Honestly those are some really cool activities that they do. Sadly those activities are only available for well funded troops and the more rural your location the less likely you get to participate and learn from roboticists and geneticists. Same thing applies to boy scouts.
Absolutely agree... I observed a girl scout meeting once at my niece's girl scout group... No robot building, nor do they get to go to obstacle courses. Just lots and lots of crafts... And every year, her grandma coughs up hundreds of dollars to buy candy, magazines, and cookies so her granddaughter can get patches.
Haven't seen a Boy Scout Council that doesn't provide outdoor activities, because the basic skills are available all around, including in their own communities.
Ain’t that the truth. Our troop focused more on cookies than anything else and I wanted to learn how to tie knots and go camping and hiking and do the things my brothers got to do.
@@LydJaGillers now is the perfect time to pay it forward and help youth of all genders Scout shoulder-to-shoulder. Get involved! Lots of great opportunities in the BSA.
Alls I know: as a kid, it seemed like my "Boy Scout" cohorts were having a LOT more fun. They were having exciting, challenging outdoor adventures, while we made "Sit Upons" and painted rocks in Girl Scouts.
Same. Just cookies, really boring arts and crafts, and maybe a trip once a year. Cookies were always terrible because they only give you like 4 cents a box, boy scouts always got more from selling pop corn or camp cards. And everyone seems to forget venture scouts was a thing long before boy scouts went full co-ed
In my experience, It just seemed like extra school work for my boy scout troop. They would give you projects and stuff. It just wasn't very fun. I wanted to be outside, the whole reason I started. I think it varies from troop to troop.
What happens in GS depends on your troop. I was outside frequently and my first experiences as a kid riding horses, learning archery, shooting air rifles, woodworking, and stargazing were with my Junior Girl Scout troop. I ALSO did arts and crafts, volunteer work, and held leadership positions in my troop. Every troop is different, and girls/parents can build/find the troop that fits them.
Okay, but Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts aren’t really equal. Boy Scouts has more opportunities overall. For Girl Scouts, opportunity depends on location. I was in Girl Scouts, and I live in a rural area. We did nothing but crafts and communication badges. My siblings are in Boy Scouts, and they have pocket knife training, and my sister is working on her axe throwing badge. Its so upsetting, because those were things I wanted to do in my childhood.
The problem is , the Girl Scouts will always be compared to the Boy Scouts . Why compare when you can simply infiltrate to the other side , then there is NO comparison .
I think that this has less to do with location and more to do with leadership and programming. IMHO, the GSUSA Guide books and Journey books are highly gender-stereotyped (especially at the Daisy, Brownie and Junior levels) and highly slanted toward Capitalist (especially at the Cadette, Senior and Ambassador levels) conceptions of success. It is possible as a troop leader (I am a former troop leader.) to go off-Journey, as it were, but you need to get buy-in from co-leaders and parents. Most of the time, it's easier to do the activities in the Journey books, which for the younger girls involve tea parties, baking, gardening, and sewing, and for the older girls involve comparison shopping, marketing, and budgeting. (I am not making this up. There are other activities, but the large majority of the activities have little to do with traditional scouting.) I am planning on restarting an overseas troop with a friend, and we'll probably focus on legacy activities, outdoor activities, STEAM projects and civic action. I am definitely NOT doing the Journey books again.
@@Merrypotter473 Sounds like some of the gender-stereotyped skills could be utilized in both the girl and boy scouts. The boys would benefit from learning the basic home skills that the girls are learning (like cooking, baking, and sewing) and the girls could benefit by learning outdoorsy skills.
Yep. Sold quite a few boxes myself. Stayed involved for almost 3 years. We only had one outing in all that time. Basically, we did lame arts and crafts every meeting. Our Scout Leader was a mess. She berated girls who's parents could not afford to donate large amounts to the troop.
Every girl scouts I knew did tons of find raising to go to places like Disney Land or girl scout camp which had horse back riding, archery, and everything boy scout camp had except more and they didn't waste time teaching useless survival skills. Plus many hated it because the richest parents kids were always mean to everyone. One time a parent bought tons of her own kids cookies so she would be the top seller. Another paid for a website and hired someone to run the site and deliver the cookies.
I'm a female and was both a cub scout and a girl scout all the way back in the later 80s/early 90s. My dad was the cub scout leader of my brother's troop, and with a name like Bobbie, there weren't any questions from Administration. When I got older, I had to switch to girl scouts. My brother went on to become an Eagle Scout, and I can personally attest to Boy Scouts having far greater value. Boy scouts have camping, survival, knife skills, rope tying, etc. I kid you not that when I switched to girl scouts, my troop was working on arts and crafts, makeup and hair badges. Seriously?! I've become a successful professional without once using any of the things my girl scout troop "taught". If I could do it all over again, I would have switched to Explorer Scouts instead!
I wish I had known about the Explorers when I was younger. My dad was a scout and taught me fishing, camping, and how to build a fire (and then some). I was always sad that I couldn't join the boy scouts because of my genger even though I was better than the eagle scouts at archery. Now that I have a son, though, and no father for him, I am looking forward to getting him involved with other boys so that he has that male comradery that he can't get at home.. I honestly think girl scouts just needs to step up their game. I don't think I would mind the segregation as much if we did the same kind of cool stuff the boy scouts do
I learned most of that stuff at camp. in the 70's our camp was quite primitive. cooked over campfires. hiking in the swamp. had outhouses that we had to clean every day. and of course tents. later I was a counselor at the same camp.
