Golden the company have some research done on the subject of different white paints's flexibility showing that pure titanium white is extremely flexible that won't crack at all even after bend over a very thin stick, which is very impressive. And the paint tinted with zinc cracks easily. Zinc white reacts with oil to produce soap and wraps oil inside thus oxidization is prevented therefore the cracking happening.
The diversity of your skills, and the ability with which you explain the various techniques you have mastered, provide wonderful instruction for those who watch you. I am truly impressed by what you have accomplished, and by the charming manner in which you explains things.
What it looks like is that the titanium white is cooler (bluish appearance) and de-saturates the other color when tinting. The lead white instead appears warmer (orangey appearance), but more than that I'd think it's that it does not de-saturate the other color when tinting.
These colors/materials videos are so helpful! I appreciate you sharing so much of what you’ve learned, I wouldn’t be able to afford painting if I was shooting in the dark with the paints I buy
Love your videos, with it's detailed but easy to follow explanation. Love the music too. Thanks again for being so generous with your time and knowledge :)
Great video! I just reordered some whites and I ordered Titanium/Zinc White. I wanted something that was less opaque and more pearlescent. I will let you know how I like it. Ty for this review ❤
I hope you like it! If you are used to using Titanium white, remember Lead white is not as strong so it will take less color to tint it. Thanks for watching :)
Titanium white is actually the lightest hue of blue in the world. Is why I try to never use it except for extreme hi-lights and limited opaque mixes of light blues or pinks. It will always slightly change the hue because it is a blue color. Lead white leans a tiny bit warm. Basically, the lightest yellow in the world. Flake white is more neutral but more opaque as other Titaniums. I use a lot of Barite white for making my tints. It will never change the hue whatsoever, lightens the color up. It comes out of the tube nasty looking is why I think most folks shy away. You can use as much as you need to lighten any hue and not worry about it changing the hue and it's cheap. It will cause opaque colors to become more transparent for water and sky or sun shining through the backside of an object such as tree foliage or an human ear. You can create better mid-tone shadows with it because shadows are not objects. Rather they are a floating tone of light over surfaces. I use to only use titanium white for everything. It drove me crazy, turning my Prussian blue to an intense color.
I can't believe I haven't tried lead white yet! Titanium sucks the life out of any colour you mix it with. I find it good for highlights as well as cool shadows. Thanks for this video!
Ive just started getting back into painting after 30 years of life that took me to a different place . ive used acrylics in the past , but i really want to do oils . i went out and got into a habit of buying this book and that book . i was really avoiding putting paint on canvas in fear of thinking that im so rubbish at this and then one day i just thought JUST DO IT!!! I have to say i really enjoy your videos , you give me more confidence with my work . i want to subscribe but im not very good with computers and i dont know if i get charged for subscribing or that im in some kind of contract , im a bit technophobic . anyway i wanted to thank you
Thanks so much for watching! I'm so glad my videos have proved helpful to you and welcome to the wonderful world of oil painting! :) Subscribing to any channel on TH-cam is completely free, you will not be charged or enter into any kind of contract. Some channels may run commercials before the video if they are monetized but mine is not, so no ads here. :)
Didn't think of that! LOL It would be somewhere in between the Genuine Lead White and Regular Titanium White. The Flake White Hue is still Titanium so it will have the whiter opacity to it.
I love this kind of video, you should make a series with different pigments that have a similar color, (if you haven't done it yet) i'm subscribing to you, amazing artist, youtube needs more creators like you!
Well, lead white as a warm white it'd probably grey greens and purples/violetes meanwhile the titanium white is cool and it'll grey out any orangy warm color,,, i add back some pure yellow/orange to fix that up while i try lighten up a color unless its convinient for my painting,,,
The differences in the whites aren't really enough to dull the colors. The warm/cool aspect is very very subtle. However I do know many artists who use both kind of white for different purposes. Thanks for watching! :)
Your video is quite useful and I learn a lot from it but please keep volume of the background music low (also choose a slow & smooth melody to match the mood). Thanks
The 'chalky' appearance of tints made with titanium white is due to the blue spectral response of titanium dioxide. In other words, titanium white reflects more of the blue light in the visible light spectrum than does lead white. This is also why it appears to be a brighter white than lead white. The higher refractive index of titanium white (R.I. 2.72) compared to lead white (R.I. 2.01) also means it has high covering or hiding power, making it more opaque. This is a disadvantage for most artists since it easily overpowers many colors.
Thanks for another great comment from my favorite oil paint brand! :) Great explanation of why titanium white is "whiter" than lead white. I love lead white, but also find titanium white to be useful in certain instances.
Thanks: you are very good and educational. I read something interesting: Titanium white expands and contracts nearly 4 times that of lead white. My conclusion: lead white oil paint must be very Archival. I also noted: some people are making their own lead white with: lead and horse manure. Also: Lead white no. 2 is made with walnut oil (less yellow?).
Lead White oil paint is VERY archival! Lead is actually one of the best things you can add to an oil painting to make it last longer. Lead helps polymers remain flexible and not turn brittle over time...for this same reason small amounts are added to electrical cord covers to keep them from cracking as they age. It will have the same effect on an oil paint layer. Thanks for watching! :)
One correction. I have heard that lead can get absorbed through the skin, if it is mixed with turpentine. Mineral spirits will not do this, but the organic nature of natural turpentine will. I not certain how to verify this, but it is worth being a little extra careful, if you use turpentine with lead white.
Yes I have heard that too. I always wear a barrier cream when painting that prevents skin absorption. Gloves in a Bottle is good and Winsor & Newton makes one as well. Thanks for watching!
Hey, Mr Walcott! I just love the intro music. Have you made the "jingle" yourself? Anyway, it makes the painting tutorials more fun and it makes my head move like a curious dog. thanks. Ejay
Another thing to say about titanium white is that being an inert pigment (like calcium carbonate, for instance) it doesn't bound properly with the oil, and as a consequence the oil will tend to move up the surface. This leads inevitably to a fairly strong yellowing of the paint. And a great thing about lead white is that it actually doesn't darken when mixed with cadmiums, ultramarine blu, genuine vermillion and yolk - several authors wrongly suggested that in the past 200 years or so. There's plenty of literature on the subject, and I've done my own tests too (for what it's worth).
Thanks for the great comment! I agree, Lead White has so many advantages. It's been around a long, long time and has proven to be a very reliable pigment.
Lead White forms soaps over time that increase transparency of the paint film. Titanium white does not form soaps that increase transparency over time.
