Britain heading towards ‘elected dictatorship’ says former Home Secretary
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2024
- Lord Clarke launched a scathing attack against Rishi Sunak's Rwanda Bill last night, warning the UK is 'hurtling towards an elected dictatorship.'
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The problem of this country is people keep voting for parties who continuing hurting and punishing us
Yes!
The definition of insanity...
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome (👈paraphrasing)
Common denominator the privy council. Run by an unelected monarch.
We keep voting for wankers
It's not the parties that brought about the banking crash, nor Brexit, nor Covid. It was the bankers, the Leavers and Mother Nature. No party can wave a magic wand and put everything right. People like yourself are children who expect the grownups to make everything right...instantly.
@@2handsandwichesit's the same all over west. Problem is weak people and weak politicians, docile and unwilling to stand by their values. They're easy to stomp on and force to comply.
Problem is democracy itself and the state of big data modern media manipulation.
The British Government is more interested in collecting data on those buying television sets, than those buying inflatable boats.
elected? not even close, soon to be nominated by rich families and bankers.
How would you know if that were already happening? They removed Corbyn just for uttering words against Zionism
Always been the way unfortunately
Rishi is choosen by rich elites due to his sleek criminal smoothness.
It makes no difference who is in number 10 when the country is run by groups outside of our borders.
@@scrappydoo7887 100% watching these puppets pretending to be politicians is a joke. When the government ignores the will of the people, they cease to be government and have become a tyrannical state.
the irony of an unelected lord talking about us heading towards an elected dictatorship
Well I not comply if that's happen
Why do you have to be elected to talk about an elected dictatorship.
He used to be ex Chancellor and Home Secretary
@@theancientsancients1769 And invited Oswald Mosley to speak at the Cambridge young conservative association when he was a student there. Always pro EU anti British.
I thought the 'elected dictatorship' was referring to the most likely next government being led by a euro lover tbh
So in a nutshell Sunak has approved £240 millon to date to send not one person to a dictator in control of Rowanda yet has allowed people from Rowanda to seek asylem in the UK as they feel threatended in Rowanda
240 million is less than finding ten pence down the side of the sofa. meanwhile they sell off our ability at making any pretence of being able to defend ourselves.
can't even make our own passports. if aliens are angry at what powerful nations have done, our govmnt doing great at fooling them 'it weren't us, guv..'
Rwandan citizens fleeing from Rwanda have been granted asylum in the UK, because Rwanda is not a safe country.
Sunak has given more than £240 million to a small african dictatorship in a deal which means, even though we haven't sent anyone to Rwanda and are not likely to, Rwanda can send anyone foolish enough to seek refugee status in the unsafe Rwanda to the UK and claim asylum and become refugees here instead.
Rwanda is the sixth safest country for solo travelers, can the UK beat that?
I'll bet that place stinks like a nursing home.
@marktrotter8971 he wants to send the Rwandan to the Ukrainian war right because the British general public won't go right ?
If a vote meant anything we would not have one.
The ballot box is dead.
You're right it's about the selected not the elected
Those speed boats are not being dragged all the way from North Africa.
Find the company that is delivering those speed boats to the French coast and you will quickly find out who is complicit.
If the French government really wanted to stop the migrants Im sure they would have stopped someone delivering high end inflatable speed boats to the same location every day.
Seriously, look at the situation in reverse.
If people were flooding in to France, it would be pretty conspicuous if some boat company was delivering 10-20 rubber speed boats per week, to the same stretch of coast just outside town.
Find out where the dingies are coming from and why the French government havent stopped the deliveries.
The trouble with investigating is, they might find the culprits; and then they might have to arrest them. Then who will bring in the migrants on boats?
It is actually not illegal to get on a boat off Calais.
The Problem is UK is under comand of USA open borders. George Soros . Gangsters
@@annepoitrineau5650they must be coming to Calais with their bucket and spades and jumping on a pleasure boat. It’s illegal when 30 men are jumping on these boats to cross the water.
