Original Reddit Post- / hawaii_part_ii_iceberg Huge thanks to u/the_con_man1897 for posting this^ School of Remembering Thread- / has_anyone_else_looked...
There's alot of stuff that you didn't include that I wish you very much would've. such as - The Simon fan-theory - The first 4 songs connect to eachother - references to other songs in the album in SDISM - Ruler of Everything/Murders references in Variation on a Cloud - 9/11 references
The White Ball Solo Demo is basically a part of the story in Hawaii Part II. It takes place after the song "Time Machine". The protagonist, Simon, is singing to himself (because in the timeline, Time Machine is after Mind Electric) White Ball, which also explains the lines that were added, being "I love you", "Do you love me?" and "Oooh...". Also, Variations on a Cloud is part of Hawaii Part II, you just had to pre-order the album on the specific date of 9/11/2012. Variations on a Cloud is listed as number 0 on the album if you get it that day.
i always thought hawaii partii was pronounced "hawaii party" lol, its how i differentiated the two. but this video is the only thing i could really find talking about the deeper layers of this album (i've been trying to get to the bottom of all its secrets and it has been a JOURNEY) so tysm for making this!! edit: the first demo version of stranded lullaby, with the different lyrics, is like, rlly good and underrated lol
oh my god i cannot stop thinking about this comment. every single time i see the album now I read it as "hawaii partii" pronounced "hawaii party." thank you for cursing me
WAIT WAIT WAIT I JUST DID SOME MORE RESEARCH ON IT AND APPARENTLY ITS THE SECIND STEP IN MAKING A KOCH SNOWFLAKE (PART II) AND CAN BE ALMOST LIKE AN INTRODUCTION TO THE SNOWFLAKE (INTRODUCTION TO THE SNOW)
my interpretation of Variations on a Cloud is that it was supposed to be apart of Dream Sweet in Sea Major, but the full product turned out to be so long that they had to scrap it, but it was so good that they couldn't justify just throwing it away. if you play the two back to back, the transition between the end of DSiSM and the begining of VoaC is so utterly perfect that you can hardly tell where one ends and the other begins, not to mention the fact that DSiSM ends so abruptly without it. so why isn't Variations on a Cloud just the 12th song in Hawaii part ii? I think they would have put it there, but they didn't because it was another opportunity for more symbolism. VoaC being a single rather than in the album is a metaphor for Simon truly leaving hawaii for the great beyond. simply put, DSiSM is the resolution of simon's story arc, but we don't get to fully see it unless we leave hawaii with him. if we don't, we're just left on a monotone trailing line of eighth notes, and that non-ending is what gives us the hint that there is more. musically, it would have made far more sense to end DSiSM at the choral part that repeats the leitmotif from Introduction to the Snow. it gives a proper resolution to the song and poetically ends the album on the same beautiful heavenly melody from which it began. but from a story perspective, that would have communicated a resolution where there is more story to be told, so they instead cut off after the lyric's say bye to hawaii so there leaves something to be desired, something else to look for outside of Hawaii
It’s actually officially supposed to be a prologue to explain why the main guy is sailing to Hawaii, as he wanted to relax without having to think of 9/11. DSiSM is intentionally supposed to end abruptly, because that last part is supposed to represent the final brain wave before death, and the choral part is likely when his heart stops.
@@grayanddevpdx yeah, so after learning more about tally hall in general, I take a lot of this back, considering VoaC is, at the very least, a 9/11 homage, and officially would have been considered the 0th song in Hawaii part II rather than the 12th. Though at the same time, I don't think this has to be mutually exclusive with the idea that VoaC, at least inadvertently, represents Simon passing on and remembering back on his journey while in heaven, or whichever spiritual realm we want, it doesn't really matter. Because it contains a lot of melodies from other hawaii part II songs, I think it serves better as an epilogue to the album than it does a prologue, and the fact that it matches up so well with DSiSM can still have meaning even if it is just a coincidence. But yeah, I definitely take back a lot of the conjecture I made in the original post now that I know more
8:44 it might have something to do with this, but every day when I wake up to go to school my parents are still asleep and my brother has already left the house, so I listen to music on my headphones while I'm preparing everything. But today, while I was making the breakfast and listening to Dream Sweet In Sea Major, I heard some voices as if someone was calling me (very vaguely) I looked around me, didn't see anyone, and got kinda scared but I thought that maybe the sounds were the footsteps of my parents going to the bathroom on the upper floor or something so I kinda ignored it and just moved on. Now I'm saying there might be some kind of connection here since I don't have schizophrenia (at least not that I know of) but it's still kinda weird that it only happened this morning because during the day I listened to the song multiple times and didn't notice anything similar. Idk it might just be what I said about my parents going to the bathroom, but it's still kinda interesting.
Woah I was just curious about the album after listening to it for a month or so, and I was wondering if there was anything else to know, and lo and behold, a video made a week ago pops up :0 this was informative, thanks :)
dude thank you so much for making this, i searched so hard for the schizophrenia thing and found NOTHING and same with the school of remembering. i was so deeply unsatisfied... and then the algorithm gave me an answer c:
mmm yes, one of my favorite albums which might have some creepy themes which stopped bothering me at some point is now apparently possibly linked to a cult, I guess I'm not sleeping today either way
Oh my goodness… no one has ever called me a content creator. I’m honored:D And I 100% think more people should make videos on this. It’s such an awesome album that goes unseen.
