From an old, retired cop who worked in the big city, drawing our firearm while sitting was always best done with a cross-draw holster with the grip pointed to your shooting hand. This serves two purposes, one is that it is the fastest, second is that if someone approaches your car you can have a grip on your firearm without drawing, and no one knowing your advantage. When in your vehicle you do not have to cover access to the firearm. Give it a try, the proper holster for cross draw is the fastest, and you don't make the usual body movements to let on to what you did. You can always reposition your holster if you need to get out of your vehicle and cover up the firearm with clothing.
From another old retired cop. I agree. Best car carry I use is a Smith 625JM in a Galco cross draw holster. I got this holster for just this reason. Add a large speedloader carrier and I can carry three 6-rd moon clips stacked. These moon clips can be carried in both front vest or jacket pockets and the weight makes moving the outer wear away for the draw easier. A 4 or 5 o'clock pistol waist carry is problematic due to the seat belt. Appendix carry is acceptable depending upon the size of the pistol. I can carry small, medium or large pistol cross draw. It is the most natural for me. Good testing.
In questionable areas I keep my HP grip forward under my left thigh, otherwise in vehicle , like you in left holster grip forward. Speed is much less important than situational awareness. Also well to remember that your vehicle is weapon of choice- stay in it! Use it.
@@7gfh7 A standard holster will often have the pistol at an angle (FBI cant). When you slide it around to the other side, the grip is then canted away from the direction of draw. If you're going to carry concealed regularly, you WILL wind up with a holster collection. That's just the way it goes. ;)
I thought the same thing. He said the shoulder harness wasn't a problem but for sure it would be when I did the same thing! That said, I would never carry in the glovebox...
@@TheFus The citizens can FORCE the change by refusing to comply with the tyranny. Example: If I am EVER in a jury for citizen being charged for owning a firearm, that they bought with their own money, they WILL NOT get that guilty verdict from me whether the citizen is a convicted felon or not. If I can get the rest in the jury to agree with me, NOT GUILTY. Jury nullification is an AWESOME way to telling the sniveling, cowardly, SERVANTS in government, "Uh, I don't think so, buddy."
I carry on my left 10 o’clock position for cross draw, because the seat belt shuts down the right side draw . It also is better in winter rather than trying to uncover the right side to clear all the clothes. Real life is different than pretend.
Remember folks, this guy isn't your average commuter Joe who goes home at night and watches TV. This guy is highly trained with weapons and tactics and knows far more than what's being demonstrated here. The only way you're going to increase your speed and accuracy, no matter how you choose (or are forced) to carry is to practice, practice, practice.
I'm 72 and know a lot more than most young people. But sometimes even a fossil can learn from a younger person. This man has extensive experiences with firearms in recent times. I've been out of the Army for over 50 years and many things have disappeared from memory. I appreciate this young man offering his expertise.
@@Bob-rd9vd I appreciate it too, just saying he's got a lot more time in the saddle than most folks. I'm 66 and don't have that kind of time in that saddle. And for sure a bit less limber :)
I have been a member since 2016 with USCCA.I'm in a wheelchair when I drive i keep mine on one of the earth Double magnet. I have it mounted on the side of the Council the way I have it setup where so easy to get to. I have never had it fall off. Its a GLock 31 gen4 357sig I live out in the country have a lot of land I practice at least 3 to 4 times a month. I live in Central Missouri I love the Missouri gun laws. I have a mount on my wheelchair has a nice cover that slides over the pistol an pulls straight up. Best thing I ever got an peace of mind God forbid never have to use it.
Thanks for the video. As retired LEO and ex mil,,,i have adjusted my carry to owb, cross draw, adjusted cant holster (Alien Gear). Holster fits tight to belly, and sitting/driving doesn't dig into belly and is an easy, and discreet draw. For longer drives/trips, I also use a dash mounted holster that sits between my knees, is also an easy, discreet draw, and firearm can be transferred to your belly holster before exiting vehicle. There are several options and i thank you for your insight and video.
I carry an XDs on me. There is an XD in the center console. Both of them are in a holster. I would never carry a weapon not in a holster. In South Carolina we can carry a gun anywhere in the car we wish to. When entering a lower value real estate area I take it out of the console and put it in a cubby hole at the front of the console. I can access it instantly. My pepper spray is there as well. I have never needed any of these items and I hope to keep it that way. Avoidance is better than evading evading is better than deescalating deescalating is better than fighting fighting is better than dying
I'm a left hander that has had to adapt to the right handers world so many of us have become ambidextrous to some extent. Lefthander appendix carry is a no go in a car. Right hand handgun handling in the car is a must regardless of which hand is dominant. In Idaho we have fewer restriction on weapons carry so anyplace you put a weapon is ok in most circumstances is ok. No matter what position or location you park your weapon you need to train to bring it to bear safely as if you have loved ones in the vehicle. I hope it never happens.
What about clipping an IWB holster on your seatbelt? The seatbelt keeps it flat on your body. You can slide it up and down, for comfort and accessibility.
Thanks for the video - I normally carry 2 handguns one at 4 O'clock and one in an ankle holster (Alien Gear Shape Shift package). I also use the Alien gear car holster on my front seat. I haven't timed myself, but I will probably do that this weekend. The car holster has a thumb release making it a little safer to carry in the car. I always put the gun from my ankle holster in the car holster. I decided to do this because it is easier to draw from the front seat holster than to reach around the seatbelt to my regular carry gun. I practice with both positions. For me using the ankle holster and the front seat holster makes sense since it is not normally possible for anyone to see me move my gun from one place to the other which provides for a little more security/safety. The front seat holster is also harder to see from outside the vehicle, but is always in easy reach.
