@@MegaAndrew1213 it honestly was looking back at the lackluster games in semis and finals. two 3-2s, 1 3-0 against Korean, 3-1 Fnatic all in quarters. This game would have flipped the narrative of whether or not LPL was really better than LCK. 3-2 for KT means (probably) that korea, even battered by MSI, are still the best region in the world. After battling their way through GRF, and even with them being the last korean seed (something we rarely see), KR still denies any region (outside of EU S1) a worlds victory.
@@oddfind KT were LCK Summer Champions, the 1st seed, not last. Korea clearly dominated since 2013 until 2017, excluding MSI 2015 and Rift Rivals 2017, where the LPL only fell behind LCK in almost every year and tournament, except for WC 2015 that had a timed lane swap strat that completely played against the LPL playstyle and they lost against almost everyone, once that was removed and the LPL was rebuilding and trying to master the macro game, they returned to their 2nd place only behind LCK in 2016. 2018, it was the year the LPL started to show they've become better than the LCK, All Star 2017, MSI, Asian Games, Rift Rivals, WC 2018 group stage and quarterfinals, while other regions showed they could compete with them that year, although, EU mainly has G2 performing for the whole region, but, there's not a clear EU dominance over KR, Gen.G was beaten in the group stage 0-2, while the rest even in 2019, they just went 1-1 in every LCK Vs LEC match, also, AFs 1-1 G2 in 2018, and GRF had dominant victories, 2-1, over G2 in 2019. NA went back to show they can't compete against KR and it was their only good team at almost every year, and even C9 lost once against GEN in 2018. What I noticed from LCK teams, after their loss at Rift Rivals 2017, it's they felt the rivalry with the LPL, before that event they were saying they don't have a rival. Until this day, I see they take it personal while playing against LPL teams, so, you can see their matches have that vibe of being "played to the death", thus, they become way competive. When they face other regions, they give it a different approach. The LPL definitely become the best region until this point, pre WC 2020, they could lose this World Championship, but, still they have the most competitive league, they can find local talent, Bin, Huanfeng, Jiumeng, ppgod, yuyanjia in this year, they can spot talent from elsewhere, too, and they can improve the level of most import players, as it happened to Deft, while EU has G2 doing as they wish in LEC, always followed by FNC as 2nd, KR always has the same teams or players at the top, even when RNG and EDG were the face of the LPL, they had to go through a fierce competition that could also come from the bottom LPL teams. You know when the attitude changed? It was after WC 2017 Semifinals, although, it was only Uzi's words, it later got reflected in how the LPL teams performed, he said they all regretted how they played those semifinals, that they restricted themselves from playing the way they knew and they tried to play as others did, but, they were no longer going to do that and now, they're going to play as always. 957 more or less said in an interview at All Star 2017 semifinals before facing the KR team about facing KR before the final, the rival doesn't matter, you have to win against whoever is in front of you, if you want to take it all. Rift Rivals 2019 was a stepback from this, the teams that played there, except for iG and Doinb, the rest didn't play outside of the LPL before, it looked like facing a different environment affected their confidence, they played very uncharacteristically, while iG again showed that year they were in decline, redeeming themselves against GRF at WC quarterfinals. FPX, later in Rift Rivals final, showed how those teams, loss or win, should have played, instead of what they did.
KT didn't choke, iG were simply better than them. KZ and LZ didn't choke either, RNG were better than KZ and SSG completely knew how to beat LZ in 2017, which they mostly did for almost one year.
@@ankaylance8279 when things drag to a game 5, we can all conclude that it is an equal match more or less. Choking is real. I still could not believe how G2 beat RNG either. I guess that's how World works. Really unpredictable.
45:26 JackeyLove with the huge, game changing play and that allowed iG to get the Baron and Elder Dragon later. 55:27 Ning with a great outplay with his carry build Kindred, full of decisiveness to finally close the series
Hann Soo no that’s a joke. You miss the ending The ending is that Rookie came back from KT room and his teammates asked him what the coach said then rookie told them “I don’t know because he speaks Korean”. XD implying that rookie speaks very very good Chinese and of course he is putting 100% effort and definitely not gonna troll.
