Gordhan vs Mpofu: A day of heated exchanges at Zondo Commission
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- Former Sars commissioner Tom Moyane cross-examined Minister of Public Enterprises Pravin Gordhan at the state capture commission on 30 November 2020. Gordhan and Advocate Dali Mpofu, who is representing Moyane, shared a number of heated exchanges. Here are some of the key moments from the day’s testimony.
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I don't like what the Chair is doing, he's shielding this guy, instead of insisting that he answers the question
Indeed 😌
At least he is at the comission answering questions. Not like some scared "would be" leader running for all he is worth from the commission.
That's why Zuma is always crying of him
@@johnsmit7203 why would he not attend if he knows he's shielded? Rather, this is the reason why those who are not shielded chose not to attend such
Instablaster...
People point out Mpofu's recklessness, and ignore Gordhan's arrogance and undermining the whole State Capture Commission.
Raymond Zondo is biased and it's just over like to everybody that he is on Gordans side and now this Gordan can't even answer a one question yes or no we as Xhosa people always know that there is a lie beyond the the explanation they could hire a white lawyer to prosecute this guy bcz now Dali is desrespected maybe bcz of his colour
Gordhan does it on response to Dalis arrogance so it would work both ways
Pravin learned today, that when you hear the name Advocate Dali Mpofu, you will put some respect on it! Provo Dali!
Dali saying “I’m not you. Thank God”. That was a good one 😂
Is this even real?
Sorry mate, that was just a cheap shot which resulted in Mpofu losing respect. He should have stuck to the facts like when he asked Gordhan what has not filing leave forms have anything to do with State Capture.
@@rohp1283 he wouldn’t have done that if Godhan was not as condescending
He wasn't clever enough to use Gordhan's condescension against him, instead he resorted to doing the same. If Mpofu stuck to the script Gordhan would have looked as the only donkey twaddle, now both do.
@@rohp1283 I blame the chair. He seems to be on Gordhans side and seem to be kind of shielding him
For you guys who think that this was good lawyering, you don't have a clue. It was crass and demonstrated a lack of class and professionalism that belongs in a banana republic not a proper democracy like SA.
Dali you are so sarcastic. Answer the questions Pravin.
The Chair seems scared of Gordhan
He is scared of him that one is very clear mmmmh and now i see why is Zuma got no respect for this commission
I didn't get that at all. Chair is dealing with Gordhan just fine. Gordhan is trying to be difficult and Mpofu is falling for it by being equally difficult. Chair is dealing with this difficult situation and is handling it fairly well.
@@rohp1283 look at what the Chair is not saying... read between the lines. At no point does the Chair require Gordhan to conduct himself respectfully. The Chair allows Gordhan to dogde straight forward and simple questions. The objective of this commission is to get answers from Gordhan but the Chair does not insist on answers so that the commission can be able to do its job. That’s why my friend I say he seems scared of Gordhan. With other witnesses the Chair always guides and insist on the questions to be answered by the witnesses but with Gordhan appear to treat him special. You can see the Chairs body language when he address Gordhan that he takes a posture as if he is addressing his master.
@@siyamateta7521 Chair was not afraid of Zuma, I don't see why he'd be afraid of Gordhan
Very true
Why is the chair not telling Gordon to answer questions?
Very good question!!!
He is the darling of the commission
@@bongumusamanqele154 Dali has a side comment for every answer and if he does not lik the answer, he gets frustrated and interupts the witness. I mean, does he want a 1 liner like Dudu, aka, i refuse to answer incase incriminate, or proper, taughtful answers? for example, on the question of Zuma, Gordon replies , but Mpofu does not lik the answer, so get frustrated and throws a tantrum. On the question of racism, Gordon says that he is not racist and telling som1 to grow up is not racist, but Dali, boyfriend ga Winnie does not lik the answer, so gets frustrated. On the question of Sars Unit, Gordon answers that the Unit which did not proceed within the Security cluster was canceled and another unit was formed under the sars rule, 2 different units..Dali does not lik the answer so gets frustrated.. while Gordon is answers, we can here noices comin from Dali. The man is getin old and representing crooks is makin him a miserable man. its a shame
Where does Dudu's delinquency form part here?