When someone says eat lead its usually in form of a bullet from a firearm, but the result is usually the same, that being death. Nevertheless cannot get lead white unless authorised by conservation bodies like English Heritage, or working in or with British Museum, Tate Gallery, National Portrait Gallery. Or direct licence from Government.
Thank you for your videos. I like the way you explain things. I liked the jingle on your intro, but I have a difficult time hearing you when you have music all the way through. For those of us who are hearing impaired, or are starting to lose our hearing, the competition of your voice and the music is difficult to hear and is distracting. I love your videos, thank you.
I don't understand then why do companies still sell zinc white. I found some articles saying that some earlier painting using zinc white showing no problem but with quite different mediums and application than those of today's. But a lot of late painting do cracking like nightmare 😂.
Unfortunately we cannot buy traditional flake white in the U.K. or Europe any more. Some alternative have been developed but the only way to get the real stuff is old tubes off EBay (I have some in the post at the moment. Edit - I wrote this before you got to the W&N Flake White Hue.
Jason, have you tried Michael Harding's Stack Lead White? I just got a tube, but have yet to use it. Also, I would consider not using music throughout your videos. I have this complaint about so many similar demos. Music can be very distracting and adds absolutely nothing to a video whose sole purpose is to relay information. it's simply not needed. I enjoy the tips you present and that's all you need to do. But that's just my opinion.
Thanks for the comments! I go back and forth on the music myself. It always seems oddly empty without it. I try to keep it as low in the background as possible. I have not tried the M.H. Stack White. At some point I will have to give it a go!
Started using the stack white and it's quite special. I've never used anything quite like it before. Harding formulated it to replicate the whites of Rembrandt and it actually has those qualities. It is incredibly dense, but with a little medium it has a beautiful flow and a truly unique texture.
It is easy to make your own without the horse shit method ...see making flake white on TH-cam. It is a helluva lot cheaper. Takes about 3 months? I produced 28 tubes worth in one go from one piece of lead sheet you can get at your hardware store_called roof flashing. You don't need to pay over inflated prices
Thanks for the information! I admire those who are courageous enough to make their own paint! I would also suggest that people weigh the cost savings of making your own against the convenience and ease of ready made paint. Especially with Lead White since the dry pigment could be toxic if you breathe it accidently. Thanks for the comment!
As artists, have you ever considered that since the horizon is always dead level, how can earth curvature also exist? I mean, it's the vanishing point, not the disappearing over the curvature point ?? Great Channel btw !!
Because is a method to measure what we see with our eyes- there are multiple vanishing points- when something is tilted to be non parallel from the ground it will vanish to a imaginary vanishing point- basically the horizon gets carried with the XYZ of the object- I think those two things you mention have nothing to do with each other in that sense.
@@bozmundarts2614 Are you aware that nowhere in nature has it been witnessed that standing bodies of water can conform to the exterior of objects, or a pressurized system coexisting alongside a vacuum without 'solid separation'? This flies in the face of Scientific method.
What happens when you mix lead white with mineral spirits or turpentine (which is quite a common practise)? Does that not release fumes that contain lead white particles too?
Hi Jason, how do you feel about using Permalba white for practice painting? I have a tube that I don’t want to waste. However, I‘ve read a lot of negatives about using it for serious work.
I think Permalba would be fine for practice work. It's a student grade paint (I believe) given the price point, but I know a lot of people use it and like it. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching! If you are painting into wet blue then I would use Titanium. Lead white tends to be a weaker tinter. I use both whites as sometimes you need that extra really white, white that Titanium gives
I use zinc white, because it is better for mixing, when it's semi transparent. Red stays Red and doesn't become pink. Titanium white makes colors too milky. So I use it only some times. Lead white is forbidden in Europe because it's toxic. It is not good for the environment. There is another white from Schmincke, called Kremser white, that simulates lead white.
I would try to avoid Zinc White if possible. It has shown to be unstable over the long term and can cause cracking. It's best to use a Flake White imitation if you can't get the real thing. My favorite is Winsor & Newton's "Flake White Hue". Thanks for watching! :)
@@walcottfineart5088 I got this www.jacksonsart.com/blog/2020/08/09/the-pros-and-cons-of-zinc-white-oil-paint/ (and other information from e. g. Kremer Pigmente that say the same) searching for cracking of zinc white. Do you have more concrete information?
I live in France. Lead based oil paint is very hard to find; actually it is down right impossible. Is there a replacement I can use instead? Thank you for your videos, they are inspiring and informative.
Thanks for the comment! As far as I know there isn't any reaction between lead and any modern pigments. It's a pretty stable color. There are a few circumstances in which reactions can occur but they are all conditions which paintings wouldn't normally be exposed to. It has nothing to do with the mixing of colors.
Their Flake White is good, I like it. I did try the Flemish White once and thought the texture was weird. It's kind of syrupy, but apparently that is the correct traditional way it should be...It didn't work for me personally :) Thanks for watching!
Great videos! Very informative! Could you comment on the toxicity of Titanium white? Especially that of Winsor and Newton, which contains PW6 and PW4. I recently bought a tube of it and was surprised to see the label on the back said it contained lead and what extremely toxic to aquatic life. What's that all about? Thanks!
Thanks for watching! I'm a little confused by your question. Titanium White (PW6) is not known to have any toxicity. If the tube contains Lead, then that would make it a Lead White (aka Cremnitz White), but that is PW1. Is it possible that the label was put on that tube by mistake? PW4 is Zinc White (also non toxic) which is sometimes added to Titanium to improve its optical qualities.
@@walcottfineart5088 That was my understanding too; however, upon delivery of a tube of Winsor and Newton Titanium White Artists' Oil, I noticed the label on the back. For pigments, it lists PW6, PW4 and says "This product contains lead". I also says that it's "Toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects.". I went to the Winsor and Newton website to check the MSDS and it says the same thing. I can't seem to find an answer as to where the toxicity is coming from. Link to MSDS: d4of2brjuv1jo.cloudfront.net/assetfiles/fdbaad4a-8bbf-45ba-93cc-48cf6748e480SAFETY%20DATA%20SHEET-12964-1-1.pdf
@@bahamu Yeah , I'm not sure either. Could be a standard thing they print just to cover themselves. At any rate the paint isn't toxic so as long as you use it normally you'll be fine.
I am fine, thanks for asking! :) I got burnt out on making videos and then when the pandemic hit I just never got back on track with it. I hope to make new ones again at some point, but not sure when yet. :) Thanks for watching!
