Aslan won the debate. Corey can’t say you’re one of the 12 best teams of all time and then say we can’t get top 10 classes that’s hilarious. Like aslan said they couldn’t get top 10 classes with 19 straight wins. The lack of recruiting is the major issue that Corey is missing the transfer portal isn’t like it was a few years ago
“The 2023 orange bowl was not Mike Norvell’s team. That was not even a football team” You do realize you’re saying “I don’t count it because we sucked, because the guys Mike Norvell has been recruiting from High school these past 4 years & not the portal had to play.” Jordan Travis didn’t lose the Orange bowl, neither did the other opt outs, but Mike Norvell surely did & so did this program. Darrell Jackson, Patrick Payton, Justin cryer, Omar Graham, Blake Nickelson, shyheim, AZ Thomas, fentrell, Kevin Knowles, and Conrad hussey all played… not to mention you had kalen, and greedy Vance. Do you not realize they gave up.. 2 touchdowns to Georgia’s backup QB in 10 pass attempts, Milton had 104 yards and 2 TD’s in NINE FN CARRIES, EIGHT PLAYERS averaged 6.4 yards a carry or more, NINE players averaged 10 yards receiving or more, & they had the coordinators son out there playing by the end of the game. That is what happened when the players MIKE NORVELL recruits from High school have to play against an SEC team. Mind you Brock bowers didn’t play. The only difference between that team and now is you added a hand full of bench warmers from bama, a couple of Lb’s and safeties that suck at communication, and DJU. Almost forgot to mention you were relying on Hakeem, jakhi, morlock, derrion, kentron, brock, and an awful offensive line that mostly came back. That team sucked then and that’s literally the same team that sucks now (just with a few guys that also suck added to the mix). So yeah you’re right Corey “that wasn’t a real team” and this team ain’t either & it’s because our coach quietly was building a big pile of 💩 from high school hidden behind the portal success. So what if we could have won without the opt outs. That game counts for this program because it served as turning on the lights of a room to expose a borderline unfixable roach infestation. 13-1 with the 1 standing for 1-7. It is what it is. PS: Y’all keep bringing up that the schedule is so hard. Who cares about the opponents record. We have played a bunch of eh teams compared to the conference we’re begging to be in. If we had an SEC schedule these losses would ALL be like the SMU & Miami games and the little nuggets of hope like “Brock bounced back from 3 turnovers in 3 fn plays & the young guys almost got open, and we ran for 100 yards when you subtract sacks & the defense only gave up 450 yards and only allowed 7 3rd and 10s” would all be gone because it would look worse. Rant is done. Y’all are still by far the best podcast in the business. This is just what I’ll say once I finish my journalism degree and wake up warchant adds it’s third member.
I love your rant!!! My thoughts exactly. It showed that without those star players that opted out then we have nothing OBVIOUSLY. Kissing Mike's ass and Licking his boots. Can't stand it. Jeff gives the best takes and they try to combat him smh
Other schools do not have to go to the playoffs to get good recruiting classes. The gators and cane's have out recruited us the last 2 years with bad records. We need coaches that can evaluate and get kids coached up.
Corey this is Fsu not wake forest. Becoming bowl eligible isnt no where close to being good enough next year. 8-4 should be a down year at Fsu especially in the Acc.
So according to Corey, we are paying a coach 10mil a year guaranteed to hope to get to 6-8 wins. Denying the Orange Bowl doesnt mean it didn't happen. Yall can continue to stick your head into the sand but what the Orange Bowl revealed to me was a program that was in trouble if the star players were absent.
Corey keeps making a lot of excuses. Sure, we are not the top 3 teams... But that doesn't excuse consistently not being able to recruite a top 10 class. Especially in the state of Florida
Guys simplify this. We need a whole new offensive line. Keep the good ones already on the team. The most important things norvell needs to recruit in the offseason is pride, chemistry, discipline, and want to.
