My CSI Humboldt seed order arrived today. Couldn’t be happier. I love that man. Those free seeds are no joke. I’m as excited about some of them as what I ordered. Thank you, Caleb.
Back in the late 70's and early 80's east of the Mississippi River, most seed came from the earliest flowering males by accident and/or intentioned. We bred for the quickest flowering and shortest plants. The choppers and planes were flying hard after 79' the same as Ca. Great podcasts on these subjects. Always a trip down Memory Lane. lol
True. Sadly, we took quality stuff and tried to mold it to our needs and it quite often didnt work well for those genetic populations usually over time. We bred out the special qualities in order to have faster flowering/shorter flowering period/less loud cannabis at that time. Everyone wanted that 45 day unicorn back then and we bred out alot of qualities to fit our needs. Like breeding the skunkiness out of Skunk cuz no one wanted to get busted with smelly plants on your property. We bred the Haze qualities out of the Haze trying to hybridize it for indoor use etc. We fooked up.
I think Tom Hill said he loves the Doc's OG Kush because of how well it grows outdoor (on his pot cast interviews) Thanks for sharing Breeders Syndicate! please bring CSI back - he's the crowd favorite
Love all the Syndicate shows, Caleb's appearances are definitely my favorites! I always end up pausing and/ or rewinding to write shit down so I don't forget! The breeding knowledge and experience the three of you share is fucking priceless. I say that sincerely, most free advice is free because it ain't worth jack shit, especially in the cannabis universe.
What about reversing males to see what they express as a female. Or reversing a nale and hitting it with it's self.... so like a reg seed s1..... doesn't the male carry more traits. You would think that could open up more of the line.
This actually something I think I'm gonna do now that i finally have some indoor space. For the past 6 or 7 years I've only had outdoor going. And now i have a breeding project in mind and while I'm doing that i think I'm gonna play around with a male like this and see what happens.... maybe i should document it and share 🤔
Id have to concur w/ Caleb and NSD regarding Chem D being a possible S1. When it comes to Chem, in my outdoor experience of the last 3-4 outdoor seasons everything Chem is outcrossed to it appears the Chem half dominates those lines. Everything Ive cracked of Chem, and what Ive bred myself is always some shade of Chem dominant expression in the next generation. Id recommend anyone who needs a solid limited genetic-expressed plant to breed with use the the Chem stuff as a start. Although dont expect yer Chem/Haze hybrid to express much Haze dom stuff. Chem'll suck it up and take it over. Would've loved to axe Caleb if he could find the Black Licorice Durb within his Durban S1 stuff? I grew a pack of his Durb S1's and found that fucking Terpinoline dominant Durb in em. Some of it was still quite buzzy but not the flavour profile I was looking for. Almost Lime/lemon-lime profile. That late 80's/early 90's Black Licorice Durban Poison was sublime. Solid 3 hr high. Id give my left nut for some of that early Durban work from that period.
Ran a decent sized hunt up north this summer…burned a ton of gas and time and still missed the best keeper cuts and the seeds didn’t take great because of the super shitty weather…bottom line you can’t tell til it’s in the jar…I learned a lot and it was super fun so I guess it was worth the effort …
I love the shows....i hope we can get to 10k to get NotSoDog back soon. Please 🙏 do this. Take 2 vars ..one for strength, one for taste. Inbreed them both ( with males) selecting for the one assigned trait, for SIX gens, you will get really inbred weak progeny but either tasty or strong. Then on the SEVENTH gen cross them together......A TRUE f1 hybrid......the hybrid vigour will be off the charts There is some mystical truth about the 7th son and all that shit...but with plants the 7th gen or a cross of two 6th gen inbred lines will give you a true f1 hybrid....
Were having a problem here in Canada I noticed that there isnt much interest in finding new stuff for market. Alot of it here is actually S1 knock offs of clone only popular (usually Cali) cultivar remakes. Like MAC 1. On the front its sold as "MAC 1" but Its actually labelled as "our (S1) version of MAC 1" on the back, but it isnt typically a quality representation of the actual clone only. So fucking sad. I caught onto their game here. Bland/forgettable expressions of the original. I wish the fuck we could open up plant numbers for breeding R&D here. 90% of what I see here on shelves is just a homogenous mix of forgettable cannabis with a 5 minute high. Quality of experience seems rather low on the list. If quality of experience isnt number 1 when breeding then everything downstream is just usually forgettable junk. WTF are we doing canna-folks? Make Quality of Experience Great Again, please "breeders".
Look for 30 year Long hippy breeders, preferably that work of landrace cultivars and Focus less on bud structure/bag appeal and hunt for trichomes for Hash production and organoleptic profiles that keep their profile even as Hash.