Why do you have to choose between things like Arts, Crafts and make up. do you not think that those things are not of value because they are. Yes other things should be taught like computer skills, finances, and self defense as well but i had many sleep over with my daughter and her friends and you would be surprise how many girls don't know how to comb there own hair, bake, and know how to do wear make up correctly. The arts and craft came in hand because it was teaching them sharing and caring, when some couldn't do a craft we help them. That something today's women forget "helping" not back stabbing or bitting.
@@meta37 I mean thats all fine but I had a similar experience. I joined girl scouts because I saw all the cool outdoors stuff they do. I have zero interest in anything like hair and makeup and scrapbooking (I kid you not we did that as kids) but that was almost always the focus of the meetings. I could count on one hand how many times we did woodworking, survival, etc. Point is it should have been more even and not so lop sided in types of activities
Gold award recipient here! But also a gold award recipient in the original BSA co-ed teen program called Venture Crew. Love GSA but also love Venturing for the fact that it was more outdoor and traditional boy scout things. I was even one of the first female youth participants at the 2013 national boy scout jamboree in WV through my NJ venture crew. It was effin awesome.
That is amazing! I am part of girl scouts and have been for 10 years. I am currently working on my gold award. I am also a member of a venture crew, and a part of the Inaugural Class of Female Eagle Scouts. I think that girl scouts is more about girl empowerment, and the BSA is much more about outdoor skills and leadership. That is really cool that you were one of the first female youth participant at the national jamboree in 2013!
@@camillejorenby5563 yes, I completely agree with you! I started as a Daisy in kindergarten, but literally went through 8 different troops before aging out. I had to switch because they would dissolve as other girls my age would get bored or go into sports or other school extracurriculars. So my last troop was the part that allowed me to expand. We as a troop went to the local Boy Scout Klondike Derby where each of the 60 Boy Scout troops would compete and tent camp around the frozen lake in the middle of our district in the middle of winter. It would involve out performing the other troops from the skills within the Boy Scout manual and handbook. My last Girl Scout-age out- troop leader was also a co-leader for her son's troop and that troop would always brag that they could out do our Girl Scout troop in any subject outdoors. So we took up the BSA books and creamed all 60+ troops by huge margins 6 years in a row using their own handbook against them. We eventually joined up together with the two troops that place 2nd and 3rd every year and created our Venture Crew so that we could continue competing against other troops after we had all aged out at 18, but were still considered "youth " and therefore qualified as being allowed to compete because the age-out for Venturing was 21. We all did other community organizations as well. So several of us were leaders of our local 4-H program and did other community work in general. I was really chronically Ill because of post viral issues from mono and those things truly kept me alive and willing to fight back against dysautonomia and gastroparesis, and I wouldnt change a thing about my childhood involvement in scouting and 4-H. They literally saved my life.
This was not my girl scout experience...We met at a church and mostly learned Girl Scout Songs, made dumb friendship bracelets, sold cookies, and did basic crafts like sewing and art. We never went anywhere else...Not bad if that's what you want. But, I wanted archery and bad*ss stuff.
Like Boy Scouts, most of it is left up to the leaders. I had one boy in scouts. They colored and did worksheets. It was all about the popcorn. My daughter was a Girl Scout. They got badges for bee keeping, fire building, horseback riding, hiking, CPR and first aid, cooking, and gardening among other things. We are in a rural area, but her scouting experience was WAY better than my son's.
@@lynnhawkins952 - WOW. It's crazy how differently each Boy Scout and Girl Scout troop were taught (or not taught, which seems to be the majority of many cases) useful skills. It really does depend on where you are and who teaches you!
There have been "mixed" scouts in Europe for decades now. I'm a scout myself for 24 years now and we have always been a mixed group. Everyone gets along fine so I don't quite get why this is a problem in America.
I remember my Girl Scout troop was very mean. I joined in 4th grade after moving schools and the other girls had been in it since Kindergarten or 1st grade. They treated me like an outsider and constantly bullied me. I left after a year because I couldn't stand it. I am sure Girl Scouts can be great but not all troops promote the same values or treat people equally.
@@oracleofdelphi4533 Why? Are women and non-Christians not members of the Young Mens Christian Association? That's been policy for over a century. Don't get hung up on "boy". The Scouts don't.
I don't think the boy scouts or the girl scouts need to change at all, I think a new program should be put in place that takes everyone. Personally I don't think the traditional boy/girl scouts has a future, nor do they have a monopoly on youth programs.
Too bad our local ones are absolute scam artists. They target the poorest schools, sign them up for "free" with their Healthcare and never contact them with a troop.
I don't know about that.... Every Eagle Scout I have met, no matter the age is heads and tails ahead in the Country of No Scouts. They are simply better humans due to years of exposure to leadership camps and outdoor activities.
for me as an non US citizen, its weird to hear that they cant scout together with boys and that they are ashamed to do the same things or being afraid of it... what a weird system.
@@Hansgame Well, they can now. There's still the total separation between the two organizations, they have to join the BSA (Boy Scouts of America) to do it. Which, yeah, is a weird system but that's American capitalism for you.
I agree there’s a lot more fun stuff to do when you’re younger. But once you get to an older age like me there’s like nothing to do in Girl Scouts to earn patches that’s interesting to do anymore.
The troops I know do mostly camping and charity work. There are several badges for self defense and knowing how to build a fire or set up camp ect ect. It just depends on the troop leader.
I was a girl guide patrol leader (12 - 16 year olds) my younger sister was a brownie. I am over 60 now so totally confused as to whether girl scouts are the same as my girl guide. No, we didn't wear sashes. We had a blue uniform with a leather belt around our waists. A whistle and pocket knife attached to it. We sewed our badges onto right arms of out uniforms. We didn't sell cookies. We went camping in very rural areas and learned survival and medical skills.
