Hmmm... what a fresh set you got. Something that Debussy or Ravel may have written down, but a unique and wonderful collection in its own right. Thanks for uploading this! ^_^
I've performed The Island Spell and am familiar with Jeux d'Eau. Ireland isn't simply "derivative" of Ravel, at least. While there are superficial resemblances, e.g. the suggestion of water, Ireland's art differs in important ways. - The Island Spell : decorative, song-like, melodic, well-crafted in technique, intimate in character, symbolist in spirit. - Jeux d'Eau: structural, pianistic, harmonic, virtuoso in technique, grand in character, classical in spirit.
Well stated. Some of these people think that if a work isn't at least 90% original, it's not worth listening to. Which of course is utterly ridiculous.
@@erwinschulhoff4464 The list is way too long, but I recommend Ravel's Miroirs and Gaspard de la nuit, Debussy's Images, Estampes, and Préludes, Rachmaninoff's piano concertos and Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini, Études-Tableaux, preludes, and Six moments musicaux, Brahms' piano concertos, rhapsodies, and Intermezzi, most of Chopin's music, and so many others.
So, so beautiful. Very sad that people have to rely on comparisons to describe this music. It exists by itself. All composers are inspired by all composers that came before them, those that are alive with them, and the postulates of the future.
Very sad that you criticise people for no better reason than they made comparisons in their remarks about this piece. That doesn't make their remarks bad.
@@rosiefay7283 no one said that the remarks were bad. @J.E.Hernandez was only saying that it’s better to describe the piece without comparison because it exists by itself. And that’s true! Pieces do exist by themselves. All the composers have different tastes. Music is incomparable by expression. But structure? Well that’s a whole different story
Cynthia McLaglen Yes the impressionists, Ravel and Debussy. This 20th century batch of musicians had to get them out of their system, first before creating their own genre. It is what most musicians do that invent music.
This is great, I am so thankful for John Lenehan, the man has wonderful taste in music and so much skill in seeking out great unique music, thanks for sharing!
Truly beautiful. Heard for the first time with an open mind. The pieces exist in their own space. Yes of course the piano writing recalls Liszt, Debussy. Ravel and Messiaen, among others from 20th c, throughout. What is wrong with that though? These gorgeous chunks of impressionism feel like they have their own identities and themes , and deserve wider hearing and performance alongside the masters. Thanks for posting. Wonderful recording by Lenehan as well!
Debussy and Ravel; were the Impressionists. I link art and music. I'm not trying to be intellectual at all. Some music influences other composers more than others but they stand on their own as well. Cynthia Allen McLaglen
YT surfing and came across this. New for me. Interesting. Thx for loading. Wish I had had YT when I was a kid. They'd have to pry me away from all the great music videos.
I love Ireland and I do think he is original, though after all the comparisons mentioned I have to chip in with Liszt, Un Sospiro! (on a diet...) - I wonder whether Debussy was critiqued much for 'copying' Lizst in times past - after all Lizst did use the whole tone scale quite extensively in 'The Sad Monk' for example - rearrange Sospiro in whole tones and you have a Debussy Prelude!
Very Impressionistic of John Ireland here. Very nice piece, really does remind me of the mentality of Ravel mixed with Debussy's musical palate and Jean Gras's since of wonder.
I love this composer’s piano works. The piano is my favourite instrument, to listen to. As a child, we always had a one in the house, though all I tended to do, was: sit on it, draw it, use it for hide and seek etc. I did occasionally try playing it, but found I couldn’t stand the physical mechanics of depressing the keys. Plus, it was too loud for private practice. I did try taking it up seriously, in my early 20’s, but this attempt was both forced and far too late and I still couldn’t come to terms with the nature of the instrument. My greatest musical wish, would have been to play a halfway convincing version of any of Ireland’s pieces; even his simplest.
Ireland was mostly a composer for the Church of England. Those who of a certain age will remember his much performed "Many Waters" and a couple of communion settings. A composer worth investigating, though some of his works, like the anthem Many Water are a bit saccharine.