If anyone knows, you guys will, that is : Is there a blueberry x Sour Diesel in seed form that is both the real deal and available for purchase? Those two strains grow like wildfire for me here outdoors! However it gets really hot here sometimes for 2 weeks at a time and B.B. doesn't like it. Sour Diesel seems to thrive during these times if you water each day during mid afternoon to cool root zones. Sour ain't bad to trim but a bit ugly. B.B. outdoors is a nightmare to trim but lovely, I could go on, but point I am trying to get at is, I would love to try something like this . Especially if you guys could point me in a direction with your extensive knowledge of each strain. Ain't nothing like seeing something with your own eyes. As my late father said, Don't let nobody tell you how to grow corn if his silo ain't full, son.
This podcast reminds me, of an old partner who crossed everything he found. Even if it wasn't the actual real cut and made a seed business, and never popped his own seeds. Lol. Nature fraud
Fwiw back in the eighties I was supposedly buying Afghan hash and it had been embossed little golden M16s, the Soviet Afghan war...🤷 Me Just a dumb kid
Member seeing for the freedom of Afghanistan printed in gold on some really crap black hash here in Ulster .during 80.s gold seal and red seal .just gave me a sore head .best hash ever had here was indian charas ..beautiful stuff
@robbiebanks9182 Good to know. The stuff I had was about the same, total crap. I'm still wondering if it wasn't just a local hack making something up or if it was a state-sponsored product, if you know what I mean ( Charlie Indian Alpha )
IMO, if u not breeding for quality of experience as your number 1 goal, everything else downstream is a waste of time usually. Our Canadian market here is filled with mostly unimpressive homogenous cannabis with a 10 minute high. I just shake my head anymore. At least CSI grows enough offspring populations he can tell you what you should expect out of his stuff. Cant be said for a lot of "breeders" in the industry sadly.
It depends on the project. I choose a group of traits. Simply put my goals change with each project. I choose a new goal and choose plants from my seeds or clone that can deliver plants with said traits.
Awesome show- I took a dark green UKch/HIlites male out of flowering & it is still making clouds, the other more sativa male (same seeds) only dropped a little so far.. definitely could be variables here I must say. Also I found a funny Riot Seeds review & couldn't resist adding music- just though it sounded cool. th-cam.com/video/JVLsomvBoKc/w-d-xo.html
Hey guys again, I lost the original BreeSynd where I linked a video of some of CSI's Purple Hindu Kush S1's- (one was an "anomaly?"). I will try to attach an updated short video. Before watching, please excuse the undead drinkholder setup, just waiting to put them outside, hopefully. The notable thing is the big/round leaves (from the "anomaly", vs. the smaller pointer ones on the slender one. Is this Purple Inica vs. Hindu Kush? Thanks again for the work. th-cam.com/video/40pofaydnbs/w-d-xo.html
Long story short - he’s the second copycat. The first was a customer of mine who worked with logic from thc farmer and was a scammer and liar. Then he died from a heroin overdose and this clown from the east coast named big Dan Greenthumb stole the scammer moniker and went on to scam as well. The end
right on. this fellow seems questionable and talks big game but, never seems willing to talk about his process and how he got where he perceives to be. keep up the great podcast love hearing this outlaw history come to light so fascinating
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My CSI Humboldt seed order arrived today. Couldn’t be happier. I love that man. Those free seeds are no joke. I’m as excited about some of them as what I ordered. Thank you, Caleb.
I’ll show him this 💜
"Throw some pollin on your favorite females and see what happens" is a beautiful out of context quote.
Back in the late 70's and early 80's east of the Mississippi River, most seed came from the earliest flowering males by accident and/or intentioned.
We bred for the quickest flowering and shortest plants.
The choppers and planes were flying hard after 79' the same as Ca.
Great podcasts on these subjects.
Always a trip down Memory Lane. lol
True. Sadly, we took quality stuff and tried to mold it to our needs and it quite often didnt work well for those genetic populations usually over time. We bred out the special qualities in order to have faster flowering/shorter flowering period/less loud cannabis at that time. Everyone wanted that 45 day unicorn back then and we bred out alot of qualities to fit our needs. Like breeding the skunkiness out of Skunk cuz no one wanted to get busted with smelly plants on your property. We bred the Haze qualities out of the Haze trying to hybridize it for indoor use etc. We fooked up.
When you say we… ;) I’m intererested
@@BreedersSyndicate One thing for certain, the name "Skunk" came from us "hillbillies". Who else would have called it Skunk? lol
Simple as it gets here - CSI:HUMBOLDT is the TRUTH bearer of BREEDING period! Real Deal 🌎
I think Tom Hill said he loves the Doc's OG Kush because of how well it grows outdoor (on his pot cast interviews) Thanks for sharing Breeders Syndicate! please bring CSI back - he's the crowd favorite
Love all the Syndicate shows, Caleb's appearances are definitely my favorites! I always end up pausing and/ or rewinding to write shit down so I don't forget! The breeding knowledge and experience the three of you share is fucking priceless.
