The best thing about it is that he doesn´t even know how cute he looks in these moments :D He certainly tries to manipulate Tav´s emotion to his advantage but he doesn´t pretend the vulnerability if his playthrough is to be believed.
I really love how vulnerable he was in this moment. I wish we could draw him and give that as a gift to him or something. You know as a homage to the fact that fans love drawing Astarion despite most of them prefer to romance Gale. 🤣
@@Mmogurl Keep going with these videos. You're doing gods work I swear. 🤣 Maybe Larian will give us even more Astarion content 🥺 I'm greedy, I NEED MOAR! 🤣 By the way you mentioned drawing yourself, do you have any art account we can follow?
God I was smiling and giggling like an idiot throughout all of this. I couldn’t bear to insult Astarion so thank you so much for choosing those. He’s so flustered and shocked! I also lost it when he flourished and spun around when you tell him you’re kidding. Nobody else can play him other than Neil Newbon 🥰 You’re making me wanna play this game all over again!
You should! :D I really enjoyed my patch 5 playthrough and was shocked to find so many new scenes. My hub had said there were a couple new ones, but I didn't expect them to be these full fledged dialogues!
I kinda wonder if Astarion doesnt act serious because he's protecting himself. Like he dosent want to catch to many feelings incase something goes wrong. Hence his general flirty sarcastic attitude. I wouldnt be surprised if he is constantly on guard waiting for Cazador or one of his minions to come out of the shadows to get him. Or is just waiting for this whole tadpole event to go utterly sideways, kind of thing. Well thats just how I read him.
That's EXACTLY what I thought when I first started talking to Astarion; haven't romanced anyone besides Shadowheart so far, but I've always liked Astarion and try to get along with him because he's fun. He definitely comes across like someone of two masks: Aloof and Arrogant. But behind them seems to be a cracked vase trying to hide from anything more than a harsh breeze; I really hope they'll flesh out the more friendly route with him too so he can have a confidant in either way and that we get to learn more about him throughout the game
This is why I like Astarion, the events and dialogue that leads up to the romance really draws you in and helps you come closer to the character. They need to have this kind of stuff for the other romances!(especially Gale, in my opinion!😍)
I agree completely! My one complaint is that I really want to see them flesh out the other companions as well. Gale had a lot of scenes already though, so maybe they feel like he's good for now. But what about Laezel, Wyll, Shadowheart?! There's not nearly enough there.
Astarion's still my favorite character, his sultry woe is me expression aside, they did well so far characterizing him with nuance. I actually do think his wrap-up is fine. If someone isn't used to being genuinely intimate with someone else in a sincere/vulnerable way, re-creating a bit of distance by being standoffish or aloof right after helps. Bit personal I suppose, but it's something I tend to do, so might just be me/just my perspective, but I think it makes sense here, intentional or not, because backstabby vampires.
That's a good point. I don't do that myself so I guess it's hard for me to see it in someone else. But, now that you've said it.. it makes perfect sense to me! The whole, 'I said something really deep and personal and now I'm gonna take a step back so I don't look quite so invested!' :D
I think it's interesting that Astarion is the most positive when Tav comments specifically on the features that were changed when he became a vampire (his eyes and mouth).
@@svoba4af what always gets me whenever you say or do something to Astarion that may come off as a personal insult (with the exception of making fun of his trauma) is that he doesn't react as negatively as on might expect, if at all. Really plays well this double edge Astarion has. He's skin deep full of himself, but used to being humiliated and disappointed to the core.
@@hekatebleble4800 Now you've made me sad but you've hit the nail on the head. That's why my characters likes to tease him but is never rude or agressive no matter what he says.
@@svoba4af I also think that being a little "hostile" in a lovingly teasing manner is the way. This is how you breach the wall of the "seducer-seduced" game. If you just plainly butter him up he dismisses it as either you already eating off his hands (which he doesn't respect, it makes you the looser of the game) or trying too hard to seduce him (the thought he cannot let stand, because he sees himself as a predator in this particular dynamic). If you refuse to play by the rules and move the game out of the chess board, he knows it's real. Remember that smile when you show a little aggression during the romance scene? This is him taking something real out of this relationship. It sounds bad, but he used to do this so many times for reasons that were not his own and with the explicit intention to not get attached that it'll take a friendly kick between the familiar dance moves, for this experienced dancer to notice you're not putting your arms around him because it's just a part of the choreography. And the deeper, darker layer to that is we always tend to mirror our previous relationships, with family, friends, etc. And it looks like, sadly the only lasting relationship that he has is the abusive one with Cazador. We can imagine that every potentially healthy one must have been doomed for obvious reasons, ending in tragedy and disappointment. Sweet tastes sour to him. Juvenile, fleeting. Not real. But more grounded if it stings a little. Real.
That's my favorite Astarion scene. He enjoys this so much :3 Edit: I think he does the "now tell me I'm beautiful" thing, because the emotions are getting too intense for him - he covers it up with being silly. Just a guess oc :)
Yes @Yunfei81! Someone else mentioned that too and it's funny because I'm such a straightforward, wear my heart on my sleeve sort of person.. that I didn't comprehend the need to take a step back as a lot of other people do. I would just be like... "OK! Now tell me you love me and let's plan the wedding!" It's a good thing that's not an option for Tav to say, because I'd probably scare him off xD
@@Mmogurl strangely enough, I'm kinda both. E.g. I can give honest compliments no problem, but I can't take them very well. If it's too much emotion, I sometimes have to/want to leave the room for a bit - like during a movie or something. It's a very unpleasant feeling, worse if you know, it shouldn't be like that. I think it's a matter of being used to it, because for me, it's gotten worse since lock-downs. Astarion is a very well written character. 200 yrs of no control over his life + constant abuse. This shower of niceness must have been overwhelming. It's no wonder he attracts all the women. Naturally we want to repair him xD
@@Yunfei81 it does work quiet opposite with guys(I mean who are straight) lots of them consider Astarion annoying, they just hate the character and always leave him in a camp(Yeap, I had to watch a lot of walkthroughs at least in my native language). And I can actually explain why do they hate him😅
@@Nirraart males aren't known for their nurturing nature, yes. But to be fair: Most people just don't want to bother. If you aren't extroverted and free of issues, they move on. No offense, of course, they have their reasons.
I think this will end up being my all time favorite game, because it's the only one that makes it hard to resist a character that's "evil"... as much as I will always love Alistair and Cullen, Astarion seems like he has so many layers to him. The writers have done an amazing job making him so believable and irresistible.
Yes! I know exactly what you mean! Alistair was always special for me because he was "my first" romance in a game. When I played DAO for the first time, I played it like 4 years after it came out and had no idea what it was about. I was legit SHOCKED when he wanted to kiss me and had to shut my door and lock it when the sex scene happened lmao. I was always looking for the game guy that would replicate that feeling of it being so new and exciting.. or at least feel the same way.. but it just never really happened. I really like Cullen.. and I like Solas too.. Astarion was the first one to surprise me in the way Alistair did though. And he is much more complex, and I love that about his character! Man he's so sultry too! Like Alistair you could tease about being a virgin.. but Astarion on the other hand? Wooooo! *fans self*
@@egilsaga That's what I don't like about these games. I can't play my character the way I want AND gain the approval of the characters I want... My character is forced to act 'out of character' at some point which annoys me and breaks the whole immersion. That's why I loved Pillars of Eternity. As far as I remember the characters commented on your choices I think but there was no "he liked/disliked all choices you made and leaves the group" stuff. And the ending was the best (little spoiler warning I guess) Before the last bossfight, they kinda tell you that they may not like your decisions but because you went through this journey together for who knows how long, they'll stick by you no matter what choices you make. THAT's how it's supposed to be. In games like Baldurs Gate (1 & 2 because I haven't played 3) the friendship with your comrades seems like the kind of friendship you don't need or want. Like boy if you don't like the way I am you can f*ck off. It's been 3 years and you've fought through battles and experienced near death situations numerous times together but don't you dare choose the wrong colored shirt or he'll leave immidiately. (Sorry for the rant on a year old post XD)
I love how you broke down this scene in particular. It's always been one of my faves with him. And you definitely get the flirty/also serious vibes from him. And agree with the "I want to know what the world sees when it looks at me...what YOU see" line. It's so poignant and meaningful.