If you want to quick draw in your vehicle, put your pistol or rifle on your dash. I am a contractor with lots of tools and tool bags in my crew cab truck. If you break into my truck to steal tools, you might luck out and get my gun, but I doubt it. I might not be able to get a rifle out in a split second, but in an actual situation, I am not one to get in a panic about it. I am not at war, so it will be what it will be. I have had many real-life situations where I have been shot at, and had a gun held to my head by a robber, and others, including police officers. In none of those situations would it have been advantageous for me to have quick access to my firearm. LOL! I carry, but real situations involve knowing yourself, and your surroundings and the repercussions. Life is not a video game. I grew up with a rifle rack in the rear window of my truck. Still have one, but know it holds four-foot levels. Because society is stupid now, more so than it was before. Disrespectful and easily manipulated and divided. I am getting older obviously, so it will not be my problem for too much longer, God help the rest of you.
I drive around the Country A LOT & drawing from strong side hip while sitting behind the steering wheel...especially if sealt belted in...is slow, awkward, & telegraphs the draw.... My solution is to carry exactly what I did for decades as a L.E.O. ... primary handgun strong side hip & backup Model 642 revolver in an ankle holster... drawing from the ankle while seated is smooth & fast ..so is drawing from a shoulder holster while seated.... Carrying two pistols gives flexibility also because if I need to enter areas where more discretion is necessary, I can leave the larger primary sidearm in my vehicle lockbox & pocket carry the 642.
Off body sling bag works for me if I'm not getting out the car but once I'm walking standing I appendix it.. keeping the sling bag open at the ready cut down the time
While Pennsylvania is an open carry state DO NOT place your firearm in the Glove Box while driving. If seen it is a Felony and up to 7 years if you Do Not have a Concealed Carry Permit. I’ve had it happen to me and it’s not pretty. Totally clean record mind you and it took almost two years to get it Expunged from my record. It is now. $15000 later and probation of 1 1/2 years. My “ permit” had run out. But oddly to me at least if it left it on the seat when I stepped out to get a soda that would have been legal on my dash would have been legal. But I considered that irresponsible to leave it exposed. FYI I do have an active “permit “ now.
That's absolutely ridiculous. In Florida you can carry a firearm in your vehicle as long as it's concealed and not accessible for immediate use - glove box, center console, in a case etc. With a level 2 retention holster you can place it anywhere in the vehicle except on your person. You need a CCL to have it on your person.. which is kinda dumb since it's a permitless carry state now. Some laws are just senseless
Actually, in Pennsylvania, as soon as you enter the vehicle with a firearm, it is considered concealed. It doesn't matter if you have it open on your person or not. Make sure you have a license to carry before entering a vehicle with a firearm.
@@jimchrist9749 actually I was going to see my daughter in her hospital (long term) and didn’t want to carry inside.But I knew I was screwed. There was no way they’d believe that was the true reason. But I was a mess that day. Everything that could go wrong that day did. 65/66 years old and my world disappeared. Luckily I got out quick enough to save my house. I’m a disabled veteran and on social security and both would have been lost. I had no idea about getting lawyers and bail bondsman’s. First thing they do is put you in quarantine for 3 days. After 2 days another person came in so I was in Quarantine for 5 days. As soon as I was allowed a phone call I got the bondsman and was out that afternoon. My world had been turned upside down. I was an accused felon. My lawyer did the rest to get it cleared out. But it took a shrink and 18 months of severe probation to do it. I got off early only because of Covid. They didn’t want anyone traveling to the office every day.
I use a WeThePeople Holster and I also have their holster mount. I'm a lefty so I have the mount under my dash above my left knee, super quick access and keeps my EDC holstered, safe and under my direct control the whole time.
As a left handed shooter, I have a rare earth magnet on my door. I attach my firearm to the magnet as soon as I shut the door. It is great! My body conceals the pistol from visibility. Another benefit is not needing to wrestle with the seatbelt. With the firearm in my IWB holster, the seatbelt makes it uncomfortable to wear and challenging to draw…
Not admitting to anything here but my Chrysler 300 has a cup holder in the door. No clue why either, it sits mid calf. But…again, just a gut feeling here, but I bet that a Walther PPQ 9mm in a DeSantis pocket holder would fit in that door cup holder absolutely perfectly.
I have a similar setup with my Taurus g3 and the cup holder in my Toyota venza… I’m a left handed shooter, and it’s a hell of a lot easier getting my firearm from the door than on my hip
Good video. Only other variable/consideration I’d offer, is that with a glove box “carry” you run the risk of the threat scenario locking your seatbelt preventing you from being able to reach the glove box. Love what you shared about muscle memory. Which is why I carry on me 99% of the time.
12:56 regarding transporting the handgun in the trunk/locked box, this is pertaining to “TRANSPORTING” only (i.e. taking the gun to the range or bringing the gun home) not to have for self-defense just in case you need it. Dumb, I know, but I was looking into it last month
I think it all comes down to the person, what they are comfortable with and what state they live in. I can tell you, I have my preferred method and I am so glad I live in the state of Arizona. I will leave it at that.
in my unprofessional humble opinion... if someone is in a car and travels a lot, a shoulder rig is the right answer... you can use a toilet without disarming too...
That's a great point about toilet time. Worked at a lowes for a period of time and pistols left in bathroom stalls happened often including a police officer leaving one. Often wondered how many didn't get turned in!
@@jerrymason7887 I feel yer pain.. I also live in a desert area... a T-Shirt with a loose fitting Hawaiian unbuttoned shirt over the top seems to be a satisfactory option...
Also, you'd need to lock the glove box if children were in the car, to prevent them from finding and "playing" with it. Would add too much time to unlock, open, then draw
Nowadays many threats come from inside your vehicle by a welcomed or unwelcome guest. Learning to carry and shoot from the opposite hand is crucial. Also understanding how to shoot when the blast and casing will most likely be in your face is extremely important. Nobody is talking about this
@@Ben-qm9zq Extremely crucial point. Grip, and what hand you employ notwithstanding, firing a gun (even "only" 9mm) within the confines of a vehicle SUCKS. Anyone who hasn't experienced this - I urge you to try it, Please be safe and wear proper ear and eye pro, but also use that as a lesson that will hint at how absolutely dogshit miserable firing a weapon in a car is. If you need you, you won't have hearing protection. Not only that, but the percussive blast is... Disorienting, to say the least. IF you can, getting the muzzle out the window will help. Slightly. Chances are, you may not be afforded that luxury. Be prepared for that percussive blast. It'll suck.