The Stella octangula certainly isn't just a brand symbol, although I haven't discovered the intended meaning just yet. I don't believe they would put anything in this album if it had no meaning. I do have a lead though, the person credited with naming the shape is named Johannes Kepler, who was a geometer and musician. He wrote Harmonices Mundi, which is a work about the relationship between harmony and physical matter, I bet there's an answer somewhere in there. He also wrote about the music of the spheres, basically the idea that since the planets are orbiting they are emitting a sound of some kind which we aren't able to hear. Interesting stuff
White Ball solo demo just sounds like a person with a sore throat trying to sing with a person trying to play a instrument but the person has never touched a instrument
Hey, i have a theory. What is the “sirens” in dream sweet ins sea major are actually, well ambulance sirens? It would totally make sense, given the 9/11 connotations and how they “promise endless apologies of paradise”, given what hospitals do. This would change completely the accepted meanings of the songs too because now these sirens are not literal
fun fact: the guy who made the stella octangula said that whoever solves it will learn the secrets of the universe,, or something along those lines lol. theres just some deep meaning behind the shape
Good video, but if i may insert some criticism: could be better with the sound mixing, some parts go really loud with the music ;-;. Also some topics could be elaborated on more, like what mind electric is actually about, or how dream in sea major is actually in the key Cmaj? More less known facts abt the stuff lol
When I listened to Sweet Dreams In The Sea Major, I kid you not, it changed my entire thinking, I seriously think I wanna live stranded in the middle of a snowy forest, I don’t even know why.
When I listened to Sweet Dreams In The Sea Major, I kid you not, it changed my entire thinking, I seriously think I wanna live stranded in the middle of a snowy forest, I don’t even know why.
thank you for showing us a part of the white ball solo demo. If you didn't, I would have googled it anyway and not be able to sleep today, that's creepier than the mind electric, holy shit
Honestly I can't listen to the entirety of Sweet Dream in Sea Major, I always end up skipping. The amount of chaos it devolves into is so musically disorientating I can't handle finishing it. The only time I ever got all the way through was while I was asleep and remember none of it
If you haven’t listened to Hawaii: Part II before and you’re watching this, please go listen before you actually watch this, the album is an *ELECTRIFYING* experience
I was just thinking someone should make a hawaii part ii iceberg explained and this pops up in my recommended. Thank you for putting this onto the internet.
Thanks so much for this video there's not alot of information I can find to learn more about this amazing album also I was seeing some type of ARG thing saying something about Zam 440 maybe you could make a video about that
Mmmmmm yummy content 💕 Definitely was needing this. Just found this album and want to obsess over it because I am VERY selective when it comes to giving a full album my attention, but my friends don't care about it 💔😭
The Mind Electric is a great song…BUT- I think they could’ve not done the reverse thing at the beginning. I get that it is to show just how absolutely unstable Simon is at this point but…they do that very well with the song in forwards so…yeah. I don’t think they needed to have the backwards shit. That’s my opinion :)
You could always tidy your hair a bit (I sound like my mom lol) but I don’t think you’re at all ugly! Thanks for the analysis, this is such an interesting album to delve into.
It is said that one who understands the stella octangula understands the secrets to the universe or smth like that, its also mentuoned in the back of one of the songs
are you sure you can't find the labyrinth game online? cuz i found it and played it like a year ago or so when i found hawaii part II. it wasn't a browser game tho, i had to download it
As a fan of Hawaii part II for a long time, I feel that much more information was missing and I feel that many points were repeated. I'm tempted to make my own iceberg from this album because apart from that I feel that not many know the secrets that make it up and it would be interesting XD And good video!! I had fun watching it!!
I believe that the Hawaii part ii is a album detailing the story of a man who was cursed with immortality which is a curse bestowed upon him with the added factor of the passing time degrading his mind and the alter ego of himself infecting his mind and causing the death of his lover. The following paragraphs will detail how this interpretation is a suitable story for the album. The first song “Introduction to the snow” shows him reminiscing on his past life as he floats on the precipice of all eternity when everything fades away as he gazes upon the stars and his mind detailing how beautiful and bitter it is. The second song “Isle Unto Thyself” starts us off with an ethereal sounding chant that might have been the goddess he and his lover worshiped or himself reminiscing on the past. Then it cuts to the man detailing how he met the love of his life and like the quote “why would it matter” doubting why and how it all started or maybe him being hesitant of love and how it may hurt him. The song I believe details his love and journey with her and him questioning if the memory was real then the song lyrics details on how when he was on the brink off death “Bled on the ground” he met the god and he was given the immortality he wanted and his alter ego too unbeknownst to them it would be a curse. Next it describes how the universe passed through and how he describes it and how it all died and him questioning his humanity as he ponders life. The song “Black Rainbows” is sung by the woman and is set in what I believe is Hawaii where the 2 lovers met and how they came upon Stella Octangula which basically defines a god(search it up and the theory of its meaning) the song follows how they saw the light that it shown and the possibilities and how beautiful their love and “it” was. (Btw the songs if you listen in order mix like a musical flowing together perfectly ) The next song white ball details a tango both physically and metaphorically kinda where they danced and detail about the future of the stars and eternity and their love together but later on it’s only him who lives forever. This song “Murders'' is a song shows the ego shows how it depicted of the love and how it pessimistically saw it and how he was in the middle and how all it wanted was the fountain of infinite mirrors which basically means immortality and how the ego took control and killed the love of his life and how at the end he gains control and spirals down into his depths of tragedy. The next song is the Japanese song which is translated to space station level 7 which basically details how