@theonefighter Red yes, they wer roosting on malemas farm which he bought using corrupt monies from on point engineering.. then he moves them to the house belonging to smuggler and fraudster Mazotti.. then monies from vbs seem to pay for som of his family things.. many more.. thats y his chickens are roosting at the commsion as they are also lookin into malema.. so he sent mpofu ter to try and destabalize but he failed.. mpofu should decide if he wants to be a lawyer or politician? he has ruined the good name he once had.. maybe he is now showing his true colors..
The prime minister is protected by chair of the commission I'm disappointed
WHAT DID YOU EXPECT REALLY🙄🙄🙄🙄
Mpofu got an attitude and have no respect for the law. He needs to change his ways of doing things,otherwise he'll have a tough time in future.
What law 😂
How did Zondo allow Pravin to be so arrogant and disrespectful? Wasn't Sikhakhane right to say some witnesses are fovored?
The people's advocate is not here to play
Which people? 😂 tell us so they can be part of this embarrassment.
@@warewolf4760 This commission is not important according to you.
@theonefighter Red Yoh! What's wrong with you?
@@lebogangsetlhaba7391 then why would he comment on the discussion forum?
He is just a pharmasits what integrity😂😂😂 des van rooyen had an accounting degree
Pravin is dodging questions
That's what he is good at
@@warewolf4760 Loool what a joke😂😂
@@warewolf4760BS pravin is one of the people who dragged us to junk status corrupt to the core
@Robert ukrnyeah right🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@zekhethelokhumalo8298 could you ever be more delusional? It was the removal of Pravin as finance minister that caused junk status... Please thank Mr Zuma for that. My man get your facts straight before you attempt to bash a minister's character without any evidence. Mark my words Mr Mpofu will soon be facing deformation charges!! How can he (in a public space) call Pravin jealous or RACIST without any basis or supporting evidence? Also Mr Mpofu asked the same question 5 times and got the same answer 5 times why did he get frustrated? There were no dodging of questions because Mr Mpofu did not ask simple yes or no questions. He merely attempted to ask questions in a way that maybe misconstrued with any explanation... Hence Mr Pravin explained every answer he provided in a clear and logical sequence. Mr Mpofu knows that what he was attempting was a long shot to discredit a very reliable witness, hence he was getting frustrated and impatient. He is a terrible example of law practice, in all honesty his is an embarrassment to the law society.
Mpofu we a PROUD of u this Pravin thinks he is untouchable he failed to answer simple questions of YES n NO
PL
🙄 What are the intentions here, for the benefits of the state or an individual?
Dali is the loose cannon we needed🔥🔥
We want him to cannon your father , Cyril also. 😂😂😂😂
Gordan is Running away with the truth
lets say for example your are in court for killing someone in self defence, then the lawyers ask you to respond with yes or no, "did you kill him?" those are tricky question thats anyone would find hard to answer.
@theonefighter Red admitting killing someone its crime, off couse you guilty.
Cross examination is lawful is lawyers work Dali Mpofu is doing his work
Isn't your father, Cyril also. 😂😂😂😂
keep on cornering him Dali you went alone to the University. He must answer the questions .I don't know whether this is leading to fights.
Hahahahaha
Yes he studied alone wena🤣
He is the worst i have seen
He really went to university alone🤣🤣🤣
@@andreswanepoel4002 and he wins cases and very difficult ones.
Surely Pravin laughed hard after this, having seen his disrespect sinking deep into the people's advocate's nerves and the chair feezing at the corner
Dali Mpofu just like Malema might have valid points but arrogance is killing his carrer
Did u see his career dying?
@@DoveyTriorsa 😂😂😂😂😹😹😹😹
Yes I saw it
Hes up against the big fish of white supremacists..what do u expect? Flowers ?
What career you are obsessed with employee mentality
Yes I'm not you, thank God
,😂😂🤣😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️💔💔 😂😂😂
yes or no
That's a racist thing to say.