@awkwardme5375 💯 % however, again, if your opponent is within the vehicle it'd be rather difficult to have the muzzle outside the window! 🤣 I might suggest that if you can put that biAtch against your attacker. This will still suck but may help some. Driver's of public passengers be aware! Also, if you opt for pepper spray, make sure it's a spray and not a stream if possible, for obvious reasons I think. Harder to accurately target the attacker with a stream.
Crossdraw ( from the waistband ) is faster than appendix carry. Wear on left side in front of seatbelt. If your righthanded and drive in America. Lefthanded crossdraw is still quick ( carried waistband right side ) but more movement involved! :))
I have an F250 pick up truck with two rare earth magnets on the front of my center console my sigsauer P3 65 rides on the magnets until I get out of my vehicle then I put it in my holster and carry it, as soon as I get back to my truck, I put them back on the magnets
Couple of other things: 1. Those magnet mounts don't offer a trigger guard. 2. If you're having to draw your weapon while attempting to drive away from a threat, unlocking that safe or needing both hands to open any container would be a nightmare.
The one I have has a rack stop on it, so I just push forward with one hand it's rack the weapon and you can grab, rack and pull the weapon up all in one fast motion.
When he said "Trunk Monkey" I just knew he was gonna hit a button and the camera man would pop out the trunk with a street sweeper. THAT is the best choice for me. With the added benefit of you being able to pull a pistol off the magnetic sheath at the same time.
I once bought a carry fannypack I took the velcro holster out and stuck it to my cloth seat between the seat and the console. Quick to get and easy to transition from on body to the seat and much easier to access in an emergency
I would add one thing to your video. You can practice until you get very fast. Just remember when the fit hits the Shan a lot of thoughts will be going through your mind and it will probably take longer than you think. Great video. 👍
-- Have mine holster-clipped to the map compartment in the driver's side door. I'm left handed. Downside is when I open that door, I have to park (or look out) to make sure no one is in an easy position to see it. Best thing you can do is (weapon cleared) test your arm length, the angle in which that's going to be natural for you to grab. But if you're going to have a 'truck gun' have one on your person too.
The stopbox car safe is Amazing, you should try one out. It not only allows for storage safety when you are not allowed or able to carry, but deployment is fast and reliable.
In North Carolina you have two options. Open carry with the weapon on the center console so it's clearly visible to the officer if you are stopped. If you have your CCW then it can be anywhere either on your person or in the vehicle. I'm no attorney just someone who carries 24/7 and this has been my experience and what I was taught in my classes. This applies only to North Carolina.
Take out of holdster on body and have a simple loop holdster on the map pocket on the side of my console by my knee. When out of the vehicle, reholdster appendix. Takes the seatbelt out of the equation and more comfortable. Prob in your test, would be a bit quicker than the magnet in console. Simply because it’s in a natural reach position, stable, and right at your knee.
If I'm going to my trunk for a weapon it's a long gun like an AR pistol or more likely my AKM with a side folding triangle stock. Sure if I am forced to travel to a state like CA I'll do what I need to do, but I always keep a gun on my person, & is one consideration as to why I transitioned to appendix from 3 o'clock as it was just that more accessible while in the driver's seat.
I appendix carry in the car. But I also prepare before I pull off. I tuck my shirt and my seatbelt behind my holster. So my firearm is exposed while im driving. I'll never have to move my shirt and seatbelt to get to my firearm if i need it in a pinch.
I have a uKoala bag that has a strap that can go cross-body, as well as a thigh strap. When I'm driving, I can shift the bag to my lap, and it seems fairly fast. I haven't timed it, but is more comfortable for summer shorts wear.
Thank you for such an informative video!! I came across your channel a few days & became a subscriber. As a female, I've been a lot from your videos, & I also share them with my husband. Your videos are also quite practical, esp. for people who are new (and getting acquainted) to carry. Keep up the wonderful work! The U.S
Great video! Options to consider and some not. I personally run a Gum Creek mount under the steering column in both of my vehicles. Easy to mount and they stay in place when adjusted properly. They will accept many different types of holsters with extra mag pouch or not. The firearm is sitting basically between my knees and is accessible within no time. Fairly well hidden as well unless your really looking around in the vehicle.
I have a custom bar in the center console that is like a rigid belt for my whole holster to mount to. Gun stays in the appendix holster, in the center console with pretty quick access. Muscle memory has me placing it in and back to appendix when I get in and out. It's the best I came up with. Fortunately on the rare occasion I choose to leave it in the console, my truck locks the console with the truck.
Thanks for another great video ... I enjoy watching what comes from your You Tube channel. I training and lots of repetitive training to get an individual's response time as low as possible is a HUGE factor. Another big factor is being able to keep a cool head and composure when you are under severe pressure.
Interesting video with expected results. Some other options for on body carry are a shoulder holster if you have a cove garment, cross draw belt carry if you have a big belly, and ankle carry for a small gun.
Gonna have to speed test my custom overhead console with a hidden trap door that gravity drops an inverted firearm by my right ear on drawer slides with magnetic mount. Firearm deploys in a consistent predictable spot where my hand naturally goes (like holding a phone to your ear). It’s pretty fast when you get down the hidden button location, but precisely finding that button in a stress situation could be the slow part and I’m workshopping a quicker option. But I love that when it’s closed, nobody has been able to find the firearm, even when I tell them exactly where it is. So maybe take the good with the bad? Still think I can be sub 3 seconds if I duplicate your testing. Great video, time for some R&D.