Because Girl scouts corporate would lose massively on cookie sales. They've already had to make concessions. Those $4 a box cookies have shrunk in size, added literal wax as filler save money and only give about 35 cents a box towards troop finances. You're better off donating $1. Their membership has been declining due to poor experiences from poor oversight and expecting moms to be troop leaders while taking financialresponsibility for the entire troop, especially with more working moms. They send home recruitment flyers at poor schools so their moms will sign them up for "free" knowing Medicaid health programs will pay the fees to get poor kids something better. They then never contact them with a troop.
The basic line I've heard relates to the same reason public schools have girl only math and science classes. Girls do better in them. Girls between the ages of 10 and 17 in girl only learning and social environments get better grades, higher test scores, and are evaluated by their teachers as doing better than in co-ed environments, the girls also self report being happier and more confident, but that's self reporting and subject to it's limitations.
My mom was a girl scout leader and I support their charter. As a boy scout I can tell you in the 70s the girl scouts did amazing and fun things...so much so I quit boy scouts and just went to the gs meetings with my mom...we got to have campfires and make pancakes and smores while the boy scouts were making a Santa out of readers digest...
I still wish (30 years later) we had lived in an area with a Girl Scout troop when I was of that age. Looks so much fun. Never understood why we were so void of girl scouts to join in the middle of the biggest city in the state but my mom tried to find one and couldn't. At least I got to spend every summer in camp in the wilderness (apparently less expensive than day care at the time). Best times of my childhood. I can't think of a single reason I would want to join the boy scouts. They have a pretty horrid reputation, probably harder for a girl to make friends, and they don't have cookies.
Things might have changed now, but when I was a kid and in Boy Scouts, I knew Girl Scouts that wished they were in Boy Scouts because we actually did "cool/fun" stuff. Boy Scouts is actually moderately rigorous. For example a few of the requirements for the Boy Scout cycling merit badge are 50 mile bike ride and knowledge of how to repair your bicycle. It is almost like school. Where merit badges are courses and some are required while others are electives. Eagle Scout projects are like senior capstone projects and are typically moderately large community improvement projects such as: refurbishing a community playground or installing bus benches throughout the city for the elderly and disabled. This is why being an Eagle Scout means something (or least used to). From what I recall, Girl Scouts was definitely not like this.
0:35 Its just self-interest by the Girl Scouts. Though they do have a more "modern" and up-to-date program, boy scouts has a more consistent and prestigious awards program.
I did Boy Scouts growing up. My wife and my sister did Girl Scouts. Both of them were bored with the "crafts and cookies" bit and badges that were great if you one day wanted to run a business, particularly if it was art or fashion related, but less fun if you wanted to shoot, fish, backpack, or any of the more adventurous outdoor activities. My sister jumped ship and joined the BSA Explorers when she got old enough, even worked at a BSA camp for a few years. When the news first broke about BSA opening up to girls my wife and I looked up a list of the BSA merit badges a scout could earn, based on his (and now her) interests. My wife actually got angry when she saw what the boys had been offered versus what she had to choose from in the GS.
I was in Brownie's for a couple years, but we didn't do much except make crafts in a school project area. I do remember loving camp, though. No electricity, our cabins were A-frames with only two walls, doing hiking and swimming, it was fun and very team building.
Boyscout here. Eagle in fact. I have no problem with co-ed scouting programs. BUT THEY ALREADY EXISTED. so yeah, the lawsuit that resulted in girls being in girlscouts was irreparably damaging to boyscouts and girlscouts alike, as well as sea scouts and venture scouts and a multitude of others that were shut down as a result.
This is interesting because when I was a teen over 20+ years in NY; I was part of the first girl scout, boy scout troop where we could earn both badges. One of the girls in our troop earned Eagle scout we went camping with the boys it was great. I even got some boy scout badges myself
As a former Boy Scout, a looooong time ago, and a lifelong progressive, this is not the right decision by the Boy Scouts. Girls deserve to be girls, and boys deserve to be boys, without throwing in a whole lotta confusion. The original intent for both organizations was and is valid.
I've been a Girl Scout for years, and I've never noticed any religious stuff. Even the graces that we say before meals at camp are specifically non-religious, thanking the Earth instead of a deity.
This was done in my country ages ago. I hated girl scouts but loved scouts. The girls were evil to be around but the boys were cool and interesting and had better activities.
I offered girl scouts a free canoe ride and a stay in my boy scout tent ( kind of a package deal ) and they always came up with excuses why they couldn't come. I even pointed out that I had a badge in rope knot tying. So they had their chances!
I have a hunch that Desi's next stint is going to be a visit with the Spelling Bee contestants. Now here's one of the last American Sacred Cows that has not been mocked. Go Desi!
The only thing I wanted when I was a kid was to actually learn outdoor camping and survival skills. When I was a pup they wouldn't let kids do that if they were assigned female. So girl scouts/boy scouts whatever. Will they show you how to build a camp?
This video still doesn't address what's wrong with boy scouts allowing girls in... the girl scout CEO only cares about how much money she loses if girls have options🤦🏽♂️ don't remember anyone saying girl scouts should be canceled
I was a boyscout the best parts of being one were the Camping trips, the communtiy service projects, and the pool parties. The cons were that most of my troop were aholes who slacked off and didn't do much, the pinewood derbys where most of the kids just had their dads or older brothers make their cars, and my troop was connected to the LDS church so we had to learn about Joseph Smith and the Nephites and Lamenites which is still hilarious to me. Overall I personally think that girls probably learn alot more actual useful things in life in the girl scouts.
