How To Clean Copper Coins Found Metal Detecting
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มี.ค. 2022
- This is the best method of cleaning old copper coins that have been found buried in the ground while metal detecting, in my opinion. Many TH-camrs immediately spray old colonial coppers and large cents that they dig with water and scrub the dirt and mud off of them with a toothbrush. I believe this to be a mistake, although I do understand the desire to immediately try to clean a coin for quick identification.
In this video, I describe and show why should never do that if you want the best opportunity to be able to identify the coin. In short, if you really want to spray the coin with water and brush it to clean it, you can always do that AFTER trying this method if you are not satisfied with the results. However, if you go straight to the water spray and rub, you forever forfeit the opportunity to observe the results of this less harsh cleaning method. This is especially important with dug coins that are very worn and those with poor strikes.
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I learned in conserving ancient Roman coins that the patina often displaces the metal, meaning the detail is preserved in the patina itself. Removing the patina almost always removes the details of the coin. Nice lesson, thanks Chigg.
I cleaned up lots of roman bronze and didn't worry too much about it. Olive oil soaks alternated with soft copper brushing (not brass). Even used electrolysis on the real stubborn crusties. They would have been fugly forever without it. Favorite was finding Germanicus / Caligula under thick encrustations. Wish I could still get the large imperials cheaply like in the good old days about 25 years ago, but those days are gone.
Coin definitely looked better before cleaning it. I appreciate you passing on your vast knowledge for to the rest of us.
My number one rule for dug coppers is to keep them away from water and brushes at all costs. I always use the toothpick method. Gotta love that green patina.
Chig anytime someone asks me how to clean a largie or copper we pull I share your older video “clean it ruin” one. I totally agree with that one watching this now
Your first no water cleaning was hands down the best. I have plenty of nose oil 😀 thanks for the heads up 👍
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Definitely loved the look of the coin prior to the water and oil “bath”. Thanks for the copper coin cleaning sequel Chigg!
These videos are extremely useful. It's obvious from the before-after that the features of the coin are much more easily discerned before the water and oil treatments. The patina kind of outlines the raised features and all of that delineation is lost when you scrubbed it.
I remember watching your first video about cleaning copper coins. It is one of the best how-to videos for our hobby on TH-cam. Thanks Chigg!
Agreed
Once you hit the coin with water it only looks decent when wet. One way to preserve a coin that was scrubbed like that (in my opinion) is to use a buffable crystalene wax like RenWax (or buffable floor wax). Apply warm, let it dry, buff to a sheen, and the details come out better. But the coin looked much better before you scrubbed with a toothbrush, wish people would learn that.
Great instruction! As I write this you instructed 2,800 viewers in the proper way to clean a copper coin found in the ground. Well worth showing one coin being scrubbed with water and a toothbrush!
What do you think? What step of this cleaning process resulted in a coin that best shows the coin's details and would be most interesting for others to look at in one of your displays? No water cleaning? Cleaning with water? Cleaning with water and a soak in oil? I like the "no water" one myself.
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No water! I think we all started off there though. Spray some water on and poof! There goes all your detail...
No water and some face oil 👍🏼
I like the oil idea. The pre water coin looked better
No water 👍
Don't clean.
Thank you for remaking this vid Chig.
So many people needed to see this.
Even old Wheaties, which most of us find to be a treasure, the same treatment goes for.
We can't all be masters of the dig like you sir.
Best detecting channel on TH-cam hands down.
Back in the 70's a major metal detector manufacture company (name withheld) strongly recommended that freshly dug coins should be soaked in olive oil and then cleaned. So back then,I always carried a small jar of the oil and dropped the coins in as soon as they were dug. After a few years of this method, I realized that this more often than not hurt the appearance of the coins. I then began using the "dry" method that you have explained in your video and began achieving much better results. Thanks for the very informative video. If today's newer coin hunters follow your advice, many dug coins will much better off.
Olive oil is an acid!
I watch 8 TH-cam channels that metal detect that includes your Channel too. None of them use water on old copper coins!!! Thank you for sharing this vlog with us!!! You can truly tell NOT to use water on an old copper coin!!! God bless!!!
Your a good man chigg, you just possibly saved thousands of old coins for collectors. Colonial coppers can be very very rare, and the difference in value from poor condition to good condition can thousands of dollars.
Collectors won't buy coins that have been cleaned 🤣🤣🤣
If I had ever come across a potentially old coin I bet I would’ve to cleaned it with water first thing, without knowing it would ruin it.
Seriously thank you, I learned something before making a mistake.
My grandparents have an enormous 3ft tall jar of coins sitting in their dining room that they have found over the years metal detecting. I remember getting them out and looking at them all and asking my grandad why they were still dirty. He told me exactly what you just said, and now seeing it demonstrated, I totally agree. Thanks for the demo Chigg.
Great video Chigg! I'd love to see a tour of your collection of finds and memorabilia and I think others would like that too. Have a good day Mr. Beau!
Without a doubt, "No water" is the best. Thank you for your informative and entertaining videos!
Relic room and shelves got a paint job. Looking good.
Thanks for the coin advice.
