B-Pump Ogikubo🇯🇵 HARDEST Climbing Gym EVER

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  • @dakiblabla
    @dakiblabla ปีที่แล้ว +300

    Akiyo once said that a "perfect V4 climber" (in terms of technique) is all you need, and higher grades are just strength. Now this makes sense - she meant V4 in BO.

  • @hardboiledaleks9012
    @hardboiledaleks9012 ปีที่แล้ว +614

    when they say "this is a v3 in my gym" THIS IS THE GYM.

    • @RekySai
      @RekySai 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It gets old hearing that. When you hear people saying over and over again that they are v4 climbers and then they are struggling with the v1s and twos at your gym. Then there is this one dude who's complaining about the v10 being a v12 because it's too hard. I just find it hard to believe that someone is a v4 climber if they can't climb any of the v4s in front of them. I've only been climbing 5 months though and only seen one gym. Shouldn't you be getting stronger instead of mad that you can't climb the grade you thought you could

    • @utribal5258
      @utribal5258 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no clear definition on climbing level. Something very common is mentioning the grade you project as your climbing level. Which usually means that you won't just send it in 1 go
      Personally I use the grade my climbing app gives me, which is the average of top 10 climbs in 2 months

  • @bluejay2965
    @bluejay2965 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    That v0+/v1 is definitely at least like a v4 in my gym

    • @flakitodiego8728
      @flakitodiego8728 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      V7 in my gym 💀

    • @Oachlkaas
      @Oachlkaas ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Really crazy how different the standards seem to be. Usually it's the other way around where you find yourself thinking that the climbs are way too easy for the grade. Like in Magnus' newest video where Zach King flashes a 6b. Like, it looks too easy for a 6b... I'm sure in reality it is actually a 6b, because for some reason on camera everything seems to look easier. But here, complete opposite. v2s look incredibly hard for their grade.

    • @jjizzler9592
      @jjizzler9592 ปีที่แล้ว

      V3 at my gym

    • @JimNasiumOG
      @JimNasiumOG ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@Oachlkaasyea that's what baffles me so much is these climbs look noticably hard on video even when they are graded as "easy"

    • @Vincentalbot
      @Vincentalbot ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, V3-V4 in my gym

  • @matej1967
    @matej1967 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    This is the gym of everyone who comments V0 in my gym !

  • @snarkk5410
    @snarkk5410 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    if a v3 looks as difficult as a v6 in my gym i cant imagine what a v10 looks like there

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      It actually looks ok, until you pull onto the first hold 🤣

    • @babsds0
      @babsds0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I remember a Japanese route setter friend told said that they don't grade higher than v10 for the hardest problems (which are v13- v15 in reality).

  • @ascotter
    @ascotter ปีที่แล้ว +57

    That first V3-4 looks like it would be V7 in my gym lol. You’re a crusher dude and your content is very motivating! I always watch it on my rest days

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I find watching climbing videos on rests days to be a dangerous practice, I always end up getting too psyched and start fnigerboarding or doing pull ups

  • @紫黑酱酱酱
    @紫黑酱酱酱 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    There're several "rewards" by the route itself in the climbing world. In average gym, they are finger strength, upper body power, mobility, flexibility and so on. And as you can tell, precision is one of the most weighted "reward" in some Japanese climbing gym like B-pump. It literary take the game to another level.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it's mind blowing, honestly a great experience to understand that there's always tons fo room for improvement!