humans evolved into going into space what it looks like but level 7 is a gate a final gate to heaven which the song constantly chants which leads me to believe that the man lives and is looking for heaven where his lover is and constantly looking for death. The song “Mind Electric” depicts how he was caught for killing his lover and how he is in court pleading to the court of his alter ego which they sentence him to death and how he depicts his degrading mind. And with his sentence he is sentenced to electric chair and how he depicts the electric corses through his brain and how his alter ego is becoming more present in his mind commenting on how the surfs work the ground and he plays with his mind and how it or him prays for it to end the torture and suffering. Next song is Labyrinth which describes how his mind is spinning and how he’s trying to get out and how now he feels like his past lover is following and has already gone to level 7 aka heaven. The rapper is the man and his mind as he acknowledges how he is running from the people trying to kill him and how he is in fear of his alter ego/god may cause the death of more and how he is trapped in this cycle. The song “Time Machine” is showing how he is now in the future waiting for the release of life and how he regrets what the ego has done, possibly conquered the ego or fused together because the other thoughts did not appear in the song. It follows his desire to go back with a Time Machine which he is awaiting to appear so he can go back and prevent all of it. The song “Stranded Lullaby” is detailing on him being stranded out in space and time and I believe he finally conquered his ego but became numb to the idea of basically everything with the only remaining shard of him being his lover and he is “lost at sea” or he has finally came to terms with his alter ego and he questions why it did what it did and why it was so lonely. The final song is “Dream Sweet in Sea Major” the final song based on my interpretation is where he finally conquered the ego and becomes and the god finally brings him the the promised land when he floated through space and finally reached level 7 where he finally is reunited with his lover as he savor the moment and the moment forever where the verses describe them going back into Hawaii and where they relive their love and what is to come as they love within heaven which he reached and the final verse he says good bye to Hawaii which is a representation of the ego torture and what he felt to finally get their as he grows and anew and will spend forever in eternity with his love. This is what I believe the album means in most sense. I believe the conclusion I detailed is what actually finally happened in that marvelous story which was detailed in the album Hawaii part ii.
New and improved interpretation of Hawaii part ii + ruler of everything and variations on the clouds. Before we start this is the backstory on how I found these, found the ruler of everything first then mind electric second but in a closet time period to it. I saw an explanation by the ruler of everything which explained the basic frame of the entire story like 2 years from the current writing of this explanation. This is what the songwriter got its inspiration from with the story and using some of his unused unfinished songs and incorporated them into the album. If you think of the ruler of everything as a demo, inspiration, and enactment of the man’s feelings throughout all of it (explanation of ruler of everything will be at the end). I found how the song and the albums themes and mood were overall similar then I dug deeper for the explanation for Hawaii which I think are false, which led me even deeper to my explanation here so please read and if you have any discrepancies please tell. I believe that the Hawaii part ii is a album detailing the story of a man who was cursed with immortality which is a curse bestowed upon him with the added factor of the passing time degrading his mind and the alter ego of himself infecting his mind and causing the death of his lover. The following paragraphs will detail how this interpretation is a suitable story for the album. The first song “Introduction to the snow” shows him reminiscing on his past life as he floats on the precipice of all eternity when everything fades away as he gazes upon the stars and his mind detailing how beautiful and bitter it is. The second song “Isle Unto Thyself” starts us off with an ethereal sounding chant that might have been the goddess he and his lover worshiped or himself reminiscing on the past. Then it cuts to the man detailing how he met the love of his life and like the quote “why would it matter” doubting why and how it all started or maybe him being hesitant of love and how it may hurt him. The song I believe details his love and journey with her and him questioning if the memory was real then the song lyrics details on how when he was on the brink off death “Bled on the ground” he met the god and he was given the immortality he wanted and his alter ego too unbeknownst to them it would be a curse. Next it describes how the universe passed through and how he describes it and how it all died and him questioning his humanity as he ponders life. The song “Black Rainbows” is sung by the woman and is set in what I believe is Hawaii where the 2 lovers met and how they came upon Stella Octangula which basically defines a god(search it up and the theory of its meaning) the song follows how they saw the light that it shown and the possibilities and how beautiful their love and “it” was. (Btw the songs if you listen in order mix like a musical flowing together perfectly ) The next song white ball details a tango both physically and metaphorically kinda where they danced and detail about the future of the stars and eternity and their love together but later on it’s only him who lives forever. This song “Murders'' is a song shows the ego shows how it depicted of the love and how it pessimistically saw it and how he was in the middle and how all it wanted was the fountain of infinite mirrors which basically means immortality and how the ego took control and killed the love of his life and how at the end he gains control and spirals down into his depths of tragedy. The next song is the Japanese song which is translated to space station level 7 which basically details how humans evolved into going into space what it looks like but level 7 is a gate a final gate to heaven which the song constantly chants which leads me to believe that the man lives and is looking for heaven where his lover is and constantly looking for death. The song “Mind Electric” depicts how he was caught for killing his lover and how he is in court pleading to the court of his alter ego which they sentence him to death and how he depicts his degrading mind. And with his sentence he is sentenced to electric chair and how he depicts the electric corses through his brain and how his alter ego is becoming more present in his mind commenting on how the surfs work the ground and he plays with