i think toy freddy was always a gamer, he just wasnt able to have the free will to go play arcade games when hes compelled by wayward programming and vengeful intent. the vengeful spirit freed him so he could go and do what i assume he did before he got flatlined by the man behind the slaughter
I did it mom! I'm in a RyeToast video! 14 Theory was so fun to be a part of on stream and in the video. Thanks for the shoutout 😁 We've been scouring for so many 14s in the series since then that any time I see it in real life I brain-rottedly start trying to draw connections. I only hope this video helps contribute to more people doing that.
I'M SO HYPED AAAAAAAHHHHH IM IN A RYETOAST VID! This was such a good video! You did a great job explaining it and I got a few laughs from it! Thank you so much RyeToast! I hope to work with you sometime soon!
@@justinbb7467 it's both. William isn't responsible for Michaels death. Henry had a way out for Michael in the FNAF 6 fire, but Michael burned himself up with everyone.
According to some Steel Wool teasers, Dave's birthday cake had 7 candles, so he probably died at the age of 7. Another example of the relevance of the number 7 in the franchise.
Ngl I often get this song stuck in my head as soon as I say "I'll be honest" - even worse oc when I need to tell someone that I can't comprehend a topic they're talking about.
Given that Scott has a very strong Christian background in his career as an animator, I think looking at the Christian symbolism could be meaningful. This reminds me a lot of the Jewish/Christian concept of gematria, or number symbolism. Many times in which the Bible uses numbers they have a special symbolic value, for example seven is symbolic of perfection and ten of fullness. So, in Matthew 18:22 when Jesus says to forgive someone 770 times, it means to have full and perfect forgiveness (77 * 10). Gematria can also be a system of converting letters and words to symbolic numbers, and *the gematraic value for the name ‘David’ is 14.* From cursory Googling it looks like 14 symbolizes ‘enough’ or ‘need’, and 15 symbolizes redemption. Maybe gf not being satisfied with letting William move on, and William being unable to do so and find redemption. Those meanings would also work if the one you shouldn’t have killed follows Old Man Consequences’ advice and frees William.
Great comment! It's really compelling. Also in TMIR1280, the 15th story, is literally about William being visited by a priest, and tells him that "he's loved". You could try and squint your eyes, and say that it's him being "forgiven" by a priest. I once looked up 1280 to see If I could find anything, but I think nothing came up. Do you think 1280 means something biblically? I'm very curious.
@@LadyLuckyLu 1280 is interesting. If it is true that Scott is doing number symbolism stuff I'd find it hard to believe 1280 was chosen randomly. I can't think of any direct significance of 1280. However, like 770 is 77 * 10, you could also say that the factors of 1280 have some meaning. The only problem is that 1280 is divisible by basically everything, so it would be difficult to say for sure since there are so many options that you could make fit somehow. Alternatively, it could be a word. In gematria, each letter is assigned a number and then they're added up to get the value of the word. For example, in Revelation 13:18 how it says the number of the beast is 666. If you transliterate 'Nero Caesar' (the Roman emperor who persecuted Christians) from Greek to Hebrew the gematraic value is 666. The other existent translation of Rev. 13:18 has the number as 616, which is what you get if you transliterate 'Nero Caesar' from Latin instead. So 1280 could be a word. There's some calculator sites out there that tell you the value of a word you typed in, and I tried a few common FNAF words, but didn't get anything. The only problem with that is that word gematria is **really** obscure and usually only done by spelling things in Hebrew. Although Scott hides some pretty obscure clues, I don't know if he would ever expect people to transliterate things into Hebrew. I can definitely see number symbolism being put in the games, but word gematria seems like a bit of a stretch. That being said, I found that 28 means friendship, or a relationship in which both parties are equal. I did a skim of the 1280 story and maybe that could have something to do with the 'two spirits tormenting each other'. I'm not sure. Having symbolism for 14, 15, seems pretty likely since Scott looks like he's pressing it, but pinning down a solid meaning on 1280 seems a bit of a reach. I do think the whole Christian symbolism should be looked into though, given how it seems like it was such a massive force in Scott's life and inspiration.
Also, during UCN’s development, Game Theory specifically asked how many victims William had. It was a big debate in the community at that time, as bite of 87/83(82) was basically settling down for lack of a better term. The impact of the Silver Eyes trilogy was being questioned (They obviously weren’t canon but not Not-Canon, leading to the famous Scott Quote) and the Susie subplot was confirmed in PizzaSim. So whether or not DCI AND MCI had occurred or one or the other was the current contentious topic (at least on the steam community pages).
15:36 proof of this is the Matpreg thing, he himself said that Matthew was a name he randomly picked, and if I had a Dime for every Jeremy there was in this franchise, I'd be richer than Scrooge McDuck by now.
Something I'd like to say is that it's possible the DCI actually had 6 victims based on the bloodstains in the minigame. This does not harm the theory however, as it could just mean that Michael isn't counted among the 14.
Omg, you got me with the There's a Platypus Controlling me ref. Laughing because that's what plays in my head whenever I hear 'well, I'll be honest, I don't really understand'...
Well I'll be honest I don't really understand But I cant find my ball, now it's out on the road And there's a car coming towards Car coming towards me There's a car coming towards me and it just can't stop (won't stop) It can't stop I got a-AHHH
5:43 I feel if Scott wanted to confirm in some way that the Frights series is a part of the game's timeline in any way shape or form we would have gotten something similar to the book mimic references being in the HW2 update with into the pit. We gotta remember nearly any reference to the games timeline was cut from into the pit (the game) most likely to ensure that the two continuities stay separated, that was the perfect time to confirm either way and it seems Scott has taken a clear stance that the Frights series is it's own continuity
It actually did, but in a weird way. The collar of Eleanor appears in one of the stories of the Tales, that would connect the frights to the tales. Also you cannot make the story of the Frights work without the context of the games beforehand unlike something like the trilogy of Charlie. And finally Andrew appears in d Fnaf 3, straight up, he is there with his alligator mask in the happiest day sitting like the rest of the DCI kids
"The rest of the DCI kids", @@GameofMatias? Whether Stitchline is true or not, is it ever implied that Andrew died in the DCI? Not trying to fight about it (in case that came off confrontational), I'm just wondering. From what I've understood, the whole concept of a 2nd string of murders never comes up in that series. Heck, pretty much everything Fnaf 2- the new and improved location, the bite, even all the characters not named the Puppet- are weirdly absent from Frights.