  • @yulewang5442
    @yulewang5442 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Your video is very comprehensive and you climb super strong! The part where you compared the grades you could reach at different gyms in different countries was also helpful!
    To give some context of Ogikubo's grading:
    - earlier this year, Ogikubo set a 100 routes with ascending difficulty while keeping the tapes. The red tapes (5Q = V0+ on the conversion chart) went up to 40, and white tape (3Q = V3~V4) went up to 60s. This also gave a perspective of where you are at the a 1-100 scale comparing to the frequenters at the gym (basically most people there are very strong). The world cup pro-atheletes were in the 90s range for green and black tapes, and they also need to work hard to send them.
    - from my personal experience, it is consistently 2~3Q ("kyu") harder than most other non-B-pump gyms in Tokyo (e.g. a B-pump 5Q could be a 2/3Q at other gyms). Most other gyms also start at lower grades (i.e. 9~10Q) so it'd give beginner climbers more routes to climb.
    A few other things that make Ogikubo hard:
    - due to limited space in Tokyo, you can find gym walls here are very packed with holds, and it requires much more precise movement. For instance, the two big black holds were definitely in your way to get your right foot onto the jib for the blue-hold-3Q route you were working on. And it's much harder to send a dyno on non-comp walls than comp walls (many more holds in your way).
    - Ogikubo is pretty good with getting and setting with new type of holds that you just might've just seen in a world cup. It also often sets with much more new-school style.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for summarisingggg

    • @JohnBurke-m1h
      @JohnBurke-m1h ปีที่แล้ว

      Other than Noborock and Rocky (which I would say have an even larger gap than that), Tokyo gyms do not have a 2~3Q grade difference from Ogikubo. Its much closer to 1Q difference on average. Underground is actually about 1Q harder than Ogikubo.

  • @itsfinn2183
    @itsfinn2183 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I really want to visit the Japanese climbing gyms

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s an invaluable experience for sureee

  • @moneyhoejoefeller
    @moneyhoejoefeller ปีที่แล้ว +206

    those lower v grades are insane for what the routesetters have given them ahaha

    • @dylansmith3452
      @dylansmith3452 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      One of the routsetters in my gym grade things just like this and its great for when you want to destroy your confidence

    • @moneyhoejoefeller
      @moneyhoejoefeller ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@dylansmith3452i prefer this way of grading really, as he said getting that grade is much more rewarding and keeps you humble.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s just a different standard haha

  • @babsds0
    @babsds0 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those are some of the hardest looking indoor v0-v1's I've ever seen. No wonder Japan has so many good climbers when all their setting is crazy hard/technical.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      next video goes even deeper into the way Japanese setting workssss

  • @ryanp8310
    @ryanp8310 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love your videos more than any other climbing creator. Thanks

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      O my what a compliment 🥹but I have got a lot to learn and improve on for sure, other TH-camrs are my INSPIRATION 😎😎thank you for the kind words tho

  • @FliegenderKeks
    @FliegenderKeks ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Such a good video. I think you've showed me another piece of motivation to train even harder and improve way beyond what I'm capable of right now.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s always something to improve on for sureee

  • @japanbouldering4582
    @japanbouldering4582 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've climbed extensively at Japanese gyms including B-Pump and I'm a routesetter in the US. One thing to note is that the scale at the beginning is the "official" Japanese-to-V-grade conversion chart, which applies best to outdoor bouldering. There are stiff and soft gyms in the country, with B-Pump being one of the hardest. Here's a rough chart just based on my own opinion if you want to know what grade you might climb at B-Pump:
    8-kyu - VB
    7-kyu - V0
    6-kyu - V1
    5-kyu - V2-V3+
    4-kyu - V4+
    3-kyu - V5-V6
    2-kyu - V6+
    1-kyu - V7+
    1-dan - V8-9
    2-dan - V10+
    3-dan - V11 and up

    • @Noviro
      @Noviro ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never climbed in a Japanese gym, but I thought a similar thing about the grade conversion. VB/V0 is supposed to be the easiest grade, but this gym (supposedly) has climbs below that level which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. So your conversion looks much more logical

  • @CrispyCrimpsClimbing
    @CrispyCrimpsClimbing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you said it perfectly, I found that the hardest thing about ogikubo is that everything feels insecure. Usually at other gyms its a bad hand or foot in ogikubo the position itself is always bad

  • @jodestolo
    @jodestolo ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love your energy and positivity 😊 (and your climbing haha)

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awww I appreciate the kind wordsss

  • @danchen6783
    @danchen6783 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We just went in June 2023. Random weekday evening. To my left Fujii Kokoro is working a problem. Down at the comp wall Ogata Yushiyuki hanging with a buddy, who could have been a national champ for all I know - there are so many world class Japanese climbers and I only know of a handful. Their conversion chart is like he says, about 4 grades harder. And everyone in the gym was at least decent. Everyone was able to climb a US v6 or better. It was like the field of dreams. Awesome and super challenging.