You should give credit where's due and you should admit that if it wasn't for the rest of iG, particularly JackeyLove who finally turned around the match in favour of iG, TheShy would have lost by himself this set 5 against KT, he didn't play Sion well and he was just losing life and provoking the death of Baolan at 44:37 who went to save him after his misexecution, which wasn't the only one he did there. Bonus: This Ning's on-point decision and play 55:30
Score underwhelmed. Highest rated jungler. Hey I'm actually his fan but I knew his mechanics are bad and his team fighting is really bad. He's no playmaker and he doesn't help Deft in team fights. He just likes to sit back in team fights and pray for his teammates to do well instead of setting them up. Bad team fighting is a sign of bad micro and mechanics and instant decisions. Score likes early game with no action so he can just use his brain, which he is best at. Has clear signs of strength and weaknesses.
So happy that the Koreans didn’t win again. They are always winning worlds and it’s time for something new. Sadly I doubt NA will beat the next Korean team cuz it’s NA. So hopefully EU can do it.
I feel like, overall, the changes riot made to vision and the vision game (most recently the jungle ward item) hurt the koreans with their makro style a lot
After PapaSmithy said that, some people thought the same, of course, that affected in part the LCK playstyle, which could deny ganks and fights because of it, but, there are other factors and changes to the meta which played against them, see for example PVB from Vietnam, they had a good macro control, but, they never were ready to teamfight, which was a comeback tool in this meta, then, they threw away their leads because of losing at teamfights, same for Korea, they wanted to play slow with macro control, then, once they were outpaced, they couldn't deal with all the aggression, also, they're not capable to make calls like RNG did against KZ at MSI or China did to Korea at Asian Games or iG did to KT on this last set, also, LPL can engage in lane duels, while LCK want to avoid those. EDG also fell into that trap of slowing down matches while they had the lead in quarterfinals, then, they threw possible victories there by playing scattered and trying to push 3 lanes at the same time and then getting caught in unfavourable teamfights, meanwhile iG, in this last set versus KT, decided to prioritise the laning phase, they wanted to play a more slow match, but, the difference with EDG was iG were ready to teamfight and outplay the enemy team and they never let KT command in any aspect. This was a meta which rewarded execution, mechanical plays and proactivity, that was clear in Spring and it was the reason why KZ were stomping everybody else in the LCK, they were the only proactive team there, AFs and KT defied them in that regard, yet KZ outplayed them, but, again, KZ like other LCK teams, they couldn't make that kind of unexpected and decisive calls LPL teams do, another difference it's LPL junglers can take different paths to gank, while LCK junglers have more common and predictable routes. Even in the LCK some teams lost because of the other team engaged when they thought they weren't going to do it, AFs Vs KZ at the LCK Spring final, it's one example, while AFs just were prepared to retreat from a skirmish where nobody died, KZ decided to continue the fights and they chased AFs almost from nexus to nexus, a lot of LCK teams lost like that in Spring and Summer, while some just were trying to place a ward, the other team could be ready to catch them and destroy them. The mindset of LCK teams and how they've learned to play the game since 2015, they can't replicate those aggressive plays, nor deal with them, KT Vs GRF was a final with many aggressive plays from both sides, but, at the same time, they just were provoking throw after throw to both teams.
Honestly, what is this draft from kt? You have your superstar toplaner on a noncarry, and you put your superstar jungler on a pick that's more or less useless against 60 percent of the enemy team... I love IG and this series is legendary, but Kt could've won this.
Because, iG had better mechanics and decision making, also, showcased on those unexpected calls and plays, 45:32 most teams wouldn't expect an ADC to do what JackeyLove did there and that was even a 4vs5, and they made outplays, too, like this one from Ning at 55:28. Those are some characteristics of the LPL playstyle, having the willingness to fight, move forward and always trying to find window opportunities to beat and outplay the other team, like how RNG beat KZ with that great and decisive call at the MSI final, Uzi also had a match where they finally beat JDG in the LPL, he got an unofficial quadra in an extended teamfight which was 4v5 in favour of JDG, he went alone in a 1v3 to finally get a 0x5 Ace.