Listen to John Ireland is to abolish the overabundance of noises and images of everyday life to open the space of a place where contingency and representation give way to the immateriality of the sensible. Once the door is closed on the agitation of the world, an underlying silence sets in, a slowness seizes the preludes of a dilation of perception and consciousness.
@@erwinschulhoff4464 All I said was that the John Ireland piece was like a Debussy piano playing which sounds like ripples. I know the John Ireland concerto from long ago and his work usually does not sound like the musical impressionists. I have been addicted recently to something quite different. The American and Japanese playing that Jeff Beck made in those countries but not in the UK .I have been catching up, and it is fantastic. Cynthia Allen McLaglen
@@erwinschulhoff4464 I meant that that particular piece by John Ireland, was impressionistic like Debussy. I have not been listening to it over and over. I have been listening to Jeff Beck's guitar music which is unlike anyone elses playing when at it's best. I had been looking and searching for it for years but foundit at last on TH-cam! yOUTUBE. Cynthia Allen McLaglen
It's an Impressionist piano technique in which you let a note ring using the sustaining pedal. It's called 'laissez vibrer' and is notated by a tie leading into nothing.
Indeed, derivative music. I derived a lot of enjoyment out of this music. That may be due to the fact that I am not a music critic. ("Not that there is anything wrong with that.")
So what? Some of Schubert's music is derivative of Mozart, but that does not make it any less pleasing. If you dismiss the beauty of this solely because it is "derivative" then your ability to appreciate this music is clearly lacking. Quit obsessing over originality.
@@user-np3mj3bf6f Although I agree, you can’t deny that that this piece cannot be compared to Debussy, Ravel, etc., in terms of originality. Sure, they were derivative, but not _as_ derivative if that makes sense. They’re the first impressionists after all
When TH-cam recommended section doesn’t disappoint and finds you an absolute gem
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The first one sounds like a ringtone
People are decorating their trees, their room or even their nails, but the only decoration I need is this.
Leiki Ueda I totally agree with you my man. The first one is my next piece to learn
Stop commenting evey musical video I click on 😂
You can decorate your time with this; adorn your conscience.
I guess Im kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good site to watch newly released movies online?
@Zain Ayaan Try FlixZone. Just google for it =)
Hmmm... what a fresh set you got. Something that Debussy or Ravel may have written down, but a unique and wonderful collection in its own right. Thanks for uploading this! ^_^
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Nah this is a weak imitation
@@solidsnake9332 rubbish, these are magical pieces.
I've performed The Island Spell and am familiar with Jeux d'Eau. Ireland isn't simply "derivative" of Ravel, at least. While there are superficial resemblances, e.g. the suggestion of water, Ireland's art differs in important ways. - The Island Spell : decorative, song-like, melodic, well-crafted in technique, intimate in character, symbolist in spirit. - Jeux d'Eau: structural, pianistic, harmonic, virtuoso in technique, grand in character, classical in spirit.
Well stated. Some of these people think that if a work isn't at least 90% original, it's not worth listening to. Which of course is utterly ridiculous.
Okay but there is a strong influence of Ravel but also Debussy that he must greatly appreciated!
Some of your adjectives could apply to both pieces.
Aaah, John Ireland. TH-cam throws up another wonderful voice from my past.....
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
Thank John Ireland and John Lenehan- pure calm and joy.🪅
john ireland wrote many beautiful, exciting piano works. this is definitely one of them!
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
Aww I'm in love with these tunes. So soothing
I had never heard of John Ireland until seeing this video in my recommended today. This is amazing. Thank you for introducing me to him!
Do you know any other beautiful pieces?
@@erwinschulhoff4464 By Ireland? If that's the question, not really. If you mean, by other composers, a lot.
@@christianvennemann9008 yeahh by other composers
@@erwinschulhoff4464 The list is way too long, but I recommend Ravel's Miroirs and Gaspard de la nuit, Debussy's Images, Estampes, and Préludes, Rachmaninoff's piano concertos and Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini, Études-Tableaux, preludes, and Six moments musicaux, Brahms' piano concertos, rhapsodies, and Intermezzi, most of Chopin's music, and so many others.