his mind and how it or him prays for it to end the torture and suffering. Next song is Labyrinth which describes how his mind is spinning and how he’s trying to get out and how now he feels like his past lover is following and has already gone to level 7 aka heaven. The rapper is the man and his mind as he acknowledges how he is running from the people trying to kill him and how he is in fear of his alter ego/god may cause the death of more and how he is trapped in this cycle. The song “Time Machine” is showing how he is now in the future waiting for the release of life and how he regrets what the ego has done, possibly conquered the ego or fused together because the other thoughts did not appear in the song. It follows his desire to go back with a Time Machine which he is awaiting to appear so he can go back and prevent all of it. The song “Stranded Lullaby” is detailing on him being stranded out in space and time and I believe he finally conquered his ego but became numb to the idea of basically everything with the only remaining shard of him being his lover and he is “lost at sea” or he has finally came to terms with his alter ego and he questions why it did what it did and why it was so lonely. The final song is “Dream Sweet in Sea Major” the final song based on my interpretation is where he finally conquered the ego and becomes and the god finally brings him the the promised land when he floated through space and finally reached level 7 where he finally is reunited with his lover as he savor the moment and the moment forever where the verses describe them going back into Hawaii and where they relive their love and what is to come as they love within heaven which he reached and the final verse he says good bye to Hawaii which is a representation of the ego torture and what he felt to finally get their as he grows and anew and will spend forever in eternity with his love. This is what I believe the album means in most sense. I believe the conclusion I detailed is what actually finally happened in that marvelous story which was detailed in the album Hawaii part ii. Now unto ruler of everything, before explaining remember that ruler of everything was way before and the ground for Hawaii part ii. The song starts out with “Juno was mad he knew he’d been had so he shot at the sun with a gun…” (please read lyrics to understand what i'm saying) implying that Juno/Man was mad because he got tricked into living forever causing for him to lose his loved ones, have the devil/ruler of time/ ruler of everything in the end being in his consciousness(like the alter ego) with its commentary and low tone. The song mentions the sun and how life expanded out of it and around it into the galaxy and the sun literally a god was there with Juno and how the sun knew of the deal he made and could have stopped him. “Every end of a time is another begun” is how Juno saw the passing of time, “you understand mechanical hands are the ruler of everything” mechanical hands being the hands on a clock and how time rules everything, and “do you like how I dance ect ect of the verse” basically states how Juno saw how man was obsessive over how they look talked walked and the view of other for their approvment and how they don’t care that they may “die soon” or disintegrate into chalk. The rest is fodder basically meaning he just bumbled around without meaning and how the time deity criticizes but emphasizes with him. Variations on a cloud first thing straight is not connected to Hawaii part ii or ruler of everything. Blatant reference to their song and overall theme but not connected. Also this supports why I think the ruler of everything is to be taken into consideration when talking about Hawaii part ii. Song starts out with 2 singers both the same person optimistic high tuned awaiting and departing for the future and seeing the beauty of it and the one who doesn’t want to leave the world and what they made and how it’s disappearing in a basic sense. The context is how basically 9/11 yada yada but in 9/11 people were getting burned to death and were stuck onto so people saw as these people were jumping off holding hands to their death which is what the singer is detailing their thoughts and life as it flashes before their eyes “a little bit of magic to end the world”. You can relate the lyrics to this no need to elaborate it shows how he tells of his mother and friends and how they were to him, what he built up how it’s crashing down, and how he/optimistic one accepts it how the memories keep on coming back and coming back as he falls to his death but happy and accept for what is to be for the life he lived and what may lay ahead. Very good song too. I believe this song was also a passion project to the viewers who understand it like a wrap up and gift for a final departure. And so too with these songs for it wraps up the explanation of this song and the rest of all of this.
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thank for using my iceberg :)
Murders is missing
@@mushroomfog2509 it got killed and couldnt make it
@@typerakalamies6237 this made laugh sm wtf
There's alot of stuff that you didn't include that I wish you very much would've.
such as
- The Simon fan-theory
- The first 4 songs connect to eachother
- references to other songs in the album in SDISM
- Ruler of Everything/Murders references in Variation on a Cloud
- 9/11 references
@@Deedoo_r the whole album is connected, not just the first four songs.
“(DO NOT RESEARCH)” is basically an inside joke that Iceberg creators use, similarly to “Every copy of x is personalised.”
The White Ball Solo Demo is basically a part of the story in Hawaii Part II. It takes place after the song "Time Machine". The protagonist, Simon, is singing to himself (because in the timeline, Time Machine is after Mind Electric) White Ball, which also explains the lines that were added, being "I love you", "Do you love me?" and "Oooh...". Also, Variations on a Cloud is part of Hawaii Part II, you just had to pre-order the album on the specific date of 9/11/2012. Variations on a Cloud is listed as number 0 on the album if you get it that day.
The demo I thought was so sad 😞
The demo is weird asf 💀
But How Does The Song Into 9/11 Tie Into The Story About Being Framed For Murdering Your Wife/Girlfriend? 😭
i always thought hawaii partii was pronounced "hawaii party" lol, its how i differentiated the two. but this video is the only thing i could really find talking about the deeper layers of this album (i've been trying to get to the bottom of all its secrets and it has been a JOURNEY) so tysm for making this!!
edit: the first demo version of stranded lullaby, with the different lyrics, is like, rlly good and underrated lol
oh my god i cannot stop thinking about this comment. every single time i see the album now I read it as "hawaii partii" pronounced "hawaii party." thank you for cursing me
This is how I pronounce it too
Same I pronounce it like that too and I will continue to do so 😈
No way, I pronounced it hawaii party too--
Oh sweet there's an iceberg. Pog.