Ning, TheShy, Rookie have better team fighting and micro. Score has always been bad at team fighting (upside good pathing but bad mechanics). Smeb isnt a good team fighter but he benefitted a lot in Tigers doing the set up and playmaking for him, especially Pray, Kuro, Peanut or Gorilla. They were selfless and let Smeb shine a lot. Score isn't the kind of playmaking jungler. KT only has Mata as playmaker. The jungle top doesn't also help Deft do his thing in team fights. Only mata helps him. If KT played through Deft like EDG did, they'd be better team fighters but the topside do their own thing.
Korea used to be the best at it, like SKT in 2013 and SSW in 2014, while LPL always had the best teamfighting skills. In the LPL, if you're not good at mechanics, micro game, fast decision-making in split seconds and your team is not good at teamfights, you have no future there. After 2015, LCK focused on mastering the macro game, vision control, playing around farming and objectives and learned to deny teamfights, too. Once the meta moved to a more micro game, mechanics and teamfights and the LPL mastered the macro game around that same time, while they also integrated it to their traditional playstyle, well, you already saw the result of all of it. Taking aside the times, the LPL teams and players certainly didn't play well, usually against LCK teams in the past, with the style SKT and the LCK imposed, they could fall behind through the macro game, farming, wave control, etc. and then, they weren't able to do anything, while also the vision and players denied them teamfights, even Shen or Tahm Kench used to work to make them look hopeless. LPL players also learned how to play against that, later.
Score could have really won this series if he didn't choke. KT have worse solo laners in lane and team fight and a jungler who can't be playmaker after early game and peel for Deft in team fights. KT is solely relying on Mata to be the playmaker just like in Griffin finals. I love Score but tf, he underperformed so much in this series. You can't just be smart early game with pathing and do nothing after. Team fight is about micro instant decisions and that's been his weakness as jungler aside from smiting. That's why he was so passive as adc. He let's others be the playmakers but jungle isn't that kind of role. You have to have guts and have to sacrifice and let your teammates shine and be the playmaker. Score is the kind of jungler who just wants to play back. That's why Deft shines more in KZ than he did in KT, they have worse players but not selfish who let's Deft shine.
53:35 No flash or Zhonyas from smeb. Didn't even try to use it until the game was basically over. He's such a massive choker any team with him as top laner will never win worlds or live up to their potential.
Smeb only had 1 good game, against Duke. Ucal is no better, outclassed entire series by Rookie even with 5 mid bans. Score also invisible really with no playmaking and bad team fighting. There is no question why KT would lose. IG has better solo lanes and the jungler had more guts than Score and was a playmaker. Wasn't at all afraid by Score.
They finally beat kr at worlds, but when nobody cares anymor league, not even the good kr teams cares, no skt no ssg, most players are playing fortnite, cod bo 4, and red dead redemption, who cares league of legends anymore
Love when people make excuses for themselves and they want to live in denial. Of course, you'd be saying the opposite if a Korean team would have won the WC. Good Korean teams? haha, you're just basing that on previous tournament performances, that's like saying Samsung was a great team in 2015, which they weren't, just because SSW and SSB happened in 2014 and it's not they didn't care, it was they reached their limit and they couldn't move further. Yes, mention any video game and think they're all esports (which by the way, some even just watch those while they don't play the actual game), just because they're video games. Also, who cares about basketball? Most of the world play football, right?
@@nearlight1315 I don't play league anymore and I know a lot of people that stop playing league, stop following the competitive and despite their poor seasons updating it coincides with a poor World championship lvl, like fnatic getting to a final I mean LOL, it doesn't happen since season 1, reddit rumors of league being dead , and i can continue with more statements, not excuses, they're facts. Sorry if you just discover league, or you're been playing it since alot of time ago, but league isn't the same as one time was.
@@juanescutia5845 You just repeated the same point with different words. By the way, year after year, Reddit say League is dead and they complain about everything, so, like the rest of what you say, that's all irrelevant. I also love the classic "I know people who did this, now, the world's ending", of course, things aren't going to remain the same, especially on these things, yet, that doesn't matter, people can leave others might join and even if they don't, things will go on. When I said excuses, I didn't mean in relation to the game, I was talking about these poor arguments of why Korea lost, like saying the teams don't care, even if League was dead, they still had something to win for themselves this whole year.