From a seated position, shoulder holster or cross draw, IMHO would be best. But both only work for some people. If you have a big belly and or short arms, you can't hardly reach the gun. However, crossdraw on the strong side, which is same as the old reverse draw, could still work for especially left handers, since the seatbelt wouldn't be in the way as bad. I am left handed and carry in a strong side Milt Sparks holster for my Lightweight Commander, but also keep a Glock 22 under the armrest of my pickup. Either one is probably a 3 second draw to first shot for me. Not great, but hopefully with being alert, (code Yellow), I can see trouble coming, granted that's not always to be depended on.
I carry concealed on my side or cross chest bag made for weapon concealment when driving. If i need to enter a building where no weapons are allowed ( bank, courthouse, etc;), then i place my gun in a lock box that is cabled to the seats metal frame.
I found that a holster mounted to the side of the center console, between the center console and the seat, works extremely well for me. I mounted a kydex holster thats tilted forward somewhat is perfect for me. You can even mount a kydex reload next to it. If im entering a situation where it looks like it could be sketchy, i can go ahead and get my grip on the pistol while driving with the other hand.
Very good comparison demonstration. One question though. Since in California, are you allowed to preload the shotgun, as was shown in the demonstration? Certainly, it would have taken even more time if loading was needed. The point was still proven that trunk carry is very low on the list of carry alternatives, either way.
I’d go a step further and not have an extra holster, but place the holstered gun between the seat and console and then place the holstered firearm in my waistband when exiting. You don’t want to be reholstering a loaded gun while seated.
I've done this drill actually driving with a sest belt. You have to stop, put it in park (or stay on the brake), draw with the seat belt on, fire, thrn make your next move. Much more complex
Since I typically carry in an OWB holster on my right side, I found this to be a problem with reaching it and getting tangled with the seat belt. So I installed a holster to my center console of the truck. Ir is about mid thigh and very easy to aquire.
Maybe mount it in some molded foam. That way you can even have your hand on the gun when you mold it giving you exclusive access to your burner. Just a thought
If you're drawing from a sitting position the Army Calvary draw already solved this issue for you. It's the fastest, most comfortable, way to wear a sidearm when sitting alot and need to draw while sitting.
im in nc and have my cc permit. keep my 19 in a safariland holster under and behind passenger seat. got a feeling its way suboptimal… tks for the video and ideas!
I'm sure someone already said this but I would stress that you're more than likely wearing a seatbelt. So the appendix carry draw will add more time for the disengaging of the belt or even trying to manipulate it out of your way.
Can you do another version of this video for those of us who are left hand dominant? Carrying in my car is my least favorite because there is no good place to conceal it where I can easily access it.
Thanks brother I have done some similar tests a ridge mount holster was that answer for me so it’s the same every time an in the dark you know exactly how an wear to grab great vid 👊
A friend of mine has his on one of those gun magnets mounted on the right side of the floorboard and beside his right leg, at about the 4 o'clock position & beside his right leg, and upside down as well, butt end/grips sticking up (towards him of course). Easily reachable, and dark tinted windows keeps it out of plain view
Great job! I'd be willing say that you could multiply each time that you registered times 2 or even times 3 for the average Joe You were bringing the smoke quick given the scenarios.
i didn't go through all the comments so i apologize if someone already mentioned it. If you are still rolling at all and braking, the seatbelt will engage and if the gun is in the glove box, you're screwed.
I assume a lot of people don't have an upper glove box area. Mine only has a lower glove box and grabbing a gun while seat belted in would be difficult.
From an old, retired cop who worked in the big city, drawing our firearm while sitting was always best done with a cross-draw holster with the grip pointed to your shooting hand. This serves two purposes, one is that it is the fastest, second is that if someone approaches your car you can have a grip on your firearm without drawing, and no one knowing your advantage. When in your vehicle you do not have to cover access to the firearm. Give it a try, the proper holster for cross draw is the fastest, and you don't make the usual body movements to let on to what you did. You can always reposition your holster if you need to get out of your vehicle and cover up the firearm with clothing.
From another old retired cop. I agree. Best car carry I use is a Smith 625JM in a Galco cross draw holster. I got this holster for just this reason. Add a large speedloader carrier and I can carry three 6-rd moon clips stacked. These moon clips can be carried in both front vest or jacket pockets and the weight makes moving the outer wear away for the draw easier. A 4 or 5 o'clock pistol waist carry is problematic due to the seat belt. Appendix carry is acceptable depending upon the size of the pistol. I can carry small, medium or large pistol cross draw. It is the most natural for me. Good testing.
In questionable areas I keep my HP grip forward under my left thigh, otherwise in vehicle , like you in left holster grip forward. Speed is much less important than situational awareness. Also well to remember that your vehicle is weapon of choice- stay in it! Use it.
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Another old ex cop here. I like my Galco vertical shoulder rig in my truck and on my Harley.
@@7gfh7 A standard holster will often have the pistol at an angle (FBI cant). When you slide it around to the other side, the grip is then canted away from the direction of draw. If you're going to carry concealed regularly, you WILL wind up with a holster collection. That's just the way it goes. ;)
Quickly reaching for the glove box may lock your shoulder strap causing an even greater delay.
I thought the same thing. He said the shoulder harness wasn't a problem but for sure it would be when I did the same thing!
That said, I would never carry in the glovebox...
Moral of the story, Get out of California. Live in a Free State.
Or Massachusetts...lol
Stop running away from the fight 😂😂😂😂
Another moral: stop voting democrat.
Leaving doesn't fix the problem, it just exports it. Stay put, stop paying taxes and vote for change.
@@TheFus The citizens can FORCE the change by refusing to comply with the tyranny. Example: If I am EVER in a jury for citizen being charged for owning a firearm, that they bought with their own money, they WILL NOT get that guilty verdict from me whether the citizen is a convicted felon or not. If I can get the rest in the jury to agree with me, NOT GUILTY. Jury nullification is an AWESOME way to telling the sniveling, cowardly, SERVANTS in government, "Uh, I don't think so, buddy."