@@raistlinmajere7149 I know a Venturer who joined the Salvation Army because they chartered her Venturing Crew. It happens. We have a number of agnostics/nonadherents in our Troop and Crew, and we encourage them to develop their faith as positively as we can. Many people don't realize BSA is an interfaith organization.
I know that a lot of people that know about the gold star award consider it pretty much the equal of Eagle since it has similar requirements, but it just isn’t super well known.
Back in the 70s, I was total by the GS troop leader that they didn't have room for me and I couldn't join. I was brokenhearted. I became a CEO of a major northeastern nonprofit organization without them. Boom
I was a Blue Bird, which in the Camp Fire Girls (now simply Camp Fire, as boys are allowed membership) is equivalent to the GSA's rank of Brownie. It would've been okay had our adult leader not shown favoritism to her one daughter.
I work for Girl Scouts in Philanthropy, and we cover 29 counties in two states. We just launched a Mobile STEM van, taking stem experiments out to the rural communities. We tap into local events, to give all kids an opportunity to experience the adventure of a stem activity. We also provide funding for underserved girls to participate at no charge to their family, including uniforms, patches, and camps. We look for community partners and grant opportunities to provide these services. This is how we really operate.
I was a girl scout for 18 years. My south Carolina town ran 3 news articles on the one boy from my high school who earned his eagle and zero on the three girls who earned their gold. If you can't beat em join em. This is how the world operates.
I remember throwing up at the Boy Scout initiation when I was a kid and needing to leave before it was finished; for whatever reason I didn't care to go back Nothing of value was lost.
I like the scouts, done it for my entire youth. But i never pondered the idea of two separate gender segregated organizations, until I came to USA. What a strange thing to do.
When she smoothly takes her microphone... "almost" 😂😂😂
That one had me cackling too 🤣.
She has totally embodied the 'Be prepared' motto.
Not sure I'd want Desi near my kids after Trevor Noah made her watch so much Fox News.
It's not cruel and unusual punishment if she's paid to suffer through it.
CNN and msnbc are the reliable news source right?
@@UserRobot215 -- None of the Main Stream Media news sources are great, but some are definitely worse than others.
@@UserRobot215 Yes, they are. The news from CNN and MSNBC is a reliable news source.
@@UserRobot215 For the most part, yes. But all televised news is entertainment first and news second. Stick to NPR and actual newspapers.
Honestly those are some really cool activities that they do. Sadly those activities are only available for well funded troops and the more rural your location the less likely you get to participate and learn from roboticists and geneticists. Same thing applies to boy scouts.
True!
Absolutely agree... I observed a girl scout meeting once at my niece's girl scout group... No robot building, nor do they get to go to obstacle courses. Just lots and lots of crafts...
And every year, her grandma coughs up hundreds of dollars to buy candy, magazines, and cookies so her granddaughter can get patches.
Haven't seen a Boy Scout Council that doesn't provide outdoor activities, because the basic skills are available all around, including in their own communities.
Ain’t that the truth. Our troop focused more on cookies than anything else and I wanted to learn how to tie knots and go camping and hiking and do the things my brothers got to do.
@@LydJaGillers now is the perfect time to pay it forward and help youth of all genders Scout shoulder-to-shoulder. Get involved! Lots of great opportunities in the BSA.
They were like so uncomfortable with her being present it's the awkwardness that makes it hilarious
It's called Discrimination.
Alls I know: as a kid, it seemed like my "Boy Scout" cohorts were having a LOT more fun. They were having exciting, challenging outdoor adventures, while we made "Sit Upons" and painted rocks in Girl Scouts.
That is my memory as well. Arts & Crafts and selling cookies. I wanted to be outside :(
Same. Just cookies, really boring arts and crafts, and maybe a trip once a year. Cookies were always terrible because they only give you like 4 cents a box, boy scouts always got more from selling pop corn or camp cards. And everyone seems to forget venture scouts was a thing long before boy scouts went full co-ed
In my experience, It just seemed like extra school work for my boy scout troop. They would give you projects and stuff. It just wasn't very fun. I wanted to be outside, the whole reason I started. I think it varies from troop to troop.
I forgot about the sit upons...lol.
What happens in GS depends on your troop. I was outside frequently and my first experiences as a kid riding horses, learning archery, shooting air rifles, woodworking, and stargazing were with my Junior Girl Scout troop. I ALSO did arts and crafts, volunteer work, and held leadership positions in my troop. Every troop is different, and girls/parents can build/find the troop that fits them.
I never tire of the Desi Lydic skits.
if Im feeling down her videos help lighten my mood
Okay, but Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts aren’t really equal. Boy Scouts has more opportunities overall. For Girl Scouts, opportunity depends on location. I was in Girl Scouts, and I live in a rural area. We did nothing but crafts and communication badges. My siblings are in Boy Scouts, and they have pocket knife training, and my sister is working on her axe throwing badge. Its so upsetting, because those were things I wanted to do in my childhood.
Y'all are hypocrites.
The problem is , the Girl Scouts will always be compared to the Boy Scouts .
Why compare when you can simply infiltrate to the other side , then there is NO comparison .
@@stephenanderson7686 How so?
I think that this has less to do with location and more to do with leadership and programming. IMHO, the GSUSA Guide books and Journey books are highly gender-stereotyped (especially at the Daisy, Brownie and Junior levels) and highly slanted toward Capitalist (especially at the Cadette, Senior and Ambassador levels) conceptions of success. It is possible as a troop leader (I am a former troop leader.) to go off-Journey, as it were, but you need to get buy-in from co-leaders and parents. Most of the time, it's easier to do the activities in the Journey books, which for the younger girls involve tea parties, baking, gardening, and sewing, and for the older girls involve comparison shopping, marketing, and budgeting. (I am not making this up. There are other activities, but the large majority of the activities have little to do with traditional scouting.) I am planning on restarting an overseas troop with a friend, and we'll probably focus on legacy activities, outdoor activities, STEAM projects and civic action. I am definitely NOT doing the Journey books again.