Exactly, it is impossible to believe that the French secret services, along with MI5/MI6 do not know who is supplying the boats, and who the people traffickers are, and are unable to arrest and disrupt their activities. It's obvious our traitorous government/establishment have agreed to take them all .
Mr Sunak recently being "canonized" by Penny Mordant in what she called "Gods own country" - bit odd for a Hindu PM????? Will the Penny drop?????
A Hindu views the entire universe as God's and everything in the universe as God.
Only Pennys' underwear, when ever she wants to get further up the greasy pole (no pun intended !.......oh yes it was !).
Enoch Powell warned the country where it was heading, now you have it in your lap!!
Yeh and men like him were vilified, just as Tommy Robinson is today, Enoch warned us some 50 years ago what was coming, just as Tommy did about the grooming gangs some 20 odd years ago, which what both men said has come true, when will our men wake up and man up.
Your right about that,
er!! Are you now giving Enoch Powell with powers of futurology??
You know not of what you speak, so once in your arrogant, or is it ignorant, life listen!!
My parents came here in 1959 the days when McMillan told (poor working class ) people " they never had it so good!!
I came to Britain in 1960, and Powell told White people I ( at 15/ 16, working in a factory was a danger to them, that we Black Caribbeans would "swamp" them, a theme later borrowed by Thatcher for the same purpose!!
We Black Caribbeans worked and continue to work in all areas of British society , we have built ourselves as a community and as a consequence built this country over the periods of at least six decades!!
It is not anything to do with Black people the condition and problems of Britain today, tis simply that White people have allowed themselves to be conned by the rich, powerful elite, that sold/ sells them 🐂 s,**,t about diversity and such nonsense!!
The majority of Black people of that era had/ have never asked anything of this country, we have worked to build our own families, push our children to achieve, and now more and more our grandchildren, something I can attest to!!
What happened and continues to happen is that the people have no real representation of their issues, the Wilson Labour Party died in the 1980,s when Margret Thatcher conned the working class that their future was one of leisure on welfare!!
This is now the great dilemma the UK has, it wants to pretend it is the "saviour" of the world when in fact it has no means of actually being so!!
It is not rocket science to stop the " boats" once and for all, but now, just as on the U S the Government, the
Meant to continue!! The Sunak and the Starmer regime - yes just one regime- work on the principle that the more they welcome the boat people the more likely they will win their future vote!!
For me, as a PhD qualified political scientist from a redbrick University, I would remind both these deluded leaders the thoughts of a famous economist, actually a advisor to Margaret Thatcher in the 80s,
" You can have an open border, or you can have a Welfare State ,- Pick one!! No State can afford both!!
That's starkly evident both in the US and the UK today!!
Ken i am very sorry to inform you but the British public have lost any faith & trust of the Conservatives & Labour many years ago to carry out the public mandate
great! will they stop voting for their own slavery at some point then?
the election circus could be interesting this time though.
Rwanda plan is pointless and it's about time the public had a referendum on Proportional representational voting. The system is broken. We could have a referendum done within weeks. Personally I don't want even Labour as majority party. They'll be just as bad.
The problem for the UK - like most of the western world - is not one of an elected dictatorship so much as an elective idiocracy...
They're responding to billionaire boss backing, it is completely logical from that angle.
Why do the many put up with it?
You know what happening in Gazza is going to happen in Britain. Resistance is strong
Well, I know that he has had problems with drink and drugs over the years, but he was still a superb footballer.
Sadly Gazza’s resistance was not strong enough. He still had it in the euro ‘96 tournament but Jimmy was leading him astray.
Gazza was English not British. Cheeky get.
@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733😂
do you mean Gaza or Gazza the great player back in the day
You know things are bad when the UK working class are hoping putin liberates us 😂
If you think it’s bad here you should really try and look what it’s like is Russia or many other parts of the world, I don’t think you have a clue how lucky we are in this country
@@timknight2834You've been to Russia?