Also fun fact the end of DSISM kinda transitions into VOAC
Joe hawley is the guy who wrote ruler of everything, thats why Variations on a Cloud has the same leitmotif in the end
Kel is staring into my soul as I watch this
Also if we are being honest, miracle musical’s songs hit harder than when Mari hit the floo-
Underrated comment
The Stella octangula is mentioned in the backing vocals of black rainbows but other than that I think it’s just a cool shape they used
WAIT WAIT WAIT I JUST DID SOME MORE RESEARCH ON IT AND APPARENTLY ITS THE SECIND STEP IN MAKING A KOCH SNOWFLAKE (PART II) AND CAN BE ALMOST LIKE AN INTRODUCTION TO THE SNOWFLAKE (INTRODUCTION TO THE SNOW)
@@asteroiddust8057this is such a cute theory
my interpretation of Variations on a Cloud is that it was supposed to be apart of Dream Sweet in Sea Major, but the full product turned out to be so long that they had to scrap it, but it was so good that they couldn't justify just throwing it away.
if you play the two back to back, the transition between the end of DSiSM and the begining of VoaC is so utterly perfect that you can hardly tell where one ends and the other begins, not to mention the fact that DSiSM ends so abruptly without it. so why isn't Variations on a Cloud just the 12th song in Hawaii part ii? I think they would have put it there, but they didn't because it was another opportunity for more symbolism.
VoaC being a single rather than in the album is a metaphor for Simon truly leaving hawaii for the great beyond. simply put, DSiSM is the resolution of simon's story arc, but we don't get to fully see it unless we leave hawaii with him. if we don't, we're just left on a monotone trailing line of eighth notes, and that non-ending is what gives us the hint that there is more.
musically, it would have made far more sense to end DSiSM at the choral part that repeats the leitmotif from Introduction to the Snow. it gives a proper resolution to the song and poetically ends the album on the same beautiful heavenly melody from which it began. but from a story perspective, that would have communicated a resolution where there is more story to be told, so they instead cut off after the lyric's say bye to hawaii so there leaves something to be desired, something else to look for outside of Hawaii
It’s actually officially supposed to be a prologue to explain why the main guy is sailing to Hawaii, as he wanted to relax without having to think of 9/11. DSiSM is intentionally supposed to end abruptly, because that last part is supposed to represent the final brain wave before death, and the choral part is likely when his heart stops.
@@grayanddevpdx yeah, so after learning more about tally hall in general, I take a lot of this back, considering VoaC is, at the very least, a 9/11 homage, and officially would have been considered the 0th song in Hawaii part II rather than the 12th. Though at the same time, I don't think this has to be mutually exclusive with the idea that VoaC, at least inadvertently, represents Simon passing on and remembering back on his journey while in heaven, or whichever spiritual realm we want, it doesn't really matter. Because it contains a lot of melodies from other hawaii part II songs, I think it serves better as an epilogue to the album than it does a prologue, and the fact that it matches up so well with DSiSM can still have meaning even if it is just a coincidence. But yeah, I definitely take back a lot of the conjecture I made in the original post now that I know more
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the white ball solo demo freaks me the fuck out, although the glitch in her voice reminds me a lot of rosemary walten from the walten files
8:44 it might have something to do with this, but every day when I wake up to go to school my parents are still asleep and my brother has already left the house, so I listen to music on my headphones while I'm preparing everything. But today, while I was making the breakfast and listening to Dream Sweet In Sea Major, I heard some voices as if someone was calling me (very vaguely) I looked around me, didn't see anyone, and got kinda scared but I thought that maybe the sounds were the footsteps of my parents going to the bathroom on the upper floor or something so I kinda ignored it and just moved on. Now I'm saying there might be some kind of connection here since I don't have schizophrenia (at least not that I know of) but it's still kinda weird that it only happened this morning because during the day I listened to the song multiple times and didn't notice anything similar. Idk it might just be what I said about my parents going to the bathroom, but it's still kinda interesting.
Woah I was just curious about the album after listening to it for a month or so, and I was wondering if there was anything else to know, and lo and behold, a video made a week ago pops up :0 this was informative, thanks :)
Also the white ball solo demo sounds like its sung by the NUMBER ONE VICTORY ROYALE kid
dude thank you so much for making this, i searched so hard for the schizophrenia thing and found NOTHING and same with the school of remembering. i was so deeply unsatisfied... and then the algorithm gave me an answer c:
hello popular youtuber, i am straight cis man and i think youre cute
mmm yes, one of my favorite albums which might have some creepy themes which stopped bothering me at some point is now apparently possibly linked to a cult, I guess I'm not sleeping today either way
Bro is lowkey gorgeous, beautiful even but call themselves ugly
Happy to see more content creators picking up this album
Oh my goodness… no one has ever called me a content creator. I’m honored:D
And I 100% think more people should make videos on this. It’s such an awesome album that goes unseen.
@@coppersundew Hey friend, anybody that takes time and effort to make videos is a content creator!
Dont give up on it, it's worth the effort!
Yes! Its such a great album!
I already knew about most of this lmao all signs considered I might be developing an obsession lmao-
didn’t mention how this album has a deep and tragic story to it.
watched the video specifically to hear about it and didn’t unfortunately :/
damn the link for the school of remembering is dead
They also say stella octangula in the lyrics of black rainbows!