@@Merrypotter473 Sounds like some of the gender-stereotyped skills could be utilized in both the girl and boy scouts. The boys would benefit from learning the basic home skills that the girls are learning (like cooking, baking, and sewing) and the girls could benefit by learning outdoorsy skills.
from what i heard is that unless your girl scout troop has a few rich kids in it you are basically just cookie salesmen
You only get like 4 cents every box you sell to go for troop trips and stuff... So yeah basically
Yep. Sold quite a few boxes myself. Stayed involved for almost 3 years. We only had one outing in all that time. Basically, we did lame arts and crafts every meeting. Our Scout Leader was a mess. She berated girls who's parents could not afford to donate large amounts to the troop.
thats pretty sad to read tbh
Every girl scouts I knew did tons of find raising to go to places like Disney Land or girl scout camp which had horse back riding, archery, and everything boy scout camp had except more and they didn't waste time teaching useless survival skills.
Plus many hated it because the richest parents kids were always mean to everyone. One time a parent bought tons of her own kids cookies so she would be the top seller. Another paid for a website and hired someone to run the site and deliver the cookies.
@@theFLCLguy Sounds just like Troop Beverly Hills
She cracks me up so much. Kegel scouts
I'm a female and was both a cub scout and a girl scout all the way back in the later 80s/early 90s. My dad was the cub scout leader of my brother's troop, and with a name like Bobbie, there weren't any questions from Administration. When I got older, I had to switch to girl scouts. My brother went on to become an Eagle Scout, and I can personally attest to Boy Scouts having far greater value. Boy scouts have camping, survival, knife skills, rope tying, etc. I kid you not that when I switched to girl scouts, my troop was working on arts and crafts, makeup and hair badges. Seriously?! I've become a successful professional without once using any of the things my girl scout troop "taught". If I could do it all over again, I would have switched to Explorer Scouts instead!
I wish I had known about the Explorers when I was younger. My dad was a scout and taught me fishing, camping, and how to build a fire (and then some). I was always sad that I couldn't join the boy scouts because of my genger even though I was better than the eagle scouts at archery. Now that I have a son, though, and no father for him, I am looking forward to getting him involved with other boys so that he has that male comradery that he can't get at home.. I honestly think girl scouts just needs to step up their game. I don't think I would mind the segregation as much if we did the same kind of cool stuff the boy scouts do
I learned most of that stuff at camp. in the 70's our camp was quite primitive. cooked over campfires. hiking in the swamp. had outhouses that we had to clean every day. and of course tents. later I was a counselor at the same camp.
Why do you have to choose between things like Arts, Crafts and make up. do you not think that those things are not of value because they are. Yes other things should be taught like computer skills, finances, and self defense as well but i had many sleep over with my daughter and her friends and you would be surprise how many girls don't know how to comb there own hair, bake, and know how to do wear make up correctly. The arts and craft came in hand because it was teaching them sharing and caring, when some couldn't do a craft we help them. That something today's women forget "helping" not back stabbing or bitting.
@@meta37 I mean thats all fine but I had a similar experience. I joined girl scouts because I saw all the cool outdoors stuff they do. I have zero interest in anything like hair and makeup and scrapbooking (I kid you not we did that as kids) but that was almost always the focus of the meetings. I could count on one hand how many times we did woodworking, survival, etc. Point is it should have been more even and not so lop sided in types of activities
@@meta37 No offense, but you make girl scouts sound like girls indoctrination.
Don't get me wrong, boy scouts sounds the same to me.
Gold award recipient here! But also a gold award recipient in the original BSA co-ed teen program called Venture Crew. Love GSA but also love Venturing for the fact that it was more outdoor and traditional boy scout things. I was even one of the first female youth participants at the 2013 national boy scout jamboree in WV through my NJ venture crew. It was effin awesome.
That is amazing! I am part of girl scouts and have been for 10 years. I am currently working on my gold award. I am also a member of a venture crew, and a part of the Inaugural Class of Female Eagle Scouts. I think that girl scouts is more about girl empowerment, and the BSA is much more about outdoor skills and leadership. That is really cool that you were one of the first female youth participant at the national jamboree in 2013!
@@camillejorenby5563 yes, I completely agree with you! I started as a Daisy in kindergarten, but literally went through 8 different troops before aging out. I had to switch because they would dissolve as other girls my age would get bored or go into sports or other school extracurriculars. So my last troop was the part that allowed me to expand.
We as a troop went to the local Boy Scout Klondike Derby where each of the 60 Boy Scout troops would compete and tent camp around the frozen lake in the middle of our district in the middle of winter. It would involve out performing the other troops from the skills within the Boy Scout manual and handbook.
My last Girl Scout-age out- troop leader was also a co-leader for her son's troop and that troop would always brag that they could out do our Girl Scout troop in any subject outdoors. So we took up the BSA books and creamed all 60+ troops by huge margins 6 years in a row using their own handbook against them.
We eventually joined up together with the two troops that place 2nd and 3rd every year and created our Venture Crew so that we could continue competing against other troops after we had all aged out at 18, but were still considered "youth " and therefore qualified as being allowed to compete because the age-out for Venturing was 21.
We all did other community organizations as well. So several of us were leaders of our local 4-H program and did other community work in general.
