Excellent talk, and I'd point out that this doesn't apply only to Farmers and the Slaughterhouses. As a blacksmith, I hear it all the time when I travel around to other craftsmen. Everyone's reduced to either doing it as a hobby, or selling only to the wealthiest they can find. Why? Because all the regulations, requirements, taxes and other red tape make it absolutely impossible to operate a small business. I've had to turn away two young guys in the last year or so. Both were still in grade school, but were looking for something "cool" and a way to earn a few dollars. Sadly, the work just isn't there because everyone's hurting and customers are scarce. Now stop and think about what's going to happen to those young men since they couldn't get some hands-on experience, earn a dollar, and build up their self-confidence. What are they going to do with all their spare time? How will that ripple out in the years ahead? We complain about "all the good jobs are gone", but we don't take care of our small businesses so they can be there to provide good jobs. As Joel notes, he's heard of a thousand small butchers who were run out of business by regulations and all that nonsense. Yep. And I can point to 1000 metalworkers, 1000 cabinet-makers, 1000 tinsmiths, 1000 bodgers..... Each of them could have employed someone and provided much-needed services to their local community. But.... they were run out of business by Local, State, and Federal laws, regulations, taxes, and red tape. That's thousands and thousands of jobs lost not because there's no need for the product, but because we made it somehow magically cheaper to produce those goods on the other side of the globe and then ship them all the way over here. Think about the waste that produces, the oil it burns up, and the opportunities lost at the local level. We can do better, folks!
Man, I wish I could give you 1000 thumbs up, but I can only give you one! People don’t realize that we don’t need the government to protect us. What we need is protection from the government. And we have it. It’s called the Bill of Rights. It’s called the Constitution. But people don’t realize that America today is fundamentally a fascist country by definition! And everything going on in America today is fundamentally unconstitutional. The USDA is unconstitutional. We shouldn’t even need the prime act. If there’s no USDA, our constitutional rights would not be infringe upon, and we wouldn’t need the prime act to give them back to us. Everything the federal government does strips wealth from the people from local communities and gives it to major corporations. You might enjoy the response I gave to a guy further down where he literally is brainwashed to think the prime act would be bad, and that it just gives more power to the big corporations, and and we need these laws to protect our food. it just shows how brainwash these people are. They don’t understand how the interstate highway system destroyed small towns, stripped vast amounts of wealth from local communities, and put it in the hands of major corporations. Same thing with Covid. Creating the interstate highway system and policies around Covid, stripped more wealth and and destroyed more family, businesses and communities than anything in American history. Look at the dustbowl in the 1930s. It was literally created by the USDA and the ridiculous things they were telling farmers. If there’s no USDA there’s no dustbowl. And it was a major contributor to the depression. But then again, the government largely created, and made worse the depression. My God, FDR didn’t end the depression, he made it worse. But this is all part of why they love creating the department of education and nationalizing teachers unions and creating this big prison system. We call public education. It’s how they brainwash children. It’s how they brainwash the culture and the society. People don’t even realize one of the reasons education is failing , besides the government itself is the fact that our entire education system was copied from the German education system in the late 1800s that was designed to make people excellent employees for big factories. The whole thing is a propaganda machine to create robots to be slaves for big corporations. The Democrats love open borders as long as it’s brown people poor brown people they’re not letting Eastern Europeans come here who have tremendous job skills but they’re also anti-communist anti-Socialist white Christians. They’re conservatives. And we are currently living with open borders, but I can give two perfect examples of the federal government trying to throw one white Christian family out of the country and prevent another white Christian family from coming into the country despite the fact that the man’s wife is an American and his children Are American citizens. It’s insane. But me even mentioning these things would get me labeled by these crazy people as a racist. Because they are so freaking brainwashed.
I have a son who would absolutely love to do an internship with a blacksmith. He loves metal working but it's difficult to find internships or apprenticeships for my kids.
@@danachoate5361 The sad thing is, that’s the best way to learn. Hands-on. On the job experience. Electricians. Plumbers. Really all of the skills and trades. Historically that is how you learned and had to work your way up. The trade guilds. And, of course, the vocational education that the school system used to have but the liberals got rid of because of course, every kid should go to college! It’s almost as if they intentionally are trying to destroy this country. Because even stupid incompetent people don’t destroy things that are foundational that have been a part of society for a very long time and that actually work. This is where Jordan Peterson talks about competency, natural hierarchies, Etc. etc. you have to intentionally destroy those things. They don’t disappear they don’t go away by accident. And these things are just as important when it comes to money, finance management, or any other skill. Lawyers and doctors used to not go to med school or law school, but learned working underneath others. Why do people that come from upper middle-class and middle-class families tend to do better than Other people? Now the simplified answer that’s actually often very incorrect. Is that well? They have a Headstart because they have money or resources. But that’s actually not true because unless their parents died and I’m not talking about the very rich and kids with trust funds, kids. Unless their family has died and left them money, they’re not starting out with a bunch of money. But they have learned how to make money. They have learned how to take a little bit of money and make a lot more money. Whereas if you come from a poor family or a lower, middle-class family how can you learn how to make money if nobody around you knows how to make money. And because life is a competition people aren’t giving you that information unless they have a reason to unless you’re part of their family or a friend etc. But these things could be taught in school. But they don’t want to teach you that because the people that control the schools they don’t want you to get out of school and compete against them are their children are their grandchildren. The whole thing is about control. Our education system was modeled after the German system which was created to educate and indoctrinate kids that would become factory workers. Our education system is in many ways a lot like Boot Camp in the military. It is absolutely designed to indoctrinate and create conformity. Otherwise, it would teach critical thinking. It would teach Indep dependent thought. And of course, today it starts in kindergarten whereas before it didn’t start until high school or college. Now it literally starts in kindergarten and gets even worse at the high school level, of course they’re already teaching you about being transgendered in kindergarten and elementary school but then if they get you in college now they really got you. This is why so many families are turning more and more to homesteading and homeschooling. At least in the past the schools were increasingly incompetent, since Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education and nationalized the teachers unions. The Democrats have increasingly made the school system incompetent. But now it has become a full scale indoctrination prison. And the only way around that is to take your kids out and put them in a religious small private school or homeschool them.
I agree with everything you're saying. Find the reason why. Follow the money. "They" don't want us working with our hands & being self-sufficient. "They" want us dependent on them for everything. That is the bigger problem.
Joel is a master of taking these complex issues and breaking them down so we easily understand them. The regenerative farming community owes him the world.
I had a 10 hour round trip this past week to get my hogs to a usda processor so I can sell to my pork customers by the cut. It is ridiculous and dangerous that I have to haul my hogs 350 miles down the interstate to a federal processor when a state inspected facility is less than 5 miles from my farm. Passing the Prime Act would create a more localized sustainable resilient and affordable supply of meats for Americans. The only ppl who don't want the Prime Act passed are named Smithfield and Tyson among a few others, and they have deep pockets and well paid lobbyists who I'm sure are working against it right now.
it is your duty to disobey unjust laws. Farmers need to find ways through the red tape. Major over reach by government. Consumers need to make it easier for farmers to disobey these laws.
