell us how shit this all is.
9:33 had me in the first half not gonna lie
9:04 "Tzit-zi-mi-me"
I think this is like the first time ever i saw everyone collectively come together and say ‘’NO!’’ to Atlus’s day 1 DLC bullshit.
Atlus should go back to just charging an extra $10 for the base game. I happily paid the "Atlus Tax" for years on 3DS. I get that boutique games will cost more. I guess this way, they make the tax optional. And it may not even be their choice to price the game on these platforms...
I appreciate the honesty, glad you made this. It informed me of alot
10:35 OMFG THE SOLD US A SHITTIER TARTURUS FROM PERSONA 3!
I dont remember which one came out first but Devil Survivor 2 remake had dlc if smt iv wasn't the first
SMT IV was first. Devil Survivor 2 RB came out after, in 2015.
Throwback to when their DLC was at least reasonably priced
What sucks the is that the outfits only show up during battle. While story scenes and even walking around uses the basic outfit.
Titzmitl is iconic to me, she carried me through the chaos path zelenin boss fight in my first run of Strange Journey.
Another impressive showing from atlus in the competition for most scummy dlc, possibly even a new record! Can't wait to see how they outdo themselves next!
You know, everything about this game is just Mid. And that is the worst fate for a game. You're not remembered for being good, you're not infamous for being bad, you're just mid. And you're forgotten
Well, time for me to buy Nocturne HD instead.
Nocturne is an amazing game
HD version sucks
the remaster is still better than the original game and the original game is amazing so please enjoy it
Good game but i wouldn't pay full price for nocturne.
@@ThetrueHeero only bad if you already played the original, if not then it is the better option
Very informative,thanks. Now I don’t have to pay for the extra story dlc.
If anything I'd MAYBE get the Lost Episode DLC when it goes on sale, other than that unless it's the free Very Hard DLC than NOPE!
I think it’s worth to use items to level up from saving time otherwise the bosses will destroy you
8:38 Or they could've done something like the 11th Floor of the Sea Ark when you fight bosses to do NG+ and locking some stuff behind NG+ to give reasons to play it again
This DLC is mocking all of the Physical Collectors. Not only is it an extra purchase, it also has Ringo Frost and Maid Costume locked behind the digital premium exclusive bundle. Then the same company will repost our physical collections every Friday on social media… They want us post how much we adore their products, but then give more content to the ones who don’t collect their products physically. It just feels like such a gut punch. I’m honestly so over their bullshit at this point to where I’m just not buying the whole game. (Edit: same goes for the phantom thieves costumes locked behind digital pre orders… so another thing I can’t have even if I pre ordered physically)
Bro, Tzitzimitl is one of my favorite demons 😢
Short Answer:No
Long Answer: Nooooooooooooo
With $40 you could buy Neon White for $25 instead *smile*
2:11 this is the face of nightmares. like that one from Courage The Cowardly Dog
is that DLC dungeon the training hall from Raidou games?
Good on you for being honest, Fither. May your Atlus review code privelidges rest in peace xD
Everytime Fither starts with Ayyyyyy I smile
I feel like Day One dlc or even buying the game early shouldn’t be a thing I’ll wait until the actual release day
most people don't remember this but the unnecessary bundles of DLC is ALSO not new to Atlus because 3/5 Dancing had bundled DLC as well exclusively in Europe, Australia and New Zealand. Americans and Japanese people got to buy 1 track or 1 costume just fine but everything was bundled in those territories so you HAD to spend HUNDREDS of extra dollars. It's how I've literally spent a grand AUD on JUST the Dance games.
Yes! I was waiting for the "really really really" 😂
just wait until they release Soul Hackers 2 Royal (or deluxe or whatever) and they charge a single price for all the dlc and the base game and for everyone who bought the game originally to get mad
Imagine how bad DLC practices will be in Persona 6.
Tbh I doubt they'll be that bad or at the very least nobody will care because... well it's Persona and there's no such thing as a bad (mainline) Persona game
this video gives off big caddicarus playstation sponsored review vibes
i got the lvl up and currency boost DLC and I only turned it on a couple times and occasionally use them when I'm a lvl or 2 a way from a demon I want or same for a move from a demon. i did not use them much since when I first had it on I saw how broken it could be
It's not worth it at all. Day 1 DLC should NEVER be supported.