@@nearlight1315 Hmmm maybe you're right, but i mean there's alot of coincidence, the NA base players going to games like fortnite, fortnite competitive is still improving, but now we can just see NA and EU fortnite, but in KR there's fornite competitive too, but epic games are not riot and they can't do like a world championship as of now, but that doesn't mean KR players aren't going to other games too thus lowering the overall KR lvl. I can tell you that it's not just coincidence, i can see myself the low lvl of play on NA servers , i've been playing since season 3 and stop playing the last season, i got barely to master, most of the time diamond 1 and it was so hard trying to get to master even diamond 1 was so hard. recently i played in platinum 1 and i got to master mmr and they match me against masters and some challengers, and i can tell you they were like diamond 3-4 form last season, and i was like yeahh league is not the same anymore. So maybe you are right but maybe I'm right just for being sceptical, but neither of us have the data to prove our statements.
Jackie says I will flash forward, I will be the HERO!
郝治寰 has a
When I die, I want KT to lower me into my grave, so they can let me down one last time.
You are fun
only you can determine whether you are happy on the inside. We cannot control external circumstances.
Salty Korean tears.
@729 G2 and Fnatic say hi.
jugularstab IG: hi
This game is the real real final.
@@MegaAndrew1213 it honestly was looking back at the lackluster games in semis and finals. two 3-2s, 1 3-0 against Korean, 3-1 Fnatic all in quarters. This game would have flipped the narrative of whether or not LPL was really better than LCK. 3-2 for KT means (probably) that korea, even battered by MSI, are still the best region in the world. After battling their way through GRF, and even with them being the last korean seed (something we rarely see), KR still denies any region (outside of EU S1) a worlds victory.
@@oddfind KT were LCK Summer Champions, the 1st seed, not last. Korea clearly dominated since 2013 until 2017, excluding MSI 2015 and Rift Rivals 2017, where the LPL only fell behind LCK in almost every year and tournament, except for WC 2015 that had a timed lane swap strat that completely played against the LPL playstyle and they lost against almost everyone, once that was removed and the LPL was rebuilding and trying to master the macro game, they returned to their 2nd place only behind LCK in 2016.
2018, it was the year the LPL started to show they've become better than the LCK, All Star 2017, MSI, Asian Games, Rift Rivals, WC 2018 group stage and quarterfinals, while other regions showed they could compete with them that year, although, EU mainly has G2 performing for the whole region, but, there's not a clear EU dominance over KR, Gen.G was beaten in the group stage 0-2, while the rest even in 2019, they just went 1-1 in every LCK Vs LEC match, also, AFs 1-1 G2 in 2018, and GRF had dominant victories, 2-1, over G2 in 2019. NA went back to show they can't compete against KR and it was their only good team at almost every year, and even C9 lost once against GEN in 2018.
What I noticed from LCK teams, after their loss at Rift Rivals 2017, it's they felt the rivalry with the LPL, before that event they were saying they don't have a rival. Until this day, I see they take it personal while playing against LPL teams, so, you can see their matches have that vibe of being "played to the death", thus, they become way competive. When they face other regions, they give it a different approach.
The LPL definitely become the best region until this point, pre WC 2020, they could lose this World Championship, but, still they have the most competitive league, they can find local talent, Bin, Huanfeng, Jiumeng, ppgod, yuyanjia in this year, they can spot talent from elsewhere, too, and they can improve the level of most import players, as it happened to Deft, while EU has G2 doing as they wish in LEC, always followed by FNC as 2nd, KR always has the same teams or players at the top, even when RNG and EDG were the face of the LPL, they had to go through a fierce competition that could also come from the bottom LPL teams.