@@roddodson9741 Of course food safety is the governments job. Safe food is one of the many things that differentiates 1st world countries from third world countries. If you think businesses will all just do the right thing you live in a fantasy world. I will never understand people that are against regulations that they don't even understand.... *or for Acts that they have never read*
@@bipslone8880 you are free to buy food from government regulated and inspected facilities if you wish, but you have no right to prohibit voluntary exchange and commerce between individuals. Imposing your will forcefully on others is tyranny.
The situation is only going to get worse with the new EPA rule mandating each processor have their own wastewater treatment facility. No longer will they be allowed to utilize municipal treatment facilities. The cost of the new rule will bankrupt all but the largest processors. This is being done "under the radar" and many processors are not even aware this is coming.
A solution, though, might be to capture the blood and non-viable viscera, and compost it for natural fertilizer. So, the water needed is lessened, which may mean they could employ a septic system or something similar.
@@HickoryDickory86 That may work on a very small scale but I can't imagine trying to compost the unusable remains of 10-15 cows a week, much less 50. If the processor has a lot of acreage it may work but most in my area have just enough room for their facility.
@@circlepfarm3776 Maybe the processor could partner with a local co-op that is into regenerative agriculture. I don't know, just brainstorming possible solution.
@@circlepfarm3776Another option for the waste would be employing their children, family and friends or unemployed by branching off with a dog/cat food specialty store. (I'd prefer THAT in my dog's food!) Or selling it to already established dog/cat food plants...or, they could sell it to pig farmers or local zoo's... You know the saying; turn lemons into lemonade! Blessings!
American consumers rely on rigorous USDA inspection to ensure the safety and quality of their meat and poultry. Allowing the meat to enter commerce without inspection - and without alerting consumers they are buying uninspected meat - jeopardizes food safety and will undermine consumer confidence in all meat products.
Either pass the PRIME ACT or legally protect PMA’s & Herd Shares in the state of VA. I am not optimistic any of that will ever happen. I like Joel’s alternative advice: “Don’t worry about the law until you have to”.
Thank you Joe for getting this information to Virginia’s citizens. I have raised hogs in central Va my entire life and given plenty of free rides to hogs headed to the slaughter house for buyer shares over the years. However the trend over the last decade we have focused on maintaining sows and just producing piglets that are sold to growers. We finish less than 40 here a year and make around 500 plus weaned pigs. These pigs are raised and slaughtered at fda facilities and our growers pay a premium for that usda stamp ;this premium is passed along to the buyer. As stated unless you have above average means and freezer space your only choice for pork is at the grocery store. I know during our state of emergency during Covid we were exempt. I gave a lot of meat away but didn’t participate in exempt sales. Big pork is necessary at this time to feed our world. All Virginians despite income should have the choice to buy and consume Virginia meats raised on Virginia crops.
Agreed! As Wyoming farmer, with only a small number of animals available for sale, the current system makes it incredibly difficult for me to do more than raise animals for my own use. I have many requests for beef and goat, but only in small amounts, not the equivalent of a full animal. I'm not allowed to do so. This system is a mess! Prime would help us all.
This is a great summary! Thank you for putting this presentation together. I plan to share this with my Members, so they can gain a better understanding of the situation.
American consumers rely on rigorous USDA inspection to ensure the safety and quality of their meat and poultry. Allowing the meat to enter commerce without inspection - and without alerting consumers they are buying uninspected meat - jeopardizes food safety and will undermine consumer confidence in all meat products.
@@bipslone8880 maybe you didn't hear the part about the meat is still inspected but, on a state level? Maybe you didn't recognize that food safety is not the issue, bloated Federal Government is. If I have 800 dollars right now and I have a freezer I can, right now, purchase a quarter of an animal that is inspected at the state level. It has been that way for decades and the meat is the same meat from the same farm as the one I buy in the grocery store that gets inspected by a Federal inspector. Sounds like a good idea to me. But, maybe you have skin in the Federal Inspections game so you think not. Your argument "without inspection" is invalid here.
@@bipslone8880 Your comment was verbatim of the Big Meat Packers talking points, but I appreciate that you shared your option. You should continue to follow the USDA (Federal Inspection) pathway because it is tailored for you and the general public. As for the rest of us, we prefer to 'opt out' of the USDA (Federal Inspection) pathway and follow a 'direct to consumer' local pathway. It would be free of the unnecessary Federal Inspection provided by the PRIME Act. Between the farmers, butchers, state inspectors, and customers, we are very capable of proper inspections for safe and quality meat via CUSTOM SLAUGHTER. My members are very satisfied with being able to freely inspect every aspect of meat production from birth to freezer. Please stop assuming you know what is best for everyone. Please just worry about yourself.
@@bipslone8880 For reference because it seems you need to read it, the link is www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3835/text It is literally one page and the summary literally says, "This bill expands the exemption of custom slaughtering of animals from federal inspection requirements." It simply removes Federal involvement and places it in the States hands for in State commerce ONLY.
I think the greater point is being ignored. If the farmers never would have given this right up in the first place, we wouldn't have to be fighting to get it back. When people take the position and attitude of indifference and don't go vote these people out of office because you think it wont change things, you get what you get and don't throw a fit. The fact that we now have to fight to get this back is ridiculous. This is the very thing i have been arguing since I started our venturing into "farming". Community. Not just the person across the street, but across state lines. For times just like these. A call to arms at it were. SO we can call on the farmer down the street, across state lines, band together in matters like these. Pitch in when the next guy or gal needs help. And yet, only met with silence by other "homesteaders". We are to blame just as much as the rest. Now is the time, start exchanging numbers, direct emails. Stop hiding behind youtube, fb, instagram and yet another app. Extend your hand to the next. Stronger together than we are apart.
Unfortunately, it's not that the farmers gave up a right, but that they were outnumbered and outvoted by people who are easily misled. We see this same thing all over the place, not just in the farming/ranching sphere. 99% of our small businesses have been run out of business by red tape, taxes, regulations, and all of that is supported by the average uneducated voter. You're right that folks need to get off their duffs and start acting. And part of that is actually getting people into office, training up the next generation to understand these things. We need our people in the media and the school system, allies in every corner of society. Otherwise, we'll always be outnumbered and outgunned by the uneducated.
@@threeriversforge1997 the voters are NEVER outnumbered. They're just brainwashed somehow which I personally will never understand by such unbelievably simpleton salesmanship con artist tactics. How anyone could ever be dumb enough to fall for Fox Entertainment, MSNBC Entertainment, babbling con artist Trump, babbling idiot Biden, all the Q Anuts. The United States is nothing more than a laughingstock compilation of morons and it's simply over. Over. The ship has sunk.
The average person doesn't understand. They only hear the part about keeping meat "safe". So THEY also vote and there are a lot more average ignorant (that doesn't mean stupid) voters than well informed voters that understand how the government rules runs up the price and runs out the small processor.