This is such a sweet interaction. Whether you're pursuing him as a friend or love interest, in this scene you can actually feel your bond with Astarion growing, where he's shifting away from using you as protection to being more comfortable/vulnerable with you. He's too adorable, ugh I can't take it. 😵
I think you consider the "romance build up" with Astarion to work better (compared as with the other companions) in the wrong way : he was used by Cazador to lure victims into his den, we can assume that flirting and tempting was his daily work. Thus I see all those "flirting" moments as what he feels more confortable with, what he does best, what he was taught to be for 200 years. The true honests moments he has are those when he is vulnerable/angry, not controling himself to be at his best, and those are the real build up for future relationship with him to me. :) The previous "love scene" we had until now shows that well to me : Astarion was all playing a show "I was waiting for that moment since I set eyes on you". This feels like theater, and I do bellieve a more honest Astarion will appear later on another "love scene" that will not be a play, and I can't wait fro that moment. :3 (I absoluetly love him, but these flirting moments don't seem sincere, they seem like he would have acted the same with any other woman, you know, like he learned his lines ?). Don't get me wrong though, he definitly likes Tav more than anyone else in the group at this point (that is depending on your choices of course), but I do not think his whole "soliloquy" here (sex scene) was what he really felt deep inside. Plus it takes place during the one night you can finally relax all together, and for most of the companions, it's more of a "let's enjoy this night and have fun" than a "let's build a long term relation ship". La'zael only wants to **** you as a praize and is not thinking one second about feelings, Gale as his "I wanna know if I could still conquer a woman" moment (I mean, he obviously still feel for his godess, and I feel you're more of a charisma test/replacement, than a true lover for him at that moment), ShadowHeart building is quite logic to me (she slowly comes to trust you, so why not enjoy that night with the only person she trusts in this camp ?), and Wyll is... Erh, wyll ? (I never uses him, I've even never have found him on my first playthrough xD).
Playing on launch a year later here. You got it pretty much down packed for the most part. Near the end, the more honest, truer version of Astarion.. at least when he seems to be actually serious is more subdued from his normal very sarcastic, mean and flirty attitude. He speaks much softer and acts a bit more shy, which I guess is probably closer to who he really is deep down. His VA did a wonderful job switching it up and you can certainly feel the vunerablity in his voice. While, I do think he is putting on mostly an act to protect himself some of both versions of him can be true. All we know from his past life is that he was a magistrate that pissed off the gur people leading to an attack that may or may not have had Cazador invovled and may or may not have had Astarion sending Gur people to prisons for vampire feeds. Which basically means Astarion was kind of an attorney in his previous life, someone meant to hold up the law. He was in the upper side of society, so you assume he had to be smart and have some kind of moral code if just at one point in his life. Not sure if he was corrupted by choice or force. I do kind of wish we could get a tiny bit more about his past life other than that though.
tbh, I think it does make sense that he doesnt tell you that you are beautiful back when you tell him he is beautiful since he only says that when you jokingly say that he isn't as 'handsome' as Gale. When you just straight up say that 'you're beautiful' it is indicative that he doesn't need to 'work' too much to have your approval in his eyes. He strikes me as a person who loves the thrill of the chase, so this is pretty consistent to his character imo.
Honestly I love how the compliment and reflected on someone else's eyes things are seperate. It allows a fresh sort of romance each time, rather than only one option giving a great answer. Kind of like how in Dragon Age where you can either ask your love interest to your tent, or you can be patient and they'll ask themselves. Patience definitely pays of there with Alistair, but with Zev it's about equal with that teasing dialogue when you ask him.
lmfao - He was definitely fishing for compliments! That was one of my thoughts for a title for this video xD I was also thinking something along the lines of.. even hot vampires have low self esteem! But I didn't want to pick on him too much. I figure after 200 years it's not completely invalid to want to know how other people see you. :D
@@Mmogurl It makes sense what you are saying. To me, he does come across as somebody pretty vain, however, he doesn't strike me as somebody with low self-esteem. He just wants somebody to stroke his ego. Also, I think when he says he needs to sleep to catch up to competition, I think he means to the person you compared him with. Maybe I have read that wrong :).
Right! He talks about his eyes turning red and I'm just like.. but they're soooo pretty! I love playing drow and having those beautiful reddish pinkish eyes
When you said that your Tav is a you that could express things in a way you normally cannot it really resonated with me. BG3 is the first rpg I’ve played solo and it just feels so good not having to behave within the confines of a what is expected in the real world. I can openly pursue a man (or even two! or a woman!) without being told I’m too bold for a woman or that I’m asking for too much. I can befriend all the animals without being called a crazy cat lady!
I've seen his soft side here. Its really important to him. I like his reaction, when i ask what color were his eyes before. Of course, the scene ended with flirting, but I liked to see this part of his personality.
Can somebody explain to me how his hair is literally the most stylish and f'n PERFECT out of all the characters......and he can't even see his own reflection?!! I mean seriously...how does he do it?!!! Does this mean we're all just a bunch of talentless walking disasters or that he's some kind of hair styling genius? This has to be a plot hole....a most welcome one mind you.😏
I know literally nothing about BG lore but love your videos with Astarion! ♡♡♡ Can't wait for the full release of the game. And that seductive tone at the end... woohoo lol I wish you could voice a character in BG, I really like your voice!)
That was just my Astarion voice! You should hear my actually trying to be seductive voice xDBut, my hub was talking to me the other day about the possibility of one day voicing a character in BG3 or another game and I was like OMG THAT WOULD BE AMAZING! Didn't even realize I wanted to do it until he said that, but I would be ALL OVER IT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ME IN YOUR AMAZING GAME, LARIAN! :) Now I need to do a video with my seductive voice - it can be like an audition! haha thanks again for the comment ^_^
I don't understand how people can hate Astarion. I scream whenever during all his dialogue and I'm a straight guy. Also love your analysis and your feelings on the dialogue!
yesssss X) !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Girl, I've been waiting for you to cover this scene since it's one of my favorites as well! You literally hit all the marks on my overall thoughts for it so I feel like I don't have much to add beyond thanking you for another lovely scene analysis ♡. I will say that it's definitely not just you. Larion has definitely taken their time with Astarion and the romance build with him more so I feel than others just in how much conversation, choices, and scenes that have been put into it. He's not what I'd call a slow-burn romance the way that Shadowheart is, but they both definitely make you put in work for it which I must say is well worth it for the pay off & for absolute gems like this scene. They've done it with Gale as well but compared to Astarion & Shadowheart the weave scene & the after party moments with him feel extremely abrupt in comparison. Also, because you mentioned it I must say that Lae'zel's interest while definitely abrupt I feel is meant to be more blunt, generally speaking, and as a part of who and what she is rather than a lack of work. I truly (HOPE) believe there will be far more build up with her in the full release of the game where Tav will be able to become someone she sees as a worthy partner instead of a fun romp in the bedroll when she fancies it. A part of why I think that is 100% the fact that if she comes onto Tav at the party & is rejected, she has NO problem looking to other members of the party to satisfy her. For right now at least it's the furthest thing from personal as it could possibly be & I feel some major slow burning is gonna happen before we see whatever she may feel for Tav go beyond that, & rightfully so given the lack of build there has been. & lastly without spoiling anything scene-specific I will say I hope you manage to get the scars scene soon so you can see it for yourself as aside from this one, it's one of my absolute favorite scenes between Astarion & Tav! It's not nearly as flirty as this scene gives you the option to be but it definitely matches it in intimacy & how very vulnerable Astarion can be when it comes to Tav & Tav alone (so far), there's a speck of dialogue that even hints at Astarion definitely caring about Tav quite a bit more than he's acted/verbalized so far beyond enjoying them as a companion, ally, and lover. I could be reading too far into it *straightens my shipper glasses*, but it's part of why I'm looking forward to you seeing it yourself & hearing your thoughts on it. All that aside though, I can definitively promise you it's well worth the work to make that scene pop! As always this was fantastic, can't wait for the next one! PS: First time I saw this scene I totally went for teasing him first then soothing his frazzled self with some genuine feedback because ngl I love the more banter/flirty mix dialogue options they give you options for with Astarion because I feel it just fits nicely & I'm a sucker for ships where the two aren't just lovers but are playmates & best friends as well which means some good natured roasting from time to time. BUT-------, I did save before this scene on my playthrough and I gotta say the straight sincere options rather than starting with teasing definitely lends a certain something to the scene that even with Astarion turning things playful doesn't dissipate the scene itself being... softer for it somehow. Ugh, SO DAMN GOOD, THIS SCENE WAS SO GOOD!!!!!
