"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." - Bruce Lee, after playing against Hoang and Fatslob back to back.
membTV is the most 'intense' caster probably, but imho in a bad way - I can't listen to him because he shouts all the time in his broken English, it's damn distracting! to the point I actually could't watch wololo games with memb; whereas T90 is perfect imo, as he is normally excited for a reason and his commentary surely makes games much more interesting :)
@@lancelotdulac6076 Memb has the same problem like other Spanish-speaking people - they have other vowel sounds than in English, so their pronunciation is off. Perhaps I'm little picky, but I can't ignore those not-so-right vowel sounds that Memb has and other people have their unfavorable opinions too. If he had a pronunciation of a native speaker, he would be much more successful as a streamer and the perception of his casts would be much higher in the AoE2 community.
Watched this on stream, but here to help T90 with YT algorithm :) Always love Hoang content, such an entertaining player! And I don't think I've seen anyone play defence quite like Hera. Amazing how he keeps his cool in these situations.
@@scott5088 I'm sure both of them can mount a great defence if needed. However I think Hera tends to play more defensively, while they tend to play a little more aggressively. I believe this causes Hera to find himself in such pressures more often.
I don’t care if people makes fun of you for introducing Hoang or for making him popular. I love you for it. Hoang games are SO entertaining. Thanks Tristan
Viper also has Hoang games on his youtube channel. Hoang is known because he is a genuinely good player, he is high up on the ladder, or else he wouldn't even be playing TheViper and Hera etc.
@@beerussama1023 Hera from what we have seen in the past year in arguably the best, Lierrey and viper aren't far but Hera is just getting better by the day and I believe it's safe to say the GOAT has been dethroned. Obviously Viper is still amazing it's just that hera has improved a lot. Lierrey is awesome as well, just because he rarely uploads to youtube casual viewers don't appreciate him as much as the snake and hera.
@@priyadharshanravichandran4483 he still needs to win plenty of tournaments every year like viper did, beating the best player in the world is only one step, the other is holding the hill against other players like yo and lierrey
The beauty of "all-ins" is that they can easily result in exotic yet balanced game situations, and this is a perfect example of that. It's the main reason why I never thought that Flemish Revolution was a fundamental problem.
Amazing game, well cast T90. For those interested, Hera made a great video on Hoang’s strategy and why it is so hard to counter, even when you know what is coming. Well worth watching!
It's like cheesing in Starcraft. Hoang couldn't do shit when the game turned back to being a proper AoE2 match. It's the same like when a cheeser gets countered in Starcraft and the game either turns to macro play or a complete loss for the cheeser. Cheesers/Lamers/etc can't play the game and rely on tricks, this is why Hoang lost in all tournaments, when his precious Celts got banned. Now you know why people "hate Hoang", because it's like losing a boxing match because you were hit under the belt or having to continue on after being hit under the belt several times. The game becomes frustrating and disdainful when all you see is this ape play. That's not to say that his strategy isn't permitted like a hit under the belt in boxing, it's just like trushing (or laming, but that's on another level of APE), there's little counterplay that isn't frustrating, it forces you into the same tricks as your opponent.
@@JustASuscriber There is no such thing as a “Proper AOE2 match”. The rules are laid out, and Hoang plays a strategy within them. I think we understand that he lacks skills in a lot of areas, but that’s what makes Hoang so impressive - he has maximised his rating in the game considering his relative skill level. And if Hoang has broken the game to a point where it isn’t fun, that says more about the game as a competitive game than it says about Hoang
@@Cream147player "There is no such thing as a “Proper AOE2 match”." Yes there is, there's competitive play and then there's ape trickery that only works in non-competitive play or 1 out of 1's. "The rules are laid out, and Hoang plays a strategy within them." And he loses anywhere important, AKA tournaments. You know what else was once rules "laid out"? Release Steppe Lancers, which were OP. Trushing was way better than it is now, again, it got nerfed because it became the only meta. You don't need something to be "outside the rules" to nerf it or to drop it completely, by the way. "he has maximised his rating in the game considering his relative skill level." Play as much as him and you'll eventually get there without having to be an ape. Play proper builds and you'll win just as much and maybe you'll have a chance in tournaments as well after you refine yourself. Your ape trickery will only get you so far and will just gather the disdain of proper players. Why do pros most of the times do not want to play against Hoang? It's like trying to get to a glass of water through a running oven. "And if Hoang has broken the game to a point where it isn’t fun, that says more about the game as a competitive game than it says about Hoang" This is a cope. No, he is at fault for this type of shit. He found a way to abuse the system and you all allow it because it's "fun to watch" and maybe you'll also use it for some easy ranked points since it has no other use besides that. 1 out of 1's work that way, after all. It's good though, that it's a very messy playstyle and doesn't work outside Celts, so it didn't pick up as a meta.