The Prime ACT would help my farm beef business tremendously. In addition, I wish in Kentucky we could also process and sell our meat chickens directly on the Farm like almost every other state does under a Federal Law that allows it. In KY our Food Safety regulations only allow poultry to be processed in a processing facility of which there are only 2 in the entire state. The Large factory farms have managed to keep small KY farmers out of their industry via over regulating. I have contacted my state rep Josh Bray and he is suppose to introduce legislation to allow on the farm poultry processing. We will see..
Once the facility has been inspected, I wonder if the physical inspection of each carcass by a Federal inspector adds even the tiniest bit of extra safety beyond what the system each facility has in place. I doubt it.
The way I see it wether it is or not how it currently works. If you have meat and I choose to buy it that's on me and if I have eggs and you choose to buy them that's on you. It's not someone else's job to decide what I choose to eat or where I choose to buy it! Glad I'm producing more of my own food each and every year!
Here were I live in Ohio I can already buy individual amounts of an animal at our custom slaughter house. This place i believe has been there for 4 generations. It’s a great asset to our community
In Ontario, Canada it’s illegal to even give away uninspected meat except to immediate family. Immediate family is described as mother or father or child or sibling-not your cousin-not your uncle not even your grandparents or grandchildren.
Pressure canning meat and meals in a jar with meat (chili, stew, etc) could be a way to getting meat in bulk that we don’t have freezer space for. At age 54, I just started canning my own meatballs, chicken thighs, and meals in a jar for my family. It’s amazing & needs to return to average American families & households.
You can't give away custom exempt meat in AZ. Many try to sell under "donations" and the state doesn't buy it. We have state inspections here, but it can be a year out if you want one. Because of all the rules, we now just sell piglets. Would love if these rules get updated to allow adults to be adults.
I agree 100% that this is a great, sensible, practical, workable solution. And that's exactly why I seriously doubt it will be implemented. The government doesn't work that way.
While I agree there should be an option for farmers and customers that supports locals, bills like this are often a front for taking regulations off of large corporations or they are exploited by large corporations (see the PPP for example) and the actual small business owner, customer, and taxpayer suffers. Regulations are often all that keep workers and customers safe from the greed and carelessness of the CEOs and corporations. While money dictates what laws are passed and which laws are not, the rich people will skew all laws in their favor and the average person trying to do okay will get the scraps.
I love the people that say Joel is a Con Man. So crazy. Healthy food is a God given right. Do we need a USDA absolutely, but we should be able to trust our neighbor and I do. I butcher right at home I honestly give meat to my wonderful neighbors.
We do not need the USDA. If you eliminate the USDA local county or state government would regulate food safety. But even in that case you don’t need the government. Because without all of the government interference, there would be a dozen places for you to buy fresh meat. Within a couple of years there would only be 10 because two of them would get a bad reputation and people would stop buying from them. We don’t need government regulations. In reality, some of those meat processes locally would go out of business, but more places would come along, because without all the regulations you create more competition, which is good for the customer. It would create a local food system where everyone would benefit. And the market, the market being the people. The marketplace of ideas. The marketplace of consumers would regulate everything. The businesses that are fair and honest and treat their customers well will thrive, and the ones that are greedy and don’t provide a quality product would fail. That’s how it’s supposed to be. You don’t need a federal government. The constitution only gave the federal government limited powers. Over 90% of the federal laws are unconstitutional. The USDA is completely unconstitutional and has criminalized your constitutional rights. If there was no USDA, we would not need the prime act. Have you ever heard of the dust bowl? Back in the 1930s the dust bowl? The USDA in large part created the dust bowl. Go watch the documentary about the dust bowl from Ken Burns because he explains it really well. It’s one of the most impactful events in American history. And it would not have happened without the USDA. It was part of the depression, which by the way the government created and made worse as well.
@@tad2269 I agree with everything you wrote, except for one thing. The USDA/government absolutely did cause the dust bowl. They were the ones that promoted that type of farming in that area which never should’ve happened. They were the ones that kept pushing farmers to grow more as well as then eventually price fixing, etc. etc. The government absolutely did cause the dustbowl. Watch Ken Burns documentary about the dust bowl. He talks about it. The government absolutely caused that to happen. And I know who Gabe Brown is very well as well as all of his partners, because I have been following those guys for years. One of his partners is from right here in South Carolina.
Great solution. Problem,Corporate strangle hold on the meat industry. Cargill and other corporations won’t let congress ( which they own) pass any law or regulation that effects there profits. I have bought a live pig, best meat I and my family have ever had, worked with a guy who’s family farmed. His daughters were in four H, and raised two pigs they showed at the country fair. I was lucky enough to buy one. Joel is right it’s expenses and you need a freezer large enough to keep it frozen till you eat it all. I have heard of families going together and buying a half of less and they split cost between each other.
How about Joel just takes the position of Director of Agricultural for the U.S.A. I think we would ALL be better!! Love ya Joel! Thank you Sur for what you do for us small farmers!!
Where can we buy the hides (leather products,shoes, jackets,et cetera)? Do you use every piece as our ancestors did? What about tallow? Bone stocks? I am curious. Thank you.
I partnered in a custom slaughter operation for a few years in OK. Our reputation was our livelihood, and we would see our customers around town. I can guarantee that people got a much better, much cleaner product than they got at a grocery store.
We have room to put three times the amount of animals in our farm than we can sell by meat shares. Our meat sells out in line while the animals are still in the field. If it weren’t for onerous regulations we could provide pasture raised meats, by the cut, to our customers. Couples and small families are still interested in high quality meat but won’t buy a quarter share. We are a small family operation and use a USDA local abattoir. This bill could make or break us as providers of local, pasture raised meats. Will share.
My father was a farmer, worked for the USDA, and taught agriculture at the U of Minnesota. As a former "farm girl," I have some questions. I am an animal rights advocate who has no agenda concerning how I choose to eat and how your listeners choose to eat. I don't live under a rock and am well aware people will continue to eat meat. If I understand your message correctly, it means that livestock could be saved from having to be transported hundreds of miles to a large processing facility and could, instead, be processed on the farm of origin or in a more local facility. I was not aware of why this facet of meat harvesting continues, and I thank you for clarifying this. Please correct me if my understanding of the situation is incorrect. Local slaughter and meat processing was how it was commonly done in the sixties, as I remember. If this is the case, I would be willing to support farmers in doing this. Transportation over the course of several hours is hard on livestock, and, from my observations, inhumane. My question would be, who would oversee or insure that processing at local facilities would be carried out in a humane and safe fashion? Dr. Temple Grandin's slaughterhouse designs have made a huge difference in the animal's experience immediately prior to slaughter, but these innovations in the large slaughterhouse's do nothing to offset what the animal endures during lengthy transportation. Thank you for your time.
Joe if you'll build yourself a free-form Adobe Garden Wall you can put those 5 gallon buckets directly in the wall as your building it and when you pull it out it makes a chicken nest form.
The prime act has been stuck in the "agricultural subcomittee" since it was deferred to them in July. If you support this you should call your congressman to bring this bill to their attention.