What do you mean liberate us?
We can openly bash the government without threat of imprisonment.
It's amazing how brain washed people are to think Russia are the good guys.
@@AllanBurkinshaw-xo7gm I have. And it was lovely as a tourist. I wouldn't want to be a citizen though.
@@timknight2834 Yes, we are lucky that our own government has nothing but contempt for us, they continue to raise taxes as a preportion of the economy, while runing down and restricting public services, and continue to allow career criminals to go free, while persecuting the general public for noticing and voicing their displeasure on social media, and thank god for "Non-crime hate incidents"; to criminalise people, as the overweight and useless police force continues to focus on the real problem of imagined prejudice, and not allowing petty crimes like 90% of robberies and break-ins to take up valueable police time. So lucky.
We lost control along time ago !
the political class did, the british people always had more common sense just weren't given the option.
We had it briefly. Just after the war - apparently, but people die and some of the lessons have to be learned all over again.
Brexit, Scottish referendum proves you wrong!
We must protect democracy from the will of the people at all costs!
Democratic citizens have the right and freedom to elect the dictator of their liking.
So long as it is the right dictator as chosen by the right party - look at Russia - which is where the UK is currently heading unless unelected politcal "appointees" in the House of Lords take a stand against it.
@@marktrotter8971
Russia has elections which is more than you can say for Ukraine
Russia has an opposition, which is more than you can say for Ukraine.
Russia isn't rounding up and jailing priests, which s more than you can say for Ukraine.
@@user-bc7vz2co3mThe last thing I heard about the opposition in Russia, they were being held in a Siberian prison.
However said dictator does not have the right to violate the law.
@@viperzvapourz4738better than the opposition and the media in Ukraine that just get disappeared
I just want my country back thank you.
Amen to that cos right now it's like being a stranger in a strange land 🇬🇧🤢
What other secret "financial" deals were done between Sunak and The bug man in Rwanda
One man's last stand to keep some sort of democracy there.
Get lost Clarke. You were a disaster in the commons, and still are in the lords. Stop lording it over the people of this country. Tear down the unelected Lords.
Our political system is moving closer and closer to the USA. Politics is failing utterly to close the ever widening gap between the rich and poor. We have now even got to the stage where working people cannot afford to pay rent and for proper food. The madness must end.
Stephenswales8940. Welcome to our new Dickensian society.
He should have a podcast. Wonderful old school reason
Parliament is not sovereign the people are sovereign.. We no longer have seperation of powers.
We never had separation of powers. Look at how we had and have it set up
We don't have control our border force should be reported to trading standards
Border
France is much closer to a police state than the UK. Their Gendarmerie coukd take decisive and aggressive action if permitted.
They also have more protests and civil unrest to deal with. The British public seems more inclined to grumble and winge and then do as they're told.
Im worried about this as we have a election soon and cannot wait to vote the torys out and replace them with either the red torys or yellow torys
Nigel and Tommy await in the wings... we'll have our country back.
@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733lol give your head a shake.
That same controlled opposition bs was tried during Brexit and farage sold out just like he will this time.
Reform is just another bs circus show
they transition these days
Have you looked at the national debt recently? Really sorry that it's not 1997 and we've not had 18 years of prudent stewardship of the economy. You might've chosen to put it down to brexit, but we had to reverse all the good work that was done during austerity for something that was essentially end of life. Something we'll all have to go through one day.
@@paulpenfold2352 tax Bezos and the billionaires might help
Corruption in both parties
Why try to make deals with foreign governments? Just give the migrants a one-way ticket to British Overseas Territories.
They're all quacking insane. We're finished.
dictatorship? Isn't that the house of lords and bilderberg he used to be on the steering committee for years..this guy is pure slime
Wakey,wakey !!
We know the PM and opposition are hand picked. We are given who to vote for. Immigration is dangous to the Jewish people in Britain and into the future, we see the signs starting in our days today.
lol
Over my short 30 -40 year lifespan ive seen my country and culture become unrecognisable from what it was .