I carry on my left 10 o’clock position for cross draw, because the seat belt shuts down the right side draw . It also is better in winter rather than trying to uncover the right side to clear all the clothes.
Real life is different than pretend.
Thx!!
Remember folks, this guy isn't your average commuter Joe who goes home at night and watches TV. This guy is highly trained with weapons and tactics and knows far more than what's being demonstrated here. The only way you're going to increase your speed and accuracy, no matter how you choose (or are forced) to carry is to practice, practice, practice.
I'm 72 and know a lot more than most young people. But sometimes even a fossil can learn from a younger person. This man has extensive experiences with firearms in recent times. I've been out of the Army for over 50 years and many things have disappeared from memory. I appreciate this young man offering his expertise.
@@Bob-rd9vd I appreciate it too, just saying he's got a lot more time in the saddle than most folks. I'm 66 and don't have that kind of time in that saddle. And for sure a bit less limber :)
The main point is he shows the fastest and slowest methods to carry.
I have been a member since 2016 with USCCA.I'm in a wheelchair when I drive i keep mine on one of the earth Double magnet. I have it mounted on the side of the Council the way I have it setup where so easy to get to. I have never had it fall off. Its a GLock 31 gen4 357sig I live out in the country have a lot of land I practice at least 3 to 4 times a month. I live in Central Missouri I love the Missouri gun laws. I have a mount on my wheelchair has a nice cover that slides over the pistol an pulls straight up. Best thing I ever got an peace of mind God forbid never have to use it.
Thank you for being a member for so long! 🙂
Thanks for the video. As retired LEO and ex mil,,,i have adjusted my carry to owb, cross draw, adjusted cant holster (Alien Gear). Holster fits tight to belly, and sitting/driving doesn't dig into belly and is an easy, and discreet draw. For longer drives/trips, I also use a dash mounted holster that sits between my knees, is also an easy, discreet draw, and firearm can be transferred to your belly holster before exiting vehicle. There are several options and i thank you for your insight and video.
Crossbody bag with quick release strap is my go to…. Fast, Seatbelt is no issue and have my extra mag too… gotta love Texas 😊
I carry an XDs on me. There is an XD in the center console. Both of them are in a holster. I would never carry a weapon not in a holster. In South Carolina we can carry a gun anywhere in the car we wish to. When entering a lower value real estate area I take it out of the console and put it in a cubby hole at the front of the console. I can access it instantly. My pepper spray is there as well. I have never needed any of these items and I hope to keep it that way.
Avoidance is better than evading
evading is better than deescalating
deescalating is better than fighting
fighting is better than dying
Thank you for your service, Sir!
I'm a left hander that has had to adapt to the right handers world so many of us have become ambidextrous to some extent. Lefthander appendix carry is a no go in a car. Right hand handgun handling in the car is a must regardless of which hand is dominant. In Idaho we have fewer restriction on weapons carry so anyplace you put a weapon is ok in most circumstances is ok. No matter what position or location you park your weapon you need to train to bring it to bear safely as if you have loved ones in the vehicle. I hope it never happens.
Yep…
What about clipping an IWB holster on your seatbelt? The seatbelt keeps it flat on your body. You can slide it up and down, for comfort and accessibility.
I carry with holster between drivers seat and center console, easy and quick to get out
Thanks for the video - I normally carry 2 handguns one at 4 O'clock and one in an ankle holster (Alien Gear Shape Shift package). I also use the Alien gear car holster on my front seat. I haven't timed myself, but I will probably do that this weekend. The car holster has a thumb release making it a little safer to carry in the car. I always put the gun from my ankle holster in the car holster. I decided to do this because it is easier to draw from the front seat holster than to reach around the seatbelt to my regular carry gun. I practice with both positions. For me using the ankle holster and the front seat holster makes sense since it is not normally possible for anyone to see me move my gun from one place to the other which provides for a little more security/safety. The front seat holster is also harder to see from outside the vehicle, but is always in easy reach.
If you want to quick draw in your vehicle, put your pistol or rifle on your dash. I am a contractor with lots of tools and tool bags in my crew cab truck. If you break into my truck to steal tools, you might luck out and get my gun, but I doubt it. I might not be able to get a rifle out in a split second, but in an actual situation, I am not one to get in a panic about it. I am not at war, so it will be what it will be. I have had many real-life situations where I have been shot at, and had a gun held to my head by a robber, and others, including police officers. In none of those situations would it have been advantageous for me to have quick access to my firearm. LOL! I carry, but real situations involve knowing yourself, and your surroundings and the repercussions. Life is not a video game. I grew up with a rifle rack in the rear window of my truck. Still have one, but know it holds four-foot levels. Because society is stupid now, more so than it was before. Disrespectful and easily manipulated and divided. I am getting older obviously, so it will not be my problem for too much longer, God help the rest of you.
I drive around the Country A LOT & drawing from strong side hip while sitting behind the steering wheel...especially if sealt belted in...is slow, awkward, & telegraphs the draw....
My solution is to carry exactly what I did for decades as a L.E.O. ... primary handgun strong side hip & backup Model 642 revolver in an ankle holster... drawing from the ankle while seated is smooth & fast ..so is drawing from a shoulder holster while seated....
Carrying two pistols gives flexibility also because if I need to enter areas where more discretion is necessary, I can leave the larger primary sidearm in my vehicle lockbox & pocket carry the 642.
This is what Massad Ayoob recommends, the ankle holster.