I have a sheepfarm in Catalonia Spain . You have to bring your lambs to an abatoir but then you do what you want ! If you wanna sell 4 lambribs to the local butcher or groceriestore there,s no problem . Because there is an official vet in the abbatoir .
WE NEED NEW LEADERSHIP AT THE USDA, AMONG ALL OTHER 3 AND 4 LETTER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. I SO WISH JOEL WAS IN CHARGE OF ALL THE AG STUFF. WE MUST DECENTRALIZE. THANK YOU, THOMAS MASSIE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE NEED RFK JR FOR POTUS .
The more simple the food chain ,the less reguation required -because you know the farmer and you know abatoir,on farm .. but if you the customer doesn't know exactly who your dealing with ,you start to see why regs are there,
mega processors are going to fight this like crazy! I pray for this to pass all over the USA. Power to process never, never, never should have been moved away from the local level.
It’s all about the money. The ever growing, self perpetuating bureaucracy always protects its own self interest. That’s why they tried to put the Amish in prison for selling meat.
Don't get me wrong I'm all about cutting out government but when the market opens up to more demand the price will go up and possibly surpass the store options through marketing of the locally grown operating systems
You do make some valid points. As a consumer of meat products I trust the meat I am buying is good meat. If I was lucky enough to have a local farm near me that I could trust enough to buy the meat this would be fantastic. You argument is entirely based around trust. We have proven time and time again that once you remove regulations when it comes to profits, usually the larger companies (not small farmers) will no longer follow the health and safety standards. If this Prime Act only effect small farmers vs Mega Farms that would be good. In this Prime Act it doesn't do that. It applies to all farms in that State. In MT they grow and slaughter a lot of cattle. In order for them to sell all of that beef it will have to leave the state. What would stop them from knowingly putting "Healthy" cattle into the line that goes out of state and needs to be inspected. Vs "Unhealthy" cattle into the uninspected line to be sold within the State? Can you trust a business who's #1 priority to make a profit over everything not to do shady shit like this? Comes back to Trust. I would say no you can not Trust them.
You don't have to trust them. If any of those local sales made someone sick, word would get out (locally) pretty quickly and that person would be out of business. Furthermore, they would have to face the people they sickened, unlike some random processing plant manager halfway across the country. Do you see that adults can regulate themselves pretty well, without the gov. holding our hand?
I understand and agree with health concerns, no one wants a outbreak of disease, least the farmer. But some common sense please. To be able to sell meat to neighbors in cooperation with vets should be a staple around the world.
to be clear an 1/8 of a cow is still sold in cuts. in fact you can typically choose how you would like your meat cut, into steaks or roasts or ground etc. You just have to buy all 160lbs at once. that's why it's so silly that the farmer can't go sell the cuts, only the 1/8s.
We are lucky that we can purchase a cow thru a butcher in KY and have a freeze to put it in. This saves us over hundreds of dollars for beef every year. We some times do a split with friends but when we can't find some one to split with we have to count on our butcher to find us a small animal so we can fit it in our freezer. This year we really had to search out every nook and cranny to fit that beef into two refrigerators and our freezer. Please change the system so the people with less money can reap the benefits.
I've been opposed a long time to regulations, in the name of public safety, that prop up a select few and crushes the small guy. That imo is elitist and definitely infringes on liberty. I should be able to buy what I want as long as it doesn't affect anybody else. Whatever consequences of my purchase, should be delegated to only myself.
I don't believe it would. The butchers would still be required to follow all State and local regulations. It would just cut out the Feds as a middleman. And I think it would make food more available and more affordable for the American public.
I think the real purpose of the regulations is to assure far off big cities, where salaries are higher, more access to food grown in rural areas. Just think how well rural areas would eat and live without the onerous regulations designed for over populated cities and the factory farming they depend on
There's so much more going into our current food stability that the left wants to regulate (trucking, fuel, feed, processing, as you said, etc). I agree with inspections, but only to the extent that you know what you're getting and there's no worms or virus that wouldn't be killed by cooking to the appropriate temp (namely for pigs and fowl).
I hope he phrased it NOT as government is now allowing us to do something, and instead prohibiting the government from regulating "custom" and striking down the regulations.
Regulations are good. We just need a system that works for the people and businesses. Helps them operate legally instead of pricing them out of business. But the rules are usually created by the rich for the rich.
How about if the usda would start teaching meat inspection to slaughterhouse and butcher shop workers and lower that cost of inspection? Young people could learn how to slaughter and cut meat and how to inspect the meat. Im for inspection, but there are very few inspectors!! So few infact, slaughterhouses had to close up and safety standards got so high, the meat market or slaughterhouse stopped offering inspection as a service, and they sell only prepackaged meat over the counter!! The big boys want it all. When are they going to make vacuum packaging a mandatory requirement?? A farmer should be able to raise any type of livestock,inspect the meat, and sell it directly to consumers in the meat market the farmer operates! He can do it all !! If i have to trust anyone, i would trust the farmer, they want the best quality of meat at a fair price, thats why people buy from them!! 😊
Modern science teaches me that turning a bull calf into a steer means it can get pregnant. Why aren't any of my steers pregnant?!? And my roosters who identify as hens still aren't laying! Help!
100%! As an idaho rancher, we need to get back to basics and get rid of the bureaucracy!
Excellent talk, and I'd point out that this doesn't apply only to Farmers and the Slaughterhouses. As a blacksmith, I hear it all the time when I travel around to other craftsmen. Everyone's reduced to either doing it as a hobby, or selling only to the wealthiest they can find. Why? Because all the regulations, requirements, taxes and other red tape make it absolutely impossible to operate a small business. I've had to turn away two young guys in the last year or so. Both were still in grade school, but were looking for something "cool" and a way to earn a few dollars. Sadly, the work just isn't there because everyone's hurting and customers are scarce. Now stop and think about what's going to happen to those young men since they couldn't get some hands-on experience, earn a dollar, and build up their self-confidence. What are they going to do with all their spare time? How will that ripple out in the years ahead? We complain about "all the good jobs are gone", but we don't take care of our small businesses so they can be there to provide good jobs. As Joel notes, he's heard of a thousand small butchers who were run out of business by regulations and all that nonsense. Yep. And I can point to 1000 metalworkers, 1000 cabinet-makers, 1000 tinsmiths, 1000 bodgers..... Each of them could have employed someone and provided much-needed services to their local community. But.... they were run out of business by Local, State, and Federal laws, regulations, taxes, and red tape. That's thousands and thousands of jobs lost not because there's no need for the product, but because we made it somehow magically cheaper to produce those goods on the other side of the globe and then ship them all the way over here. Think about the waste that produces, the oil it burns up, and the opportunities lost at the local level. We can do better, folks!
Man, I wish I could give you 1000 thumbs up, but I can only give you one!