@ In the books not, but in his appearance. He is described as having an alligator mask and one of the DCI kids have an alligator mask. So is more speculation than anything else but it would make the DCI kids a little more interesting other than be the ones who posses the toys and then do nothing else, that the most insignificant group of the two have one of the most important characters
Someone in the comments under NarrowRaven's video pointed out that page 31 in the Survival Logbook-which has the Puppet on the left side of a table handing a triple-layer pink cake to a young girl with black hair on the right side under a prompt asking you to reflect on a memory of the happiest day of your life that will make you feel better if you find yourself facing certain death-has 14 tally marks.
So what if instead of Golden Freddy shaking at the end of ucn meaning they'll be there forever, maybe it means none of the spirits will truly rest until they all let go
15:07 I should note the other option here is that there are 6 DCI victims and either David Afton or Micheal Afton isn't being counted. 6 blood stains. Last body might be under the table, or in Golden Freddy, or in the Puppet Box
two things: 1. i just wanna say thank you so much for slowing down the gameplay footage used in the background, as a disabled person very affected by quick flashing lights it means a lot to me and has not gone unnoticed 2. we've all got a platypus controlling us
I have a theory. We know Cassie daddy's possessing the staff bot. A lot of us are overlooking the mplications of that. The fact that the scooper moves on its on to kill the mimic. In order to save Cassidy, this explains why Glenn rock Bonnie eye are lit up. He's really possessing the system against the mimic
An alternate hypothesis could be that Michael isn’t included within the fourteen and that Andrew is that sixth blood puddle from the DCI. I still don’t think that means Andrew is the vengeful spirit, but it would give an avenue to explain when he was killed
15:02 I will say, the mci before Elizabeth makes sense to me. Like he made the scoopy thing in baby after he had already killed and learned about REMNANT.
16:05 You gather your ingredients You mix your dough You bake yourself a theory You let it cool and see how it tastes Sometimes you stick with a known recipe Sometimes you try an experimental new ingredient and see how it shakes up the formula You share recipes with your friends, see how each person's different tastes react to the flavor of your creation And all can share in the joy of a full bakery of bread that just so happens to be baked with child homicide lore.
Glad to see this is more in favor of Cassidy. I HATEEEE Andrew in the games theories, it is peak poor media literacy. Like we had NO problem deciding the book trilogy and the games were separate continuities, yet they add one boy who is clearly a parallel and people think he's in the games. It is the most narrative unsatisfying thing for Scott to add. TOYSNHK is a VERY important entity and UCN is the climax of William's sins, and them have that be a fucking kid that has zero plot relevance/appearance until AFTER the final story is over. So stupid.
Only detail about the whole star thing is that I highly doubt the last star is representing Michael especially considering he might still be alive post FNAF 6 fire and in the SB era. If anything, it's more likely to be a 6th hidden victim of the DCI (explains why there is a 6th pool of blood under a table) or it can be representing Andrew because William never killed Michael, either he is alive or allowed himself to die in the fire started by Henry.
Yeah, Cassidy can be a girl or boy as far as names. There's even two theories that state that Cassidy is William's son. Not to mention that there's a theory stating that Charlie is Cassidy. I have yet to play the games or read the books, but it's possible that Cassidy is puppet, but again an analysis would need to be conducted to explain how that may be possible.
Counterpoint: Elizabeth died in a location that had a Springlock suit. So she and CC had to die before thd MCI because Springlock suits were banned before the MCI happened I'm also pretty sure she's the Fredbear plush because of FNAF World
15:29 That's pretty much how i feel about the "elizabeth is pigtails girl and the one who said the "i will put you back together" line" theory Also, what do you think the bear of vengeance scenes are meant to represent? I personally think it's about cassidy and her determination to kill william, whether as the vengeful spirit or not
It could potentially be a completion reference seeing as God when he created the world from a biblical standpoint, rested on the seventh day, so while Afton might have wanted to die he doesn't, he repeats the event (adding seven to seven), and gets you 14 repetitively bringing Afton to his end or "completion".
I have a theory about the one that should not have been killed, what if, stay with me, was actually Dave? First off yes he didn't kill him like some of the others, but he did work on the animatronic that did kill him. Everyone is under the assumption that William started to kill kids because of a tragic event, but what if he started before that? There have been cases where serial killers live a normal life before they have been caught, prime example the BTK killer, and the Golden State Killer. They both have a loving family that had no idea of what there father was up to. Going by that William was most likely using the animatronics as the tools.
She is golden Freddy this was pretty much confirmed in SB the arcade mini games in the files the princess name [Cassidy] yellow tone sword leader vengeance going after an bunny AI creature which is clearly Afton soul or it pretending to be him i personally believe Andrew and Cassidy are both vengeful spirits but Andrew is the one you shouldn't have killed
@NicholasBrown-u9lwasn't Cassidy as the Princess in Princess Quest a mistake though? Besides the princess is most likely Vanessa. I do plan on playing the games and reading the books eventually, but it's possible that the Golden Freddy Spirit could be Dave Afton. If Dave didn't have a good relationship with his father before his demise and harbored negative feelings towards him before his death it's possible that he could be vengeful. Also if spring locking is tied to drowning then UCN is FNAF's version of Davey Jones's Locker.