Monsieur hoang has the skill to pull off strats I’m too cowardly to attempt like I know Celt rams can rock the building but going straight to it ??? Much respect
Where does this wololo come from. I've seen people mention it a lot. But I've never really heard it in game. I've played the CD version, the 2013 HD version and now the DE edition of aoe2. Never heard the wololo in game
I think if Hoang would have destroyed some of those houses while hitting the TC he could have housed Hera, maybe giving him more of an advantage here. It's crazy how good these guys are at managing their pieces!
Sup guys, I got the game some months ago but I just did some campaigns just to get familiar again with the game (I used to play the ps2 version) and I was thinking to join some multiplayer games but since I saw tons of videos of T90 I'm honestly quite scared to just join and die in 30 seconds lol I know that most of his videos are recorded from pro players, but still... XD anybody could spare some time and give me some tips etc... maybe during an actual game please? You can add me on Discord in case, let me know and have fun all
There is an elo for everyone! Very few are as good as these guys. I'd just join what you want to play ranked, evo will eventually place yiu in the right spot. :)
Watch some Build Order videos Scouts into Knights Archer drush Practice them a lot vs IA And I would recommend get used to 2 civs for each Complete the Art of War camping with Silver/Gold archivement Then you can play Ranked and have success :)
I'm so glad hoang got his arse handed to him. 😂 I once played against him, he took my boars/sheep and deer. Oh also was forcing me to resign. Ultimately I won. Who knew that teutons are amazing against shit like that. Scouts were nearly monk immune and i also managed to make him kill his own monks with mangos. Without even saying gg he tapped out. Not very pleasant to play against someone this dirty who doesn't even have courtesy of saying gg.
Imagine being the Monk who has to explain to the king why he converted his religion, like, three times.
The only reasonable answer is money. Each time converted he got money
As Lithuanian, I can tell that this is historically accurate, our Duchies were going back and forth with religions in ~13th century.
Celts don't get atonement.
So no monks were converted back. Celts have a very sad monastery.
@@krityaan celts have very sad everything, except siege. Siege eat TC.
“Wololo” is a very convincing theistic argument, you have to admit.
if you dont have a tc it doesnt count as an idle tc.
thats actually hilarious.
Hoang games are so entertaining to watch. Even if he looses he has made the match entertaining to watch.
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."
- Bruce Lee, after playing against Hoang and Fatslob back to back.
T90 is the most intense caster ever! I have seen the EVO Championship Series and they are never as excited as T90!
membTV is the most 'intense' caster probably, but imho in a bad way - I can't listen to him because he shouts all the time in his broken English, it's damn distracting! to the point I actually could't watch wololo games with memb; whereas T90 is perfect imo, as he is normally excited for a reason and his commentary surely makes games much more interesting :)
@@lancelotdulac6076 Memb makes T90 seem low energy.
@@mitchellbaker4847 haha! and now remember memb casting together with Nili - such a stark contrast lol
@@lancelotdulac6076 Memb has the same problem like other Spanish-speaking people - they have other vowel sounds than in English, so their pronunciation is off. Perhaps I'm little picky, but I can't ignore those not-so-right vowel sounds that Memb has and other people have their unfavorable opinions too. If he had a pronunciation of a native speaker, he would be much more successful as a streamer and the perception of his casts would be much higher in the AoE2 community.
Watched this on stream, but here to help T90 with YT algorithm :)
Always love Hoang content, such an entertaining player! And I don't think I've seen anyone play defence quite like Hera. Amazing how he keeps his cool in these situations.