And thank God I am not the one to ask a question again when it was answered already. The world knows that it's stupid to do that. Damn 30 percenters. 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂eish
Now i c why malema is saying Gordon is untouchable he even controls judges
Good Mr Mpofu to reprimand disrespectful Pravin in front of Zondo.
the are so many truth in what EFF members are always saying abwt this ANC corrupt ppl jst watch the space the truth wil come out one of the good days
mpofu is racist
Exactly
Dali Mpofu lost it, the witness was not intimidated by the aggressive stance
No he didn't the Zondo is shielding Gordon when mpofu questions Zondo is making mpofu as if is wrong sumple question do you have the evidence yes or no .zondo is supposed to say mr gordan answer the question only then we move on
Dakiwe
@@mlungisimasinda7117 9
HE DID NOT SOOOO DIFFICULT TO INTERROGATE A LIAR A CHEATER WHERE IS THE VOICE ANALYSIS MACHINE???
I personally think Dali Mpofu is so arrogant... I might be wrong
No you are not.
Arrogance is a sign of great weakness
This was so emotional and hard to listen to yho! I’m traumatized
When is that lady coming back, that one was gonna deal with Gordan
She's very powerful that 1
If she is so good (which I doubt)
then she should deal with Dali Mpofu
"I'm not you, thank God"... Well said Mr Mpofu
That was deep 😂😂😂
well said
Mpofu you are a good lawyer
Sizakubafumana aba in all levels of the society
If this is the quality of "Cross examination" I pity the ANC
ANC adv Dali mpofu is with tbe EFF
@@Shauno860 zb...
Sorry
So. Sad. Sir
So. Corecet Core get
@micke momberg 👍🏽
Everyone in the comments against the commission cause it's there fav on the stand today. Double standard in this country. Let the commission unfold all illegal tactic used by officials and business personal to have undue influence on decions being made. This will help to avoid many future problems as a results of irregularities in gorvenment.
Cheap tactics by mpofu, am so embarrassed
This is a clear indication that the commission was created for certain individuals, here we witness the chair failing to compel the witness to answer questions. I now support the submission made by President Zuma, Zondo must reduce himself from chairing the commission
I partly agree
The word is "recuse" Mongezi. And you cannot force a witness to answer a question. Not even in court. And if, as a fair number of people on this comments session think, he will incriminate homself, he has a right not to answer. Law of evidence 101.
When a witness does not answer a question though, it is the commisioner / court's right to draw a negative inference to the fact that he (the witness) did not answer. So, in not answering, a witness does so at his own peril.
@@johnsmit7203 thanks
@@johnsmit7203 the word is "himself" John. Infuture if you understand what the person wanted to say, just read and leave him alone. I'm sure he wasn't born speaking English nor writing it. You must be happy he tried. You won't even meet him half way in his own language.
MPOFU Lost this One . . . His arrogance & aggressive style did not Intimidate the witness at all, instead he only got frustrated & angry.
To all that are so blinded , the truth is that the state is captured .this cross questioning and saying either Yes or No cannot and will not work.Remember state capture is a long list of events with many players in each department playing their role ! It is very difficult if you are not allowed to give a flow of events that you witnessed and believe the person in question was certainly a contributor! Let us not delude our selves we know who the camp of the thugs are and how they operated! In a nutshell tom knows in his heart of hearts he played his role in it
there is a VOICE ANALYSIS MACHINE WHERE IS IT????
That's my advocate.....Dali you are the best advocate I like the strength in you.
Difficult to watch when Mpofu is being disrespected like that. The emotions got the better of him.
Agrippa what are you talking about Mpofu is a rude arrogant man , Gee i canr stand him he gets personal , very rude guy
Dali has a side comment for every answer and if he does not lik the answer, he gets frustrated and interupts the witness. I mean, does he want a 1 liner like Dudu, aka, i refuse to answer incase incriminate, or proper, taughtful answers? for example, on the question of Zuma, Gordon replies , but Mpofu does not lik the answer, so get frustrated and throws a tantrum. On the question of racism, Gordon says that he is not racist and telling som1 to grow up is not racist, but Dali, boyfriend ga Winnie does not lik the answer, so gets frustrated. On the question of Sars Unit, Gordon answers that the Unit which did not proceed within the Security cluster was canceled and another unit was formed under the sars rule, 2 different units..Dali does not lik the answer so gets frustrated.. while Gordon is answers, we can here noices comin from Dali. The man is getin old and representing crooks is makin him a miserable man. its a shame
Mpofu is not being professional,
It happens if you are weak
@@jabumalinga1943 lol you keep on repeating the same comment why ?