People don’t realize that we don’t need the government to protect us. What we need is protection from the government. And we have it. It’s called the Bill of Rights. It’s called the Constitution. But people don’t realize that America today is fundamentally a fascist country by definition! And everything going on in America today is fundamentally unconstitutional. The USDA is unconstitutional. We shouldn’t even need the prime act. If there’s no USDA, our constitutional rights would not be infringe upon, and we wouldn’t need the prime act to give them back to us. Everything the federal government does strips wealth from the people from local communities and gives it to major corporations. You might enjoy the response I gave to a guy further down where he literally is brainwashed to think the prime act would be bad, and that it just gives more power to the big corporations, and and we need these laws to protect our food. it just shows how brainwash these people are.
They don’t understand how the interstate highway system destroyed small towns, stripped vast amounts of wealth from local communities, and put it in the hands of major corporations. Same thing with Covid. Creating the interstate highway system and policies around Covid, stripped more wealth and and destroyed more family, businesses and communities than anything in American history. Look at the dustbowl in the 1930s. It was literally created by the USDA and the ridiculous things they were telling farmers. If there’s no USDA there’s no dustbowl. And it was a major contributor to the depression. But then again, the government largely created, and made worse the depression. My God, FDR didn’t end the depression, he made it worse.
But this is all part of why they love creating the department of education and nationalizing teachers unions and creating this big prison system. We call public education. It’s how they brainwash children. It’s how they brainwash the culture and the society. People don’t even realize one of the reasons education is failing , besides the government itself is the fact that our entire education system was copied from the German education system in the late 1800s that was designed to make people excellent employees for big factories. The whole thing is a propaganda machine to create robots to be slaves for big corporations.
The Democrats love open borders as long as it’s brown people poor brown people they’re not letting Eastern Europeans come here who have tremendous job skills but they’re also anti-communist anti-Socialist white Christians. They’re conservatives. And we are currently living with open borders, but I can give two perfect examples of the federal government trying to throw one white Christian family out of the country and prevent another white Christian family from coming into the country despite the fact that the man’s wife is an American and his children Are American citizens. It’s insane. But me even mentioning these things would get me labeled by these crazy people as a racist. Because they are so freaking brainwashed.
I have a son who would absolutely love to do an internship with a blacksmith. He loves metal working but it's difficult to find internships or apprenticeships for my kids.
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The sad thing is, that’s the best way to learn. Hands-on. On the job experience. Electricians. Plumbers. Really all of the skills and trades. Historically that is how you learned and had to work your way up. The trade guilds. And, of course, the vocational education that the school system used to have but the liberals got rid of because of course, every kid should go to college! It’s almost as if they intentionally are trying to destroy this country. Because even stupid incompetent people don’t destroy things that are foundational that have been a part of society for a very long time and that actually work. This is where Jordan Peterson talks about competency, natural hierarchies, Etc. etc. you have to intentionally destroy those things. They don’t disappear they don’t go away by accident. And these things are just as important when it comes to money, finance management, or any other skill. Lawyers and doctors used to not go to med school or law school, but learned working underneath others. Why do people that come from upper middle-class and middle-class families tend to do better than Other people? Now the simplified answer that’s actually often very incorrect. Is that well? They have a Headstart because they have money or resources. But that’s actually not true because unless their parents died and I’m not talking about the very rich and kids with trust funds, kids. Unless their family has died and left them money, they’re not starting out with a bunch of money. But they have learned how to make money. They have learned how to take a little bit of money and make a lot more money. Whereas if you come from a poor family or a lower, middle-class family how can you learn how to make money if nobody around you knows how to make money. And because life is a competition people aren’t giving you that information unless they have a reason to unless you’re part of their family or a friend etc. But these things could be taught in school. But they don’t want to teach you that because the people that control the schools they don’t want you to get out of school and compete against them are their children are their grandchildren. The whole thing is about control. Our education system was modeled after the German system which was created to educate and indoctrinate kids that would become factory workers. Our education system is in many ways a lot like Boot Camp in the military. It is absolutely designed to indoctrinate and create conformity. Otherwise, it would teach critical thinking. It would teach Indep dependent thought. And of course, today it starts in kindergarten whereas before it didn’t start until high school or college. Now it literally starts in kindergarten and gets even worse at the high school level, of course they’re already teaching you about being transgendered in kindergarten and elementary school but then if they get you in college now they really got you. This is why so many families are turning more and more to homesteading and homeschooling. At least in the past the schools were increasingly incompetent, since Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education and nationalized the teachers unions. The Democrats have increasingly made the school system incompetent. But now it has become a full scale indoctrination prison. And the only way around that is to take your kids out and put them in a religious small private school or homeschool them.
And the PRO Act ( not to be confused with the Prime Act) would make these problems much worse if it every passes. Prime👍 Pro👎
I agree with everything you're saying. Find the reason why. Follow the money. "They" don't want us working with our hands & being self-sufficient. "They" want us dependent on them for everything. That is the bigger problem.
Joel is a master of taking these complex issues and breaking them down so we easily understand them. The regenerative farming community owes him the world.
I had a 10 hour round trip this past week to get my hogs to a usda processor so I can sell to my pork customers by the cut. It is ridiculous and dangerous that I have to haul my hogs 350 miles down the interstate to a federal processor when a state inspected facility is less than 5 miles from my farm. Passing the Prime Act would create a more localized sustainable resilient and affordable supply of meats for Americans. The only ppl who don't want the Prime Act passed are named Smithfield and Tyson among a few others, and they have deep pockets and well paid lobbyists who I'm sure are working against it right now.
it is your duty to disobey unjust laws. Farmers need to find ways through the red tape. Major over reach by government. Consumers need to make it easier for farmers to disobey these laws.
Absolutely correct sir. I now sell are hogs to private customers. If I have to haul it to processor I charge for that 2.
Thank you Joel for your dedication to our freedom !
I’m always proud to vote for Thomas Massie , Comer and Paul!
Imagine that, treating grown ups like grown ups and letting them buy meat from who they want in the amount they want. Sounds like freedom
There are reasons for regulations. The counter to freedom is safety
It's not the government's job
@@roddodson9741 Of course food safety is the governments job. Safe food is one of the many things that differentiates 1st world countries from third world countries. If you think businesses will all just do the right thing you live in a fantasy world. I will never understand people that are against regulations that they don't even understand.... *or for Acts that they have never read*
@@bipslone8880 you are free to buy food from government regulated and inspected facilities if you wish, but you have no right to prohibit voluntary exchange and commerce between individuals. Imposing your will forcefully on others is tyranny.
@@bipslone8880 you must work for Tyson
PASS THE PRIME ACT!
The situation is only going to get worse with the new EPA rule mandating each processor have their own wastewater treatment facility. No longer will they be allowed to utilize municipal treatment facilities. The cost of the new rule will bankrupt all but the largest processors. This is being done "under the radar" and many processors are not even aware this is coming.
A solution, though, might be to capture the blood and non-viable viscera, and compost it for natural fertilizer. So, the water needed is lessened, which may mean they could employ a septic system or something similar.
@@HickoryDickory86 That may work on a very small scale but I can't imagine trying to compost the unusable remains of 10-15 cows a week, much less 50. If the processor has a lot of acreage it may work but most in my area have just enough room for their facility.
@@circlepfarm3776 Maybe the processor could partner with a local co-op that is into regenerative agriculture. I don't know, just brainstorming possible solution.