  • @FloTheUIM
    @FloTheUIM ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice to see a video where the lower grades are challenging! Definitely checking out the rest of the vids! Japanese gyms look amazing!(ly hard haha)

  • @deendistel853
    @deendistel853 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! Love your energy

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank youu, hope you enjoyed ittt

  • @lofizp1062
    @lofizp1062 ปีที่แล้ว

    LLOOKING ABSOLUTELY HUMONGOUS ALSO PRETTY VIRAL VIDS LETS GOO RAAHHHH💪💪💪💪💪

  • @Carlosallouchimontero
    @Carlosallouchimontero ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I guess the difference between b-pump and depot is that depot caters to more punters and newer climbers, b-pump always felt like it was a place where the elite train tbf. Its like going to the school room where everything on the board and spray wall is sandbagged haha

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think the main difference is the expectation of the climber is just much higher. It’s not that there aren’t easy climbs, like physically the lower grades are very doable more most people but then they take time to figure out, which is sorta the best no? Like although it’s harder than normal grading, all the moves are within the capabilities of an amateur climber, it’s just much more complex which I think makes the climbing more rewarding and funnnn

  • @Sploige
    @Sploige ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excited for the part 2. Also, you should the "Thank$" button!

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahah there are more than two parts😏

  • @FlowCylo
    @FlowCylo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm relatively new to climbing but I had the chance to climb in another gym in Tokyo. It was so much harder than what I was used to. I'm currently at a V3/V4 level but I only managed to climb some V0+/V1 routes in Japan. I've learned a lot though.

  • @MeatSauceLova
    @MeatSauceLova ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That W4 comp problem looks brutal on the lower back
    I was there the week of the Hachioji finals and could only average V3's. The post-McDonalds hits different there too

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was the teriyaki squid balls for me🤪

  • @sean6387
    @sean6387 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I have been living in Japan for twenty years, and Ogikubo B-Pump was a walk away from my house for many years (old gym and new gym.) Route-setting through all grades, including beginner grades, is fantastic, so it's a great place for beginners too. The easiest (pink tape) problems are not just ladders, but introduce necessary techniques. Moving up the grades, In my opinion, going from sending red tape to blue tape is a big jump, and then white tapes start to become seriously testing. I've seen Janja fall off a tricky blue V2/V3, so virtually no boulder is a give send if you are complacent. It's a wonderful gym, but leave your ego at the door, or it could be crushed.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I hope that's a point I managed to get across, the climbs aren't just hard in terms of the physical sense, they are hard because there are so many different moves, so many holds use in creative ways and more. The grades int eh gym are actually in a very wide spectrum so there's something for everyone for sure, you mention climbs for beginners, there are definitely some and the quality is just as high as the harder ones!

  • @Dstryrrr
    @Dstryrrr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A comment for the algorithm, my friend

  • @moderndaymath
    @moderndaymath ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was thinking of checking this out when I was in Tokyo, but never got around to it. This looks awesome! If you get the chance, you may be interested in Edge & Sofa in Matsumuto. Def a hike from Tokyo and nowhere near as big as B-Pump, but really tough and creative problems there + alps!

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Too many good gyms, too little tome

  • @rjmbowie
    @rjmbowie ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Can't wait to visit this gym

  • @Paradyme88
    @Paradyme88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video for one of the best gyms I have visited. So happy to see your take on the grades there. I didn't know about Shodan being the gate to mastery. New lifetime goal set!

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      ahha I thought it was an interesting nugget as well

  • @eduardonegrao8364
    @eduardonegrao8364 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude I relate so much with this video
    I live in the countryside of Brazil, and the gyms here are disconnected from the rest of the world. Besides that we still use the international V system for boulders, and its completely broken. The V3 here are way harder than the ones I usually see online. I think that happens because climbing its not a popular sport here, so must of us also climb in the rock. Anyway, I am so happy to know there are other places where the "system" doesnt apply very well too

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the main point is that as long as you can document your progress in a consistent and reliable way, then it's all ok, grades for me is a way to document my progress in one place, but there's no need to feel bad or anything if your rate of progression in terms of grade is different to the crazy stuff people do online, its just so different everywhere.