Is mpofu really a silk? I mean rejected as lawyer for the eff ... and we can see why
Judge Judy ( Dali Mpofu ) has watched to much television....
Mpofu is doing that to himself, it’s the way he asks questions that expose him to this thoughtless minister abuse. He is emotional, lawyers should not be emotional when asking questions.
If you want to go to prison regarding a parking ticket....ask Dali to defend you.
You are white Neh??
@@mandlankosi8594 Yes. So?
U will be defended by Afriforum lawyers
@@mamadidikgale6435 Well, they do tend to win. Unlike Ben10.....
@@mamadidikgale6435 Hi Samuel. Just a short reply. It is not a new fenomonen. When ever the left and un-informed people loose a argument, they will pull the race card. Winson Churchill's quote. " Never get into a argument with an idiot. He will pull you down to his level and beat you at it. " Sounds like Julius.
Why is Gordan talking like a Criminal??
If it works like a duck then it is a duck
Dali has a side comment for every answer and if he does not lik the answer, he gets frustrated and interupts the witness. I mean, does he want a 1 liner like Dudu, aka, i refuse to answer incase incriminate, or proper, taughtful answers? for example, on the question of Zuma, Gordon replies , but Mpofu does not lik the answer, so get frustrated and throws a tantrum. On the question of racism, Gordon says that he is not racist and telling som1 to grow up is not racist, but Dali, boyfriend ga Winnie does not lik the answer, so gets frustrated. On the question of Sars Unit, Gordon answers that the Unit which did not proceed within the Security cluster was canceled and another unit was formed under the sars rule, 2 different units..Dali does not lik the answer so gets frustrated.. while Gordon is answering, we can here noises comin from Dali. The man is getin old and representing crooks is makin him a miserable man. its a shame
@Robert ukrn you do know that Pravin is an ANC member!?,him and Dudu!!!same WhatsApp group!
All of the anc is corrupt, wether it's cr 17 or ndz same whatsapp group period
@theonefighter Red ABCD EFF.
Oh what an arrogant rude lawyer
Correct 👏💯
And Pravin is civil? Sies man
This guys exactly why Zuma’s behind bars right now, he’s a legal delinquent no clue on law just an emotional wreck
For this type ofPeople you have to be a professional person full of experience of such cases, 'cause these type of people like Pravin when they do such things they really have their ready answers. Oh.Oh Dali stay alert. Otherwise you will have many questions without answers from this Pravin.
A GIVEN DALI IS ALERT THESE ARE PROFESSIONAL LIARS LOOTERS🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
That's unfair proceeding. We know Dali's political stance and it's of a opposition party to what Pravin is. It surely will be personal and political.
Mpofu " Yes I am not you , thank God"
That's super arrogant
@@20924352sv who wants to be Pravin 😂😂😂 Yhooh yaayy, I heard that guy is too evil, I wouldn't want to be him mna, mpofu knows him better he know what he mean by thanking God he is not him
@@mkdempisi god help those who don't know what arrogance is.
@@20924352sv Stand up for what you believe in, even if it means standing alone 👍
Gordan: I'm not you
Dali: yes I'm not you thanks God
😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that finished me.
I to will never want to a dali
Mr Mpofu is a shrewd lawyer and he has earned his stripes. I dont care how he may sound right now, fact of the matter is he is representing someone and it's his duty to put his opponent in a corner till he somehow incriminates himself. So many of our clever black South africans have become so obsessed with wanting to look/sound diplomatic in matters that we all know should be confronted with minimal respect due to the height of crimes committed. This is how many of these wmc stooges constantly dodge a bullet and walk freely, uncharged of the disgusting shenanigans they've committed. Jamnandas isn't answering clearly any of the questions thrown at him while Mr Zondo constantly comes to his defence. JOKE!!
Lolest...
This lawyer is clearly incompetent, why all this embarrassment
"Just Chill"
Shame on Dali to support state capture. Pravin stopped Zumas pillage. Tom Moyane is the thief, cousin of Zuma.
Show us proof and stop calling Black people thief's.
I think all of the anc is corrupt, wether it's cr 17 or ndz same whatsapp group period.
Pravin is a criminal.