Off body sling bag works for me if I'm not getting out the car but once I'm walking standing I appendix it.. keeping the sling bag open at the ready cut down the time
While Pennsylvania is an open carry state DO NOT place your firearm in the Glove Box while driving. If seen it is a Felony and up to 7 years if you Do Not have a Concealed Carry Permit. I’ve had it happen to me and it’s not pretty. Totally clean record mind you and it took almost two years to get it Expunged from my record. It is now. $15000 later and probation of 1 1/2 years. My “ permit” had run out. But oddly to me at least if it left it on the seat when I stepped out to get a soda that would have been legal on my dash would have been legal. But I considered that irresponsible to leave it exposed. FYI I do have an active “permit “ now.
That's absolutely ridiculous. In Florida you can carry a firearm in your vehicle as long as it's concealed and not accessible for immediate use - glove box, center console, in a case etc. With a level 2 retention holster you can place it anywhere in the vehicle except on your person. You need a CCL to have it on your person.. which is kinda dumb since it's a permitless carry state now. Some laws are just senseless
Actually, in Pennsylvania, as soon as you enter the vehicle with a firearm, it is considered concealed. It doesn't matter if you have it open on your person or not. Make sure you have a license to carry before entering a vehicle with a firearm.
@@jimchrist9749 actually I was going to see my daughter in her hospital (long term) and didn’t want to carry inside.But I knew I was screwed. There was no way they’d believe that was the true reason. But I was a mess that day. Everything that could go wrong that day did. 65/66 years old and my world disappeared. Luckily I got out quick enough to save my house. I’m a disabled veteran and on social security and both would have been lost. I had no idea about getting lawyers and bail bondsman’s. First thing they do is put you in quarantine for 3 days. After 2 days another person came in so I was in Quarantine for 5 days. As soon as I was allowed a phone call I got the bondsman and was out that afternoon. My world had been turned upside down. I was an accused felon. My lawyer did the rest to get it cleared out. But it took a shrink and 18 months of severe probation to do it. I got off early only because of Covid. They didn’t want anyone traveling to the office every day.
@@jimchrist9749if I have a NC ccp, can I carry in my car in PA and on my person?
@@jimchrist9749hunting Rifle?
I use a WeThePeople Holster and I also have their holster mount. I'm a lefty so I have the mount under my dash above my left knee, super quick access and keeps my EDC holstered, safe and under my direct control the whole time.
As a left handed shooter, I have a rare earth magnet on my door. I attach my firearm to the magnet as soon as I shut the door. It is great! My body conceals the pistol from visibility. Another benefit is not needing to wrestle with the seatbelt. With the firearm in my IWB holster, the seatbelt makes it uncomfortable to wear and challenging to draw…
I use an AlienGear holster velcro’d to the driver side of center console. Works great and is easily accessible.
Not admitting to anything here but my Chrysler 300 has a cup holder in the door. No clue why either, it sits mid calf. But…again, just a gut feeling here, but I bet that a Walther PPQ 9mm in a DeSantis pocket holder would fit in that door cup holder absolutely perfectly.
I have a similar setup with my Taurus g3 and the cup holder in my Toyota venza… I’m a left handed shooter, and it’s a hell of a lot easier getting my firearm from the door than on my hip
My intuition says "Listen to his intuition".
Intuition is like that sometimes. It's cross intuition I suppose.
@@davidgraham2673I heard Democrats are offering free tuition or something like that.
@@MyRadicalLife , I hope it doesn't come to "fruition".....
@@Afro-Spider309 I have the Taurus G3 as well. How do you like the gun?
found this video insightful on practical ways to responsibly carry inside a vehicle.
Good stuff - concealed carry for sure. Thank you USCCA👍🏾👍🏾
Good video. Only other variable/consideration I’d offer, is that with a glove box “carry” you run the risk of the threat scenario locking your seatbelt preventing you from being able to reach the glove box. Love what you shared about muscle memory. Which is why I carry on me 99% of the time.
I live in the free state of Arkansas...constitutional carry in full effect here. I can have mine anywhere.
12:56 regarding transporting the handgun in the trunk/locked box, this is pertaining to “TRANSPORTING” only (i.e. taking the gun to the range or bringing the gun home) not to have for self-defense just in case you need it. Dumb, I know, but I was looking into it last month
I think it all comes down to the person, what they are comfortable with and what state they live in. I can tell you, I have my preferred method and I am so glad I live in the state of Arizona. I will leave it at that.
in my unprofessional humble opinion... if someone is in a car and travels a lot, a shoulder rig is the right answer... you can use a toilet without disarming too...
Yup, for someone who drives a lot, a shoulder holster is great as is an ankle holster...👍👍
That's a great point about toilet time. Worked at a lowes for a period of time and pistols left in bathroom stalls happened often including a police officer leaving one. Often wondered how many didn't get turned in!
The 80s ruined shoulder rigs. And Dobermans.😐
You kinda have to have a jacket for that, though. And I live in Texas. It is too hot to wear a jacket 90% of the time.
@@jerrymason7887 I feel yer pain.. I also live in a desert area... a T-Shirt with a loose fitting Hawaiian unbuttoned shirt over the top seems to be a satisfactory option...
opening a glove box or a gun vault with divided attention under stress = disaster!
Also, you'd need to lock the glove box if children were in the car, to prevent them from finding and "playing" with it. Would add too much time to unlock, open, then draw
Nowadays many threats come from inside your vehicle by a welcomed or unwelcome guest. Learning to carry and shoot from the opposite hand is crucial. Also understanding how to shoot when the blast and casing will most likely be in your face is extremely important. Nobody is talking about this
@@Ben-qm9zq Extremely crucial point. Grip, and what hand you employ notwithstanding, firing a gun (even "only" 9mm) within the confines of a vehicle SUCKS. Anyone who hasn't experienced this - I urge you to try it, Please be safe and wear proper ear and eye pro, but also use that as a lesson that will hint at how absolutely dogshit miserable firing a weapon in a car is.
If you need you, you won't have hearing protection. Not only that, but the percussive blast is... Disorienting, to say the least.