Do I need warm whites (for example some lead or I can mix them just with titanium white and italian brown orche for example and will work the same? Just wondering if its realy something special about them beyond only texture tint stength. Or maybe people buy them for convenience?
Thanks for watching! :) Great question. If you are just going after the warm color then mixing your warm white is fine. Lead White has other properties to it that can't be mimicked though, like its translucency for one.
If you can, find a haz-mat collection center near you. They are often part of your local recycling center. They will take items like old paint containing cadmiums/lead as well as old solvents and thinners
You can put all remaining paint in a jar with some turpentine, and later use the mix to prime your canvases. The mix will take different greyish brownish tones depending on what's in it.
Hi Jason, great video as always! Say I have a question, as I bought a set of Old Holland oil paints, it came with both Titanium and Zinc white. Would it be ok to mix just a little of the Zinc white to your Titanium white to make the Titanium white less opaque , or would you just totally not use the Zinc white? Thanks in advance!
Great question! There is some debate about whether any zinc at all is terrible or whether below a certain percentage is OK. Some say 15% or less is fine, others say none at all. It's really up to each artist to decide what they are comfortable with. If you are going to mix the Zinc White with the Titanium White, I would also add some linseed oil to the mix to increase the film's durability or a medium that adds oil to the paint. Thank for watching!
does merely using less titanium white result in the same effect as using more flake white? (Ex: trying mixing the same color with each of the two whites by adding various amounts until It's are the same color). Or are there special properties that make the two shades not equal?
Thanks for watching and great question! No, it is not simply a matter tinting strength. Titanium White is very opaque and most Titanium Whites on the market are cut down with about 10-15% Zinc White to make them more usable. Flake White has unique properties that Titanium just doesn't. It has a warmth and translucency to it that can't be mimicked. :)
Hello, I'm a little bit confused about the Blockx's lead white. On your video it named "mixed white", I do research on their site and found some white, so it's titanium mixed zinc ( PW6+PW4 ) or Blockx Flake white ( PW1 ) ? Thank you.
Thanks for a great question! Since this video was posted, Blockx has discontinued their "Mixed White" with the Lead White in it. Blockx Flake White is the one to go with if you want to try a lead white from them. Thanks for watching! :)
Hi and how are you going. I seem to have missed something in your statement or I do not fully understand what you stated. Are you saying that the Rembrandt Permanent Madder deep is equivalent to Permanent Alizarin Crimson? With Regards and Best Wishes Gary and Christine Tangeman.
Thanks for watching! :) Yes, the Rembrandt Permanent Madder Deep specifically is the closest color I've ever found to genuine Alizarin Crimson. The same pigment from other makers isn't as close for some reason. The Rembrandt color is Pyrrole Rubine (PR264) and it is far more lightfast than true Alizarin (PR83).
Thanks for the video. Did you ever try Gamblin's flake white replacement? If so, then how does it compare with the real flake white? Does it have a similar tinting strength?
Thanks for watching! I do not recommend Gamblin's Flake White Replacement because it yellows very badly very quickly. For a demo you can watch my "Yellowing in White Oil Paint" video. Gamblin is a great company but they dropped the ball on that one product. I like Winsor & Newtons Flake White Hue as a replacement for real Flake White. Hope that helps!
i used firstly titanium white but it is not good mixture between in two colors now i am useing zinc white...its very smooth so tell me.according to u whos is the best colors
Thanks for watching! I have heard that Zinc White is not good because it doesn't age well and tends to crack. I would recommend Winsor & Newton "Flake White Hue". If you don't or can't use a genuine lead white then that is the next best thing. Try it and see what you think. :)
Thank you so much for these videos. You're honestly saving me so much money (and also letting me know when it is okay to splurge). I do have a question, though: what do you think of paints like Transparent White by say, W&N or Rembrandt, for instance, and also Soft Mixing White and Iridescent White? Also, can you name a good cool white, preferably transparent alternative to Zinc White? Thanks again! I am now a subscriber :)
Thanks so much for watching, subscribing and for the nice comment! Actually I haven't tried those particular whites you mentioned, but Rembrandt and Winsor & Newton are both great brands, so I'm sure one of their Transparent Whites would be of good quality. :)
Why is it necessary to add music to these otherwise absolutely perfect clips? This instance I find is strikingly loud and distracting. Other than that I only have the most positive comments about the quality of your pigments clips: they are very thorough, well produced and absolutely crammed with truely valuable info not available elsewhere. I will be going through all of your YT channel in the next few days, that's for sure. Thanks a lot for sharing and all the time and effort you put in here. Take care.
Oh Shit... I bought a super huge tube of Zinc White. But the package reads as: Titanium white/refined linseed oil & Sunflower oil. Now what does that mean?
That is strange. It might be a "Zinc White Hue". If there is a pigment index number listed somewhere on the tube, check it. If it says PW6 that is Titanium which is fine. If it is a mixture of PW6 and PW4 that is OK too.
I've a huge favour to ask .I hope you can help me I've run out of lead white paint. Mabee you can send me some in south Africa. My batch I make is not quite ready.
...its a good white thats not over powering when used in mixes ( PW6 and PW4 , titanium mixed with zinc ) ...the winton series is the student grade brand of W&N which means not as much pigment as the artist grade series...but when it comes to white oil paint, high pigment doesn't matter as much as in reds, blues, and yellows.
Thanks for watching! Permalba is made by Weber, not Gamblin. I have never used it, but some people like it. Gamblin's Titanium White is nice, but I can't recommend their "Flake White Replacement". It yellows too badly. You might want to watch my video on the yellowing of white paints. th-cam.com/video/nW6k-w4Jh24/w-d-xo.html
I'm not sure in what way you meant the use of egg? You can use egg tempera as an underpainting for oils, but you would need to let it dry first. I have heard of artists mixing egg yolk with the oil paint itself, but I don't know what the advantages would be to that. Thanks for watching!
@@walcottfineart5088 I’ve seen white paints mixed with egg . Guessing egg white. Id think using the yoke makes it yellow but I could see using that as a warm white,A guy in New York sells it.supposed to be whitest white. Been ten years May just try it.
@@walcottfineart5088 What happens when you mix it with mineral spirits or turpentine which is a common practise? Does that not release fumes that contain lead white particles too?
@@Frankdarnese No, lead does not give off any fumes or vapors or anything like that. Lead White is quite safe as long as you handle it properly and wash your hands throughly after using it. Thanks for watching!
