@kolz4ever1980 The moment Elidibus said, "Wait, I saw you there...in Elpis." I was hooked. I kept questioning it to my own stream chat and wondered what he meant. It stuck with me. Thus why I enjoyed and looked forward to the Pandaemonium raids and storyline. I was even more elated that they gave Themis voice acting for the final part of the quest between you and him. It really came full circle. My only question now is...why is Elidibus so much shorter? Maybe the character in this video is just tall. Now that I think about it, Themis was the same height as my max height Raen main and she mightve been the same height as him here in this scene. I'll have to rewatch the cutscenes to be sure.
As someone who suffers from dissociative amnesia, Elidibus's story hit me like a truck. He didn't even wish to recall his memories because deep down he knew they were too painful, especially after how much he's changed (in Tales of the Shadows, it's shown that he was a very kind and loving person who adored everyone). But one day he did, and at the same time it both filled the void inside him and broke him to pieces. It was a bittersweet moment, but it breaks my heart how crestfallen he sounds in this cutscene, bearing the burdens of his whole world once again. They chose him to be Zodiark's heart because he was their heart, who wanted nothing more than to protect the ones he held dear. And it broke him beyond recognition of the kind and loving boy he once was. But despite everything the Convocation put him through, thrusting their burdens onto a child, he loved them to the end. Rest in peace my poor boy ♥︎
I believe he was not originally meant to be the Heart of Zodiark, but he offered himself in the place of the eldest of the convocation. I forgot their name, D something. I believe it was mentioned somewhere in game, and on the wiki
@@umbriumbrella3491 It was originally going to be Loghrif (Gaia), but since her and Mitron were a couple, Mitron objected. Elidibus then decided to take the burden upon himself.
5:40 Ohhhhh! With his memories returning, Elidibus recalls meeting the WoL during the Pandemonium storyline, something he later forgets when his memories fray after becoming a primal. Very clever...
Also related to this, this recontexualizes 5.3 when Emet saved us vs Elidibus. He didn’t do it only because we are Azem. He did it also because he regained his memories of us on Elpis after returning to the star
I was glad that we "freed" him from the tower. To me that was what made Elidibus' end in ShB sadder than Emet's was that Elidibus didn't get to return to the lifestream with his loved ones and friends....but now he finally does.
It’s always been the general theme for the Ancients, but I like to associate the Neath Dark Waters track to Elidibus. Because of To the Edge, and now because of this :’) Tbh when Neath Dark Waters (piano) is made as the background music of Mare Lamentorum, I’ve always seen it as fitting due to the place where Zodiark is nested, and where Eli often lingered, as His Heart. I believe Eli spend no little time on the moon. It’s really poetic ^^
Man I really hope we somehow find a way to bring all these guys back, especially after 6.3 and Pandaemonium. Elidibus, Emet-Selch, Hythlodaeus and heck even Lahabrea or Erichthonios are great characters that should be a part of stories to come. Venat may not return for obvious story reasons but we should at least get Elidibus, Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeus back.
As much as I'd love for the same, that kind of event will unfortunately contradict the message they've been trying to tell, or even make folly of the Ancients' strife, struggle and sacrifice. The WoL must learn from the past, so that they may pave a way for the future. That's why Hades entrusted us the legacy of the Ancients and the role of Azem. That's why he bid us to remember them. That's why Venat chose us as her champion. And finally, that's why Themis brought us all the way back to Elpis. All to secure a future for the star. Their story may be over, but now they can rest in peace knowing that they have a worthy successor for Etheirys.
@@koko-hh2bq I think the creators said they will come back. Not with their original, reality warping powers, but they will be back. They'll simply reincarnate and perhaps we'll see them popping from a different shard, seeing as time between shards varies in its speed.
Unfortunately, it would fundamentally break their story to do so. More so, it would make light of their valor and sacrifices. Theirs is a tragedy by nature. Its better to let them rest.
After rewatching this scene, I'm still unsure why our aether was so thin. Was it because of the time and space we jumped or was it because we're sundered? Or is it a combination?
Elidibus' voice acting is so incredible. He makes me cry. But I recently learned that the VA is Alex from Misfits, whose character's peen got swapped for a fanny
I really fucking hate how we just casually went back in time for Pandemonium when we were lead to believe it was a one time thing. Kinda ruins this moment in my opinion. Plus, wouldn't we be able to tell Venat about everything you found out after you beat the msq? Idk man, it's stupid
The Studium questlines are partially predicated on the fact you have open access to Elpis. Venat tells you it is dangerous to stay longer, doesn't mean you don't have the ability to get back, just like with the First. And even if you don't, once you are attuned to the place, a powerful item like a Convocation crystal drawing you back seems just fine. Did you think there would be no more storyline use for Elpis? That they would leave the zone unused for anything for the rest of the 6. cycle? Ridiculous. And what would you tell her even if she is still there? That you won? It's over, you succeeded, what point would there be? It wouldn't change anything.