You know when the attitude changed? It was after WC 2017 Semifinals, although, it was only Uzi's words, it later got reflected in how the LPL teams performed, he said they all regretted how they played those semifinals, that they restricted themselves from playing the way they knew and they tried to play as others did, but, they were no longer going to do that and now, they're going to play as always. 957 more or less said in an interview at All Star 2017 semifinals before facing the KR team about facing KR before the final, the rival doesn't matter, you have to win against whoever is in front of you, if you want to take it all.
Rift Rivals 2019 was a stepback from this, the teams that played there, except for iG and Doinb, the rest didn't play outside of the LPL before, it looked like facing a different environment affected their confidence, they played very uncharacteristically, while iG again showed that year they were in decline, redeeming themselves against GRF at WC quarterfinals. FPX, later in Rift Rivals final, showed how those teams, loss or win, should have played, instead of what they did.
EU 3 finals KR 0 finals LUL
I hope we get to see like this in 2020 worlds
@@Ddd16942 3 finals and 56 countries and yet they still can’t win a tournament huh?
How rude Jackeylove thanked Sjokz for the compliments and the translator just ignored it
Everyone saying that this worlds is so unpredictable but KT restoring normality by choking again
Lmao
lol😂
I don' think they choked man
KT didn't choke, iG were simply better than them.
KZ and LZ didn't choke either, RNG were better than KZ and SSG completely knew how to beat LZ in 2017, which they mostly did for almost one year.
@@ankaylance8279 when things drag to a game 5, we can all conclude that it is an equal match more or less. Choking is real. I still could not believe how G2 beat RNG either. I guess that's how World works. Really unpredictable.
Captain flowers is a big part of the reason why games like these are so enjoyable
*Hello RNG, its KT here, let's play fortnite next week.*
lol
45:26 JackeyLove with the huge, game changing play and that allowed iG to get the Baron and Elder Dragon later.
55:27 Ning with a great outplay with his carry build Kindred, full of decisiveness to finally close the series
JackeyLove
finally wakes up and channels his inner Uzi.
Troll Proof Vest u got this Id so quick man lol
Say gudbye to uzi, kiddo
More like his inner Hjarnan
uzi tilted jkl din
@@luker.6967 Whatever is a "Hjarnan", that sounds as an insult to JackeyLove. Be more respectful.
Rookie forgot to get potions in the beginning, wtf...
Not only Potions?!
It was a rookie mistake...
rumor says Rookie was distracted by KT's coach during the break after game 4, he reminds Rookie not to forget his nationality.
Hann Soo no that’s a joke. You miss the ending The ending is that Rookie came back from KT room and his teammates asked him what the coach said then rookie told them “I don’t know because he speaks Korean”. XD implying that rookie speaks very very good Chinese and of course he is putting 100% effort and definitely not gonna troll.
@@hann7406 That's SOOO disgusting! Such a disrespect to sportsmanship!
story of How JackeyLove saved the Christmas....
The Shy's face when they destroyed the nexus looking at his teammates like "See what happens when you sub me out?"
I still miss Deft's days at EDG
55:54 love TheShy just like yep yeah, gg ez.
when it's literally one of the best games in the LoL history lol.
There goes 80% of all worlwide pick them 😂
The greatest World Championship series all the time....
Good bye pick em
so fkn true. I feel like there probably isn't more than 5 people who picked this outcome.
For me, iG were the only ones who were correct in my pick'em for playoffs.
I always will remember that RooKie forgot to buy at first, it was such a game man
"A kindreds hand is always in the cookie jar, and he'll either get a large handful or he'll die instantly."
How i miss this IG. Now only Jackey and Rookie are still playing. I hope Rookie makes it to worlds :(
Welcome to the real final of s8
1:01:54, they definitely can do more. TheShy hasn't shown he could 1V5 yet
55:56 theshy smiling like knowing he couldve ended KT alone at 10 mins but hes happy he let the kids have some fun
You should give credit where's due and you should admit that if it wasn't for the rest of iG, particularly JackeyLove who finally turned around the match in favour of iG, TheShy would have lost by himself this set 5 against KT, he didn't play Sion well and he was just losing life and provoking the death of Baolan at 44:37 who went to save him after his misexecution, which wasn't the only one he did there. Bonus: This Ning's on-point decision and play 55:30
the shy smiling like a proud father
KT being Kt, as usual. That was easy to predict
score just won the dade award, ning showed him how to play "his signature champion" kindred correctly. Always knew he was overrated
Ucal lost lane to a guy who didn’t buy items at level 1.