Your content is informative, to say the least, and well presented. EXCEPT for the inane intro music. This is the only site at which I fell compelled to mute for about 10 seconds. Yuck! You can do much better. If nothing else, silence is golden. There is a LOT of gorgeous music out there which is in the public domain.
Since this video was released, research has shown that zinc white in quite small amounts causes embrittlement of oil paint. The authors of the study in the link below are unsure if any amount of zinc is safe. www.justpaint.org/zinc-oxide-reviewing-the-research/
Artist's oil paint manufacturers that have a long history and experience still continue to include some zinc oxide in their whites, years after these researches. So, who's right? Note also that the vast majority of oil paintings at the last 100 years ( or so ) have Titanium/ zinc white in them ... Lithopone white ( Pw5 ) is an alternative, also. I haven't used it yet, but I' m considering it seriously. There is no much information about it, though..
@@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 I have some linseed oil paint patches with 2:10 Zinc Oxide to Titanium Oxide by weight in refined linseed oil and that's lasted well, as an exterior paint for wood, over four years. For artists paint, you could make some sampled and follow the testing process shown in the article linked in my last comment. The easiest test is for crack resistance on a flexible backing.
@@jauld360 Thanks for responding. By the way, I'm considering the possibility to switch from Titanium/ zinc white ( that I'm mostly using currently ) to lithopone white ( PW5). It's available where I'm living ( I have found PW5 as "opaque white" by Lukas ), but not many people seem to be familiar with it. Do you have any opinion about lithopone? I'm mostly concerned about several of my works that have thick impasto layers..
@@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 One of the components, zinc sulphide, can darken over time, with exposure to UV. That's taken from Wikipedia. Other than that, I don't know of its other properties.
@@jauld360 I was interested because PW5 is supposed to be somewhere in the middle between Titanium and flake white in terms of tinting strength, opacity, etc.., without the zinc oxide issues or the toxicity of lead whites. I have heard that this " darkening" that was an issue in the past, has been fixed or improved more recently, but I can't tell for sure.. Anyway, thanks again for the responses.
I was tricked in buying flake white hue when i was ignorant thinking it was flake white which is hard to find at a reasonable price. Its made up of zine and titanium.
I keep coming back to your material videos, you explain it so beautifully...
Thanks so much for the nice comment! I'm glad my videos are helpful. :)
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Yes I agree same here
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Golden the company have some research done on the subject of different white paints's flexibility showing that pure titanium white is extremely flexible that won't crack at all even after bend over a very thin stick, which is very impressive. And the paint tinted with zinc cracks easily. Zinc white reacts with oil to produce soap and wraps oil inside thus oxidization is prevented therefore the cracking happening.
The diversity of your skills, and the ability with which you explain the various techniques you have mastered, provide wonderful instruction for those who watch you. I am truly impressed by what you have accomplished, and by the charming manner in which you explains things.
Wow, thanks for the nice compliment! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
These videos help me so much as I'm preparing to paint for the first time! Thank you so much!
Thanks for watching! I'm so glad that you enjoyed it and found it useful. :)
What it looks like is that the titanium white is cooler (bluish appearance) and de-saturates the other color when tinting. The lead white instead appears warmer (orangey appearance), but more than that I'd think it's that it does not de-saturate the other color when tinting.
Yes, you are absolutely correct! Titanium does tend to be much cooler than Lead White. Thanks for watching! :)
These colors/materials videos are so helpful! I appreciate you sharing so much of what you’ve learned, I wouldn’t be able to afford painting if I was shooting in the dark with the paints I buy
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching :)
Very helpful information. I was considering trying zinc white, but after this, I'm definitely going to steer clear. Thank you!
Thanks Jared! :)
Love your videos, with it's detailed but easy to follow explanation. Love the music too. Thanks again for being so generous with your time and knowledge :)
Thank you for the nice compliment and for watching! I'm glad you've enjoyed my channel. :)
I've been painting (water and oils) for some 40 plus years and I still learn something from his videos! Many Thanks!
I also get a chuckle when he struggles to keep his hands clean! I can so relate!
@@lostlatinlover LOL Thanks for the nice comments!
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Thank you for sharing! 💓
Thanks so much for the nice comment! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
Great video! I just reordered some whites and I ordered Titanium/Zinc White.
I wanted something that was less opaque and more pearlescent.
I will let you know how I like it. Ty for this review ❤
Thanks Michelle! :) I'm glad the video was helpful!
Your videos are fantastic, and your art is BEAUTIFUL!!!
Thank you so much for the nice comment! I'm glad you've enjoyed the videos 😀
I love yours choice of background classical music. Thanks for very, very helpful tips.
Thanks so much for the nice comment! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. :)
It's too loud for me, can't hear some words...
You are so great at explaining. I really appreciate your attention to all the details of whatever you happen to be describing! Thank you!
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
Thanks to your video I’m going to switch to lead white for sure!
I hope you like it! If you are used to using Titanium white, remember Lead white is not as strong so it will take less color to tint it. Thanks for watching :)
I appreciate you sharing your deep knowledge of art pigments. You sir are a scientist! I had always wondered about titanium vs zinc. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! I'm so glad you enjoyed it. :)
What a brilliant Guy, thanks a lot!
Thanks for the nice comment and for watching! :)
Titanium white is actually the lightest hue of blue in the world. Is why I try to never use it except for extreme hi-lights and limited opaque mixes of light blues or pinks. It will always slightly change the hue because it is a blue color. Lead white leans a tiny bit warm. Basically, the lightest yellow in the world. Flake white is more neutral but more opaque as other Titaniums. I use a lot of Barite white for making my tints. It will never change the hue whatsoever, lightens the color up. It comes out of the tube nasty looking is why I think most folks shy away. You can use as much as you need to lighten any hue and not worry about it changing the hue and it's cheap. It will cause opaque colors to become more transparent for water and sky or sun shining through the backside of an object such as tree foliage or an human ear. You can create better mid-tone shadows with it because shadows are not objects. Rather they are a floating tone of light over surfaces. I use to only use titanium white for everything. It drove me crazy, turning my Prussian blue to an intense color.
I can't believe I haven't tried lead white yet! Titanium sucks the life out of any colour you mix it with. I find it good for highlights as well as cool shadows. Thanks for this video!
I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! Definitely give lead white a try. It's very different from Titanium. Thanks for watching!