What about TheViper or Lierey?
@@scott5088 I'm sure both of them can mount a great defence if needed.
However I think Hera tends to play more defensively, while they tend to play a little more aggressively. I believe this causes Hera to find himself in such pressures more often.
"He's booming. He's got 4 farms." LOL! Love it
I don’t care if people makes fun of you for introducing Hoang or for making him popular. I love you for it. Hoang games are SO entertaining. Thanks Tristan
Viper also has Hoang games on his youtube channel. Hoang is known because he is a genuinely good player, he is high up on the ladder, or else he wouldn't even be playing TheViper and Hera etc.
That was some very good book waving action.
I love these unconventional players even if their playstyle is not practical at a competitive level. New and creative strategies forge innovation.
I mean Hera is the best player in the world. I would call that a competitive level.
@@forsakenquery I thought viper was the best player? Genuinely curious to know
@@beerussama1023 Hera from what we have seen in the past year in arguably the best, Lierrey and viper aren't far but Hera is just getting better by the day and I believe it's safe to say the GOAT has been dethroned. Obviously Viper is still amazing it's just that hera has improved a lot. Lierrey is awesome as well, just because he rarely uploads to youtube casual viewers don't appreciate him as much as the snake and hera.
@@priyadharshanravichandran4483 he still needs to win plenty of tournaments every year like viper did, beating the best player in the world is only one step, the other is holding the hill against other players like yo and lierrey
I've read playstyle as hairstyle, was confused
Hera in RED keeps throwing me off. LOL🙃
The beauty of "all-ins" is that they can easily result in exotic yet balanced game situations, and this is a perfect example of that.
It's the main reason why I never thought that Flemish Revolution was a fundamental problem.
Amazing game, well cast T90.
For those interested, Hera made a great video on Hoang’s strategy and why it is so hard to counter, even when you know what is coming. Well worth watching!
Hoang's awesome, absolutely love his mentality. How can anyone hate Hoang??
Hoang's everything I want to be and more
Ask those who play against him x)
It's like cheesing in Starcraft. Hoang couldn't do shit when the game turned back to being a proper AoE2 match. It's the same like when a cheeser gets countered in Starcraft and the game either turns to macro play or a complete loss for the cheeser. Cheesers/Lamers/etc can't play the game and rely on tricks, this is why Hoang lost in all tournaments, when his precious Celts got banned.
Now you know why people "hate Hoang", because it's like losing a boxing match because you were hit under the belt or having to continue on after being hit under the belt several times. The game becomes frustrating and disdainful when all you see is this ape play.
That's not to say that his strategy isn't permitted like a hit under the belt in boxing, it's just like trushing (or laming, but that's on another level of APE), there's little counterplay that isn't frustrating, it forces you into the same tricks as your opponent.
@@JustASuscriber There is no such thing as a “Proper AOE2 match”. The rules are laid out, and Hoang plays a strategy within them. I think we understand that he lacks skills in a lot of areas, but that’s what makes Hoang so impressive - he has maximised his rating in the game considering his relative skill level.
And if Hoang has broken the game to a point where it isn’t fun, that says more about the game as a competitive game than it says about Hoang
@@Cream147player "There is no such thing as a “Proper AOE2 match”."
Yes there is, there's competitive play and then there's ape trickery that only works in non-competitive play or 1 out of 1's.
"The rules are laid out, and Hoang plays a strategy within them."
And he loses anywhere important, AKA tournaments. You know what else was once rules "laid out"? Release Steppe Lancers, which were OP.
Trushing was way better than it is now, again, it got nerfed because it became the only meta.
You don't need something to be "outside the rules" to nerf it or to drop it completely, by the way.
"he has maximised his rating in the game considering his relative skill level."
Play as much as him and you'll eventually get there without having to be an ape. Play proper builds and you'll win just as much and maybe you'll have a chance in tournaments as well after you refine yourself.
Your ape trickery will only get you so far and will just gather the disdain of proper players. Why do pros most of the times do not want to play against Hoang? It's like trying to get to a glass of water through a running oven.