Score underwhelmed. Highest rated jungler. Hey I'm actually his fan but I knew his mechanics are bad and his team fighting is really bad. He's no playmaker and he doesn't help Deft in team fights. He just likes to sit back in team fights and pray for his teammates to do well instead of setting them up. Bad team fighting is a sign of bad micro and mechanics and instant decisions. Score likes early game with no action so he can just use his brain, which he is best at. Has clear signs of strength and weaknesses.
So happy that the Koreans didn’t win again. They are always winning worlds and it’s time for something new. Sadly I doubt NA will beat the next Korean team cuz it’s NA. So hopefully EU can do it.
C9 just decimated the last Korean team with 3-0. U wot m8
@@stinkytofuz 2 = 4? In what world?
@@MitDau87 Ehhh. Duke, Rookie, Theshy and coach Kim are Korean. Ning, Jackeylove and Baolan are Chinese. There are more Koreans than Chinese on IG.
1 of the Greatest Bo5 of All Time!
5:57 oh fros you were so wrong
funny thing is one of my big bros, said “ don’t worry, deft will throw the games away” I was like nah kt is strong af this year not happening.
This is a remarkable start point of IG legend
ㅡㅡㄷ
The Shy > Duke
Wrong. The Shy with carry picks>Duke
Emilio Ginóbili If you count Urgot and Sion as carries...
TheShy > Duke > everyone else
2015 Marin > Theshy
@@luker.6967 Urgot is a carry ya know even a year ago just depends on the build and yes I am rewatching this vid.....
39:50 rapgod
My pick' em!!!!
The Shy playing Sion’s literally the most aesthetically unpleasant thing I’ve ever seen.
I call a IG vs FNC Finale
Nah I call FNC vs RNG
same
Gamber63 ELIMINATED
RNG ELIMINATED
G2 vs FNC
Ffs there goes my picks...
Worlds is crazy thinks madness. Top teams gone. What a tournament
KT what is objective ? all 5 games. ie, dragons and tower, those dragons bonus win teamfight
Skt hôm nay cũng thua g2 nên chúng m hãy thông cảm cho kt nhé
I feel like, overall, the changes riot made to vision and the vision game (most recently the jungle ward item) hurt the koreans with their makro style a lot
yaaa macro'
After PapaSmithy said that, some people thought the same, of course, that affected in part the LCK playstyle, which could deny ganks and fights because of it, but, there are other factors and changes to the meta which played against them, see for example PVB from Vietnam, they had a good macro control, but, they never were ready to teamfight, which was a comeback tool in this meta, then, they threw away their leads because of losing at teamfights, same for Korea, they wanted to play slow with macro control, then, once they were outpaced, they couldn't deal with all the aggression, also, they're not capable to make calls like RNG did against KZ at MSI or China did to Korea at Asian Games or iG did to KT on this last set, also, LPL can engage in lane duels, while LCK want to avoid those.
EDG also fell into that trap of slowing down matches while they had the lead in quarterfinals, then, they threw possible victories there by playing scattered and trying to push 3 lanes at the same time and then getting caught in unfavourable teamfights, meanwhile iG, in this last set versus KT, decided to prioritise the laning phase, they wanted to play a more slow match, but, the difference with EDG was iG were ready to teamfight and outplay the enemy team and they never let KT command in any aspect.
This was a meta which rewarded execution, mechanical plays and proactivity, that was clear in Spring and it was the reason why KZ were stomping everybody else in the LCK, they were the only proactive team there, AFs and KT defied them in that regard, yet KZ outplayed them, but, again, KZ like other LCK teams, they couldn't make that kind of unexpected and decisive calls LPL teams do, another difference it's LPL junglers can take different paths to gank, while LCK junglers have more common and predictable routes.