I was really chronically Ill because of post viral issues from mono and those things truly kept me alive and willing to fight back against dysautonomia and gastroparesis, and I wouldnt change a thing about my childhood involvement in scouting and 4-H. They literally saved my life.
Desi's delivery is just golden. I love how many amazing people have come through The Daily Show.
This was not my girl scout experience...We met at a church and mostly learned Girl Scout Songs, made dumb friendship bracelets, sold cookies, and did basic crafts like sewing and art. We never went anywhere else...Not bad if that's what you want. But, I wanted archery and bad*ss stuff.
Totally understand. Sewing isn't bad, though. At least it's something you can still transfer to life right now.
Like Boy Scouts, most of it is left up to the leaders. I had one boy in scouts. They colored and did worksheets. It was all about the popcorn. My daughter was a Girl Scout. They got badges for bee keeping, fire building, horseback riding, hiking, CPR and first aid, cooking, and gardening among other things. We are in a rural area, but her scouting experience was WAY better than my son's.
@@lynnhawkins952 - WOW. It's crazy how differently each Boy Scout and Girl Scout troop were taught (or not taught, which seems to be the majority of many cases) useful skills. It really does depend on where you are and who teaches you!
There have been "mixed" scouts in Europe for decades now. I'm a scout myself for 24 years now and we have always been a mixed group. Everyone gets along fine so I don't quite get why this is a problem in America.
Cuz its America.
It seems that they like segregation there...
There are a lot of confusing problems in America and this is coming from someone who lives in a third world country
@@sarafernandes4735 They do not have genuine problems so they have to make up their own problems
I remember my Girl Scout troop was very mean. I joined in 4th grade after moving schools and the other girls had been in it since Kindergarten or 1st grade. They treated me like an outsider and constantly bullied me. I left after a year because I couldn't stand it. I am sure Girl Scouts can be great but not all troops promote the same values or treat people equally.
LOL..the "inclusiveness" in Boy Scouts could be the result of deep financial problems.
except the Boy Scouts have had female youth in Explorers since 1971 and Venturers since 1997... so yeah, no.
@@mascotnet What next? Allowing boys in the girl scouts? That's madness I tell you. Complete and utter madness.
@@oracleofdelphi4533 Why? Are women and non-Christians not members of the Young Mens Christian Association? That's been policy for over a century. Don't get hung up on "boy". The Scouts don't.
Maybe they were hoping with a bunch of girls, the leaders would keep their hands off the boys.
@@dawn7685 Omfg 🤣🤣💀... I did not expect that to be a comment .. Touche
I don't think the boy scouts or the girl scouts need to change at all, I think a new program should be put in place that takes everyone. Personally I don't think the traditional boy/girl scouts has a future, nor do they have a monopoly on youth programs.
Too bad our local ones are absolute scam artists.
They target the poorest schools, sign them up for "free" with their Healthcare and never contact them with a troop.
I don't know about that....
Every Eagle Scout I have met, no matter the age is heads and tails ahead in the Country of No Scouts.
They are simply better humans due to years of exposure to leadership camps and outdoor activities.
@@FlameOnTheBeat I enjoyed venture scouts so much more then girl scouts. They really should have spent more promoting the program
for me as an non US citizen, its weird to hear that they cant scout together with boys and that they are ashamed to do the same things or being afraid of it... what a weird system.
@@Hansgame Well, they can now. There's still the total separation between the two organizations, they have to join the BSA (Boy Scouts of America) to do it. Which, yeah, is a weird system but that's American capitalism for you.
When I was in Girl Scouts we didn't anything cool! We did crafts and cookies. It was lame. They should be teaching self defense, survival, etc.
I agree there’s a lot more fun stuff to do when you’re younger. But once you get to an older age like me there’s like nothing to do in Girl Scouts to earn patches that’s interesting to do anymore.
For real, that’s why I joined Girl Scouts when I was younger. I wanted outdoorsy skills. Instead I got knitting.
What you didn't get the vajazzle badge? So lame
The troops I know do mostly camping and charity work. There are several badges for self defense and knowing how to build a fire or set up camp ect ect. It just depends on the troop leader.
@@temme9846 At least you got knitting. We got making caterpillars out of clothespins and sewing paper with yarn and plastic needles.
Desi is absolutely hysterical, I love her clips! Never fails to make me laugh!
The pandemic has messed up Desi's sanity😂😂😂😂
NO! It’s the ENDLESS hours of watching Fox News that did it.
I was a girl guide patrol leader (12 - 16 year olds) my younger sister was a brownie. I am over 60 now so totally confused as to whether girl scouts are the same as my girl guide. No, we didn't wear sashes. We had a blue uniform with a leather belt around our waists. A whistle and pocket knife attached to it. We sewed our badges onto right arms of out uniforms. We didn't sell cookies. We went camping in very rural areas and learned survival and medical skills.
@Kennedy Thedford thanks.
That's great but I wanted to know more about why girls shouldn't join boys scouts? Kind of cut the conversation off real early
Because Girl scouts corporate would lose massively on cookie sales. They've already had to make concessions. Those $4 a box cookies have shrunk in size, added literal wax as filler save money and only give about 35 cents a box towards troop finances. You're better off donating $1.
Their membership has been declining due to poor experiences from poor oversight and expecting moms to be troop leaders while taking financialresponsibility for the entire troop, especially with more working moms.
They send home recruitment flyers at poor schools so their moms will sign them up for "free" knowing Medicaid health programs will pay the fees to get poor kids something better. They then never contact them with a troop.
The basic line I've heard relates to the same reason public schools have girl only math and science classes. Girls do better in them.