So something cool that came to my mind during this video, if we take into consideration that there were 14 people who died becouse of Williams actions and William is represented by the number 15 could mean that the 15 person who died becouse of his actions was himself
I honestly wouldn’t me mad if the into the pit games be totally separate, and be canon(or kinda correlate to the books only and not the mainline games)
So here’s a thought, the Bonnie hidden room in Ruin, which mirrors the spring locking of Aften. Then the floor signs resemble the ghosts from that 8bit cutscene, and who do we expect killed Bonnie? Monty, who is a gator, a reference to Andrew who is associated with gators.
That's fair, but I feel like it would make more sense if it was someone from the MCI, as that seems to be the more important one between the 2 Children Incidents.
In my personal opinion, I'm taking 14 theory on the tier of 'borderline confirmed' when it comes to FNaF theories. Note: I'm pretty sure I was the one who looked and found that TMIR1280 was the 15th story of Frights. Plus, since Frights did intend to release with 5 books, feels even more solid to me. Also, appreciate the DEEP CUT REFERENCE at 14:57
Wait a minute how did nobody notice that "my name" is written on a drawing of THE CRYING CHILD'S GRAVE!? OMG IT WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US THE WHOLE TIME! Mike drew the gravestone, who's gravestone would Mike most likely draw? The one death that hit the hardest for Mike was his little brother, so he draws that gravestone to remind himself why he fights, and the spirit chose that drawing to be the perfect place to write "my name" he's communicating with Mike, saying "hey, it's me, Cassidy" Cassidy might very well be the crying child on second thought
Fun fact: I do feel like one detail that has been forgotten, is that the fun time animatronics might have killed A LOT of kids! Which might be another reason to point to how sporadic they are, there moght be more that juts the MCI kids in them. I mean they were rented out and probably kidnapped someone most of the times they did that.
3:30 Aren’t all the nightmare animatronics actually blank slates with the illusion disks on them, AND you need the torture gas on to hallucinate their features on? Why would William Afton hallucinate the exact same appearance of the Nightmare Animatronics as Michael when he didn’t suffer the exact same trauma and also prolly didn’t gas himself? The only way the exact same appearance of the Nightmare Animatronics to appear would be Michael specifically contributing his specific memories since only he saw the Nightmare Animatronics in their nightmare form
@@artofcosplay But they have a point. Whoever making UCN has to have seen the EXACT design of the Nightmares for them to line up one to one with the ones in FNAF 4. Because the ones in UCN are so close to appearance.
@sleepylmguy9968 why wouldn't nightmare statues look exact same as the ones in ucn? Gas only gives them a look like they are moving This is non sense cuz toysnhk face is a child face. Michael never was shown in that age. Btw toysnhk speaks through mediocre melodies. His voice is fact childish and so damn different then Michael's
Rory is a character in Tales who has ALSO seen the Nightmares, described exactly like in FNAF 4. This same book actually rules out Michael seeing them through the experiments, because Rory is the only survivor as of Dittophobia, thus supporting the fact Mike himself says they were dreams for him in the logbook. Main four exist in Afton's experiments, so anyone who was in the experiments has seen them, plus Afton saw them when he made them. Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare were drawn by Mike in the logbook, explaining how Cassidy would know their appearances.
Rip April hope your doing good ryetoast and I hope that you can process everything in a normal way and not feel pressured in to coming back while grieving
I gotta be honest, as interesting as this theory is I feel like it enables a LOT of wild reaches. if the theorist community starts trying to connect every instance of 14 or multiples of 14 back to Golden Freddy, I feel like it’s going to reach tinfoil hat conspiracy levels really fast. 😅
So now I'm through the video, and this being the topic of memory in the energy and all, I want to give a really neat example where this is shown in Security Breach So if we take into consideration that the Mimic1 program sees and mimics the energy from the corrupted chip, when Cassie's Dad gets stuck in the StaffBot, his energy and memories are now witnessed by the Mimic. This is why Roxy tells Cassies she "remembers" her. Her Dad traumatic moments in life was when Cassie was let down. The Mimic1 Program continued to Mimic her father the entire way too, even with Roxy jumping in the way and telling Cassie to run now. Its Mimicking being her father, because her father's emotional energy is a part of its charge now. I just thought that was pretty neat and wanted to share
14 theory basically screams that the toyshnk needs to have a connection to Golden Freddy. RTTP basically debunks Andrew/stitchline by having 5 kids in the MCI as well as removing TNK as Andrew’s only possible connection to Golden Freddy he has nothing. Hell even curly hair isn’t his alone as Cassidy has curly hair in RTTP I feel like it should be obvious Ngl, ESPECIALLY when there’s a “Mrs. Andrews” in TWB whom Ralph mentions “lost her daughter years ago” (could be Susie but like… why?) The vengeful spirit is… “Cassidy Andrews” Additionally thing to mention about 14 theory: In the Logbook, there are tally marks The first page you find them on, there is 5 And the next time you see tally marks there is 9… right next to the girl with black hair. 14 total tally marks. Right next to Cassidy. Funny huh.
@@Wizardjones69 Not really, we could very well be meant to interpret cassidy as a hypocrite who really does believe justice is payback deep down and kelsey's protests are just her trying to deflect that fact
@SeekerOfComfyness He literally killed kelsey because kelsey could be a future serial killer Devon would be the vengeful spirit, since kelsey justice Isn't payback
@SeekerOfComfyness Kelsey raised his hand and said, “Justice balances the scales.” “What does that mean?” Mr. Gentry asked. “It removes the downside so the downside can’t outweigh the upside.” “Interesting perspective,” Mr. Gentry said. Thats not payback
@@Wizardjones69 the new kid isn’t canon along with all of frights after RTTP finally debunked it so therefore it’s irrelevant. And even if it wasn’t, the only remaining option with Andrewgames being debunked is BV toyshnk which requires MikeHell Which is stupid. Mike doesn’t deserve that.