I see good values disappearing every day , i was reminded of this by going to the middle of nowhere in scotland
Away from birmingham .
People said good morning, wanted to sit down with you as strangers, have friendly conversation , ask where youre staying, laugh then offer their home as a means to bed and a meal in the evening .
I grew up in a place like that , that place hasn't moved , most of the buildings are the same , the weather's the same...what changed ? The people and the culture .
I dont speak as if my culutre was any better or theirs any worse .
I speak as if i long for a time when people were cultrually cohesive and a time when i could recognise the strange and foreign language spoken in my town .
A good example, i moved to italy , i learnt the language, i respected the culture and despite not being a catholic i even went to church with the village as that shows repect to their culutre .
I should hope people would do the same here .
I want my country back....i fear it will never happen .
I couldn't agree with you more. When in Rome ....
That applies to us Brits as much as anyone else.
The only old people's home in the country that pays you to attend.
I bet it smells of pish
He's right. England has a leaky ship, that's the street news.
The biggest problem facing Britain is that it does not have a formal, written constitution. Its all based on historical convention and precedent, and the only final authority has a bed in Buckingham Palace.
So there is little restraint on government in the absence of a set of rules which would also have to be protected by the monarch. The whole convention of the PM fronting up on a Friday to the Monarch with his plans for legislation is not a check against excesses of government today. It was before WW2 when a Monarch had the guts to actually do something which would be unheard of today and say no, you're sacked. A formal Constitution not only provides a solid set of rules, but also empowers a monarch with a responsibility to protect them.
Tony Blair taught us that all constitutional reform is just cynical perpetuating of a power base. Look at how he drew a political boundary around what was essentially a giant labour constituency in London. In America they'd call that gerrymandering. The conservatives need to get off their pedestal and start mucking in with stuff like that rather than pompously staying aloof. We need a new populism that scraps. Not one that despises the poor and mollifies it with printed money from the bank of England.
Oh, what a wonderful world we live in, where one person can single-handedly make all the decisions for an entire nation. Long live Rishi Sunak, our beloved dictator! 🙄
We have had that dictatorship for decades now , let's put a stop to it......vote Reform.
More of the same stuff.. it goes beyond voting at this point
Reform is literally Liz trusses budget and will be far far worse then what we have now
We don't think you have lost control, you have lost control and mass DEI is a disaster for this country.
Democracy isn't what we have.
A right Kennethful of hot air!
When was the last time the public elected the EU commission?
Wtfu talking about?
@digbycrankshaft7572 The EU commission obviously.
Useless
It's good to be reminded of our Constitution and that the 'Sovereignty of Parliament' must remain within the rule of law and our Constitution - which means it cannot be Sovereign!
The checks and balances in our Constitution rightly protect us all from those who would make laws for their own gain and not for the people.
It does kind-of make those laws. LOL.
People need to stop voting for the main parties! We need reform, vote Reform👍
How do you reform a corrupt system and all it`s institutions .
1:42 _"Multi-Cultural"_ is just a euphemism for _"Segregated."_
@Stephenphilibin3319...Multi-culturism is also a euphemism for: a govt. that's weak - confused - indecisive - self-interested - devious - surreptitious - has a demographic agenda. Take your pick.
No effing way. We won’t stand for it.
We'll all be transformed into mindless drones for our government whether we like or not.
The world is quickly becoming exactly like George Orwells 1984. It's closer than so many of us think!
If "" Democracy "" Was important the Ellit Will Never leave it for the people to deside Who Will be in Power 😂😂
Totally out of touch
yep classic Ken Clarke, completely out of touch
It’s weird when a politician says we’re headed towards what we’re clearly not.
1) A government elected in 2019 with a comfortable 80-seat majority is on its third leader in a single Parliament. It may even have a fourth before the 2024 Election. The current leader finds himself constantly trying to strike a balance between various political factions. The “political factions” include both MPs and politicised civil servants and judges. Rishi Sunak is probably the least Caudillo-like PM we’ve had since Alec Douglas-Home.