I understand where you’re coming from but at the end of the day it’s video game logic, if you were to slam this one instance of it you need to slam the 1000000 other instances of game logic in this video game story. To me it’s no worse than all the other crazy impossible ex machina shit that happens in the story constantly I guess is what I’m saying. but I also agree it makes no sense
We were never lead to believe it to be a one time thing. When, in the MSQ, did we interact with Elidibus in Elpis? Never. However. Pandæmonium, where Elidibus is literally the person who CALLS you there, makes sense with his memory of us on Elpis.
Dude, they explained like four times over that we cannot fuck up the past to try and prevent the Final Days. We can't go back and alter the past, because the WoL has to be able to return to the future he came from. Going back to Elpis was only about finding out what caused the Final Days and setting in motion the Hydaelyn/sundering plan, nothing more. Elidibus says it *in this cutscene*, Venat says it, Hermes says it.
It closes the time loop. We went back to Elpis because Eldibus said we did and he only knows we did because we met him after going back for something else which we only did because we had already gone back once before.
![Thou Must Live, Die, And Know [LV87 MSQ CUTSCENE]](/img/n.gif)
I love how 6.4 Pandaemonium raid storyline brings this all to a full circle. He was truly meant to be the WoL's best friend in another life.
The long term story telling is really good how it connects all together and how it branches out.
Oh how long have we come from meeting him in The Waking Sands... who would have known back then... not even devs probably.
@kolz4ever1980 The moment Elidibus said, "Wait, I saw you there...in Elpis." I was hooked. I kept questioning it to my own stream chat and wondered what he meant. It stuck with me. Thus why I enjoyed and looked forward to the Pandaemonium raids and storyline. I was even more elated that they gave Themis voice acting for the final part of the quest between you and him. It really came full circle.
My only question now is...why is Elidibus so much shorter? Maybe the character in this video is just tall. Now that I think about it, Themis was the same height as my max height Raen main and she mightve been the same height as him here in this scene. I'll have to rewatch the cutscenes to be sure.
8:10 “Will you still entrust your life to your foe?”
“No, but I would to a friend ❤️”
As someone who suffers from dissociative amnesia, Elidibus's story hit me like a truck. He didn't even wish to recall his memories because deep down he knew they were too painful, especially after how much he's changed (in Tales of the Shadows, it's shown that he was a very kind and loving person who adored everyone). But one day he did, and at the same time it both filled the void inside him and broke him to pieces. It was a bittersweet moment, but it breaks my heart how crestfallen he sounds in this cutscene, bearing the burdens of his whole world once again. They chose him to be Zodiark's heart because he was their heart, who wanted nothing more than to protect the ones he held dear. And it broke him beyond recognition of the kind and loving boy he once was. But despite everything the Convocation put him through, thrusting their burdens onto a child, he loved them to the end. Rest in peace my poor boy ♥︎
I believe he was not originally meant to be the Heart of Zodiark, but he offered himself in the place of the eldest of the convocation. I forgot their name, D something. I believe it was mentioned somewhere in game, and on the wiki
@@umbriumbrella3491 omg that's even sadder
@@umbriumbrella3491 it was originally gonna be Gaia, but he volunteered.
@@umbriumbrella3491 It was originally going to be Loghrif (Gaia), but since her and Mitron were a couple, Mitron objected. Elidibus then decided to take the burden upon himself.
5:40 Ohhhhh! With his memories returning, Elidibus recalls meeting the WoL during the Pandemonium storyline, something he later forgets when his memories fray after becoming a primal. Very clever...
That makes so much sense now...
Also related to this, this recontexualizes 5.3 when Emet saved us vs Elidibus. He didn’t do it only because we are Azem. He did it also because he regained his memories of us on Elpis after returning to the star
@@SevoraLF There's another theory that emet put a piece of himself into the crystal when he created it
One of the most underrated performances in the game. What a haunting voice
"And a truth... that fills my heart..."
Holy SHIT Themis
I was glad that we "freed" him from the tower. To me that was what made Elidibus' end in ShB sadder than Emet's was that Elidibus didn't get to return to the lifestream with his loved ones and friends....but now he finally does.
He is the bravest hero of the story, rest well little child
Intentional or not, I like how he clutches his head when he remembers seeing you in Elpis, because you collided with his head
That song gets me every time, especially the way it's played in this expansion.
It’s always been the general theme for the Ancients, but I like to associate the Neath Dark Waters track to Elidibus. Because of To the Edge, and now because of this :’) Tbh when Neath Dark Waters (piano) is made as the background music of Mare Lamentorum, I’ve always seen it as fitting due to the place where Zodiark is nested, and where Eli often lingered, as His Heart. I believe Eli spend no little time on the moon. It’s really poetic ^^
The ones I love and long to see again are waiting in that promised land 😞
I really like Elidibus's voice actor
Elidibus's words about meeting you in Elpis makes sense once you do the Pandaemonium quests.