U will own nothing and be happy.
@@circlepfarm3776Another option for the waste would be employing their children, family and friends or unemployed by branching off with a dog/cat food specialty store. (I'd prefer THAT in my dog's food!) Or selling it to already established dog/cat food plants...or, they could sell it to pig farmers or local zoo's... You know the saying; turn lemons into lemonade! Blessings!
Genius. Thank you for explaining it so we can understand!
American consumers rely on rigorous USDA inspection to ensure the safety and quality of their meat and poultry. Allowing the meat to enter commerce without inspection - and without alerting consumers they are buying uninspected meat - jeopardizes food safety and will undermine consumer confidence in all meat products.
Either pass the PRIME ACT or legally protect PMA’s & Herd Shares in the state of VA. I am not optimistic any of that will ever happen. I like Joel’s alternative advice: “Don’t worry about the law until you have to”.
Thank you Joe for getting this information to Virginia’s citizens. I have raised hogs in central Va my entire life and given plenty of free rides to hogs headed to the slaughter house for buyer shares over the years. However the trend over the last decade we have focused on maintaining sows and just producing piglets that are sold to growers. We finish less than 40 here a year and make around 500 plus weaned pigs. These pigs are raised and slaughtered at fda facilities and our growers pay a premium for that usda stamp ;this premium is passed along to the buyer. As stated unless you have above average means and freezer space your only choice for pork is at the grocery store. I know during our state of emergency during Covid we were exempt. I gave a lot of meat away but didn’t participate in exempt sales. Big pork is necessary at this time to feed our world. All Virginians despite income should have the choice to buy and consume Virginia meats raised on Virginia crops.
Thank you, Sir, for all you do!
Agreed! As Wyoming farmer, with only a small number of animals available for sale, the current system makes it incredibly difficult for me to do more than raise animals for my own use. I have many requests for beef and goat, but only in small amounts, not the equivalent of a full animal. I'm not allowed to do so. This system is a mess! Prime would help us all.
Gotta be grateful to have folks like Massey in office. One of the very few who can be called decent.
So much respect
This is a great summary! Thank you for putting this presentation together. I plan to share this with my Members, so they can gain a better understanding of the situation.
American consumers rely on rigorous USDA inspection to ensure the safety and quality of their meat and poultry. Allowing the meat to enter commerce without inspection - and without alerting consumers they are buying uninspected meat - jeopardizes food safety and will undermine consumer confidence in all meat products.
@@bipslone8880 maybe you didn't hear the part about the meat is still inspected but, on a state level? Maybe you didn't recognize that food safety is not the issue, bloated Federal Government is. If I have 800 dollars right now and I have a freezer I can, right now, purchase a quarter of an animal that is inspected at the state level. It has been that way for decades and the meat is the same meat from the same farm as the one I buy in the grocery store that gets inspected by a Federal inspector. Sounds like a good idea to me. But, maybe you have skin in the Federal Inspections game so you think not. Your argument "without inspection" is invalid here.
@@cramersbackyard9634 Did you read the Act or just listen to a biased opinion?
@@bipslone8880 Your comment was verbatim of the Big Meat Packers talking points, but I appreciate that you shared your option.
You should continue to follow the USDA (Federal Inspection) pathway because it is tailored for you and the general public.
As for the rest of us, we prefer to 'opt out' of the USDA (Federal Inspection) pathway and follow a 'direct to consumer' local pathway. It would be free of the unnecessary Federal Inspection provided by the PRIME Act.
Between the farmers, butchers, state inspectors, and customers, we are very capable of proper inspections for safe and quality meat via CUSTOM SLAUGHTER. My members are very satisfied with being able to freely inspect every aspect of meat production from birth to freezer.
Please stop assuming you know what is best for everyone. Please just worry about yourself.
@@bipslone8880 For reference because it seems you need to read it, the link is www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3835/text
It is literally one page and the summary literally says, "This bill expands the exemption of custom slaughtering of animals from federal inspection requirements."
It simply removes Federal involvement and places it in the States hands for in State commerce ONLY.
I think the greater point is being ignored. If the farmers never would have given this right up in the first place, we wouldn't have to be fighting to get it back. When people take the position and attitude of indifference and don't go vote these people out of office because you think it wont change things, you get what you get and don't throw a fit. The fact that we now have to fight to get this back is ridiculous. This is the very thing i have been arguing since I started our venturing into "farming". Community. Not just the person across the street, but across state lines. For times just like these. A call to arms at it were. SO we can call on the farmer down the street, across state lines, band together in matters like these. Pitch in when the next guy or gal needs help. And yet, only met with silence by other "homesteaders". We are to blame just as much as the rest. Now is the time, start exchanging numbers, direct emails. Stop hiding behind youtube, fb, instagram and yet another app. Extend your hand to the next. Stronger together than we are apart.
Never happen. Merica is too susceptible to cheap 2 bit con artists. This country is GONE and farmers are an enormous reason why.
Unfortunately, it's not that the farmers gave up a right, but that they were outnumbered and outvoted by people who are easily misled. We see this same thing all over the place, not just in the farming/ranching sphere. 99% of our small businesses have been run out of business by red tape, taxes, regulations, and all of that is supported by the average uneducated voter.
You're right that folks need to get off their duffs and start acting. And part of that is actually getting people into office, training up the next generation to understand these things. We need our people in the media and the school system, allies in every corner of society. Otherwise, we'll always be outnumbered and outgunned by the uneducated.
@@threeriversforge1997 the voters are NEVER outnumbered. They're just brainwashed somehow which I personally will never understand by such unbelievably simpleton salesmanship con artist tactics. How anyone could ever be dumb enough to fall for Fox Entertainment, MSNBC Entertainment, babbling con artist Trump, babbling idiot Biden, all the Q Anuts. The United States is nothing more than a laughingstock compilation of morons and it's simply over. Over. The ship has sunk.
The average person doesn't understand. They only hear the part about keeping meat "safe". So THEY also vote and there are a lot more average ignorant (that doesn't mean stupid) voters than well informed voters that understand how the government rules runs up the price and runs out the small processor.
He’s the perfect spokesperson for Local food.
The Prime ACT would help my farm beef business tremendously. In addition, I wish in Kentucky we could also process and sell our meat chickens directly on the Farm like almost every other state does under a Federal Law that allows it. In KY our Food Safety regulations only allow poultry to be processed in a processing facility of which there are only 2 in the entire state. The Large factory farms have managed to keep small KY farmers out of their industry via over regulating. I have contacted my state rep Josh Bray and he is suppose to introduce legislation to allow on the farm poultry processing. We will see..
Once the facility has been inspected, I wonder if the physical inspection of each carcass by a Federal inspector adds even the tiniest bit of extra safety beyond what the system each facility has in place. I doubt it.
The way I see it wether it is or not how it currently works. If you have meat and I choose to buy it that's on me and if I have eggs and you choose to buy them that's on you. It's not someone else's job to decide what I choose to eat or where I choose to buy it! Glad I'm producing more of my own food each and every year!