2) The government has gotten into several fights with the Civil Service, where the bureaucrats disliked government policies on political grounds and therefore didn’t want to implement them. In every one of those cases, the government backed down and the blob got its way, usually after forcing out the minister they didn’t like.
3) The governments has gotten into several fights with the Judiciary, both national and European. Even though these arguments are 100% about politics, the government has so far always backed down, and accepted the principle that the political preferences of appointed judges must take precedence over the political preferences of voters and their elected representatives.
What we’re living though is a kind of political paralysis. It doesn’t matter who you vote for, if you want something different from the policies favoured by the bureaucracy and the judiciary, those policies will not be implemented. At least Labour is now in the hands of Sue Gray, so it will presumably implement the policies she likes.
You don't know what are you talking about . Are you so Naive. Britain went to war in Iraq on FAKE Weapons of Mass Destruction stories. Bomed Libya No problems there "" But the so called UK Government can't stop some silly rubber boats . Give me a break. They don't want to stop emigrants just pretend they do 😂😂
That the party with 43.6% of the votes had a comfortable majority in Parliament is where the issues began. And now the party that has the heaviest electoral bias in its favour is reforming the electoral system to make it... Less biased against them. Amazing stuff.
Hopefully the left and right can come together and find common ground to get rid of this unelected, dangerous mess. There are many things coming to light that should scare people.
Didn't agree with corbyn on everything but the ones I did I know most rightwing people agreed with too like end all the nhs privatisation and utilities and leave the eu and properly tax bezos and other corporations and no mandates or passports or Identity cards and no forcing medication on its citizens and sending troops to fight for usa hegemony
@goonerboz6023 Agree completely, and I would be considered the opposite of a Corbyn supporter.
There has to be a point where differences are put aside and we all focus on the government trying to take away freedom.
Once a traitor forever a traitor, perhaps Ken could have a dozen move in with him instead of them being dumped in the council estate near me
🎯
Illegal boats have not been stopped -why? - of course it is out of control. We are being invaded. How else could you describe this state of affairs
They're a distraction to the millions they're letting in through the front door.
We never asked you to "Create a Multicultural, multiethnic society" we asked you to protect Britain.... just like you asked the British tommy to do in 2 world wars.
time to vote both sides out.
too late damage already done, im terrified to go out during the day in my own town, a pensioner ,been threatened twice by illegals.
Why hasn't this man retired from politics? His stance over the EU is well-known and his business links with
big business (tobacco?) still recalled. What a shame that Lady Thatcher pre-deceased him and others I can
think of that existed in the old Conservative Party..
Just study Dan Andrews , ex premier of Victoria Australia. He resigned but he was the closest we had to a dictatorship in Australian history . Every bureaucrat pandered to him , media fawned over him and political allies just voted according to his whims
All of these unelected backslapping lords dont have young immigrant men hanging tound their palaces. Time the Lords is scrapped
Hes spot on
IMMIGRATION REFERENDUM required on foreign population replacement
And we can STOP IT!
you all sold us out we will not forget it mark my words.
We already got that we're all under control
Defund the lords ,leave ECHR , return to our own laws that can return people to country of orgin or face chaos.
The people have spoken and the lords not listening.
Secure our borders!!! Simple.
Nobody elected Sunak 😂😂😂😂
Has he shopped in London lately.
These people live in the past. Rwanda is a modern French African country in the Commonwealth.
Agreed 💯
What hypocrisy! This guy would rather have us ruled by an UN-elected bureaucracy in Brussels and Strasbourg!
REFORM UK✔
Flipping excellent speech!!
Vote REFORM
Rwanda is the sixth safest country for solo travelers, can the UK beat that?
The Supreme Court ruled Rwanda is not a safe country after examining all the evidence. I think they know better than random Tory apologists on TH-cam.
Just another arrogant politician.