Girls between the ages of 10 and 17 in girl only learning and social environments get better grades, higher test scores, and are evaluated by their teachers as doing better than in co-ed environments, the girls also self report being happier and more confident, but that's self reporting and subject to it's limitations.
The girl's face at 4:44 is priceless!
Is 4H still around? My aunts were in 4H, made ball gowns, everyday dresses, canned fruit and veggies, planned and made meals, grew gardens, etc.
Yes!
Heck yeah 4H! I decorated a cake for the county fair. That was fun haha
THERE Is NO! rocket science. Its Rocket engineering.. AWDUWHADUFKJDJSB
My mom was a girl scout leader and I support their charter. As a boy scout I can tell you in the 70s the girl scouts did amazing and fun things...so much so I quit boy scouts and just went to the gs meetings with my mom...we got to have campfires and make pancakes and smores while the boy scouts were making a Santa out of readers digest...
I’m a card carrying adult Girl Scout, and Bothin was the first camp I ever attended. Girls get it done!
As a long time Girl Scout as a child I can attest to how awesome this organization is. Thanks Desi!
I still wish (30 years later) we had lived in an area with a Girl Scout troop when I was of that age. Looks so much fun. Never understood why we were so void of girl scouts to join in the middle of the biggest city in the state but my mom tried to find one and couldn't. At least I got to spend every summer in camp in the wilderness (apparently less expensive than day care at the time). Best times of my childhood. I can't think of a single reason I would want to join the boy scouts. They have a pretty horrid reputation, probably harder for a girl to make friends, and they don't have cookies.
Things might have changed now, but when I was a kid and in Boy Scouts, I knew Girl Scouts that wished they were in Boy Scouts because we actually did "cool/fun" stuff. Boy Scouts is actually moderately rigorous. For example a few of the requirements for the Boy Scout cycling merit badge are 50 mile bike ride and knowledge of how to repair your bicycle. It is almost like school. Where merit badges are courses and some are required while others are electives. Eagle Scout projects are like senior capstone projects and are typically moderately large community improvement projects such as: refurbishing a community playground or installing bus benches throughout the city for the elderly and disabled. This is why being an Eagle Scout means something (or least used to). From what I recall, Girl Scouts was definitely not like this.
0:35 Its just self-interest by the Girl Scouts. Though they do have a more "modern" and up-to-date program, boy scouts has a more consistent and prestigious awards program.
My eldest is going to work on the gold award next year. Love Girl Scouts!
I did Boy Scouts growing up. My wife and my sister did Girl Scouts. Both of them were bored with the "crafts and cookies" bit and badges that were great if you one day wanted to run a business, particularly if it was art or fashion related, but less fun if you wanted to shoot, fish, backpack, or any of the more adventurous outdoor activities. My sister jumped ship and joined the BSA Explorers when she got old enough, even worked at a BSA camp for a few years. When the news first broke about BSA opening up to girls my wife and I looked up a list of the BSA merit badges a scout could earn, based on his (and now her) interests. My wife actually got angry when she saw what the boys had been offered versus what she had to choose from in the GS.
desi’s corresponding skills have become unbelievable. i love all her segments & they just keep getting better! she’s my wce but don’t tell her. 💕
Desi is soooo funny. I love her humor!
I was in Brownie's for a couple years, but we didn't do much except make crafts in a school project area. I do remember loving camp, though. No electricity, our cabins were A-frames with only two walls, doing hiking and swimming, it was fun and very team building.
1:30 Mark Gaetz suddenly felt much more attracted to Desi 😂😂
Boyscout here. Eagle in fact. I have no problem with co-ed scouting programs. BUT THEY ALREADY EXISTED. so yeah, the lawsuit that resulted in girls being in girlscouts was irreparably damaging to boyscouts and girlscouts alike, as well as sea scouts and venture scouts and a multitude of others that were shut down as a result.
Sooo what Desi is saying is separate but equal... Idk dude I think that foxsplain segment has changed her
Never really knew anything about girl scouts other than the cookie sales, but I really wanted to see Desi in the uniform :D
Desi is a GEM!!!!!!!
Before Girl Scouts phased out the First Class which was equal to Eagle, I and six peers were able to get that award in the 80s... Long time ago :)
This is interesting because when I was a teen over 20+ years in NY; I was part of the first girl scout, boy scout troop where we could earn both badges. One of the girls in our troop earned Eagle scout we went camping with the boys it was great. I even got some boy scout badges myself
YOU ARE HILARIOUS!! I love you!!!! 😂
This was so touching! Almost like my hope in the future is restored.
Desi looks great in her Girl Scout uniform. It will be the perfect Halloween costume.
Desi is always a riot... 😄
Girl Scout Cookies Ranked:
1. Samoas
2. Thin Mints
3. S'mores
4. Everything else
As a former Boy Scout, a looooong time ago, and a lifelong progressive, this is not the right decision by the Boy Scouts. Girls deserve to be girls, and boys deserve to be boys, without throwing in a whole lotta confusion. The original intent for both organizations was and is valid.
Say "boys deserve to be boys" out loud. I'll wait until you hear the problem.
Girl scouts. Stop it. the store has better and cheaper cookies.
By far the funniest correspondent on the show! In my opinion ❤ but you're ALL HILARIOUS!!!
She always cracks me up and makes my day.
Being an active Girl Scout for about 12 years now, this skit honestly cracked me up.
Desi is a treasure.
True. That Women supporting women part...👍👍👍
If they could just remove religion from the platform. That’s the real antiquated part b
So trueee! Religion ruins everything
Does it really🤔
@@20luvdunbar09 yes
I've been a Girl Scout for years, and I've never noticed any religious stuff. Even the graces that we say before meals at camp are specifically non-religious, thanking the Earth instead of a deity.