So, so beautiful. Very sad that people have to rely on comparisons to describe this music. It exists by itself. All composers are inspired by all composers that came before them, those that are alive with them, and the postulates of the future.
Well said.
It's 'light' music as far as I'm concerned.
Why do you find it sad?
Very sad that you criticise people for no better reason than they made comparisons in their remarks about this piece. That doesn't make their remarks bad.
@@rosiefay7283 no one said that the remarks were bad. @J.E.Hernandez was only saying that it’s better to describe the piece without comparison because it exists by itself. And that’s true! Pieces do exist by themselves. All the composers have different tastes. Music is incomparable by expression. But structure? Well that’s a whole different story
2:48 that chord is so Ravel - still a very nice piece! I find myself listening to this once in a while. Thanks for the upload.
Cynthia McLaglen Yes the impressionists, Ravel and Debussy. This 20th century batch of musicians had to get them out of their system, first before creating their own genre. It is what most musicians do that invent music.
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
What a wonderful collection of pieces. Feels as if I'm there on the Channel Islands!
Ireland is really wonderful ! I love these ! Ive heard his piano concerto there are many fine moments !
This is great, I am so thankful for John Lenehan, the man has wonderful taste in music and so much skill in seeking out great unique music, thanks for sharing!
Truly beautiful. Heard for the first time with an open mind. The pieces exist in their own space.
Yes of course the piano writing recalls Liszt, Debussy. Ravel and Messiaen, among others from 20th c, throughout. What is wrong with that though?
These gorgeous chunks of impressionism feel like they have their own identities and themes , and deserve wider hearing and performance alongside the masters.
Thanks for posting. Wonderful recording by Lenehan as well!
Debussy and Ravel; were the Impressionists. I link art and music. I'm not trying to be intellectual at all. Some music influences other composers more than others but they stand on their own as well. Cynthia Allen McLaglen
This is beautiful.
YT surfing and came across this. New for me. Interesting. Thx for loading. Wish I had had YT when I was a kid. They'd have to pry me away from all the great music videos.
I enjoy this very much, there's a bold delicate vicerality but ya know it's still a beautiful skeleton under it's monumental skin
Preciosa obra. Saludos desde la CDMX.
Thanks- I have sung many Anglican choral works by Ireland, never knew he wrote secular music.
I love Ireland and I do think he is original, though after all the comparisons mentioned I have to chip in with Liszt, Un Sospiro! (on a diet...) - I wonder whether Debussy was critiqued much for 'copying' Lizst in times past - after all Lizst did use the whole tone scale quite extensively in 'The Sad Monk' for example - rearrange Sospiro in whole tones and you have a Debussy Prelude!
How could I have missed this one!
Very Impressionistic of John Ireland here. Very nice piece, really does remind me of the mentality of Ravel mixed with Debussy's musical palate and Jean Gras's since of wonder.
Jean Cras?
@@rogerknox9147 A pretty obscure composer who did some great stuff. Not a lot through.
@@ARTalive01 He was also a naval soldier iirc. Quite an interesting figure.
This is wonderful!
Wow. I do love your channel. I discover something new every time!
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
I love this composer’s piano works.
The piano is my favourite instrument, to listen to.
As a child, we always had a one in the house, though all I tended to do, was: sit on it, draw it, use it for hide and seek etc. I did occasionally try playing it, but found I couldn’t stand the physical mechanics of depressing the keys. Plus, it was too loud for private practice.
I did try taking it up seriously, in my early 20’s, but this attempt was both forced and far too late and I still couldn’t come to terms with the nature of the instrument.
My greatest musical wish, would have been to play a halfway convincing version of any of Ireland’s pieces; even his simplest.
This is awesome!
This is wonderful stuff.
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
Great music! Very Ravelian
great shoothing composition
Perfect!!!!!