I only purchased the costume DLCs so that I can play the battle themes and set it on random.
I don't understand locking normal demons behind a paywall
I realy should watch TH-cam exclusively on my laptop
The DLC Is fine. I hate have to grind for hours
Honestly I'd probably just wait for the inevitable remaster for free dlc. Though eh I like soul hackers more and hoped that devil summoner 1 for psp gets its eng patch implemented. I heard it was done but never implemented for some reason
It's worth it when you need a lot of money early on, cuz re summoning demons from the Compendium is HELLA EXPENSIVE.
And the five percent discounts that happen after you complete certain quests doesn't make much difference.
Instead of sh2, you can buy literally any other megaten game if not multiple
Re 'Lost Numbers'
Are you saying you DON'T get Nana as an extra team member?!!
I got the impression from the description that she was going to be a new member of the team. I'm sure I'm not the only person to get this impression!
Re Booster Items:
I absolutely agree that these can completly break your game!!
You can farm these from the easiest first dungeon and each item always levels up 1 so you can farm level 2 enemies when you are level 90!
It make normal grinding for levels pointless.
Wait, I have all the DLC but I have barely any of those outfits, what gives? I also don't have the new story either, is it that easy to miss?
Persona 6 will have 1 day dlc.
Worst part about most of the DLC is, even though I got it, I won't use it cause they break the game or I wanna experience the base game... One day I'll learn
So I was thinking about getting the story dlc but I’ll wait till it’s on sale lol
Didn't Atlas publish Super Robot Wars original generation
Agreed that DMC5 is the best pure action game of all time.
14:28 I finished NV for the first time recently and woo boy... SMT looks like a child's game in dialogue and choices compared to this one.
New Vegas writing , world building and story clears most of Megaten games.
@@alsaiduq4363 Clears even most of other Fallout games for that matter lol.
This video, along with your other review, just cemented my decision to wait until it's either on sale for $20 or for a potential "enhanced" port on Switch like Royal is getting. I was super excited in February when the teaser site went up, a bit deflated when Switch was excluded and then turned off when I saw the general aesthetic of the game. OG Soul Hackers, while incredibly dated, was enjoyable on the 3DS. Not a fan of the neon aesthetic. Looks like a mix of Persona 5 and Astral Chain, and while both games are awesome on their own, it just looks bland here. Oh well, hopefully they learn from this and at least try to do something other than Diet Persona for the next spinoff. But this is Atlus we're talking about. Project Re:Fantasy is probably just Persona with elves and dragons at this point
I believed they would make a nice game with no day 1 DLC, but I'm not surprised they did it, I'm surprised they made the game itself mixed for gameplay n story, I'm pretty much skippin
seeing atlus go this route doesn't surprise me. I haven't supported them in years, and I will continue to abstain from giving them one single red cent.
If you have a moment to answer my question : can you play as the new character (Nana) at some point?
I don't mind spending $30 for a quest-line that rewards these cool stuff, but getting them just like that feels a bit cheap.
Small indie company, pls understand and consoom, atlus deserves it. :)
They knew what they were doing when they made Mara DLC. To see people pay for D.
I'm skipping this one entirely. I get it's a budget title trying some new things but taking steps back even from Nocturne seems counterproductive to building off P5R and SMT V's innovations. Heck the OG Soul Hackers had demon recruitment far better than whatever this game opted to do.
Isn't the next month the last for the 25th anniversary?
Would you mind telling me what aiho's soul hax and sabbath love skills do?
soul hax- 50% health revive for one ally
sabbath love- ability you can activate during a sabbath that heals your party/gets rid of ailments
@@brandonw3203 thank you so much
For what it's worth, I think I needed to get to the safehouse first, but the costume DLC worked fine for me on Steam.
The way I see it when you have a life full of responsibilities that don't afford the luxury of unlimited hours to sink into a game, this level up DLC is a godsend. I don't see the complaint about me either spending numerous hours to level up or paying a small price to level up quickly so I can 100% a game I really enjoy, but don't want to grind for hours on to reach lv. 99, nor do I want to.
I, for one, am glad this kind of DLC exists. Nobody is twisting anybody's arm to get it. If you want to save time, here you go. I also know sales are complete shite for this game so throwing some extra money at the developer and getting rewards in return is worth it to me.