@@20luvdunbar09 He just got the quote wrong. It should be "religion poisons everything".
I'm a simple person, I see Desi, I click!
From Norway here
I love Desi, she is so Funny.
🤣👍🇳🇴❤️🙏😆😂😀🇳🇴
Desi ,a Girl scout Indeed . I may even say a trooper .We Love you girl
This was done in my country ages ago. I hated girl scouts but loved scouts.
The girls were evil to be around but the boys were cool and interesting and had better activities.
That was awesome some of the badges they showed were BSA merit badges.
I offered girl scouts a free canoe ride and a stay in my boy scout tent ( kind of a package deal ) and they always came up with excuses why they couldn't come. I even pointed out that I had a badge in rope knot tying. So they had their chances!
I have a hunch that Desi's next stint is going to be a visit with the Spelling Bee contestants. Now here's one of the last American Sacred Cows that has not been mocked. Go Desi!
Desi is the best at The Daily 😅
The only thing I wanted when I was a kid was to actually learn outdoor camping and survival skills. When I was a pup they wouldn't let kids do that if they were assigned female. So girl scouts/boy scouts whatever. Will they show you how to build a camp?
I LOVED being a GS, but, I would’ve loved to do some of the activities the boys got to do- I.e., survivalist stuff, fishing, etc.
I was a Girl Scout. Oh how I miss those days.
I’m a huge fan of Girl Scouts 🙌🏽❤
This video still doesn't address what's wrong with boy scouts allowing girls in... the girl scout CEO only cares about how much money she loses if girls have options🤦🏽♂️ don't remember anyone saying girl scouts should be canceled
I do love Desi Lydic!
I was a boyscout the best parts of being one were the Camping trips, the communtiy service projects, and the pool parties. The cons were that most of my troop were aholes who slacked off and didn't do much, the pinewood derbys where most of the kids just had their dads or older brothers make their cars, and my troop was connected to the LDS church so we had to learn about Joseph Smith and the Nephites and Lamenites which is still hilarious to me. Overall I personally think that girls probably learn alot more actual useful things in life in the girl scouts.
You may be happy to hear the LDS has chosen to form their own coed Scouting group now.
@@mascotnet thats nice to know but im an agnostic now lol. Kind of thanks to the LDS church and me wanting to test their book of Mormon.
@@raistlinmajere7149 I know a Venturer who joined the Salvation Army because they chartered her Venturing Crew. It happens. We have a number of agnostics/nonadherents in our Troop and Crew, and we encourage them to develop their faith as positively as we can. Many people don't realize BSA is an interfaith organization.
Guys Desi aka Lani Desmonet Lydic is 39! Love her.
I know that a lot of people that know about the gold star award consider it pretty much the equal of Eagle since it has similar requirements, but it just isn’t super well known.
I love you, Desi!
When I was a Girl Scout we did coloring projects while my brother went on a four week sailing trip with the Boy Scouts
Back in the 70s, I was total by the GS troop leader that they didn't have room for me and I couldn't join. I was brokenhearted. I became a CEO of a major northeastern nonprofit organization without them. Boom
Never boring moment with Desi 😂
I find it so wierd that usa has girl scouts and boy scouts not just scouts
At least they have these scouts many countries don't
Those are some seriously cool girls. ❤️
Only Liz to make girl scout seems that it is hard.😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Truly hysterical.
We as a society are so obsessed with equality is that we sometimes forget every human is different from another.
I was a Blue Bird, which in the Camp Fire Girls (now simply Camp Fire, as boys are allowed membership) is equivalent to the GSA's rank of Brownie. It would've been okay had our adult leader not shown favoritism to her one daughter.
Desi.... YOU ARE HILARIOUS!!!
4:40 That's how the audience feels as well
Desi we love you, another great video!
I work for Girl Scouts in Philanthropy, and we cover 29 counties in two states. We just launched a Mobile STEM van, taking stem experiments out to the rural communities. We tap into local events, to give all kids an opportunity to experience the adventure of a stem activity. We also provide funding for underserved girls to participate at no charge to their family, including uniforms, patches, and camps. We look for community partners and grant opportunities to provide these services. This is how we really operate.
I was a girl scout for 18 years. My south Carolina town ran 3 news articles on the one boy from my high school who earned his eagle and zero on the three girls who earned their gold. If you can't beat em join em. This is how the world operates.
My best friend earned the Gold Award. Her achievement was mentioned in the Congressional Record.
3:58 Desi's badges
YW
"She's a little old to be a girl scout" so young and already discriminating.
She is young with limited vocabulary. Geez! Shame on you who liked this comment.
@@bokani79 no excuses...that's favoritism.
I need aaaaaall the unedited footage from this clip, stat.
lol so american
where I’m from it’s just scouts girls and boys
I remember throwing up at the Boy Scout initiation when I was a kid and needing to leave before it was finished; for whatever reason I didn't care to go back
Nothing of value was lost.
Nothings better in preparing you for a leadership role in a male dominanted field than being in an all female group!
Sound logic there.
The only things they let us do in Girl Scouts besides sell cookies was make bead jewelry and keychains
That boy in the group 🤣 guess he will have some talks with a shrink later in his life
Naaa. She doesn't want it merged. Simple due to the revenue alone. Just saying.
Tho as you get older, venture scouts has joint scouts anyway.
I like the scouts, done it for my entire youth. But i never pondered the idea of two separate gender segregated organizations, until I came to USA. What a strange thing to do.
You, too, and be a Golden Girl, without applying for AARP!
I love Desi