Even in the LCK some teams lost because of the other team engaged when they thought they weren't going to do it, AFs Vs KZ at the LCK Spring final, it's one example, while AFs just were prepared to retreat from a skirmish where nobody died, KZ decided to continue the fights and they chased AFs almost from nexus to nexus, a lot of LCK teams lost like that in Spring and Summer, while some just were trying to place a ward, the other team could be ready to catch them and destroy them.
The mindset of LCK teams and how they've learned to play the game since 2015, they can't replicate those aggressive plays, nor deal with them, KT Vs GRF was a final with many aggressive plays from both sides, but, at the same time, they just were provoking throw after throw to both teams.
This was the real final
This is the real S8 'final'.
Honestly, what is this draft from kt? You have your superstar toplaner on a noncarry, and you put your superstar jungler on a pick that's more or less useless against 60 percent of the enemy team... I love IG and this series is legendary, but Kt could've won this.
IG vs AFs finals, IG takes it home
ahhhh nope
How is the Baron steal not #1. A failed backdoor is #2 and a 1v2 is #1???? You had a more impressive 1v2 as 3 or 4.
How can kt loose this teamfight? Korean wasn't the best at it?
lose*
Because, iG had better mechanics and decision making, also, showcased on those unexpected calls and plays, 45:32 most teams wouldn't expect an ADC to do what JackeyLove did there and that was even a 4vs5, and they made outplays, too, like this one from Ning at 55:28. Those are some characteristics of the LPL playstyle, having the willingness to fight, move forward and always trying to find window opportunities to beat and outplay the other team, like how RNG beat KZ with that great and decisive call at the MSI final, Uzi also had a match where they finally beat JDG in the LPL, he got an unofficial quadra in an extended teamfight which was 4v5 in favour of JDG, he went alone in a 1v3 to finally get a 0x5 Ace.
Ning, TheShy, Rookie have better team fighting and micro. Score has always been bad at team fighting (upside good pathing but bad mechanics). Smeb isnt a good team fighter but he benefitted a lot in Tigers doing the set up and playmaking for him, especially Pray, Kuro, Peanut or Gorilla. They were selfless and let Smeb shine a lot. Score isn't the kind of playmaking jungler. KT only has Mata as playmaker. The jungle top doesn't also help Deft do his thing in team fights. Only mata helps him. If KT played through Deft like EDG did, they'd be better team fighters but the topside do their own thing.
Korea used to be the best at it, like SKT in 2013 and SSW in 2014, while LPL always had the best teamfighting skills. In the LPL, if you're not good at mechanics, micro game, fast decision-making in split seconds and your team is not good at teamfights, you have no future there. After 2015, LCK focused on mastering the macro game, vision control, playing around farming and objectives and learned to deny teamfights, too. Once the meta moved to a more micro game, mechanics and teamfights and the LPL mastered the macro game around that same time, while they also integrated it to their traditional playstyle, well, you already saw the result of all of it.
Taking aside the times, the LPL teams and players certainly didn't play well, usually against LCK teams in the past, with the style SKT and the LCK imposed, they could fall behind through the macro game, farming, wave control, etc. and then, they weren't able to do anything, while also the vision and players denied them teamfights, even Shen or Tahm Kench used to work to make them look hopeless. LPL players also learned how to play against that, later.
the real final
yeah sad tthey dident meet in the final...
@@Leetbeast but maybe the results are different in the finals and the match may not be as close as it is now...due to nerves on the finals stage?
Score could have really won this series if he didn't choke. KT have worse solo laners in lane and team fight and a jungler who can't be playmaker after early game and peel for Deft in team fights. KT is solely relying on Mata to be the playmaker just like in Griffin finals. I love Score but tf, he underperformed so much in this series. You can't just be smart early game with pathing and do nothing after. Team fight is about micro instant decisions and that's been his weakness as jungler aside from smiting. That's why he was so passive as adc. He let's others be the playmakers but jungle isn't that kind of role. You have to have guts and have to sacrifice and let your teammates shine and be the playmaker. Score is the kind of jungler who just wants to play back. That's why Deft shines more in KZ than he did in KT, they have worse players but not selfish who let's Deft shine.
10 dislike = 10 korean maybe???