To me, he was actually the true, original and the first, Warrior of Light.
Not just of Light, but a Warrior of Light and Darkness both. As it is job to keep the balance, he wields both in equal measure.
rewatching all these endwalker clips makes me want to play the story again, new game plus cant come fast enough.
I BAWLED LIKE A BABY when he said sending you to the past will kill him. Why Square. Why!!?
I really adored Elidibus. TT v TT This poor man has suffered a lot. TT v TT
Such a brave little child. I'm glad he got to go back to the aether to meet his loved ones
He is not a child he is an adult,he was just a smaller Amourite then the rest.
@@sephirothcrescent5768 they said that the position of emissary was reserved for the Young.
9:50 Chills. How it feels playing FFXIV after 6.0
Man fuck sake. Its been a year. I keep coming back to ffxIV story weekly. Its one of the best stories ever told
It's like Code Vein with how perfectly they time the music to fit the moment
Your wol looks like tom holland
fitting, considering the ShB commercial
I still can not believe i be feeling for Elidibus and loving his voice so much when started in ARR.. I had to pick the dialogue I am sorry
He was a good guy after all
Elidibus's DLC on sale in 6.1 LOL :P
Elidibus social link coming in 6.1!!!
Man I really hope we somehow find a way to bring all these guys back, especially after 6.3 and Pandaemonium.
Elidibus, Emet-Selch, Hythlodaeus and heck even Lahabrea or Erichthonios are great characters that should be a part of stories to come. Venat may not return for obvious story reasons but we should at least get Elidibus, Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeus back.
As much as I'd love for the same, that kind of event will unfortunately contradict the message they've been trying to tell, or even make folly of the Ancients' strife, struggle and sacrifice.
The WoL must learn from the past, so that they may pave a way for the future. That's why Hades entrusted us the legacy of the Ancients and the role of Azem. That's why he bid us to remember them. That's why Venat chose us as her champion. And finally, that's why Themis brought us all the way back to Elpis. All to secure a future for the star.
Their story may be over, but now they can rest in peace knowing that they have a worthy successor for Etheirys.
@@koko-hh2bq I think the creators said they will come back. Not with their original, reality warping powers, but they will be back. They'll simply reincarnate and perhaps we'll see them popping from a different shard, seeing as time between shards varies in its speed.
Unfortunately, it would fundamentally break their story to do so. More so, it would make light of their valor and sacrifices. Theirs is a tragedy by nature. Its better to let them rest.
I somehow feel like dedicating the song called "Space Oddity" for Elidibus for some reason. TT v TT
Your Character looks like Tom Holland
After rewatching this scene, I'm still unsure why our aether was so thin. Was it because of the time and space we jumped or was it because we're sundered? Or is it a combination?
It’s because we travelled a huge time back in the past. That’s why we had a thin form of aether there
The WoL is still "tethered" to their own time. Going that far back stretches their aether extremely thin
Elidibus' voice acting is so incredible. He makes me cry. But I recently learned that the VA is Alex from Misfits, whose character's peen got swapped for a fanny
I really fucking hate how we just casually went back in time for Pandemonium when we were lead to believe it was a one time thing. Kinda ruins this moment in my opinion. Plus, wouldn't we be able to tell Venat about everything you found out after you beat the msq? Idk man, it's stupid
The Studium questlines are partially predicated on the fact you have open access to Elpis. Venat tells you it is dangerous to stay longer, doesn't mean you don't have the ability to get back, just like with the First. And even if you don't, once you are attuned to the place, a powerful item like a Convocation crystal drawing you back seems just fine. Did you think there would be no more storyline use for Elpis? That they would leave the zone unused for anything for the rest of the 6. cycle? Ridiculous. And what would you tell her even if she is still there? That you won? It's over, you succeeded, what point would there be? It wouldn't change anything.
I understand where you’re coming from but at the end of the day it’s video game logic, if you were to slam this one instance of it you need to slam the 1000000 other instances of game logic in this video game story. To me it’s no worse than all the other crazy impossible ex machina shit that happens in the story constantly I guess is what I’m saying. but I also agree it makes no sense
We were never lead to believe it to be a one time thing. When, in the MSQ, did we interact with Elidibus in Elpis? Never. However. Pandæmonium, where Elidibus is literally the person who CALLS you there, makes sense with his memory of us on Elpis.
Dude, they explained like four times over that we cannot fuck up the past to try and prevent the Final Days. We can't go back and alter the past, because the WoL has to be able to return to the future he came from. Going back to Elpis was only about finding out what caused the Final Days and setting in motion the Hydaelyn/sundering plan, nothing more.
Elidibus says it *in this cutscene*, Venat says it, Hermes says it.
It closes the time loop. We went back to Elpis because Eldibus said we did and he only knows we did because we met him after going back for something else which we only did because we had already gone back once before.
Finally! He did something useful for once
Such a wonderful story, partly ruined by their inability to use time travel as a plot device effectively.