Pravin is a thief and a liar
Where is the proof
this mpofu lacks common sense because he addresses disrespectfully giving himself away as uneducated. none of what he says makes sense. he seems empty upstairs
Dali is very emotional and hes abit dom
Very interesting plz plz answer the questions
I like the way the lawyer says he's a different kind of person
I LIKE THE WAY DALI WHOM I GREATLY RESPECT SAYS - - "I AM NOT YOU T'G " THAT IS A LOL 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
No matter who is correct or not, be it Gordhan or Moyane. Surely a lawyer will always take the client's side whether the client is corrupt or not. Looks like a circus there. Just a waste of tax payers hard earned monies.
The local municipal authorities should lead and charge the perpetrators not the national assembly were eff disrupted allegations they accuse each other of money laundering while they dont Want thier personal lawyers to interview and intervene why judge mogoeng resign a people should be matters easier by acting this old perpetrators who actually left the anc to go up against their leaders people Like sir Herman Mashaba and Cope leaders and udm keep quite and ignore public Relations and foreign ministers which is not fair over bearocratic elections but if u do that to them to people like floyd SHIVAMBo and his cabinets ministers they desrepective samwu leaders and Sadtu leaders and blame the presidential minister's to elected to answer irrational leaders psa can be questioned by Dali Mpofu along with zodwa Kodwa and and Tony Yemeni nd Mkhize otherwise trial will be delayed and ignored by other parties in contractions to Category or sector of businesses that can help Honourable Dali Mpofu to win this let him challenge Sanral first then Sir Fikile Mbalula can react I'n parliament first then will see during the week which sector is Abused By the ANC Government is is Agricultural and Forestry or The Mining Sector then the land act along with Education act can be on his side with health and occupational safety act because the lower class are actually former homelands affected by air pollution and water pollutioi mean also even after delivering raw materials the Government's entities are not publicized fairly by sowetan they are interesting but not necessarily out of the agenda to benefit job creation of the nearest society or community
Mpofu i like your style, fantastic, pull them apart😊
Has Pravin Gordon ever lost a case in court ??? Pillay? public protector? sars Unit ? Nuclear deal ? thus far, all wins.. in courts of law.. Now Mpofu trys to bring out old matters which hav been thrown out of courts countrywide lik the rougue unit narative .. the newspaper and judge both appologised for their shady reports..kpmg also appologised and withdrew d report.. Moyane was looking for reports which were not in Gordons favor and pursued those, ignoring others.. why ???
@theonefighter Red Following Malema and floyd are like following wolves in sheep clothing.. they shout and parade on podiums for votes, yet what have they don for the poor? the lifestyles which are in the public domain paint a different picture..malema lives a life of luxury, attends many high society events with whites and indians.. loves money and is a capatalist accumulating wealth.. just in front of u and the cameras he behaves lik he is in politics for u and i.. follow yourself.eff if not goin to bring anything to u brother..
Tea party resolution, "discredit the Commission and its Chairperson to create an escape route for the thieves "
Hands Off Pravin✋✋✋
Wahafa
No wonder Zuma ended up behind bars, this guys a legal delinquent, with a proper defence Zuma might not have been in the situation he’s in.
Also dudu Myeni and Zuma were so arrogant as well.
Mpofu is very personal n unfortunately he met his match
This Zondo guy is a shame to himself because he also interferes with Mr Gordan s answers but he doesn't see it .
EFF's Dali Mpofu clearly also has some skeletons to hide. Bullying and belittling PG seems to petty and certainly has racist overtones. What a poor excuse for a socalled lawyer...
Prveen has got his number and is not falling for his silly one word answer questions that is why he is so frustrated which exposes his true colours
DM's arrogance and disrespect is unbelievable
Exactly.
He is extremely arrogant.
And all people like him. 🙄
So blinded.
Pravin's arrogance is even more nauseating
@@Sir_Lloyds Nah.
Minister Pravin is only like that because he is asked questions like that by a stupid lawyer.
Dali Mpofu is the racist and arrogant one
The Chair 💺 is literally a useless chair
Usile uDali Mpofu finish, udlalela impavi ye TV. He is arrogant himself, not professional at all. You cannot keep on uthuka i witness.
Pravin is so arrogant.and is allowed to get away with it.. What a shame!
We does black people also feel someone else is arrogant? Drop the ego issues both ways plus Gordon must be jailed. He is duck and diving
Mpofu was on song thank u Advocate very proud of u
Advocate of the people Dali Mpofu
Gordhan couldn't answer simple questions. It is obvious that the chep is dishonest in his unnecessary rage and over diffensive mode.