I really like this game, a lot and I hope this is a series that can continue.
Yeah atlus one of the worst with this scummy design
Constant gating obvious benefits to players for money they don't need
Don't buy the dlcs people let this practice take the hit
Ever since Atlus first introduced DLC starting with SMT4 I knew it would only be downhill from there. If you think they will get a clue and stop making even more scummy dlc I wouldn't hold your breath.
You were too late Fither! I saw this video right after I purchased the big deluxe edition
I don’t get it. Switch gets SMT V and then the 4k systems and pc gets this. The games not bad but geez i was expecting next gen SMT.
It seems I don’t have to feel bad about forgetting that this game even released, now.
After how much a disappointment SMTV was, why should I think this game would be any better?
I guess they were merely fundraisers for Persona 6.
Well, they ain’t getting my money this time!
The game is not worth it
I'd say it is if it's on sale. The characters and story are great but the gameplay... The less said the better
shady business practices on a Persona spin-off game. sheesh
Man my decision to skip this game looking better and better.
your tamnale is bad you shoulnt give me a quasten and then answer it in the tamnale at all
The tamnale
the tamnale
eh for me it kinda is i love anything overpowered and ive got no issues paying for it and those bitching "oh there locking fan favorites behind a paywall" i couldnt give a crap about any of these demons outside nemissa and honestly i wouldnt mind paying 20 or 30 bucks for a pack of just my two favorites (alice and beelzebub) alone if it meant i got early access to them lol hell i wouldnt mind giving them another 60 bucks just to add those two to soul hackers 2
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Atlus bootlicker
I can't tell you how to spend your money but man that sounds terrible.
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Arrows face looks so fucking goofy in this game lol. He looks like one of those old school anime characters with really pointy chins
....Welp this is really disappointing. Still waiting for a price drop and they really shouldn't have made most or all of this as dlc. The demons are especially egregious since it's not like they are pallette swaps or offer a story. To me, with how you can get them for free in game, it feels like the item dlc. Only Nemissa seems to be unique.
5:52 Nemissa Demon?!
The Lost Numbers? Oh, like Xenoblade 3! Man, seeing how not-worth-it this whole game is, Day 1 DLC and all, makes me so happy Xenoblade 3 is as incredible as it is. It's basically the anti-Soul Hackers 2.
- Fun gameplay with depth surpassing any other game in its franchise.
- A fantastic story, characters who are actual good characters, not just clique archetypes (unlike XB2).
- Some of the best side-content I've experienced in a game, taking stories that would've bloated the main story and giving them room to breathe in their own space while maintaining their relevance (unlike XB2's disconnected, disjointed Blade quests).
- DLC that STARTED development AFTER the base game was already finished and being prepped for worldwide release (despite its alarming reveal a month before the game's launch)
Xenoblade 3 carries 2022 for me, softening the blow that is Soul Hackers 2's disappointment. Atlus seriously need to take notes from Monolith Soft right now (which they kind of did with SMT V's world design).
But anyway, if anyone's looking for Megami Tensei alternatives till Atlus get their shit together, I recommend The Lost Child and Undernauts. The former has demon-collecting mechanics and an intimate environment reminiscent of the first Soul Hackers, while the latter is a dungeon-crawler with a dark, oppressive atmosphere like older SMT games. Feel free to recommend any other alternatives I've missed out. I've heard Digimon Survive is a pretty good time if you don't mind visual novel segments.
Lol Xeno blade 3 is trash compared to persona 5 or The tales games. And don't get me started on the visual novel trash just watch a anime 🤣 instead of buying a reading game.
@@Twostraightwhitemalesreact I've seen better bait than this. All I'll say is you need to play more games and broaden your horizon if you genuinely believe Persona 5 is a better game, because it's clear to me you haven't even touched a Xenoblade game (or at least one that isn't 2)
All the DLC is on sale rn on the ps store so this helped me make my decision. Thanks.
better things to buy: soul hackers 1
Japanese companies are awful with dlc. I mean DLC for P5R really?
I have a question. Is the name fither a reference to Fuhrer from p2?
Skip to 10:33 then read this an thank me later: no
Well no unless your a die hard SMT fan Persona only fans the doors over their see your self out 🚪