    • @eduardonegrao8364
      @eduardonegrao8364 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jonathan_sin88 thanks man, that makes a lot of sense, that's the best way to look at it
      I remember one time when I was talking to a friend from Greece, and we mention climbing. He asked me the highest grade I climbed in boulder and I was like "maybe v3/v4" and I have been climbing for 1 year. He looked at me in disbelieve and told me he climbed that in his first day 😂

  • @VernalClimbing
    @VernalClimbing 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When the gym is 2-3 grades harder than outdoors that is wild. My gym is very hard on grading and turns V4 climbers at the other gyms in the city into V1 climbers, but it's still nowhere near the level of B-Pump. I hope to one day visit here as my hardest grade as of right now is V7 and I want to test myself more.

  • @Captain-Jack-Climbing
    @Captain-Jack-Climbing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After you climbed in B-pump, you immediately evolved

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it changed my mindset a bit for sure

  • @raysblack2485
    @raysblack2485 ปีที่แล้ว

    I come from Nepal . My gym has very few space and grade are too soft then I see video like this ! My heart aches for these types of gym

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean as long as there are holds you can set hard stuff for yourself!! Goodluckkk

  • @Keioke1
    @Keioke1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your Videos so much! Your style of climbing is so beatyfull to watch! Please make more 🙏

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's in the making!! thanks for the kind words!!

  • @lorenzteichmann8720
    @lorenzteichmann8720 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it dude, keep it up💪🏻

  • @diogosoares1309
    @diogosoares1309 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro you've motivated me so much in my resting day that I can't wait for tomorrow to come to send some routes!!

  • @Zacyfarms22
    @Zacyfarms22 ปีที่แล้ว

    great videos. Going to Japan in April next year. Hoping to visit all these gyms and do some outdoor climbing

  • @imyabota5785
    @imyabota5785 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this is the gym people talk about when they say "V0/1 in my gym" . I'm flashing 6c consistently, but can't see myself flashing most 5's there. Holy that gym is insane. Will definitly remember it if I go to Japan next time.

  • @user-ch6xl1zc6k
    @user-ch6xl1zc6k ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Going there one day is definitely a big goal of mine

  • @maxlau8259
    @maxlau8259 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let's gooooo

  • @kronosis2767
    @kronosis2767 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your knowledge of the rocks you come across baffles me. What I wouldn’t give to go on a single expedition with you. Teaching myself with books and videos has only gotten me so far. Being with someone with field experience who can point out the rocks in real time would suit my learning style so much better.
    How did you learn so much?
    I would love to make a trip out to that area in the future but I wouldn’t have much success with my lack of actual agate hunting experience.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I definitely spend more time thinking about climbing than actually climbing

  • @heraclitus4884
    @heraclitus4884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sick video

  • @Edmaste
    @Edmaste ปีที่แล้ว

    I think i briefly saw you at Night's game competition at Rocky akebonobashi. Looking forward for the video hopefully 😉
    Ogipump still beating my ass on some 3Q, with completely impossible 2Q for me, glad you have sent some!

  • @kim98677
    @kim98677 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So much potential for learning when they aren't afraid to put advanced moves that are strength appropriate for a lower grade. Lile that blue v3 with the toehook.
    However the rest of that one was sandbagged to hell and back 😂

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      Just forces us all to be better😎😎

  • @jmb9701
    @jmb9701 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God i hope climbing continues growing in the west like it has over the last 5 years. The Japanese do everything so well

  • @alanc3886
    @alanc3886 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video! For me the boulders looked really difficult. I subscribed, thanks for the awesome content!

  • @ScratchRick
    @ScratchRick ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I went to B Pump when I was in Japan!!! The other kids there are incredible!! I'll be posting the video to TH-cam also 😀

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Always good to see more Japan climbing stuffff

    • @ScratchRick
      @ScratchRick ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jonathan_sin88 Thanks! I did indoor and outdoor climbing while there!