Corey lives in fantasy land. Nobody outside of Tallahassee thinks FSU is a top tier program anymore. Mike couldn’t recruit when we were winning and he isn’t going to magically get better after the worst season in decades. He IS NOT going to turn things around here. He is a dead coach walking so I don’t care what happens until he’s gone.
Corey, fsu isn’t what it used to be. Jalen Ramsey is getting older, Jameis didn’t become a star, dalvin is on his last legs, Derwin doesn’t get marketed like he should, Deion the most successful football nole of all time doesn’t claim fsu actively talks down about FSU. A good portion of FSU legends did not have the memorable legacies as pros especially compared to other schools we compete against. 17 year old kids don’t have memories of Telvin & Lamarcus. Most of them wouldn’t even recognize them by a photo. All they know about this program is a 5 star running back named cam Akers wasted his career here by having absolutely awful blocking, bad team after bad team and then we were finally good again and literally nobody outside of Tallahassee cared bc the one special qb we had broke his leg. We lost by 60 points and even the ppl who took up for us couldn’t help but laugh. They just say the fanbase is a bunch of crybabies and dismiss us. Then as if we weren’t being taken as a joke before Mike made ABSOLUTELY SURE that we were the laughingstock of CFB. Ik you love the history of the program, but just think back to Travis Hunter at signing day & KJ boldens face when M Langston asked if he was a nole. And these were guys who were actually fsu fans growing up The perception of fsu is worse than you think especially in the minds of people under 21.
Something that would be oddly encouraging: Norvell absent from the sidelines for the rest of the season because he's on the recruiting trail. Kind of a double win. Don't have to watch Norvell squatting watching us lose. And the potential for a better recruiting class.
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Corey believes in a guy who misjudged a roster so badly? A roster that is the worst team since the pre- Bowden era? Norvell said this was the best roster he ever had? Yea, I’m sure this guy will be back on track in 2025.
Stop down talking Jeff like you did on headlines bc he is telling the truth. Nobody but maybe 2% of the fanbase gives a d*mn about all this pumping sunshine Corey, Ira and more are doing. Most all of us are done with Norvell. He is weak and its obvious he is not capable of making hard decisions. Love you guys and ill still stay subscribed to Warchant but tell the truth... Orange bowl counts believe me bc I live in GA and have to hear it all the time for GA fans.. its embarrassing. Norvell is cooked. He is a stuttering mess. I love my Noles but you guys arent helping. Aside from Jeff. I would take Drew Weatherford and the '06 team over this one anyday!!
'Does Norvell's rebuild have to be near perfect to make FSU right ' Simple answer: Yes. Isn't that what FSU is paying Mike to do? If he cannot get it don, buy him out and get a new coaching staff.
This is BS wtf are yal even talking about now Corey lmao those players quit on Mike in Orange bowl Ga players did not and to them it was even more of a sleight reigning champs. Dont act like that game didnt count and this recruiting by norvell is garbage even with a 12 win season we got zero momentum Miami outrecruited us sucking last 2 years. Enough of this Norvell sucks Jeff knows its over just accept it and put him under FSU standards.
Hate to piss on your cornflakes, but nobody believes in Norvell. Fire the guy and be done with it. You owe the guy 70 million dollars today or 10 months from now.
Florida state is in fact one of the 12 best programs of all time and it’s because of that reason why we shouldn’t have to consistently 13-0 in order to MAYBE get a top 10 recruiting class is unacceptable.
I can't listen to Aslan anymore...sorry. I guess I will have to put Wakeup into the same category as the JCS now and just not listen for the remainder of the season. Great job chasing way one of your most loyal and dedicated supporters and listeners.