Ziphekiwe !
Viva Mr Dali Mpofu I like the way you are doing things, tell him again not to treat or undermine you as those ANC members, he can't even answer simple question 😜✌️🤫
They all corrupt whole lot
The problem is Gordon studied law too
Can't wait for Tom to take the stand 🤣
Mr Zondo, you must be ashamed of yourself, you make me sick.
OMG this advocate is a comedian.
Why is Pravin so Defensive
Dali has a side comment for every answer and if he does not lik the answer, he gets frustrated and interupts the witness. I mean, does he want a 1 liner like Dudu, aka, i refuse to answer incase incriminate, or proper, taughtful answers? for example, on the question of Zuma, Gordon replies , but Mpofu does not lik the answer, so get frustrated and throws a tantrum. On the question of racism, Gordon says that he is not racist and telling som1 to grow up is not racist, but Dali, boyfriend ga Winnie does not lik the answer, so gets frustrated. On the question of Sars Unit, Gordon answers that the Unit which did not proceed within the Security cluster was canceled and another unit was formed under the sars rule, 2 different units..Dali does not lik the answer so gets frustrated.. while Gordon is answers, we can here noices comin from Dali. The man is getin old and representing crooks is makin him a miserable man. its a shame
@@jabumalinga1943 stop copying and pasting the same comment, doos
@@jabumalinga1943 stop
@@ed7069 Has Pravin Gordon ever lost a case in court ??? Pillay? public protector? sars Unit ? Nuclear deal ? thus far, all wins.. in courts of law.. Now Mpofu trys to bring out old matters which hav been thrown out of courts countrywide lik the rougue unit narative .. the newspaper and judge both appologised for their shady reports..kpmg also appologised and withdrew d report.. Moyane was looking for reports which were not in Gordons favor and pursued those, ignoring others.. why ???
@@ed7069 don't know how many times I've skipped over this comment
Gordon's credibility is seriously in question 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pravin was a minister of Finance with no qualification for such a position , a diploma in pharmacy does not qualify one to be one; only in South Africa .
And yet he did a better job than the qualified idiots...
@@Effy9275 a better job , what better job ??
@@philipbanda6637 look at the financial statistics
Answer the freaken question Mr
Mpofu is the arrogant chief. ... he should go Back to school and study manners
Yes my guy you see what iam looking at
These are the problems of captured Judiciary system
🙄🙄🙄actually DALI is great
I have no faith in this chair
Viva Dali Mpofu!✊🏿
Seriously???
This is what it looks like when SC’s are given the title for politically expedient reasons and not for skill or contribution to the law. Sad.
Anyone can be a politician, if you just believe 😂
@@warewolf4760 anyone can be president if you believe (zuma)
This is all an act, these people are actors hence it is televised. The world is a stage and we are all actors in all of it. The saddest part is that we as lay people don't get to benefit financially like all of these people are once all the production and filming is over...
Yeah but more like chess game and we are the pawns
And everyone still asleep they dont want to wake up
Mpofu's inferiority complex even as an accomplished Advocate is quite interesting.
@theonefighter Red Nothing metal here bud, all flesh and bone.
@theonefighter Red You've been drinking too much RED Kool aid.
Is clear today a mandate of this Commission is for a selected individuals. Why Zondo is not calling Pravin into order. He does what he please. Zondo is very weak
Godan is very stingy with the truth so just leave him Mr Mpofu.
Now it is clear who the president of south Africa
This Gordhan thinks he has the world in his hands. This guy seriously.. He honestly is rude and indeed condescending
Watch the dramatic queen defending the criminal who attempted to capture SARS.
A witness does not have the right to determine relevance...
mzanzi. what is going on here
Lol... I'm mpofu's number 1 fan.. bt this time, he let his emotions take over
Mpofu was very professional and tolerant in this exchange because this witness was arrogant and insulting to the lawyer. The chairperson treated the witness with kid gloves.
The lawyer lost his posture no wonder Julia's malema uses Hodus instead made it far to personal holding way to many grudges now I see what the cic means
no Mr Chair is way to nice..PG is not answering anything wow and he got away😱!!