Your original video was terrific. I've shared it with people many times. Thanks for taking one (or two) for the team.
As a young man who was born in 99 I can honestly say I have appreciated your channel. You have made me reconsider my idea, of cleaning my sheet pennies.
And all this may be a personal opinion I think you are a good man Chig. Sorry if I misspelled it
No worries. Happy to see your comment.
Thanks for the update on this video. Really important info for those of us lucky enough to dig an occasional copper. And yes, I have ruined a few in the past. Thanks again Mr. Chigg.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. 1st cleaning definitely looked the best.
Great information for newbies like myself. Thank you
Thanx Chigg
Great information on keeping from damaging your finds.
Keep on doing what your doing
Amazing video. Definitely looked better before the water. Thank you for the knowledge. Keep up the amazing work
Great advice. Thanks!
Chiggs We took your advice a few years ago and also use the oil from our face. It is amazing how it works.
Best info I've heard so far...thanks!
Thank you for this! I just recently started metal detecting and a few weeks ago I dug a mercury dime from 1926 in absolute prestine condition! No cleaning necessary. However, I did dig some wheat pennies, that I cleaned with a brush and water and they didn't turn out like I thought they would. Anyway, I think you just saved me some heartache if I eventually dig a nice Indian head. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Great video Beau, we don't generally even clean our coins, we have a few preserved in soil clumps in the display cabinet - look great that way too. All the best mate, great idea to publish these instructional videos. Cheers mate and Happy Fossicking! Warren.
The coin was beautiful before the last steps ( mistakes). Thank you for sharing the knowledge in preserving history and the age of a find.
very well demonstrated.. nice process..
I think you are right on. I would treat any coin I find like you do. Great video!
Thank you for this helpful information
Hiya Beau, I agree with you on what you said, because I had found a old coin one time, and I cleaned it with a tooth brush and water, and it took everything off and now you can't tell what it is, and I regretted it ever since. I could kick my own but....for doing that.
That was 30 years ago and I still think about how I ruined a beautiful coin I found inside the woods when I was hunting for old bottles. Thanks for sharing this important information about how, not to ruin your old coins.
I hope you and yours, have a awesome blessed day.
Cya! 😺🐟 out!
It definitely looked much better before the water! I can't believe it got that much worse after the oil, I thought after the water step it couldn't lose much more definition but it sure did.
Good information!!! Thanks
Thanks Beau, I'm new to the hobby, and you just helped me to clean my first coin; a George VI 1940 Half Penny. Thank God I found your video before taking a toothbrush and water to it!!
That was a lesson worth remembering. Thanks chigg
thank you,really enjoy these type of videos.
Great video, Chigg! You are the best
I think you are the "Chig" and know exactly what you're talking about.
The coin looked far better before the water or oil.
Great video
It looked better with original patina. Thanks for demonstration. You ruined one coin but saved countless others from being destroyed. Good job.
I agree that the cleaning without the water looks much better. I never shoot water on coppers only silvers in the field. Good info.
Thanks Chig for your valuable info. The coin was so much better before the water.
Al, NJ
Thank you. Will never forget it.
Hi Chigg! That was very enlightening. Your practices make sense on cleaning and/or not cleaning coin finds. In my opinion the first method was the BETTER of the methods. The secondary cleaning methods did wreck the coin. Thank You for the first hand demonstration! Sorry a nice coin was sacrificed t to make the point. I'm sure that the demonstration will help many preserve their finds and be able to appreciate them better after doing a proper cleaning. Anyhow....... Have a Great Day!
Thank you for the tutorial. 👍
👍Really great advice for all👍
I agree with all you are saying. Have sadly discovered for myself the error of putting water or soap and water and scrubbing a coin. Toothpick method works well, sometimes I use a piece of copper wire to scrape if a toothpick is too soft to do the job. Have to be a little more careful with the piece of wire so as not to scratch the base metal.
Good info, thanks.
It’s pretty obvious you’ve been a very successful digger for many years now. Maybe I’ve missed it, but why don’t you do a video on your relic room. I’d love to see it as I’m sure many other viewers would !! Keep it up Chigg !!
Would you want everyone too know what priceless artifacts you have at your house? But having said that his most valuable would probably be in a safe deposit box in a bank.
he’s done one in the past if i remember correctly, i know for sure he’s done the knives and sunglasses he’s found
Great info for a newbie such as I am. Thanks, Chig. Havagudun bud.
I’m new to this hobby so forgive my ignorance. I agree that the no water example looks much better initially but my question is, does using the “face oil” do longer term damage? The oil from our skin is acidic (which is why museum staff wear gloves when handling many metal items) so wouldn’t that do longer term damage to the metal of the coin?
Great Video, I like the first cleaning you did, I stopped cleaning my old copper with water. I only use water in the field on silver. Thanks for sharing.😀
Ive been looking for this thanks
Thx Chigg, you are the best! Chigg's ARMY 4 LIFE
Yup, I’ll be leavin’ the patina! Looks worse after all the scrubbing! Good lesson for us, Chigg. Thanks!
Thank you!
Great video! I use your same method too, works great. That thin layer of dirt silhouetting those minute details is what makes it artifact like. I don't know why people worry about ruining a crusty dug coin anyways, it's your coin, do what you want with it, Cheers!!