The Stella octangula certainly isn't just a brand symbol, although I haven't discovered the intended meaning just yet. I don't believe they would put anything in this album if it had no meaning. I do have a lead though, the person credited with naming the shape is named Johannes Kepler, who was a geometer and musician. He wrote Harmonices Mundi, which is a work about the relationship between harmony and physical matter, I bet there's an answer somewhere in there. He also wrote about the music of the spheres, basically the idea that since the planets are orbiting they are emitting a sound of some kind which we aren't able to hear. Interesting stuff
White Ball solo demo just sounds like a person with a sore throat trying to sing with a person trying to play a instrument but the person has never touched a instrument
Hey, i have a theory. What is the “sirens” in dream sweet ins sea major are actually, well ambulance sirens? It would totally make sense, given the 9/11 connotations and how they “promise endless apologies of paradise”, given what hospitals do. This would change completely the accepted meanings of the songs too because now these sirens are not literal
fun fact: the guy who made the stella octangula said that whoever solves it will learn the secrets of the universe,, or something along those lines lol. theres just some deep meaning behind the shape
Pretty good video, and i'm always happy to see more content on this magnificent album.
Good video, but if i may insert some criticism: could be better with the sound mixing, some parts go really loud with the music ;-;. Also some topics could be elaborated on more, like what mind electric is actually about, or how dream in sea major is actually in the key Cmaj? More less known facts abt the stuff lol
When I listened to Sweet Dreams In The Sea Major, I kid you not, it changed my entire thinking, I seriously think I wanna live stranded in the middle of a snowy forest, I don’t even know why.
When I listened to Sweet Dreams In The Sea Major, I kid you not, it changed my entire thinking, I seriously think I wanna live stranded in the middle of a snowy forest, I don’t even know why.
thank you for showing us a part of the white ball solo demo. If you didn't, I would have googled it anyway and not be able to sleep today, that's creepier than the mind electric, holy shit
Tbh it's just hilarious
Hahahahahaaaass goddamn this album had scrambled my mind so much
Honestly I can't listen to the entirety of Sweet Dream in Sea Major, I always end up skipping. The amount of chaos it devolves into is so musically disorientating I can't handle finishing it. The only time I ever got all the way through was while I was asleep and remember none of it
Ross said Hawaii Partii is pronounced Hawaii Party
ive watched this video thrice and i fear i may be going insane
WHAT IS IT WITH TEENAGERS THESE DAYS AND MAKING GOOD CONTENT BACK IM MY DAY PEOPLE MADE HAPPY WHEELS VIDEOS EVERY SINGLE DAY AND WE WERE HAPPY
Omori reference
If you haven’t listened to Hawaii: Part II before and you’re watching this, please go listen before you actually watch this, the album is an *ELECTRIFYING* experience
This video is amazing
I was just thinking someone should make a hawaii part ii iceberg explained and this pops up in my recommended. Thank you for putting this onto the internet.
Thanks so much for this video there's not alot of information I can find to learn more about this amazing album also I was seeing some type of ARG thing saying something about Zam 440 maybe you could make a video about that
(White Ball Demo) That ain't Stella The Six Pointed Star, that's Stephanie The 2d 2nd Grader-Drawn-in-Crayon Star
kel pfp :D
White ball demo sounds like something from the mind electric
Mmmmmm yummy content 💕
Definitely was needing this. Just found this album and want to obsess over it because I am VERY selective when it comes to giving a full album my attention, but my friends don't care about it 💔😭
ah yes, inspect element, the oldest trick in the book
This should’ve been part two of the iceberg just to screw with people
2:40 more like 9 out of 11
THATS WILD
Imma do a pmv with White Ball Demo now
you have to find it but you can still download the labyrinth game
you look like young pewdiepie
Ur really cute lol I love ur glasses
me from pc while i download the game :)
THE WHITE BALL DEMO SCARED TF OUT OF ME😭
i think thits is a miracle musical reference
I love hawaii part ii and can't stop consuming information about it
The Mind Electric is a great song…BUT-
I think they could’ve not done the reverse thing at the beginning. I get that it is to show just how absolutely unstable Simon is at this point but…they do that very well with the song in forwards so…yeah. I don’t think they needed to have the backwards shit. That’s my opinion :)
Stranded lullaby demo noises are haunting af
You could always tidy your hair a bit (I sound like my mom lol) but I don’t think you’re at all ugly! Thanks for the analysis, this is such an interesting album to delve into.
Thanks a lot for explaining! It's insane how this got less than 300 views.
i went from Everywhere at The end of Time too Hawaii Part II
Should I make an everywhere at the end of time video?🤔
I am worrried for your mental health
You are my new favourite TH-camr
ok that was cute
I’m blushing🥺
labarinth is also a bop
It is said that one who understands the stella octangula understands the secrets to the universe or smth like that, its also mentuoned in the back of one of the songs
are you sure you can't find the labyrinth game online? cuz i found it and played it like a year ago or so when i found hawaii part II. it wasn't a browser game tho, i had to download it
The Schooner was here.
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≠ D
Is this real
What of reality anyway?
As a fan of Hawaii part II for a long time, I feel that much more information was missing and I feel that many points were repeated.
I'm tempted to make my own iceberg from this album because apart from that I feel that not many know the secrets that make it up and it would be interesting XD
And good video!! I had fun watching it!!
Finally
damn good video
Nice video!