Uggggh I neeeed to see that scene. Like it's been bugging me but I haven't had a lot of extra time to do a single playthrough just for one scene that I'm not sure I can even get to trigger.. but I really need to see it, so I guess I'm gonna be playing again lmao. Also, I totally agree about the playful side and I enjoy teasing him as well although my first instinct is always to be completely sappy LOL. Although I think I picked the shallow praise option on my first go-thru xD Now excuse me while I go start a new game!
@@Mmogurl it’s not like the shallow praise is a bad choice either! We were SPOILED with this scene ok 🙌 so many choices and all of them fantastic in their own way in their outcomes ❤️❤️❤️ But I know what you mean, I’ve seen a few scenes floating around in my recs portion of TH-cam for other party members that have had me like 👀 WHERE DID YOU GET THAT/HOW DID YOU GET THAT!!? So the need is very real, you aren’t alone 👁👄👁. As far as getting the scene I may have some tips since I’ve gotten it on all 3 of my consecutive playthroughs but don’t take any of it as gospel, I may not know what I’m talking about 😬 1. I’ve seen it enough in my own playthroughs and those of others that it’s highly likely each time your Tav reaches a new tier of status with a party member they’re probably gonna have some new dialogue at camp. SO, do what you’d normally do to pop the major scenes with Astarion (the boar the bite the book the mirror the after party) but pay close attention to your status with him cause before I knew what probably triggered new dialogue with party members I missed SO MUCH 😭 by not paying attention to that at all. 2. It’s not definitive but I’ve yet to get that scene to pop without romancing Astarion and going through with the after party scene with him since it’s after that where Tav sees his bare back and the scars on it for the first time (a fact that literally makes me 🥺 cause you gotta think about how long they’ve been traveling together at this point & how careful he’s probably been to hide it from everyone till now). 3. Both times I’ve had the scene pop Astarion was at VERY HIGH for his approval status with Tav. GOOD LUCK FRIEND!!!
Aww thank you! :) There are a lot of awesome people that come here to talk about sexy vampire men xD I enjoy going through the comments when I have the time! ^_^
Funny. Astarion and laezel are the only ones I think make sense to flirt out of no where. Astarion sounds as if he flirts with most. Seems like he's heavily inspired by Tom elis in lucifer. Laezel also makes sense as she's an alien that has a very different definition of romance. They mate with the strong for the most part, makes sense that she sees the bold actions of the player and how they handled combat and instantly starts flirting
I sooo hope we can have the chance in the future to use the tadpol to show him his face and he could also get a sense of how much the player cares for him. Or... we sketch him like one of those french girls :p
I think he backs off at the end because fear of intimacy tbh. Cazador has taken everything nice in his life and twisted it into a horrible parody, he's probably worried this is all going to come crashing back down on him.
I would like to see an extra line along the lines of '... but I also see more than just your stunningly handsome looks...' if you have high charisma and are romancing him. That would be a fun branch too. I also like that he shows a bit of vulnerability.
Oh yes! This is a good idea!!! Like imagine if you could say something about his personality.. like the good things he does when he thinks nobody is looking. That would be amazing!
I have to say, I always go for the comparison choices at the end of this dialogue. It's just so much better than just the basic "you're beautiful" choice. I'd argue that he flirts with you more if you choose "not as good as gale" or whoever. That whole jokingly mopey "I thought we had something special" and the thing about there being competition? It's so much more blatant flirting to me with that option than if you just tell him he's beautiful.
Hahah! I couldn't tell if I sounded stupid or if I was channeling enough Astarion to sound hottish. I ended up just keeping it because I thought it was funny lmao
This is my favorite scene. Complimenting him and then teasing him. Ie I like the way your hair curls behind your ears, the way your eyes crinkled when you smile. Even if he doesn't quite like it. Haha. Thats what you get when you seduce a bard a full picture. I wonder if we can let him see himself through our eyes via the tadpole
That would be really cool too! Someone else managed having Gale summon a mirror image as well. But you know what would really work?! If someone painted a picture of him! It would be cool if you could commission that artist in the Zhentarim hideout to paint one for him ^_^
It's a terribly cute scene, but they're not being very practical. There are, for one, drawings and portraits. Or, you know, ask Gale for a quick Simulacrum or Doppelganger spell. If he can recreate Mystra's face of of weave, surely he can conjure up some sort of solution here.
I feel like he makes that comment about him being beautifull, because Tav gives such honest answers. To me he feels embarrassed and playes it over with his flirty self.
@@Mmogurl my bf wants to wait until the game is co op like divinity 2 so we can play together. I have to hold back until their local co op version comes out 🥺 I watch ur videos to enjoy his scenes!, I love your input.
Yes I saw the update today! I'm torn now about waiting for another playthru.. it might make it easier to get the scars scene or it might make it worse.. They also might add stuff.. X_X I'll probably just do it..
@@Mmogurl I know, it almost becomes a game archaelogy with EA's doesn't it? More is always better from you I think, you do explain and open things up to thoughtful discussion so well. No antagonism or entrenchment, just appreication.
You know, this is the scene where his guards are down perhaps the most. Being Astarion, he is basically asking you to compliment him and is frustrated when you're not doing it but it's sweet nonetheless. Even if there is no cheerful ending for him, this is one of the momentě I'll choose to remember.
heck yeah - it's a great scene and I absolutely loved it! I'm convinced there will be a way to make it a happy ending though.. it damn well better be! Or I'll be complaining nonstop lmao
@@Mmogurl Also, I´m sad to hear you haven´t got the scar reading scene yet, I´m sure you´re going to love ti and will have the urge to give him a teddy bear :D As a tiefling or a warlock, you´ll be able to tell him even more about the scars. He can also tell you about the scars in the dialogue where he admits his dream was actually a nightmare about Cazador and you find the idea of a vampire poet funny, btw.
You're an amazing human. Thank you so much for making these videos. You clearly have a deep understanding about the character relationships and get as involved as I do. I love your in depth analysis. I think you're helping to make the game better because I think they do watch your videos! All of the changes you suggested I 100% felt the same way when I was doing my play through. Having the dialogue delivered in just the most fitting way really does make a difference, especially in term of replayability. I love going through the motions over and over with this character and especially with Astarion. I just can't get enough! For me it's dialogue options like this that turns an amazing game into a legendary game. Take Outer Worlds for instance. That game is truly brilliant. But this in depth of building relationships with the characters is what it was missing. All the options and how those options bring different options. Not only that but Neil Newbon literally recorded the same lines several times in different ways. And that's what make this game delicious. That's what we've all been craving... A game that feels real! Don't stop making these kinds of videos, I love them!
Also because I’m a total child 😝 & didn’t note it in my first comment. THIS SCENE = ASTARION CONFIRMED PRAISE KINK & NO I DO NOT ACCEPT ARGUMENTS AGAINST THIS.
That´s one of the more innocent kinks he has if you want to see it as a kink (interestingly, biting kink doesn´t seem to be one of them although he likes to tease Tav) :D I just think he likes being flattered, like most people.