3:03 Ah well if your logic is that the one who is dominant has had to have witnessed those memories yes. However, this energy they all are (which btw the fire destroyed the properties of remnant it didn't destroy the energy, by the Law of Conservation of Energy, you cannot destroy energy) is made up of their memories and they're all brought together. The dominant one (The one you should not have killed) doesn't necessarily have to have witnessed any animatronic at all, it could simply witness the memory of another energy. This is also how the Mimic1 program knows of Afton. The energy in the corrupted chip is memory too, and the Mimic1 Program has been copying it. If you remember Candy Cadet, all the stories revolve around 5 becoming one. That's what I believe the dolls are in HW2. The "remember Jeremy" achievement
10:27 Very minor point but I’m pretty sure that star is just reflecting the light from the ceiling lamp, and isn’t actually a different color. “Checking the files” also doesn’t mean anything in this context, because it’s a 2D image and not a 3D model.
15:00 If I had a nickle for every fnaf theory talking about golden freddy I have watched that referenced Phineas and Ferb, I would have 2 nickles, which isn't a lot but its weird that it's happened twice.
There's actually a theory about Cassidy being THE dci victim, while Charlie being considered a part of the mci. I dont remember who made the video, but if you look for idk cassidy dci or charlie mci, you're bound to find something. Hope that helps with your theory-crafting!
I think Andrew IS the vengeful spirit. Casidy is the game name of Charile (who is never named in games, just books). This would also support the theory that the puppet is trying to help Dave (the crying child) move on. In trying to unlock Dave's memories, she shares her name, Casidy. It also supports the 14 theory, if Casidy is the puppet, and Jake is the vengeful spirit. It pushs the important of the name Casidy as a pivotal character and Andrew keeping at victims total of 14.
I didn’t even realize you made a joke at 14:57 because that just where my brain goes when anyone says that phrase. It wasn’t until you said “that was a dumb joke” then I realized
Yeah you caught me… I’m the one you shouldn’t have killed. The jig is up guys
I called it!
FINALLY some confirmation
Want me to revive you?
You dropped this 🎁
Want me to pick up the job? You've been doing this for a WHILE
The most important thing to know about the vengeful spirit is that they chose to make Toy Freddy a gamer.
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And they find funtime chica very attractive
@@Smiley_404Ah so they are a person of culture.
i think toy freddy was always a gamer, he just wasnt able to have the free will to go play arcade games when hes compelled by wayward programming and vengeful intent. the vengeful spirit freed him so he could go and do what i assume he did before he got flatlined by the man behind the slaughter
They had to give all animatronics a task, looked at toy freddy and went “gamer lmao”
I did it mom! I'm in a RyeToast video!
14 Theory was so fun to be a part of on stream and in the video. Thanks for the shoutout 😁
We've been scouring for so many 14s in the series since then that any time I see it in real life I brain-rottedly start trying to draw connections. I only hope this video helps contribute to more people doing that.
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hahaha, Keep up the good work, Very happy to see your work getting noticed!
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I'M SO HYPED AAAAAAAHHHHH IM IN A RYETOAST VID! This was such a good video! You did a great job explaining it and I got a few laughs from it! Thank you so much RyeToast! I hope to work with you sometime soon!
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@@justinbb7467 it's both. William isn't responsible for Michaels death. Henry had a way out for Michael in the FNAF 6 fire, but Michael burned himself up with everyone.
According to some Steel Wool teasers, Dave's birthday cake had 7 candles, so he probably died at the age of 7. Another example of the relevance of the number 7 in the franchise.
Okay that's just a coincidence
@Smiley_404 i mean maybe, candles equaling the birthday is a common tradition in most families until the kid reaches the teen years
@@gghoulish-fun i mean connecting it with 14 is stupid
@@Smiley_404 the whole reason 14 was relevant for 49 being connected is because it was 7 squared, so i wouldnt call it "stupid"
@@gghoulish-fun but it's outside UCN, that's the point
I watched this video 14 times. It was that good
I want to like this comment, but I don't want to ruin your perfect score. 😅
omg i'm seeing this when it says 14 hours ago
I read this comment at 14:14 on the clock
I am 14 years old I am golden Freddy
14:58 10/10 deep cut phineas and fern reference
Ngl I often get this song stuck in my head as soon as I say "I'll be honest" - even worse oc when I need to tell someone that I can't comprehend a topic they're talking about.
There’s a platypus controlling me!
@@c.r.blankenship9040
Oh gosh, I sure hope this platypus isn't underneath the table!
@@jhunt7235 Oh I get it, platypus is a metaphor for whatever's keeping you down
We All Got A Platypus Controlling Us!
Given that Scott has a very strong Christian background in his career as an animator, I think looking at the Christian symbolism could be meaningful. This reminds me a lot of the Jewish/Christian concept of gematria, or number symbolism. Many times in which the Bible uses numbers they have a special symbolic value, for example seven is symbolic of perfection and ten of fullness. So, in Matthew 18:22 when Jesus says to forgive someone 770 times, it means to have full and perfect forgiveness (77 * 10). Gematria can also be a system of converting letters and words to symbolic numbers, and *the gematraic value for the name ‘David’ is 14.* From cursory Googling it looks like 14 symbolizes ‘enough’ or ‘need’, and 15 symbolizes redemption. Maybe gf not being satisfied with letting William move on, and William being unable to do so and find redemption. Those meanings would also work if the one you shouldn’t have killed follows Old Man Consequences’ advice and frees William.