Destyn was contributing as a freshman then he got hurt Malik McClain was a true freshman the whole oline played as freshman dj lundy played as a true freshman we do play them
Wahhh wahhh wahhh cry me a river everybody, mike norvell is that dude and you can either ride with, or don’t watch another game until he’s fired. And don’t forget when he’s winning again to give him credit since he gets all the credit for this year’s failure
Really Corey? You believe in Mike Norvell? The dude that chose DJ Dookie over every other QB including 2 talented ones on the roster? The dude who has kept guys like Ron Dugans and Randy Shannon? The guy that gave DJ Dookie infinite second chances? Mike isn't gonna do a single thing. They'll beg for their jobs and he'll keep them like the sap he is.
Idk y buddy think top players are going to want to play for norvell especially since he has never had a top 10 recruiting class, and top transfers choice fsu over other healthy situations 😂
Norvell is a betamale, and his players see it. They are not buying what he is selling. His Dale Carnegie positive pitch isn't working. FSU needs a tough coach who tells it like it is.
Corey is 100 percent accurate college football has changed look at all the teams who turn their program cause of the portal. Even if you sign a guy out of high school he may not be on your roster the next year cause of the portal
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Aslan won the debate. Corey can’t say you’re one of the 12 best teams of all time and then say we can’t get top 10 classes that’s hilarious. Like aslan said they couldn’t get top 10 classes with 19 straight wins.
The lack of recruiting is the major issue that Corey is missing the transfer portal isn’t like it was a few years ago
“The 2023 orange bowl was not Mike Norvell’s team. That was not even a football team”
You do realize you’re saying “I don’t count it because we sucked, because the guys Mike Norvell has been recruiting from High school these past 4 years & not the portal had to play.”
Jordan Travis didn’t lose the Orange bowl, neither did the other opt outs, but Mike Norvell surely did & so did this program.
Darrell Jackson, Patrick Payton, Justin cryer, Omar Graham, Blake Nickelson, shyheim, AZ Thomas, fentrell, Kevin Knowles, and Conrad hussey all played… not to mention you had kalen, and greedy Vance.
Do you not realize they gave up..
2 touchdowns to Georgia’s backup QB in 10 pass attempts, Milton had 104 yards and 2 TD’s in NINE FN CARRIES, EIGHT PLAYERS averaged 6.4 yards a carry or more, NINE players averaged 10 yards receiving or more, & they had the coordinators son out there playing by the end of the game.
That is what happened when the players MIKE NORVELL recruits from High school have to play against an SEC team. Mind you Brock bowers didn’t play.
The only difference between that team and now is you added a hand full of bench warmers from bama, a couple of Lb’s and safeties that suck at communication, and DJU.
Almost forgot to mention you were relying on Hakeem, jakhi, morlock, derrion, kentron, brock, and an awful offensive line that mostly came back.
That team sucked then and that’s literally the same team that sucks now (just with a few guys that also suck added to the mix).
So yeah you’re right Corey “that wasn’t a real team” and this team ain’t either & it’s because our coach quietly was building a big pile of 💩 from high school hidden behind the portal success. So what if we could have won without the opt outs. That game counts for this program because it served as turning on the lights of a room to expose a borderline unfixable roach infestation. 13-1 with the 1 standing for 1-7. It is what it is.
PS: Y’all keep bringing up that the schedule is so hard. Who cares about the opponents record. We have played a bunch of eh teams compared to the conference we’re begging to be in. If we had an SEC schedule these losses would ALL be like the SMU & Miami games and the little nuggets of hope like “Brock bounced back from 3 turnovers in 3 fn plays & the young guys almost got open, and we ran for 100 yards when you subtract sacks & the defense only gave up 450 yards and only allowed 7 3rd and 10s” would all be gone because it would look worse.
Rant is done. Y’all are still by far the best podcast in the business. This is just what I’ll say once I finish my journalism degree and wake up warchant adds it’s third member.
I love your rant!!! My thoughts exactly. It showed that without those star players that opted out then we have nothing OBVIOUSLY. Kissing Mike's ass and Licking his boots. Can't stand it. Jeff gives the best takes and they try to combat him smh
You deserve a mic not all these crooks talking and sending out false hope 😅
Other schools do not have to go to the playoffs to get good recruiting classes. The gators and cane's have out recruited us the last 2 years with bad records. We need coaches that can evaluate and get kids coached up.