I say that sincerely, most free advice is free because it ain't worth jack shit, especially in the cannabis universe.
Same!
Damn, cant believe I missed this episode. Watching now thou. Happy New Years Syndicate.
Fucking love this podcast. Well done boys.
Thats why Subby alwayz sed take time to find the right male, and it can take years...solid advice..RIP Subby
I have bred both ways and I definitely prefer breeding with Males these days. It's more work but worth it in my opinion.
This is an important subject.Thanks for approaching it.
CSI has some fire, I just got his TK. I’m also looking to get a decent cut of OG raskals WIFI43, if anyone knows.
Great discussion, guys! A wealth of knowledge! Thanks!
I thought that thing In the background on Notsodog’s screen was some sort of sunglasses shrine . Gotta lay off the wake and bake 😂
What about reversing males to see what they express as a female. Or reversing a nale and hitting it with it's self.... so like a reg seed s1..... doesn't the male carry more traits. You would think that could open up more of the line.
This actually something I think I'm gonna do now that i finally have some indoor space. For the past 6 or 7 years I've only had outdoor going. And now i have a breeding project in mind and while I'm doing that i think I'm gonna play around with a male like this and see what happens.... maybe i should document it and share 🤔
I was thinking the germ fail was candy rain. lol I remember that. Lmao
Id have to concur w/ Caleb and NSD regarding Chem D being a possible S1. When it comes to Chem, in my outdoor experience of the last 3-4 outdoor seasons everything Chem is outcrossed to it appears the Chem half dominates those lines. Everything Ive cracked of Chem, and what Ive bred myself is always some shade of Chem dominant expression in the next generation. Id recommend anyone who needs a solid limited genetic-expressed plant to breed with use the the Chem stuff as a start. Although dont expect yer Chem/Haze hybrid to express much Haze dom stuff. Chem'll suck it up and take it over.
Would've loved to axe Caleb if he could find the Black Licorice Durb within his Durban S1 stuff? I grew a pack of his Durb S1's and found that fucking Terpinoline dominant Durb in em. Some of it was still quite buzzy but not the flavour profile I was looking for. Almost Lime/lemon-lime profile.
That late 80's/early 90's Black Licorice Durban Poison was sublime. Solid 3 hr high. Id give my left nut for some of that early Durban work from that period.
He said Chem 91 is an s1 or s2 we believe chemD to be a hybrid
He just did a big Durb line, check it out
Finally!!! This is the Real news
Just subscribed, thank you for posting!
Where has this been my whole life..? West Kentucky in the house..
Excellent podcast all three bros 👍👍👍👍
Matt searchin for the Bullrider.💯🔥
Like to hear Csi, Notso and Skunk VA talk about the early daze. Could that ever happen?
Nope; we tried for years with skunkVa. He doesn’t like CSI, Notso, and now apparently me, which is new to me, and not mutual.
I wonder why??
Great video! Been growing since 1986 & you guys have dropped knowledge, eh?
Ran a decent sized hunt up north this summer…burned a ton of gas and time and still missed the best keeper cuts and the seeds didn’t take great because of the super shitty weather…bottom line you can’t tell til it’s in the jar…I learned a lot and it was super fun so I guess it was worth the effort …
awsome s2 and f2 is where the fun is
Thanks for the good info! Helps me a lot in my future seed making. Much thanks!!
Growing CSI chemd s1 and the runts of the litter smell like root beer and star anise and Frosty and black Where's that come from
Dog u got give Matt Caleb more talking time
I'm stuck between getting the chemdog 91 s1 or the chemdog D s1.
I love the shows....i hope we can get to 10k to get NotSoDog back soon.
Please 🙏 do this.
Take 2 vars ..one for strength, one for taste.
Inbreed them both ( with males) selecting for the one assigned trait, for SIX gens, you will get really inbred weak progeny but either tasty or strong.
Then on the SEVENTH gen cross them together......A TRUE f1 hybrid......the hybrid vigour will be off the charts
There is some mystical truth about the 7th son and all that shit...but with plants the 7th gen or a cross of two 6th gen inbred lines will give you a true f1 hybrid....