Great comment! It's really compelling. Also in TMIR1280, the 15th story, is literally about William being visited by a priest, and tells him that "he's loved". You could try and squint your eyes, and say that it's him being "forgiven" by a priest.
I once looked up 1280 to see If I could find anything, but I think nothing came up. Do you think 1280 means something biblically? I'm very curious.
For real
m .. my .. MY NAME IS DAVID, DAD, I WANT SOME ICE CREAM, DAVID, THAT IS MY NAME, DAVID, I WANT ANOTHER, DAV
Interesting, commenting for the replies
@@LadyLuckyLu 1280 is interesting. If it is true that Scott is doing number symbolism stuff I'd find it hard to believe 1280 was chosen randomly. I can't think of any direct significance of 1280. However, like 770 is 77 * 10, you could also say that the factors of 1280 have some meaning. The only problem is that 1280 is divisible by basically everything, so it would be difficult to say for sure since there are so many options that you could make fit somehow.
Alternatively, it could be a word. In gematria, each letter is assigned a number and then they're added up to get the value of the word. For example, in Revelation 13:18 how it says the number of the beast is 666. If you transliterate 'Nero Caesar' (the Roman emperor who persecuted Christians) from Greek to Hebrew the gematraic value is 666. The other existent translation of Rev. 13:18 has the number as 616, which is what you get if you transliterate 'Nero Caesar' from Latin instead. So 1280 could be a word. There's some calculator sites out there that tell you the value of a word you typed in, and I tried a few common FNAF words, but didn't get anything.
The only problem with that is that word gematria is **really** obscure and usually only done by spelling things in Hebrew. Although Scott hides some pretty obscure clues, I don't know if he would ever expect people to transliterate things into Hebrew. I can definitely see number symbolism being put in the games, but word gematria seems like a bit of a stretch.
That being said, I found that 28 means friendship, or a relationship in which both parties are equal. I did a skim of the 1280 story and maybe that could have something to do with the 'two spirits tormenting each other'. I'm not sure. Having symbolism for 14, 15, seems pretty likely since Scott looks like he's pressing it, but pinning down a solid meaning on 1280 seems a bit of a reach. I do think the whole Christian symbolism should be looked into though, given how it seems like it was such a massive force in Scott's life and inspiration.
0:30 dude i'm listening to this in the background and genuinely thought the video was tweaking cause of the constant jumpscares
It's so fking funny lmao
16:05 You take your evidence, you take your pattern, you take the moon, and you take the sun, you take everything that seems like fun--
Number 14 the man behind the Burger King foot lettuce
You know it's a good video when it starts with Mark front and center lol
The theory community is so observant. Never would’ve thought how many number “14’s” we would see. This was a great video! Keep up the awesome work!
11:37 Dude your sponsors are already wild enough, what the actual [REDACTED] was that nightmare fuel
Also, during UCN’s development, Game Theory specifically asked how many victims William had. It was a big debate in the community at that time, as bite of 87/83(82) was basically settling down for lack of a better term.
The impact of the Silver Eyes trilogy was being questioned (They obviously weren’t canon but not Not-Canon, leading to the famous Scott Quote) and the Susie subplot was confirmed in PizzaSim.
So whether or not DCI AND MCI had occurred or one or the other was the current contentious topic (at least on the steam community pages).
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14:59 LOVE the Phineas and Ferb reference!
Yes😂
15:36 proof of this is the Matpreg thing, he himself said that Matthew was a name he randomly picked, and if I had a Dime for every Jeremy there was in this franchise, I'd be richer than Scrooge McDuck by now.
Something I'd like to say is that it's possible the DCI actually had 6 victims based on the bloodstains in the minigame. This does not harm the theory however, as it could just mean that Michael isn't counted among the 14.
Lines up with TFreddy, TBonnie, TChica, Mangle, BB and JJ (the one under the table)
Omg, you got me with the There's a Platypus Controlling me ref. Laughing because that's what plays in my head whenever I hear 'well, I'll be honest, I don't really understand'...
11:39 traumatized me.
Well I'll be honest I don't really understand
But I cant find my ball, now it's out on the road
And there's a car coming towards
Car coming towards me
There's a car coming towards me and it just can't stop (won't stop)
It can't stop I got a-AHHH
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I am the fucking mimic yeah
Nice “The Mimic reference….isn’t Edwin’s son called David….and so is the crying child, game theory needs to get onto this.🧐
@@IwillcomebackIALWAYSWILLit's possible that Charlie died due to William hitting her with a car.
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5:43 I feel if Scott wanted to confirm in some way that the Frights series is a part of the game's timeline in any way shape or form we would have gotten something similar to the book mimic references being in the HW2 update with into the pit. We gotta remember nearly any reference to the games timeline was cut from into the pit (the game) most likely to ensure that the two continuities stay separated, that was the perfect time to confirm either way and it seems Scott has taken a clear stance that the Frights series is it's own continuity
It actually did, but in a weird way. The collar of Eleanor appears in one of the stories of the Tales, that would connect the frights to the tales. Also you cannot make the story of the Frights work without the context of the games beforehand unlike something like the trilogy of Charlie. And finally Andrew appears in d
Fnaf 3, straight up, he is there with his alligator mask in the happiest day sitting like the rest of the DCI kids
"The rest of the DCI kids", @@GameofMatias? Whether Stitchline is true or not, is it ever implied that Andrew died in the DCI? Not trying to fight about it (in case that came off confrontational), I'm just wondering.
From what I've understood, the whole concept of a 2nd string of murders never comes up in that series. Heck, pretty much everything Fnaf 2- the new and improved location, the bite, even all the characters not named the Puppet- are weirdly absent from Frights.