Nice vidéo, probably could do better with the commentary though
I believe that the Hawaii part ii is a album detailing the story of a man who was cursed with immortality which is a curse bestowed upon him with the added factor of the passing time degrading his mind and the alter ego of himself infecting his mind and causing the death of his lover. The following paragraphs will detail how this interpretation is a suitable story for the album. The first song “Introduction to the snow” shows him reminiscing on his past life as he floats on the precipice of all eternity when everything fades away as he gazes upon the stars and his mind detailing how beautiful and bitter it is. The second song “Isle Unto Thyself” starts us off with an ethereal sounding chant that might have been the goddess he and his lover worshiped or himself reminiscing on the past. Then it cuts to the man detailing how he met the love of his life and like the quote “why would it matter” doubting why and how it all started or maybe him being hesitant of love and how it may hurt him. The song I believe details his love and journey with her and him questioning if the memory was real then the song lyrics details on how when he was on the brink off death “Bled on the ground” he met the god and he was given the immortality he wanted and his alter ego too unbeknownst to them it would be a curse. Next it describes how the universe passed through and how he describes it and how it all died and him questioning his humanity as he ponders life. The song “Black Rainbows” is sung by the woman and is set in what I believe is Hawaii where the 2 lovers met and how they came upon Stella Octangula which basically defines a god(search it up and the theory of its meaning) the song follows how they saw the light that it shown and the possibilities and how beautiful their love and “it” was. (Btw the songs if you listen in order mix like a musical flowing together perfectly ) The next song white ball details a tango both physically and metaphorically kinda where they danced and detail about the future of the stars and eternity and their love together but later on it’s only him who lives forever. This song “Murders'' is a song shows the ego shows how it depicted of the love and how it pessimistically saw it and how he was in the middle and how all it wanted was the fountain of infinite mirrors which basically means immortality and how the ego took control and killed the love of his life and how at the end he gains control and spirals down into his depths of tragedy. The next song is the Japanese song which is translated to space station level 7 which basically details how humans evolved into going into space what it looks like but level 7 is a gate a final gate to heaven which the song constantly chants which leads me to believe that the man lives and is looking for heaven where his lover is and constantly looking for death. The song “Mind Electric” depicts how he was caught for killing his lover and how he is in court pleading to the court of his alter ego which they sentence him to death and how he depicts his degrading mind. And with his sentence he is sentenced to electric chair and how he depicts the electric corses through his brain and how his alter ego is becoming more present in his mind commenting on how the surfs work the ground and he plays with his mind and how it or him prays for it to end the torture and suffering. Next song is Labyrinth which describes how his mind is spinning and how he’s trying to get out and how now he feels like his past lover is following and has already gone to level 7 aka heaven. The rapper is the man and his mind as he acknowledges how he is running from the people trying to kill him and how he is in fear of his alter ego/god may cause the death of more and how he is trapped in this cycle. The song “Time Machine” is showing how he is now in the future waiting for the release of life and how he regrets what the ego has done, possibly conquered the ego or fused together because the other thoughts did not appear in the song. It follows his desire to go back with a Time Machine which he is awaiting to appear so he can go back and prevent all of it. The song “Stranded Lullaby” is detailing on him being stranded out in space and time and I believe he finally conquered his ego but became numb to the idea of basically everything with the only remaining shard of him being his lover and he is “lost at sea” or he has finally came to terms with his alter ego and he questions why it did what it did and why it was so lonely. The final song is “Dream Sweet in Sea Major” the final song based on my interpretation is where he finally conquered the ego and becomes and the god finally brings him the the promised land when he floated through space and finally reached level 7 where he finally is reunited with his lover as he savor the moment and the moment forever where the verses describe them going back into Hawaii and where they relive their love and what is to come as they love within heaven which he reached and the final verse he says good bye to Hawaii which is a representation of the ego torture and what he felt to finally get their as he grows and anew and will spend forever in eternity with his love. This is what I believe the album means in most sense. I believe the conclusion I detailed is what actually finally happened in that marvelous story which was detailed in the album Hawaii part ii.
New and improved interpretation of Hawaii part ii + ruler of everything and variations on the clouds.
Before we start this is the backstory on how I found these, found the ruler of everything first then mind electric second but in a closet time period to it. I saw an explanation by the ruler of everything which explained the basic frame of the entire story like 2 years from the current writing of this explanation. This is what the songwriter got its inspiration from with the story and using some of his unused unfinished songs and incorporated them into the album. If you think of the ruler of everything as a demo, inspiration, and enactment of the man’s feelings throughout all of it (explanation of ruler of everything will be at the end). I found how the song and the albums themes and mood were overall similar then I dug deeper for the explanation for Hawaii which I think are false, which led me even deeper to my explanation here so please read and if you have any discrepancies please tell.