Were having a problem here in Canada I noticed that there isnt much interest in finding new stuff for market. Alot of it here is actually S1 knock offs of clone only popular (usually Cali) cultivar remakes. Like MAC 1. On the front its sold as "MAC 1" but Its actually labelled as "our (S1) version of MAC 1" on the back, but it isnt typically a quality representation of the actual clone only. So fucking sad. I caught onto their game here. Bland/forgettable expressions of the original. I wish the fuck we could open up plant numbers for breeding R&D here. 90% of what I see here on shelves is just a homogenous mix of forgettable cannabis with a 5 minute high. Quality of experience seems rather low on the list. If quality of experience isnt number 1 when breeding then everything downstream is just usually forgettable junk. WTF are we doing canna-folks? Make Quality of Experience Great Again, please "breeders".
lKR, eh?
Look for 30 year Long hippy breeders, preferably that work of landrace cultivars and Focus less on bud structure/bag appeal and hunt for trichomes for Hash production and organoleptic profiles that keep their profile even as Hash.
Jurassic park showed us the trying to control sex isn’t perfect
T-1000 was very nice TY!
Great conversation fellas 💯
Notso needed a haircut 🧑🌾
If anyone knows, you guys will, that is : Is there a blueberry x Sour Diesel in seed form that is both the real deal and available for purchase? Those two strains grow like wildfire for me here outdoors! However it gets really hot here sometimes for 2 weeks at a time and B.B. doesn't like it. Sour Diesel seems to thrive during these times if you water each day during mid afternoon to cool root zones. Sour ain't bad to trim but a bit ugly. B.B. outdoors is a nightmare to trim but lovely, I could go on, but point I am trying to get at is, I would love to try something like this . Especially if you guys could point me in a direction with your extensive knowledge of each strain. Ain't nothing like seeing something with your own eyes. As my late father said, Don't let nobody tell you how to grow corn if his silo ain't full, son.
Yep. Check out Instagram for pics and people’s testimony
When was this recorded notso looks crazy
Hahaha this is from a couple of years back
Indiana bubblegum and lemon g were the first strains I ever ran!
This podcast reminds me, of an old partner who crossed everything he found. Even if it wasn't the actual real cut and made a seed business, and never popped his own seeds. Lol. Nature fraud
We've had and been useing feminized seed in SW Ontario Canada since late 90s.
Fwiw back in the eighties I was supposedly buying Afghan hash and it had been embossed little golden M16s, the Soviet Afghan war...🤷
Me Just a dumb kid
Member seeing for the freedom of Afghanistan printed in gold on some really crap black hash here in Ulster .during 80.s gold seal and red seal .just gave me a sore head .best hash ever had here was indian charas ..beautiful stuff
@robbiebanks9182 Good to know. The stuff I had was about the same, total crap.
I'm still wondering if it wasn't just a local hack making something up or if it was a state-sponsored product, if you know what I mean ( Charlie Indian Alpha )
I remeber that. Crap. here in Ireland .worst hash ever
Ya Know
Notsosnow
Just curious, what is y’all’s breeding goals. What is it that you breed for
IMO, if u not breeding for quality of experience as your number 1 goal, everything else downstream is a waste of time usually. Our Canadian market here is filled with mostly unimpressive homogenous cannabis with a 10 minute high. I just shake my head anymore. At least CSI grows enough offspring populations he can tell you what you should expect out of his stuff. Cant be said for a lot of "breeders" in the industry sadly.
It depends on the project. I choose a group of traits. Simply put my goals change with each project. I choose a new goal and choose plants from my seeds or clone that can deliver plants with said traits.
@@BreedersSyndicate dope brotha, love the podcast.. hella awesome info 💪
💯🔥😎💪
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S1 is such a tool
Awesome show- I took a dark green UKch/HIlites male out of flowering & it is still making clouds, the other more sativa male (same seeds) only dropped a little so far.. definitely could be variables here I must say. Also I found a funny Riot Seeds review & couldn't resist adding music- just though it sounded cool.
th-cam.com/video/JVLsomvBoKc/w-d-xo.html
Hey guys again,
I lost the original BreeSynd where I linked a video of some of CSI's Purple Hindu Kush S1's- (one was an "anomaly?"). I will try to attach an updated short video. Before watching, please excuse the undead drinkholder setup, just waiting to put them outside, hopefully. The notable thing is the big/round leaves (from the "anomaly", vs. the smaller pointer ones on the slender one. Is this Purple Inica vs. Hindu Kush? Thanks again for the work.
th-cam.com/video/40pofaydnbs/w-d-xo.html
My3FavouritePpl
💜🙏
hey matt do you have a video or story around crappycat?
Never heard of her ;)
Long story short - he’s the second copycat. The first was a customer of mine who worked with logic from thc farmer and was a scammer and liar. Then he died from a heroin overdose and this clown from the east coast named big Dan Greenthumb stole the scammer moniker and went on to scam as well. The end
right on. this fellow seems questionable and talks big game but, never seems willing to talk about his process and how he got where he perceives to be. keep up the great podcast love hearing this outlaw history come to light so fascinating