Ive just started getting back into painting after 30 years of life that took me to a different place . ive used acrylics in the past , but i really want to do oils . i went out and got into a habit of buying this book and that book . i was really avoiding putting paint on canvas in fear of thinking that im so rubbish at this and then one day i just thought JUST DO IT!!! I have to say i really enjoy your videos , you give me more confidence with my work . i want to subscribe but im not very good with computers and i dont know if i get charged for subscribing or that im in some kind of contract , im a bit technophobic . anyway i wanted to thank you
Thanks so much for watching! I'm so glad my videos have proved helpful to you and welcome to the wonderful world of oil painting! :) Subscribing to any channel on TH-cam is completely free, you will not be charged or enter into any kind of contract. Some channels may run commercials before the video if they are monetized but mine is not, so no ads here. :)
i wish you had shown the mix with the W&N white also for comparison
Didn't think of that! LOL It would be somewhere in between the Genuine Lead White and Regular Titanium White. The Flake White Hue is still Titanium so it will have the whiter opacity to it.
lol thanks
I was thinking the same. :)
@@walcottfineart5088 any chance of add on update or remake the video??
@@adambachmann2633 Thanks for watching! I've posted several other videos on white since this one that will (hopefully) fill in the gaps :)
Thank you for all of your educational videos on art.
Thanks for watching and for the nice comment! I'm glad you've enjoyed my channel. :)
Thanks a lot for your videos, it has helped me to understand better the family colors.
You are so welcome!
oooooooo! thank you for the explanation for what some of the different whites were and how they apply
Thanks for watching and for commenting! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. :)
I learn a lot from your videos!! thank you
Tkx for the explanation on the eating danger on lead white. I always thougth it would be poisonous by simple touch.
No, lead white doesn't absorb through the skin. Thanks for watching! :)
Wow found your channel a few weeks ago . I've learnt so much thank you very much .
I'm so glad that you are enjoying my channel! I thank you for watching and for the comment. :)
Your videos are a Great Help. Thank You.
You are so amazing person.an artist ,with amazing! Teaching methods
Thank you so much 😀 I'm glad you've enjoyed my videos!
so very much appreciate this informative video. Thanks. Most helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
I love this kind of video, you should make a series with different pigments that have a similar color, (if you haven't done it yet) i'm subscribing to you, amazing artist, youtube needs more creators like you!
Thanks for the wonderful compliment! I'm glad you enjoyed my video. I will definitely make more like this in the future. Thanks for subscribing! :)
still coming back for reference, waiting for more material, hope you doing great!
Thanks for watching and for the nice comment! :)
Great video..Thank you for the good info!
Thanks so much for the nice comment! I'm glad you enjoyed it. :)
Well, lead white as a warm white it'd probably grey greens and purples/violetes meanwhile the titanium white is cool and it'll grey out any orangy warm color,,, i add back some pure yellow/orange to fix that up while i try lighten up a color unless its convinient for my painting,,,
The differences in the whites aren't really enough to dull the colors. The warm/cool aspect is very very subtle. However I do know many artists who use both kind of white for different purposes. Thanks for watching! :)
Your video is quite useful and I learn a lot from it but please keep volume of the background music low (also choose a slow & smooth melody to match the mood). Thanks
The 'chalky' appearance of tints made with titanium white is due to the blue spectral response of titanium dioxide. In other words, titanium white reflects more of the blue light in the visible light spectrum than does lead white. This is also why it appears to be a brighter white than lead white. The higher refractive index of titanium white (R.I. 2.72) compared to lead white (R.I. 2.01) also means it has high covering or hiding power, making it more opaque. This is a disadvantage for most artists since it easily overpowers many colors.
Thanks for another great comment from my favorite oil paint brand! :) Great explanation of why titanium white is "whiter" than lead white. I love lead white, but also find titanium white to be useful in certain instances.
@@walcottfineart5088 It is useful when yuo need more opacity and when you want to tint cool colors.
Thanks: you are very good and educational. I read something interesting: Titanium white expands and contracts nearly 4 times that of lead white. My conclusion: lead white oil paint must be very Archival. I also noted: some people are making their own lead white with: lead and horse manure. Also: Lead white no. 2 is made with walnut oil (less yellow?).
Lead White oil paint is VERY archival! Lead is actually one of the best things you can add to an oil painting to make it last longer. Lead helps polymers remain flexible and not turn brittle over time...for this same reason small amounts are added to electrical cord covers to keep them from cracking as they age. It will have the same effect on an oil paint layer. Thanks for watching! :)
Another advantage of adding the zinc in small quantities is because of its Ultraviolet Light absorbing abilities to help keep yellowing at bay.
I did not know that! Thanks for the great comment and for watching! :)
Walcott Fine Art thanks for making these video’s! I enjoy them and learn.
Thanks for the nice comment!
My go to brand of white would have to be Weber Permalba white...
One correction. I have heard that lead can get absorbed through the skin, if it is mixed with turpentine. Mineral spirits will not do this, but the organic nature of natural turpentine will. I not certain how to verify this, but it is worth being a little extra careful, if you use turpentine with lead white.
Yes I have heard that too. I always wear a barrier cream when painting that prevents skin absorption. Gloves in a Bottle is good and Winsor & Newton makes one as well. Thanks for watching!
Thank you, very informative!
Thanks for the comment! I'm so glad you enjoyed this. :)
thanks again! :D I'm learning a lot from you!
I'm so glad you find my videos helpful! Thanks for the nice comment. :)
Hey, Mr Walcott!
I just love the intro music. Have you made the "jingle" yourself? Anyway, it makes the painting tutorials more fun and it makes my head move like a curious dog.
thanks.
Ejay
Thanks for the comment! No I purchased the jingle from Pond5. Glad you enjoy it!
Another thing to say about titanium white is that being an inert pigment (like calcium carbonate, for instance) it doesn't bound properly with the oil, and as a consequence the oil will tend to move up the surface. This leads inevitably to a fairly strong yellowing of the paint.
And a great thing about lead white is that it actually doesn't darken when mixed with cadmiums, ultramarine blu, genuine vermillion and yolk - several authors wrongly suggested that in the past 200 years or so. There's plenty of literature on the subject, and I've done my own tests too (for what it's worth).
Thanks for the great comment! I agree, Lead White has so many advantages. It's been around a long, long time and has proven to be a very reliable pigment.
Lead White forms soaps over time that increase transparency of the paint film. Titanium white does not form soaps that increase transparency over time.
Super clair ! Well explained !