Here were I live in Ohio I can already buy individual amounts of an animal at our custom slaughter house. This place i believe has been there for 4 generations. It’s a great asset to our community
In Ontario, Canada it’s illegal to even give away uninspected meat except to immediate family. Immediate family is described as mother or father or child or sibling-not your cousin-not your uncle not even your grandparents or grandchildren.
Canada has become a totalitarian 💩hole.
Government bureaucracy and regulations are a nighmare.
The USDA should be an advisory role only.
Pressure canning meat and meals in a jar with meat (chili, stew, etc) could be a way to getting meat in bulk that we don’t have freezer space for. At age 54, I just started canning my own meatballs, chicken thighs, and meals in a jar for my family. It’s amazing & needs to return to average American families & households.
That’s my congressman! Let’s go!
Joel, ON POINT!🎉
You can't give away custom exempt meat in AZ. Many try to sell under "donations" and the state doesn't buy it. We have state inspections here, but it can be a year out if you want one. Because of all the rules, we now just sell piglets. Would love if these rules get updated to allow adults to be adults.
Joel u got a great point this coming from a fellow farmer I hope they pass it
I agree 100% that this is a great, sensible, practical, workable solution. And that's exactly why I seriously doubt it will be implemented. The government doesn't work that way.
While I agree there should be an option for farmers and customers that supports locals, bills like this are often a front for taking regulations off of large corporations or they are exploited by large corporations (see the PPP for example) and the actual small business owner, customer, and taxpayer suffers. Regulations are often all that keep workers and customers safe from the greed and carelessness of the CEOs and corporations. While money dictates what laws are passed and which laws are not, the rich people will skew all laws in their favor and the average person trying to do okay will get the scraps.
Glad you voiced what I have been saying for years 😇
The sad thing is that, at least around here, the custom shops charge just as much as the inspected shops.
Gone are the days that people consider passing saving to the customer.
Let us do what we want!!!
I love the people that say Joel is a Con Man. So crazy. Healthy food is a God given right. Do we need a USDA absolutely, but we should be able to trust our neighbor and I do. I butcher right at home I honestly give meat to my wonderful neighbors.
We do not need the USDA. If you eliminate the USDA local county or state government would regulate food safety. But even in that case you don’t need the government. Because without all of the government interference, there would be a dozen places for you to buy fresh meat. Within a couple of years there would only be 10 because two of them would get a bad reputation and people would stop buying from them. We don’t need government regulations.
In reality, some of those meat processes locally would go out of business, but more places would come along, because without all the regulations you create more competition, which is good for the customer. It would create a local food system where everyone would benefit. And the market, the market being the people. The marketplace of ideas. The marketplace of consumers would regulate everything. The businesses that are fair and honest and treat their customers well will thrive, and the ones that are greedy and don’t provide a quality product would fail. That’s how it’s supposed to be.
You don’t need a federal government. The constitution only gave the federal government limited powers. Over 90% of the federal laws are unconstitutional.
The USDA is completely unconstitutional and has criminalized your constitutional rights. If there was no USDA, we would not need the prime act.
Have you ever heard of the dust bowl? Back in the 1930s the dust bowl? The USDA in large part created the dust bowl. Go watch the documentary about the dust bowl from Ken Burns because he explains it really well. It’s one of the most impactful events in American history. And it would not have happened without the USDA. It was part of the depression, which by the way the government created and made worse as well.
@@nedhill1242agreed!
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I agree with everything you wrote, except for one thing. The USDA/government absolutely did cause the dust bowl. They were the ones that promoted that type of farming in that area which never should’ve happened. They were the ones that kept pushing farmers to grow more as well as then eventually price fixing, etc. etc. The government absolutely did cause the dustbowl. Watch Ken Burns documentary about the dust bowl. He talks about it. The government absolutely caused that to happen.
And I know who Gabe Brown is very well as well as all of his partners, because I have been following those guys for years. One of his partners is from right here in South Carolina.
Great solution. Problem,Corporate strangle hold on the meat industry. Cargill and other corporations won’t let congress ( which they own) pass any law or regulation that effects there profits. I have bought a live pig, best meat I and my family have ever had, worked with a guy who’s family farmed. His daughters were in four H, and raised two pigs they showed at the country fair. I was lucky enough to buy one. Joel is right it’s expenses and you need a freezer large enough to keep it frozen till you eat it all. I have heard of families going together and buying a half of less and they split cost between each other.
First comment I read that mentioned what real problem is. Not regulations or small town farmers but corporates interest in politics
How about Joel just takes the position of Director of Agricultural for the U.S.A. I think we would ALL be better!! Love ya Joel! Thank you Sur for what you do for us small farmers!!
Where can we buy the hides (leather products,shoes, jackets,et cetera)? Do you use every piece as our ancestors did? What about tallow? Bone stocks? I am curious. Thank you.
Can u send me the back office set up on how u Tract and organize whole cows to be individualized per consumer based on cut....😮
I partnered in a custom slaughter operation for a few years in OK. Our reputation was our livelihood, and we would see our customers around town. I can guarantee that people got a much better, much cleaner product than they got at a grocery store.
We have room to put three times the amount of animals in our farm than we can sell by meat shares. Our meat sells out in line while the animals are still in the field. If it weren’t for onerous regulations we could provide pasture raised meats, by the cut, to our customers. Couples and small families are still interested in high quality meat but won’t buy a quarter share. We are a small family operation and use a USDA local abattoir. This bill could make or break us as providers of local, pasture raised meats. Will share.
Thanks Joel
This is how Free People do it.
Thank you
Just the fact that it has to take so long to get such a simple act to pass screams sometingwong!
Anyone else notice that Taylor waterstove? 0:03
So as John Q Public, where do I find one of these smaller processors? Assuming I can afford and have the space for half a beef, how do I buy one?
My father was a farmer, worked for the USDA, and taught agriculture at the U of Minnesota. As a former "farm girl," I have some questions. I am an animal rights advocate who has no agenda concerning how I choose to eat and how your listeners choose to eat. I don't live under a rock and am well aware people will continue to eat meat. If I understand your message correctly, it means that livestock could be saved from having to be transported hundreds of miles to a large processing facility and could, instead, be processed on the farm of origin or in a more local facility. I was not aware of why this facet of meat harvesting continues, and I thank you for clarifying this. Please correct me if my understanding of the situation is incorrect. Local slaughter and meat processing was how it was commonly done in the sixties, as I remember. If this is the case, I would be willing to support farmers in doing this. Transportation over the course of several hours is hard on livestock, and, from my observations, inhumane. My question would be, who would oversee or insure that processing at local facilities would be carried out in a humane and safe fashion? Dr. Temple Grandin's slaughterhouse designs have made a huge difference in the animal's experience immediately prior to slaughter, but these innovations in the large slaughterhouse's do nothing to offset what the animal endures during lengthy transportation. Thank you for your time.
Joe if you'll build yourself a free-form Adobe Garden Wall you can put those 5 gallon buckets directly in the wall as your building it and when you pull it out it makes a chicken nest form.