IF you can, getting the muzzle out the window will help. Slightly. Chances are, you may not be afforded that luxury. Be prepared for that percussive blast. It'll suck.
@awkwardme5375 💯 % however, again, if your opponent is within the vehicle it'd be rather difficult to have the muzzle outside the window! 🤣 I might suggest that if you can put that biAtch against your attacker. This will still suck but may help some. Driver's of public passengers be aware! Also, if you opt for pepper spray, make sure it's a spray and not a stream if possible, for obvious reasons I think. Harder to accurately target the attacker with a stream.
Great demonstration and information.
Informative video, thanks for going through the effort. It made me very happy I live in Georgia and not California.
Crossdraw ( from the waistband ) is faster than appendix carry. Wear on left side in front of seatbelt. If your righthanded and drive in America. Lefthanded crossdraw is still quick ( carried waistband right side ) but more movement involved! :))
I have an F250 pick up truck with two rare earth magnets on the front of my center console my sigsauer P3 65 rides on the magnets until I get out of my vehicle then I put it in my holster and carry it, as soon as I get back to my truck, I put them back on the magnets
Couple of other things:
1. Those magnet mounts don't offer a trigger guard.
2. If you're having to draw your weapon while attempting to drive away from a threat, unlocking that safe or needing both hands to open any container would be a nightmare.
Some mag mounts do offer trigger guard.
With the magnet mount that is why I practice so much Is muscle memory with your finger . I am 60 years old
If you get into anything more than a minor collision and are using a magnet mount, your loaded gun just turned into a flying projectile…
They make kydex trigger guard clips attached to paracord lanyards
The one I have has a rack stop on it, so I just push forward with one hand it's rack the weapon and you can grab, rack and pull the weapon up all in one fast motion.
The 945 industries bag would probably be the best option. Would like to see you do this with that bag.
"California Department of Justice" That is the Oxymoron of the century.
When he said "Trunk Monkey" I just knew he was gonna hit a button and the camera man would pop out the trunk with a street sweeper. THAT is the best choice for me. With the added benefit of you being able to pull a pistol off the magnetic sheath at the same time.
Department of No Justice
I once bought a carry fannypack I took the velcro holster out and stuck it to my cloth seat between the seat and the console. Quick to get and easy to transition from on body to the seat and much easier to access in an emergency
I have a holster mount next to my right leg in my truck, love having it that accessible.
I would add one thing to your video. You can practice until you get very fast. Just remember when the fit hits the Shan a lot of thoughts will be going through your mind and it will probably take longer than you think. Great video. 👍
Thanks for doing this video, was just talking with a friend about console safes versus cable-locked boxes.
-- Have mine holster-clipped to the map compartment in the driver's side door. I'm left handed. Downside is when I open that door, I have to park (or look out) to make sure no one is in an easy position to see it. Best thing you can do is (weapon cleared) test your arm length, the angle in which that's going to be natural for you to grab. But if you're going to have a 'truck gun' have one on your person too.
Good show...thanks!
The stopbox car safe is Amazing, you should try one out. It not only allows for storage safety when you are not allowed or able to carry, but deployment is fast and reliable.
This made me think.
In North Carolina you have two options. Open carry with the weapon on the center console so it's clearly visible to the officer if you are stopped. If you have your CCW then it can be anywhere either on your person or in the vehicle. I'm no attorney just someone who carries 24/7 and this has been my experience and what I was taught in my classes. This applies only to North Carolina.
I have a Dodge ram 1500 as well in between the seat where your seatbelt buckles for me it’s a perfect draw and it stays right there. It’s perfect.
Ankle holster, shoulder holster. Both great for driving.
Great video, and man are you fast! Makes me realize I need to practice doing this.
Take out of holdster on body and have a simple loop holdster on the map pocket on the side of my console by my knee. When out of the vehicle, reholdster appendix. Takes the seatbelt out of the equation and more comfortable. Prob in your test, would be a bit quicker than the magnet in console. Simply because it’s in a natural reach position, stable, and right at your knee.
Cross body draw (for states where conceal carry is legal) times?
If I'm going to my trunk for a weapon it's a long gun like an AR pistol or more likely my AKM with a side folding triangle stock. Sure if I am forced to travel to a state like CA I'll do what I need to do, but I always keep a gun on my person, & is one consideration as to why I transitioned to appendix from 3 o'clock as it was just that more accessible while in the driver's seat.
MY concern about the Glove Box, is that you took your Eyes OFF the threat!
Awesome presentation, thanks for the great content.
I appendix carry in the car. But I also prepare before I pull off. I tuck my shirt and my seatbelt behind my holster. So my firearm is exposed while im driving. I'll never have to move my shirt and seatbelt to get to my firearm if i need it in a pinch.
I have a uKoala bag that has a strap that can go cross-body, as well as a thigh strap. When I'm driving, I can shift the bag to my lap, and it seems fairly fast. I haven't timed it, but is more comfortable for summer shorts wear.
I keep mine in my holster all of the time. Between 2 and 3.
Thank you for such an informative video!! I came across your channel a few days & became a subscriber. As a female, I've been a lot from your videos, & I also share them with my husband. Your videos are also quite practical, esp. for people who are new (and getting acquainted) to carry. Keep up the wonderful work!
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Great video! Options to consider and some not. I personally run a Gum Creek mount under the steering column in both of my vehicles. Easy to mount and they stay in place when adjusted properly. They will accept many different types of holsters with extra mag pouch or not. The firearm is sitting basically between my knees and is accessible within no time. Fairly well hidden as well unless your really looking around in the vehicle.
Same here.
@@SemperDave0311 Semper Fi brother!!
I have a custom bar in the center console that is like a rigid belt for my whole holster to mount to. Gun stays in the appendix holster, in the center console with pretty quick access. Muscle memory has me placing it in and back to appendix when I get in and out. It's the best I came up with. Fortunately on the rare occasion I choose to leave it in the console, my truck locks the console with the truck.