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Vivid white by Pebeo , a French company is very popular in our country. Very strong and good for highlights:-)
Thanks for the info! I have never used that color, but hopefully your comment will help someone who wants to try it. :)
Turkey?
When someone says eat lead its usually in form of a bullet from a firearm, but the result is usually the same, that being death.
Nevertheless cannot get lead white unless authorised by conservation bodies like English Heritage, or working in or with British Museum, Tate Gallery, National Portrait Gallery. Or direct licence from Government.
PS I absolutely enjoy your choice of Music. Music to my ears, even though I am ( I think slightly) tone deaf
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. :)
You are awesome , God bless you.
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it.
You are very welcome Mr.Walcott
UK Gov/Europe restricting Cadmium based paints.
Mercury based reds are very expensive.
Thank you for your videos. I like the way you explain things. I liked the jingle on your intro, but I have a difficult time hearing you when you have music all the way through. For those of us who are hearing impaired, or are starting to lose our hearing, the competition of your voice and the music is difficult to hear and is distracting.
I love your videos, thank you.
Thanks for watching! Yes, I have stopped using music in my more recent videos.
I don't understand then why do companies still sell zinc white. I found some articles saying that some earlier painting using zinc white showing no problem but with quite different mediums and application than those of today's. But a lot of late painting do cracking like nightmare 😂.
They sell it because there is a demand for it. It's as simple as that. You should be fine if you just avoid using zinc white. Thanks for watching!
Unfortunately we cannot buy traditional flake white in the U.K. or Europe any more. Some alternative have been developed but the only way to get the real stuff is old tubes off EBay (I have some in the post at the moment.
Edit - I wrote this before you got to the W&N Flake White Hue.
Yeah that sucks about the EU ban. Hopefully you can continue to find what you need on eBay! Thanks for watching :)
You know your materials well! I suck at explaining things hahahaha I should take some lessons on that!
Thanks for the comment! Glad you found it helpful. :)
Jason, have you tried Michael Harding's Stack Lead White? I just got a tube, but have yet to use it.
Also, I would consider not using music throughout your videos. I have this complaint about so many similar demos. Music can be very distracting and adds absolutely nothing to a video whose sole purpose is to relay information. it's simply not needed. I enjoy the tips you present and that's all you need to do. But that's just my opinion.
Thanks for the comments! I go back and forth on the music myself. It always seems oddly empty without it. I try to keep it as low in the background as possible. I have not tried the M.H. Stack White. At some point I will have to give it a go!
Started using the stack white and it's quite special. I've never used anything quite like it before. Harding formulated it to replicate the whites of Rembrandt and it actually has those qualities. It is incredibly dense, but with a little medium it has a beautiful flow and a truly unique texture.
Thanks! I will have to give it a try.
It is easy to make your own without the horse shit method ...see making flake white on TH-cam. It is a helluva lot cheaper. Takes about 3 months? I produced 28 tubes worth in one go from one piece of lead sheet you can get at your hardware store_called roof flashing. You don't need to pay over inflated prices
Thanks for the information! I admire those who are courageous enough to make their own paint! I would also suggest that people weigh the cost savings of making your own against the convenience and ease of ready made paint. Especially with Lead White since the dry pigment could be toxic if you breathe it accidently. Thanks for the comment!
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As artists, have you ever considered that since the horizon is always dead level, how can earth curvature also exist? I mean, it's the vanishing point, not the disappearing over the curvature point ?? Great Channel btw !!
Thanks for watching!
Because is a method to measure what we see with our eyes- there are multiple vanishing points- when something is tilted to be non parallel from the ground it will vanish to a imaginary vanishing point- basically the horizon gets carried with the XYZ of the object- I think those two things you mention have nothing to do with each other in that sense.
@@bozmundarts2614 Are you aware that nowhere in nature has it been witnessed that standing bodies of water can conform to the exterior of objects, or a pressurized system coexisting alongside a vacuum without 'solid separation'? This flies in the face of Scientific method.
@@bozmundarts2614 Check it out th-cam.com/video/qEaHjPF47_E/w-d-xo.html
Jason, is Mixing White the same as Lead White?
Good info. Thanks for explaining hew.
I'm glad you found it helpful! Thanks for the comment. :)
SSSOOO helpful! Thank You!
I'm so glad it helped you! :) Thanks for watching!
What is the name of the barrier cream you put on your hands? I have been using disposable gloves. Thanks for the great videos!!!
I've seen a lotion called "Gloves in a Bottle" mentioned on the Jerrysartarama channel.
What happens when you mix lead white with mineral spirits or turpentine (which is quite a common practise)? Does that not release fumes that contain lead white particles too?
Hi Jason, how do you feel about using Permalba white for practice painting? I have a tube that I don’t want to waste. However, I‘ve read a lot of negatives about using it for serious work.
I think Permalba would be fine for practice work. It's a student grade paint (I believe) given the price point, but I know a lot of people use it and like it. Thanks for watching!
Let say i'm paintinf blue sky. Alla prima. Its easier to load on blue wet, white titanium or lead white?
Thanks for watching! If you are painting into wet blue then I would use Titanium. Lead white tends to be a weaker tinter. I use both whites as sometimes you need that extra really white, white that Titanium gives
Thank you for your video!!!
I'm glad you enjoyed it :) Thanks for watching!
I use zinc white, because it is better for mixing, when it's semi transparent. Red stays Red and doesn't become pink. Titanium white makes colors too milky. So I use it only some times. Lead white is forbidden in Europe because it's toxic. It is not good for the environment. There is another white from Schmincke, called Kremser white, that simulates lead white.
I would try to avoid Zinc White if possible. It has shown to be unstable over the long term and can cause cracking. It's best to use a Flake White imitation if you can't get the real thing. My favorite is Winsor & Newton's "Flake White Hue". Thanks for watching! :)
@@walcottfineart5088 I got this www.jacksonsart.com/blog/2020/08/09/the-pros-and-cons-of-zinc-white-oil-paint/ (and other information from e. g. Kremer Pigmente that say the same) searching for cracking of zinc white. Do you have more concrete information?
I live in France. Lead based oil paint is very hard to find; actually it is down right impossible. Is there a replacement I can use instead? Thank you for your videos, they are inspiring and informative.
Thanks for watching! My favorite lead white substitute is the "Flake White Hue" made Winsor & Newton. Hope that helps! :)
How does lead react to the chemicals in other colors? Your videos a so good.