Yeah I actually had to look into the praise kink thing because I was like - huh? Everyone likes to be complimented! I walked away pretty confused still from the article I read xD
The first video I ever made on BG3 was on this very topic, because I mistook the narrator's message when you finish early access to mean that I could turn into a vampire. xD I still REALLY want this to happen, and it's so perfect that we just happen to have a vampire in the party.. and who knows what will happen when we get to Cazador too! There are lots of options to make it happen.
NGL I like how it goes "off the rails" towards the end with him asking you to tell him he's beautiful. He's masking again. He's been vulnerable for a minute and now he's uncomfortable and regaining control by literally telling you what to say instead of asking you for something that would continue leaving him vulnerable (lookit how sensitive he is to the dangerous vs soft compliments beforehand)
i just had a wild thought.... you could use the tadpole, right? in theory, astarion could just,, use the tadpole and look throught Tav's eyes and BOOM! mystery solved lol... buuut im not sure how much control they really have over the tadpoles just yet
why it feels Astarion will be like Daeran from pathfinder, and maybe in other acts, Astarion will be so direct that he will grab Tev and kissed the hell out of him/her... kinda like Fenris.. what's up with me and brooding pointy ear men
I have been trying to romance Astarion and get all these wonderful scenes you show on your channel with him, but I guess I'm not so great at wooing him as I normally am in RPGs with romances. I'm very curious how you actually get all these different scenes. Is there a specific order you do quests or particular places you go to/camp in/around/after to get these to trigger?
i got this scene and since my morally good tav isn't highly approved by him i let her bully him just a little, so i got the aging comment but then pulled the 'im kidding you look great.' and he did his gay little spin. i'm happy
So they did take out the romance scene with Astarion patch 5? I romanced him for the first time in patch 5 and got the under construction scene, didn't know if it was a glitch on my pc or they took out that scene in the new patch?
So, the real romance scene has been gone since a hotfix in patch 3. I only ever got to see it once! Look on my channel for Astarion patch 3 romance to see it. There is a huge scene with a kiss and a glomp and it was AMAZING! I wonder if perhaps they didn't mean to release it and that's why they took it out again. I've been dying inside waiting for them to put it back though so that I could kiss that beautiful man again on new versions of Tav!
@@Mmogurl Yea I'm pretty sure I saw that romance scene on your channel a while back and was just doing a playthrough now to romance Astarion and was so disappointed when I saw the under construction scene. Didn't know if it was just an issue on my end, thank u for clarifying that and thank uu for your videos!💗
I think this scene would have been so much more powerful if Tav could use the tadpole to let Astarion see himself through her thoughts. I mean can you imagine?? That would be amazing.
Soo does anyone know what exactly triggers the new Astarion scenes? I really wanna see them in game, but just don't feel like doing a whole new playthrough :/
For me, they all just happened after completing events in game and then taking a long rest. The one scene I couldn't get to trigger was the scars scene, but from what I've read it can be glitchy on a tiefling. On top of that it usually happens after the camp celebration and I went with an evil game which probably made it worse bugwise. The other 3 scenes triggered with no issues though while raising his approval and doing all of his quests - ie dealing with gur.. finding the boar.. getting bit.. etc etc.
Did this interaction make it to the final game? I'm currently in act 2 and about 60 hours into the game.. I'm romancing Astarion, but haven't gotten this interaction! I absolutely love him to bits
I don't play this game so idk if this is possible, but it'd be cool if you could find him an artist and commission a portrait for him, or maybe paint on yourself if you have a high enough skill or something.
I must admit to a bit of jealousy- are you seriously telling us Astarion, that you just wake up looking like that?! That your hair just naturally falls perfectly in that slightly disheveled from a night of ardent passion sort of way?! Because I might hate you a little bit right now (in character as Tav)
Oh wow, are there any specific triggers for this scene to happen? I have over 210 hours in bg3 and end up romancing Astarion most of the time, and yet I've never seen this scene in game! I feel like there's a lot of scenes with Astarion that somehow haven't triggered for me :(
I couldn't say as I haven't had enough experience triggering it.. it just happened randomly for me before the camp celebration.. I was at exceptional though.
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Astarion is so cute when he’s vulnerable. The little spin is right on point
I loved the spin! xD I do the same thing whenever I buy a bunch of new clothes online and put on a fashion show for everyone lmao.
The best thing about it is that he doesn´t even know how cute he looks in these moments :D He certainly tries to manipulate Tav´s emotion to his advantage but he doesn´t pretend the vulnerability if his playthrough is to be believed.
It's so endearing.
I really love how vulnerable he was in this moment. I wish we could draw him and give that as a gift to him or something. You know as a homage to the fact that fans love drawing Astarion despite most of them prefer to romance Gale. 🤣
Yes! I mentioned this very thing in a reply to another comment! I need to paint him like one of my french girls xD
@@Mmogurl Keep going with these videos. You're doing gods work I swear. 🤣 Maybe Larian will give us even more Astarion content 🥺 I'm greedy, I NEED MOAR! 🤣
By the way you mentioned drawing yourself, do you have any art account we can follow?
@@Mmogurl you know, I'm willing to bet THAT would be music to Astarion's pointy ears X)
That’s exactly what I was thinking when I watched this, like if reflections don’t work then paintings/drawings should
People prefer romancing Gale?? I was happy to play Dark Urge so I could rip his hand off. Idk why, but he is very annoying to me.
God I was smiling and giggling like an idiot throughout all of this. I couldn’t bear to insult Astarion so thank you so much for choosing those. He’s so flustered and shocked! I also lost it when he flourished and spun around when you tell him you’re kidding. Nobody else can play him other than Neil Newbon 🥰 You’re making me wanna play this game all over again!
You should! :D I really enjoyed my patch 5 playthrough and was shocked to find so many new scenes. My hub had said there were a couple new ones, but I didn't expect them to be these full fledged dialogues!
@@Mmogurl Same here that’s why I was iffy on replaying it since I wasn’t so sure how much was added, but you’ve got me convinced! 😄
I kinda wonder if Astarion doesnt act serious because he's protecting himself. Like he dosent want to catch to many feelings incase something goes wrong. Hence his general flirty sarcastic attitude. I wouldnt be surprised if he is constantly on guard waiting for Cazador or one of his minions to come out of the shadows to get him. Or is just waiting for this whole tadpole event to go utterly sideways, kind of thing.
Well thats just how I read him.
No, I think you're right - he's definitely on guard, but it's funny because he's letting it down.. and then kind of retreating backwards again
That's EXACTLY what I thought when I first started talking to Astarion; haven't romanced anyone besides Shadowheart so far, but I've always liked Astarion and try to get along with him because he's fun.
He definitely comes across like someone of two masks: Aloof and Arrogant. But behind them seems to be a cracked vase trying to hide from anything more than a harsh breeze; I really hope they'll flesh out the more friendly route with him too so he can have a confidant in either way and that we get to learn more about him throughout the game
This is why I like Astarion, the events and dialogue that leads up to the romance really draws you in and helps you come closer to the character. They need to have this kind of stuff for the other romances!(especially Gale, in my opinion!😍)
I agree completely! My one complaint is that I really want to see them flesh out the other companions as well. Gale had a lot of scenes already though, so maybe they feel like he's good for now. But what about Laezel, Wyll, Shadowheart?! There's not nearly enough there.
I really want more Gale content and cute little scenes. Call me selfish but I am such a sucker for nerdy wizards
@@Danielezlka you're not alone lol
I just had a verry cute scene with gale teaching my ranger magic 😊 it almost made me doubt going after asterion
Astarion's still my favorite character, his sultry woe is me expression aside, they did well so far characterizing him with nuance.
I actually do think his wrap-up is fine. If someone isn't used to being genuinely intimate with someone else in a sincere/vulnerable way, re-creating a bit of distance by being standoffish or aloof right after helps.
Bit personal I suppose, but it's something I tend to do, so might just be me/just my perspective, but I think it makes sense here, intentional or not, because backstabby vampires.