  • @intrifix4536
    @intrifix4536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't wait to go there and not being able to climb anything!

  • @watchout12342
    @watchout12342 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the video! ♥

  • @rudolphmouton8283
    @rudolphmouton8283 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heading there in 3 weeks!

    • @Nameless_TF
      @Nameless_TF 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      damn have a good time man

  • @TerryMasquerade
    @TerryMasquerade ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love it❤

  • @paulreinert
    @paulreinert 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an awesome Video! I love your positivity :D Also, the choice of music was excellent! Sadly, there ist no list of the used songs, or is there? I would love to check out some of them ✌️

  • @macwenbbq
    @macwenbbq ปีที่แล้ว

    The boulder you did at 16:05 in Arkose, Bordeaux (im climbing there and did this one) is more 6a+/6b than 7a+

  • @SirCharcoal
    @SirCharcoal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They set climbs 2 grades below what they consider V0, so the grade conversion isn't simply a case of Japanese climbers being stronger (though I have no doubt that's true especially in this gym), but more-so the Japanese culture of humility. Or in general climbing culture... sandbagging :)

  • @diegogonzalezvizoso4195
    @diegogonzalezvizoso4195 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Japanese gyms are super sandbagged. Japanese grades are always 2 grades below overseas grades, this gym just takes it to another level.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a special one for sure, most other gyms I visit are quite normal

  • @Xavier-xb7is
    @Xavier-xb7is ปีที่แล้ว

    another banger

  • @Firetoicee
    @Firetoicee ปีที่แล้ว

    WTF hahaha waow the boulders look insanely hard for the grade, a dynamic toe hook catch on a v2-v3 I would never see that in any gyms in my city up until V4-V5

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      it's a bit nuts ahha but sososo fun

  • @ForeverAbroad
    @ForeverAbroad ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WTF THOSE V0-V2 CLIMBS ARE INSANE. those are like v3-v6 in my gym

  • @Lumi_nance
    @Lumi_nance 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I climb up to 7A/7B at the moonboard as well as in my home gym. In fontainebleau although, I didn't manage to do sth harder than 6A the one time I was there. So maybe I suck at outdoors or all the gyms/ moonboard is graded to low, except this gym

  • @yukiokurozawa1615
    @yukiokurozawa1615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's fun how American gyms put the grades on the boulders so high, there a v7 it's like a v3 in other countries.

  • @Ekid33
    @Ekid33 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Dan-kyu system is awesome, but I think the V-grades they're claiming are equivalent to their dan-kyu grades aren't very accurate. The V0+/V1s which are clearly causing a V10+ climber to pull hard are hilarious.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s brilliant, when it’s set in this way, I feel like there are just way more climbs that are worth climbing

  • @ムチムチサンド
    @ムチムチサンド ปีที่แล้ว

    Everything sandbag in Japan. I used to climb v10 when I was in the US. I moved to Japan and I only climb v3/4 now

  • @ThatsNotRealClimbingPodcast
    @ThatsNotRealClimbingPodcast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:09 makes me wonder how often you work on your stretches looool, or is it just awkward positioning?

  • @Gigant.sokolov
    @Gigant.sokolov ปีที่แล้ว

    very good 🙂

  • @this_too_shaII_pass
    @this_too_shaII_pass 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! I am curious how the white holds on the wall at 20:27 work. Are those for when you want to use that wall as a spray wall or do they also make up problems somehow?

  • @az3ssin263
    @az3ssin263 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes me wann climb..

  • @alantheusthompson5594
    @alantheusthompson5594 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks accurate to outdoor bouldering.