The prime act has been stuck in the "agricultural subcomittee" since it was deferred to them in July. If you support this you should call your congressman to bring this bill to their attention.
Any farm down here in california
I have a sheepfarm in Catalonia Spain . You have to bring your lambs to an abatoir but then you do what you want ! If you wanna sell 4 lambribs to the local butcher or groceriestore there,s no problem . Because there is an official vet in the abbatoir .
What's a farmer to do that unfortunately has a farm in New York that has done away with state inspection?
WE NEED NEW LEADERSHIP AT THE USDA, AMONG ALL OTHER 3 AND 4 LETTER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. I SO WISH JOEL WAS IN CHARGE OF ALL THE AG STUFF. WE MUST DECENTRALIZE. THANK YOU, THOMAS MASSIE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE NEED RFK JR FOR POTUS .
The more simple the food chain ,the less reguation required -because you know the farmer and you know abatoir,on farm .. but if you the customer doesn't know exactly who your dealing with ,you start to see why regs are there,
How much meat is processed as Custom vs the total meat processed in this country?
mega processors are going to fight this like crazy! I pray for this to pass all over the USA. Power to process never, never, never should have been moved away from the local level.
AMEN!!
How do we put our support behind the prime act?
Call your congressman and tell them to support it.
It’s all about the money. The ever growing, self perpetuating bureaucracy always protects its own self interest. That’s why they tried to put the Amish in prison for selling meat.
Don't get me wrong I'm all about cutting out government but when the market opens up to more demand the price will go up and possibly surpass the store options through marketing of the locally grown operating systems
You do make some valid points. As a consumer of meat products I trust the meat I am buying is good meat. If I was lucky enough to have a local farm near me that I could trust enough to buy the meat this would be fantastic. You argument is entirely based around trust. We have proven time and time again that once you remove regulations when it comes to profits, usually the larger companies (not small farmers) will no longer follow the health and safety standards.
If this Prime Act only effect small farmers vs Mega Farms that would be good. In this Prime Act it doesn't do that. It applies to all farms in that State. In MT they grow and slaughter a lot of cattle. In order for them to sell all of that beef it will have to leave the state. What would stop them from knowingly putting "Healthy" cattle into the line that goes out of state and needs to be inspected. Vs "Unhealthy" cattle into the uninspected line to be sold within the State? Can you trust a business who's #1 priority to make a profit over everything not to do shady shit like this? Comes back to Trust. I would say no you can not Trust them.
You don't have to trust them. If any of those local sales made someone sick, word would get out (locally) pretty quickly and that person would be out of business. Furthermore, they would have to face the people they sickened, unlike some random processing plant manager halfway across the country. Do you see that adults can regulate themselves pretty well, without the gov. holding our hand?
That’s a good idea. I hope it goes through for the people that can’t afford food as it is every dime helps.
Joel for Head of us dpt. Of agriculture
Same manure different color! Government ruins everything it touches. Joel we need you to keep it real! God Bless
great idea. custom cuts outside of regulation for local sales. that's common sense freedom based legislation.
Do inspectors see the cattle while alive? Would custom butchering increase the spread of BSE?
Would this come to include wild game that was harvested such as deer if so it might make people do a lot better job managing local herds
I understand and agree with health concerns, no one wants a outbreak of disease, least the farmer. But some common sense please. To be able to sell meat to neighbors in cooperation with vets should be a staple around the world.
Amen. Been looking for a red meat exemption for a long time.
to be clear an 1/8 of a cow is still sold in cuts. in fact you can typically choose how you would like your meat cut, into steaks or roasts or ground etc. You just have to buy all 160lbs at once. that's why it's so silly that the farmer can't go sell the cuts, only the 1/8s.
Absolutly right
We are lucky that we can purchase a cow thru a butcher in KY and have a freeze to put it in. This saves us over hundreds of dollars for beef every year. We some times do a split with friends but when we can't find some one to split with we have to count on our butcher to find us a small animal so we can fit it in our freezer. This year we really had to search out every nook and cranny to fit that beef into two refrigerators and our freezer. Please change the system so the people with less money can reap the benefits.
*Upton Sinclair enters the chat*
I've been opposed a long time to regulations, in the name of public safety, that prop up a select few and crushes the small guy. That imo is elitist and definitely infringes on liberty. I should be able to buy what I want as long as it doesn't affect anybody else. Whatever consequences of my purchase, should be delegated to only myself.
This is the answer to food deserts.
So what’s going on with this bill. It’s been introduced since April and nothing new.
I can see that corporate slaughterhouses will be bribing, I mean “contributing” to candidates who are opposed to freedom of choice in this matter.
Would the prime act supersede state regulations?
I don't believe it would. The butchers would still be required to follow all State and local regulations. It would just cut out the Feds as a middleman. And I think it would make food more available and more affordable for the American public.
I think the real purpose of the regulations is to assure far off big cities, where salaries are higher, more access to food grown in rural areas. Just think how well rural areas would eat and live without the onerous regulations designed for over populated cities and the factory farming they depend on
Factory farms are all being run by rural political party brainwashed suckers. Cities have nothing to do with it 😂
Salatin for president
What could go wrong?
Amen
There's so much more going into our current food stability that the left wants to regulate (trucking, fuel, feed, processing, as you said, etc). I agree with inspections, but only to the extent that you know what you're getting and there's no worms or virus that wouldn't be killed by cooking to the appropriate temp (namely for pigs and fowl).
I hope he phrased it NOT as government is now allowing us to do something, and instead prohibiting the government from regulating "custom" and striking down the regulations.
ThankQ
Regulations are good. We just need a system that works for the people and businesses. Helps them operate legally instead of pricing them out of business. But the rules are usually created by the rich for the rich.
How about if the usda would start teaching meat inspection to slaughterhouse and butcher shop workers and lower that cost of inspection? Young people could learn how to slaughter and cut meat and how to inspect the meat.
Im for inspection, but there are very few inspectors!! So few infact, slaughterhouses had to close up and safety standards got so high, the meat market or slaughterhouse stopped offering inspection as a service, and they sell only prepackaged meat over the counter!! The big boys want it all. When are they going to make vacuum packaging a mandatory requirement??
A farmer should be able to raise any type of livestock,inspect the meat, and sell it directly to consumers in the meat market the farmer operates!
He can do it all !! If i have to trust anyone, i would trust the farmer, they want the best quality of meat at a fair price, thats why people buy from them!! 😊
Sounds good to me. Pass the act.
This man looks like Maynard James Keenan. I feel like there should be a new Tool album about this situation
Why would the govt want to do this?
I hope this doesn't backfire and do away with custom altogether....🥺
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Bought some lambs like this, great experience. Well for me personally anyways, probably not so much for the lamb.
You’ll get carbon credits too?
It's not a "loophole", Joel - it's The Law... and it's 100% legal.
Modern science teaches me that turning a bull calf into a steer means it can get pregnant. Why aren't any of my steers pregnant?!? And my roosters who identify as hens still aren't laying! Help!
Maybe the government should stay out of it.