That's a good point. I don't do that myself so I guess it's hard for me to see it in someone else. But, now that you've said it.. it makes perfect sense to me! The whole, 'I said something really deep and personal and now I'm gonna take a step back so I don't look quite so invested!' :D
I think it's interesting that Astarion is the most positive when Tav comments specifically on the features that were changed when he became a vampire (his eyes and mouth).
REALLY GOOD POINT! Hadn't even considered that, but those were exactly the things he complained about at the beginning!
I hope it gets implemented that you can use disguise self to turn into him and show him what he looks like.
This is a complete goldmine for fanfiction. To the word document! Away!
Haha - are you going to share it with me? xD
I think i saw how there a gith specific line saying "I see a 5'9 elf medium build" and it got me laughing
OMG lol! If that's a real thing, I need to try it some time xD
There's also a brutaly honest option - a Gith form of compliment - if you want to try it :D Poor Astarion is lacking words in that moment.
@@svoba4af what always gets me whenever you say or do something to Astarion that may come off as a personal insult (with the exception of making fun of his trauma) is that he doesn't react as negatively as on might expect, if at all. Really plays well this double edge Astarion has. He's skin deep full of himself, but used to being humiliated and disappointed to the core.
@@hekatebleble4800 Now you've made me sad but you've hit the nail on the head. That's why my characters likes to tease him but is never rude or agressive no matter what he says.
@@svoba4af I also think that being a little "hostile" in a lovingly teasing manner is the way. This is how you breach the wall of the "seducer-seduced" game. If you just plainly butter him up he dismisses it as either you already eating off his hands (which he doesn't respect, it makes you the looser of the game) or trying too hard to seduce him (the thought he cannot let stand, because he sees himself as a predator in this particular dynamic). If you refuse to play by the rules and move the game out of the chess board, he knows it's real. Remember that smile when you show a little aggression during the romance scene? This is him taking something real out of this relationship. It sounds bad, but he used to do this so many times for reasons that were not his own and with the explicit intention to not get attached that it'll take a friendly kick between the familiar dance moves, for this experienced dancer to notice you're not putting your arms around him because it's just a part of the choreography. And the deeper, darker layer to that is we always tend to mirror our previous relationships, with family, friends, etc. And it looks like, sadly the only lasting relationship that he has is the abusive one with Cazador. We can imagine that every potentially healthy one must have been doomed for obvious reasons, ending in tragedy and disappointment. Sweet tastes sour to him. Juvenile, fleeting. Not real. But more grounded if it stings a little. Real.
That's my favorite Astarion scene.
He enjoys this so much :3
Edit: I think he does the "now tell me I'm beautiful" thing, because the emotions are getting too intense for him - he covers it up with being silly. Just a guess oc :)
I got that feeling too :)
Yes @Yunfei81! Someone else mentioned that too and it's funny because I'm such a straightforward, wear my heart on my sleeve sort of person.. that I didn't comprehend the need to take a step back as a lot of other people do. I would just be like... "OK! Now tell me you love me and let's plan the wedding!" It's a good thing that's not an option for Tav to say, because I'd probably scare him off xD
@@Mmogurl strangely enough, I'm kinda both.
E.g. I can give honest compliments no problem, but I can't take them very well.
If it's too much emotion, I sometimes have to/want to leave the room for a bit - like during a movie or something. It's a very unpleasant feeling, worse if you know, it shouldn't be like that.
I think it's a matter of being used to it, because for me, it's gotten worse since lock-downs.
Astarion is a very well written character. 200 yrs of no control over his life + constant abuse. This shower of niceness must have been overwhelming.
It's no wonder he attracts all the women. Naturally we want to repair him xD
@@Yunfei81 it does work quiet opposite with guys(I mean who are straight) lots of them consider Astarion annoying, they just hate the character and always leave him in a camp(Yeap, I had to watch a lot of walkthroughs at least in my native language). And I can actually explain why do they hate him😅
@@Nirraart males aren't known for their nurturing nature, yes. But to be fair: Most people just don't want to bother. If you aren't extroverted and free of issues, they move on. No offense, of course, they have their reasons.
I had no idea you could sit beside him! 😳 So cute. 😍😍😍
I love Astarion spinning around like that it's my favorite. ☺
Yeah you can basically move Tav somewhere, and then take control of him and move beside her ^_^
@@MmogurlAwesome! 😊
I think this will end up being my all time favorite game, because it's the only one that makes it hard to resist a character that's "evil"... as much as I will always love Alistair and Cullen, Astarion seems like he has so many layers to him. The writers have done an amazing job making him so believable and irresistible.
Yes! I know exactly what you mean! Alistair was always special for me because he was "my first" romance in a game. When I played DAO for the first time, I played it like 4 years after it came out and had no idea what it was about. I was legit SHOCKED when he wanted to kiss me and had to shut my door and lock it when the sex scene happened lmao. I was always looking for the game guy that would replicate that feeling of it being so new and exciting.. or at least feel the same way.. but it just never really happened. I really like Cullen.. and I like Solas too.. Astarion was the first one to surprise me in the way Alistair did though. And he is much more complex, and I love that about his character! Man he's so sultry too! Like Alistair you could tease about being a virgin.. but Astarion on the other hand? Wooooo! *fans self*
Playing a neutral good and trying to be approved by an evil character is a pain in the *** This is my second attempt after NWN2 Bishop
@@egilsaga That's what I don't like about these games. I can't play my character the way I want AND gain the approval of the characters I want... My character is forced to act 'out of character' at some point which annoys me and breaks the whole immersion.
That's why I loved Pillars of Eternity. As far as I remember the characters commented on your choices I think but there was no "he liked/disliked all choices you made and leaves the group" stuff.
And the ending was the best (little spoiler warning I guess)
Before the last bossfight, they kinda tell you that they may not like your decisions but because you went through this journey together for who knows how long, they'll stick by you no matter what choices you make.
THAT's how it's supposed to be. In games like Baldurs Gate (1 & 2 because I haven't played 3) the friendship with your comrades seems like the kind of friendship you don't need or want. Like boy if you don't like the way I am you can f*ck off. It's been 3 years and you've fought through battles and experienced near death situations numerous times together but don't you dare choose the wrong colored shirt or he'll leave immidiately.
(Sorry for the rant on a year old post XD)
I don’t think he’s that “evil” from what I’ve seen idk
awee omg his little spin melted my heart
The spin was pretty great xD
@@Mmogurl hands down my favorite part for sure lol
I love how you broke down this scene in particular. It's always been one of my faves with him. And you definitely get the flirty/also serious vibes from him. And agree with the "I want to know what the world sees when it looks at me...what YOU see" line. It's so poignant and meaningful.
This is such a sweet interaction. Whether you're pursuing him as a friend or love interest, in this scene you can actually feel your bond with Astarion growing, where he's shifting away from using you as protection to being more comfortable/vulnerable with you. He's too adorable, ugh I can't take it. 😵
I think you consider the "romance build up" with Astarion to work better (compared as with the other companions) in the wrong way : he was used by Cazador to lure victims into his den, we can assume that flirting and tempting was his daily work. Thus I see all those "flirting" moments as what he feels more confortable with, what he does best, what he was taught to be for 200 years. The true honests moments he has are those when he is vulnerable/angry, not controling himself to be at his best, and those are the real build up for future relationship with him to me. :)
The previous "love scene" we had until now shows that well to me : Astarion was all playing a show "I was waiting for that moment since I set eyes on you". This feels like theater, and I do bellieve a more honest Astarion will appear later on another "love scene" that will not be a play, and I can't wait fro that moment. :3 (I absoluetly love him, but these flirting moments don't seem sincere, they seem like he would have acted the same with any other woman, you know, like he learned his lines ?).
Don't get me wrong though, he definitly likes Tav more than anyone else in the group at this point (that is depending on your choices of course), but I do not think his whole "soliloquy" here (sex scene) was what he really felt deep inside. Plus it takes place during the one night you can finally relax all together, and for most of the companions, it's more of a "let's enjoy this night and have fun" than a "let's build a long term relation ship".