@ In the books not, but in his appearance. He is described as having an alligator mask and one of the DCI kids have an alligator mask. So is more speculation than anything else but it would make the DCI kids a little more interesting other than be the ones who posses the toys and then do nothing else, that the most insignificant group of the two have one of the most important characters
Someone in the comments under NarrowRaven's video pointed out that page 31 in the Survival Logbook-which has the Puppet on the left side of a table handing a triple-layer pink cake to a young girl with black hair on the right side under a prompt asking you to reflect on a memory of the happiest day of your life that will make you feel better if you find yourself facing certain death-has 14 tally marks.
So what if instead of Golden Freddy shaking at the end of ucn meaning they'll be there forever, maybe it means none of the spirits will truly rest until they all let go
15:07 I should note the other option here is that there are 6 DCI victims and either David Afton or Micheal Afton isn't being counted.
6 blood stains. Last body might be under the table, or in Golden Freddy, or in the Puppet Box
Yeah, I think they possess respectively TFreddy, TBonnie, TChica, Mangle, BB and JJ (the one under the table)
two things:
1. i just wanna say thank you so much for slowing down the gameplay footage used in the background, as a disabled person very affected by quick flashing lights it means a lot to me and has not gone unnoticed
2. we've all got a platypus controlling us
I have a theory. We know Cassie daddy's possessing the staff bot.
A lot of us are overlooking the mplications of that.
The fact that the scooper moves on its on to kill the mimic. In order to save Cassidy, this explains why Glenn rock Bonnie eye are lit up. He's really possessing the system against the mimic
7:30 HOW HAVE I NEVER HEARD THIS???? WHAT??? THATS A THING???
Yeah, I was blown away by that piece of info.
An alternate hypothesis could be that Michael isn’t included within the fourteen and that Andrew is that sixth blood puddle from the DCI. I still don’t think that means Andrew is the vengeful spirit, but it would give an avenue to explain when he was killed
15:02 I will say, the mci before Elizabeth makes sense to me. Like he made the scoopy thing in baby after he had already killed and learned about REMNANT.
16:05
You gather your ingredients
You mix your dough
You bake yourself a theory
You let it cool and see how it tastes
Sometimes you stick with a known recipe
Sometimes you try an experimental new ingredient and see how it shakes up the formula
You share recipes with your friends, see how each person's different tastes react to the flavor of your creation
And all can share in the joy of a full bakery of bread that just so happens to be baked with child homicide lore.
Hmm, tastes like battery acid.
Tbh I always thought that it was already obvious enough that GF was behind UCN, but sure
14:58 this has to be the most perfectly implemented reference ever
I always thought Andrew was a parallel for Cassiddy, if you add their names together its 14 letters!
What if both are the first n last name lol
David and cassiddy is also 14 😮
As someone who mostly listens to the videos while typing, that “hey” from the sponsor made my jump so badly that I almost fell out of my chair.
The 14 theory sounds like a crackpot theory and I kinda love it
Glad to see this is more in favor of Cassidy. I HATEEEE Andrew in the games theories, it is peak poor media literacy. Like we had NO problem deciding the book trilogy and the games were separate continuities, yet they add one boy who is clearly a parallel and people think he's in the games. It is the most narrative unsatisfying thing for Scott to add. TOYSNHK is a VERY important entity and UCN is the climax of William's sins, and them have that be a fucking kid that has zero plot relevance/appearance until AFTER the final story is over. So stupid.
Dude for real Andrew is lame
Andrew is not canon thankfully
Only detail about the whole star thing is that I highly doubt the last star is representing Michael especially considering he might still be alive post FNAF 6 fire and in the SB era. If anything, it's more likely to be a 6th hidden victim of the DCI (explains why there is a 6th pool of blood under a table) or it can be representing Andrew because William never killed Michael, either he is alive or allowed himself to die in the fire started by Henry.
I’m pretty sure that like Jesse, Cassidy is a gender neutral name.
Yeah, Cassidy can be a girl or boy as far as names. There's even two theories that state that Cassidy is William's son. Not to mention that there's a theory stating that Charlie is Cassidy. I have yet to play the games or read the books, but it's possible that Cassidy is puppet, but again an analysis would need to be conducted to explain how that may be possible.
Counterpoint: Elizabeth died in a location that had a Springlock suit. So she and CC had to die before thd MCI because Springlock suits were banned before the MCI happened
I'm also pretty sure she's the Fredbear plush because of FNAF World
15:29
That's pretty much how i feel about the "elizabeth is pigtails girl and the one who said the "i will put you back together" line" theory
Also, what do you think the bear of vengeance scenes are meant to represent? I personally think it's about cassidy and her determination to kill william, whether as the vengeful spirit or not
scott really gotta come out and clarifying some things he got us counting stars 😭
It could potentially be a completion reference seeing as God when he created the world from a biblical standpoint, rested on the seventh day, so while Afton might have wanted to die he doesn't, he repeats the event (adding seven to seven), and gets you 14 repetitively bringing Afton to his end or "completion".
Hearing those jumpscares over and over near the beginning of the vid really made it sound like they scream "William" while attacking.
“Toy chica is William Afton” never gets old 😂
I have a theory about the one that should not have been killed, what if, stay with me, was actually Dave? First off yes he didn't kill him like some of the others, but he did work on the animatronic that did kill him. Everyone is under the assumption that William started to kill kids because of a tragic event, but what if he started before that? There have been cases where serial killers live a normal life before they have been caught, prime example the BTK killer, and the Golden State Killer. They both have a loving family that had no idea of what there father was up to. Going by that William was most likely using the animatronics as the tools.
HOW IN THE HELL WAS I JUMPSCARED BY THE GAMER SUPPS FACE.
