Big Finish Rescore - The Ninth Doctor and The Brig Say Goodbye | 'The Forth Generation'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.พ. 2022
- The Ninth Doctor Adventures - 'Old Friends' gave us another special treat with Eccleston's Doctor meeting the Brigadier, played by Jon Culshaw. I've edited their last scene together from the final story, 'The Forth Generation', using Murray Gold's piece 'Brigadier Lethbridge - Stewart', first heard in the series 6 finale, 'The Wedding of River Song'.
This is just for fun, no copyright infringement is intended!
'The Ninth Doctor Adventures - Old Friends' was released in Feburary 2022 and can be found on the official Big Finish Productions website: www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/...
'Brigadier Lethbridge - Stewart' is owned by Murray Gold and the BBC, the track was released in December 2011 on the Doctor Who Series 6 Soundtrack.
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I really wish the Brig had appeared in the modern series - he's the only major part of the classic series that never turned up
He was in The Sarah Jane Adventures series 2 finale 'Enemy of the Bane', but yes would have been amazing to have him turn up in the main show. He was written into the series 4 Sontaran two parter and finale but Nick Courtney couldn't film it due to health issues I believe.
@@doctorwhorescored3151Yep, that’s true, but Series 1 could’ve also worked.
Susan hasn't appeared yet!
@@idjles SHE'S DEAD
@@codeguy7309
(Cliffhanger music)
*CREDITS ROLL*
Jon Culshaw is the best homage to Nicholas Courtney
I think you mean Courtney. Nicholas Briggs is very much alive
Never understood how Culshaw keeps getting work doing this stuff. All his voices sound exactly the same bar his Tom Baker. This sounds NOTHING like Nicholas Courtney.
@@matthill3293 That's a matter of opinion, to me it sounds fine, really, but feel free to disagree, just don't turn it into an endless argument.
@@timlemmens1087 I literally just did disagree. I never suggested that my opinion was fact. I'm not turning it into anything.
@@matthill3293 Good.
"Only one best friend tho. I wasn't talking about you."
From here till the end, I'm sucked in. I genuinely believe this is the last time any incarnation of the Doctor interacted with the Brigadier. And the fact that it's Nine is...a pleasant surprise.
I'm still holding out hope for 10 to meet him, especially as Nick Courtney was originally planned to appear in series 4.
@@doctorwhorescored3151 I'd argue that would go against TV canon, which is tantamount to law. The fact that Ten never meets the Brigadier makes the scene where Eleven finds out that he's passed all the more poignant.
This scene with Nine ONLY works because Nine met the Brig long before meeting Rose. From then on, there's a long, long gap.
@mikebliss3153 It would certainly make 11's reaction all the more emotional, though bare in mind that the Doctors live a lot longer than what we see on TV, so a meeting between 10 and the Brig could still work as there could still be a massive gap in their life up to that point.
@@mikebliss3153 Tantamount to law??? You must be new around here
@@doctorwhorescored3151 the issue is fitting it not only around the tv show and the 50th but sarah jane adventures and the previous big finish stories with 10. hes not got a lot of time to spare and thats not even counting the comics
Everything about that clip is perfect, the voice actors the dialogue the music, feel like I’m watching Nicolas Courtney and Christopher Eccleston, probably the last time canonically the doctor meets the brig
Thanks! There's nothing stopping the 10th Doctor from meeting the Brig, which I hope Big Finish give us one day, though this would have been a fitting final hurrah for the Doctor's encounters with him.
@@doctorwhorescored3151 Even the Eleventh Doctor could see The Brig again, they'd just have to make sure they set it before the end of series 6. Which is easy, considering just how much time The Doctor spent between Christmas Carol and the start of 6 when he shows up in the diner, clueless about why he's there. Also spent a lot of time putting off his own death before he called The Brig and found out he'd passed away. I sometimes think Moffat was purposely putting massive gaps in 11's story (hundreds of years at times) just so Big Finish would one day have more space to work with than usual. I hope Matt Smith agrees to do some one day. Dudman is great as 11, but i'd be more excited if it was really Matt Smith.
Like everything with Doctor Who, probably just a matter of time.
@@doctorwhorescored3151 I think in the Day Of The Doctor novelization it's referenced that the 11th Doctor visited him when he was dying. Though from the Doctor's perspective that was after he found out the Brig had passed in Series 6.
Whoever did the Brig's voice here is incredibly talented 👏
It's Jon Culshaw, he's been in the role for a fair few years now.
@@doctorwhorescored3151 Incredible
He must have studied the Brigadier very diligently to be able to recreate his voice this well
@@Suedeash He certainly did, he also does Roger Delgado and Anthony Ainley's Master and Kamelion. There are some moments where he's talking to himself hahaha
"That's a young person's game" he says having met Evelyn Smythe
The Series 6 track fits fantastically well with this wonderful scene. ❤️💔
And he was ready, even after death, he killed the Master and saved his daughter as a Cyberman
Hard disagree with many people here.... Both actors sound convincing enough that I can picture the scene in my head, and it has all the warmth of Sarah Jane and the 10th doctors goodbye in School Reunion. I think sometimes it's good to just let your imagination go and enjoy the peace instead of pick it apart. Enjoy the art.
i know the Doctor is post-Time War here, but you could hear the warmth in his voice fo the Brigadier no matter what
Dude I even imagined the scene in my head
A lesser man wouldn’t cry.