La'zael only wants to **** you as a praize and is not thinking one second about feelings, Gale as his "I wanna know if I could still conquer a woman" moment (I mean, he obviously still feel for his godess, and I feel you're more of a charisma test/replacement, than a true lover for him at that moment), ShadowHeart building is quite logic to me (she slowly comes to trust you, so why not enjoy that night with the only person she trusts in this camp ?), and Wyll is... Erh, wyll ? (I never uses him, I've even never have found him on my first playthrough xD).
Playing on launch a year later here. You got it pretty much down packed for the most part. Near the end, the more honest, truer version of Astarion.. at least when he seems to be actually serious is more subdued from his normal very sarcastic, mean and flirty attitude. He speaks much softer and acts a bit more shy, which I guess is probably closer to who he really is deep down. His VA did a wonderful job switching it up and you can certainly feel the vunerablity in his voice. While, I do think he is putting on mostly an act to protect himself some of both versions of him can be true. All we know from his past life is that he was a magistrate that pissed off the gur people leading to an attack that may or may not have had Cazador invovled and may or may not have had Astarion sending Gur people to prisons for vampire feeds.
Which basically means Astarion was kind of an attorney in his previous life, someone meant to hold up the law. He was in the upper side of society, so you assume he had to be smart and have some kind of moral code if just at one point in his life. Not sure if he was corrupted by choice or force. I do kind of wish we could get a tiny bit more about his past life other than that though.
tbh, I think it does make sense that he doesnt tell you that you are beautiful back when you tell him he is beautiful since he only says that when you jokingly say that he isn't as 'handsome' as Gale. When you just straight up say that 'you're beautiful' it is indicative that he doesn't need to 'work' too much to have your approval in his eyes. He strikes me as a person who loves the thrill of the chase, so this is pretty consistent to his character imo.
i wish there was an option to ask gale to make a Mirror image for him ...
That's an EXCELLENT idea!
There's an option to use Illithid Wisdom that was in the game before
A mage can only make a mirror reflection of himself or herself if I'm not mistaken.
"Gale get over here and show Astarion how beautiful he is" hehe
@@svoba4af What about using Disguise Self to look like Astarion?
I’m surprised astarion hasn’t tried to hire a painter or someone with drawing talent so he can see his own face oooh that should be a quest
I wish we can get him a painting of what he looks like
Honestly I love how the compliment and reflected on someone else's eyes things are seperate. It allows a fresh sort of romance each time, rather than only one option giving a great answer. Kind of like how in Dragon Age where you can either ask your love interest to your tent, or you can be patient and they'll ask themselves. Patience definitely pays of there with Alistair, but with Zev it's about equal with that teasing dialogue when you ask him.
awwwwwwwww, you got to love how he transforms and how hard he fishes for those compliments, our little drama "queen".. I mean.. grandmother..hahah
lmfao - He was definitely fishing for compliments! That was one of my thoughts for a title for this video xD I was also thinking something along the lines of.. even hot vampires have low self esteem! But I didn't want to pick on him too much. I figure after 200 years it's not completely invalid to want to know how other people see you. :D
@@Mmogurl It makes sense what you are saying. To me, he does come across as somebody pretty vain, however, he doesn't strike me as somebody with low self-esteem. He just wants somebody to stroke his ego. Also, I think when he says he needs to sleep to catch up to competition, I think he means to the person you compared him with. Maybe I have read that wrong :).
I need a Lolth-sworn option to compliment his eyes
Right! He talks about his eyes turning red and I'm just like.. but they're soooo pretty! I love playing drow and having those beautiful reddish pinkish eyes
When you said that your Tav is a you that could express things in a way you normally cannot it really resonated with me. BG3 is the first rpg I’ve played solo and it just feels so good not having to behave within the confines of a what is expected in the real world. I can openly pursue a man (or even two! or a woman!) without being told I’m too bold for a woman or that I’m asking for too much. I can befriend all the animals without being called a crazy cat lady!
I've seen his soft side here. Its really important to him. I like his reaction, when i ask what color were his eyes before.
Of course, the scene ended with flirting, but I liked to see this part of his personality.
Totally agree! It was a great scene :D
the Lae'zel part threw me of guard omg xD
It threw me off guard too! I just walked over and she was like HEEY.
Can somebody explain to me how his hair is literally the most stylish and f'n PERFECT out of all the characters......and he can't even see his own reflection?!! I mean seriously...how does he do it?!!! Does this mean we're all just a bunch of talentless walking disasters or that he's some kind of hair styling genius? This has to be a plot hole....a most welcome one mind you.😏
vampire magic probably
I know literally nothing about BG lore but love your videos with Astarion! ♡♡♡
Can't wait for the full release of the game.
And that seductive tone at the end... woohoo lol I wish you could voice a character in BG, I really like your voice!)
That was just my Astarion voice! You should hear my actually trying to be seductive voice xDBut, my hub was talking to me the other day about the possibility of one day voicing a character in BG3 or another game and I was like OMG THAT WOULD BE AMAZING! Didn't even realize I wanted to do it until he said that, but I would be ALL OVER IT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ME IN YOUR AMAZING GAME, LARIAN! :) Now I need to do a video with my seductive voice - it can be like an audition! haha thanks again for the comment ^_^
I don't understand how people can hate Astarion. I scream whenever during all his dialogue and I'm a straight guy. Also love your analysis and your feelings on the dialogue!
yesssss X) !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Girl, I've been waiting for you to cover this scene since it's one of my favorites as well! You literally hit all the marks on my overall thoughts for it so I feel like I don't have much to add beyond thanking you for another lovely scene analysis ♡. I will say that it's definitely not just you. Larion has definitely taken their time with Astarion and the romance build with him more so I feel than others just in how much conversation, choices, and scenes that have been put into it. He's not what I'd call a slow-burn romance the way that Shadowheart is, but they both definitely make you put in work for it which I must say is well worth it for the pay off & for absolute gems like this scene.
They've done it with Gale as well but compared to Astarion & Shadowheart the weave scene & the after party moments with him feel extremely abrupt in comparison. Also, because you mentioned it I must say that Lae'zel's interest while definitely abrupt I feel is meant to be more blunt, generally speaking, and as a part of who and what she is rather than a lack of work. I truly (HOPE) believe there will be far more build up with her in the full release of the game where Tav will be able to become someone she sees as a worthy partner instead of a fun romp in the bedroll when she fancies it. A part of why I think that is 100% the fact that if she comes onto Tav at the party & is rejected, she has NO problem looking to other members of the party to satisfy her. For right now at least it's the furthest thing from personal as it could possibly be & I feel some major slow burning is gonna happen before we see whatever she may feel for Tav go beyond that, & rightfully so given the lack of build there has been.
& lastly without spoiling anything scene-specific I will say I hope you manage to get the scars scene soon so you can see it for yourself as aside from this one, it's one of my absolute favorite scenes between Astarion & Tav! It's not nearly as flirty as this scene gives you the option to be but it definitely matches it in intimacy & how very vulnerable Astarion can be when it comes to Tav & Tav alone (so far), there's a speck of dialogue that even hints at Astarion definitely caring about Tav quite a bit more than he's acted/verbalized so far beyond enjoying them as a companion, ally, and lover. I could be reading too far into it *straightens my shipper glasses*, but it's part of why I'm looking forward to you seeing it yourself & hearing your thoughts on it. All that aside though, I can definitively promise you it's well worth the work to make that scene pop!
As always this was fantastic, can't wait for the next one!
PS: First time I saw this scene I totally went for teasing him first then soothing his frazzled self with some genuine feedback because ngl I love the more banter/flirty mix dialogue options they give you options for with Astarion because I feel it just fits nicely & I'm a sucker for ships where the two aren't just lovers but are playmates & best friends as well which means some good natured roasting from time to time. BUT-------, I did save before this scene on my playthrough and I gotta say the straight sincere options rather than starting with teasing definitely lends a certain something to the scene that even with Astarion turning things playful doesn't dissipate the scene itself being... softer for it somehow. Ugh, SO DAMN GOOD, THIS SCENE WAS SO GOOD!!!!!