Vô Thường bingo
yikes. these upsets are ruining my pick ems
IG 牛逼
Captain Flowers crushed these calls.
Mata's mistake was so tragic
welp.. there it goes my pick'em
The talliyah pick was troll.
53:35 No flash or Zhonyas from smeb. Didn't even try to use it until the game was basically over. He's such a massive choker any team with him as top laner will never win worlds or live up to their potential.
Did you missed game 4?
wow this iron player know nothing about smeb's legacy in LOL history...just wow...
Smeb only had 1 good game, against Duke. Ucal is no better, outclassed entire series by Rookie even with 5 mid bans. Score also invisible really with no playmaking and bad team fighting. There is no question why KT would lose. IG has better solo lanes and the jungler had more guts than Score and was a playmaker. Wasn't at all afraid by Score.
57:08 Deft ;-;
GG WP!
为啥不给中文自动翻译？
My Pick-Em’s 😱
Again, 5 Korean khan’t win, lol..
Chen zhimin But can you please change your profile picture? That is disrespectful to the koreans..
Lolol that picture
I think that's his point.
gae sibal LOL
Coach and 3 players on IG are korean.
finalmente pararam de trolar na porra da build dos kindred
pqp..finalmente!
IG WIN .
45:32
gold lb, no silver...
原来八强魔咒是我deft
s10回来的 deft的八强魔咒又成真了 要被dwg3-0了
LCK without SKT
China numba 1
The stole a championship from KT this year
Steve Cheng Remind ur wording, it’s “took” than “stole”...KT would have chance to get the cup but obviously IG is better
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:'(
They finally beat kr at worlds, but when nobody cares anymor league, not even the good kr teams cares, no skt no ssg, most players are playing fortnite, cod bo 4, and red dead redemption, who cares league of legends anymore
Love when people make excuses for themselves and they want to live in denial. Of course, you'd be saying the opposite if a Korean team would have won the WC.
Good Korean teams? haha, you're just basing that on previous tournament performances, that's like saying Samsung was a great team in 2015, which they weren't, just because SSW and SSB happened in 2014 and it's not they didn't care, it was they reached their limit and they couldn't move further. Yes, mention any video game and think they're all esports (which by the way, some even just watch those while they don't play the actual game), just because they're video games. Also, who cares about basketball? Most of the world play football, right?
@@nearlight1315 I don't play league anymore and I know a lot of people that stop playing league, stop following the competitive and despite their poor seasons updating it coincides with a poor World championship lvl, like fnatic getting to a final I mean LOL, it doesn't happen since season 1, reddit rumors of league being dead , and i can continue with more statements, not excuses, they're facts. Sorry if you just discover league, or you're been playing it since alot of time ago, but league isn't the same as one time was.
@@juanescutia5845 You just repeated the same point with different words. By the way, year after year, Reddit say League is dead and they complain about everything, so, like the rest of what you say, that's all irrelevant. I also love the classic "I know people who did this, now, the world's ending", of course, things aren't going to remain the same, especially on these things, yet, that doesn't matter, people can leave others might join and even if they don't, things will go on. When I said excuses, I didn't mean in relation to the game, I was talking about these poor arguments of why Korea lost, like saying the teams don't care, even if League was dead, they still had something to win for themselves this whole year.
@@nearlight1315 Hmmm maybe you're right, but i mean there's alot of coincidence, the NA base players going to games like fortnite, fortnite competitive is still improving, but now we can just see NA and EU fortnite, but in KR there's fornite competitive too, but epic games are not riot and they can't do like a world championship as of now, but that doesn't mean KR players aren't going to other games too thus lowering the overall KR lvl. I can tell you that it's not just coincidence, i can see myself the low lvl of play on NA servers , i've been playing since season 3 and stop playing the last season, i got barely to master, most of the time diamond 1 and it was so hard trying to get to master even diamond 1 was so hard. recently i played in platinum 1 and i got to master mmr and they match me against masters and some challengers, and i can tell you they were like diamond 3-4 form last season, and i was like yeahh league is not the same anymore.
So maybe you are right but maybe I'm right just for being sceptical, but neither of us have the data to prove our statements.