Thanks for the comment! As far as I know there isn't any reaction between lead and any modern pigments. It's a pretty stable color. There are a few circumstances in which reactions can occur but they are all conditions which paintings wouldn't normally be exposed to. It has nothing to do with the mixing of colors.
What about the mixing white ? I've seen a video about it and it's really interesting because it retain the saturation of the mixed color
A number of brands have a Mixing White, so it would depend on how strong they make it. Usually they are Titanium/Zinc Whites. Thanks for watching! :)
You've tried Flake White or Flemish White by Utrecht?
Their Flake White is good, I like it. I did try the Flemish White once and thought the texture was weird. It's kind of syrupy, but apparently that is the correct traditional way it should be...It didn't work for me personally :) Thanks for watching!
Great videos! Very informative!
Could you comment on the toxicity of Titanium white? Especially that of Winsor and Newton, which contains PW6 and PW4. I recently bought a tube of it and was surprised to see the label on the back said it contained lead and what extremely toxic to aquatic life. What's that all about?
Thanks!
Thanks for watching! I'm a little confused by your question. Titanium White (PW6) is not known to have any toxicity. If the tube contains Lead, then that would make it a Lead White (aka Cremnitz White), but that is PW1. Is it possible that the label was put on that tube by mistake? PW4 is Zinc White (also non toxic) which is sometimes added to Titanium to improve its optical qualities.
@@walcottfineart5088 That was my understanding too; however, upon delivery of a tube of Winsor and Newton Titanium White Artists' Oil, I noticed the label on the back. For pigments, it lists PW6, PW4 and says "This product contains lead". I also says that it's "Toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects.".
I went to the Winsor and Newton website to check the MSDS and it says the same thing. I can't seem to find an answer as to where the toxicity is coming from.
Link to MSDS:
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@@bahamu Yeah , I'm not sure either. Could be a standard thing they print just to cover themselves. At any rate the paint isn't toxic so as long as you use it normally you'll be fine.
Does anyone know why there have been no new post from this channel in so long? I honestly hope Mr. Walcott is ok.
I am fine, thanks for asking! :) I got burnt out on making videos and then when the pandemic hit I just never got back on track with it. I hope to make new ones again at some point, but not sure when yet. :) Thanks for watching!
Do I need warm whites (for example some lead or I can mix them just with titanium white and italian brown orche for example and will work the same? Just wondering if its realy something special about them beyond only texture tint stength. Or maybe people buy them for convenience?
Thanks for watching! :) Great question. If you are just going after the warm color then mixing your warm white is fine. Lead White has other properties to it that can't be mimicked though, like its translucency for one.
what do i do with left over lead or cadmium paints that i need to throw away
If you can, find a haz-mat collection center near you. They are often part of your local recycling center. They will take items like old paint containing cadmiums/lead as well as old solvents and thinners
You can put all remaining paint in a jar with some turpentine, and later use the mix to prime your canvases. The mix will take different greyish brownish tones depending on what's in it.
You do a very nice job explaining paints and brands. Put some heavy metal in your music track, after all, it's just faster tempo classical?
Thanks for the comment! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. :)
+Walcott Fine Art you're very welcome Sir. \M/
Do u know if Acrylic paint brands carry lead or flake white?
Not to my knowledge. It's mainly an oil paint thing. Thanks for watching!
@@walcottfineart5088 i thought so. In acrylic i like to dilute Titanium white with gel medium and a warm yellow to make ( flake white hue)
Hi Jason, great video as always! Say I have a question, as I bought a set of Old Holland oil paints, it came with both Titanium and Zinc white. Would it be ok to mix just a little of the Zinc white to your Titanium white to make the Titanium white less opaque , or would you just totally not use the Zinc white? Thanks in advance!
Great question! There is some debate about whether any zinc at all is terrible or whether below a certain percentage is OK. Some say 15% or less is fine, others say none at all. It's really up to each artist to decide what they are comfortable with. If you are going to mix the Zinc White with the Titanium White, I would also add some linseed oil to the mix to increase the film's durability or a medium that adds oil to the paint. Thank for watching!
does merely using less titanium white result in the same effect as using more flake white? (Ex: trying mixing the same color with each of the two whites by adding various amounts until It's are the same color).
Or are there special properties that make the two shades not equal?
Thanks for watching and great question! No, it is not simply a matter tinting strength. Titanium White is very opaque and most Titanium Whites on the market are cut down with about 10-15% Zinc White to make them more usable. Flake White has unique properties that Titanium just doesn't. It has a warmth and translucency to it that can't be mimicked. :)
thanks for the explanation :)
Where do i get the grey palette
It's a Jack Richeson Grey Matters paper palette. You can find them pretty much at any art supply website and Amazon too. Thanks for watching! :)
Hello, I'm a little bit confused about the Blockx's lead white. On your video it named "mixed white", I do research on their site and found some white, so it's titanium mixed zinc ( PW6+PW4 ) or Blockx Flake white ( PW1 ) ? Thank you.
Thanks for a great question! Since this video was posted, Blockx has discontinued their "Mixed White" with the Lead White in it. Blockx Flake White is the one to go with if you want to try a lead white from them. Thanks for watching! :)
@@walcottfineart5088 Thank you, I'm enjoy every single video of yours, all are so useful and informative.
Hi and how are you going.
I seem to have missed something in your statement or I do not fully understand what you stated.
Are you saying that the Rembrandt Permanent Madder deep is equivalent to Permanent Alizarin Crimson?
With Regards and Best Wishes Gary and Christine Tangeman.
Thanks for watching! :) Yes, the Rembrandt Permanent Madder Deep specifically is the closest color I've ever found to genuine Alizarin Crimson. The same pigment from other makers isn't as close for some reason. The Rembrandt color is Pyrrole Rubine (PR264) and it is far more lightfast than true Alizarin (PR83).
Thanks for the video. Did you ever try Gamblin's flake white replacement? If so, then how does it compare with the real flake white? Does it have a similar tinting strength?
Thanks for watching! I do not recommend Gamblin's Flake White Replacement because it yellows very badly very quickly. For a demo you can watch my "Yellowing in White Oil Paint" video. Gamblin is a great company but they dropped the ball on that one product. I like Winsor & Newtons Flake White Hue as a replacement for real Flake White. Hope that helps!