2:18 Feux D'artifice and Reflets Dans Leau
Ouvi essa música normalmente, até que do nada começou a chover. Certamente criou um ambiente bem mais diferente e exclusivo.
my dad is named john and is from ireland.... crazy how he made this
8:50 I love this chord
The second one reminds me of Ligeti's etude Cordes à Vite.
Cool
Best ring phone ever
私はキツ山次郎と言われれば、本当に嬉しいです。今日そう言われた時は本当に堅い守りが出来ていました。私のマグレでしたが、実力でそう将棋が指せるようになります。
Благодарствую, спирачилЬ!
Ireland was mostly a composer for the Church of England. Those who of a certain age will remember his much performed "Many Waters" and a couple of communion settings. A composer worth investigating, though some of his works, like the anthem Many Water are a bit saccharine.
9:19 is a definite nod to PETRUSHKA!
Listen to John Ireland is to abolish the overabundance of noises and images of everyday life to open the space of a place where contingency and representation give way to the immateriality of the sensible. Once the door is closed on the agitation of the world, an underlying silence sets in, a slowness seizes the preludes of a dilation of perception and consciousness.
... and this is good.
Not to be confused with the actor of the same name.
3:11 Shades of Debussy's La cathédrale engloutie.
Very like Debussy! Cynthia Allen McLaglen
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
@@erwinschulhoff4464 All I said was that the John Ireland piece was like a Debussy piano playing which sounds like ripples. I know the John Ireland concerto from long ago and his work usually does not sound like the musical impressionists. I have been addicted recently to something quite different. The American and Japanese playing that Jeff Beck made in those countries but not in the UK .I have been catching up, and it is fantastic. Cynthia Allen McLaglen
@@erwinschulhoff4464 I meant that that particular piece by John Ireland, was impressionistic like Debussy. I have not been listening to it over and over. I have been listening to Jeff Beck's guitar music which is unlike anyone elses playing when at it's best. I had been looking and searching for it for years but foundit at last on TH-cam! yOUTUBE. Cynthia Allen McLaglen
@@erwinschulhoff4464 NOT RANDOM BUT JEFF BECK WHO ALWAYS PLAYED HIS OWN MUSIC IN AMERICA AND JAPAN. but not so much in England. Cynthia Allen-McLaglen
What do the ties leading to nothing mean?
Théo de Pinho the note is supposed to ring. You play it as if you were to play another note after, but instead you let the note ring.
Thank you for the explanation.
Usually indicated with the "tie" plus the abbreviation "l.v." for "laissez vibrer".
It's an Impressionist piano technique in which you let a note ring using the sustaining pedal. It's called 'laissez vibrer' and is notated by a tie leading into nothing.
@@MooPotPie In Italian, it's "lasciar vibrare" for anyone interested.
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Okay... what dumbass at TH-cam put an advert right before the final cadence. PRAT! Otherwise these are fantastic pieces played ebulliently well
The end of the first movement is quite evidently a citation to debussy's cathedral englotue
miki890098 * engloutie 😉
lol definintly some jeux deau in the first one
2:00 8:26
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What a peaceful piece of music.. I imagine he was inspired by Ravel's own two works similar in nature - Miroirs and Gaspard de la Nuit
He wasn't called the English Impressionist for no reason.
jongen...
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
My opinion is: very influenced by Maurice Ravel (1875 - 1937)
third movement petrouchka ...... for gods sakes
Hä? Der reinste Debussy.
derivative music...think Ravel Jeux d'eau or Debussy's Petite suite
Indeed, derivative music. I derived a lot of enjoyment out of this music. That may be due to the fact that I am not a music critic. ("Not that there is anything wrong with that.")
So what? Some of Schubert's music is derivative of Mozart, but that does not make it any less pleasing. If you dismiss the beauty of this solely because it is "derivative" then your ability to appreciate this music is clearly lacking. Quit obsessing over originality.
@@user-np3mj3bf6f Although I agree, you can’t deny that that this piece cannot be compared to Debussy, Ravel, etc., in terms of originality. Sure, they were derivative, but not _as_ derivative if that makes sense. They’re the first impressionists after all