  • @Angus_fO
    @Angus_fO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing that strikes me as a european climber, is the lack of crimps. Compare these boulders to the moonboard or famous outdoors areas around europe it seems like a completely separate style

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh there were crimps🤣 i was too afraid to pull on them that’s all

  • @agario5161
    @agario5161 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    some omega sandbaging going on in this gym

  • @kartashuvit4971
    @kartashuvit4971 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoever came up with the "this v0 is a v5 in my gym" meme wasn't actually joking they just came back from this gym

  • @TheJeffDing
    @TheJeffDing 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Shodan" is like how sushi restaurant apprentices have to wash rice for 5 years before being able to do anything else lol

  • @tobelikechrist100
    @tobelikechrist100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro I’m going here in a month - scared LOL

  • @JimNasiumOG
    @JimNasiumOG ปีที่แล้ว

    Im trying to get my second ever v5 on a paddle move and you're "v3" wall looked harder than the v5 I've been trying

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ahha I think this was part of the point of the video, but then as long as you are progressing within your own gym , its good enough I thinkkk

  • @MikePlus
    @MikePlus ปีที่แล้ว

    Super fun video. Did you try any individual moves on any black tape climbs?

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      I pulled on to the first move, fell, moved on. But there’s a video coming up soon where I try a much harder problem than any of the ones in the video😏

  • @shinraninja
    @shinraninja ปีที่แล้ว +2

    no wonder japanese climbers are so good, they mark grades like 2-3 grades lower so when they get a v5 they really a v8

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They just work climbs a lot more and are more comfortable with falling without giving uppp

  • @Prodeproteccion
    @Prodeproteccion ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool vid!. One question, why are ther holds inside tapped triangles?. First slab problem it look like they belong to the problem

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      those are jugs for climbers to work individual moves, not part of the climb as far as I am aware!!

    • @Prodeproteccion
      @Prodeproteccion ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jonathan_sin88 , thanks, great idea. First time i see it.

  • @DeePunter
    @DeePunter ปีที่แล้ว

    That yellow v2-3 in the beginning is a v6 in my gym

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      more hard climbs=more fun

    • @DeePunter
      @DeePunter ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jonathan_sin88 yea i hope i get a chance to go there one day.

  • @fabiopalma4429
    @fabiopalma4429 ปีที่แล้ว

    The grading looks like identical to bouldering in rock

  • @davidyon3197
    @davidyon3197 ปีที่แล้ว

    This Video is the embodiment of "V0 in my gym"

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣funny enough people who climb in this gym would probs never say anything like that, they strong af but also humble af

  • @kanga7880
    @kanga7880 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you wrap your wrists with tape or something else which is reusable?

  • @flintw.5185
    @flintw.5185 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the routsetters have to be joking, right? The first yellow V1 you did would be at least a V4 at my gym, or maybe even a V5

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha it’s off the charts, literally

  • @DimensionPicturesAOT
    @DimensionPicturesAOT ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the song roughly @ 7:00-8:00?

  • @-masteryoda
    @-masteryoda ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do they start with 8Q = -V2 when they convert the grades? I feel like the difficulty would feel way more accurate if they just started with 8Q = V0

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cause it normally is, this gym is just off the cabrts

    • @-masteryoda
      @-masteryoda ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jonathan_sin88 ohh gotcha

  • @FocusClimbing
    @FocusClimbing ปีที่แล้ว

    Your grade conversions are a little off my friend. Shodan (初段)=V7/8 Nidan (二段) =V8/9 and Sandan (三段)= V10/11. The gyms are hard all over Japan.

  • @2Stalky
    @2Stalky ปีที่แล้ว +4

    V0-1 basically as hard as V3-4 anywhere else In the world, lol

    • @dylansmith3452
      @dylansmith3452 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One of the routsetters at my gym grades just like this and it's great for killing an ego

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s amazing, just think of it as getting a lot more things to fall off on, more climbs to learn from, THE BEST

    • @dylansmith3452
      @dylansmith3452 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jonathan_sin88 thanks for the advice

  • @hkbenman
    @hkbenman ปีที่แล้ว

    sooo good

  • @ChrysusTV
    @ChrysusTV ปีที่แล้ว

    Japan just has stricter grading, and 段級位制 doesn't have any standardized conversion to V grading (especially as there's no reliable standard within V grading itself). The actual routes aren't inherently more difficult as Japan doesn't have exclusive holds or climbing techniques that the rest of the world doesn't have; you're just on the wrong grade if something is substantially more difficult than expected. Though, of course, if you normally climb at, say, a gym geared for 180 cm climbers, Japan's routes will not be as suitable to your body shape or what you are used to. That's nothing specific to 荻パン though. If anything, it's just a lesson in how inconsistent grading is across all of climbing especially when going international; nothing about the gym itself is more difficult than any other gym in the world.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for the taking the time to comment!! Japan definitely has striating grading but I think what makes it hard is how consistent the climb is, how if you picked a climb at your level, every move is droppable, there wouldn't be a single flashy move and the rest of the climb is easy. I think it's the way they set here which separates them!