I do like Cassidy as the Golden Freddy Spirit
She is golden Freddy this was pretty much confirmed in SB the arcade mini games in the files the princess name [Cassidy] yellow tone sword leader vengeance going after an bunny AI creature which is clearly Afton soul or it pretending to be him i personally believe Andrew and Cassidy are both vengeful spirits but Andrew is the one you shouldn't have killed
@NicholasBrown-u9lwasn't Cassidy as the Princess in Princess Quest a mistake though? Besides the princess is most likely Vanessa. I do plan on playing the games and reading the books eventually, but it's possible that the Golden Freddy Spirit could be Dave Afton.
If Dave didn't have a good relationship with his father before his demise and harbored negative feelings towards him before his death it's possible that he could be vengeful. Also if spring locking is tied to drowning then UCN is FNAF's version of Davey Jones's Locker.
So something cool that came to my mind during this video, if we take into consideration that there were 14 people who died becouse of Williams actions and William is represented by the number 15 could mean that the 15 person who died becouse of his actions was himself
Why does this feel like a number rabbit hole “guys 14 is everywhere”
I honestly wouldn’t me mad if the into the pit games be totally separate, and be canon(or kinda correlate to the books only and not the mainline games)
guys fnaf 1 came out in 2014
So here’s a thought, the Bonnie hidden room in Ruin, which mirrors the spring locking of Aften. Then the floor signs resemble the ghosts from that 8bit cutscene, and who do we expect killed Bonnie? Monty, who is a gator, a reference to Andrew who is associated with gators.
Adrew could be a dci victim
Fair
That's fair, but I feel like it would make more sense if it was someone from the MCI, as that seems to be the more important one between the 2 Children Incidents.
Damn I don't even know what dci means😭😭
@SebasMaidana”Dead Children Incident” - a way to differentiate between that and the MCI - Missing Children Incident
I mean sure but the DCI isn't a real thing lol
In my personal opinion, I'm taking 14 theory on the tier of 'borderline confirmed' when it comes to FNaF theories.
Note: I'm pretty sure I was the one who looked and found that TMIR1280 was the 15th story of Frights. Plus, since Frights did intend to release with 5 books, feels even more solid to me.
Also, appreciate the DEEP CUT REFERENCE at 14:57
The numbers mason, what do they mean!?!
The number 15 for William still keeps up with the victim thing, as his actions in the end led to his own death as well
no that wasn't a dumb joke I actually started laughing my ass off when you said that
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3:40 it's funny how a massive wall of text appears together with Andrew, like controversies follow him wherever he goes in the fnaf theory community
love the "UNINSTALL HONEY"
I got my toast yesterday in the mail and I love him!
PEAK
14:59 don’t stop, don’t stop.
Great video, this is a really interesting theory! Can’t wait to see where it goes!
Doof jokes are never stupid
I only just saw the notif on dicsord lol excited to watch this
My favorite Loaf Cat . He needs more petting ❤❤❤
12:45
You could remove the adult Michael from the bunch, leaving only kids, and a place for Andrew.
Yeah, this was my thought. And please correct me if I'm wrong, but while he got scooped, I thought Michael survived Sister Location
@@josiahstraatsma2493 he just possessed the metal Ennard left inside of him
If he survived his skin wouldn't get purple....
The DCI could be 6 spirits tbh (6 blood puddles in SAVE THEM)
Wait a minute how did nobody notice that "my name" is written on a drawing of THE CRYING CHILD'S GRAVE!? OMG IT WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US THE WHOLE TIME! Mike drew the gravestone, who's gravestone would Mike most likely draw? The one death that hit the hardest for Mike was his little brother, so he draws that gravestone to remind himself why he fights, and the spirit chose that drawing to be the perfect place to write "my name" he's communicating with Mike, saying "hey, it's me, Cassidy"
Cassidy might very well be the crying child on second thought
14:58 “I’ve got records on my fingers and I just CANT STOP!!”
THAT MADE ME SMILE SO MUCH 😂💕
Fun fact: I do feel like one detail that has been forgotten, is that the fun time animatronics might have killed A LOT of kids! Which might be another reason to point to how sporadic they are, there moght be more that juts the MCI kids in them. I mean they were rented out and probably kidnapped someone most of the times they did that.
3:30 Aren’t all the nightmare animatronics actually blank slates with the illusion disks on them, AND you need the torture gas on to hallucinate their features on? Why would William Afton hallucinate the exact same appearance of the Nightmare Animatronics as Michael when he didn’t suffer the exact same trauma and also prolly didn’t gas himself? The only way the exact same appearance of the Nightmare Animatronics to appear would be Michael specifically contributing his specific memories since only he saw the Nightmare Animatronics in their nightmare form
Bro, toysnhk is a child. This is the clearest fact we know 💀
@@artofcosplay But they have a point. Whoever making UCN has to have seen the EXACT design of the Nightmares for them to line up one to one with the ones in FNAF 4. Because the ones in UCN are so close to appearance.
@sleepylmguy9968 why wouldn't nightmare statues look exact same as the ones in ucn? Gas only gives them a look like they are moving
This is non sense cuz toysnhk face is a child face. Michael never was shown in that age. Btw toysnhk speaks through mediocre melodies. His voice is fact childish and so damn different then Michael's
Rory is a character in Tales who has ALSO seen the Nightmares, described exactly like in FNAF 4. This same book actually rules out Michael seeing them through the experiments, because Rory is the only survivor as of Dittophobia, thus supporting the fact Mike himself says they were dreams for him in the logbook.
Main four exist in Afton's experiments, so anyone who was in the experiments has seen them, plus Afton saw them when he made them. Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare were drawn by Mike in the logbook, explaining how Cassidy would know their appearances.
Rip April hope your doing good ryetoast and I hope that you can process everything in a normal way and not feel pressured in to coming back while grieving
15:00 - There's a platypus controlling me, he's underneath the table!
@11:25 is the best ad read I've seen. Great video as always Rye!
the sheer logic and problem solving skill that this community has is astounding. peace to all ❤
I like this the first time I saw it when it was called Taken.
that gamersupps ad was insane
Monty giving the OK signal in the background is Chef's Kiss.