Your method is definitely the best.
Chigg, really enjoying the channel. And I agree with you
Wow!!! thanks for the tip!!! I had no idea.
You’re very right chigg cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
I'd say it looked best with just the field cleaning. The oil did help once you "ruined" it with the water. What prevents a coin from continuing to corrode/decay once it's out of the ground though?
Thanks
Much better with NO water. Thanks for sharing. Love your videos.
Great informative video Beau. See ya on the next one.
Mr. Chig, this is a very good video. I can’t agree more…I have put artificial patinas on bronze sculptures for 48 years. The average patina applied to silicon bronze takes several hours to achieve. We use acid combined with water, plus heat at perhaps 220 degrees Fahrenheit. When the desired patina effect is achieved, I do not wash the sculpture. I seal the bronze, when cold, with either spray lacquer or floor wax. The patina resides on the surface and is somewhat locked into the porous casting. I seek to replicate the patina that existed on your coin. And I agree don’t scrub it off, it is part of the antiquity.
Wow, I learned a lot from your demonstration! I found two brittish pennies from 1863 in my garden and cleaned them a little with water and brush, wish I'd seen your video first.
I have some Native American rocks with carvings on them. Do you know if the oil procedure would work to lift the image? If not, any suggestions?
Thank you Chigg. Question - What do you do when the coin comes out with a thick layer of oxidation? Or would you call it calcification? A thick green layer that hardens so that you can't pick it off?
You can tumble it.
Thank you! All the best from Norway..
Thank you Sir for this video---
Subbed for years, thanks
Thank you 😎👍
Great information. You are so right. Uncleaned is best. 👍
Definitely better before. Nice job explaining the difference 👍
For me, what I’ve found determines how I clean. I’m not a hardcore detectorist, in fact, I’ve never been on a major metal detecting trip. I’ve played around in my yard, and some creek beds, and that’s it; what I can say though: if I pulled a a colonial copper, my first instinct WOULD be to clean it. However, knowing how old said coin would be, I feel confident in saying that doing anything OTHER THAN the first steps you’ve shown; would be a major disservice to the coin.
Your so right Beau, I see so many newbies on yt spraying them with water and I cringe. Same thing goes for them wiping a silver coin without spaying them too get the dirt off first. I'm sorry you ruined your king George 11 but it was in a fertlized field when you dug it. So it is what it is. But it did have a good strike on it. Oil can also take away the patina of a coin too. But face oil is the lesser of 2 evils. Thanku for trying too help the new detectorist enjoy the hobby and to help preserve history.
I just ordered the garret at pro through the link in your description and it is my first metal detector. So I'm excited to look for some old coins and stuff. I'm just waiting for it to get here!
Thanks Beau -
Thank you
I'm with you glad you did that video
Thanks Chigg for the information. I like it best, no water. I cringed when you put the water on then toothbrushed it. The first old coin I found, I made that mistake (water and toothbrush) never again. Thanks again. Take care my friend 👍
Chigg, im like you. I don't like cleaning my coins at all, other then just getting the majority of the dirt off with my nails an sometimes a toothpick helps. An like you said, its all in what you like. Or how ever you feel more comfortable in cleaning your coins. Great video chigg. Great points on cleaning our coins when digging them out of the ground. As always safe an happy hunting. Have an awesome week.😁👍👍
Some good tips Chiggs, your Cobalt Ontario bottle connection! That's right it was us that put the bottles in the trees. All the best :-) Brad
I wish I had watched this last week. I have just wrecked a token and bun halfpenny. Not anymore though. Thanks for the info. 😊
One way to look at is that in a sense coins and similar metal objects 'fossilise'. Much like how bones and soft tissues of critters get preserved in stone, the patina on coins displaces the original metal.
When those yahoos then go and scrub the 'dirt' off, they're essentially removing entire parts of what made the object interesting and informative to begin with. It'd be like cleaning fossils with a wire brush.
I think your original video on this same subject was the very first video I watched of yours. I appreciated the info then and I appreciate just as much now. There’s nothing worse than seeing some detail and going too far to the point that nothing is left.
great video- I too used water and olive oil etc years ago when I started out and got a bunch purple buttons ands blank coins!
Love you Chigg!
Great video, again!!! Thank you!!! I am new to coin collecting. I have experimented using an ultrasonic cleaner, plastic basket and solution on some wheat pennies for approx. 480 seconds. The results were satisfactory. The coins kept their toning and the solution had dirt particulates. Also, somewhere I read that old cardboard with sulfur in it can create some toning effects on silver coins. Maybe it will work on copper too? More experiments... I think so.
I made this mistake just today. Thanks for the video
Like the look of the coin when you used the oil from your face. It was the best way to see more detail on it.
Beau, what do you think about using a ultrasonic cleaner, what effect do you think that wold do?
When you put water on them straight out of the hole the high points or relief gets taken off with next layer of dirt. Just like you said take the majority of dirt off and let them dry. Then toothpick or one of those coin pens with the rubber on them work too. 👊👍
Like it before hand , thanks for the info now I know .