Uggggh I neeeed to see that scene. Like it's been bugging me but I haven't had a lot of extra time to do a single playthrough just for one scene that I'm not sure I can even get to trigger.. but I really need to see it, so I guess I'm gonna be playing again lmao.
Also, I totally agree about the playful side and I enjoy teasing him as well although my first instinct is always to be completely sappy LOL. Although I think I picked the shallow praise option on my first go-thru xD Now excuse me while I go start a new game!
@@Mmogurl it’s not like the shallow praise is a bad choice either! We were SPOILED with this scene ok 🙌 so many choices and all of them fantastic in their own way in their outcomes ❤️❤️❤️
But I know what you mean, I’ve seen a few scenes floating around in my recs portion of TH-cam for other party members that have had me like 👀 WHERE DID YOU GET THAT/HOW DID YOU GET THAT!!?
So the need is very real, you aren’t alone 👁👄👁. As far as getting the scene I may have some tips since I’ve gotten it on all 3 of my consecutive playthroughs but don’t take any of it as gospel, I may not know what I’m talking about 😬
1. I’ve seen it enough in my own playthroughs and those of others that it’s highly likely each time your Tav reaches a new tier of status with a party member they’re probably gonna have some new dialogue at camp. SO, do what you’d normally do to pop the major scenes with Astarion (the boar the bite the book the mirror the after party) but pay close attention to your status with him cause before I knew what probably triggered new dialogue with party members I missed SO MUCH 😭 by not paying attention to that at all.
2. It’s not definitive but I’ve yet to get that scene to pop without romancing Astarion and going through with the after party scene with him since it’s after that where Tav sees his bare back and the scars on it for the first time (a fact that literally makes me 🥺 cause you gotta think about how long they’ve been traveling together at this point & how careful he’s probably been to hide it from everyone till now).
3. Both times I’ve had the scene pop Astarion was at VERY HIGH for his approval status with Tav.
GOOD LUCK FRIEND!!!
I think Lae'zel jumping on you like you're a piece of meat is very much within her character. Gith aren't big on romance.
I just love your channel. Especially the comments below are such a precious thing, which I love to read everytime you post a vid. Keep up a good work!
Aww thank you! :) There are a lot of awesome people that come here to talk about sexy vampire men xD I enjoy going through the comments when I have the time! ^_^
His indignant little snorts! I didn't know it was possible to grunt in aristocrat, but Astarion delivers.
Funny. Astarion and laezel are the only ones I think make sense to flirt out of no where. Astarion sounds as if he flirts with most. Seems like he's heavily inspired by Tom elis in lucifer. Laezel also makes sense as she's an alien that has a very different definition of romance. They mate with the strong for the most part, makes sense that she sees the bold actions of the player and how they handled combat and instantly starts flirting
I sooo hope we can have the chance in the future to use the tadpol to show him his face and he could also get a sense of how much the player cares for him. Or... we sketch him like one of those french girls :p
I think he backs off at the end because fear of intimacy tbh. Cazador has taken everything nice in his life and twisted it into a horrible parody, he's probably worried this is all going to come crashing back down on him.
😍 More Astarion
Right?
@@Mmogurl I can't get enough of him ... 😭❤
🥰 wooing the vampire
It's definitely a bit of a role reversal, huh? xD
Bella walked so Tav could run
why am i so in love with him? he doesn't even exist god....
I would like to see an extra line along the lines of '... but I also see more than just your stunningly handsome looks...' if you have high charisma and are romancing him. That would be a fun branch too. I also like that he shows a bit of vulnerability.
Oh yes! This is a good idea!!! Like imagine if you could say something about his personality.. like the good things he does when he thinks nobody is looking. That would be amazing!
I have to say, I always go for the comparison choices at the end of this dialogue. It's just so much better than just the basic "you're beautiful" choice. I'd argue that he flirts with you more if you choose "not as good as gale" or whoever. That whole jokingly mopey "I thought we had something special" and the thing about there being competition? It's so much more blatant flirting to me with that option than if you just tell him he's beautiful.
Nothin like a spectacular Mmogurl video to brighten my day! ❤
Daww thank you! :)
The game isn't even out and I am obsessed with this man XD I will do anything to protect him! :P
Hmm Hmm ala Regular show
11:38 Are you trying to seduce us? lol 😆
Hahah! I couldn't tell if I sounded stupid or if I was channeling enough Astarion to sound hottish. I ended up just keeping it because I thought it was funny lmao
@@Mmogurl yeah I was going to ask if you were channeling Astarion 😆. If that was the your intention mission accomplished. 😉
Thanks for this! Congrats on the digital art venture!
Thank you! Although I spent so much time on it last night that I gave myself a headache. Taking a break today to relax the eyes a bit.
I really hope you can commission the artist you free from that cave hideout to paint him.
I actually mentioned this in another comment! It would be awesome!
This is my favorite scene. Complimenting him and then teasing him. Ie I like the way your hair curls behind your ears, the way your eyes crinkled when you smile. Even if he doesn't quite like it. Haha. Thats what you get when you seduce a bard a full picture.
I wonder if we can let him see himself through our eyes via the tadpole
That would be really cool too! Someone else managed having Gale summon a mirror image as well. But you know what would really work?! If someone painted a picture of him! It would be cool if you could commission that artist in the Zhentarim hideout to paint one for him ^_^
@@Mmogurl that would be cute or if our tav could paint him. Maybe a couples portrait?
It's a terribly cute scene, but they're not being very practical. There are, for one, drawings and portraits. Or, you know, ask Gale for a quick Simulacrum or Doppelganger spell. If he can recreate Mystra's face of of weave, surely he can conjure up some sort of solution here.
Me: Sees the title of this video
Also me moments later: Astarion, you damn well your one spicy number!
I feel like he makes that comment about him being beautifull, because Tav gives such honest answers. To me he feels embarrassed and playes it over with his flirty self.
I can't wait until this game is completed to buy it. He's so beautiful!
I don't know how you've managed to restrain yourself for all this time! :D
@@Mmogurl my bf wants to wait until the game is co op like divinity 2 so we can play together. I have to hold back until their local co op version comes out 🥺 I watch ur videos to enjoy his scenes!, I love your input.
Larian is definitely watching these. :) Keep up the good work.
I remember seeing a comment from an animator on one of my videos from awhile back, so I know at least some people who work there do see my stuff xD
Patch 6 is coming, a new class and maybe some new Astarion lines pretty please Larian? 😀
Yes I saw the update today! I'm torn now about waiting for another playthru.. it might make it easier to get the scars scene or it might make it worse.. They also might add stuff.. X_X I'll probably just do it..
@@Mmogurl I know, it almost becomes a game archaelogy with EA's doesn't it? More is always better from you I think, you do explain and open things up to thoughtful discussion so well. No antagonism or entrenchment, just appreication.
Wait….Was he testing to see if he could finally see himself due to the parasite?
Patch 6 coming so I would wait to do a new playthrough.
Oooo is it? I thought they might be waiting to drop any new updates until closer to Christmas.
@@Mmogurl Larian Twitter account says something "positively magical" is coming for EGX2021.
You know, this is the scene where his guards are down perhaps the most. Being Astarion, he is basically asking you to compliment him and is frustrated when you're not doing it but it's sweet nonetheless. Even if there is no cheerful ending for him, this is one of the momentě I'll choose to remember.
heck yeah - it's a great scene and I absolutely loved it! I'm convinced there will be a way to make it a happy ending though.. it damn well better be! Or I'll be complaining nonstop lmao
@@Mmogurl Also, I´m sad to hear you haven´t got the scar reading scene yet, I´m sure you´re going to love ti and will have the urge to give him a teddy bear :D As a tiefling or a warlock, you´ll be able to tell him even more about the scars. He can also tell you about the scars in the dialogue where he admits his dream was actually a nightmare about Cazador and you find the idea of a vampire poet funny, btw.