That was the best ad I've ever seen in my entire life lol
Came for the final lore stayed for the cat
I see you did a video on the 14 theory
14 PAGES
I gotta be honest, as interesting as this theory is I feel like it enables a LOT of wild reaches. if the theorist community starts trying to connect every instance of 14 or multiples of 14 back to Golden Freddy, I feel like it’s going to reach tinfoil hat conspiracy levels really fast. 😅
You think we haven't reached tinfoil hat levels a long time ago?
@@Influence417I keep trying to pretend we haven’t
@@daphnetrodon
With theories like Golden Duo and 14, how much is that faith holding up for ya?
@@Influence417 not much!
10:39 i don't like this argument because it relies on ignoring the fact that william's actions led to the deaths of not only henry, but also himself
Your cat learns so much FNAF lore from filming these videos.
14:58 looks like rye has a platypus controlling them
I feel like this is all a HUGE stretch but I guess it's possible
So now I'm through the video, and this being the topic of memory in the energy and all, I want to give a really neat example where this is shown in Security Breach
So if we take into consideration that the Mimic1 program sees and mimics the energy from the corrupted chip, when Cassie's Dad gets stuck in the StaffBot, his energy and memories are now witnessed by the Mimic.
This is why Roxy tells Cassies she "remembers" her. Her Dad traumatic moments in life was when Cassie was let down. The Mimic1 Program continued to Mimic her father the entire way too, even with Roxy jumping in the way and telling Cassie to run now. Its Mimicking being her father, because her father's emotional energy is a part of its charge now.
I just thought that was pretty neat and wanted to share
14 theory basically screams that the toyshnk needs to have a connection to Golden Freddy.
RTTP basically debunks Andrew/stitchline by having 5 kids in the MCI as well as removing TNK as Andrew’s only possible connection to Golden Freddy he has nothing.
Hell even curly hair isn’t his alone as Cassidy has curly hair in RTTP
I feel like it should be obvious Ngl, ESPECIALLY when there’s a “Mrs. Andrews” in TWB whom Ralph mentions “lost her daughter years ago” (could be Susie but like… why?)
The vengeful spirit is…
“Cassidy Andrews”
Additionally thing to mention about 14 theory:
In the Logbook, there are tally marks
The first page you find them on, there is 5
And the next time you see tally marks there is 9… right next to the girl with black hair.
14 total tally marks. Right next to Cassidy.
Funny huh.
Literally the new kid debunks cassidyTOYSNHK
@@Wizardjones69
Not really, we could very well be meant to interpret cassidy as a hypocrite who really does believe justice is payback deep down and kelsey's protests are just her trying to deflect that fact
@SeekerOfComfyness He literally killed kelsey because kelsey could be a future serial killer
Devon would be the vengeful spirit, since kelsey justice Isn't payback
@SeekerOfComfyness Kelsey raised his hand and said, “Justice balances the scales.” “What does that mean?” Mr. Gentry asked. “It removes the downside so the downside can’t outweigh the upside.” “Interesting perspective,” Mr. Gentry said.
Thats not payback
@@Wizardjones69 the new kid isn’t canon along with all of frights after RTTP finally debunked it so therefore it’s irrelevant.
And even if it wasn’t, the only remaining option with Andrewgames being debunked is BV toyshnk which requires MikeHell
Which is stupid.
Mike doesn’t deserve that.
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Ah well if your logic is that the one who is dominant has had to have witnessed those memories yes.
However, this energy they all are (which btw the fire destroyed the properties of remnant it didn't destroy the energy, by the Law of Conservation of Energy, you cannot destroy energy) is made up of their memories and they're all brought together. The dominant one (The one you should not have killed) doesn't necessarily have to have witnessed any animatronic at all, it could simply witness the memory of another energy.
This is also how the Mimic1 program knows of Afton. The energy in the corrupted chip is memory too, and the Mimic1 Program has been copying it.
If you remember Candy Cadet, all the stories revolve around 5 becoming one. That's what I believe the dolls are in HW2. The "remember Jeremy" achievement
Unbarable how long the jumpscares played at the intro to the video 🤣
10:27 Very minor point but I’m pretty sure that star is just reflecting the light from the ceiling lamp, and isn’t actually a different color. “Checking the files” also doesn’t mean anything in this context, because it’s a 2D image and not a 3D model.
That GamerSupps ad was more terrifying than anything in this franchise.
15:00 If I had a nickle for every fnaf theory talking about golden freddy I have watched that referenced Phineas and Ferb, I would have 2 nickles, which isn't a lot but its weird that it's happened twice.
This may seem dumb of me but i watched a theory video and im starting to wonder if Cassidy maybe got killed after the MCI?
There's actually a theory about Cassidy being THE dci victim, while Charlie being considered a part of the mci. I dont remember who made the video, but if you look for idk cassidy dci or charlie mci, you're bound to find something. Hope that helps with your theory-crafting!
@carimeslockdownedtree2654I believe Gibi's Horror homestead made that theory.
I think Andrew IS the vengeful spirit. Casidy is the game name of Charile (who is never named in games, just books). This would also support the theory that the puppet is trying to help Dave (the crying child) move on. In trying to unlock Dave's memories, she shares her name, Casidy. It also supports the 14 theory, if Casidy is the puppet, and Jake is the vengeful spirit. It pushs the important of the name Casidy as a pivotal character and Andrew keeping at victims total of 14.
Why are you counting Michael when Michael doesn't die until fnaf 6? Does he really count as a victim?
Marq is so real for NOPEing out the moment Reddit is mentioned
I didn’t even realize you made a joke at 14:57 because that just where my brain goes when anyone says that phrase. It wasn’t until you said “that was a dumb joke” then I realized