Corey this is Fsu not wake forest. Becoming bowl eligible isnt no where close to being good enough next year. 8-4 should be a down year at Fsu especially in the Acc.
So according to Corey, we are paying a coach 10mil a year guaranteed to hope to get to 6-8 wins. Denying the Orange Bowl doesnt mean it didn't happen. Yall can continue to stick your head into the sand but what the Orange Bowl revealed to me was a program that was in trouble if the star players were absent.
Agreed!! They are trying to change the narrative. Jeff is the only one giving it to us straight.
Those players are the ones on the field this season.
Your eyes don’t lie
Corey keeps making a lot of excuses. Sure, we are not the top 3 teams... But that doesn't excuse consistently not being able to recruite a top 10 class. Especially in the state of Florida
Guys simplify this. We need a whole new offensive line. Keep the good ones already on the team. The most important things norvell needs to recruit in the offseason is pride, chemistry, discipline, and want to.
corey says we are a top 12 college football program but can’t explain why we can’t bring in a top 10 recruiting class in the past 3-4 years😭
Reason is coach norvell doesn't recruit well. A good recruiter would look great at FSU. It's an easy sell for recruits, unless you're norvell
We are NOT a top 100 team rn lmao
Licking Norvells boots....
Because the warchant staff doesn’t want to acknowledge there has been zero player development here under this staff
Miami wasn’t even relevant for 20 years and look at them now that they have a good recruiter
Corey lives in fantasy land. Nobody outside of Tallahassee thinks FSU is a top tier program anymore. Mike couldn’t recruit when we were winning and he isn’t going to magically get better after the worst season in decades. He IS NOT going to turn things around here. He is a dead coach walking so I don’t care what happens until he’s gone.
Corey, fsu isn’t what it used to be. Jalen Ramsey is getting older, Jameis didn’t become a star, dalvin is on his last legs, Derwin doesn’t get marketed like he should, Deion the most successful football nole of all time doesn’t claim fsu actively talks down about FSU. A good portion of FSU legends did not have the memorable legacies as pros especially compared to other schools we compete against. 17 year old kids don’t have memories of Telvin & Lamarcus. Most of them wouldn’t even recognize them by a photo. All they know about this program is a 5 star running back named cam Akers wasted his career here by having absolutely awful blocking, bad team after bad team and then we were finally good again and literally nobody outside of Tallahassee cared bc the one special qb we had broke his leg. We lost by 60 points and even the ppl who took up for us couldn’t help but laugh. They just say the fanbase is a bunch of crybabies and dismiss us. Then as if we weren’t being taken as a joke before Mike made ABSOLUTELY SURE that we were the laughingstock of CFB. Ik you love the history of the program, but just think back to Travis Hunter at signing day & KJ boldens face when M Langston asked if he was a nole. And these were guys who were actually fsu fans growing up The perception of fsu is worse than you think especially in the minds of people under 21.
Agreed!!!! It's unfortunate but yes. 100x yes..
Something that would be oddly encouraging: Norvell absent from the sidelines for the rest of the season because he's on the recruiting trail. Kind of a double win. Don't have to watch Norvell squatting watching us lose. And the potential for a better recruiting class.
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What on earth have you 2 seen in Glenn to make anyone come after him.
I don’t get it
Corey believes in a guy who misjudged a roster so badly? A roster that is the worst team since the pre- Bowden era?
Norvell said this was the best roster he ever had?
Yea, I’m sure this guy will be back on track in 2025.