  • @danielderesciuc7941
    @danielderesciuc7941 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro idk what v grades they’re using but it’s definitely not what the gyms I’ve been to are😭😭😭. My v4 is their v1/v2😭😭😭

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      ahha just different standards, nothing wrong with other gyms

  • @jianlian100
    @jianlian100 ปีที่แล้ว

    So hard 😅

  • @MaxOwen-m6v
    @MaxOwen-m6v ปีที่แล้ว

    whats the point in sandbagging grades like this... just keep them consistent and start higher if you want a hard gym. grades exist to provide universal bench mark

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is consistent within the gym!! They only convert the grades fro foreigners but I don't think they think and set in terms of them too much!

  • @tyronelaces8690
    @tyronelaces8690 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kaizen

  • @someasiankid6323
    @someasiankid6323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im not even gay but this guy is so good looking, im falling in love

    • @Official-OpenAI
      @Official-OpenAI หลายเดือนก่อน

      uh, you might actually be gay

  • @matthewcallaghan319
    @matthewcallaghan319 ปีที่แล้ว

    Australia has the worst grading gyms..most just grade from 1 to 10, so if the 10 is v14 what is the 3...(could be anything), always horribly annoying as you can never have a progression, as one week you can do 8....then the 9 at the gym is a project v15 for the route setters, so all the 8 become 6 and you feel like you have dropped 2 grades( good thing i have a moon board) can go home flash a few v5 and relize im still about the same strength as i was ftom 20 years ago last lol

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      ahaha its just different across the world that's all

  • @captain-levi139
    @captain-levi139 ปีที่แล้ว

    me a v7 climber thinking that the v3 look hard

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      The v1/2 was getting a bit tough for me already🤣

  • @alvin001122
    @alvin001122 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a better rest day video than this ?🧐

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a dangerous one to watch on a rest day no?🤣just gets your palm sweaty and want to climb right away

  • @judemecham5175
    @judemecham5175 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Utah momentum we have a couple v1 that should be v4

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe it’s worth a visit🤩

    • @ascotter
      @ascotter ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I go there and that’s so untrue lol our gyms are SO SOFT

    • @atelieralpha4552
      @atelieralpha4552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Feel like in some gyms the lower grades are pretty variable if the setters are used to climbing higher v grades.

  • @chun7798
    @chun7798 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are no limits to black tape. it is just it starts at v10

  • @averageboulderer
    @averageboulderer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is where the Internet downgrader climbs.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this is where the internet downgrades think they climb

  • @biomorphic
    @biomorphic ปีที่แล้ว

    The gym looks great and the boulders amazing, but I do not understand why they need to downgrade the problems. The grade should be objective. Unfortunately, even in the same gym, grades are often completely wrong. And in London there are gyms harder than others, it is not all the same. Even between gyms of the same chain there are differences, because some boulders are set by local routesetters, some by regional routesetters, so to speak.

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s just a different standard I think, they are not trying to create climbs according to the v grade, it’s just a comparison thing that they have, but they grading is very consistent and at the end of the day, the grading makes sense if you look at how far they grading chart goes, there’s so much room for progression

  • @jonnes__4657
    @jonnes__4657 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🗽Hardest gym ???
    You never have been to my climbing gym in Austria. 🥴
    .

    • @Jonathan_sin88
      @Jonathan_sin88  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One day maybe 🤪

    • @jonnes__4657
      @jonnes__4657 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jonathan_sin88 Some gyms are harder graded than others. Same in Austria. It depends on the route setter strength.
      .