I believe that the Hawaii part ii is a album detailing the story of a man who was cursed with immortality which is a curse bestowed upon him with the added factor of the passing time degrading his mind and the alter ego of himself infecting his mind and causing the death of his lover. The following paragraphs will detail how this interpretation is a suitable story for the album. The first song “Introduction to the snow” shows him reminiscing on his past life as he floats on the precipice of all eternity when everything fades away as he gazes upon the stars and his mind detailing how beautiful and bitter it is. The second song “Isle Unto Thyself” starts us off with an ethereal sounding chant that might have been the goddess he and his lover worshiped or himself reminiscing on the past. Then it cuts to the man detailing how he met the love of his life and like the quote “why would it matter” doubting why and how it all started or maybe him being hesitant of love and how it may hurt him. The song I believe details his love and journey with her and him questioning if the memory was real then the song lyrics details on how when he was on the brink off death “Bled on the ground” he met the god and he was given the immortality he wanted and his alter ego too unbeknownst to them it would be a curse. Next it describes how the universe passed through and how he describes it and how it all died and him questioning his humanity as he ponders life. The song “Black Rainbows” is sung by the woman and is set in what I believe is Hawaii where the 2 lovers met and how they came upon Stella Octangula which basically defines a god(search it up and the theory of its meaning) the song follows how they saw the light that it shown and the possibilities and how beautiful their love and “it” was. (Btw the songs if you listen in order mix like a musical flowing together perfectly ) The next song white ball details a tango both physically and metaphorically kinda where they danced and detail about the future of the stars and eternity and their love together but later on it’s only him who lives forever. This song “Murders'' is a song shows the ego shows how it depicted of the love and how it pessimistically saw it and how he was in the middle and how all it wanted was the fountain of infinite mirrors which basically means immortality and how the ego took control and killed the love of his life and how at the end he gains control and spirals down into his depths of tragedy. The next song is the Japanese song which is translated to space station level 7 which basically details how humans evolved into going into space what it looks like but level 7 is a gate a final gate to heaven which the song constantly chants which leads me to believe that the man lives and is looking for heaven where his lover is and constantly looking for death. The song “Mind Electric” depicts how he was caught for killing his lover and how he is in court pleading to the court of his alter ego which they sentence him to death and how he depicts his degrading mind. And with his sentence he is sentenced to electric chair and how he depicts the electric corses through his brain and how his alter ego is becoming more present in his mind commenting on how the surfs work the ground and he plays with his mind and how it or him prays for it to end the torture and suffering. Next song is Labyrinth which describes how his mind is spinning and how he’s trying to get out and how now he feels like his past lover is following and has already gone to level 7 aka heaven. The rapper is the man and his mind as he acknowledges how he is running from the people trying to kill him and how he is in fear of his alter ego/god may cause the death of more and how he is trapped in this cycle. The song “Time Machine” is showing how he is now in the future waiting for the release of life and how he regrets what the ego has done, possibly conquered the ego or fused together because the other thoughts did not appear in the song. It follows his desire to go back with a Time Machine which he is awaiting to appear so he can go back and prevent all of it. The song “Stranded Lullaby” is detailing on him being stranded out in space and time and I believe he finally conquered his ego but became numb to the idea of basically everything with the only remaining shard of him being his lover and he is “lost at sea” or he has finally came to terms with his alter ego and he questions why it did what it did and why it was so lonely. The final song is “Dream Sweet in Sea Major” the final song based on my interpretation is where he finally conquered the ego and becomes and the god finally brings him the the promised land when he floated through space and finally reached level 7 where he finally is reunited with his lover as he savor the moment and the moment forever where the verses describe them going back into Hawaii and where they relive their love and what is to come as they love within heaven which he reached and the final verse he says good bye to Hawaii which is a representation of the ego torture and what he felt to finally get their as he grows and anew and will spend forever in eternity with his love. This is what I believe the album means in most sense. I believe the conclusion I detailed is what actually finally happened in that marvelous story which was detailed in the album Hawaii part ii.
Now unto ruler of everything, before explaining remember that ruler of everything was way before and the ground for Hawaii part ii. The song starts out with “Juno was mad he knew he’d been had so he shot at the sun with a gun…” (please read lyrics to understand what i'm saying) implying that Juno/Man was mad because he got tricked into living forever causing for him to lose his loved ones, have the devil/ruler of time/ ruler of everything in the end being in his consciousness(like the alter ego) with its commentary and low tone. The song mentions the sun and how life expanded out of it and around it into the galaxy and the sun literally a god was there with Juno and how the sun knew of the deal he made and could have stopped him. “Every end of a time is another begun” is how Juno saw the passing of time, “you understand mechanical hands are the ruler of everything” mechanical hands being the hands on a clock and how time rules everything, and “do you like how I dance ect ect of the verse” basically states how Juno saw how man was obsessive over how they look talked walked and the view of other for their approvment and how they don’t care that they may “die soon” or disintegrate into chalk. The rest is fodder basically meaning he just bumbled around without meaning and how the time deity criticizes but emphasizes with him.
Variations on a cloud first thing straight is not connected to Hawaii part ii or ruler of everything. Blatant reference to their song and overall theme but not connected. Also this supports why I think the ruler of everything is to be taken into consideration when talking about Hawaii part ii.
Song starts out with 2 singers both the same person optimistic high tuned awaiting and departing for the future and seeing the beauty of it and the one who doesn’t want to leave the world and what they made and how it’s disappearing in a basic sense. The context is how basically 9/11 yada yada but in 9/11 people were getting burned to death and were stuck onto so people saw as these people were jumping off holding hands to their death which is what the singer is detailing their thoughts and life as it flashes before their eyes “a little bit of magic to end the world”. You can relate the lyrics to this no need to elaborate it shows how he tells of his mother and friends and how they were to him, what he built up how it’s crashing down, and how he/optimistic one accepts it how the memories keep on coming back and coming back as he falls to his death but happy and accept for what is to be for the life he lived and what may lay ahead. Very good song too. I believe this song was also a passion project to the viewers who understand it like a wrap up and gift for a final departure. And so too with these songs for it wraps up the explanation of this song and the rest of all of this.