Stop down talking Jeff like you did on headlines bc he is telling the truth. Nobody but maybe 2% of the fanbase gives a d*mn about all this pumping sunshine Corey, Ira and more are doing. Most all of us are done with Norvell. He is weak and its obvious he is not capable of making hard decisions. Love you guys and ill still stay subscribed to Warchant but tell the truth... Orange bowl counts believe me bc I live in GA and have to hear it all the time for GA fans.. its embarrassing. Norvell is cooked. He is a stuttering mess. I love my Noles but you guys arent helping. Aside from Jeff. I would take Drew Weatherford and the '06 team over this one anyday!!
FSU’s time has come and gone. Not the same as it was fellas
'Does Norvell's rebuild have to be near perfect to make FSU right ' Simple answer: Yes. Isn't that what FSU is paying Mike to do? If he cannot get it don, buy him out and get a new coaching staff.
. maybe overall FSUs program isn't as premium as this channel seems to think year to year
This is BS wtf are yal even talking about now Corey lmao those players quit on Mike in Orange bowl Ga players did not and to them it was even more of a sleight reigning champs. Dont act like that game didnt count and this recruiting by norvell is garbage even with a 12 win season we got zero momentum Miami outrecruited us sucking last 2 years. Enough of this Norvell sucks Jeff knows its over just accept it and put him under FSU standards.
Yes!!! Great take.
Someone must've reached out and told you guys to turn down the rhetoric....no good...he deserves to be fired
lol
Hope is not a strategy
My favorite stock market phrase
Hate to piss on your cornflakes, but nobody believes in Norvell.
Fire the guy and be done with it. You owe the guy 70 million dollars today or 10 months from now.
fsu isn’t beat North Carolina or UF . Please stop. scoring 14 points a game fsu might not win another game this year
Nice whistling Aslan. Kudos brother.
Well Corey I do believe you're correct. This is a one off. And with Mike there is certainly recourse. My op
Florida state is in fact one of the 12 best programs of all time and it’s because of that reason why we shouldn’t have to consistently 13-0 in order to MAYBE get a top 10 recruiting class is unacceptable.
These shows are definitely better when we stink at football 😂 That said, I want to win again.
I can't listen to Aslan anymore...sorry. I guess I will have to put Wakeup into the same category as the JCS now and just not listen for the remainder of the season.
Great job chasing way one of your most loyal and dedicated supporters and listeners.
Too much positivity from you guys
Destyn was contributing as a freshman then he got hurt Malik McClain was a true freshman the whole oline played as freshman dj lundy played as a true freshman we do play them
One thing for certain is there’s always gonna be an fsu Homer denying the OB happened and how that wasn’t mikes team 😂😂😂
Go Noles I'm here for my therapy session
I just do not think he will fire anyone
At this point, it makes no sense to force Norvell out. Let his contract play out.
Wahhh wahhh wahhh cry me a river everybody, mike norvell is that dude and you can either ride with, or don’t watch another game until he’s fired. And don’t forget when he’s winning again to give him credit since he gets all the credit for this year’s failure
I've been watching since our last National title this show I've never heard you guys sorta arguing still Go Noles 😞
Will we lose Solomon Thomas and the offensive line recruits if Alex Atkins is fired?
Really Corey? You believe in Mike Norvell? The dude that chose DJ Dookie over every other QB including 2 talented ones on the roster? The dude who has kept guys like Ron Dugans and Randy Shannon? The guy that gave DJ Dookie infinite second chances? Mike isn't gonna do a single thing. They'll beg for their jobs and he'll keep them like the sap he is.
Idk y buddy think top players are going to want to play for norvell especially since he has never had a top 10 recruiting class, and top transfers choice fsu over other healthy situations 😂
Norvell is a betamale, and his players see it. They are not buying what he is selling. His Dale Carnegie positive pitch isn't working. FSU needs a tough coach who tells it like it is.
With the 9th pick of the 2025 NFL draft, the Dallas Cowboys select, DJU, qb, Florida state University
Corey is 100 percent accurate college football has changed look at all the teams who turn their program cause of the portal. Even if you sign a guy out of high school he may not be on your roster the next year cause of the portal
Absolutely