No. Heading towards Reform.
When Reform are VOTED IN BY A LANDSLIDE ANY DAY NOW 🙏🏻🇬🇧
Well said.
It’s not a finding of fact by the Supreme Court, it is an opinion. I doubt that any of the Supreme Court judges, nor this unelected house have been to Rwanda, let alone Africa.
Wrong.
He is on public money nice and comfortable and naive!
This man tried to overrule the results of the brexit referendum because he did not like the results. he tried to stop Brexit. He should be ashamed of himself.
No, he didn't. He supported Brexit while staying in the Single Market, i.e. what the Leave campaign promised during the referendum.
@@phueal you cant have single market because of free movement
@@christinepayne5206 ok, so if they’re mutually exclusive and yet the Leave campaign were saying people would get both, how do you think the 52% of voters who backed Leave breaks down? What proportion of them were voting:
1) to end free movement, even if that means leaving the Single Market;
2) to stay in the Single Market, even if that means we have to accept free movement?
@@phueal No he was completely opposed to it.
@@Fatjack-jy8gs during the “indicative votes” process he was literally the proposer for the “Brexit with Customs Union” option.
Put the armed forces in charge of stopping these people arriving in the first place.
If implemented successfully this would prevent many from even attempting the journey.
He is correct and it started - well as people noticed, as he became brazen with it, with Mark Drakeford and he has manipulated the system to invariably ensure it continues and even worsens by manoeuvring in his lap dog, who will continue to take directionsand instructions from Drakeford. This will certainly happen if Gethin gets in, he, of course, is the one who signed off spending over $4 million buying a farm - that they can no longer use for a festival, this apparently was the justification for the spending, on top of agreeing to vast payments as rewards for failure, to Senior people etc etc. Also famously well known for throwing a sickie when the first challenge for his responsibility ( at the time and never really worked at) such as Covid turns up.
We're already in a Dictatorship Lions lead by Goons
3:50 " Rwanda would face a real risk of ill-treatment as a result of “refoulement”
For those who miss heard (like me)
“refoulement” (being returned) to their country of origin.
Blah blah blah.............The UK is beyond repair
the one thing i have against boris is putting this privalaged man in the lords makes me wonder
Im more worried about the prophecies of enoch powell
A bunch of old timers huh 🤷🤷🤦🤦
As soon as its evident whats really happening itll hit the fan for the tories and labour .
orly? I don't remember electing anyone in the whole upper house
Well maybe we don't what just power-mad MPs running the country. If nothing else, the Lords do add stability.
@@grahambennett8151 put there by power mad MPs. they do not bring any stability, they merely add a layer of unavoidable corruption.
@@grahambennett8151 wtach this:
watch?v=zsc4tfTq2Bc
@@grahambennett8151 wow interesting my response is magically not here. censorship, Times? the HoL is filled by power-mad MPs running the country. it is peer-for-life installed by corrupt politicians, corruptly, and the members are corrupt. And most of them that weild power are those that want to.people get in by donating vast sums of money and influence things to thier biases. there are strong ties to putin in some members, ruling over us.
It is UTTERLY corrupt
@@grahambennett8151 Hey Time Radio! how about stop deleting comments? or do facts not sit well with a news organisation like yourselves?
I'm voting REFORM UK
It's shocking to think we sunk from that calibre of person to the likes of Suella Braverman as Home Secretary.
At least she has a backbone!
@@middleman9183 Just the one?
The quality of Lords debate is vastly better than the toe curling obsequiousness of the Commons.
You lost control years ago!
That's the problem, for people like Clarke the problem is purely "symbolic," as he doesn't live in the communities most affected by ilegal or mass migration.
Yes, the public are also suggesting this.
But you don't have control and probably never will 🤬🤬😡🤔
He said that the success of our multiculturalism that you and they created, that none of the indigenous english people didn't want.. talk about Dictatorship. Vote means nowt..
We have been in one for a long time and only get to vote on things that doesn't affect their cash balance.