Nice video! Smart ideas!
If you live in a van, would the back of the van serve as a trunk?
Thanks for another great video ... I enjoy watching what comes from your You Tube channel. I training and lots of repetitive training to get an individual's response time as low as possible is a HUGE factor. Another big factor is being able to keep a cool head and composure when you are under severe pressure.
Interesting video with expected results. Some other options for on body carry are a shoulder holster if you have a cove garment, cross draw belt carry if you have a big belly, and ankle carry for a small gun.
Great video. Might find somewhere like that too try making my own videos for my state. And thank you for your service boss💯🤎
Shoulder carry like Miami Vice. Draw with either hand.
Gonna have to speed test my custom overhead console with a hidden trap door that gravity drops an inverted firearm by my right ear on drawer slides with magnetic mount. Firearm deploys in a consistent predictable spot where my hand naturally goes (like holding a phone to your ear). It’s pretty fast when you get down the hidden button location, but precisely finding that button in a stress situation could be the slow part and I’m workshopping a quicker option. But I love that when it’s closed, nobody has been able to find the firearm, even when I tell them exactly where it is. So maybe take the good with the bad? Still think I can be sub 3 seconds if I duplicate your testing. Great video, time for some R&D.
Any left hand thoughts? I am left handed, but can fire righty as well.
From a seated position, shoulder holster or cross draw, IMHO would be best. But both only work for some people. If you have a big belly and or short arms, you can't hardly reach the gun. However, crossdraw on the strong side, which is same as the old reverse draw, could still work for especially left handers, since the seatbelt wouldn't be in the way as bad. I am left handed and carry in a strong side Milt Sparks holster for my Lightweight Commander, but also keep a Glock 22 under the armrest of my pickup. Either one is probably a 3 second draw to first shot for me. Not great, but hopefully with being alert, (code Yellow), I can see trouble coming, granted that's not always to be depended on.
Nice Audi. When can I drill with my 1989 mb190d and a new armalite pdw40?
I carry concealed on my side or cross chest bag made for weapon concealment when driving. If i need to enter a building where no weapons are allowed ( bank, courthouse, etc;), then i place my gun in a lock box that is cabled to the seats metal frame.
I found that a holster mounted to the side of the center console, between the center console and the seat, works extremely well for me. I mounted a kydex holster thats tilted forward somewhat is perfect for me. You can even mount a kydex reload next to it.
If im entering a situation where it looks like it could be sketchy, i can go ahead and get my grip on the pistol while driving with the other hand.
Great video thanks
Very good comparison demonstration. One question though. Since in California, are you allowed to preload the shotgun, as was shown in the demonstration? Certainly, it would have taken even more time if loading was needed. The point was still proven that trunk carry is very low on the list of carry alternatives, either way.
Extra holster for what you carry between sit and console is the fastest. When you exit just holster it. Cover it with hat when driving
This is what I do. If I have a garment or something around, sometimes I’ll just leave it on the front seat covered
I’d go a step further and not have an extra holster, but place the holstered gun between the seat and console and then place the holstered firearm in my waistband when exiting. You don’t want to be reholstering a loaded gun while seated.
I've done this drill actually driving with a sest belt. You have to stop, put it in park (or stay on the brake), draw with the seat belt on, fire, thrn make your next move. Much more complex
Since I typically carry in an OWB holster on my right side, I found this to be a problem with reaching it and getting tangled with the seat belt. So I installed a holster to my center console of the truck. Ir is about mid thigh and very easy to aquire.
Thanks for sharing
Keep it on you.
Maybe mount it in some molded foam. That way you can even have your hand on the gun when you mold it giving you exclusive access to your burner. Just a thought
What about us left-handed shooters?
I would imagine the door panel or a shoulder holster would be the best options.
If you're drawing from a sitting position the Army Calvary draw already solved this issue for you.
It's the fastest, most comfortable, way to wear a sidearm when sitting alot and need to draw while sitting.
Great video.
im in nc and have my cc permit. keep my 19 in a safariland holster under and behind passenger seat. got a feeling its way suboptimal… tks for the video and ideas!
I'm sure someone already said this but I would stress that you're more than likely wearing a seatbelt. So the appendix carry draw will add more time for the disengaging of the belt or even trying to manipulate it out of your way.
Need to add some automation that flips the back seat down and serves up the weapon so you don't have to get out of the car.
under arm holster, or under the seat is what id suggest
Can you do another version of this video for those of us who are left hand dominant? Carrying in my car is my least favorite because there is no good place to conceal it where I can easily access it.
Thank you. ✌️🙂
Thanks brother I have done some similar tests a ridge mount holster was that answer for me so it’s the same every time an in the dark you know exactly how an wear to grab great vid 👊
TY USCCA
You're welcome! Thanks for watching 🙂
I can’t help but think how insane have things become if we need to drive around with a gun. Crazy!!!
A friend of mine has his on one of those gun magnets mounted on the right side of the floorboard and beside his right leg, at about the 4 o'clock position & beside his right leg, and upside down as well, butt end/grips sticking up (towards him of course). Easily reachable, and dark tinted windows keeps it out of plain view
Great job! I'd be willing say that you could multiply each time that you registered times 2 or even times 3 for the average Joe You were bringing the smoke quick given the scenarios.
I always carry appendix unless you practice a lot which most don't self included I need fastest access possible and head on a swivel.
i didn't go through all the comments so i apologize if someone already mentioned it. If you are still rolling at all and braking, the seatbelt will engage and if the gun is in the glove box, you're screwed.
I just took out the guy sneaking around on the passenger side of your vehicle. You're welcome 😊
I assume a lot of people don't have an upper glove box area. Mine only has a lower glove box and grabbing a gun while seat belted in would be difficult.
Double that time when there us an actual threating situation. Also, in a hard stop, the seatbelt may lock up and cause you another delay.