"And if Hoang has broken the game to a point where it isn’t fun, that says more about the game as a competitive game than it says about Hoang"
This is a cope. No, he is at fault for this type of shit. He found a way to abuse the system and you all allow it because it's "fun to watch" and maybe you'll also use it for some easy ranked points since it has no other use besides that. 1 out of 1's work that way, after all.
It's good though, that it's a very messy playstyle and doesn't work outside Celts, so it didn't pick up as a meta.
11:30 I wouldn't call "losing your tc, several production buildings and more" winning. maybe "not losing any more"
I dont think there is any neutral ground with hoang.
it hilarious that his name claims he can teach you "builds" - plural
It's like a site they're advertising or something. Some other Vietnamese guys also have it in their name
Yea ACCM has had the site in his name for quite a while. So there are definitely more conventional builds there too.
Hoang is booming he has four farms 😂😂😂😂
The most enjoyable Hoang game I've ever seen.
And sadly I've watched'em all, haha.
@T90 Hera spamming with villi after tc being eaten.....
Celts eat TC....Monks eat Celts....Great cast again thanks for sharing 👍
Monsieur hoang has the skill to pull off strats I’m too cowardly to attempt like I know Celt rams can rock the building but going straight to it ??? Much respect
I'm constantly stalking the LEL playlist, can't wait that private one to go public!
Shh 🤫
At monk v monk time, why doesn't Hoang add 2-3 scouts? He was floating ~250 food all the time
Hera serving that 5 star gourmet town center to hoang
A 2k5 stars TC ;)
those who say Hoang doesn't deserve to be popular are just freaking jealous; and he nearly got Hera there!
why isn’t there mod that replaces monk conversion sound to a classic “wololo”?
Where does this wololo come from. I've seen people mention it a lot. But I've never really heard it in game. I've played the CD version, the 2013 HD version and now the DE edition of aoe2. Never heard the wololo in game
@@go9565 age of empires 1
Isn't there an official mod from an event that does that?
@@Purin1023 Yes but you can't unlock those anymore. But since the data is in the files it's probably easy to mod.
@@go9565 enter "30" in chat next time you play
I hardly play AoE at all but I enjoy your uploads and commentary. Your content is fine screw those guys making fun of you.
Hoang is a true treasure.
Hoand isn't popular because of T90. He was popular/notorious within the community before T90 featured him.
Hoang’s existence is just the preeminent example of the saying “Don’t hate the player, hate the game.”
Incredible action, great players, great casting. AoE II is such a fun game to watch!
Hoang: Who needs their TC bussy ate?
Hera: OMG me!
Hera despises Arena solely b/c of Monk nonsense:
Atonement needs to be an Imp upgrade.
I was not aware of Hoang's good looks until I saw this vid's thumb.
Interesting, I rarely see atonement in games and here it changed the game!
Yay! Another Hoang Vid! WE LOVE HOANG VIDS, MORE THAN LEL!!!!!!!!!!!
Hoang is a nice combination of pro, LEL, and micro.
Lol Hoang is Vietnamese and playing Celts and Hera is Canadian and playing Vietnamese
Dear Hoang: When you've eaten the TC, the damage is done. Booom :) Then eat everything
Hoangs playstyle is really similar to the aggression of star craft or command and con red alert players
It is fascinating that you know exactly what he will do, and it still works. He makes pros seem like noobs
With that title and thumbnail how could I resist.
I love the heavier use of different units.
I think if Hoang would have destroyed some of those houses while hitting the TC he could have housed Hera, maybe giving him more of an advantage here. It's crazy how good these guys are at managing their pieces!
T90 I'm happy you make things/ people popular
1:06: "TH-cam SMELLS"
I am offended.
what a game! loved it
the man the myth the legend. one of a kind. HOANG! hera playing vietnamese. hoang is vietnamese.
His base looks like pulling flipping hera off on the mini map XD @T90Official (dark age)
What's this mod with the conversion lines?
that was fantastic!
Hopefully, one day Hoang will meet his Celt girlfriend...
When i see all this emty farms, i wonder why he did not place a tc there again.
Hoang games are so nice to watch. Are there any other Hera games that interesting to see (haven't seen any after this one)?