He prefers when you don’t call him beautiful though and ask him if all he wants is shallow praise
You're an amazing human. Thank you so much for making these videos. You clearly have a deep understanding about the character relationships and get as involved as I do. I love your in depth analysis. I think you're helping to make the game better because I think they do watch your videos! All of the changes you suggested I 100% felt the same way when I was doing my play through. Having the dialogue delivered in just the most fitting way really does make a difference, especially in term of replayability. I love going through the motions over and over with this character and especially with Astarion. I just can't get enough! For me it's dialogue options like this that turns an amazing game into a legendary game. Take Outer Worlds for instance. That game is truly brilliant. But this in depth of building relationships with the characters is what it was missing. All the options and how those options bring different options. Not only that but Neil Newbon literally recorded the same lines several times in different ways. And that's what make this game delicious. That's what we've all been craving... A game that feels real!
Don't stop making these kinds of videos, I love them!
2:13 to me, it seems like hes calling tav his world askfdnabwj is this after the romance scene from the party or before
I DIDN'T EVEN PUT THAT TOGETHER BUT YOU ARE RIGHT! :O
Awww! I'm seriously tempted to go back to blaying BG3 now) Astarion is so worth it.
Astarion just needs someone to do a sketch of how he looks.
I heard that there will be news about the release date of patch 6 soon. I hope they will open kiss scene.
UGH I HOPE SO! I have to look into their social media and see if there's any mention of it.
Also because I’m a total child 😝 & didn’t note it in my first comment. THIS SCENE = ASTARION CONFIRMED PRAISE KINK & NO I DO NOT ACCEPT ARGUMENTS AGAINST THIS.
That´s one of the more innocent kinks he has if you want to see it as a kink (interestingly, biting kink doesn´t seem to be one of them although he likes to tease Tav) :D I just think he likes being flattered, like most people.
Yeah I actually had to look into the praise kink thing because I was like - huh? Everyone likes to be complimented! I walked away pretty confused still from the article I read xD
The last option (instead of telling him he's beautiful) actually works a bit better with the mood of the scene and gets him to open up a bit more
This game needs Vampirism for player character asap.
Only thing that keeps me from getting this game
The first video I ever made on BG3 was on this very topic, because I mistook the narrator's message when you finish early access to mean that I could turn into a vampire. xD I still REALLY want this to happen, and it's so perfect that we just happen to have a vampire in the party.. and who knows what will happen when we get to Cazador too! There are lots of options to make it happen.
I had the same issue with lae'zel except she said she wants to taste my MOISTURE instead of sweat. like ????????????
NGL I like how it goes "off the rails" towards the end with him asking you to tell him he's beautiful. He's masking again. He's been vulnerable for a minute and now he's uncomfortable and regaining control by literally telling you what to say instead of asking you for something that would continue leaving him vulnerable (lookit how sensitive he is to the dangerous vs soft compliments beforehand)
i just had a wild thought.... you could use the tadpole, right? in theory, astarion could just,, use the tadpole and look throught Tav's eyes and BOOM! mystery solved lol... buuut im not sure how much control they really have over the tadpoles just yet
why it feels Astarion will be like Daeran from pathfinder, and maybe in other acts, Astarion will be so direct that he will grab Tev and kissed the hell out of him/her... kinda like Fenris.. what's up with me and brooding pointy ear men
Brooding, pointy-eared men are hot?! Nothing wrong with liking them!
@@Mmogurl XD, but I think we can turn Astarion into a vampire that might buy everything for Tev XD
It’s okay to admit we have a type lmao. The type is: Has Plenty of Character and Possibly a bit of a Brat
I have been trying to romance Astarion and get all these wonderful scenes you show on your channel with him, but I guess I'm not so great at wooing him as I normally am in RPGs with romances. I'm very curious how you actually get all these different scenes. Is there a specific order you do quests or particular places you go to/camp in/around/after to get these to trigger?
i got this scene and since my morally good tav isn't highly approved by him i let her bully him just a little, so i got the aging comment but then pulled the 'im kidding you look great.' and he did his gay little spin. i'm happy
Astarion is literally my friends other bestie......who I also had a crush on
But
Anyway
I love this
Dunno who I am here more for Mmogurl or astarian
So they did take out the romance scene with Astarion patch 5? I romanced him for the first time in patch 5 and got the under construction scene, didn't know if it was a glitch on my pc or they took out that scene in the new patch?
So, the real romance scene has been gone since a hotfix in patch 3. I only ever got to see it once! Look on my channel for Astarion patch 3 romance to see it. There is a huge scene with a kiss and a glomp and it was AMAZING! I wonder if perhaps they didn't mean to release it and that's why they took it out again. I've been dying inside waiting for them to put it back though so that I could kiss that beautiful man again on new versions of Tav!
@@Mmogurl Yea I'm pretty sure I saw that romance scene on your channel a while back and was just doing a playthrough now to romance Astarion and was so disappointed when I saw the under construction scene. Didn't know if it was just an issue on my end, thank u for clarifying that and thank uu for your videos!💗
I want this man in my life
1:56 ohh its so nice to see this now hahahah
I think this scene would have been so much more powerful if Tav could use the tadpole to let Astarion see himself through her thoughts. I mean can you imagine?? That would be amazing.
How do you get this scene? I've never seen it before!
Lmfao I'm going to buy this game only to talk with him XD
I want to be able to commission the artist to paint Astarion, so he can see what he looks like now
“ill be your mirror” OH HONEEEEYYYY he doesnt know how sexy he is 😩
Soo does anyone know what exactly triggers the new Astarion scenes? I really wanna see them in game, but just don't feel like doing a whole new playthrough :/
For me, they all just happened after completing events in game and then taking a long rest. The one scene I couldn't get to trigger was the scars scene, but from what I've read it can be glitchy on a tiefling. On top of that it usually happens after the camp celebration and I went with an evil game which probably made it worse bugwise. The other 3 scenes triggered with no issues though while raising his approval and doing all of his quests - ie dealing with gur.. finding the boar.. getting bit.. etc etc.
Did this interaction make it to the final game? I'm currently in act 2 and about 60 hours into the game.. I'm romancing Astarion, but haven't gotten this interaction! I absolutely love him to bits
Yes it did!
Yes! More content. Hot and heavy.
Now I just need that scars scene >_
Where did you get that real cool armor for astarian???
Would anyone know if this scene still in the final game + how to trigger it?
I don't play this game so idk if this is possible, but it'd be cool if you could find him an artist and commission a portrait for him, or maybe paint on yourself if you have a high enough skill or something.
i am suuuuch an astarion simp i will be so excited to romance him in full release ugH
does disguise self not give an extra option?
I must admit to a bit of jealousy- are you seriously telling us Astarion, that you just wake up looking like that?! That your hair just naturally falls perfectly in that slightly disheveled from a night of ardent passion sort of way?! Because I might hate you a little bit right now (in character as Tav)
Sigh… I love this game XD it makes me flustered, sheesh
I was just writing a comment about fanning myself, so yes, I understand completely! lol
Oh wow, are there any specific triggers for this scene to happen? I have over 210 hours in bg3 and end up romancing Astarion most of the time, and yet I've never seen this scene in game! I feel like there's a lot of scenes with Astarion that somehow haven't triggered for me :(
When does this trigger?
Hmm he remind me on Zevran :)
Ughh idk if i want to play for the combat rpg tactic or the dating anymore :o
Why not both?
@@Mmogurlyou are genuinely a freak of nature for putting commentary over uploads of video game rpg scenes
How do you get this scene? 🤔❤️
How do you get this scene to trigger?
I couldn't say as I haven't had enough experience triggering it.. it just happened randomly for me before the camp celebration.. I was at exceptional though.
@@Mmogurl Awe man thank you, I already did the celebration but I’ll start a new game just so I can get that scene lol 😂
Why is he so funny i promise he will be my best friend in this game i actually don't like any current romance option so far we will see down the line
Yeah I am just waiting so very impatiently for them to finish the game!
Do you have an insta?
Yeah it's in the description under the vid