Gamliñs white replacement is still titanium white! It will still turn yellow.
i used firstly titanium white but it is not good mixture between in two colors now i am useing zinc white...its very smooth so tell me.according to u whos is the best colors
Thanks for watching! I have heard that Zinc White is not good because it doesn't age well and tends to crack. I would recommend Winsor & Newton "Flake White Hue". If you don't or can't use a genuine lead white then that is the next best thing. Try it and see what you think. :)
Thank you so much for these videos. You're honestly saving me so much money (and also letting me know when it is okay to splurge). I do have a question, though: what do you think of paints like Transparent White by say, W&N or Rembrandt, for instance, and also Soft Mixing White and Iridescent White? Also, can you name a good cool white, preferably transparent alternative to Zinc White? Thanks again! I am now a subscriber :)
Thanks so much for watching, subscribing and for the nice comment! Actually I haven't tried those particular whites you mentioned, but Rembrandt and Winsor & Newton are both great brands, so I'm sure one of their Transparent Whites would be of good quality. :)
the schmincke oils have a zinc oxide and a zinc sulphite do you know if they would both be the same with the flaking problem?
Thanks for watching! That is a great question and I will have to do some reasearch on it. I never heard of zinc sulphite, so I will look into it.
Thank you :)
Where can you buy rublev oil paint?
You can get Rublev from www.naturalpigments.com Thanks for watching!
Why is it necessary to add music to these otherwise absolutely perfect clips? This instance I find is strikingly loud and distracting. Other than that I only have the most positive comments about the quality of your pigments clips: they are very thorough, well produced and absolutely crammed with truely valuable info not available elsewhere. I will be going through all of your YT channel in the next few days, that's for sure. Thanks a lot for sharing and all the time and effort you put in here. Take care.
Thanks for watching and for the nice comments! I'm glad that you found the video informative.
maybe the word used could be? more a pastel looking colour?
Oh Shit... I bought a super huge tube of Zinc White. But the package reads as: Titanium white/refined linseed oil & Sunflower oil. Now what does that mean?
That is strange. It might be a "Zinc White Hue". If there is a pigment index number listed somewhere on the tube, check it. If it says PW6 that is Titanium which is fine. If it is a mixture of PW6 and PW4 that is OK too.
Walcott Fine Art oh alright...its a mixture of PW6/PW4
What is your idea about Vivid white pls.?
I am not familiar with "Vivid White". Do you know who makes it? Thanks for watching!
I've a huge favour to ask .I hope you can help me I've run out of lead white paint. Mabee you can send me some in south Africa. My batch I make is not quite ready.
Thanks for watching! I can't ship out supplies, but try www.dickblick.com Blick ships internationally and you should be able to get it from them.
Hi, any thoughts on Winton “soft mixing white”?
I have not tried that white so I can't really comment on it. Thanks for watching!
...its a good white thats not over powering when used in mixes ( PW6 and PW4 , titanium mixed with zinc ) ...the winton series is the student grade brand of W&N which means not as much pigment as the artist grade series...but when it comes to white oil paint, high pigment doesn't matter as much as in reds, blues, and yellows.
What about Permalba by gamblin ?
Thanks for watching! Permalba is made by Weber, not Gamblin. I have never used it, but some people like it. Gamblin's Titanium White is nice, but I can't recommend their "Flake White Replacement". It yellows too badly. You might want to watch my video on the yellowing of white paints. th-cam.com/video/nW6k-w4Jh24/w-d-xo.html
What about use of egg 🥚
I'm not sure in what way you meant the use of egg? You can use egg tempera as an underpainting for oils, but you would need to let it dry first. I have heard of artists mixing egg yolk with the oil paint itself, but I don't know what the advantages would be to that. Thanks for watching!
@@walcottfineart5088 I’ve seen white paints mixed with egg . Guessing egg white. Id think using the yoke makes it yellow but I could see using that as a warm white,A guy in New York sells it.supposed to be whitest white. Been ten years May just try it.
Pyrrole Rubin, not quinacridone.
isn't lead dangerous as it ages though? old paintings supposedly are releasing lead gases or something.
Thanks for watching! No, not that I know of. Lead does not give off fumes. It is only dangerous if you ingest it.
okay interesting!
@@walcottfineart5088 What happens when you mix it with mineral spirits or turpentine which is a common practise? Does that not release fumes that contain lead white particles too?
@@Frankdarnese No, lead does not give off any fumes or vapors or anything like that. Lead White is quite safe as long as you handle it properly and wash your hands throughly after using it. Thanks for watching!
Your content is informative, to say the least, and well presented. EXCEPT for the inane intro music. This is the only site at which I fell compelled to mute for about 10 seconds. Yuck! You can do much better. If nothing else, silence is golden. There is a LOT of gorgeous music out there which is in the public domain.
Since this video was released, research has shown that zinc white in quite small amounts causes embrittlement of oil paint. The authors of the study in the link below are unsure if any amount of zinc is safe.
www.justpaint.org/zinc-oxide-reviewing-the-research/
Artist's oil paint manufacturers that have a long history and experience still continue to include some zinc oxide in their whites, years after these researches. So, who's right?
Note also that the vast majority of oil paintings at the last 100 years ( or so ) have Titanium/ zinc white in them ...
Lithopone white ( Pw5 ) is an alternative, also. I haven't used it yet, but I' m considering it seriously. There is no much information about it, though..
@@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 I have some linseed oil paint patches with 2:10 Zinc Oxide to Titanium Oxide by weight in refined linseed oil and that's lasted well, as an exterior paint for wood, over four years. For artists paint, you could make some sampled and follow the testing process shown in the article linked in my last comment. The easiest test is for crack resistance on a flexible backing.
@@jauld360 Thanks for responding. By the way, I'm considering the possibility to switch from Titanium/ zinc white ( that I'm mostly using currently ) to lithopone white ( PW5). It's available where I'm living ( I have found PW5 as "opaque white" by Lukas ), but not many people seem to be familiar with it. Do you have any opinion about lithopone?
I'm mostly concerned about several of my works that have thick impasto layers..
@@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 One of the components, zinc sulphide, can darken over time, with exposure to UV. That's taken from Wikipedia. Other than that, I don't know of its other properties.
@@jauld360 I was interested because PW5 is supposed to be somewhere in the middle between Titanium and flake white in terms of tinting strength, opacity, etc.., without the zinc oxide issues or the toxicity of lead whites.
I have heard that this " darkening" that was an issue in the past, has been fixed or improved more recently, but I can't tell for sure..
Anyway, thanks again for the responses.
I was tricked in buying flake white hue when i was ignorant thinking it was flake white which is hard to find at a reasonable price. Its made up of zine and titanium.
Flake white hue from w&n is quite good