I did.
I need to pick up the 9th Doctor audio stories, this scene is just really touching
Man, this is making me miss Nicholas Courtney something fierce❤
It’s a shame health issues prevented Courtney from appearing one last time.
The score is so good, hearing the new theme with the ninth doctor is crazy.
The brig actor really does sound like Nicholas Courtney
If you know what to listen for, though, you can hear Jon Culshaw in truth.
Guys, I have to say something: in regards to Eccleston’s performance, in all fairness, he had been out of the role for nearly 20 years and he’s probably getting used to it, hence why he sounds a bit flat here.
Also, Nine doesn’t have the best social skills compared to Eight. I mean, being in war for many years can do something to you.
Where Hart was the War Doctor, Eccleston was the war worn Doctor.
2005 to 2019 isn't "nearly 20 years"
@@matthill3293 keyword “almost”
@@_____2219 14 isn't almost 20...
@@matthill3293 15 years
Such a brilliant story
This fits incredibly well. It surprised me.
fantastic adventures… one last time…
The music 🥲
Now we need a story of 10 meeting the brigadear
No, the Tenth Doctor is so new for that.
Who's looking for the short?
Is this the last time The Doctor sees the Brig?
In his life yeah the last time ever
The Curator spent the last of the Brig's years with him.
Of course not 😉
I would say more this is the last time the brigadier sees the doctor there could still be wiggle room for a audio story where 10 meets the brigadier
Eccleston really sounds like he's reading off a script here. The chemistry between these two is nonexistent
Yeah i agree
Does sound a bit off
In fairness, the original scene had no music, so the pair of them being so casual might seem a little jarring with the bombastic Murray Gold score.
This was an outake a practice not the final work ..why it sounds off
I suppose it’s because this was among that first series of audios Eccleston recorded, so he was still getting used to working in the audio format. And this was also recorded remotely as a result of Covid, so Eccleston and Culshaw were not in the same room as each other.
But in any case, this still sounds fine to me. The Brigadier and the Doctor have never really been ones to open up and talk about their feelings, the 9th Doctor even less so, so them being a bit awkward is in keeping with that.
In fact, the story even highlights this, as the whole reason the Doctor is visiting the Brigadier here is because he had just attended a funeral and realised that time was short, so he didn’t want to leave anything unsaid between them.
That’s not really Eccleston, is it? It sounds off. John Culshaw is brilliant as the Brig, though. I could swear it’s like they brought Nicholas Courtney back!
It is him
You haven't heard he signed a massive deal with Big Finish to come back? And Of course he is gonna sound a bit off when he hasn't played the character in 17 years and only had one series to work with
@@rammy3879everyone said the same about Tennant sounding abit different when he returned as the 14th doctor but many reckon he did it on purpose to show that the 2nd incarnation of him was wiser, more sensitive and more human with his emotions. Where as 10 never tended to talk about his past as much as he does when he’s the 14th.
Eleventh doctor music? Lol
Lol 11's music
Eccleston sounds a little off. Like a bit too theatrical that doesn’t fit the ninth
I mean in this case, after the time war hes talking with one of his oldest of friends throughout history
he's talking to one of his oldest friends from before the time war. Also, Chris had been out of the role for almost seventeen years before the BBC convinced him to return to the role to do the audio series
@@lucyhardy-styles-shield2728 bbc didnt convince him, Big finish did. big finish are a licensee seperate from the bbc
I think he’s just enunciating more, as his voice is his only asset when recording an audio drama.
I thought Jon Culshaw was an impressionist? I can only hear his normal voice and he sounds nothing like the Brigadier! Just watch any clip with the Brigadier and then watch this video again, They sound nothing alike...
I felt that for an older Brig, it really needed some extra suspension of disbelief. If the part doesn't do it for you then fair enough, I personally think Culshaw sounds uncanny as the Brig in most releases.
@@doctorwhorescored3151 I suppose I should watch more clips of him doing the Brig's voice but in this clip all I can hear is Jon Culshaw doing a posh version of himself
No pause in between dialogue delivery makes this sound so unnatural and fake.
Never listened to anything Big Finish before so maybe this is how they all sound but ugh.
Audio drama is a dialogue heavy - nay, a dialogue reliant - medium, you can’t really afford to have dead air on a disc. It’s just one of those inherent differences you get used to. Like how stage acting is different to film acting.
Jon Culshaw is awful as the Brigadier.
He’s a damn sight closer than any other voice actor I’ve heard, sounds a lot closer to the Brig in SJA rather than the original series though
I agree he still just sounds like John Culshaw , i dont rate his Tom Baker much either!
@@michaelmcgwyre6390 ok now your just flat out wrong his tom is immaculate I cant even tell the two apart
@@amymorgan886 Sorry Amy still hear just John Culshsaw no matter how many times i listen
I actually think he's great in this, but in The Annihilators he really does just sound like John Culshaw. He's a better impressionist than actor, and he's absolutely spot on with maneurisms and people's speech patterns. Some of the voices themselves are better than others though.
Jeff Tracy would have honored the 9th doctor a international rescue badge