@t90 thank you for making stupid things popular! I mean it :)
Sup guys, I got the game some months ago but I just did some campaigns just to get familiar again with the game (I used to play the ps2 version) and I was thinking to join some multiplayer games but since I saw tons of videos of T90 I'm honestly quite scared to just join and die in 30 seconds lol I know that most of his videos are recorded from pro players, but still... XD anybody could spare some time and give me some tips etc... maybe during an actual game please? You can add me on Discord in case, let me know and have fun all
There is an elo for everyone! Very few are as good as these guys. I'd just join what you want to play ranked, evo will eventually place yiu in the right spot. :)
@@SephonDK Well the problem is that my pc it's oretty awful so I can't do ranked but only "random" games, that's why I was asking some help ahahah
Watch some Build Order videos
Scouts into Knights
Archer drush
Practice them a lot vs IA
And I would recommend get used to 2 civs for each
Complete the Art of War camping with Silver/Gold archivement
Then you can play Ranked and have success :)
@@ABeL130 Alright I'll try it when I'm back home, ty for the advice :D
3:45 Did Hera kill his own scout?
11111111 you're pure gold T90 😂😂
nomnomnom
Hoang is the Fatslob of open maps, you know what is coming but can do very little
4:54
i feel like Hoang would be even better with Saracens
I would like to see a Hoang for every civilization (Not just Celts).
You can check Biry s TH-cam page. He's Mongols Hoang version. And T90 hates playing against him as well lol.
Hoang shoulda made more scouts to deal with monks.
Is there any interview of Hoang?
Really, I would lovd the what The Legend has to say
Hera is insane
Is Hoang a Vietnamese ? What an irony
he is lol
@@gideonvictor that actually only 2, and only 1 for ppl's name
are there AoE 1 DE multiplayer casters?
I dont see a lot of AoE 1 DE content in youtube
I demand that if any player is good at multitasking, you refer to it as a Leelo Dallas Multitask. Please.
Can anyone explain why neither player used light cav to win the monk war? Especially Hoang.
Looking forward to the Hussite Wagon videos more. When?
Does Hoang have his own chanel? I want to know, please!
T90, I've been trying to play this video all day. Justs keeps buffering.
fixed
We have so many AOE heroes right? we need some antagonists also! Hoang is equal too an evil Engineer without beeing all evil i guess xD
Hoang should have built Castles
Hoang with LEL macro but pro micro, and it makes people mad
Anyone keeping track of the knights? have any been converted multiple times
Hera so fast
Yeeeesssssssss, I've. Been begging for a Hoang game forever, MOARRb
I'm so glad hoang got his arse handed to him. 😂 I once played against him, he took my boars/sheep and deer. Oh also was forcing me to resign. Ultimately I won. Who knew that teutons are amazing against shit like that. Scouts were nearly monk immune and i also managed to make him kill his own monks with mangos. Without even saying gg he tapped out. Not very pleasant to play against someone this dirty who doesn't even have courtesy of saying gg.
Thats some cursed thumbnail.
why hoang didnt wall his monks around so they dont die in that fight ? :-)
can't have idle tc if you don't have a tc
Celt eat TC!
Nice
of course t90 loves hoang, he doesn't get to play him, players like nicov actually hate him (i believe)
Hoang brings another aspect to the game. It's so fun to watch.
excuse me what is this i am watching
There’s something I love to eat as well, and it’s called PUS-.. okay, it’s shepherd’s pie.
I’m sure you don’t like dumb things. To prove this.. who’s your cartoon waifu?
If a Hoang eats a TC in the forest and no monks are around to heal it, does it start the game already?
what is this, a copy aztec rush monk?
Hey t90 like your content but I don't rly like to know what's happening in the game because of the title, keep going 👍
So he likes knights. Why Celts?
Siege
Wololo
Bulgaria vs Ireland televised.
Hoang got the TC but Hera won from pure point lead.
Hey, T90, I know video editing is not your core business, but please, try not to cut the video in the middle of a word :)
I really hate Hoang hahaha.
vietnamese win
I can control only 2 or 3 team/ units at once. Hoang use monk + knight+ spear+ vil+ ram+ mangonel+ scorpion.
Damn..
hoang eat tc lul
nice